Rod and Greg Show - Is Trump Winning? Utah Lawmaker and Pornographic Books in Schools; The Helene Response

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good afternoon, everybody.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
I'm Rod Kent, I'm citizen Greg Hughes.

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Great to be with you today. No, I am not
going to rub it in about last night's game.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
You know you just robbed me my opportunity to be
a good sport. Are you going to I was. I
had it all planned. I didn't want you to know
about it. But I was going to congratulate you on
do or die if you didn't stay a lake because
there was a rain delay. It was a fourth and five, uh,
fourth and goal five yards out, do or die Pittsburgh's
defense wins the game or the Dallas Cowboys offense flukes

(00:27):
the game. They won it, and I was going to
say congratulations. One thing I learned though, in the game
was that turns out Elon Musk has a terrible tell
and he is all in with the Steelers. So further confirmation,
Elon Musk is on the side of right the Steelers.
So but we fell short. You won that game Dak

(00:48):
through a dart and that's hard to defend.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
And the first time he's done anything right in the
last time. Yeah, Well, he's the highest plaid player in
the NFL. Do you know that I didn't know that
it's amazing how much money that. I don't think, to
be honest, both of our teams are struggling. I don't
think this was like a preview of the Super Bowl
that saw. I don't think so us unless something really
turns around real fast. I hope you had a nice weekend, everybody,

(01:12):
beautiful weekend. I didn't get to hang around with the
powerful people the way my co host did. Do you
want to tell him what you did or you want
to keep it seeing?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
No, I'm fine, I'm fine. I got to see Don Jr.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, was in the state this week.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
You know why he was in Utah? And this is
not this is just genuine. He loves Utah. He really
does love the state. It was you know, he was
like his last gas breath. He and Kimberly is is
significant other uh to spend some time downtime and before
they just run with their hair on fire till the
last day three days. He hasn't been campaigned before, but

(01:48):
this was maybe the last weekend in his life that
he thought he could exhale. And where did he decide
to do that? But uti like he loves the state,
how's he doing?

Speaker 3 (01:56):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:57):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:57):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:57):
What's he thinking about the election?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
They feel great, They feel really good. Their internal polls
look good, the mood, the shift, they feel the momentum.
But what he pointed out, and you know, there was
a little not campaigning, but there were some people a
little bit of a get together. Yeah, and in what
he shared was this is I'm maybe talking out school.
I didn't get permission to share any of this, but
this is the so just audience, you're the greatest listening audience.

(02:23):
Just between them, you'll respect he's not really sure and
they're not really sure why the Harris campaign has decided
to let people suffer, die and lose everything in a
hurricane without FEMA really going, you know, pulling out all
stops to look presidential. It's worrying them as if what
do they know that we Why are they so confident

(02:44):
and when they're not doing some of the things that
you would look very presidential doing by saving people that
are in crisis and the need, and they're not doing it,
and they're worried that there must be something up their sleeve.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
I have a question for you, because you've been in
campaigns before. Greg, you keep on hearing this reference to
internal polling showing them something important. Why is internal polling
better than the other polling that we all see? I mean,
do they spend more money on it? Do they ask
different questions? Do they appeal to different areas, different demos?
Because I hear that all the time that the internal

(03:14):
polling is a lot better than the public poll.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
It's it's because the public polling there they'll ask people.
They're looking at what's the percentage of people that turn
out and what's and they're trying to imagine what the
whole like, what the voter turnout participation is going to be,
and of that voter participation, what how are they going
to vote. What an internal poll does is it slices
into every demographic that could vote, will vote okay, And

(03:38):
they're asking harsher questions about themselves that you then you
might have in a public poll, because they want to
know the real deal. They don't have time for push polls,
they don't have time for polls that may They want
to know for real where they're at with voters, and
they're really looking at different demographics too, And so it's
just more of the hard truth than maybe a general

(03:59):
poll would just ask me to be more general questions
or make some assumptions about who's voting. They're not making
any assumptions. They're staring at every demographic of type of
voter and getting real information back. And that's where those
internal polls are telling them the reality of things. And
and look, you those aren't you. You don't want to
be You don't want to pull the pole put a

(04:19):
poll out there. That would be self prophesying. In other words,
this is where we think you are. They're trying to
change some of the feedback they're getting, both Trump and Harris.
Some of the information they're getting back. They want to
address where they think they're losing votes or they're not strong,
and they're trying to address those things. And so that's
where there's some real, uh you know, hard trus or
honesty coming in those internal poles. I think I think

(04:42):
you're the appearance of Walls on Fox News. If they
were winning in any shape or form, he would not
put himself through a real interview like he did with
Shannon Breem and it didn't go out. But they wouldn't
do that unless they knew they had.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
To do that.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Something. Well, I was going to bring up different from
twenty sixteen even twenty twenty. I think this year Trump
Trump has brought on some real professionals to run his campaign.
I mean, these people know what they're doing, and I
think that's going to happen. That's why they maybe seen
things or thinking to themselves, hey, we're aoka, let's do
this or let's try this. So well, you know, I

(05:19):
just think he's I think he's being better handled in
this campaign.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Well, and imagine this too. The Republican National Committee was
almost an antagonist to him in sixteen, That's true. I
was barely on the same page in twenty and now
with his daughter in law being one of the co chairs,
they are working hand in glove much better than and
of the prior to campaigns, and that is showing. I mean,
the Democrats strategists will tell you they're seeing an RNC.
They're not seeing any daylight between the Trump campaign and

(05:46):
the Republican National Committee where there had been in past
presidential election. So that's in his favor as well. There's
just a momentum out there. You know, I've been talking
about the betting lines, because that's putting money where your
mouth is. That's not just sharing an opinion at any
given time. They have shifted mighty. They were trending his way.
They have been shifting. I don't want to jinx it,
but they've been shifting a lot. They have been shifted

(06:08):
mightily since this weekend and the Butler rally in Pennsylvania
that things have really begun to track, especially in that
critical state of Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, we've got a lot to get to today. We'll
talk more about the campaign here in a few minutes.
We'll play a sound bite or two, an audio sound
bite from Kamala's interview with sixty Minutes. Yeah, so that
airs tonight. I believe it's they have an election special.
Trump is not part of it because Trump said before
I go on sixty minutes, I want Leslie Stall to apologize.

(06:37):
You know that's not going to happen, and it doesn't
bother Trump one bit. We'll get into that. We've got
we're all talking about what a state lawmaker has done
when it comes to books that are restricted in school libraries.
This story is amazing. Happened over the weekend. We'll get
some reaction to that a little bit later. On Comparing
relief efforts on Katrina to relief efforts on Helene it's

(06:57):
pretty amazing. And can you believe Florida's pray for another storm?

Speaker 2 (07:01):
This hurricane Milton I looked at before the show started.
It looks like it's been upgrade to a category five,
going right through the heart of Florida. Boy, I'll tell
you what it's it is. It's heartbreaking thing. I mean,
if there's any glass half full or quarterfall, it's that
you have a Governor DeSantis, who I would argue is
far more prepared than FEMA or anyone else to deal

(07:22):
with this. And that would be the only good thing
I could say other than that the poor people of
that state.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
The big story out there today is NBC or MSNBC,
one of the alphabets report out there today that DeSantis
is refusing to take calls from Kamala Harris.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, what did join? You have so much carnage in
other states that you should be if you didn't have
to worry about Florida, you should call him and thank
him as you're trying to martial resources to the devastated
states that aren't as prepared as Florida is. And look,
that's not an indictment on those other states. It's just
that Florida hits, gets hit with hurricanes more frequently, and
so they're just they just know what they're doing, especially

(07:59):
with good leadership. These other states, they've never seen it
like this before. And so she's going to talk about
what governor won't call her back. How about talking about
what governors you're talking to and need you to call them?

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Talk about that pretty amazing. So we've got that to
get to. Also, sometime today we have got Hey, it's
time for Billy Joel tickets. Yes not now, do not
call now, but we'll explain how you play the game
the name that tune game a little bit later on
in that to giveaway to win this one. So that's
going to come up a little bit later on in

(08:33):
the show today. I just want to take a minute, Greg,
I don't understand this this and Abby just reported this
in her newscast, that you have one man dead, another
one whose life has probably changed forever following that road
rageing incident. This point, I just do not understand that
you would get so mad that you'd be willing to

(08:55):
shoot and kill somebody. Allegedly, we don't know that from.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Without knowing anything about it. Someone either got so mad
they shot and killed them, or they got attacked to
the point where they thought their life was endangered and
they shot to defend themselves. Either way, can men just
like throw just get rid of the guns and weaponry
and duke it out. That's what I say. If you
want to fight, fight, put the dukes up and do
what you used to do with they guns and knives
and all this other stuff people use. It's just it

(09:20):
drives me nuts. Just stop with the I mean it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
You know.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
If you're too big of a coward you need you
need some weapon to defend yourself, then you're too big
of a coward. Don't drive, I say, just or just
run away. Run, don't don't even wait, don't even confront someone.
If you have to have a weapon to do it,
get out of there, just leave, just walk.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Away and saying I'm not dealing with this. But now
you have one man dead, another one likely charge depending
on how the investigation, could be charged with murder or
road ray junents. And we have a new bill on
the bus not doing anything. Well, I don't know what
what what is it going to take to tell people
to stop?

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, the switch that's been flipped is beyond me. I
don't understand how these confrontations are going on, but how
they escalate to homicide. It's just I don't understand it.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
I don't get it either. Abbey. Of course, following that story,
she'll have the latest at the top on the bottom
of the hour as you drive home tonight, all right,
more coming up. Brought and Greg with you on this
Monday in Utah's talk writing oh one O five nine
k and rs. Reminder a little bit later on tonight,
chance for you to win those Billy Joel Sting tickets.
Just keep on listening. We'll we'll play Name that Tune

(10:27):
with you, which was fun. Last our first caller guest
are right off the top. I know we made it
too easy.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
I don't think it was that. I think again, I
think it's a reflection of this audience. I mean, I
sound like I'm just kissing tell I'm not. I'm just
saying I listened to those songs before the show started,
and I love both these artists and I thought, oh,
that's gonna be. Yeah, we're gonna where it's going to
be a while.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, and now boom, pretty crazy.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
It's great.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
There's panic on the Democratic Party. I think Greg and
even Politico Today, Okay, had a story out there. Trump's
all over the place. Where's Kamala? You know, look at
this Donald Trump is holding rallies, he's doing interviews, He's
all over the country right now, and they're saying, where's
Kamala Why didn't she do? Now? They announced today. You

(11:11):
mentioned this earlier that little Timmy decided to go on
Fox News Sunday with Shanabriem and she asked him great
questions and he adds horrible answers. Now, Kamala is what
was it, call your daddy or call me daddy. That website.
She's going to be on the view. She did the
sixty minutes interview, and we'll play a few sound bites

(11:32):
from that. She's doing Stephen Colbert, hard hitting interviews coming
her way.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
These are these are amen corners. This is this is
where I don't think she'll will play the clip with
Andrew Mitchell, who's clearly on the side. She's one of
the regime media that wants Trump or wants Harris to
win with all of her heart, and she's critical of
Kamala Harris and that she's not having any serious discussions
on interview. She's not where she's building any confidence with
you know, her little crowd, you know, the important people.

(11:59):
But but here's here's an observation. I like that that
Trump was invited on that show. That Trump was invited
onto a sex and relationship show and declined, Kamala accepted.
Kamala was invited on Dave Dave Ramsey's show to talk
about the economy, she declined and Trump accepted. So if

(12:21):
that isn't if that isn't a contrast right there? He
goes on Dave Dave Ramsey show. She will not the
call me daddy or call whatever that show is. She's
She goes on that.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
He's like, you know, so we played that. This is
an audio sound bite from the from this critical Journalist
One Journalism. Listen to this.

Speaker 6 (12:42):
I'm curious, like you don't do too many long form interviews.
What made you want to do call her daddy today?

Speaker 7 (12:50):
Well, I think you and your listeners have really got
this thing right, which is one of the best ways
to communicate with people is to be real, you know,
and to talk about the things that people really care about.
What I love about what you do is that your
voice in your show is really about your listeners and

(13:14):
I think, especially now, this is a moment in the
country and in life where people really want another scene
and heard and that they're part of a community, that
they're not out there alone.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
And so I'm really glad to.

Speaker 8 (13:28):
Be with you.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Isn't every show about the listeners?

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, No, it's just unseerious. It's not real, it's not real,
and that doesn't do anything by way of when what
people are saying. If you want to get elected, just
hating Trump and fearing him is just not going to
get you over the finish line. You've got to have
something that they can grasp on to. Now we've had
at debate for a long time. Maybe she doesn't have to.
I think it's proving out right now and she can't

(13:54):
get any deeper than you know in this type.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
She tried to get deeper on sixty Minutes, so that
will air tonight on CBS in sixty minutes. But first
of all, the corresponding I think it was Bill Whittaker
asked her first of all about her economic plan.

Speaker 7 (14:10):
My plan is about saying that when you invest in
small businesses, you invest in the middle class, and you
strengthen America's economy. Small businesses are part of the backbone
of America's economy.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
The pardoning that Advice President, the question was, how are
you going to pay for it?

Speaker 7 (14:31):
Well, one of the things, I'm going to make sure
that the richest among us who can afford it, pay
their fair share in taxes. It is not right that
teachers and nurses and firefighters are paying a higher tax
rate than billionaires and the biggest corporations.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
And I plan on making that fair. But we're dealing
with the real world here. But the real world includes
how are you going to get this to Congress?

Speaker 7 (14:58):
You know, when you talk quietly with a lot lot
of folks in Congress, they know exactly what I'm talking
about because their constituents know exactly what I'm talking about.
Their constituents are those firefighters and teachers and nurses.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
You know.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
I wonder Greg if she's ever been asked during interview,
any interview, that she has done to get real And
that's what he has to say. Get real here, I know.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Keeps us to get an emmy for just a straight face.
The look on his face, it's just just stone cold looking.
Get real here, he says, how bad is she that
she is testing? Even the bias of these people. They
want her to what they want her to do well,
they're dying for her to give her them and they
just there's some part of them where they have to
be able to sleep with themselves, look themselves in the mirror.

(15:43):
They can't let her get away with this.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
What's this blathers?

Speaker 2 (15:47):
You know there's a show or there's an app called
Barstool Sports. I mentioned all the time. These are young people.
These are my kids that watch this. They're they're watching
and they love sports. It's not a political anything. However,
they do every once in a while touch on it
on Paul, especially if they feel like coming at them
right where they feel censored or they feel like it's
coming at them. Dave Portnoy rags the richest story in
terms of that site and everything else. So he's doing

(16:10):
very well. He's very well off right now, very kind
of a character. He puts a post out after listening
to this and he has a screenshot of this interview
and he's like, real talk, am am. I getting screwed
on taxes. I pay fifty percent of everything I make
to the governments. Kama is saying that teachers, nurses, and
firefighters pay more than fifty percent. I've asked my accountants

(16:30):
for this super wealthy tax break and they can't seem
to find it. Okay, it's it is. And all you
have to know is she's got enough billionaires supporting her race.
She has no intention of going after those billionaires whatsoever,
or they wouldn't donate to her campaign.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
I get so sick and tired. And Joe Biden's been
saying it, and Kamala Harris has been saying it. We
want the rich to pay their fair share. Yeah, over
and over, and I get so sick and tired of Now,
before we leave this, she did leave us a little
word salad last you know, where would we be without
a couple of word salad. I think Bill Whittaker ordered

(17:05):
up French dressing just in case. But he asked her
about Israel.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Listen to this, but it seems that Prime Minister Netanya
who is not listening.

Speaker 7 (17:14):
Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted
in a number of movements in that region by Israel
that were very much prompted by or a result of
many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen

(17:35):
in the region.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Huh did you get now? And Whittaker. As a matter
of fact, after ari is bb Netanya who an ally,
she didn't answer it Israel is our ally.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
American people in the Israeli people were allies because she
would not answer. We're on the anniversary of that horrific
massacre and attack from Amas and the terrorists into Israel
and it's a year in now, this is the anniversary,
and not only will she not say on the eve
of an election that she is an ally of the

(18:09):
leader of that country who's been fighting this for a year.
Michael Moore, that crazy, you know, documentary writer who's a
total left wing nut right his big story, his big
essay on substack today. I just read it was, we
don't need Net and Yahoo Times too, and that's what
you get with Trump. We have to say sorry for
what we did supporting Israel and all they've done this

(18:33):
last year. And that's what Kamala Harris will do. We
don't need Trump, who would be with Net and Yahoo.
I just want to take that essay from that guy
and show it to everyone, because I think we're we're
not on the pro terrorists side, We're on the ones
that are repelling or doing their level best to repel
and defeat the terrorists who slaughtered their young and their babies,
and their children and their women. Yes, so I don't know.

(18:56):
I think people are seeing it. I really do think
that people's common senses is just fighting through the propaganda
of the regime media and as much as they can.
And Folks, if someone tells you that seventy thousand or
however many showed up in Butler, PA this weekend is
somehow a base for a candidate. There's no such thing
as seventy thousand people as a campaign rally, as a base.

(19:17):
These are people that are everyday people that did not
get involved in politics before that really don't trust politicians
or like politics, but do believe in Donald Trump. And
that is not someone's right wing base that's showing up there.
That is a very very different group. In fact, I
worry that after Trump's over, and let's assume he has

(19:38):
an administration, well they ever trust anyone like they do him.
He is a unique character in person that's running. But
that is not a base. You are seeing people of
all different walks of life that are really gravitating to him.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
All right, when we come back, we'll talk to a
columnist We've had him on the show quite often. He
talks about the fact that he thinks Trump is winning.
He'll explain why coming up on the Rod and Greg
Show right here on Utah's Talk Radio one O five nine.
Prodd and Greg with you on this on Monday afternoon.
Beautiful day on the outside, great great weekend, Greg, of course,

(20:11):
hob nobbing with the rich and famous and powerful. And
I'm at home cutting my lawn.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
You know what you you do that a little too much?
That's that is itself. Yeah, just grows, I know, but
you know what you have, sons you have. There's a
lot of ways you get that grass cut. Pal. You
don't have to be killing yourself on that grass anymore.
You do it because you like it. That's a chore.
It's actual physical labor that you like. Yeah, I think

(20:37):
everybody needs that. I don't.

Speaker 8 (20:42):
I know you do.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Man.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I got neighbors that are like crazy about the lawn.
There's a lot of pressure on my street about lawns.
I gotta get that thing.

Speaker 9 (20:48):
You can't.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
If you miss a day, that thing gets fuzzy. You
start getting the looks. You know, people are very very
judging about the lawns. You gotta get it. You gotta
get that down. And I'm not very good at routines
like that.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
No you aren't.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
This show is about the most scheduled, regimented thing in
my life ever.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Well, at four o'clock either we go on, we're dark,
baby said, there is.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Just no time for my natural lag in life. I
have to really step up my game.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
So I can just attest that. If you're wondering, all right,
let's talk at the election I have And we've talked
about this before, Greg, I bet every day I have
someone come come up to me, either on the pickleball court,
golf course, you name it, wherever you are. I bet
you get this several times a day. What about the election?
Who's going to win? I'm nervous? You know That's what

(21:35):
I hear. Do you hear that from people all the time?

Speaker 10 (21:37):
I do.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
They Actually, they just say, tell me he's gonna win,
tell me, please tell me, tell me he's going to win?

Speaker 1 (21:43):
And how yeah? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Well.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Joining us on our Newsmaker line to talk about this
is Kevin and McCullough. Kevin a nationally syndicated host and podcaster.
He's written two columns in the last couple of weeks
about Trump is winning. Kevin, thanks for joining us tonight.
Are you seeing something or are you feeling something? Why
do you think that Donald Trump is winning? Kevin Well?

Speaker 11 (22:03):
I didn't intend to write the second article under the
same title, and then so much stuff happened in the
last week, I thought it was worth a follow up.
But there's a series of things that have happened over
the last couple of weeks and that are happening down
the stretch here that I think you're starting to get
a little bit of a picture. You know, my friend
Eric Mattaxis calls me votestra damas. I don't really see

(22:24):
the future. I just see the stuff that everybody else sees.
I just kind of put more of the pieces together,
I think. But what you're starting to see is a
combination of factors where she's beginning to really lose luster
and even somewhat implode on messaging and in constituency outreach.
Trump is shoring up some of the places where it

(22:46):
looked like he was trending upwards in new voter demographic states,
are taking more accountability for the integrity of their elections,
and I think that her base is becoming less energized,
even demoralized in some instances, and his is becoming stronger.

(23:07):
And now that the debates have passed, there's not going
to be any other major national stage for us to measure.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
The two tickets by.

Speaker 11 (23:16):
And if you look at the outcome of those two events,
despite the fact that the odds were very heavily stacked
against Trump and Vance in both instances, they seem to
have held their own all in all, in a in
a in an election year where you know, just about
anything goes, I think this is all good news for Trump,

(23:36):
and I think it points to not not really that
close up a squeaker on election night, to be honest
with you. In fact, I'm on the record as having
said that now I think he's within reach of winning
the popular vote, which I don't think most people thought
was possible, you know, just a few weeks ago. So
that's that's my thumbnail of those two columns in a

(23:58):
short paragraph.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
You know, I agree with you, but I look back
and I think that because of Trump derangement syndrome, I
think there are some things that the left, Harris campaign,
specifically the Democrats, even the regime media, they failed to
see because of their deep seated hatred towards Trump, and
so they're missing it. I think that Trump might, much
like he did in sixteen, has to have an unfathomable

(24:22):
win by way of turnout that they don't see coming
to kind of overcome some of the inherent and you've
pointed out in your articles or your columns some of
the maybe thumb on the scale techniques that they have
done in the past that we're trying to track and
watch right now. An example would be Lebanon. Are you
really kidding me that? Blincoln and then Harris over the
weekend said we're sending one hundred and fifty seven million

(24:44):
dollars for humanitarian aid to Lebanon while we have people
victims of this Helene hurricane that are still suffering in
real time. Is there a disconnect here or do they
have something up their sleeve that we don't know about
that gives them more confident than they deserve.

Speaker 11 (25:03):
I don't know that there's any cards really up anybody's sleeve.
I mean, that would require more premonition than I have.
But I do think that there is a certain degree
of arrogance and hubris that having been in power and
having one with quotes around it the way they did
in twenty twenty, that there may be this little bit

(25:26):
of invincibility about the whole thing. And I think that's
grossly overstated. And I think that if you look at
the real data in terms of where the election is
going to come down to. For instance, this last week,
there were two reports, one from Detroit, one from Philadelphia,
where Trump is trending very high in blue collar union households,

(25:50):
and we already knew he was doing better with African Americans,
maybe as high as twenty eight percent in some polls.
If either of those situations are true they apply to
those cities, that suddenly puts the biggest urban center in
each of those states honestly into play for him. Not
to necessarily win it outright, which if he did, it

(26:12):
would be a landslide for the state, but even if
he gets close, even if he gets between forty and
fifty percent of the vote in those cities, that's going
to so tilt the scale because the margin that he's
going to run in the rural and suburban areas are
gonna easily bring.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
It home for him.

Speaker 11 (26:28):
At the end of the day, she needs to run
up the score big the way Biden did in those
big urban centers, and without the three AM vote dumps,
and without the without the energized grassroots support on her side.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
I don't see where that comes from.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Kevin, what do you make of this apparently renewed effort
on the part of Harris and Walls to get out
there and do more interviews. I mean, you know she's
lining up to She's already done call her daddy. She
did sixty minutes. She apparently is going to be on
Colbert and Stern. You have people in the media and
in the liberal media, the legacy media, is saying she
has simply got to do more serious interviews. Those that

(27:05):
I just mentioned I wouldn't call serious interviews other than
maybe sixty minutes. Yeah, call her daddy.

Speaker 11 (27:12):
You know, we all turned to call her daddy to
find to find our political influence. Now's this has been
her fundamental problem from the beginning. She's an unseerious person
with an unseerious agenda, and she's very unseerious about this election.
And I think that the silliness and the kind of again,

(27:33):
whether you want to call it hubris or whatever the
case is, you get this sense that she thinks that
this is going to be a cake walk, but the
campaign doesn't really feel that way. If they did, they
wouldn't be recruiting Barack Obama to suit up once again
and spend this week in Pennsylvania. And I'm not sure
that he can deliver it, for I think that the

(27:53):
problem that she has is that there's no answer for
the last four years. She's not talking about anything of
substance that she's going to do in the next four years.
What's the economic economy of opportunity?

Speaker 1 (28:04):
What does that mean? And there's no meat on the bones.

Speaker 11 (28:08):
So with that being the case, she's had a chance
that the public has given her this opportunity to say, Hey,
tell us about what you're going to do.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
We're listening.

Speaker 11 (28:16):
The media did all they could to heavy lift her
right up to the top of the polls, and even
if you look in the rolling averages are real clear,
and at five point thirty eight, you're starting to see
not just Trump regain ground that she had supposedly taken
from him. But I also know that there are other
strategies at work that the Harris team doesn't even understan

(28:37):
understand or realize. The animosity in the Muslim American communities
towards the administration has never really been satiated. And Republicans
very smartly have gotten out there with Arabic speaking door
knocking teams and they're going door to door in Michigan
and Minnesota and places where the woke agenda is not welcomed.

(28:57):
Nobody in those communities wants boys showering with their daughters
in the schools. These are the kinds of things that
the GOP is being smarter about and with our voter
integrity effort, where you've got lots of states that have
cleaned up their poll their roles.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
And you're seeing.

Speaker 11 (29:15):
A willingness by the campaign directly but also the pair
campaign groups where they're going to have attorneys and poll
watchers in every swing district, in every swing state, tens
of thousands of attorneys ready to our poll watchers ready
to go, ten thousand attorneys ready to go, and they're

(29:35):
not going to let them get away with it. Glenn
Young Cain very smartly learned from twenty twenty and in
twenty twenty one when they tried to do that same
thing in Virginia, shut it down, Send everybody home for
the night. Oh look, there's a new box of ballots
that came in while we were in bed last night.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Let's count those in the morning.

Speaker 11 (29:53):
They shut all that down and it Judge said, no,
you have to finish the vote accounting tonight. That's what
the Trump team is going to be much savpier about
and wiser in, and they're going to be ready for
it this time. I just I just think that the
nation's in a different place.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Syndicated columnist Kevin and mculla joined us on the Rod
and Greg Show right here on Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine. Ka thinking a lot about our big
boss Judy, who lived here about a month ago. She
moved to Orlando and she.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Moved to Florida. She said, Hey, well, as I'm going
word sunshine, blue skies all year round.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Now we should make fun. But we got you. Yeah,
we've had some information. Hurricane Milton is now a potentially
catastrophic Cat five storm, which is huge. The storm is
making its way toward Florida, right toward Tampa Bay, apparently
expected to make landfall late Wednesday in the state's Gulf region. Now,

(30:49):
if there's any good news here, Greg, they say, Milton
forecast to reach peak intensity tomorrow morning and by the
time it makes landfall, it'll drop from a Cat five
to a Cat three.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Normally we wouldn't be happy with the Cat three, but
given that it's a Cat five, right, story that is
any news like that is actually better news there than not.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Right now, they're saying, wins it anywhere from one hundred
and seventy to one hundred and eighty miles per hour?

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Whoa, yeah, it just like again, it's such a good
thing that you've got top leadership in Florida and in
a state that can actually take care of itself, all
of our the city. You taught to look at if
we had a catatree, would we need the federal government
or could we handle it?

Speaker 1 (31:29):
We could handle it all right. Our number two coming
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I have reviewed the music melody of Billy Joel and Sting.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
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Speaker 2 (32:33):
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your songs you already did last time they totally dunk.
We had more ready to go that we're gonna get
easier because we thought the first one out the gate's
going to be hard. But it didn't seem to be
too hard. But this isn't just a if you're the
right caller, you win type scenarios.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
So so as you know, you gotta work on this one.
All right. Uh, there's an interesting story. It happened Friday.
We can get a chance to talk about it Friday,
and that's why we will to do it today. This
about a lawmaker who's basically thumbing her nose at people
who are trying to protect their children from books that
should not be in a public school library. This lawmaker,
it is Utah Representative Saharah Hayes. You know her.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
She's new, No, she's she's a Democrat from Salt Lake City.
I didn't have an opportunity to service her.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah, she's gaining attention online due to her actions regarding
banned books and schools. And what she decided to do
was set up little free libraries and put these books
that we are trying to protect our children from so
that kids could have access to them. Makes a lot
of sense to me.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
So to dive into this story, as we like to do,
we have invited on our program Carolyn Fippen. She's the
executive director of Freedom Front of Utah. She was a
staffer when I was the Speaker of the House for
the House. She was also a staffer for Senator Mike
Lee and a recent candidate for the US Senate. Carolyn's
joining us. Welcome Carolyn to the Rod and Greg Show.
Look headline says lawmaker put us for distribution of banned

(34:01):
at children's books and little free libraries. Maybe you can
share some context to our listeners about this emerging story.

Speaker 12 (34:08):
Yeah, you know, one of the things that I'm finding
is that too many people are not aware of what's
actually in these books, and people who are arguing that
these books should be kept in our libraries like to
say that we are banning books in the state of Utah.
And in fact, today I came across a meme on
social media that said I support banned books, and then

(34:31):
it listed things like to Kill a Mockingbird, Harry Potter,
of Mice and Men. And those of us who have
been paying close attention to this issue know that the
books that are being not banned, but that are being
removed from school libraries public school libraries, by the way,
paid for by our tax dollars, are books that contain,

(34:53):
in many cases, actual pornographic material that is illegal to
you distribute to minors in the state of Utah.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Carolyn, I mean, I've seen some of the illustrations in
these books, and you're right, they're pretty disgusting. That's pornography,
if you want my opinion. But how do you respond
to people who are constantly saying they're banning books, they're
banning books, they're banning books. What's the best way to
respond to that in your opinion.

Speaker 12 (35:18):
Carolyn, Yeah, I think that you know, some of us
who like you, wouldn't necessarily be picking up these books
and reading them on our own, need to actually expose
ourselves to them and explain to people who don't understand
what it is that's in them. I'll tell you I

(35:39):
had a discussion. I had a nationally published piece on
this very issue about a year ago and had a
discussion right after that with a former elected official from
the state of Utah who should have known better. And
in this discussion he said to me, we were talking
about this upet that I've written, and he said, I'm
just so glad this isn't happening here in Utah. And

(36:01):
you know, I explained to him it is. I said,
these books that we're discussing are wildly inappropriate for children.
And his response to me. This was right after the
David School District had pulled that funny little thing to
try to get they got the Bible libraries right, and
that was all just a political gain to mock this law.

(36:25):
And so, you know, I explained that these were inappropriate.
I didn't get into details at that point in the conversation.
And his response. This is a Republican former elected official.
His response to me was, well, you know, the Bible
has some racy scenes in it too. This is a
leftist talking point. This is somebody who was in office

(36:45):
in a position of authority at the time that some
of the stuff was going on, and he had been
lied to about what was in our schools. So I
told him, I said, you know what, I'm really sorry
to be in a position where I have to describe
to you, but it's obvious that you are completely unaware
of what's in these books. And I outlined for him

(37:07):
some of the pictures that I've seen, and I got
very graphic about what was in some of these books.
And all he could do was continue to deny that
they were in our schools, because no way could he
acknowledge if that's what was in these books, they couldn't
be in our schools. Then he should have known better
when he was in office. All I'm saying is but

(37:28):
I will also say that that is not the norm.
When I describe this these things to people who don't believe,
you know, they think it's just a bunch of right
wingers who are overreacting. And when I explained to them
specifically what I have seen, I get people on board
every single time, except for that one when it was
a last perform.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
The difference is, Harry Potter is not pornography. This is pornography.
So I'm going to tell you it's porno. You have
a state lawmaker who went online and it wants to
distribute porno to kids through this donating books. What is
there a legal recourse? I mean that sounds like that
should be a law that has just been broken. You
can't give pornos to kids? Is there something legal that

(38:11):
can happen here?

Speaker 12 (38:13):
Well, yeah, if you can find somebody who will actually
press charges and take action. My understanding is that there
are a number of members of the public who have
reported this to law enforcement. I'm hoping that there is
action because I don't know if you remember, but a
few months ago we had a reporter in the state,

(38:34):
Brian Shott, who used to write for the Salt Lake
Tribune and he did this very thing. I think it
was on Twitter on acts where he offered to supply
these books to children in the state. And our law
I will read from the law that to distribute or
offer to distribute, or exhibit or even offer to exhibit

(38:56):
our laws as any pornographic materials to others making the law,
they are guilty of the distribution of pornographic material and
you cannot. There are different penalties when you're over eighteen
that are much harsher than when you're under. But the
fact is this is a pretty significant offense, and I
hope that our police and prosecutors follow up on the

(39:20):
you know, the claims that are being made against this person.
The fact is she put out a video. So it's
not like you have to try really hard guilt in
this situation because even the offer to distribute. And think
about this, these are those free libraries that are in neighborhoods, right,
kids will go there without their parents. There's no you know,

(39:44):
no checking of ID, there's nothing. These are just books
that are being put out there for children. We are
at a point where we can no longer trust adults
around us to not distribute pornography to our children. I
mean that used to be the creepy guy in the park.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
You could tell because right because he had a rain on.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Yeah, is a creeper.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
By the way, I don't think Brian's shot lasted much
longer in that gig at the Tribune after he pulled
that stune. I think he was the seriousness of this.
He was that he was terminated soon after.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Carolyn, I want to ask you one Yeah, I want
to ask you one other question, Carolyn, how do we
what is it going to take to get parents to
pull their head out of the sand and really understand
what these books contained? Because I'm like you, I think
there are a lot of parents out there who go
what and they're shocked by what they see? What is
it going to take to get parents to wake up?

Speaker 10 (40:42):
You know what?

Speaker 12 (40:42):
I actually think we need to change the law. Currently
you cannot even show these books or read from these
books at a legislative hearing or at a school board meeting.
It is so considered harmful to expose adults without their
permission to this. But this is being exposed to our

(41:04):
children without their parents' knowledge and permission. So I think
we need to allow these to be exposed in public meetings,
and I think that would start to shift things because
nobody's willing.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
To put it out.

Speaker 12 (41:15):
I'll tell you I did a video on my social
media about a year ago that got massive traction when
I just showed the cover of one of these books,
and I was tempted to open it up and show
some of what was inside of it. But I have
to tell you, even I like, I don't want to
expose people to that without their like, without a warning

(41:38):
that it's going to be something inappropriate. Again, this is
happening to our children. We need to be able to
get the message out there because those who want to
expose our children to this type of material are benefiting
by the fact that it's too offensive to show to adults.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Well, Carolyn, we are getting message out. Thank you so
much for joining us on the program. I'd like to
hear from call on this if they're interested eighty eight
five seven zero eight zero one zero on this topic,
because as Carolyn said, they are benefiting from the fact
that it is so profane and so inappropriate that it
is not legal to share, or to read, or to

(42:14):
present its images in a public hearing. Be it a legislature,
a city council school board meeting. You cannot.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
If I showed up a to David school board meeting
where I live in David's County, said I want to
read an excerpt from one of these books.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
That children have access to.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Would I be arrested?

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Yeah, they gabble you down, They would gabble you down,
they'd turn off that mic. And if you insisted on
reading it, they would have you have you arrested, they would.
So I'm going to tell you that I'd like to
know what the public ought to do. I've got my idea.
I think that you should define what is legal to
present in a public hearing. You can have your normal
lewdness and definitions, but if it's if it's something that

(42:53):
a school district has deemed appropriate for children, well then
you can read till your heart's desire those words in
a public school board meeting on the record, stream live
and including our state legislature and their committee hearings. Because
I can tell you this, if you're a chair to
one of those, you don't want that read in your committee,
and then guess what you're going to do. You're going
to go to whoever permitted that and say jute I

(43:15):
am not letting that in my committee hearing, and you
shouldn't have it in your school. Just put some empathy
in this process.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yeah, well, I wonder, Greg, how many people would actually
have the guts to read some of that language, well,
to read some of the descriptions. And I've seen them
in the books, I've read some of the graphic descriptions
in there. Who would have the guts to stand up
in front of a committee knowing great? Now? The interesting
thing about this, would a radio station like ours or
a TV station in the market lift an audio sound

(43:43):
bite from that presentation, knowing they'd put it on the
public airwaves? Probably can't.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah, it's a federal I think it's a federal communications. Yeah,
so you wouldn't even be able to.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
But should they?

Speaker 2 (43:54):
But online it would go viral. And I think that
that if adults had to had to own the kind
of smut that these kids have in their libraries, or
that the adults would allow in front of these kids
to find or to read, oh, I think it would
change very quickly.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Do all right? The question is should the public be
allowed to read some of this graphic material in front
of a state legislative committee? A city council meeting, a
school board meeting without fear of retribution eight eight eight well,
breaking the law, break in the law eight eight eight
five seven eight zero one zero. Are on your cell
phone dial pound two fifty and say hey, Ron, just
joining us. Now we're talking about the distribution of books

(44:33):
that have been no longer allowed in public school library
or in public school libraries. Here in the state of Utah.
We've got a lawmaker who's out distributing them to our children. Now,
the issue that you have here in the state, as
far as I understand it, Greg, if an individual wanted
to go before a school board meeting, a city council meeting,
a state legislative meeting and read some of the lud

(44:56):
and we do mean lude descriptions in this book, they
wouldn't be allowed to do so, all right, it's against
the law.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
It is.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
It's because it's so indecent and it's so profane that
it would be out of order. So let's hear from you.
We want to know what you, as listeners think. Would
you be willing to read this? Would you do it?
I mean without you know, being suffering as on the
being on the wrong side of the law. Let's say you,
let's go to Terry in Taylorsville. Terry, thank you for calling.
What say you?

Speaker 13 (45:26):
I here's the problem. It is against the law. You're
going to end up in jail. You're going to end
up probably with some kind of a sex crime on
your record. I would gladly do that. I would gladly
do that if I had a good law firm that
would stand behind me, because I can't afford to do it,

(45:48):
and I had enough news media and enough of these
podcasters and YouTubers to come join us so that it
would go absolutely. We viral immediately, and because it is
going to be a battle if somebody does it.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
You know, Terry, I think you're right. I think what
you're saying is that the bright lights of transparency illuminating
this and so people know exactly what we're talking about
in terms of what's banned and what's not would would
be pretty intuitive pretty quickly.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Yeah, there's a lot of social media out there, Greg,
as you well know, of parents standing up in front
of school board meetings or city councils trying to read
this material and they're whisked away or their mics or
are turned off. Right away. Let's go to Rod in
Sandy tonight here on the rod In Greg Show. Hi, Rod,
how are you?

Speaker 10 (46:38):
I'm good. It may be kind of just a little
bit off. That's not a book, but my wife was
Ptha council president of the Jordan School District. Back in
two thousand and eight, a student submitted a piece of
art for a contest. They took it to her to
make the determination. She says, no, this is inappropriate.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Was it that red? Did you ever see her? Rod?

Speaker 10 (47:03):
I never see in the piece of art, But she says,
she has never been lambasted so badly.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Wow, really she got they got after huh.

Speaker 10 (47:14):
Press everybody mentioned her name in the paper that she
was just approved.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Well, well, thank you for the call and thank you
and if you can hear the emotion Rod's voice, it's
this is something that that you know, I think that
we've been putting our kids through too much and there's
just it is, it's it's hearts felt for those that
go through this meat grinder. Let's keep going with with
our callers. Let's go to Dustin in West Jordan. Dustin,

(47:44):
thank you for calling the Roden Greg Show. Uh, what
do you think about this?

Speaker 10 (47:49):
I think this is absolutely crazy.

Speaker 14 (47:52):
I mean, where's our common sense when we can't take
you know, lawmakers and school boards and we can't expose
them to the same material that our kids are exposed to,
Like worth common sense, it's just gone out the window.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
It seems like, Yeah, I'm with you on that one, Dustin.
I mean, you know, let's say you read some of
that material in front of school board and then ask
the school board members did you approve this? Did you
allow this in the schools?

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Yes? That would put them on notice. I'd put them
on notice right away, wouldn't it. One One person that
commented online said, how about we required by a law
that the school board members themselves read it on the
public record.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
That's even better have them read.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Since it's okay to have it in the presence of
kids and their school libraries, have them read on the
public record. They can own every sentence that they think
a child should be able to read or see or
describe the images that you're looking at. We had one
of those here in the studio. I couldn't say. I
wasn't going to say what I was looking at. It
was you're afraid to put it on your computer? It
was a cartoon. I wasn't. Yeah, I didn't even want

(48:52):
to take a picture of it. I don't put that
on my computer on my phone.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Mike is an Alpine tonight on the Rod and Greg Show.
Hi Mike, how are you. I'm good?

Speaker 10 (49:01):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (49:01):
We're doing well? Thank you.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
I just wanted to point out that we have a
First Amendment right to free speak, and so the law
is actually in violation of the First Amendment.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
That's true, and our courts.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Are broken because they allow that nonsense in the first place.
As long here as you're not being disruptive and unruly,
you have a right to speak anything you want. That's
been upheld by the Supreme Court several times.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yeah, it has. That's a good question. How can they
do this? This is free speech?

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (49:32):
How can they block you from doing this before committee?

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Yeah, you know, here's a speaker, there's that we use
a Mason rules of order, there's rules of decorum, there's
rules that that that you can't be profane, you can't
be in your deliberation. I think that it's the stuff
I've seen. If you wanted to put that on the
public record as a as a deliberation in a public hearing,
you'd be violating those rules. But to the point the

(49:56):
color made, if it's free speech, I guess they should
be we too. I don't know. I'm telling you that
this stuff that they would be reading is is pornographic.
It's something that if adults showed a child I think
I'm pretty sure the laws don't allow for that. So
how those books are allowed to be in the schools?
Uh and have to go through such a oh, I mean,

(50:17):
it's actually a ridiculous process to even get these books removed,
which has point out by our colors it should be
just darn common sense.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
You wonder there, could you put a written copy of
what is in that book on the public record without
reading publicly?

Speaker 2 (50:32):
I think I'm could get away with that, I think so,
I think you could. I think you could. You could
have it present for people to read, but but to
read it out loud. And nowadays where these couple of
public hearings are streamed an audio and video and then
archived I mean any and this is where it gets
into the where we get interesting, the viral nature of it.

(50:53):
So you go ahead and read this in a public hearing,
and you get some of these people that are on
that are on to have these prolific accounts on social
media and they're playing that, which you could How long
would they want their names, their board, their committee associated
with that, with that, those those words, I think they'd

(51:15):
I think they'd find a new reason to ban these.
Could you see material?

Speaker 1 (51:19):
You see this? Little Johnny goes up to his mother
and says, Mommy, why is grandma reading these nasty words?
I mean, oh, out some of it.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
They'd be learning those words, all.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Right, they would be all right. More of your calls
and comments coming up here on the Rotting Greg Show
in Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine k n RS.
Greg with you on this beautiful Monday afternoon here on
Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Canters taking your
phone calls right now as you work your way home
to line. Should you, as a citizen be allowed to
appear before a a state legislative committee of school board

(51:53):
and read indecent material out loud in public so that
people understand the type of books that are in our
public schools. Right now? You get in trouble for doing that,
right yeah?

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Well, this and with the logic being that the schools
allowing this to be in their libraries, and if they are,
then then you should certainly be able to read in
the public hearing. But let's see what you have to
say about this. Let's go to Mike and Ogden. Mike,
thank you for holding and thank you for joining us
on the rotting Greg show. What's the use, sir?

Speaker 8 (52:21):
No problem? Yeah, I'm kind of curious you're saying that
for a pornographic speech is not allowed in legislation and
other meetings like that. Correct.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Basically, Yeah, they'll gabble you down if you try to
read it.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
They'll turn your mic off, they'll do anything to you. Mike,
look out, don't try it.

Speaker 8 (52:43):
I've just been more appalled lately, probably the last year
or so. How much are vocabulary and public discourse, especially
the F bomb?

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 8 (52:55):
Is this year's over and over and over to me?
What image comes with that F bomb?

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (53:01):
It's a paragraphic. Yeah, so maybe you could address how
that equates to our free speech, but yet you can't.
You can't use it in those meetings, but you use
it in public.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Yeah, yeah, that's for sure. I see T shirts with
it out, Greg. I just want to get I can't
remember where I was some shopping area and here comes
a young girl, probably I want to say, fourteen fifteen,
maybe down to an escalator and she's got a black
T shirt on and it says FU on the front
of it.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, our language has become very
course in this world.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Unfortunately. Let's go to Dean and Bountiful and I see
what he has to say on this. Dean, how are
you welcome to the Rod and Greg show.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
I'm doing a great rod. Hey, I saw this great
video of the mayor that went up to the city council,
I mean in the school board as they're getting ready
to vote on this, and he says, I check with
the Attorney general. If you offer this to the child
phonography to kids, you can be arrested. So I'm putting
in you unnoticed. You vote for this, you will be served.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Wow. Well really anybody?

Speaker 4 (54:06):
Yeah, And I mean they're talking to you if they
can't if they know a child pornography okay, and they
ordered it with the intent to distribute. Even librarians would
fall into this category.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
That's well being prosecuted, okay, because if you.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
Put it on the shelf available for the kids, you
are all offering it to them. You know, we can
talk about lesontries all we want. They're not going to
listen to that. But if you start, if you inform them,
you will be prosecuted. This is an attorney general issue.
We've got candidates right now. We should talk to them,
ask them if they're willing to enforce this law.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
That's a very good question. That's a good question for
the candidates.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Because he's talking prospectively, and we know that not all
the school districts have banned these You have a number
of school districts that have banned these books, but banning
is such a generic term. We are not we are
not allowing the porno into our school libraries. Okay, that's
what we're doing here, and some of them, I think
are trying to get away with it.

Speaker 8 (55:08):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
So let's keep going. These are great observations and comments.
Let's go to David and Cedar Hills. David, thank you
for waiting, Thanks for joining us on the Rodarcut Show.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Well we just lost David. Let's go to Chad in
Sandy tonight here on the Rotten Greg Show. Chad, how
are you? Thanks for joining us, doing good, Thanks for
having me. You're welcome.

Speaker 15 (55:29):
So back in November of twenty one, kind of before
this became popular, my wife and a group of ladies
were real involved with the Canyon School District board. Yeah,
and my wife actually she read one of these books
at one of the meetings and it was it was epic.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
It was school board.

Speaker 15 (55:52):
The school board was saying, no, no, you can't read that.
She said, well, you let the students read it. And
I actually have a recording of it that I can
send you. Guys. You know, you probably couldn't play it
on air, but you could at least hear it. It's
pretty cool. And yeah, she went toe to toe with
the school board.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Well good, good, good for your wife. Man, took a
lot of guts to do that.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
I love to see video. Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Mark.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
I want to get that. I want to see it.

Speaker 13 (56:20):
Yeah, because I will.

Speaker 14 (56:21):
Tell you.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
No good.

Speaker 15 (56:25):
Yeah, the book was it It was in Alta's library,
Alta High School's library, and uh, you know I read
it and it was In fact, one of the school
board members actually said, how the heck did this get
into our library? You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (56:39):
He was, Yeah, well, embarrassed as soon as someone has
because it's so uncoment Thank you for your call. I'd
love to see that video. I think it'd be something else,
but I tell you is And that's kind of the
point that the Karen Fippen made, and that is if
you heard what if you heard it and you and
you were to read it and it was and you
had to own what this was saying. And they in

(57:00):
whatever position you hold as a public servant, you understand
this is in front of children. I don't think that
people could be comfortable with that much like was just described.
School board member says, how is how in the world
was that ever a leg.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
That ever get through? All right, more of your calls
and comments coming up. It is the Monday afternoon edition
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Speaker 2 (57:27):
Get your dialing fingers. You're ready, ye, girls, So we
have time for one more caller. Thank you for holding.
Let's go to Mark and Draper my hometown. Thank you,
Mark for holding. Thank you for calling The Rod and
Gregg Show. What's your take on this?

Speaker 16 (57:42):
Hey, big fan of you guys, Thanks for what you do.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Thanks.

Speaker 16 (57:46):
So my question is is good good? Can these authors
that write these books, and even the publishers, could they
be be by prosecute for providing these books?

Speaker 1 (58:03):
To kind of doubt it. Yeah, you know, I don't
know the law. I'm not an expert in that area
of law or any area of law, but I kind
of doubt it.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
You know, if we go back in time when they
began to start purposely distributing these two schools, when a
lot of us parents adults never knew. I think maybe
back then, but now that they have found themselves in
so many school libraries, where you would draw that line,
I wish, I, you know, to answer your question the
way I'd like to answer it, Marcus. I'd like to

(58:34):
think that they would have some culpability. They even make
the images so that they're not live images into they're
not even they're not cartoon characters. They look very lifelike,
but they're drawn, they're not pictures. And it's it's it's obscene,
it's it's terrible. And so I've seen this and I'm
telling you I'm not comfortable explaining it over the air.
What what what those images look like. But I wish

(58:56):
there was more response, culpability and legal responsibile for creating
that for kids, because it's drawn knowing that it's going
to be a kid.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
I want to go back to the question that I
posed to Carolyn or the you know what parents can do?
Mom and dad? Get your head out of this sand Yeah,
I mean really, you know, you can go online and
take a look at these books and get an idea
as to what's in them without having to purchase a book.
I mean, you'll get a pretty good graphic idea. There
are areas where you can go to take a look

(59:25):
at them, so you can make that determination whether or
not you want your child to read it or to
look at it.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
And just remember this segment started with the story that
we're talking about the school districts that have removed these
books uniformly. And there's a number of these school districts
that did and you have a Democrat law at state lawmaker,
lawmaker who is trying to go around the school district's
actions and provide in these free libraries, these very titles,
these very books, and all these things that the schools

(59:50):
don't want to own, they don't think are appropriate for kids,
and you've got a state lawmaker, a Democrat state lawmaker,
trying to get these in front of kids with her
best effort, going around to these little little free libraries
where you can drop off books and they can make
them available for kids. Is that also is something that
I think ought to be looked at in terms of
how in the world is that lawful?

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
The arrogance of that, Greg, I mean, think about that.
You have a state lawmaker and I don't know if
she's married, has children. That doesn't matter. Telling parents you
don't matter because I'm going to get these books available
to your children. I don't care, come hell or high water,
They're going to get to your children, and I'm going
to make every effort to do so because I think
that's it important that your children read it. She's making

(01:00:32):
the decision for parents in this state, and that is shameful.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
And she's trading on the fact that we don't know
what those books actually say, and if you had the
actual words, you had the images. I don't know how
she get reelected. Yeah, even in salt Lake City. She's
a salt Lake City report.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
That would be my guess. You know, I think she
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(01:05:08):
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Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
So all right, let's talk about We've got Milton headed
toward Florida right now. Yes, Ron DeSantis, the great leader
that he is for his state in Florida, getting everybody
ready telling him to get out of town. You know,
got the power companies lined up ready to move in
to restore power communications lined up, ready to take over.
It's a Cat five hurricane right now out in the water,

(01:05:42):
but they say by the time it reaches landfall Wednesday
night Thursday morning, probably drop down to a Cat three,
which is still nothing to shake a stick at, but
it's better than a Cat five. But Florida is ready.
But now we have the debate greg over the female
response and the federal government's swans to Hurricane Helene.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
And it's been awful, it has been, and it's awful,
you know, and just so you understand, if they had
any competence, if they had any ability to make themselves
look good, you not only would they do it and shine,
but you'd see MSNBC and you'd see CNN, and everybody
would be on the ground heralding Kamala Harris, this this
administration and FEMA helping people and the dire time of need.

(01:06:25):
Many of us wouldn't be upset about people being helped,
because we'd want them help. The fact that it's not happening,
the fact that they can't hide it, the fact that
you don't have anyone on the ground from MSNBC, CNN
or any other major network as they usually are in
these moments. It's just it's just showing. Even even when
it's it's like a gift where they could use it

(01:06:46):
to show that they're ready to that Kamala is ready
to be president, they can't do it. There is so
little substance or competency to this, this the administration.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
Remember how the media called out George Bush during Katrina.
Oh yeah, I mean they were all over over former president.
Why aren't they all over George Joe Biden or Kamala
Harris right now? Well, we know why. Yeah, yeah, we
do know why.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
I think other people notice.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
Yeah. Joining us on our Newsmaker line to talk more
about this is Leslie Eastman. She is a writer Legal
Insurrection talking about Helene response and she's been talking to
somebody who knows how to respond to these disasters. Leslie,
thanks for joining us tonight. What have you found out?

Speaker 17 (01:07:27):
Well, you know, there's a couple of different things at play,
but one was an article by the Federalist, by an
army colonel who goes by a pseudonym who was an
expert army logistics expert who actually responded to Katrina, and
he did a compare and contrast and what he found
as though with far more resources being thrown at the

(01:07:49):
response to Katrina than there were the response to Helen,
a number of air planes that helicopters, in terms of
the you know, the level of the general who was
designated to lead the response. In other words, the actual
federal response was far more robust to Katrina than it

(01:08:11):
has been telling. And as you see it play out
on the social media, you see a battle that is
between the mainstream media and the federal government presenting a happy,
you know, we're all effective side of the story versus
what we see streaming on social media, which is people

(01:08:33):
not getting rejected for their applications, the roads being blocked off,
and people not permitted to go in to drop off supplies.
And you also see in many many respects, a very robust, energetic,
enthusiastic private enterprise and private citizens going in and helping
the very complex issues of trying to get disaster relief

(01:08:58):
into the North Carolina mountainous area.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
You know, this is a sad observation, but a true one.
I believe that a hurricane and its disaster it causes
gives a president or its administration an opportunity in an
election season to look like they are competent and that
they are saving lives. And I think back to twenty
twelve when when Barack Obama enjoyed the benefits of a

(01:09:22):
quick response. It was even on the beach with Governor
Chris Christie as they were bringing aid to New Jersey.
This has put a bow on it, I would say,
in terms of an ability for Kamala Harris to look
like a like a hero. My question is they're turning
away even the help from the public. So if they
if their response is is minute in comparison to Katrina,

(01:09:45):
because of whatever reason, if they even allowed the public
to help, and they were seeing arm in arm with
the public, they could at least try to help legitimately
help people and maybe take some credit. Why are they
turning away the public? Why is why is this not
only a small response, but it seems like they're rebuffing
any larger response to help people that are in need.
Why do you think that's the case.

Speaker 17 (01:10:08):
Well, there are a number Yeah, there are a number
of different reasons and I that you could project and
it would all be theory at this point, and I
would encourage everydy to go to my link and then
onto the federalists because there were like seven different explanations
the Army logistics officer gave and they don't have to
all be political. But I you know, there is a

(01:10:30):
new article that just came out that FEMA is hoarding
money that they haven't used, money allocated to previous disasters.
They were supposed to have enough for this year and
they're already betting, begging for more four days into the
fiscal new year. So there are a lot of unanswered questions.

(01:10:50):
But but you know, long and the short of it
is we have American herding. We have you know, private
people including Donald Trump and his family out there, Elon
Musk and his team out there providing starlinks and other resources.
We have social media on x you know, sharing stories

(01:11:13):
that are both uplifting about how other Americans are helping
out and just devastating to FEMA, how they placed equity
as a priority, and you have conferences about gender and
race which are totally inappropriate. Foreign agency whose primary mission
is supposed to be relief in the event of a

(01:11:35):
natural disaster, and they spent their money on illegal immigrations,
the mad cause disaster of the Biden Harris administration, and
they are denying it despite the fact it's on their
own website. And we is very sad, and it's very
hard watching the reports from their response and then to

(01:11:58):
compare it what we're being told of in the media,
the traditional media sources about what's actually going on.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
Leslie, do you think there's an American out there who
believes that we don't have any money in the federal
government to help the people in North Carolina and Tennessee.
Do you believe any American out there actually believes that
when they say, well, we haven't got any money. We're
running out of money. I don't believe in I don't
think most Americans do.

Speaker 9 (01:12:21):
Do you.

Speaker 17 (01:12:24):
I don't know about the magic money tree that's that
apparently prints as much money as we ever need. But
I do find it fascinating that the same day that
the story about the Thema budget was coming out, Samantha
Powers was giving several hundred million dollars to the people
of Ukraine for their heat and electricity, and Secretary Blincoln

(01:12:45):
was given another chunk of change to Lebanon for their needs.
And somehow, always in the calculations from the Biden Hears administration,
the American people come out of the last. As I
pointed out one it's billions for Ukraine, millions for legal immigrants,
and pennies for Americans. And as we head into election season,

(01:13:07):
I think this is resonating with a lot of potential voters.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Well, I'll tell you that I don't have a question,
but just a comment. I want to thank you for
joining us. But Hurricane Milton looks like it's been upgraded
to a Category five hurricane heading its way into Florida.
Thank goodness for Governor DeSantis. But I don't know that
FEMA has much to show for its uh, you know,
for helping people in times of crisis, and it looks
like there's another one coming Florida's way. So I think

(01:13:33):
people will see this government there yeah on display.

Speaker 9 (01:13:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:13:41):
No, DEI is not their mission. Their mission is response
to natural disasters or disasters of an origin that is
not created by man by DEI, by the administration trying
to put their social justice priorities onto the American people.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Leslie Eastman, Leslie, thanks if we're joining here. She is
a writer at Legal Insurrection. Check their website out. I'm
talking about the Helene response, and we'll see what kind
of response we get with a Milton. My guess he'll
be a lot better than what we've seen so far,
because Florida knows how to do this under the leadership
of Ronda Sentis.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Last Friday, we went into this big time. We talked
about the femous budget. We all got into it, were
drilling down, trying to find a numbers, line items, everything else.
And then I'm driving home Friday night and from Blincoln,
and then Kamala Harris herself over the weekend bragging that
they are sending one hundred and fifty seven million dollars
of humanitarian aid to the civilians of Lebanon, and also

(01:14:39):
said that's, by the way, that one fifty seven is
accumulated the three hundred and eighty five million we've sent
over into that region to help people, humanitarian aid to
help people. And that would be the same person who
said we have seven hundred and fifty dollars not per person,
by the way, per household, and forty five million in
disaster relief for people in three different states. That's combined, uh,

(01:15:00):
for the people of Florida, North Carolina, and South Carolina,
forty five million for the people suffering and devastated in
those three states, while heralding the one hundred and fifty
seven million to the people of Lebanon. That shows you
right there. I mean, God, if you vote for that's
who you're voting for. Someone who doesn't give a wit
about the people in this country. But you know, as

(01:15:22):
far as it overseas and everything else goes, that's what
the important people want. Rod They want them helped, not us.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Is that called putting in America? First? I just want
to make sure I understand if this is if this
is the last Yeah, the Democrats definition of putting in
America First, Sorry, more coming up. Rod and Greg with
you on this Monday right here on Utah's Talk Radio
one o five nine kN rs. Monday evening now here
on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine k n rs.

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What do we change clocks back the Sunday in November?

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Trees the show, and it'll be dark.

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You've been forecasting this for a month and a half.
It's very predicted. I don't like that. So I don't
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Okay, I won't bring it.

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Don't want to hurt your emotional whatever it is.

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Speaker 8 (01:16:23):
Just do that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
It'll screw up.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
No, it would not. We would be fine.

Speaker 14 (01:16:27):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
That is one topic on radio that you could do
every year and your phones would light up. Everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Everyone agrees with me.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
Yeah, and I think it's just a stupid topic. Just
let's not just leave it alone.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
This is an agrarian thing. They did it for farmers.
We don't do that. But you know what they adjusted.
They can adjust easier than I can adjust it without farmers.
That you want to say, I'm saying that they're keeping
it lighter. Later works all the time for everybody. You
don't have to you have to do it because they
used to do it so that the kids could do
some chores before them to school all that other stuff.

(01:17:01):
Now I don't have to worry about that. I wish
you did. Kids wouldn't be so soft, right, Okay, what
do you call it?

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
Draper soft?

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Yeah, draper soft.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
You have something you want to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
I do, but I would like you to play the clip.
So here's the deal.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
You're playing the clip.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
I'm not this one. I want to play the one with.
Let me frame it real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
We we actually play in the show. I know we
don't have this in the cube the cuff.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
So it was observed over the weekend in the talking
heads in the political shows by what's her name? What's
and Andrew Mitchell wants? She wants? Kamala Harris to win
so badly. But she has to bring this up in
the show that look, she has to get serious. She's
not done any serious interviews. She had people in her
little you know world don't know her enough and don't

(01:17:48):
think she's serious enough to be president. And don't take
my word for it. Here's her making this point on
one of the Sunday shows.

Speaker 19 (01:17:56):
They've got to double down on doing more interviews and
serious interviews because when I'm hearing from Democratic and Republican
business people and a lot of men, and she's got
such a big problem with men. I think there's an
under account of the Trump vote. I think that there's
a miss eyn misogenation in all of this black and
white men big problem.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
But also the.

Speaker 19 (01:18:16):
Business world, they don't think she is serious. They don't
think she's a heavyweight. And a lot of this is gender.
But she's got to be more specific about her economic plans.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
Well, she is not serious. I mean, let's be honest,
she is the most unseerious candidate we've ever had running
for president in this country.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
And don't you love that? If you don't want to
vote for the woman, then you're a misogynste isn't it
amazing that you either believe what they believe, subscribe to
what they do, or you suffer from some intellectual or
moral failing. It's a beautiful thing. Well, Kamala Harris did
not take her word for it, or if she did,
she thought her Grand Interview ought to be on a
podcast called Call Her Daddy, which is about sex and

(01:18:53):
relationships and all of those things, not what I would
call one of the deepest conversations about public policy that
you would ever run into. Well, it turns out Rod
that this Call Her Daddy Grand Interview that everyone was
supposed to be so excited for it because this is
what all the kids are watching this. It has all
the popularity in the world. She was going on the show.

(01:19:14):
It's been a big giant flop. Sixteen hours after it's
been done, they've had about barely one hundred thousand views,
which this podcast usually gets a lot more. The YouTube
has four point nine thousand likes and eleven thousand dislikes,
meaning it has about a thirty one percent favorability rating,

(01:19:37):
and the comments are almost entirely negative. They're just people
are losing their minds, and the people that support her
are like, can you turn off can you disable the
comment section. They're just pleaing out there. They stop at
the this is backfiring, this is making us look terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
Well, you know one of the reasons why it is
backfiring because they know the fans of this show see
this is nothing more than a propaganda, propaganda show, and
that's basically what it was, would come along. It's all
about propaganda. And the fans of what is it called
call your Daddy or what I call her daddy, Call
her daddy, don't like it. You even have a clip
of that of her, of her little her little spiel

(01:20:15):
on here. And when you listen to this, if you're not,
I hope you're not driving because you might swerve an
oncoming traffic.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
It's so horrible. But listen to this in depth interview.

Speaker 6 (01:20:23):
I'm curious, like you don't do too many long form interviews.
What made you want to do call her Daddy today?

Speaker 7 (01:20:30):
Well, I think you and your listeners have really got
this thing right, which is one of the best ways
to communicate with people is to be real, you know,
and to talk about the things that people really care about.
What I love about what you do is that your
voice and your show is really about your listeners. And

(01:20:55):
I think, especially now, this is a moment in the
country and in life where people really want to know
seen and heard and that they're part of a community,
that they're not out there alone and and so I'm
really glad to.

Speaker 8 (01:21:08):
Be with you.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
And I think as they drink wine on there, I
think that's probably the biggest attraction she had to that show.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
Did anybody see the SNL skit, I mean the FNL's kid.
It's rip, but it's Scott her sitting on the couch
with a glass of wine, which I love. Her husband
comes in and she's fine. And then they show a
clip a clip of Timmy being interviewed or doing making
a statement about he loved school shooters. Yes, she she breaks.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
So I find SNL can't help it. They have to
go after her that even even those that wanted to
win have to ask Carter questions I call. And then
once she does it, you'd think at least the people
that watch that show might like her. No, it comes
out with a thirty one percent favorability rating, not very
many views compared to the rest of her show. And
I call this what James Brown would call the pace

(01:22:00):
back the pay back. That's right. Revenge, revenge. See the
American people aren't taking it. See that not to get
back some get back, All right, I'm doing I've been

(01:22:27):
waiting to play my James Brown a long time. But
I'm telling you that's the payback, is that they try
to manipulate the people, and the people are going, this
is a joke.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
This is a joke. She is a joke. It's the payback.
How this ratten and you and I have talked about
this before. How this race is so close, I don't understand.
But I think we're starting to believe it is not
as close as the polls indicate.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
No, it is, I think. And I'll tell you what.
Pennsylvania is on fire. That that that but that Butler rally,
depending on who you ask, seventy hundred thousand. I don't
care if it was fifty thousand. It was a lot
of people. That isn't anyone's base. That's no candidate's base.
That is those are people who otherwise probably aren't very
excited about politics or politicians, who want to see this

(01:23:13):
man elected. So it's we've got some we got some
real excitement in this election at the right time.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
Did you see alone. Musk come on stage, jumping up
and down.

Speaker 13 (01:23:22):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Here's what I love to the others that left all
they're crying that. Oh you know, I thought this was
supposed to be a non partisan thing and it was.
Here's the difference. You can complain on X and he's
not censoring them, and he's clear about where he's at.
Where they never were dorseying their gang. They never were.
They hire the FBI agents, they do all those things.
They did it all quietly pushing an agenda that they

(01:23:45):
never let the people know they had. They had a
preference in this ray. They have a candidate of choice,
but they didn't allow the free speech that Elon Musk allows.
And I'm telling you he's resonating with the everyday people
like they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Yeah, like they're doing all right more, coming up with
some final thoughts on the Rodden greg Show right here
on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine K and
R as The.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
Roden Gregg Show here on Talk Radio one oh five nine,
canrs everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. I'm Citizen Hughes.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
And I'm brought our kat Jesse Kelly of course, coming
your way at the top of the hour. Couple of
economic notes to pass along. This won't make you feel good, Greg.
One of the economic miracles between twenty seventeen and twenty
twenty was low monthly housing payments. Right, but thanks to Bidenomics,
which led to higher interest rates on a thirty year
mortgage along with the higher cost to build new housing,

(01:24:33):
a mortgage on a median value home has risen from
the typical family by seventy five percent. The house payment
has gone up twelve hundred and fifty dollars a month
under Bidenomics.

Speaker 9 (01:24:49):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Can you believe that?

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
And now it's the same time. This is where you
have all the economists out of the New York Times
and all these other you know, Elita's telling you. You know,
the economy's doing phenomenal. Oh, it's doing great every start
in the world. Yes, we've got inflation under control. There's
got job growth. I mean, I don't know what these
people are talking about. They really want to tell the
American people that they that their life experiences are not real.

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
Yeah, you know, I have a brother who lives back
in Syracuse, New York, and he has his own real
estate development company. He's a big deal. Back there, right, yeah, right.
But I was talking to him about this yesterday. I said,
how's business back there? He says, we can't find houses.
Nobody is selling a home. I didn't realize this, he said, Rod.

(01:25:32):
If I bought a large piece of property in upstate
Central New York is where it is right now, and
I wanted to develop it, do you know how long
it would take Greg even to get some of the
initial permits approved.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Yeah, now it's two years.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Two years now. I said, I've been in Utah. I
could buy a same piece of land and have the
development up and going within two to three months, right
after all the But he says, in New York State,
and in New Jersey and in you know, all the Northeast,
if you want to develop some property and build a
housing development, it will easily take you two years to

(01:26:08):
get the first permit allowed. Wow, that's amazing. Yeah this,
And I said, what about affordable housing? He says, there's
no such thing. He said, a builder is not going
to build a home and sell it for two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars. They just aren't going to do
it anymore. Well, they can't, they can't. They're making any
money off it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
Yeah, that's that's yeah, that doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
Another frightening thing. Are you ready for this? According to
the Bureau of Labor Statistics, their usual household survey, the
number of people employed by the government. Okay, so it's
big lit monthly increase. Ever, in September, excluding the reopening
of the economy, it went up seven hundred and eighty

(01:26:53):
five thousand people to a new record. I we have
twenty two million people in this country today who are
working for the federal government. Twenty two million, with the
goal being that that everyone, yeah, everyone will eventually.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
Dependent on this government one way, shape or form.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
That's what they're going to do. And one other note.
These are America's ten dirtiest cities. Okay, can you guess
is this is this?

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
Is this by air quality or is this just the
look of the what's on the ground or by litter?

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
What scores are based on pollution, infrastructure, living conditions, and
resident dissatisfaction. Number one Sam Bernardino, California. Huh never been there?

Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
I love its San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
Number two Detroit, Michigan. That will is it reading? Writing? Pennsylvania?

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
You're reading reading reading? Right? Sorry? Ready, that's writing in Pennsylvania.
Where it's writing Pennsylvania. I have no idea that's how,
that's how it's so dirty. I don't want to be
near it. I don't know where it is.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
Number four Newark, New Jersey, and not a surprise.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
No Newark's now I've I've actually had the displeasure of
being Newark or rats nest ratsnow.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
Number five Ontario, California.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Okay, don't know that area either.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
Phoenix, Arizona.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
Really I would have said Phoenix. That's I don't know.
If I print in New Jersey, I haven't been to Trenton.
But Las Vegas, it is New Jersey, Las Vegas. Las
Vegas has become filthy.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
It actually, Yes, Houston and Baytown, Texas. There are at
ten dirties cities in America today.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
Yeah, I again, Houston, I don't know. I don't know
that one either.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
Okay, all right, that does it for us tonight. Yes,
we'll be back tomorrow'll head up, shoulders back. May God
bless you and your family and this terrific, great country
of ours. We'll talk to you tomorrow at four. Have
a good eating