The Rod and Greg Show: Fires in Los Angeles; Narrative Control Over Truth; What Should GOP Focus on?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The story of the day without a doubt, the fires
burning in southern California. I mean, people are not leaving
their radio. They're trying to get the latest information they
possibly can. It's on TV screens all over the city
right now. I mean, this is an absolutely amazing story.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Greg.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
I thought you're going to say the story of the
day is that we launched the Rod and Greg x
page within an hour over two hundred lights or follows. No,
that was yesterday. I thought that was the big story.
I'm I'm still on a buzz over how well our
listeners have joined us on our new X Pope page,
and I see we've got our daily rent wind up

(00:34):
for our daily show run down for today on here
and everything else. So but to get serious, we do
have a lot going on in California, a lot to
unpack with that situation. There's so much happening, and there's
a lot about what happens in the state of Utah
that doesn't happen in the state of California that we
can kind of connect some dots for you to know
good public policy versus some reckless public policyless worth talking about,

(00:58):
but also get maybe some some eyes and ears on
the ground that can help share with us what they're seeing.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, going on, Well, let's get the latest right now.
Joining us on our Newsmaker line right now is Chris Barry.
Chris very good friend of the show, also the executive
vice president of news for iHeartRadio. He's been working. He's
kind of a big deal.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
He's a big deal. He's been working.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
He's been working with the people down at KFI in
Los Angeles who have done an absolutely amazing job in
covering this story or any major story in southern California.
They do it all the time. Chris has been with
KFI down there since these fires broke out. He's joining
us on our Newsmaker line right now. Chris, Thanks for
joining us. What are you hearing? What is the latest
on these fires right now?

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Chris, Well, thanks, Rod, good to hear you. I got
to tell you. I've got to start off by telling
you we have some bad news. We now have at
least five deaths, oh wow, and fires here just just
announced a few minutes ago. We've got four large fires
that are burning in the Los Angeles area. And you know,
as you mentioned, it is a huge nationalist over eleven

(02:02):
hundred homes have been destroyed. Forty thousand people have been evacuated,
and I mean evacuated.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
They are out of their homes.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
That's not just that it is mandatory evacuation. Four hundred
thousand people have been without power. And you know, it's
one of those things we always talk about the power
of radio and the fact that you know when there
is a disaster, whether it's a Hurricane Helene which hit Asheville,
North Carolina a few months ago, or a story like this,

(02:29):
it's a real place where we can give people a
story as it's unfolding, and unfortunately, this is a a
very tragic story that's unfolding in Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
So, Chris, you read my mind that the power of
radio Los Angeles County, we've noted just on politics, is
larger than all but six states in the country. So
you're talking an incredibly large population in the Los Angeles County.
You've got the city what is the row. So CAFI
is an AM dialand by the way, AM is still
hot popular there in Los Angeles, very import but as

(03:01):
a radio station, and with what I'm looking at looks
like pure chaos in terms of where would people go
and what's going to happen next people parking cars taking
their keys, but now they're blocking the way. What is
the role of our radio stations you as people are
trying to listen and get information and nowhere to go
or what to do? How have you guys been grappling
with that? What have you been sharing with the public there?

Speaker 4 (03:22):
And as you mentioned, you know and listen. You can
listen anywhere on the iHeartRadio app. So when they're not
listening to you, guys, we would love for some of
your listeners to come over and hear this live coverage
that's going on in Los Angeles because we are nowhere
close to being out of the woods.

Speaker 6 (03:36):
On this particular story.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
I'll kind of tell it to you in chronological order here.
Over the weekend, we got word of what was going
to be a life threatening wind event. Now I don't
know about you, guys, but I've been around a lot
of weather stories. I've never actually heard that terminology before
life threatening wind event, not a hurricane, not a tornado.
But it becomes real problem in southern California because of

(04:02):
the dry humidity here, also because of the fact that
it is very dry, and then the Santa Ana winds
when they come up. If you've got a situation where
maybe there's even just a spark off a high tension line,
it can cause a fire that will grow from one
acre to one hundred acres in just a matter of minutes.
At one point last night, the fire that is burning

(04:24):
near the ocean, they call it the Palisades Fire. It
was traveling at the distance of five football fields a minute.
Five football fields a minute, So as you can imagine,
if you are in a situation like that and you
have not evacuated, you know, your chances of survival are very,
very small. Eleven hundred homes have been damaged, not only

(04:48):
there in the Palisades, which is located along the Pacific Ocean,
but also in the eastern part of Los Angeles. You know,
La is a basin surrounded by mountains, and so in
the area around Pasadena, which is where the five individuals
lost their lives, and we've had many people who've been
burned there. They call it the Eaton Canyon file you

(05:08):
may be called. It's in the mountains right above Pasadena
and the town of Altadena. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory, which
of course is so important to our nation science projects
and the space program and so forth. It's been evacuated
not too long ago as a result of this fire.
And you know, I think about specific stories that I've

(05:31):
seen come out of this, and there are a thousand
stories or more when you have this many people evacuated.
But last night at a it was actually a memory
center in Pasadena, so maybe they had thirty or forty
patients in there. They got word that they had to evacuate,
and I got to tell you, guys, it was heartbreaking.
There was video of these patients, these elderly folks, being

(05:53):
taken out of this place, you know, some of them
about shoes on, in wheelchairs, in hospital beds. Took them
out to a parking lot of the seven to eleven,
and then they watched as this as this you know,
care center burned to the ground. I mean that in
itself would have been a national story, but it's it's
multiplied one hundred, one thousand times, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, yeah, Chris, any sign at this point? What are
the weather people saying about these winds? Do they show
any sign of letting up? I understand they're very erratic.
They'll die down for a little bit and then come
up again. What is the latest on the winds.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
So the meteorologists are telling us that this evening we
should see some cooler winds blowing in off of the ocean.
These the Santa Ana winds that we typically see that
bring about this type of weather condition, blow to the
blow to the west, and there these hot, dry winds
that come in off the desert. These winds coming in tonight,
hopefully off of the ocean will cool things down a

(06:51):
little bit, maybe bring in a little bit more humidity.
But I got to tell you, you know, you maybe
you've seen some of the pictures. Yeah, this fire creates
its own weather system, so it becomes, you know, almost
like a tornado when you see the flames and the
things that they're doing, these flames that reach, you know,
fifty feet in the air.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Well, how many people roughly have been evacuated impacted by this?
I mean, what is the movement until you and not
shared with us the sad, sad news of fatalities. I
was marveling that we had not heard that people had
passed away, given how devastating this fire and how big
this fire is, how many people have been impacted in
terms of evacuation.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Chris, Well, you know, we've got forty thousand under mandatory evacuation.

Speaker 6 (07:37):
Right now, forty.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Thousand people have left their homes and as you can
imagine when you've got that many people, you know, leaving,
I mean they're not refugees necessarily, but they've got to
find a place to stay and they may and four
hundred thousand power outages, so you even if you were
able to find a hotel where you could find a room,
champters are.

Speaker 6 (07:57):
They may not be power at that hotel.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
So so yeah, it is. It's a it's a crisis situation.
You know, we talk about the political ramifications and you
sort of touched on that earlier. Obviously, the politics in
Utah are a lot different than the politics in California
and some of the leadership they're taking hints. The mayor
of Los Angeles, Karen Bass, we knew that this wind

(08:22):
event was coming in over the weekend. She went to
Africa Donna as a as a diplomatic mission for the
inauguration of the new president there. So basically she's taken
a lot of heat on social media for the fact that,
you know, her city is basically burning right now and
she's not here for it. Somebody asked me, you know,

(08:42):
what could she do? And I and I reminded them
that you know, in the in the days after nine
to eleven, Rudy Giuliani, for all you think of him now,
he became America's man mayor because of the leadership that
he showed. And I think that it is an opportunity
for people like the mayor to show leadership.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
But unfortunately she wasn't here.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Chris is always great insight. We appreciate your time. We
may be checking back in with you in the couple
in the coming days. Chris, thank you very much and
be safe out there. Thank you, Thanks guys, talk you soon,
all right.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Chris Berry.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
He is executive vice president of iHeart News, working out
of Los Angeles with a wonderful team there at KFI
Latest News. Five people pretty such.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Graham and you know it's forty thousand mandatory evacuation. And
he last before he got up before we finished speaking
with him, pointing out what is the role of a mayor.
I'll tell you what the role is they have that
they need to be there, yeah, to know exactly what
is needed in that moment, and having that direct call
to Governor Newsom to say We need you here. We
need your national Guard. Now that's not a deputy mayor's job.

(09:42):
That is the mayor's job. There are posies, there are
roles for those that are in charge, those that have
been elected to represent those communities that need to be
on the ground and need to be the voice, the
bully pulpit four that state and even broader to get involved.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
And show leadership so important during these time tis all right.
We'll continue with our coverage of this throughout the days
to day. So we invite you to stay with us
right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine
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put Rod and Greg Show, Rod and Greg Show. That's
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(10:18):
get information on the show who we're talking about. We'll
do some polling on that as well. So it should
be a lot of fun. We hope you enjoyed it,
all right. The big story yesterday was the change with
Meta or Facebook. Zuckerberg came out and said, Okay, no
more fact checkers. We're going to open it all up.
And a story was shared with us, Well, you had
information on this Greg and Mike Lee told us about

(10:38):
this about how Meta and Facebook and Zuckerberg went after
one person here in Utah for what he was doing.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
So much so that the analogy that Senator Mike Lee
shared with us is that if he had a hair
restored on his head for every time he had to
intervene or contact Facebook four and on behalf of this
Utah that we're going to to here shortly, he'd have
the hair, the head of hair that he had in college. Yeah,
and he'd liked that bag, but he didn't have a

(11:06):
single hair in his right now. That would be a lot.
I think that means a lot.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, yeah, Well, joining it's on our Newsmaker line right
now is Eric Mutso's now. A lot of you may
know Eric because of the little kerfuffle he got involved
with when it came to the Salt Lake City Police
Department years ago. He's a police officer. He was told
he had to participate in the pride parade in Salt
Lake City, their motorcycle thing, and he didn't want to
do that. He said, I don't want to do that.
I want to stand on my principals. I will work

(11:32):
the security team. But I'm not going to perform in
the parade, and it led to his either was he
fired or he was he was fired out. But what
it was serendipity. It launched one incredible opinion leader that
this could common sense. And he's the one that recently
just broke the story from Utah State. Just a concerned

(11:52):
mother her daughter is having a more a dorm mom
and an air quoting mom. It's a it's a guy's
a guy and it's not acceptable. And thanks to people
like Eric Mutzo's with his broad following on social media platforms,
even lives of TikTok picked it up.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yes, well eric' joining you knows so right now?

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Eric, how are you great to have you on the show,
Eric and spending a few minutes with us today. Take
us back if you would take us back, if you
would to the battle and how this started between you
and Facebook and what you were trying to post and
they said you weren't going to be allowed to do that.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Tell us what happened?

Speaker 5 (12:28):
Well, well during COVID, you know, I don't know if
you remember when Salt Lake City put up snitch lines
to where if you're not social distancing, you could call
the police, So buddies of mine at the police department.
Still they were going on calls to tell neighbors to
get away from each other. And so that's when I
called the snitch line on myself and I said, Hey,

(12:48):
there's going to be a form of big rally and
they said, well, he can't do that. I said, well
he's going to He's coming this Saturday. And then so
we you know, rally against all of those you know
and lockdowns. And that's when and I created a group
called the Utah Revival and we were just going around
our protests, was saving small businesses that were getting crushed,

(13:10):
you know, we just shot. And so that's when Facebook
really started hammering my accounts hard, like I mean, any
kind of fact tech anything like hey, making fun of
the masks, factchech, doing this social distancing fact tech. And
when you get in Facebook jail, you can't communicate with
the people that follow your accounts for thirty days, sixty days,

(13:34):
ninety days. And so Mike Lee had heard the story
that our Utah Revival group got shut down just out
of the blue and didn't tell us why, and so
he was in communication with Zuckerberg and then as soon
as he started texting Zuckerberg. Our Facebook group got restored,
but we've never been able to grow since then.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
You've you and I speak on a regular basis. This
is not ended. I mean I thought I saw an
inverted Zuckerberg talking about how he's seen the air of
his ways and he's changing everything, which he is. These
fact checkers, forty thousand of them, are being shown the door.
But is that your experience You're on all the time
on meta, on different accounts, social media platforms.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
Yeah, so far not I had posted. I had posted
a picture of myself in cash Btel because I was
able to speak at a Donald Trump rally in Arizona
a couple months ago. And as soon as I posted
a picture of myself in cash Battel, all of a sudden,
I woke up. The next day, several fact checks were
hit on my account, including including a meme of Plymouth

(14:37):
Rock at sea level. Right, so it says six so
it says sixteen twenty Plymouth rock sea level twenty twenty three,
Plymouth rocks still at sea level? Fact check about climate change?
Say what back in gale?

Speaker 3 (14:50):
That's a fake? That Plymouth rock?

Speaker 7 (14:52):
What was their point?

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Their point was that climate change is real. Well, it's like, well,
then why is Plymouth rocks still at sea? And so
the point I'm trying to make is that they I
don't I don't believe they're going to stop. I believe.
I mean, this is the guy that said Facebook was
not suppressing free speech, announcing that face Facebook will stop

(15:15):
suppressing tree right, so time will tell.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, well, I.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Was going to ask you about that, Eric, because when
we had sender Leon yesterday, he said, I'm kind of
taking a wait and see attitude on this. I'm a
little skeptical about this. It sounds like you're in the
same uh same camp as he is. Right now, You're
you're kind of taking await and see attitude.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
Yeah, I am. I mean, and if my accounts can start,
I mean I've had to start three Instagram accounts because
they'll hit my one account, and then I got to
bounce my second account. So I've got like, you know,
ten of thousands of followers on each one of them,
and so we'll see. I don't believe it, but that's
why that's why I'm thankful for X right now. I

(15:57):
broke that story with the the US you, which I
think is a huge story the people that need to
be talking about.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yes, and.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
It's worse than I thought. I mean, this is a
man pretending to be a woman that's in the pod.
I don't know if you've seen the picture ye of
the pod that they were in, but it's a very
intimate setting. They share a bathroom, they share a little kitchen,
and it needs to stop. Like this is why I've
been so vocal for ten years on this stuff. I'm like, you, guys,

(16:26):
this is coming. This stuff is coming. And everyone thought
I was crazy. Here it is.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yeah. Look I say, keep up the world, keep up
the good fight. I think you are our canaryann coal mine.
I'm sorry. I think that you're going to be the
way we know what's happening and what's serious and what's
not because you do have such a large footprint here
in the state of Utah and beyond this state. I've
seen you at rallies in Las Vegas during the Trump
campaign speaking. I've seen you rallies in Washington, Arizona. I've

(16:54):
been back to DC with you. So I know, Eric
that you are a thought leader. You are really fighting
the good fight. You've been doing it since COVID and
even before but you're going to be the one that
we empt to keep it in touch with to let
us know if things are actually changing, if communication and
free speech are being honored, and you're able to continue
to see your audience grow. If it's not growing, it's

(17:15):
not because of you. Yeah, I'm going to tell you so.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
For sure, you too.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
I love you guys too. You've been some of my favorite.
Rod was one of my Rod had me on the
show ten years ago and it was just such a validation.
And you know, Greg, you two you had me up
there when you were a Speaker of the house, helping
me out with my story. And so I just want
to let you too know the how much I love you.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
All Right, Well, Eric, best, we appreciate everything you do
and I know we'll get you back on. Thanks Eric,
and good luck to you man.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
All right, take it easy, all right.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
That's Eric Musso's he is h Yeah, you're right. His
postings now really the story out of USU.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
No one's been reporting that yet.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
No about a guy who's not a dor mom in
a facility.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
And if you saw and he asked, Eric asked, if
we'd seen it. He had sent me the picture of
the of the of the footprint of the or the apartment.
What it looks like a bird's eye view. It is
just tiny rooms with a shared bathroom, shared kitchen.

Speaker 8 (18:10):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
The the guy lives in one room and four two
ladies live in each of the other two rooms, and
it is it is not appropriate. And they tried us
us try to say, oh, this is a co ed building.
It's not co ed to have your door in the rooms. Mom,
be a guy for young ladies that are in there,
you know. I this has got to be freshmen. I

(18:30):
my son goes to USU. He doesn't stay in a dorm.
I think this is freshman housing. So that's even scary
about the ages. Talking about that.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
All right, when we come back more on the California wildfires,
we'll get to the latest and an unbelievable story from
actor James Wood. We'll let you hear his story that's
coming up right here on the Rotting Greg Show and
Utah's Talk Radio one O five nine k n R S.
We also now have got our ex page up and running.
Then Era just tells me, I haven't seen this as
of yet, but he stood it, took some video and

(18:59):
posted it on the X page. Of you and I
both doing the show.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Well, he's got it even history, so he's he's just
giving us a behind the scenes. He's got his you know,
the the NASA like station. He's operating inside there and
there and now he's just walking around. This a good video,
good video like it.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
They don't want to see Greg and I.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
In action and Ray in action. Yeah, it's important because
we wouldn't be on the air without e. Ray put
you in a punch in all the right buttons. So
take a look at it. All you do is have
to go to X and search Rod and Greg show.
By the way, have you read some of the We've
got some messages on X and they were great. They
were hilarious. I mean there was really not Yeah, those
were my favorite one.

Speaker 9 (19:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yeah, someone caught us sexy grumpy old men. I thought
that was a funny one. I thought that was that.
I think we're sexy. I don't think are we grumpy.
I think I'm sexy, but I don't think I'm old
or grumpy. No, I think I could be grumpy.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Well, you are grumpy. I get salty, Yeah, you do
get salty.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
I hear this. Stupid mayor from La it's not even there,
and and it just boils my blood. This Karen bass
I even got a video of her. They asked your question.
She finally made it to town, and I said, do
you think that cutting twenty million from the from the
Los Angeles Fire Department's budget was the wrong thing to do?
Do you think it was wrong that you weren't here
knowing this is coming? She just stares blankly at she

(20:18):
does an answer, she refuses to talk. She just sits
and ignores them. Wow, while they're asking your questions. Yeah,
it's just such a it's just such it's an absence
of leadership. So that gets me grumpy. Yeah, I talk
about okay, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
There's so many stories coming out of the fires in
southern California. Chris Berry, who was on with us at
the start of the show at four o'clock, sharing a
story about a care center and people in the parking
lot watching. These are elderly people. They're in their bare feet,
they're in their their pajamas, their robes, and they were
evacuated from this building. They're in this parking lot and

(20:52):
they watched their care center burn to the ground. I mean,
that's just one of the very sad stories. Another sad
story that we heard day was from actor James Woods.
Now actor you know James Woods, very supportive of Donald Trump,
very outspoken on his on his X page over time.
But he was overcome with emotion today as he shared

(21:13):
the stunning details about his escape from the Pacific Palisades
fire that's where he lives, and the story of a
ninety four year old neighbor who he was very, very
worried about. I mean, this is his emotion and listen
of the emotion that you'll hear when he talked about
what happened to his home and watching his home burn
an inferno.

Speaker 10 (21:32):
Every house was on fire around us, and you know,
he got him out and the house burned down about
an hour later.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
He would have been in Marlow.

Speaker 6 (21:41):
It was just.

Speaker 10 (21:44):
And then mart called us and told us that that
house had gone in the house below that and the
house on the other side. And then eleven forty nine last.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Night, all the structures damage.

Speaker 10 (21:55):
All the smoke arms in our house alerted our phones.
That are California house we had just renovated for three
years and had just finally moved into about three months ago.
You know, all the smoke wounds to go as hardly.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Hardly a good sign.

Speaker 10 (22:15):
So I'm not sure, but it wouldn't make any difference
because you know, the whole streets burned down.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
So it's an amazing story.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
But the story of this ninety four year old man
lived across the street from him, right, has dementia. He
has a nurse there each and every day helping him out,
and he was worried about him. So he called this
man's son who back in Boston, and said, hey, do
you have a healthcare worker here? And he says, yeah,
we have a brand new one, but she should be there. Well,
they went over to check greg she wasn't there. She

(22:42):
had been told to evacuate, and she evacuated without even
thinking about this ninety four year old man, right, so
you know, so they'd start looking for him in the house.
They can't find him in the house. Apparently he loves
to sit in this little room in the back of
the house to look at his garden, and that's where
they found him. If they hadn't taken a look. That

(23:03):
home had cut fire a short time later.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Yeah, you can hear his emotion. It is, it's it's
heart wrenching. And I'm going to tell you, and I've read,
I've been tracking this there is it is true that
when you get winds that are going seventy eighty ninety
miles an hour, the way that a fire can spread
and how quickly, that there's not a lot you can
do when that happens. But when you don't have water

(23:28):
in your fire hydrants, when you haven't cleaned out the brush,
and the environmentalists haven't let you take the deadwood out
of these forests. And I heard someone say, well, you know,
the trails were all cleared. I'm not talking the trails.
I'm talking about the way that the conservation used to
happen in a environmentally good steward, in good stewardship, where

(23:49):
you took the deadwood, the dead the dead things, and
removed it from there so that you didn't see these
massive fires a tinder box under the banner of environmentalism,
they are leaving these things and letting the dead wood
rot and letting this happen and not allowing anyone there. Look, folks,
we in the state of Utah, we have dealt with
this since the nineties. In the Clint administration, they no

(24:10):
longer allowed the clearing of the of the timber and
the dead timber, and there were plenty of businesses. When
I ran for governor, I saw these rusted out, abandoned
lumber yards and mill mills, saw mills that had for
generations gone into these federal forests and been able to
pull the wood out and then and clean it to
make sure that those fires didn't spread. Because the dead

(24:33):
wood and dead things are everywhere, you were no longer
allowed to go in there. Therefore, those woodmills cease to operate.
Multiple generation, multiple generation jobs or businesses were closed. And
then in Utah you saw when lightning struck in the summertime,
when it was hot, you saw millions and millions of
acres that are destroyed. Because somehow the environmentalists think that

(24:54):
that's better than the way it was being done before.
And that's what they're seeing right now in last stage.
Another big issue involving this, they're running out of water.
The fire officials, the firemen in Pacific Palisades have gone
to hydrants, opened them up.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
No water, no water.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
And now we'll talk about that when we come back.
Because even Donald Trump was aware of this three months
ago when he was on the Joe Rogan Show, and
we'll talk about that and what he had to say.
It's in a pretty pretty amazing story, folks, So stay
with us. It is the Rodding Greg Show here on
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Speaker 2 (25:26):
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Speaker 3 (25:27):
Ray seems the thing we hit four hundred followers, were
we're at two fifty three or something. Just now, just
just be on the show. But he thinks we hit
four hundred.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
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Speaker 2 (25:43):
We'd love to have you. Now.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
By the way, you can see how the show is
done today with some video that rash.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Ey puts them behind the scenes. You see his you
see his master studio.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
If you if you look real hard, and he Ray
pointed this out, you will see a box of milk
bone dog biscuits.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Correct, And there are no dogs here.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
And you may be saying, well, you guys must have
a show dog. Nope, nope, these are dog bone biscuits
that one great ques will eat occasionally.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
I will admit it, I I we may have the discussion.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
We may have to get recording this and post this.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, I get video video that I'll you it started.
I've had a discussion broadly with the iHeart family here
and and I said, no, I've I've been eating these
milk bone dog business a little kid. My grandmother had dogs,
and I started eating them, and I acquired a taste.
And they didn't believe me. So they brought him as
a gift for a Christmas gift, and they thought, oh,
that we'll show him. It was a birthday present, wasn't

(26:38):
it was maybe Christmas? I don't know, maybe his birthday.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
I think it was.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Whatever it was. I've been eating them a nine drums.
They just they're show killers. I can't eat a milk
bone dog biscuit while we're on the air, so I
don't eat them right now. But they are here, and by.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
The way, personal I've seen it with my own eyes.
He does, in fact eat milk bone dog.

Speaker 6 (26:59):
Bit.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Don't try him. You should try try about How do
you know you don't like him if you don't try him.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
That's pretty obvious, isn't it. No, did the average person
out there? How many people are very a milk bone
dog back now.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
More than.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Don't talk about it. When I was a kid, I
probably tried one or two. You know, kids do stupid
things when they become adults.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Did you like it?

Speaker 2 (27:19):
No, we become adults, we don't do that kind of.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
I think they taste I think they actually taste good.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Well, I do your opinion, your opinion?

Speaker 3 (27:28):
So, yeah, I saw them. There are no pets on
the premise. It's just a little tasty snack for myself.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, that he has almost every day.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Do you ever get to know rot on any kind
of personal Just No. He cannot keep anything quiet. He
has to. He'll repeat anything on the show that you
tell him.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
That's true. Yeah, but you never asked me ahead of time.
Can we go off the record on this? See if
you ask me, could we go off the record agreement?
And I wouldn't say anything.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
But the lawbreaker is not something I want you know
widely understood.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
No, uhp. He rives a Cadillacs not here because.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
It's actually getting new breaks because I'm getting it registered.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Oh, you are getting it rightist, but you haven't registered
since July.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
You know what you have me to kill you when
you get Yeah, yeah, it's you know what. I didn't look.
I didn't look. I didn't notice. I didn't notice. You know,
I run at a high speed around here.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Don't you get something in the mail?

Speaker 6 (28:19):
I did.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
And by the way, your car is at a registration
if it's a scent, I didn't see it. I don't know.
I don't know what. I can't explain it. I just didn't.
But here's the thing. It was my nebby sister in
law that saw it and took a picture of it,
and and and family circles try to shame me. And

(28:41):
so that was like news to me that it was.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
U HP.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
No, just you, you're the big narkin here. You're the
one that's narking me out in front of everybody.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Now, don't pull over every black Cadillac. Only pull over
the one that is not registered.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
Jail.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
I had a big seven.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Stick it because it's getting it's getting all the things
that needs to be registered.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
You in the last six months old, Now would you stop?
I'm just can we move on. I'm just reminding you
of Queen Bee's.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Just writing me right now.

Speaker 11 (29:06):
She is.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
She is so loving this. I don't know why at
my expense, these kinds of adequacies entertained Queen Bee so much.
She is just loving this conversation. Yeah, yeah, Well anyway,
it's I told you, I run at a high pace here.
I don't have time for the minutia. Okay, that's minutia.
I'm just you know, I just it's a detail. I
just got to keep moving. I got the big picture

(29:27):
I'm looking at.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Oh, by the way, we are going to continue when
we come back after we get a news update at
the top of the hour, the latest on the California fires,
because there's a lot to talk about.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
There's still in the event.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah, yeah, they still are.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
As a matter of fact, there's the news release being
put out by both the Department of Public Safety and
Department of Natural Resources. I believe we are sending firefighters
in California. Yeah, a couple of miles. So where's be
with you guys? All right, poor hour number two of
The Wingman. Wednesday edition of the Rod and Greg Joke
coming up. Stay with us live everywhere on the brand

(30:06):
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Speaker 3 (30:09):
Download the app. And I'm loving this X page we
have because we are getting you know, first off, we
got a great listener that that likes is with me
on the milk bones.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, he defended you on the milk bones.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
And we have another one that says that to ask
groc if it's actually safe for human consumption, it says
it's it's intended for dogs, but it's generally considered uh
in small amounts able to eat. By the way, I
think it says, well, the box says it cleans my teeth,
so I just figured cleans dogs too. Well, it says
clean teeth. Didn't say dogs, he says teeth. Here's one

(30:40):
it says dog biscuits. But I love this. I'm pretty
sure that RFK Junior would not approved of this for
human probation. Probably one thing that I'm just because I
think I'm a bulldog doesn't mean that I should eat
milk bones. Well, that's open for debate. I do like
milk bones. Draw whatever conclusion you need to, but I
do like the I do love milk bone, by the way,
not the colored if they're green or they're like, I

(31:01):
don't eat the color. You like the basic I like
the oatmeal looking ones, just a natural one. You're a
basic guy, Yeah, I got I have standards, so you know,
so do you.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Know, we'll probably get a sponsor from a dog biscuit company.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Now, only that's the one I would do right there,
I'd go to the mat for milky.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah yeah, Okay, all right, let's get back on more
serious stuff.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Today.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
The numbers are growing. Five people are now dead in
the southern California fires, hundreds or out of their homes.
I think eleven thousand structures have been destroyed. Greg's absolutely amazing.
I'm just looking at video right now on Fox News.
They took a walk down I think the business section
of Pacific Palisades. It is a ghost town. And you

(31:42):
know what's so funny about this. As you look at this,
the fire jumps and skips. I mean, you could have
a neighborhood that's not even touched, and across the street
you could have a neighborhood that's completely wiped out by
the fires. It's just so sporadic.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
One of the oldest and I don't know what smaller
town this was, one of the oldest structures in that
town is burned and just all you see is left
is the frame of it. And it almost looks like
if you saw it in black and white, you would
think it was like the World War two bombed out
Berlin or something. It looks just as it's unrecognizable in
terms of anything there. It's just rubble and ash and

(32:16):
just parts of building still standing. But you really can't
make out what that building was before. I mean, it's
devastation is to see it is real shocking. I worry
about our firefighters from Utah going out there. Yeah, and
I'll tell you what they are, and this is while
they're wired and how they're built. I just we've we've
had fatalities of our firefighters going out to lead to

(32:37):
these fires in California in the past, and and I
wish them, I just I do. I pray for them
and wish the safety. But I just I've lost confidence
that the California even in their hiring of firefighters, they're
so worried about the EI. You have people that can't
even become a firefighter for years if they happen to
be male and white. And you have minorities that are

(32:59):
given priority, top priority, just on socially engineered or social
causes that are not really related to how well you
could do a job without regard to color, creed anything
like that, And and that doesn't make for your strongest
infrastructure or your strongest public safety. And so I don't
know you.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Were talking about that. You were talking about the LDA
Fire Department chief. The chief, her name is Kristin Cowley.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
She is gay.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
She said one of her top priorities as the new
fire chief would be diversity within the la FD.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
You know what it should have been?

Speaker 1 (33:36):
How about human life and property protection your top priority?

Speaker 3 (33:41):
I would think that I think water and fire hydring.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Would pretty good.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
That would be when we think that'd be something you'd
wake up and go, you know what I need? I
need water in a fire hydrant if I'm gonna put
up fire. I'm just thinking. I'm just I'm just I'm
just gonna throw that out there as maybe for their consideration,
you know how much? How much four hundred and thirty
nine thousand dollars? Yeah, well, I mean maybe she's a
great firefighter that I just even in those express priorities,

(34:06):
I don't think there's anything about firefighting involved in what
you just said.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, and the mayor Karen Bath, who oh, by the way,
was out of the country, even though as far back
as Sunday, I believe they were starting to warn people
We've got some very dangerous winds developing here. You better
get ready to evacuate. Where is the mayor? Does she
stay in town? She goes to Africa for the inauguration
of the president in Ghana.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Yeahs at there's no leadership there. There's so much an
elected mayor. We covered this if you're just joining us.
We covered this also at the top of the show
at four o'clock. We had Chris Berry, who is the
chief iHeart media chief, but he's working in Los Angeles
and this issue there because people are really only getting
their information from radio right now on what to do.

(34:51):
Forty thousand required or mandated evacuations and it's just there's
no power. So anyway, he described these situations but also
noted that the absence of the mayor had been felt.
And this is something that and I would tell you
that the mayor could be calling a governor right away.
They could be hearing what the needs are immediately and

(35:12):
being able to express that and demand it. Deputy mayors
just don't do it as well. And so you need
to take that little vacation to Ghana, Africa that you
thought you were going on, and when you saw that
this was coming your way. You need to go be
the leader and be there for your city in the constituents.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
You know what tears me up, Greg, And I mean
they have Unfortunately, if you live in southern California, we
may want to open up our phones to people who've
been there, may have relatives there, what they're seeing, what
they're hearing out there, who may have moved here because
of that situation. We'll get to your calls here in
a minute. But what I don't do not understand this.

(35:47):
We have seen year after year for a number of
years now, Greg, wildfires in southern California. Right What is
being done to protect the people who live there? Is
anything being done out there? I mean, you know, and
they keep on electing the same inadequate people time and
time and time again, as if they're going to solve

(36:08):
the problem.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Well, and I'll tell you so, you're right, And so
you know they're so worried about climate change, how about
or environmental hazards. How about what's just happened now the
particulates in the air, and what's going to happen not
just in California, but as those winds go across the
rest of this country. The pollution that is created. It
cancels out all these environmental low carbon footprint, you know,

(36:31):
social engineering stuff that they foist on us. You can
destroy with this kind of irresponsibility and rod. In twenty fourteen,
the people of California passed a seven billion dollar bond
for reservoirs. Yes, it's ten years later. They haven't built
a single one okay seven billion dollars for a number
of reservoirs because they need the water their environmental hoops

(36:53):
to jump through their red tape. Ten years later, after
that bond has passed, they don't have a single one.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Started project even started. You're right this a matter of fact.
Resident You like Donald Trump? He was on what three
hours with Joe Rogan three months ago. He brought this
up list of what he had to say. This was
three months ago.

Speaker 8 (37:11):
They said we have no water. I said, do you
have a drought. No, we don't have a drought. I said,
why don't you have no water? Because the water isn't
allowed to flow down. It's got a natural flow from
Canada all the way up north, more water than they
could have used. And in order to protect a tiny
little fish, the water up north gets routed into the

(37:33):
Pacific Ocean, millions and millions of gallons.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Of water gets poured.

Speaker 8 (37:37):
I could have water for all of that land, water
for your forests. You know, your forests are dry as
a bone.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Okay, dangerous.

Speaker 8 (37:45):
That water could be routed, you know, you could have everything,
not only dangerous. Billions of dollars a year they spend
on forest fires, and you know, there's a case with
the environment. They're not allowed to rake their forests because
you're not allowed to touch it. And all they have to
do is clean their force, meaning rake it up, get
rid of the leaves, get rid of you know, leaves

(38:06):
that are sitting there for five.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Years, and then we'll certainly get rid of the dead fall.

Speaker 8 (38:09):
And get rid of the trees that are falling in that.

Speaker 6 (38:12):
You know.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
That's Donald Trump on the Joe Grogan Show. That was
three months ago. They've been talking about this for years,
of managing the forest. We've tried to do it here
in the state of Utah. I'm not sure, Greg, what
our status is here in the state of Utah for
trying to manage our forests better. But folks, we need
to do it, and we have got to. I mean,
we're saving a little fish, Yeah, because we don't want

(38:34):
to hurt the little fish.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
If you ever wanted to see the greatest contrast, you
take these bal and Bureau of Land Management federal federally
managed land and I use the word managed loosely. And
then you take our state lands and what we as
a state, our Department of Natural Resource, what we do
to manage and be good stewards of the land. You'll
see robust forests and you'll see a very healthy wilderness

(38:56):
where it's a state wilderness. Where it's federal federal jurisdiction,
it's dry, it's dead, it's a tinder box, and it's
it can literally be on one side of the fence
versus the other side. That is the contrast. Even in
the state of here in Utah in terms of federal
policy that is just begging for environmental disaster and they
do it rod under the banner of somehow they're making

(39:17):
everything better. We had I don't know if we'll play
the clip, but we have some This is a while ago,
but a devastating in the Dixie National Forest of Wildfire
wilderness fire that destroyed millions and millions of acres, and
we have our local officials a friend of mine, Mike Noel,
a former representative with me, and he's from that area
and he knows this issue well, and he has locked

(39:39):
ORMs of environmentalists down, and he's from Kane County and
he's had to deal with federal lands and these people
for a long time. He was livid because of this
beetle that they wanted to save, which meant you couldn't
touch anything and all the dead things that were described
by Joe Rogan and President Trump put it in spades
in terms of Utah, and you know what happened. Lightning
struck and that place went up and you couldn't stop it.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Listen to what Mike Noel said about those fires a
couple of years ago.

Speaker 12 (40:02):
When we turned the four servers over, the burden bunny
lovers and the tree huggers and the rock liquors, we
turned our history over. We're gonna lose our watershed, We're
gonna lose our soils, we're gonna lose our wildlife, and
we're gonna lose our scenery, the very thing you people
wanted to try to protect. It's just plain stupidity. It
is plain stup I'm telling you. I can hear the anger.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
I know him. I call him Pops. He's like a
father figured to me. I can hear that. He is
so mad, and he should be and we all should
be mad at that kind of mismanagement. And to say,
you're not doing it because you're trying to save money,
You're doing it because you want to save the environment. Yeah, right,
I don't think that's saving anything. Yeah, you know, yeah,
I mean, listen to this coming. Here are a couple
of comments. This is a man by the name of
Vic Caruso. He's in southern California. He said, there is

(40:48):
no water in the fire hydrants. The firefighters are there
in the neighborhood, there's nothing they can do. We've got
neighborhood homes burning, homes, burning businesses burning. It should never
have happened. Then you've got this other water official. This
also in Pacific Palisades. We pushed the system to the extreme.
Four times the normal demand was seen for fourteen hours straight,

(41:12):
which lowered water pressure. Three tanks that hold one million,
eight gallons each ran out three times.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
There's no water.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Yeah, they approved to bond what was it ten years
ago now to build water, you know, to retain some
of that water to help that area. Not one project
has been done, Thank you having news.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Look, there are consequences for elections, are there not. We've
been talking about this nationally with President Trump being elected.
Elections have consequences. What's been going on in California for
so long, it's just out of hand. They have the money,
they have the resources, and they spend it to do
to socially engineer people's lives. They want to spend billions
on housing, yet house no one and watch that population grow,

(41:56):
and then your basic public safety they cut. They cut
public safety in Los Angeles, in police officers and firefighters
in the last five years. It's just it is a failure.
But you know what, Californians will have to have to
deal with it. They'll have to deal with it. Adam
Krola said, I know we're coming up to a break.

(42:16):
He just said quickly that when these rich people that
have been all for the causes, and I've not appreciated
what's been going on, let them pull permits and try
to rebuild their homes and look at what it's going
to take and how long it's going to take to
do it. Bureaucracy and all the environmentalists they have to
entertain and make that happy. Now it's going to change
their perspective pretty quick.

Speaker 13 (42:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Well, we know a lot of people who have moved
to this state from California. A lot of people have
relatives in southern California. Maybe in that area. We'd like
to hear from you tonight or maybe you know. Another
question is, Greg, we have a lot of people who
get out in the great outdoors in this state. They're
in the forest. What are they seeing in the forest?
Are they as bad here as it sounds like they
are in California? And what does that mean for this state?

(42:55):
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phone dial pound two fifty and.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Say hey Rod Love wing Men Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
It is a lot of fun, folks, and we appreciate
you being a part of the program. If you're just
doing in us right now, we're continuing our conversation about
what's going on in southern California. You know, a couple
of thoughts, Greg. First of all, there are some Utah
firefighters who are apparently headed that way, Yes, and we
wish them all the safety in the world and are
with their families. They've got to be worrying about this
as well. You know, God's speed, you know, I worry

(43:27):
about it. Yep, yep. Be protected down there. Help those
people out as best as you can. The the the
other issue, of course, is the concern over water down there.
I just thought about this, Greg, Is the smoke this
burning right down going to come our way? We've seen
them before. Yeah, it's kind of kind of crazy.

Speaker 13 (43:48):
Now.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
We want to get your phone calls tonight because we
know a lot of you have relatives down there in
the southern California area, maybe in this area. Hopefully they're okay,
Hopefully their homes haven't been destroyed, if you've had a
chance to talk to them. We just want to get
your reaction to all of this as well. As a
matter of fact, it's an interesting point. Alan, who is
a big listener in the show, We always use emails
me Greg. He says, the fires won't stop until the

(44:09):
wind stop blowing. Look at democratic controlled Hawaii as the
Maui wildfire. Now, look at democratic controlled LA and the
democratic controlled state there. Mismanagement right and left.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
You know, it reminds me of my hometown of Pittsburgh.
They had bridges that were collapsing. I think it was
It might have been in twenty twenty three or twenty
I don't remember, just not that long ago. And they
looked at why in the world, I mean, these are
I'm not talking like a pedestrian bridge, I'm talking the
ones that the vehicles and buses are crossing. And there

(44:42):
was some there were some major accidents as a large
bridge collapsed. They look at the budget. Oh, they have
plenty of money, plenty of appropriations, but they're building bike trails. Oh,
and they're doing e the electrification stations for the e evs,
the vehicles electric vehicles, not repairing and replacing old infrastructure roads,

(45:04):
bridges as government should. They had a social agenda and
that's where they were going to put those dollars and
they were going to leave critical infrastructure issues like the
bridges and roads. And I don't know how they thought
that would work out, but it didn't work out. They collapsed.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Yeah, isn't a funny, greg The politicians love to talk
about building bike paths, making our community, but they don't
talk about the need for infrastructure repair. We need better roads, scoring,
we need better soords, we need better water, we better
need a better emergency services. You bring that up in there,
one goes you.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Know, the sad party. You know what?

Speaker 4 (45:37):
You know why?

Speaker 3 (45:38):
I think Democrats never like the hard work, the bread
and butter of public service because they can't put it
on a campaign fire and they can't get a donor
from it, so they don't care about it. They just
want the stuff that they can get clicks on social
media and donors with social agendas or leftist agendas. But
the real work that a public servant does, they don't
know anything about it. They don't want to do it.

(45:59):
And that's why, and I love it. You have some
New York Times reporter said, had to somehow pull in
Trump to this Los Angeles. It's not the Democrat president
in charge right now. It's not the Democrat governor. It's
not the Democrat mayor. No, it's you know, George Bush
is coming into office. It's really going to get worse.
That's what they're going to talk about. They're going to
go right to the Republican.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
You got it.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Let's go to Robert in Riverton tonight joining us on
the Roden Great Show. Robert, how are you? Thanks so
much for joining us tonight.

Speaker 11 (46:27):
Along great now come out of California.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
Congratulations the People's Republic of California.

Speaker 10 (46:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (46:36):
I spent thirteen years there back in the eighties before
I escaped. But my daughter and son in law and
my wonderful grandchildren still live there, so I go there occasionally.
And I was down there for a few days just
to reckon this all lake this afternoon. And as my
daughter drove me to the airport this morning, going down

(46:58):
to the four or five, we had to drive through
the smoke fires and I took a picture of the
sun rising over as it was coming over the horizon,
and it was not a yellow sun. There was an
orange ball. That was quite a dramatic picture that I
took there, And so it was that was something. Anyway,

(47:23):
one of the things. I don't know. This is kind
of a sight issue, but I saw a headline of
an article that said that the Los Angeles fire chief
was a DEI hire, an LGBT activist, a woman who
apparently has wasted millions of dollars. I don't know. But anyway,
last night we were watching TV and about ten o'clock

(47:46):
the power went off, and I said, well, how long
do you think it'd be off. I don't know, maybe
a day or two, and I said something about, well,
I've got you know, in my home in Utah, I've
got three generators. He says, Yeah, I've been thinking about
getting a generator, but there's so many restrictions on the
ones there in California, says the Hickwick Kevin News. And

(48:06):
I'm I'm going to go to California.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Yeah, you believe that there are restrictions on there generators.
They and and here's the thing. They have so mismanaged
that state. Uh, when they know that high winds are coming,
because their power company has not utility company power company
knows that they've not cut the trees back from the branch,
the branches back from their overhead power lines, they turn

(48:32):
your power off, yes, for as long as that wind
storm will go, because they don't want there to be
a fire. Instead of doing what you see here in Utah,
you'll see them take those trees, cut them back so
that you're not having that kind of danger. They would
sooner turn off the power of the public end mass
than actually maintain and keep those power lines for free

(48:53):
and clear of branches that could break off and bring
them down. And and so then you have that and
then okay, you're gonna shut off my power whenever we
see a windstorm and they won't let you have a generator.
Yeah wow, I mean at some point, what happens with
this state. I mean, you can't keep doing what you're doing,
seeing what's happening here, having you know, a reckoning and

(49:13):
not either change direction or like our last college, just
run for your life get out of there.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
It is a massive state, huge population, and you know,
I think for the fifth year in a row now
number one U haul one way moving is coming out
of California.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Yeah. This last census is the first time since California
has been a state where their numbers were lower than
the census before. That's the first time it's ever happened
in statehood. And I think that's just going to accelerate
and be worse.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
All Right, more your calls and comments, more coverage of
the LA the southern California flyers. Right here on the
Rod and Greg Show in Utah's Talk Radio one O
five to nine knrs. They're what four major fires burning.
No sign at this point that the winds are going
to let up at all. They may die down this
evening but the situation down there is dire. The people
are running out of water, they haven't got a place

(50:01):
to go. It's just it's sad and it shouldn't be happening.

Speaker 13 (50:06):
You know.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
As we had someone on the ground, Chris Berry from
My Heart, that was describing this situation as he's working
on this in Los Angeles, he described forty thousand mandatory
evacuations of forty thousand people. But he said, and this
is a scenario where do you go. You go to
a hotel, you go somewhere. There's no power, the powers
out in most of that area. So you have people

(50:29):
evacuating and there's not a lot of options of where
you can even seek shelter because the whole area is
shut down. Yeah, And so it's and and the thing is,
we're not We're not through it. They don't. These wines
are continuing. As it was pointed out in the show,
as long as those wines are blowing, that fire is burning,
there's that there's they don't see that end. You can
only start to quiet down when the windows stop blowing.

(50:51):
And they're still blowing. So they're in the event right now,
just as they were yesterday.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Think about this, if you're down there in southern California.
You're in that area. You've been told to evacuate. You
don't have family or you don't have friends somewhere in
the Southland area that will take you in. Well, this
is being resolved. What do you do? Like you said,
you go to a hotel? How expensive is that going
to be? You go to a shelter. Would you want
to take your family to a shelter? I'm sorry, the

(51:16):
hotel might not have any power. Any power you're right in,
this shelter may not have.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Any We're gonna sit in the dark there and then
and then like our caller, who's who's escaped the Republic
of California. But they prohibit the kind of generators that
we make available or that you can buy here to
have power in your home. Look, man, I'm so soft
that I've had the power go out. When it's out
a couple hours, I feel like I'm a pioneer. I

(51:39):
feel like I'm on Gilligan's Island or something. I'm ready to,
you know, find some kind of like I don't know,
Guinea pig wheel to get power going. I don't know
what to do, so I can't when they say, two days,
we're gonna be out with two days, two days with
no power, no thing.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Well, you know what this reminded me of? And maybe
because we've grown up in this culture for so long.
As I end today, I thought, how long has it
been since I've taken a look at my seventy two
hour kit? Yeah, I know, you know, start driving, and
I thought, you know, maybe this weekend I'll pull it out.
My family will all pull it out and see if
it needs to be updated. Imagine it does, because the

(52:16):
clothes I put in there years ago probably don't fit
at all anymore.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
No, it's worth kind of going through that whole mental
exercise hurt, doesn't My whole plan is just chef boyar d.
I don't know how long those cans last, but I
could eat it straight out of the can. I don't
eat a heat or any I could just you just
give chef boy or you give me a can, open
and chef boyar d and I'm good to go. We
eat it cold, Yeah, right out right out of the pantry.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
You.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
I don't even put it in a bowl. I just
opened the can. I eat it out of the can. Wow,
it's it's more efficient. It really is. Do you have
any of those your seventy two hour kit? I hope.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
All right, let's get more serious now.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
A lot of criticism being to directed toward LA government officials,
including the mayor what's her name, Karen Bass. I believe
in southern California. She was in Ghana when this happened.
Now over the weekend. I think it was on Sunday.
Chris Barry was sharing this with us. A little bit earlier.
People in that area were warned there are some history

(53:19):
making winds stirring up. You better be ready. Well, where
was Karen Bass? She was in Ghana for the inauguration
of a new president in Ghana on a diplomatic mission. Now,
if you hear something like that, Greg, you're the mayor
of that city. When you say, you know, mister Ghanan
president story, I've gone emergency back home. I've got to

(53:40):
leave early. Wouldn't you leave early? But no, she didn't
show up until today.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
And to give you an idea of what it means
to be mayor there, just the size of the county.
Los Angeles County is larger than all but six states
in America. So the Los Angeles, the city, it's massive,
it's big. Their budgets. I bet you their budget looks
close to what Utah's state's budget is. But I'll just
say this, when you know that happens, it's not even

(54:06):
a decision treating not like, Ah, should I stay at
the inauguration or should I go be the mayor and help?
You don't even think that way. You are a good leader.
Is immediately jumping into action and trying to help everywhere
they can because there is a need that is inherent,
that's out there and she should understand. But she finally
makes it back. Yeah, today, okay, and you have a

(54:29):
waiting media. At least this reporter is not from the
United States, so they're not going to give her the
softball questions. They want to ask some serious questions. Let's
see how Mayor Karen Vass handled a couple questions asked
of her when she finally arrived on the scene.

Speaker 14 (54:45):
Do you owe citizens and apology for being absent while
their homes were burning? Do you regret coming the fire
department budget by millions of dollars?

Speaker 6 (54:53):
Not in there?

Speaker 14 (54:56):
Have you nothing to say today that are se Have
you absolutely nothing to say to the citizens today? Elon
Mosque says that you're utterly incompetent. Are you considering your position.

Speaker 6 (55:12):
Moda mayor?

Speaker 14 (55:12):
Have you absolutely nothing to say to the citizens today
here dealing with this disaster.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
So she's just staring.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
That's amazing. And this goes on for two and a
half minutes.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
These are not questions being shouted from Afar. He is
standing right in front of this mayor, and she is
looking at the ground, and she has absolutely no intention
of answering a single question about you. Would I'll tell
you what I've been a public servant if I'm in
her situation, which I wouldn't be, because I would never
pick some fun trip, you know, to an inauguration versus
a catastrophe coming our way. But if I ever found

(55:46):
myself in that position, my first thing to do would
we look at that camera and tell them what we're
doing in real time right now to save lives? And
I would, and I would start laying it out. Does
she not know? Does she not know what the plan is?
Does she not have the answer for anything? She doesn't
like his question? Answer the question want that you want
to answer, which would be here's our plan of action,

(56:08):
here's what we're doing. This is what and you that's
what a good leader would do. First, they wouldn't do
what she's doing. But there are things she needs to
be saying right now to the public, to the people
of Los Angeles. That she just stares at that ground. Yeah,
and she doesn't have a thing to say to anyone.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
And like I said, we only played about forty seconds
of this. This went on for two and a half minutes.
Two minutes forty one seconds. He followed her from the
elevator down the hall. The people of Los Angeles have
a right to know what is going on, and their
mayor can't say a thing, doesn't have one word, one
word at all.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
And there should be so much she should have been
the briefings and the things that she should have been
learning en route on the way back where she shouldn't
have been and getting back where she should be. The
amount of information she should have ready to say, what's happened,
what we're doing, what you have to continue to prepare
for and evacuate from. These are things that should be

(57:00):
on the tip of her tongue right now. Nothing, nothing
at all.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
All right, We've got a lot to get to more
coming up on the Rod and Greg Show and Utah's
talk radio one O five to nine knrs. If you're
just joining us now, haven't heard the news. As of today,
the fires have now claimed five people. Yes, that's the
number so far. My guess is it will probably grow. Unfortunately,
they've got what I think eleven thousand structures which have

(57:25):
been damaged as a result of this. They're running out
of water. They're trying to figure out where they're going
to get water to fight this. We've got some Utah
firefighters apparently who are on their way down there. We
wish them all the best and all the safety and
are thinking about their families as well. But those are
some of the headlines right now going on in southern California.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
It is and I had coming We found that out
from our contact in Los Angeles that's working with the
iHeart station affiliate station there. And the five fatalities. I
was coming into the show going, I don't know how
we're seeing this destruction and we have not heard of
more fatalities. And I always thought we were really lucky,
and five is too high of a number. Bit I

(58:05):
don't know if that number grows, But you look at
the the scenes that are still happening and that they're
still in the event. It looks like a bombed out
war torn World War two. If you've made if you
took this footage and put it in black and white
and said this was from uh, you know, Berlin and
Germany and World War two, that's what it looks like.
I mean it it is unrecognizable as anything that was

(58:27):
what it was just a few days ago, you know.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
And I was thinking, you know, if you're a firefighter,
and fire people have a lot more education on these
issues than you, and I would certainly, Greg, how do
you fight a fire like this when it's jumping all
over the place, the winds are moving it all over
the place. You'll be in one neighborhood and it's fine.
The neighbor across the street house on fire. You go
to fight that one, then you come back. I mean,

(58:50):
how do you fight a fire like this?

Speaker 3 (58:52):
I really don't know.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
And on nature, I guess to put it out.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
And I was telling you, we were spoking speaking about
this out there an incredibly tragic sorry about one of
our firefighters that it went with a group a city
of firefighters from Utah to California. But this was a
fire that was in their forests, and this particular firefighter
was in an area where they had the planes flying
overhead with the retardant that comes down. One of some

(59:16):
of it came down in a big clump or something.
It hit a tree, It knocked the branch, a large
branch loose, and it fell. That branch fell and killed
the firefighter. But what I'm what I'm thinking when I
think of that terrible story, sad story, is you can't
drop stuff like that in neighborhoods. You can't. I don't
know that you can do that. I don't know that
you could. You could try to fight the fire the

(59:38):
same way you would if it was a wild and
so I don't know what they're doing. And until those
winds stop, I don't know how they contain it.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
So and I and I don't know how firefighters attack it,
especially when it's all over the place. It's not one big,
huge fire that you can move into a house. It's
not that you can't bring the hook and ladder and
start spraying down. And I don't I don't know how
they attack it, because that has got to be a challenge.
And you've got to think about these firefighters. They've been
going now since what yesterday, Yeah, late yesterday, and I

(01:00:08):
bet none of them at this point have had any
kind of break.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
No, And again I go back to some of their
hiring practices. It's just even the firefighters on the ground
probably just inherently need some help with what they prioritized
to be a firefighter.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
All Right, Moore, coming up, third hour of the Rod
and Greg Show here on Talk Radio one oh five
nine k n RS.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
A lot to get to.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Still, we'll keep our eye on what is going on
in Los Angeles and California. Five people are now dead
in that tragedy. He's just herd Abbey and her news cast.
A moment ago, President Trump, president elect Trump meeting with Republicans,
and the Senate today weighed in on this, putting the
blame squarely on the shoulders of Gavin Newsom, the mayor
of Los Angeles, Karen Bass, and also on the administration,

(01:00:52):
the Biden administration. I mean, you know, Donald Trump is
not afraid to speak the truth. And then this one,
I think he's right.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
He said, We're done being ruled by dumpy, being being
ruled by dumb.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
People or by fish.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Yeah, and led by dumb people, and Honestly, I'm looking
at some of the headlines. They were bragging Governor Newsom
Kamala Harris Biden bragging that they were getting rid of dams,
getting rid of dams, Yeah, and which was not which
would have otherwise been holding water and keeping water available.
They've done one of the greatest or most massive removal

(01:01:25):
of dams over the last ten years that zever celebrating,
and they say that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Yeah, amazing, is amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Well, there's a lot of other news to talk about
today and we want to move on, but we will
keep you up to date if there's any late breaking
news coming out of Los Angeles tonight. Fear of a name.
Why is the media and law enforcement greg so afraid
to call terror what it actually is? And I'm referring
to what has happened on New Year's Day in New

(01:01:52):
Orleans and then in Los Angeles in front of the
Trump Tower. Very little is being said Vegas, I should say,
very little is being said about who these guys are
and what they're trying to do, So why are we
so afraid to talk about it? Joining us on our
Newsmaker line right now is Christopher Roach. He's an edgunct
fellow at the Center for American Greatness, writing about this today, Christopher,
how are you welcome to the Rod and Greg Show?

Speaker 6 (01:02:14):
Hey, Rod, Greg, thanks for having me on. Nice to
hear from me all again.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Why are we so afraid to talk about what is
really going on here?

Speaker 6 (01:02:22):
I think that there's a couple of things going on,
one layered on top of the other. I mean, one is,
you know, when you portray yourself as a success, when
you say that the people who are concerned about multiculturalism,
are concerned about open borders, who are concerned about mass
immigration from places in the world that are very, very

(01:02:44):
different from our country and our culture. When all those
things are happening, when something like terrorism happens, it is
a big thumb in the eye of the people that say,
you know, all these things are good. And the people
that like me and Elon Musk and Donald Trump who

(01:03:05):
have criticized and questioned these policies, they no longer look
out of touch or extreme, but rather like they were
well aware of what was happening and were sounding the alarm.
Unfortunately was ignored. And then that's what happened here, I think.

(01:03:26):
And the funny thing is you know, with the attack
of New Orleans, it's amazing less than a week after,
it seems like it's already gone out of the news
cycle and you hardly hear anything about it. I also
noticed they made a huge deal about that guy in
Vegas who appears, from what I could tell, to be
simply someone having a mental health episode and a meltdown,

(01:03:48):
who didn't actually kill anyone other than himself. But they
were trying to give that equal billing to someone who
ran over fifteen people on Bourbon Street. So you know,
I think they didn't want us thinking about Islamic terrorism,
and I think, you know, the problem was with this
case is you know, I heard this guy's name, and
I mean, and the media was extremely cagy about his background.

(01:04:11):
They're saying, well, he's America born, he was in the army.
But you know, if you recall in the San Bernardino
terror attack, the male half of that pair whose wife
came from I believe Pakistan could have been Sadi Arabia,
I don't remember, but he was born in the US.
This gentleman, shamsu Din Jabbar, his father was born in

(01:04:36):
US and changed his name. So I found that only
after lots and lots of digging. And I think the
problem is it's a natural question, you know, meaning is
this a homegrown terrorist or is this someone from overseas?
And I don't want even want us thinking in those categories.
So I you know, it seems it's very similar to

(01:04:56):
the media has a long standing habit of being dirty,
vague about the ethnic background of criminals. You know, criminal
will be on the run and where the police are
looking for him, and they warn you and they say, well,
the young man wearing a red sweatshirt. Well, okay, it's
probably for more details that you're keeping out of that.
And it doesn't do any good for the public to

(01:05:19):
use such a vague description. So it's the same kind
of thing. So why do they do it? Why does
the media do this so reflexively? And not just the
media of but media, politicians, all the various arbiters of
conventional wisdom. And I think that it comes down to this.
They think they are smarter than us, They think they

(01:05:40):
are wiser than us. They think we can't handle the truth.
They think that we will abuse the facts. And the
problem is, racism is a real thing, but facts are
not racist, Facts are not hateful. Facts are not anything
that anyone should be afraid of. Whatever our beliefs and

(01:06:01):
opinions and public policies aren't, should be rooted in reality
and in the facts, you know, Chris. If those facts
can be abused, so be it. But it's better to
have true facts to base our decisions and policies on
than this kind of mishmash of wishful thinking and noble
lives and all the rest that makes up the conventional wisdom.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
If you will, Christopher, you're exactly right in your essay.
As I read it, you compared it to this classic
scene and a few good men. Jack Nicholson is the marine,
you know, and he's and Tom Cruise is the Navy,
you know, adjunct turning whatever he is, and he's. He says,
we deserve a truth, and Jack Nicholson says, you don't.
You can't handle the truth. And you're using that to

(01:06:45):
say we absolutely as a people can handle the truth.
Now let me ask you this. So we have the
same thing happening here in Utah. So we'll have a
Venezuelan gang member, an illegal immigrant who's here illegally commit
a crime. And they'll say a local man of a
town let's say an or a man killed somebody, or
an Illinois man in Utah did this or that in

(01:07:06):
what you find when you look at the probable cause statement,
and some people on social media nowadays do this. No,
this is a person who's saying that they're from Venezuela.
They're from a different country. They are here illegally, So
I feel like they may not think we can handle
the truth. I think that our reaction is we're just
being flat out lied to and misled on purpose because

(01:07:27):
of people like yourself that can actually expose this and
and talk about where the media wants to say, he's
American born, he's in the US Army. They just want
you to think anything, but this person has been radicalized
Islamic terrorist? Does it stop? Do we absolutely reject the
sources we hear? Do they do they pay a price
for lying to us? Because I don't think it's just

(01:07:49):
we want to tell you know, we want to We
don't we want to be nice and give you just
some don't want you to have any harsh feelings. We're
being manipulated and lied to because they think they're better
than us. Does that ever? Does there is there a
come up for.

Speaker 6 (01:08:00):
That I don't know if there is. I mean, I
guess one come up and is you know, Trump just detalected.
And I do feel like at least the big part
of people supporting him was a rejection of this kind
of widespread propaganda apparatus with censorship on social media, the
media pulling stories that they're worried, you know, will influence voters.

(01:08:23):
And I have to say, it's amazing that we are,
you know, just how little faith everyone has in the
American people. Look, there are some people are foolish and
easily misled. That's just reality. That's that's reality too. That said,
everyone knows there's good Venezuelans and bad Venezuela's good Venezuelan

(01:08:44):
immigrants and bad ones. You know, there are there are
Muslims that commit terrorism. There's most Muslims, don't you know.
And there are non Muslims that commit terrorism, like you know,
like commithey McVeigh or something like that. Like most people
can handle a little bit of complexity in their worldview.
And the problem is, and I think perhaps it's because
they themselves are so steeped in so much kind of

(01:09:08):
proper band that half truth. They don't think that people
can handle the truth. But I really think they can.
Life's complicated. We all should know that, and the fact
that some of us don't doesn't mean the rest of
us can't handle reality.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Yeah, yeah, Chris, Yeah, I was going to ask you
that on that note, Christopher. I mean, you know, you
talk about, you know, in the famous line out of
that movie, you can't handle the truth. But I think
Americans really do understand what's going on. They may be
told something different, but they know what's going on. I mean,
they know this was a terrorist attack, and they aren't

(01:09:43):
afraid to say it.

Speaker 6 (01:09:45):
Well, I mean it's pretty hard for anyone to know.
That press conference was one of the most remarkable things
I've ever seen. I mean, here you have a vehicle
with an ISIS flag hanging from the vehicles yes, and
them denying it was terrorism. You know, one of the
hallmarks of ISIS terror and has been these self planned,
self radicalized people just undertaking these attacks on their own initiatives.

(01:10:07):
It's happened in Europe, it's happened in the US. You know,
the Pulse nightclub shooter in Orlando, he was a self
radicalized guy that planned that whole attack with himself and
his wife, and it didn't you know, he was radicalized
by all this propaganda online from the isis crowd, plus
his own interpretation of Islam. I mean, those are the facts,

(01:10:30):
and if people are worried that people will jump to conclusions.
Sometimes we have to make judgments in life. Sometimes we
have to evaluate risks. You know, we don't have to
assume every one in the particular group is bad. If
we say, you know, maybe more immigrants from certain parts
of the world is just not safe, you know, even
as a majority of them are not inclined towards terrorism,

(01:10:51):
crime or anything else, because enough of them are that
it's a risk not worth taking. So I think people
can handle the complexity. And more important, you know that
there are reasonable disagreements of opinion. You know, people can
look at these issues and come to different conclusions. But
we as a society and as a people, can't make

(01:11:15):
You can't really be engaged in proper self government if
we are being deprived of the facts the people who
are supposed to give them to us, which is the
media and to some extent, our government officials, when they
conspire with one another to hide things from us because
they think that we're too stupid or emotional or whatever

(01:11:36):
they think. We're not really living in a self governing,
democratic society anymore. And it's amazing that these are the
our democracy people that make the Setiship quote our democracy.
And yet one of the most fundamental aspects of democracy
is that people are entitled to the facts, and they're
allowed to have their opinions and voice those opinions. So

(01:11:59):
there's something this all goes beyond just being annoyed at
the media's half truths and propaganda. You know, this is
a real stake in the heart of democratic self government.
And that's really what we've been subjected to, you know,
on some level ever since Obama was president.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Yeah, that's true. Christopher is always great conversation. We appreciate
your time, Enjoy the rest of the evening. Thank you, Christopher,
Thanks for having me all right on our newsmaker line.
That's Christopher Roach with a Center for American great man.
That's talking about handling the truth. I remember the what
was it the day after? A couple of days later
on this you had that Washington Post headline, truck kills
ten people.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
Yes, if that truck had a mind of its own,
it was a truck that killed not anybody, no specific person. Truck. Yeah,
truck kills eighteen people or whatever the number was. And
again it's to this point, but it's so self defeating
to treat the public this way and mislead them and
give them information that's not accurate, because you'll you just
end up like I am. We don't trust a word

(01:12:57):
they say. Yeah, Heaven forbid they tell us the truth.
One day we'll never know it because we just they're
just so laden with there you know, we can't handle
the truth. As was pointed out by our last guest.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
Amazing all right, more coming up on the Rodding Greg
Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine k
and rs. Yesterday we launched our new we calling it
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Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
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hit it really quickly. Are we crazy enough to go
to two? We hit the two hundred plus by the
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Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Let's go back to our continuing discussion throughout the day
today on the fires in southern California. The issue has
been water, The issue has been directed. I mean, I'm
seeing video of here's Gavin Newsom. He's got his jeans
on today and his hands in his hip pockets and
he's looking over the fire like he really cares. You've
got the mayor getting back from Ghana today, a diplomatic

(01:15:21):
mission to Ghana. She for two and a half minutes.
A reporter sees her in an elevator, walks with her
down the hall, asking very straightforward questions. She doesn't say
a thing. Now there is a man who challenged her
in the race for mayor in Los Angeles. Who is
saying something tonight, Greg.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
Yes, Rick Caruso, a businessman, a developer, ran a very
strong race. I had a lot to say about why,
what the consequences were a bad leadership and what they're
experiencing in Los Angeles right now. This is a longer clip, folks,
because I want to hear. I want you to hear
the morning show, local morning show person introduce him. He

(01:15:59):
begins to he tries to he tries to fact check
Rick Caruso saying that LA is without water, saying, well,
that's not true. Goes to their on site reporter, who
then said, who obviously didn't hear his fact check, says,
I've just learned from the Los Angeles Fire Department we
have no water. So this is I want you to
hear the whole thing. It's a little long, but you've

(01:16:19):
got to hear the whole thing, because what Rick Croso
says is true. A it's really important. But then listen
to the media tried to downplay and protect this failure
of a government and a mayor. Here we go for.

Speaker 15 (01:16:31):
Maer Eller, excuse me, former La mayoral candidate and real
estate developer Rick Caruso. Criticizing the city's response to the
windstorm and fires, he says officials should have.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
Been more prepared.

Speaker 9 (01:16:44):
Real issue to me is twofold. We've had decades to
go remove the brush in these hills that spread so quickly.
And the second is you've got to have water. And
my understanding is the reservoir was not refilled in time
and in a timely manner to keep the hydrants gone.
So that's a failure, whether I'm bwp's part or another

(01:17:08):
city agency. But this is basic stuff. This isn't high
science here, and it's all about leadership and management that
we're seeing a failure of and all of these residents
are paying the ultimate price for that.

Speaker 15 (01:17:22):
Despite what you have heard from Caruso, no firefighters have
told us that they are running out of water.

Speaker 8 (01:17:29):
And let's go out to Gigi Gracie.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
She is live in Pacific Palisades.

Speaker 4 (01:17:33):
I know your signal's not the best, but Gigi, what
can you tell us? Well, firefighters have told me they
have no water on this block, and you may be
able to make out the ember storm that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
We're in the middle of right now. This house going
to be a total loss.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
They have no water to put on this fire.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
Well that's amazing because we have not been told by
any fire department that they are out of water. Let's
go to our live reporter, Well they have no fire
depart says we have no water.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
We have I mean, yeah, you just love it. Well,
it's you know, the liberal. Now, by the way, we
mentioned earlier that Karen Bass, the mayor of Los Angeles,
is back now in Los Angeles. She was you know,
a reporter caught up with her today and decided to
say something. But now apparently she's issued a statement or
whatever it is. So finally, this from Fox News, all

(01:18:22):
in real time, folks, We're giving you the real deal here.

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
So we had so we had a reporter that was
asking her some very pointed questions. She refused to answer
any of them, and about where she's been, if she
should have been on hand, if she is, she felt
good about the cuts to the fire department that she's
been making she's made in her short time in office,
didn't have a thing to say. Finally, she gets in
front of the press. She states that she took the
fastest way back she could, including a military plane, which

(01:18:46):
helped her, she said, with the communications, of which she's
not very good at conveying. I would I would just
add to that. Yeah. Reporter Bill Malugin gives an observation,
shares an observation that she's reading off a prepared script,
looking down every second as she delivers her first press
conference for this fire. So she has it's almost like

(01:19:07):
a Bill or a Joe Biden moment with his talking
points in his cards. She's looking at a prepared statement.
She's not making eye contact with anyone. She's reading verbatim
off a sheet. She has nothing authentic or genuine to
say in this press conference. She only knows how to
read what's on this script. And I'll tell you her
reading office script is at least a step up from

(01:19:28):
staring at the ground as she's peppered with questions, which
is what we shared with you earlier in the program.
But that's just not leadership. And I'll tell you what
you heard from Rick Caruso, who lost in that La race.
Barack Obama got behind Mere Bass Karen Bass to help
her defeat Rick Caruso. So you know, again, where's where's Baraco?

(01:19:51):
This is his candidate right here, he helped her win.
This is just like the Democrats have done to us
as a country with Joe Biden.

Speaker 13 (01:19:58):
This LA.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
They have a that is just absolutely unprepared and has
no I think any kind of skill set to be
a leader of LA.

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
Right now incompetent. But I'll make a bold prediction in
four years when she's up for reelection, she'll win.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
Sadly, you might be right. I mean, you know that's California.
So that seems to be the trend with it, isn't it?

Speaker 6 (01:20:16):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
It's all right?

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
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We got it. We hit the goal. We were a
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looks like? Yeah, and us actually doing the show, and
that's a pretty cool looking studio facts In no way,
I've got a window in here.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
You know. I I love it. I think it looks great.
But on my posture I look at I'm slouching my shoulders.
I really need to I need to find it.

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No, I I think it's a it's this is a
fun studio to work. And we've got a lot of
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And we're going to do a lot of fun things
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All right, Donald Trump certainly is not letting any grass
grow under his feet. I mean, the guy is about
become president of the United States. Still going to be
sentenced on Friday unless the US Supreme Court steps in,
which they have a very logical argument that he has
made to the courts to prevent him from being sentenced

(01:22:28):
on Friday on the criminal case there in New York.
So we'll we'll keep our eye on that. But today
he was in Washington. Millennia was with him. They went
to the US Senate to visit with US senators, talking
about what needs to get done. He's not letting any
grass grow under his feet, as I used to say.
But you know, joining us on our Newsmaker line. Our

(01:22:49):
next guest is a guy bying a Ward Clark. We've
had a little Ward on the show before. He's a
contributor with Red State. He wrote an open letter to
the American people about what the Republicans should folks on
as they take over the powers of government, and Ward
is joining us on our news maker line right now. Ward,
thank you for this. You know, I'm taking a look
at this letter that you wrote, summarizing for us as

(01:23:10):
you are listeners here what you have to say about,
you know, an open letter to them.

Speaker 7 (01:23:16):
The incoming GOP right now is focused on a lot
of details. They've got a lot of small things that
have to be done quickly. But this letter is intended
to present the bigger picture, a generational picture of what
I think the Republican Party would be most concerned with,
at least to get my vote certainly. And those four

(01:23:39):
things are liberty, property, accountability, and efficiency.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
They all resonate with me. You have me at hello, Ward,
let me ask you this. I don't see a part
I see some members I'd say, even strangely maybe at
Senator John Fetterman from the as a Democrat in the
US Senate who seems to is starting to track some
of the things you're talking about and seeing the sentiment
of his state in the in the in the nation.
But I don't see it really from the Democrat Party

(01:24:06):
at all. Do you think we have partners on the
other side of the aisle on any of this or
is this just going to be more obstructionist from their side.

Speaker 7 (01:24:13):
I don't think we've had a really real ally on
the other side of the fence since the Zell Miller
left Congress. But Fetterman is the closest, you know, Senator
Fetterman is the closest thing they have to a moderate
right now. You know, a now that Joe Manchion is
no longer in politics, he's he's pretty much what they've got.
Maybe Josh Shapiro, but he's not in Congress. He's a governor,

(01:24:37):
but he's But seeing someone's more moderate than the mainstream
of the Democratic Party right now is like saying someone
has better table manners than Conan the Barbaria. It's yeah,
it's all relative.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
Yeah, there really is.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
Yeah, Ward there they're like you talked about, there are
the little things that I think the American people hope
the Republican can get done fairly quickly and govern how difficult.
I mean, when did they really start looking long term?
Or can they do both at the same time.

Speaker 7 (01:25:08):
I would hope they could do both at the same time.
Lyndon Johnson made a famous comment about someone being able
to pass gas and chew gum at the same time,
and then it's they can multitask. There's got to be
some time in the agenda for both. That's what we
put them in there for. This was something of a
transformative election. Now they've only got a narrow lead in

(01:25:32):
the House, but in the House they can they can
use that to get things done. In the Senate, it's
a little harder because of the filibuster. And boy, I
do not want to see them do anything to the
filibuster because sooner related that shoe is going to be
on the other foot and the Senate's going to be
back in Democrat hands. Why hand them that tool?

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
I agree with you. So what worries me about the
just let's go to the House of Representative Congress and
where they have a I don't know what's it, a
two to three member of majority or just historically a
slim margin. A lot of people, a lot of focus
on the Freedom Caucus and wondering why they're not playing ball.
Just as legitimate of a fear would be some Rhinos

(01:26:12):
that are tired of Chip Roy and Massy telling them
what to do, going over and teaming up with the Democrats,
which would be even worse. How do you unite that
caucus that is so that they represent different areas of
our country. Their constituencies don't look carbon copy the same,
but on the principles you just articulated, they really should
be able to find unity. How do you create that

(01:26:32):
with that Congress? I just don't see it right now,
at least at the start, like I was hoping I
would see.

Speaker 7 (01:26:38):
No, there's always there have always been purists and well
in both parties. You know, the Democrats had the same trouble.
They're dealing with their progressive wing, which is mostly taken
over the party. But as we discussed, you know, just
like mentioning Fetterman, there's still some moderates out there who've
got to be frustrated by this. The thing is they've

(01:26:59):
got to understand and this is maybe something the Speaker
could push or President Trump could push in his dealings
with Congress. There's an old saying politics is the art
of the possible. There's always this temptation to fall on
your sword saying we want everything we want and we
want it now. But the Democrats do seem to understand this.

(01:27:20):
They're pretty good at taking what they can get today
and then expanding on it tomorrow. That's what they've got
to do. But they should also have, you know that
letter I wrote, They should also have a firm eye
on what the final goal is.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
Are Mike Johnson and John souon the right people to
pull this off?

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
In your opinion?

Speaker 7 (01:27:40):
Right now ward, Mike Johnson and I favored his getting
the vote because they needed to get to work fast.
There was no time for regularly. There are probably half
a dozen other people I could would rather have. Frankly,
my favorite guy in the Senate is Rand Paul. I
would love to see him a sentiment later in the House.

(01:28:03):
It's hard to say, although after the other day and
his ex post directed at Biden's natural gas policy, boy,
I would sure put in a vote for my own
new Congressman, Nick Begots the third because he called Joe
Biden a slb on X and if I hadn't already
voted for him, I would have after that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
So, what's your prediction. I think we're in historic times.
I think, well, I think there'll be books written about
this time. I think history will have a great detail
of what happens in the coming months and years, I think.
And so I think we're living in that. What do
you predict we'll see here? And let's just say the
next year with the Republicans in control, albeit small in
the House and in the Senate, and with the presidency,

(01:28:47):
with Donald Trump's leadership, what's going to happen?

Speaker 7 (01:28:49):
In your mind, what I'm hoping to see, yes, is
the government, the federal government cut down to size. We're
in his debt crisis, and that has to be addressed.
It's wildly inflationary, it's damaging to the economy. Sooner or later,
the whole thing is going to blow up in our faces.

(01:29:10):
And when you're in a hole, you have to stop digging.
And that means stop spending, and I don't mean reductions
in the rate of increase that they've got to cut.
And we've got Elon Musk and Vivic Ramaswamy, who granted
our only advisors. Theyn't have any power, but they're focused
on that we have to restore our military. Our military
is a mess. It's not the army I was in

(01:29:32):
in the eighties. Because we're vulnerable until that's done. And
we have a niche across the Pacific Ocean that is
getting increasingly aggressive.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
Ward Clark joining us from Red State, talking about an
open letter he wrote to the American people. The four
principles he talks about, and I think you and I,
Greg would agree with all of these. Number one is liberty,
Number two is property. Number three is accountability, and the
fourth one, when we get it, it's on this page.
If I can get an efficiency right, someone said I

(01:30:03):
heard that, I've got to have Steve. Steve Moore should
be on with us tomorrow, the economist extraordinaire. Yes, if
we simply took back the spending levels of the federal
government prior to the pandemic, all during the Biden years, Greg,
they've been about six point five trillion. If we simply
back to them back to pre pandemic levels, we'd save

(01:30:24):
two and a half trillion dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:30:26):
It's amazing, and we should be just take them back,
just take it back to this, take them back to
those levels. There's nothing that we we need to do that,
we can't do that, that's something we could.

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
Do all we need to do. All right more coming up,
final segment of the routing. Greg Joe right here on
Utah's Talk radio one oh five nine k NRS.

Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
Just breaking. CNN's Anderson Cooper gets what is usually the
silver tongue Fox himself, Gavin Newsom gruesome and and he's
going to have him comment because clearly the mayor doesn't
have anything to say that she has can't read off
a piece of paper for once or two sentences. So
here we have Governor Newsom and he's in Anderson Cooper

(01:31:05):
wants to ask him what he has to say about
President Trump's criticisms of him and their leadership or lack
of in the state of California that's resulted in what's
happened today. Let's have a listen face.

Speaker 13 (01:31:15):
We're in the public safety face.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
I hate to even ask this question, but the president
elect chose to attack you, blame you four.

Speaker 13 (01:31:22):
Days one can't even respond to it. I mean, it's
uh yeah, people are literally flean. People have lost their lives,
kids lost their schools, families completely torn asunder, church has
burned down, this guy wanted to politicize it. I have

(01:31:42):
a lot of thoughts, and I know what I want
to say, I won't. I stood next to the President
of the United States of America today and I was
proud to be with Joe Biden, and he had the
backs of every single person in this community. Didn't play politics,
didn't try to divide any of us.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
He's not trying to divide anybody. Do you hear Ronald
Trump pointing out fact.

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
Yeah, he's not standing in front of a fireplace, So
that's that's that's that's stating, that's a that's a home
burning down right behind him. That you can hear as
he's talking. It is called accountability. I mean, he says
that he's trying to politicize it. No, we're pointing out
there was an attempt to try and help your state.
There was an attempt to try and get more water there.
We have tried to do it before. You wanted to

(01:32:22):
save fish, and you want to talk to the environmentalists
about preserving you know, the environment, and this is the
consequence of it, and people are going to connect those dots.
Governments and whether you think that's politicizing because it doesn't
really go your way too bad? It's faced the music
pal this.

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
Is this is a governor Greg who and I watched
this at the beginning of Jesse water Show tonight, who
has taken down four or five damns in his state.

Speaker 3 (01:32:46):
That's right, and he's proud of he's bragging. He said, Hey,
looky this, We've eliminated these damns.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
We've returned the lands that articulating.

Speaker 3 (01:32:53):
These people have lost their homes, their schools, their churches,
their lives torn asunder. As he says, do you think
because you just said that out loud, that you're you
just got a pass like somehow you're on their side.
You helped create this nightmare? He helped create it, and
he has no sense of that as you listen to
his answer.

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
So help me understand this. If someone like Donald Trump
points out to you that you're responsible or you played
a role in this.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
That's politicizing it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:19):
If he's just stating, fast, isn't that beautiful? Isn't that
convenient and comfortable to never have to stand for anything
anytime you're criticized, Well, that's politicizing. Why are you should
say that now?

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
When people call us and they're on the show we
don't like what they say or say you're politicizing.

Speaker 3 (01:33:32):
Why are you politicizing everything? You don't know? It's it's
the Democrats have always done this. If you've had if
there was a white supremacist or some nut job that
kills someone, they'll tell you that that this what their
politics are, and how that spreads across every Republican or
anyone right of center. It's all their fault. If it's
someone that's liberal or someone that they'll just like our
guests said, they'll never tell you who they are. They'll

(01:33:54):
never do it, and then they don't want you to
politicize it by bringing it up. You know, places with
gun control laws when use a gun, don't politicize that
there are gun control laws here, and people use guns
anyway anyway, It's just a it's a liberal trick.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
I just hate to say this.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
Why I think is going to happen after all of
this A year or two down the road, nothing will change.

Speaker 3 (01:34:13):
We'll see, I you know what I want to see
if I destroyed, if it should wake up call.

Speaker 1 (01:34:20):
Wait until they run into the bureaucracy of trying to
get a home rebuilt in So yeah, we'll.

Speaker 3 (01:34:24):
See if they would grease the palms, or if they
got to go through the bureaucracy they created.

Speaker 1 (01:34:29):
Good luck with that, folks. All right, we'll have much
more on this tomorrow and the show. Thanks for joining
us tonight. Head up, shoulders back. May God bless you
and your family and this great country of ours. Be
safe out there, folks. We'll be back with you tomorrow
at four

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