The Rod and Greg Show: Bidens Farewell Address; Karen Bass; Should State Stop Taxing Social Security?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Did you see what he said today about Trump, the
big announcement on Israel and Hamas coming to some sort
of seatsfire agreement. And he was asked after he announced
that if Donald Trump may have played a role in
all of this, what do you say, is that a joke?
It's not a joke, Joe Biden. You know exactly that
Donald Trump played a role in this. He had his
own negotiator, on his own dime over there working out

(00:23):
this deal, and Hamas they were scared. You know what,
lists because of what Donald Trump said. He's coming after him.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Multiple times. He has put out the words that if
you don't get it done by the time I get
on the clock, you're gonna wish you did. Yeah, he
said it a bunch of times. Don't tell me is
it a joke.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
No.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
They take him more seriously than you missed President. They Yeah, So,
even when he's not in power, when he says it,
they know he means it.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
You and I have talked about this in the past.
What the Democrats don't understand in this country, or the
piece nicks, what they do not understand in this country
is there a people like Ji in China, Putin and
Russia has belah Iran. They understand two things, strength and power.
And Donald Trump brings them and he means what he says.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
It's peace through superior firepower.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Okay, that's what you want to. You want to you
want someone to not be a bully, then don't put
up with bullies. Yeah, bullies don't. Bullys don't disappear.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
And when when people you know, are in the absence
of someone that's strong, they bullies appear when people are weak,
that's when bullies come. And and so yeah, of course,
once once we get stronger, once the world gets stronger,
bullies like Hamas and and hes blah, they're they're gonna run.
They're just gonna scatter because they know they're not. Their

(01:40):
act isn't going to be put up with much longer.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, it's pretty amazing. And I tell you what, Uh,
he scared the daylights out of them. And I think
and the Mid East to change, Craig and we can
get into that a little bit later on. We've got
a lot of other things to get to today.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Marco Rubio and Pam Bondy, we're both up on Capitol
Hill today in their confirmation hearings. Rubio did a great job,
so didn't Bondy? A boy, did the Democrats ever get
after Bondy?

Speaker 2 (02:07):
You know, I am just shocked. They are taking the
tone that they usually take with Republican presidential nominees for
Supreme Court the confirmation hearings. I want to remember them
having a little more decorum, less hyperbole and shameless attacks.
But the Democrats, I mean, they are just trying to

(02:28):
go for broke. But I can't imagine they have any
chance of any of these accusations. And to listen to
Adam Schiff as a senator have that kind of stage
and talk that is work. I mean, just scratch chalkboards
in my ear for the rest of my life. And
it doesn't even come close to listening to Schiff speak
in a Senate confirmation hearing.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Well is still worse. We'll let you hear that here
in just a minute. Also coming up, had Southern California
hit rock bottom. This is something that Greg and I
disagree on. He claims that they are going to be changes.
My contingent is not a change will take place. They'll
keep on electing the same people. Now Bass maybe out
of a job. Gavin Newsom's not going anywhere.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well his I think his presidential aspirations, he's gone, please,
done that. But I and I don't think they actually
get wise. I just think they're selfish and for their
own purposes like rebuilding and not wanting to have to
go through the red tape and the environmental melee is
they've created. They'll wise up and at least make it
practical for them. Maybe they'll go back to the old
way once they get through it. But they got a

(03:29):
lot of issues that they got to navigate.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
And why is it greg in this country? And we'll
talk to someone about this a little bit later on
in the show. Karen Bass, the mayor of la I
think most people agree she's very incompetent. Yes, you know,
but the moment you say that you're accused of being.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
A racist, I know what it started with.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Why does that happen in this country?

Speaker 2 (03:48):
If you have anything critical by way of lack of leadership,
any any substantive policy issue with a leader elect the
leader that is a minority. The first thing that the
other side says is that you're there's no room to disagree,
there's no space to have different opinions. You just suffer
from a moral you have moral lacking. Yeah, you're just

(04:10):
You're just you're a racist.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
We'll talk about that, but in a lot of other
By the way, the President, as we mentioned, going to
address the nation today outlining his wonderful achievements in the
past four years, and we'll try and catch a bit
of that coming up in the six o'clock Cowry. Now,
let's get to the Senate confirmation hearings. Sparks flew today
during the Pam Bondi confirmation hearing. Of course, she has

(04:32):
been nominated by President Elect Trump to become the next
Attorney General. I personally think she will do a fantastic job.
I've always liked her. But I the Democrats on this committee, apparently, Greg,
they have no shame whatsoever. I want you to listen
to this question asked by Maidie Herona from Hawaii.

Speaker 6 (04:51):
Right.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Maidie was not about her fifth drink of the day
today when she asked this question. Listen to what she
was asking Pam Bondi.

Speaker 7 (04:58):
As part of my responsibility sure the fitness of all nominees,
I asked the following two initial questions. First, since you
became a legal adult, have you ever made unwanted requests
for sexual favors, or committed any verbal or physical harassment
or assault of a sexual nature. No, Senator, have you
ever faced discipline or entered into a settlement relating to

(05:19):
this kind of conduct?

Speaker 1 (05:20):
The Senator, what intar nations? Kind of question is that?

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Well, I mean, I mean, we just have something bruin.
They've got you made a point, something else cooking out there,
all these people. You see these people show up and
you know, eighty years ago this person said this or
that what she just said no to? They're going to
have someone say there was an advance made towards me
that was unwanted by her. Yeah, and it will be

(05:46):
someone no one's ever heard of. It'll be someone from
thirty five, forty years ago. But that's I mean, look,
that's all the Democrats ever have had. I would hope
with Kavanaugh not being defeated because of it, the last
stunt they pulled, and and the way we're moving forward now.
I mean, anyway, if past history meant anything, Kamala Harris
wouldn't have been the vice president and she is, and

(06:08):
she actually got to be their nominee.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Apparently your past history didn't mean a thing. Then, I
just I think they'd be best to not try to,
you know, so, I think I think that's just a
I think it's a harbinger of garbage to come.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
That is what I worry now. Also on that committee,
as you mentioned, good hold Adam Schiff Shiftless himself my headphone,
who is now a senator from the City of California.
He decided to get into Pam Bonder.

Speaker 8 (06:37):
You seem reluctant to answer a simple question. Let me
ask you a different simple question. The President also wants
to jail Liz Cheney's sitting here today. Are you aware
of any factual basis to investigate Liz Cheney?

Speaker 6 (06:49):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (06:49):
Or no?

Speaker 10 (06:50):
Senator, that's a hypothetical, and I'm not going to answer.

Speaker 11 (06:53):
No.

Speaker 8 (06:53):
I saw hypothetical. I'm asking you, sitting here today, whether
you are aware of a factual predicate to investigate Liz Cheney.

Speaker 10 (07:00):
Senator, no one has asked me to investigate Liz Cheney.

Speaker 8 (07:03):
That is, the high President has called for it publicly.
You are aware of that, aren't you.

Speaker 10 (07:08):
No one has asked me to investigate. Always be worried
about right now.

Speaker 8 (07:17):
You're aware of the rooms by.

Speaker 10 (07:19):
Your robbery is a higher than the national question. That's
what I want question.

Speaker 6 (07:25):
Is this the.

Speaker 12 (07:28):
President?

Speaker 8 (07:29):
And what you're suggesting today by your non answer, is
you don't have the independence to say no to the president.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
I would love that. I loved it that she stood
up to him. She also mentioned during that exchange that
Adam Schiff was censored by Congress. I know, I love it.
I'm forgot he forgot that. By the way, now it
got a little easier when you tell sender Mike Lee
started asking your questions. Here's the question that sender Lee
asked during the hearing today.

Speaker 11 (07:54):
We have seen over the last few years, the weaponization
of government, specifically within the Department of Chess against law
abiding Americans. Law abiding Americans whose offense was something along
the lines of them exercising their constitutional rights, ranging from
Catholics attempting to practice their faith, to parents showing up

(08:15):
the school board meetings, to people showing up to engage
in peaceful protesting outside of abortion clinics. As Attorney General,
how will you prevent the weaponization of the Department of
Justice against Americans?

Speaker 10 (08:28):
And Senator you just gave the classic example of what's
been happening regarding the weaponization I'm going after parents at
a school board meeting. Has got to stop. For practicing
your religion. Sending informants in to Catholic churches must stop.

Speaker 11 (08:48):
What about branding parents as domestic terrorists? Were trying to
incarcerate one's political opponent as a sitting president of the
United States, will stop, not going.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
To happen, will stop. So she did very well today.
She stood up to these Democrats like you wouldn't believe.
Marco Rubio did well in his hearing today. So you know,
this is the role that Democrats want to play right now. Greg.
But I think these cabinet appointees are going to get confirmed.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
I am too. I just I think I think that
some of these questions line of questions is just again.
I think it's showing the American people how detached and
tone deaf the Democrats are. They don't have real questions.
They're just all gotcha questions. They want to go back
to the election, They want to go back to January sixth,
they want to go back to I mean, they just
they don't have anything real.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Why is this so important? Greg, And I'm trying to
understand this. Why is it so important that Democrats constantly
ask people, and they ask Pam Bondy again today if
she thinks Donald Trump lost the election in twenty twenty,
Why is that so important for the Democrats to hear
Republicans say yeah, he lost the election.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Why It's because I think they still are stuck on
this insurrection line of logic. But I just say, well,
let's talk to Hillary. What does she think happened in
six She'll tell you in a night and in a
nanosecond that she got robbed. Putin had like Facebook bots
that tricked everyone into voting for Trump, says it without
a shame.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yep. All right, A lot to get to when we
come back here on the Rod and Greg Show. Has
California hit rock bottom? That's coming up on Utah's Talk
Radio one oh five to nine K and our Well,
Greg and I have had this ongoing debate since the
fire started in California last week about what is the future,
what will the future look like for California Now? Greg argues,

(10:29):
what there's going to be changes? Right?

Speaker 2 (10:31):
You believe that I think the luxury beliefs and luxury
issues have now become kitchen table beliefs, the kitchen table
issues and out of just sheer necessity. They are going
to have to get a little more serious with the
issues they prioritize, and there you will see a sea
shift in southern California because of it.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
See and I see no change whatsoever. Maybe a few
elected officials, but California is California, and I don't think
they've hit rock bottom yet. And that's why we want
to bring our in their next guest to talk about that,
Kirk schlick Through, who lived by the way in southern California,
senior columnists at town Hall, Kurt, what say you have
California hit rock bottom yet?

Speaker 6 (11:08):
Oh, it hasn't even come close.

Speaker 13 (11:12):
If it did hit rock bogg and they pull out
a shovel and.

Speaker 6 (11:15):
Which they pay for and start digging.

Speaker 13 (11:18):
Yeah, I know they have a local illegal alien do
the digging. They Californias don't actually do any work for
themselves anymore.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
So you don't think that there is a sobering that's
occurred that maybe these environmental laws, the red tape you
can't build anywhere now that it applies to them themselves,
not because they're higher minded or now they have a
little more empathy, but just out of the pure self
interest they're not going to detest this red tape and
all the environmental hurdles they've put in their own way.

(11:47):
Now they are not going to change any of that.

Speaker 13 (11:51):
Look, the liberal policies of the liberal politicians that they
voted for, including bad forest, free DEEI and all the other,
all the other things pale in comparison to the fact
that if you vote for a Republican uh, you might
make it slightly harder to kill someone's baby.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, you know, we.

Speaker 13 (12:17):
That's literally it. It is much more important to hypothetically
be able to more efficiently kill a baby, uh than
to actually perform the basic uh.

Speaker 14 (12:28):
Functions of governments.

Speaker 13 (12:30):
And we see this a lot. You know, these these
these places get really bad and then they reach out
to a very squishy, squishy Republican, you know, the guy
with the spine made of tofu like a Romney got
elected governor of Massachusetts Juliani, who at the time was
a very moderate Republican.

Speaker 15 (12:48):
He's from more O Magga.

Speaker 13 (12:49):
Now they made him uh mayor of Chicago. Even here
in la we got Richard Reardon, who was the softest
imagina Republican. And they will get somebody who's a very
it's still soft, but nowhere near as communists, and who
actually knows how to govern. Governing does not enter into
the equation. That is not what they're concerned with. They're

(13:13):
concerned with their own power and that's that's literally all
that matters to them.

Speaker 6 (13:19):
And we've seen the results.

Speaker 13 (13:21):
It's all covering my car with a thin layer of ash.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, Kurt, what prevents them? And you raise some very
good points here, But what stops them? What is in
their inner core from kissing the face of reality right
now and actually see what happened and what caused this disaster?

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Well, look like me.

Speaker 13 (13:40):
You guys have a part of you inside of you.
It's filled up with faith and family. In the flag
they have that same empty space, but it's filled up
with commy gobblede. These are religious fanatics. This stuff is
a it is it is what substitutes what normal people

(14:04):
have as as transcendental values.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (14:08):
They have as fashion. All their friends vote for the
same damn communists.

Speaker 10 (14:14):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (14:15):
And and most of them will too. Now some of
them will come around. Have you noticed there are a
lot more people who say, you know, I'm a former liberal.
You see a lot of people going I'm a former
conservative sick of the efficiency, and and and you know,
love of contry. But there are a lot of people
who are former liberals. You you will see some movement,

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but it's it's going to be at the fringes. It's
going to be a few people with a strength of
character to look deep inside themselves and say, you know,
I'm tired of failure, you know, and they move on.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
You know you I trust what you're saying. I I
really do, because you're in the belly of the beast.
You're there, you got the ash cut coating your car,
You're well, I don't even know how you put up
with it out there, but you're there. I want to
bring up to the about.

Speaker 16 (14:58):
A week ago, I was a this futi Uh.

Speaker 13 (15:02):
I'm like a baron in this feudal land California. You understand,
life is really good for a guy like me. I
live in a a wonderful area. The cops don't let
criminals come. You think that you think bumps are gonna
come in my area?

Speaker 2 (15:17):
No, don't.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
Look it's tolerate that colices.

Speaker 13 (15:22):
But it's like that, Yeah, it's the normal people. But
serfs live live a very difficult life.

Speaker 16 (15:30):
And I'm not happy about it.

Speaker 13 (15:32):
California was a middle class state when I got here
in seventy two as a little kid, and you know,
I was middle class and that's what made California great.
And the middle class is now moving down the street
from you guys in Utah.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Well, speaking of you, ty.

Speaker 17 (15:46):
One, they're not bringing their politics.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
With well, I hope not so. You you made some
news you mentioned DEI you you sent out a tweeter
a message to Governor Greg Abbott ken Paxton, Attorney General
in Texas, and you want to know a little bit
more about this Nate Sharp, this dean at Texas A
and M's Business School, and wondered why this this state
institution of public of higher learning in Texas would be

(16:10):
okay with going to sending their students that are not white.
Heaven forbid Orasian to adi conference there. The connection to Utah,
as I see, is that this dean happened as his
bachelor's and master's degree came from Brigham Young University. This
guy has had some touch in our red state. Can

(16:30):
you tell our listeners share it with our listeners a
little bit about what's going on here? Because the governor
responded to you. You got a hell no out of them.
I mean, good job, I mean he said to you.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Nope, I.

Speaker 13 (16:41):
Have a second house at Texas.

Speaker 15 (16:43):
I've got one foot in California.

Speaker 13 (16:45):
I'm not totally willing to leave, but i love Texas too.
The problem with red states and you guys know it too.
We from outside. Look at Utah, we're like solid red
and you've got the squishiest gumby politicians.

Speaker 15 (16:58):
This guy is the new senator.

Speaker 18 (17:03):
It seems a little masculine for me.

Speaker 13 (17:05):
And you're freaking governor.

Speaker 16 (17:07):
Good god.

Speaker 13 (17:08):
See if the thing is, if you're in a deep
red state, everybody's got to be a Republican to be
to even have a chance. See a lot of people
would be a Democrat anywhere else. So that's a problem,
and you gotta fight it. Greg Abbott is fighting. Texas
is a red state. Uh but there are lots of
Republicans and uh they they they need to be brought

(17:30):
to heel. We need to get serious about this stuff.
Unless you know, and and it's warning to you.

Speaker 17 (17:35):
I warned the governor.

Speaker 16 (17:37):
Look I've been through.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
This, Governor.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
I'm warning you.

Speaker 13 (17:41):
I don't want you know they allowed this d I
nonsense to go on here in California, and thousands of
people got burned down of their houses.

Speaker 16 (17:48):
Two doesn't got killed.

Speaker 13 (17:50):
This serious to don't let it happen.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
There you go, Kurt has always great to have you
on the show. Take care and keep up the good
fight there in southern California.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
The Paul Revere, you keep going. We love it.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
All right, Kurtzlickter from town Hall, always very entertaining getting
after the people are squishy politicians here in the state.
Mark coming up on the Rod and Greg Show. The
word incompetence is being tossed around when it comes to
how local officials are reacting to the fires in southern California,
and a lot of that attention is being directed toward
the mayor of Los Angeles, who told her constituents when

(18:28):
she ran for office she would never leave the state
to go someplace internationally. She did, and she left when
there were warnings that these wins could turn into a
potential disaster. The criticism, as we know, Greg is anyone
it criticizes her. It's been called a racist.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
It is. It's there. They deflect and they've been they
do it quite well.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, they do well. Joining us on our Newsmaker line
to talk more about this is Adam Coleman, and he's
a founder of wrong Speak Publishing, also a contributor to
The New York Post. Adam, how are you welcome to
the Rodin greg Show.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
Thank you for having me on. I'm doing well, Adam.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Why can't we criticize Karen Bass? What is it that
we can't criticize her?

Speaker 5 (19:13):
Well, you can criticize anyone, in my opinion, but there
are certain diehard supporters of hers who want to presume
that any sort of criticism of her is coming from
some unfair racial bias, when in the reality, the same
people who are criticizing her are also criticizing Gavin Newsom
or just in the fact that anytime there's any sort

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of natural disaster or emergency, a governor, a mayor, or
whoever is the person who is in charge of a
given area that's affected is always held under scrutiny as
to what they did. And sometimes the criticism is fair
and some times it's not right, but that's what comes
with it. If the economy does well, they blame the president.

(19:58):
If it doesn't do well, they blame the president like
that's that's what it is. So I I think it's
just coming from thankfully not everybody, but I think it's
coming from vocal supporters of hers who always wanted some
sort of somehow deflect from what she has done or
what she hasn't done.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
So how do you combat that? I mean, I I
mean I found I found myself during the Obama presidential years,
having issues on policy, feeling that like any president, in
any person, there's room for disagreement. I mean, I'm going
to see the world differently. Inherently everyone, no one's the
carbon copy of another. But these accusations of a moral
failing became became quick and fast in terms of any

(20:42):
criticism about President Obama. But then and then continuing on
and we're seeing it now with this mayor Karen Bass.
So what do I say? What's my second sentence? I
guess when I say that, I have not seen this
kind of incompetence. When you get on the ground, albeit
you've been late, you were in you were in an
inauguration in Ghana, you got on the ground. Instead of
jumping into the first five things you're doing simultaneously to

(21:04):
help people and save their homes or whatever it is
you're doing, you stare at the ground silent and you
have nothing to say nothing, You don't even reach out
to the governor. When I make that comment and I say, well,
this standard that you're thrown out there is because of
your inherent racism, What do I say to that would
give just coach me?

Speaker 5 (21:24):
I guess well, the first thing I would tell anyone
is that you should never try to prove your heart
to someone who is coming from a bad faced position,
like just don't even engage with that stuff. The second
thing I would say is, don't stop criticizing. If your
criticisms are fair, then keep doing it. I think when

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people throw these things out, what they're trying to do
is stop people from criticizing, stop people from seeing the
thing that they're seeing. And when you do that, then
they win. So I think it's a tactic. I don't
think it's meant to be truthful. I think it's a tactic.
And sometimes I think it's projection. People want to project

(22:06):
how they see the world, right, And the reality is
that for those people who say that to you, that's
how they judge the rest of the world. So they're
actually the ones that are racist when they're claiming that
you're the one who's racist, Adam.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Are you surprised in any way the number of those
on the left who are coming to her defense. I mean,
you mentioned that there apparently is a change dot org
petition underway that labels those who are critical of her
inept as an attack on her blackness. Are you surprised
by that at all, Adam, No.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
But not much surprises me since twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, good point, good point.

Speaker 15 (22:48):
But no.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
The good thing is that if you were to go
to that Changshaw or petition, it's not a lot of people.
So while the article isn't to say that everyone is
like this, obviously there are a lot of Democrats who
live in Los Angeles County or in the city of
Los Angeles who are critical and they're saying what is
going on, and they're rightfully doing so, and they're of

(23:13):
the same particular party. There are people who are black,
there are people who are white and other backgrounds who
are asking the same questions. So I think it is
it is a vocal minority, but and I'm thankful that
it's a very small minority of people.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
So there's some recall petitions being circulated in southern California.
I'm one for Gavin Newsome, that would be two for
him if that were to happen. But this one for
Mayor Karen Bass do you see any traction on a
recall measure for the Los Angeles mayor.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
I'm not a California person. I'm not too in tune
when it comes to California politics. I know some people
within California, and I'm slowly learning more about the local
politics of California, which are different than other places that
I'm familiar with, more in the on the East Coast.
So I really can't say. I think if the anger persists,

(24:11):
and if it stays at the forefront of people's minds,
then it might be possible. So I think it really
just depends. It also depends what's the alternative, and that
that could play a part into it. But if if
she does a really good job and response, you know,
and you know, offers a lot of the people and

(24:34):
and does certain things that could change people's minds. But
right now, people are very emotional, rightfully, so, especially if
they're the ones who are affected or know people who
are affected. So it just really depends. It depends on
how much that hurt stays.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, that's for sure. Adam is always great chatting with you.
Thanks for a few minutes today, My pleasure on our
news Baker Line. That's Adam Coleman, founder of Wrong Speak
Publishing and the contry to the New York Post. More
coming up on the Rod and Gregg Show and Talk
Radio one oh five to nine, Kate and our ad
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on News Nation last night. Of course the Pete Haigseth
hearing confirmation hearings yesterday, where in many ways he did
a great job. He's quick on his feet, he had
all the right answers in my opinion. But of course
the Democrats went after him, including Tim Kaine Ye who said,

(25:34):
how you you took an oath in your marriage to
remain loyal to your wife, yet you break that oath
right and you had a fair on your wife. So
how can we trust that the oath you'll take to
become Defense Secretary, that you'll uphold that oath.

Speaker 19 (25:51):
Here's what Chris Clomo had to say, about that two
points of disgust. How many people on that committee. How
many Congress could pass the Cane test that you can't
honor an oath to serve if you've ever been unfaithful.
Caine may be sitting in that room alone.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Who cares when we.

Speaker 19 (26:12):
Are talking about being the top warrior, not our pastor.
I'll tell you who agreed with me once about this,
Tim Kin? He supported Bill Clinton for president. He didn't
say he couldn't serve. Despite all he knew about his peccadillos,
he still backed him. Why is president not as important
an oath?

Speaker 3 (26:31):
So?

Speaker 1 (26:31):
What changed? Well? What change was that? You know, Pete
Hagsath is a Republican vine for a Republican cabinet post
under Donald Trump?

Speaker 2 (26:40):
What changed with Chris Cuomo? Because this guy used to
tote the line.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
That's a good question.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
I think I know the answer is got railroaded out
of being governor. That's true with the me too stuff.
He got Railroad. He got Railroad right out of that job.
They accused him of things at CNN and he had
to go. I think, like many Democrats who feel like
their party turned against them and shoved them out, these
guys are I think the cuomos, Andrew and Chris or

(27:06):
roadkill from the leftists and their agenda. And it's sad
what it takes for them to see the light. But
what he said is right.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, I think they're waking up. I mean, they're just
looking at what's going on in this country today and
all of a sudden, there are a lot of people
out there who are going, you know what, We've had
some issues here. They've screwed this up, and we've got
to go back and fix it.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
The Democrats are playing a game of subtraction, they really are,
and they haven't really stopped doing it. Yeah, and so
let them go. I don't want to interrupt them. I
know they don't listen. Well, they probably spy on the show.
But I don't want them to take any of our
any of our observations to heart, because I'd like to
see a stronger, bigger Republican Party.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
By the way, we haven't heard from this great organization
in a while, but Pete is at it again.

Speaker 16 (27:49):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Oh, you're ready for this. The People for the Ethical
Treatment of Animals has sent a letter to commissioners of
the Southeastern Conference in college football demanding no animal bulls
be used as mascots. Now, at Texas you have Bevo,
and at Georgia, the University of Georgia, you have Uga.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Let me tell you them, those animals are the luckiest
animals on the in the world. They get pampered. I
bet you I want to when I die, I want
to come back. And a mascot to a team like that,
they probably get pampered beyond belief.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Well, remember what happened. Was it a year ago or
two years ago? Texas was playing Georgia and Bevo was
there in his little corral and apparently Uga the bulldog
wanted to go after or get after it. There's a
little bit of a there's a little bit of a
tussle going on between those. We probably should tell Uga
Bevo is very big, big, long worn. You don't want
to mess with Bev.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
My dog Ruby. When when Ugas was on, it is
on the TV. If it's a big National championsip, Ruby, Oh,
she goes right after the TV. Ruby wants to meet.
I don't know if it's a crush because Ruby thinks
she's pretty. She doesn't know she looks mean, but or
she wants to fight.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
I don't know which either wants no more animal mascots
and that's South beefount all right, Hour number two The
Rod Greg Show is on his way to stay with
us Wingman. Wednesday edition of The Rotting Greg Show on
Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Can rass I'm
Rod Arkent.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
I'm citizen Greg Hughes. Get in the van and pass
me the copper head.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
And there. This is it, This is it. We are
down to the final days of Joe Biden. You're here
laughing over there.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
I am, I am. He's going to tell everybody how
great you have a job. He's done. Yeah, he's got
a final farewell. He's in an hour.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, he's going to address the nation in about an hour.
We hope to be able to bring you part of
what he has to say. I don't know if we
can take it all, but well, we'll bring it all.
But it raises a really interesting question, Greg, that you
talked about. You know a lot of people today are
saying good buying, good riddance to Joe Biden. They're glad
to see old Joe go right yea, And as you

(29:56):
and I were talking about this, we could spend an
hour right sitting there or talking on the on the
radio to you as you work your way home tonight,
and list all the bad things that have happened in
this country in the last four years. I think the
challenge is greg and I want to see if our
listeners can meet this challenge. Name me one good thing

(30:18):
that he has done.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
And it is a serious question. I have actually scanned.
I've googled this question, and I don't.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Want to tell what google to you.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Well, I can't find an article that's that's more well.
I found one, but other than this one article, which
I'm going to talk about a year ago, is like
the earliest, like getting ready for the campaign season, is
when they started these good things you might have missed
during the Tide administration. Would you like to share well
one one that JOHNS. Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

(30:48):
wants us to know. And this is actually more recent.
So this is why this is especially especially funny. He
has been reducing exposure to hazardous chemicals during his administration.
He has the public health improvements that they say he's made.
I would say, go to Palestine, Ohio and ask them
if they know that there's been a reduced a reduction
of exposure to hazardous chemicals. Here's one protecting vulnerable communities.

(31:14):
Why don't we go to I don't know, west part
of North Carolina. Let's go to southern Califora. Where would
these vulnerable communities be that he has protected nor so
during his administration than in past.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
So are they saying crime has dropped in those vulnerable
communities and we need to give him credit for that?
Is that is?

Speaker 17 (31:33):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (31:33):
What that means?

Speaker 2 (31:34):
You know, they've reduced environmental health.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Dis I see, I see.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Because you know the health disparities of you know, uh,
the hurricane stricken areas of the east, the wildfire destroyed
areas of southwest California, or southern California. I you know,
I don't know. I don't know that all of these
accolades have been earned shoring up abortion access, post robe,

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post the road decision.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
And that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah, And you and I have said, like when President
Trump wins, it turns out more women buy groceries, eggs,
and bread than they have abortions. So, you know, kitchen
table issues. We're going back to that. Let me see
what's another one? Historic gun safety legislation read gun control
legislation they they passed a signed into law, the first

(32:26):
major federal gun safety legislation in nearly thirty years by parisan.
Bill includes incentives for states to pass extreme risk protection orders.
Do you feel this? I mean to get you feel
it's just an amazing administration? Are you?

Speaker 1 (32:44):
We have been on a ride the last point. I
didn't realize we accomplish all of that.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Did you know that prescription drugs don't cost anything near
what they used to cost?

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Sure? Sure, I don't believe that. I've been buying drugs
and they're as expenses as they ever have been.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Access to care enrollment of the Affordable Care Act increase,
so your hair healthcare has become less expensive and more accessible.
How have you felt that one? Folks? Yeah, I gotta
tell you, I don't think everyday Americans are picking up
what they're putting down.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Who is coming up with this list?

Speaker 2 (33:17):
This is the John Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
I see, so they're saying, this is what Joe Biden
we should be proud of. These are what Joe Biden
has accomplished.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Biden's public health wins dated today, January fifteenth, twenty twenty five.
This is the only article I can find. Everything else
is from like February of twenty four back again when
he was running and they were kicking out the year,
and they said, I know you think everything's miserable, Well
guess what he's done some really special things. You're just
gonna love it, hear us out. And so that's all
I can find in the articles. But I'd love to

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hear from listeners. And I honestly mean this, if you
can think of a single solitary thing that this administration
did where they when they got on the clock, they're
leaving America or something in this country better than they
found it, I would love to know, because I, in
all honesty, I can't think of a single thing even
where the insulin shots are less. That was something that

(34:09):
actually was passed during Trump's administration and and implemented during bidens.
But he'd like they like to take credit for that
during his campaign, but that was actually started during the
Trump years.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Well, you know, there are some Democrats out there, Greg
who may feel he did it. Accomplish one thing. There
are eleven more, eleven million more people in the country
than they were when he was uh legal or illegal.
There are eleven million more people in this country.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Do they even get a Democrat back in the White House?
Hill signed the executive order of making them all voters.
They don't even have to be citizens, just voters.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah, just voters. And just think about the economy, you
know where you know, look at the prices were now paying.
I think that's a real benefit.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
For who I would like.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Have you seen the price of eggs lately? It's amazing,
you know, they're oh did you know that?

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Having Christ told me, Queen Bee told me that they're
they prohibit how many eggs? You can only buy so many?
They ration them?

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Really?

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah, where she went, where she went shopping. Maybe it's
a Costco or a SAMs cupper saying you can only
buy so many eggs. Wow, you're not allowed to buy more.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Okay, there's a good thing. We're maybe saving chickens.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Maybe we're rationing food and that's a good thing. Maybe
we're maybe we're price check fixing. I don't know what's
going on. Joe Biden is coming on tonight six o'clock.
We hope to carry some of that for you tonight
as you work your way home. Now we all could
sit and easily spend an hour talking about everything.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
He didn't do right. The challenge is finding something he
did right. So this could be a short killer. I think, actually,
upon further reflection, I don't know this qu what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
No, I don't think they can come up with anything.
It's gonna be crickets. No one's gonna be able to
call in because I really can't think of one thing.
How can we ask our listeners to call and mention
one good thing? I don't know that there is. Maybe
we don't get calls.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Shall we find out? We do have some calls?

Speaker 2 (35:58):
By the way, so you got you're at the NASA
like bored, you see it all. I'm out here in
the wilderness. I didn't know we have calls coming here.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
We do. We have some people who've got some ideas.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
For we have such a smart audience.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero eight
eight eight five seven o eight zero one zero on
your cell phone, dial pound two fifty and say, hey, Rod,
we can all list the wrong bad whatever thing you
want to call, what Joe Biden did to this country?
What's one good thing?

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yes? I am I wait with baited breaths, All right.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Let's find out. We go to Daryl. We begin with
Daryl in South Jordan tonight. Daryl, how are you welcome
to the Rod and Greg Show? Doing great? Love the show.
Thank you?

Speaker 6 (36:38):
Think of all the people he's kept out of.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Jail without bail, you know, catch and release, they kept
out jail. Yeah, I guess yeah. So generous of him,
So generous.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
All the people we kept out of jail. All right,
all right, Darryl, Let's go to Chris in Draper tonight
on the Rod and Greg Show. Chris, how are you?
Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 9 (37:03):
I'm doing wonderful, gentlemen, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
You're welcome. What are your thoughts on this?

Speaker 9 (37:09):
Well, well, I think without the Joe Biden presidency, we
may have not seen Donald trump second presidency. Ah, visibility
that Joe's regime has given to the American people. It
really helped usher in the second wave of Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
You know, there's a good point. I didn't think about that.
Without Joe Biden, we wouldn't have Donald Trump back in
the White House.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
That's a Chris from Draper. That is a brilliant observation.
That is like a true benefit. It really is because
all these leftist policies were implemented to our demise, but
it really gave that strong contrast. Thank you very much, Chris.
That is actually a benefit. I do think the country's
benefited from this. Wow, mister Trump is back in the
White House. Go back to our listeners. Let's go to Will.

(37:55):
You're up on the Ron and Greg. Show something you
can name that that is good that Biden did during
his time as president.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
You know, I had to rack my brains pretty hard,
but this one he did do something and it did
benefit me on a personal level.

Speaker 6 (38:14):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
He signed into law the Pact Act, which increased you know,
a lot of the coverage for veterans and for me.
For me, it was a difference between having a disability
rating or none, you know, so that it, you know,
like I say, it, uh, outlines some new areas that

(38:36):
if you serve there and you got such and such,
you know, a disease, then you qualify for benefits.

Speaker 14 (38:43):
And and that was that was me.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
So he did so he did do one good thing
for I wonder that was probably a bipartisan bill. I
wonder who sponsored you know, you probably do you know
who sponsored that? The Republican thing.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
I don't know I would suspect that's the case.

Speaker 6 (39:02):
You know.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
All I know is he is he.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
I've never, you know, done that much looking into it,
but I do know that he signed it into law
and I did benefit from it.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
Other than that, I can't think.

Speaker 18 (39:12):
Of a single thing.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
My life talking about a needle in a haystack. You
found it, friend, That is? That is a good something good?

Speaker 1 (39:24):
All right? Will thank you? All right, got a lot
of people weighing in on that. See, you didn't believe.
We have the greatest listeners out there, and they have
searched their brains trying to find a good thing that
Joe Biden has done for this country.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
So far, they've actually found it so good, all right.
I can't wait to hear when we come back.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
More of your calls coming up. Stay with us on
the Roddy and Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio one
O five nine k n RS. We will hear for
our esteemed leader. Joe Biden will address the nation with
his farewell address, outlining everything he has done so well
in the past four years.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
I think when we got on it six oh three,
he'll be done. If he gets atop the hour, because
I don't know what he'll be able to report. But
having said that, our audience, this the smartest audience in
all the land, has taken up the charge of identifying
at least one good thing that's happened during the Biden
administration that they can rattle off. We go back to
the phones because I am taking copious notes because I

(40:21):
like the glass half full. Let's go to Will and
Harriman Will thank you for hoding and welcome to the
Ronn and Greg Show.

Speaker 17 (40:28):
Hey, Ronnie, Greg, thanks for taking my call. Despite Joe
Biden sending a lot of foreign aid to Ukraine and Iran,
which I find disgusting, he did help our greatest ally
when they needed at most Israel, despite a lot of
pushbacks from the Left, he was still signing their packages
to get them made when they need it.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yeah, but I think he did so a little bit reluctantly,
don't you Will. I mean, they are our strongest ally,
but I don't know if he was ever fully in
favor of what Israel was trying to do.

Speaker 17 (41:00):
And I agree. I had a friend of mine say
the exact same thing. They were saying, something about, oh,
we're thirty something trillion dollars in debt. We shouldn't be
sending this amount of money Israel, and I said they
are greatest Sally. If we don't, who will.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Yeah, No, I agree.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Show.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
I just thought that he didn't want to go into Rafa,
didn't want to met Ya to go in there, and
he pushed back. But I think he was right. He did,
he was caught, but he is in the crossfire of
that issue, and he did not abandon Israel, so I
would put I would chock that up as a good thing.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
All right, Let's look at the positive accomplishments of one
Joe Biden as he addresses the nation tonight his farewell speech.
Let's go back to David in Salt Lake. David, how
are you welcome to the rodin Greg Joe, good, thanks
for having me. You're welcome. Go ahead.

Speaker 20 (41:46):
Yeah, I'd say one good.

Speaker 6 (41:49):
Thing that I goted.

Speaker 21 (41:50):
I've probably lost about twenty pounds, but that's more so
just because I can't afford the food.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
So that's a good thing, isn't it, David?

Speaker 18 (42:02):
I would say so.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
I think when Trump wins, the first thing I'm going
to do is eat a full meal.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Good Man, good, enjoy it.

Speaker 16 (42:09):
Man.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Biden's trying to make America healthy. Aim I starving us South.
That's not gonna work. You do that the prisoners like
in wars or something that's no good.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
David, go enjoy that meal.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
Man.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
I'm putting that in a positive column. I just think
you're being an optimist, David. But thank you for the contribution.
I get what you're saying. I'm picking up you're putting down.
Let's go to Kevin and Magna. That's been waiting.

Speaker 18 (42:29):
Kevin.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show. One good thing
that you've observed during this Biden administration.

Speaker 4 (42:37):
Honestly, the very best thing Joe Biden did was agreed
to debate Donald Trump last summer, ah, because that was
able to wake people up to how much they'd been
like to about his mental state, about the Democratic Party
in general, and really got a lot of people to
wake up and start asking questions like how did how

(43:00):
did we let this happen? How did we get this far?
And can we even trust these people ever again? So
that to me was his greatest thing he ever did,
was getting people to wake up.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
That's a good point. I even think about that. Yeah,
But his decision to debate Trump exposed him and remember
there were strings attached. I think they thought they were
gambling there. They thought they were going to game it
up so much that that Trump would refuse to do it.
You can only do it on CNN, MSNBC. Uh, you
can't have an audience. They put so many restrictions, and
then he called their bluff and voila. You know, after

(43:33):
the after after Trump said, hey, all to beat you
anywhere anytime. I don't care about the restrictions. I wonder
if there were people in the Biden campaign who said, uh, now,
what what do we do now? Why they tried to
make it so difficult and then he agreed to do it.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
I know, and you know a lot of people have
said that that is just a that's just too gamed up.
I'm not going to do it. But he did did it,
and I'm glad he did. All Right, good to point
that out. Let's go to Roy. Uh, let's go to
Roy and talk with Dane tonight here on the rod
In Greg Show. Hi, Dane, how are you good? Good?

Speaker 15 (44:06):
Thanks for having me? Hey, Rod, are you worried that
I'm going to call you out again?

Speaker 1 (44:12):
I remember Dane bared, Oh, go ahead, get after.

Speaker 15 (44:16):
It won't say anything. I won't say anything I do,
but I do. I have a comment that's a little
like the guy from Christ from Harriman I think was
the name of talked about the good things that we
we got Donald Trump back. If I could elaborate on this.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Yes, that's right. Chris Draper pointed out that that we
might not have got Donald Trump back if we didn't
see how bad it was with with with Biden. Yes,
do elaborate.

Speaker 15 (44:43):
So so my feeling is that you remember when Donald
Trump and Biden were debating in the twenty twenty elections,
and and and the stigma kind of middle ground conservatives
didn't like the meanness of Donald Trump, the bad tweets,
the childishness. Mm hm, yes, those who saw that for

(45:06):
what it was but said, hey, but it could be
so much worse than that if we vote for the
wrong guy. Now, the middle ground people have been solidified
because they've gotten to see it firsthand. And now who
knows how much longer we'll get those people to vote,
you know, the same way. But I think it moved

(45:27):
those people, and that's what moved the needle could be thought.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Good Dane, because Hughes loves this. If you would like
to call me off for something. Out do it now
because he will relish this for the rest of the week.

Speaker 15 (45:41):
Oh, I'm just saying, you know, I've had money on
the table for this pickleball. I think you're a little
bit chicken scared.

Speaker 16 (45:51):
Brother.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
I've told you I knew it.

Speaker 15 (45:53):
I knew its running scared.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yes, he talked such a big game too. I'm always
hearing about all his pickleball prowess. And every time you call.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
What have what have I heard? What have I said
to you of late? You asked me all the time
when I tell you I went and played pickle ball,
and no I don't, I says, I said, I suck
at this game, and I'm getting tired of losing, Dane.
So if you'll give me, you know, if you give
me a five point lead, I may play. Listen to him, Okay, yeah,

(46:26):
we go to twenty one. No, we're going to eleven.
That's the way we do it, all right, Dane. Thank
you appreciate your phocal calling me on on pickleball. And
I told you for the last several weeks, every time
I play, and the guys at the pickles up there
at k will they know what they know I suck.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
He walks into an open court, come on, come on,
and he takes him on.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
All yours such a long about all the time. You
are such a liar. All right, more of your calls
and comments. We're looking for the one great thing that
Joe Biden did during his four years no White House.
A lot of our great listeners are coming up with
something we didn't think about. They're really really good. All right,
Mary coming up right here on Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine, Kate and are breaking news right now.

Speaker 6 (47:07):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Uh? So? Uh should I unveil my new name?

Speaker 1 (47:11):
If it's up to you, we would like to have
the Senator on the show.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Center Jean Pierre Curtis has taken to X to announce
that he is while he has continues to remind us
that he takes his role in the Center seriously and
as the Constitution it requires to advise and consent. He
has spent a significant time with President Trump's nominees, including
Defense Secretary pick Pete Haig Seth. He's met with him

(47:38):
and he has concluded there's a lot to be said,
but he's concluded that he can, in fact support mister
haig Seth for the show. Some of his past gives
him serious pause, but he's willing to overlook that and
believes that there does need to be a change in
the Department of Defense. So he will be supporting him.
And that's what we want. We want support for the

(47:58):
president's nominee. So we've for Pete aig Seth will applaud
a good vote when they come.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
All right, we're taking your calls right now here. In
about a half hour, Joe Biden will address the nation.
It will be his final address to the nation in
which he will outline the good things that he has
done for America during his time in the White House. Now,
you could come up with a very, very long list
of things that he did to hurt the country, but

(48:24):
I think as a real challenge to find things that
he did well or that he helped the country get better.
And we will get your phone calls.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
So let's go to the phones right now. Let's go
to Jim in Salt Lake City. Jim, thank you for
holding and let's say you, sir, about Joe Biden and
his accomplishments in this last administration.

Speaker 6 (48:43):
Okay, this is actually the best one. He saved Donald.
He saved Donald Trump from his third impeachment. At Donald
Trump won, he would have been impeached again, and this time,
with the Senate being in Democrat hands, he would have

(49:03):
been removed from office. So he also saved us from
Mike Pence being the president and running this next time.
And he also gave us Trump again stronger than ever
with with a Republican counsel representative and Republican Senate where

(49:29):
Trump can really go to town. He has given us
so much that way.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
No third impeachment, no President Pence, no another term. I
note now we've got Jadie Vance's vice president. And yet
if I had an applause button right now, I'd hit
it for Jim right now, I just hit the applause.
That's a win win.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
When sure is all right, let's go back to the
phones here in Salt Lake City. We're talking with Dan
tonight here on the Riding Great Show. Hey Dan, how
are you?

Speaker 17 (50:00):
Oh great?

Speaker 18 (50:02):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (50:02):
Uh?

Speaker 16 (50:03):
I really had to put my thinking cap on. And
then once it started, you know going, I just I
thunk up lots of things. The first thing is this,
he didn't die.

Speaker 17 (50:13):
He saved this.

Speaker 16 (50:14):
From a presidential a hero's funeral. And that would have
been just unbearable. Well, I know see that.

Speaker 18 (50:28):
There in lies.

Speaker 16 (50:28):
There's the second one. Once it started, you know, coming,
you know, from my head, it.

Speaker 18 (50:32):
Was like a flood of ideas.

Speaker 16 (50:33):
Anyway, the second one was due to the fact that
he didn't die. He did save us from Kamala. And
I really believe this. I think when they set Joe
up for the fall, I think they also set camp
set the Kamala up because they really doubted that she
could beat Trump. But if she won somehow, then that's okay.

(50:56):
But if she lost, she's dead as far as her
pullet futures concerned.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
Maybe she you know, she.

Speaker 16 (51:02):
Gets to go to California, but you know whatever, Yeah,
she can't screw that up any worse than it already is.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
So so anyway, yeah, so let me summarize it. Yeah,
let me summarize this.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Dan.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
So, he did a good thing by staying alive.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
That I agree, I do. I think that is a
very good thing.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
He did a good thing by dropping out of the race,
giving us the chance to see how bad Kamala is
she was.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Yeah, you would have got a hero if he'd have
passed away. You're right, he would have been. He had
have been, like they were trying to say, the next
George Washington, he'd had a hero's farewell, we'd had Kamala's present.
That would have been a nightmare. But now that she's
actually lost after they kicked him out, she's done and
we don't have to deal with her again. I agree.
I love those Uh that is, those are upsides, those

(51:46):
are all positives.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Love it.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Let's go to Angel and Salt Lake City. Angel, thank
you for holding. Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 22 (51:54):
Thank you both broad and citizen jees. I enjoy your show.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Thank you.

Speaker 22 (51:59):
I pretty much said the same thing that I've been
praying every day since Biden was elcted, that he would
stay alive in sparausaul.

Speaker 18 (52:08):
I.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
You know what, and you were one hundred percent right.
I wasn't even thinking in these terms. But as vacant
as he may have been, Uh, the alternative of having
a president at Kamala Harris, it's just things would have
you talk about being in a hole and keep digging
that we would have been it had been even worse.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
The mirror acceleration, the mere thought of her being improved
once she was.

Speaker 22 (52:30):
In we never would have got her out, and we're
very happy she got her trash kicked.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
You know, you are so great. You have this very sweet,
innocent voice, and then you just said she got her
trash kicked.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
You just love it. I love the VIM and Vigor.
I love it.

Speaker 22 (52:47):
Well good, I'm excited. I'm ready for the inauguration. I
feel tremendous.

Speaker 6 (52:51):
Hope.

Speaker 22 (52:51):
I guess I can put away the Knights that have
been driving around with my car.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
You sure can't. Angel, Thank you. Let's go to Doug
and sarahcuse tonight here on the Rod Great Show. Hey Doug,
how are you?

Speaker 17 (53:03):
I'm well?

Speaker 16 (53:03):
Thank you.

Speaker 20 (53:05):
The thing that Biden has done, socialism and our constitution
are diametrically opposed.

Speaker 6 (53:12):
He's been about.

Speaker 20 (53:13):
Socialist so he's proven that socialism are liars.

Speaker 6 (53:16):
Socialists are liars.

Speaker 20 (53:18):
He's a liar because he swore an oath to the Constitution,
and yet he's done.

Speaker 6 (53:22):
Nothing to uphold the Constitution.

Speaker 20 (53:24):
So, in the first place, he's shown us that socialism
socialists are liars.

Speaker 6 (53:29):
And along that line.

Speaker 20 (53:31):
Socialism, what he has promoted, socialism is the socialism. Whatever
they do, nothing trumpts their agenda. They will do anything
to promote their agenda. And so people are seeing now
that socialism is a lie, that socialists are liars. And

(53:51):
I'm thinking that that's one great thing that he has done,
because socialism is so very, very evil.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Yeah, he certainly exposed it and we understand and what
it is now, and I think that's what the American
people rejected last November. All Right, Droe, Scott, David, Eric,
all of you hang on to the line. We'll get
to your phone calls. We're looking for the positive aspects
of Joe Biden's presidency here on the Rod and Greg
Show and Utah Talk Radio one oh five nine. Ky smart, Yeah,

(54:18):
we're really really deep. Well you say we have the smartest,
brightest audience in all over adios.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
I totally was at a loss of these or I'm right,
you didn't think we'd get any phone calls. I thought
it was a show killer. I didn't think anyone could
even think of a single thing to even call. We've
had such great comments and qualities.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
More of your calls and comments coming up here on
the Rodd and Greg Show.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
I'm citizen Greg Hughes.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
And I'm roder Urkatt. In just a few minutes, we'll
head to the White House and hear the farewell address
by President Joe Biden.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Look, I mean to tell you that guy's not going
to do himself any justice. If he had our listeners
and our callers give his final farewell, that people might
applaud his departure, they would say wow that then, now
that was a benefit absent our callers, he's in the chance.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Let me tell you what the real challenge is finding
something good that Joe Biden has done. And our listeners
have come up with some really good ideas. So let's
go back to the phone.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Yeah, I swear none of what he's going to say,
the President is going to say, he's going to match
our callers. Let's go to Drew and Syracuse. Drew, thank
you for holding and welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 21 (55:22):
Oh thanks, Hey. He brought to the forefront the problem
with aging people in the United States and you know,
our aging population, especially politicians in Washington. And he made
us more aware of the horrors of diseases with Alzheimer's

(55:44):
and part Alzheimer's and dementia.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Now, Drew, Drew, you wouldn't be talking about aging talk
show host, would you.

Speaker 21 (55:55):
Well, you're in there, Roger, I.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Heard it, I got it, and I picked up what
you're putting down. Brother Drew.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
I've got your name in number. You'll never be on
the show.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
That's got the hotline. Yeah, from here on out.

Speaker 5 (56:10):
But Rod, I'm there with you.

Speaker 21 (56:12):
I'm a I'm an aging bureaucrat. No, that's another thing
Biden did. That's positive. He made me wish I could retire.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
All right, thank you, Let's go back to the phones.
Let's talk with Scott in Teuila tonight here on the
Rodden Greg Show. Scott, how are you? Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 22 (56:30):
Yeah, that previous collar kind of stoke my thunder.

Speaker 11 (56:34):
I was.

Speaker 17 (56:35):
I was thinking how he brought attention to Parkinson's disease
and also elderly abuse, because he sure shows well people.

Speaker 5 (56:44):
Can abuse the elderly people they they have a chance to.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Yeah, well, that's that is a positive. He's made aware
of us of the aging process, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
And Scott, agism and public service it is actually he's
brought it to the forefront. You're looking at me when
you're talking about agis agism and public service. We got
a lot of it too. It's just actually cascaded from there.
Let's go to Eric in Salt Lake City. Eric, welcome
to the Rotting Greg Show.

Speaker 18 (57:10):
Hey, guys, so I got to say he gave us
such a bad economy that I got a good enough
deal on my Space. I was able to open Huckleberry Grill,
which means all those people get to eat that huckleberry
pork tenderloin.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
And let me tell you what. Eric is a good
friend of the show, and we love Huckleberry Grill.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Yeah, high, high, high praise from the Rotting Greg Show. Eric,
You're absolutely right. You've how's it going over there? Doing
well because of food is delicious good.

Speaker 18 (57:38):
It's been a great month.

Speaker 23 (57:40):
We got a little more advertising going with you guys
this month, and and you got we definitely you have
the best listeners on the planet. They come in and
tell me all the time that they love you guys,
and we need to get you back out here for
dinner again.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Yeah, we're coming.

Speaker 6 (57:53):
Eric.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Tell people where you're located, because you have delicious food.
I love the pork tenderloin with a huckleberry sauce. There's
nothing better than that. But where you located, Jill, We'll
give you some free advertising.

Speaker 18 (58:05):
Right now, just south of the Big Costco in Salt Lake.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Yeah, it's called Huckleberry Grill. Eric's a big supporter of
the show, and they do make They even do funeral potatoes.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
I know, it's so good and they are so good.
Got I think it's a Wago beef. It's very rare
to get if you want it yourself a treat.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Yeah, yeah, all right, let's go to David and Copper Hills. David,
how are you welcome to the Roden Gregg Show.

Speaker 21 (58:32):
Great, God, just uh, there's a warm heaven. He continues
on the earth, and thank God for fighting awakening more
people to the adversaries.

Speaker 6 (58:45):
Ways.

Speaker 5 (58:46):
Secondly, also also.

Speaker 9 (58:51):
Having given Tromp four more years to plan and be strengthened.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Yeah, I totally agree. I think his second term will
be so much stronger, even especially with that interim disaster
that we've just lived through. I think it makes him
even more prepared and people appreciate President Trump even more
as he enters his second term. Let's go now, thank
you for the call. Let's go to Cody and Santaquin. Cody,
welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 5 (59:21):
Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 18 (59:22):
So I know that everyone's trying to be funny and
point out things that Joe Biden did that are really
not that good.

Speaker 6 (59:28):
But I got to tell you, there's been a.

Speaker 19 (59:29):
Lot of investigations on all the crime network and all
the horrible things that he's alleged to do, and he
just saved all those investigators all that time.

Speaker 6 (59:38):
And money by pointing out his entire crime network on
a pardon list.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Yeah, you're actually right. Yeah, Oh, he's got it right.
It's true. He's put them all in there, which is
a mission. I mean, you wouldn't have them there for
any other reason. And I think his office said they're
not putting anyone on there that didn't ask or want
to be on. So really there you go. Yeah, wow, yeah,
well good one.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
I like, like I said, like you love to say, Greg,
and I totally agree with you. We have the smartest,
brightest audience out there, and they actually did find a
little bit of silver lining in the cloud.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
I mean, I honestly, this is the question I thought.
At first, I thought, oh, this will be intriguing, and
I thought, what am I saying? There is not a change?

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Well you brought that up. That's a good topic. Let's
ask people.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
I'm like, you know what, it's gonna be crickets out there.
I can't think of one thing. Every one of these
have been good. They might have been unintended consequences, but
they have been all probably all upside, every single one
of them.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Yeah, been good. All right, We're going to take a break,
get you caught up on the news, and then we'll
join in progress Joe Biden's address to the nation, his
farewell address, in which he'll outline all of the wonderful
accomplishments he did. This is four years in the White House.
Of course, the inauguration is all coming up on Monday.
It will be a great day for America and we
certainly are looking forward to that. But up next we'll

(01:00:53):
get a news update with Abbey portion of Joe Biden's
farewell address, and then more to come. Our number three
on the Wingman wins the addition of the Rotting Great
Show Stay with US. President Joe Biden just started delivering
his farewell speech from the White House. Let's listen.

Speaker 24 (01:01:12):
In of ancestors native to this land. Ancestors came by force.
A nation of immigrants came to build a better life,
a nation holding the torts the most powerful idea ever
in the history of the world, that all of us,
all of us, are created equal, that all of us

(01:01:34):
deserved to be treated with dignity, justice and fairness. That
democracy must defend and be defined and be imposed moved
in every way possible, our rights, our freedoms, our dreams.
But we know the idea of America, our institution, our people,

(01:01:58):
our values that uphold it are constantly being tested, ongoing
debates about power and the exercise of power. But whether
we lead by the example of our power or the
power of our example, whether we show the courage to
stand up to the abuse of power or we yield
to it. After fifty years, at the center of all

(01:02:21):
of this, I know that believing in the idea of
America means respecting the Institution as govern a free society.
The Presidency, the Congress, the courts, are free and independent press,
institutions that are rooted. They just might not reflect the

(01:02:42):
timeless words, but they they echo the words of the
Decoration of Independence. We hold these truths to be self evident,
rooted in the timeless words of the Constitution, We the people,
our system of powers, check and balances. It may not

(01:03:03):
be perfect, but it's maintained our democracy for nearly two
one hundred and fifty years, longer than any other nation
in history that's ever tried such a bold experiment. In
the past four years, our democracy is how strong and
every day I've kept my commitment to be president for
all Americans through one of the toughest periods in our

(01:03:26):
nation's history. I've had a great partner and Vice President,
Kamala Harris, spend the honor of my life to see
the resilience of a sential workers getting us through once
in a century pandemic, the heroism of service members and
first responders keeping us safe. The determination of advocates standing

(01:03:47):
out for our rights and our freedoms instead of losing
their jobs to an economic crisis that we inherited. Millions
of Americans now have the dignity of work, Millions of
o spreneurs and companies creating new businesses and industries, hiring
American workers using American products. Together, we've launched a new

(01:04:10):
era of American possibilities, one of the greatest modernizations of
infrastructure in our entire history. From new roads, bridges, clean water,
affordable high speed internet for every American, we invented a
semiconductor smaller than the tip of my little finger, and
now is bringing those chip factories and those jobs back

(01:04:33):
to America where they belong, creating thousands of jobs, finally
giving Medicare the power to negotiate lower prescription drug prices
from many of seniors, and finally doing something to protect
our children and our families by passing the most significant
gun safety law in thirty years and bringing violent crime

(01:04:56):
to a fifty year low, meeting our sacred obligation over
one million veterors so far we're exposed to toxic materials
and to their families, providing medical care and education benefits
and more for their families. You know, it will take
time to feel the full impact of all we've done together,

(01:05:19):
but the seeds are planted and they'll grow and they'll
bloom for decades to come. At home, we've created nearly
seventeen million new jobs, more than any other single administration
a single term. More people have health care than ever before,
and overseas we strengthen NATO. Ukraine is still free, and

(01:05:41):
we've pulled ahead of our competition with China and so
much more. I'm so proud of how much we've accomplished
together for the American people, and I wish the inncome
in administration's success because I want American succeed. That's why
I have held my duty to ensure a peaceful and
orderly transition of power, to ensure we lean by the

(01:06:05):
power of our example. I have no doubt that America
is in a position to continue to succeed. That's why
my farewell addressed to I want to warran the country.
Some things that give me great concern. This is a
dangerous concert and that's the dangerous conversation of power in
the hands of a very few, ultrawealthy people, the dangerous

(01:06:28):
consequences if their abuse of power is left unchecked. Today,
an oligarchy is taking shape in America of extreme wealth,
power and influence that literally threatens our entire democracy, our
basic rights and freedoms, and a fair shot for everyone
to get ahead. We see the consequences all across America,

(01:06:52):
and we've seen it before more than a century ago,
with the American people stood up to the Robert barons
back then and busted the trusts. They didn't punish the wealthy,
just made the wealthy play by the rules. Everybody else
had to workers want rights to earn their fair share

(01:07:14):
and know they were dealt into the deal and helped
put us on a path to building the largest middle class,
the most prosperous century any nation in the world has
ever seen. We've got to do that again in the
last four years. That is exactly what we've done. People
should be able to make as much as they can,

(01:07:34):
but pay play by the same rules, pay their fair
share of taxes. So much is a stake right now.
The existential threat of climate change has never been clear.
Just look across the country from California to North Carolina.
That's why I signed the most significant climate and clean

(01:07:56):
energy law ever ever in the history of the world,
and the rest of the world trying to model it.
Now it's working, creating jobs and industries of the future.
Now we prove that we don't have to choose between
protecting the environment and growing economy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
We're doing both.

Speaker 24 (01:08:15):
The powerful forces want to wield their unchecked influence to
eliminate the steps we've taken to tackle the crimate crisis
to serve their own interest for power and profit. We
must not be bullied. The sacrifice in the future, the
future of our children and Our grandchildren must keep pushing
forward and push faster. There's no time to waste. Souls

(01:08:41):
are clear of the American leadership and technology as an unparalleled,
a no unparalleled source of innovation that can transform lives.
We see the same dangers the concentration of technology, power
and wealth. Its farewell addressed. President Eyeshower spoke of the
dangers of the military industrial complex. He warned us then

(01:09:05):
about my quote the potential for the disastrous rise of
misplaced power, and to quote, six days, six decades later,
I'm equally concerned about the potential rise of a tech
industrial complex. It composed real dangers for our country as well.

(01:09:26):
Americans are being buried under an avalanche of misinformation and disinformation,
enabling the abusive power. The free press is crumbling, others
are disappearing. Social media is giving up on fact checking.
The truth is smothered by lies told for power and

(01:09:47):
for profit. We must hold the social platform and accountable
to protect our children, our families in a very democracy
from the abusive power. Meanwhile, artificial intelligence is the most
consequential technology of our time, perhaps of all time. Nothing

(01:10:08):
offers more profound possibilities and risks for our economy and
our security, our society for humanity. Artificial intelligence even has
the potential to help us answer might call and cancer
as we know it. But unless safeguards are in place,
AI could spawn new threats to our rights, our way

(01:10:31):
of life, to our privacy, how we work, and how
we protect our nation. We must make sure AI is
safe and trustworthy and good for all humankind. In the
age of AI, it's more important than ever that the
people must cover and as the land of liberty, America,

(01:10:53):
not China, must lead the world and the development of AI.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
You know in the ears ahead to help to be.

Speaker 24 (01:11:03):
Be up to the President, the President of the City,
the Congress, the courts, the free press, and the American people.
To confront these powerful forces. We must reform the tax code,
not by giving the biggest tax custom billionaires, but by
making them begin to pay their fair share. We need
to get dark money. That's that hidden funding behind too

(01:11:24):
many campaigns contributions. We need to get it out of
our politics. We need an act, an eighteen year time limit,
term limit time in term for the strongest ethnics Astrong's
that they've reformed. For a Supreme Court, we need to
ban members of Congress from tradee stock while they're in
the Congress. We need to amend the Constitution to make

(01:11:47):
clear that no president, no president's immune from crimes that
he or she commits while in office. President's power is
not limit it's not absolute and should then a democracy.
There's another danger. That's the concentration of power and wealth.

(01:12:07):
It erodes a sense of unity and common purpose. It
causes distrust and division. Participating in our democracy becomes exhausting
and even disillusioning, and people don't feel like they have
a fair shot. We have to stay engaged in the process.
I know it's frustrating. A fair shot is what makes

(01:12:30):
America America. Everyone's entitled to a fair shot, not a guarantee,
just a fair shot, an even playing field, going as
far as your hard work and talent can take you.
We can never lose that essential truth in man who
we are. I've always believed, and I've told other world leaders,

(01:12:50):
American be defined by one word possibilities. Only in America
do we believe anything as possible. Like a kid with
the stutter from modest beginning in Grant, Pennsylvania and claimont
Ellaer sitting behind this desk in the oval office as
President of the United States. That's the magic of America.

(01:13:14):
It's all around us. Upstairs in the residence of the
White House, I've walked by a painting of a Statue
of Liberty. I don't know how many times. In the
painting there's several workers climbing on the outstretched arm of
the statue that holds the torch. It reminds me every
day I pass it of the story and soul of

(01:13:37):
our nation and the power of the American people. There's
a story of a veteran. This is a veteran, the
son of an immigrant, whose job was to climb that
torch and polish the amber panes so rays of light
could reach out as far as possible. He was known
as the Keeper of the Flame. He once said of

(01:13:59):
the Statue of Liberty. Quote speaks a silent, universal language,
one of hope that anyone who seeks and speaks freedom
can understand. Yes, we sway back and forth to withstand
the fury of the storm, to stand and test of time.
A constant struggle, constant struggle, a short distance between peril

(01:14:24):
and possibility for what I believe is the America of
our dreams. It's always closer than we think. It's up
to us to make our dreams come true. Let me
close by stating my gratitude to so many people, So
the members of my administration as well as public service

(01:14:45):
and first responders across the country and around the world.
Thank you for stepping up to serve to our service
members and their families. It's been the highest honor of
my life to lead you as commander in chief. And
of course to Kamala and our incredible partner, a historic

(01:15:05):
Vice President. She and Douga had become like family, and
to me, family's everything. My deepest appreciation our amazing first
Lady is with me and the Ovals today for our
entire family. You're the love of my life and the
life's of my love. My eternal thanks to you and

(01:15:28):
the American people. After fifty years of public service, I
give you my word. I still believe in the idea
for which this nation stands, nation where the strengths of
her institutions and the character of our people matter and
must endure. Now it's your turn to stand guard. May

(01:15:51):
you all be the keeper of the flame. May you
keep the face I love America, You love it too.
God bless you all. May God protect her truth. Thank
you for this great.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Honor that is Joe Biden. His farewell addressed to the
nation tonight from the Oval Office inside the White House,
of course, talking to America, outlining a few of his accomplishments.
But I think in a way almost warning America about
what lies ahead. Greg, that's what I read it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
You know, the consternation of power is the GOP control
of the House Center. No, that's a fearful concentration of power,
oligarchy of power too. He talks about I guess I
think he's talking about Elon Musk, but I guess Bezos, Soros,
his son alexand Zuckerberg Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, they were never
a problem. Talked about tech and how bad it is

(01:16:41):
or how scary it can be. I think he's talking
about X. But he certainly didn't mind when Twitter was
censoring everyone as well as Meta was. Zuckerberg has admitted
that the Biden administration would actually call, scream and swear
at them to take things off the off of their platform.
So yeah, there's that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
So well, that's his farewell address. Very typical for presidents
to do that after serving their term. Joe Biden serving
only one term, bounding out what back in July, right
after I think it was right after the Republican National Convention,
Kamala Harris stepping in and losing and losing badly to
Donald Trump, a big win on both the electoral College

(01:17:21):
and also in the popular vote. Donald Trump will assume
office come Monday at noon, Monday, East Coast time. All right, mare,
Coming up on the Roden Greg Show in Utah's Talk
Radio one O five to nine kN Rs. Breig Greg
and I were listening to some of the comments on
Fox News about Joe Biden's farewell address to the nation,
and Dania Perino just ripped, well they all did, they

(01:17:45):
really all did?

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
Yeah? Yeah, Well, you know, look, you could argue that
a president's final farewell address, you should there should be
some decorum, You should probably find something good, as we've
done in the last hour, find us something good that
you think he did. And our callers did a far
better job than this farewell speech ever did. But I
think I was in my criticism of the speech. I
think I was soft shooting it compared to what I

(01:18:07):
just heard on Fox News. Again, it's just, you know,
you can't call for unity and try to inspire all
this patriotism with the statue liberty and everything else, and
then say that you're worried about oligarch. She just gave
the Medal of Honor to George Soross.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
I thought that was one of the key points here.
He is going after dark money and all the guards
and what did Joe Biden just do with the Medal
of Freedom give it to George Sorows.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Yeah, he's just talking Republicans. He just doesn't like the
concentration of power and all the problems. He's just pointing
straight at President Trump and his allyes. That's it best
best coming from Perino on all of this. She said,
I think the speech writers have left the building and
the speech is written by Ai Chat.

Speaker 6 (01:18:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
I would agree.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
It's shocking the reelective logic that was shared tonight. It
was it's just not consistent across the board to anything
that they did as an administration.

Speaker 18 (01:18:59):
But there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
I think that's the last of it, though, right, we
don't have to hear that anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Not anymore, all right more, coming up on the Rod
and Greg Show, we'll talk about cutting social security taxes
here in the state of Utah couldn't happen up on
the hill this year. We'll talk about the state lawmakers
who's raising questions about that. That's coming up on the
Rod and Gregg Show. Don't forget to join us on
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(01:19:24):
On the show, we'll do some crazy things. I think
we may have a crazy thing scheduled for tomorrow. We
aren't going to tell them what it is now, but
that could happen tomorrow. So you want to sign up tonight?

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
Yeah, I want to look. So we're at three hundred
and seventy eight followers. We got to get over four hundred, right,
I mean we got to get going. Fud, what's the number?
What are the kids saying? Is the legit?

Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
When do you become legit on this thing?

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
Ten million?

Speaker 18 (01:19:45):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
Come on, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
I really don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Well, I want to get higher than three seventy eight.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
Yeah, we'll get there. We'll get there, all right. Utah
lawmakers head to Capitol Hill. You've been up there. Starting
to get very busy up on Utah's Capitol Hill. They'll
be in sessions, start being on Tuesday. Now, one of
the issues that the governor has brought up is a
cutting the taxes on Social Security. Is going to be
interesting to see how all this plays out. Joining us
on our Newsmaker line right now in State's under Dan McKay,

(01:20:12):
who has some questions about this. Senator McKay, thanks for
joining us. What's your take on this?

Speaker 14 (01:20:18):
Every year, AARP sends out an email or or a
mailer to you know, people over the age of sixty
five and say, Utah is taxing your Social Security.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
And that email, that letter goes out.

Speaker 14 (01:20:35):
Everybody then starts lighting up their congress person or their
you know, representative or senator saying why are you taxing
my Social Security? And the interesting thing it is, over
the age of sixty five, voter turnout is something like
ninety percent.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
Under the age of.

Speaker 14 (01:20:48):
Sixty five, it's closer to forty to fifty percent, right,
And so your voters, your voter base is really you
know people the age over age of sixty try so
it is it's politically popular to do away with and
not have to deal with the emails or the letters
related to AARP. Okay, but realize Utah already exempts social

(01:21:12):
Security income for joint filers at seventy five thousand dollars.
So anybody making seventy five thousand dollars in joint income
is already exempted from Social Security. Okay, Now I couple
that with realize our police and fire and our teachers,
their average income is slightly around is around sixty five
thousand is the average salary. And so if I exempt

(01:21:37):
the rest of Social Security, it's about one hundred and
forty three million dollar bill. But if I exempt the
rest of Social Security, it means I've got to make
teachers and firemen and policemen pay a higher rate so
that the folks on Social Security can collect or not
have to pay. One and two, if you look at

(01:21:59):
wealth generations, the generation over the age of sixty five
is wealthier than it has ever been in US history.
And as when you contrast that to people under the
age of sixty five, wealth generation or wealth ownership is
down by a third. So while those over the age

(01:22:22):
of sixty five in the last ten years have increased
their wealth and networth versus those under the age of
sixty five are losing value. So I look at those
two things and I'm like, I'm not sure it's the
right thing to do to exempt tax on Social Security.
And I know that by saying this, I'm going to
get some nasty emails.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
What I love about you, Senator McKay is that you
are willing to have difficult conversations. And I hear what
you're saying, and I get it. But let me ask
you this. If you have a surplus this year and
you're looking at maybe overall tax relief, couldn't some of
that surplus be attributed to this portion of tax collection

(01:23:02):
and be for the Social Security so that you wouldn't
have to necessarily raise the revenue you're getting from other
other taxing sources. But if you have a surplus of
taxes coming in, couldn't you couldn't you put it into
this tax cut without raising the taxes of others, just
having a less less of a tax cut for other Utahns.

Speaker 16 (01:23:23):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (01:23:23):
Absolutely, I mean, you know we have always subscribed to
the tax policy of lower rate, broader base.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Did you learn from me? I think you learned that
from me, didn't you. Didn't I teach you.

Speaker 14 (01:23:34):
That it is a republican It is a proper republican
core and so realize, exempting social Security is narrowing the base, right,
and when you narrow, you narrow the base for one group.
Even if I exempt social Security, it means I have
to leave the other I can't give any I can't
give tax relief to that other group by the amount

(01:23:56):
I've created for social Security.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
I love and I want Rod to let me tell you,
I want Miller. I don't want to conflicted on this issue.
You're just talking. You're just robbing this man right now.
You're like you got a ski mask and a gun
in your hand when you talk this way, Senator bit So,
let me just say this though, I I I absolutely
I'm lowered, you know, broad on the base, lower the

(01:24:19):
rate I am. There. The one thing I just want
to ask you, and I'm not debating you, I just
want you to just if you've thought about this, social
Security is supposed to be on income you've already earned.
Isn't it a double taxation to tax social Security? If
you've been paying into this puppy your whole life and
now you're getting taxed on it. Hasn't a tax man
visited you twice on this thing? Now you're a yeah, God,

(01:24:42):
you don't have to worry about that.

Speaker 14 (01:24:44):
Well, you know, and based on you know, taking these
political popular positions, I probably won't make it to sixty five.
But that being said, one thing you have to realize
is when an employee pays their Social Security contribution, which
is fifty percent of the content of the of the benefit.

Speaker 13 (01:25:01):
UH.

Speaker 14 (01:25:02):
That's that fifty percent is tax right, you know, comes
out post tax the UH. But the employer contribution comes
out pre tax, and the employer contribution is fifty percent,
and so it's really not a pure you know, there's
not a double taxation, so to speak, because a large
portion of the benefit that comes as a result of

(01:25:23):
the employer benefit UH or the employer contribution. So it's
not perfect like a roth ira would be, so that
you get the same benefits.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
If that makes sense. Yeah, that does make sense. Cender.
Thank you first of all for recognizing my age, and
then I'll collecting ghost security. But let me ask you this.
Let me ask you this, Senator. I guess the key
question Rod. You know, Rod, you don't look at day
over seventy. Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 15 (01:25:46):
I'll remember that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
I'm that I like go back to the original question.
Can we afford it. I mean, I don't know what
the budget situation looks like for the state, what the
revenue situation looks like for the state this year. Can
we afford a cut like this?

Speaker 14 (01:26:02):
We have sent a signed two hundred million dollars for
tax cuts, and just now it's a question of to
Greg's point, and you know, Speaker made this point long ago.
Politics is the art of the possible, right, so you
know what's possible. We can certainly find a hybrid. I
feel like seventy five thousand dollars is a pretty good

(01:26:23):
number for everybody. So I'm kind of holding firm at
that spot right now. But you know, look, there's one
hundred and three lawmakers and there's one governor up there
that made three with me, And at that point I
got to decide is just the most important hill to
die on? And I'm going to think of you, Rod
when I make that thank you.

Speaker 15 (01:26:42):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
I sit here not knowing if that helps her hurt
this cause. I just don't even know if that where
that goes when you say that, Senator, but you are
I want our listeners to know you are the Senate
Chair of the Tax and Right Revenue and Tax commission
so or committee. So you're say, is a bit weighted
in this upcoming session. So a lot to think about.

(01:27:04):
And I knew that those questions that you would have
substant of answers for him. So thank you for walking
us through that. And I don't willy, I'm on the
fence of that rod getting the tax cut too.

Speaker 21 (01:27:15):
I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
I just don't know.

Speaker 14 (01:27:18):
Most of the time, good tax policy is not popular.
And that's the hard part about being over tax right.
I mean, there's a reason why Matthew for the most part, was.

Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
You know, despised in the New Testament.

Speaker 14 (01:27:31):
You're the tax collector, right, But at the end of
the day, good tax policy means we do everything we
can to keep that rate low for everybody so that
everybody's contributing in a fair and equal amount.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
States under Dan McKay joining us on our Newsmaker line
talking about a possible cut in Social Security taxes up
on the Hill this year. The governor has expressed interest
in doing so we'll see where this goes. More coming
up on The Rotten Greg Show and Talk Radio one
oh five nine KNRS.

Speaker 2 (01:27:59):
So, I saw two of the words, but I didn't
see the last one that we had. What was it, Yeah,
it was first one. Yeah, bonus, but too late. Now
you have to do it within the hours.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
So Look, one of the things we didn't get to
during the show that I just want to try and
land this ship or this plane on and talk about
is a Secretary of State nominee or for Secretary of
State Cabinet position center mark or Rubio's in the Senate
Foreign Relations Committee, uh talking about just answering questions from
the centers. He frames the relationship the United States has

(01:28:32):
with China about as good as I've heard. It's it's
the sinct and it's and it's not all great news,
but it's good to know that we have people that
are ready to take the helm, that understand the challenge
in front of us. Let's have a listen.

Speaker 12 (01:28:44):
If we stay on the road we're on right now,
less than ten years, virtually everything that matters to us
in life will depend on whether China will allow us
to have it or not. Everything from the blood pressure
medicine we take, to what movies we get to watch,
and everything in between, we will depend on China for it.
They have come to dominate the critical mineral industry supplies

(01:29:04):
throughout the world. Everywhere in the world. They've now established
critical mineral rights, even those who want to see more
electric cars, no matter where you make them, those batteries
are almost entirely dependent on the ability of the Chinese
and the willingness of the Chinese Communist Party to produce
it and export it to you. So if we don't
change course, we are going to live in the world
where much of what matters to us on a daily basis,

(01:29:25):
from our security to our health, will be dependent on
whether the Chinese allows us to have it or not.
That's an unacceptable outcome.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
That's kind of frightening to listen to them, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
Yeah, And you know, I would love to have heard
that without a ten less than ten year time span
for that to be the case. I mean, I think
I don't think that's hyperbole either. I have been asking
for quite some time how in the world anyone thinks
he's rare minerals and all these eb batteries you're supposed
to work When you've banned this mining in Grand County
in Utah, where we have rere minerals, you can't mine them.
In the United States. You're going into China and they're

(01:29:57):
controlling this and it seems to be fine for people.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
Well, here's what I'm concerned about, Greg. Has anybody ever
done I don't think I've seen this, We've heard it before,
an assessment of the Chinese influence in Africa and the
Chinese influence in South America, because you know, they've gone
into some of these countries, like in Africa and promise
these dictators wealth beyond their beyond their imagination, telling them

(01:30:23):
that they'll be able to put that, they'll get very
cheap labor there, and they will just they will go
after their resources and they'll control those resources. As Marco
Rubio just pointed out, is anybody assessing the impact that
China is having done places like Africa or South America.

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
And it's not just resources they're they're controlling. They're they're
they're creating fiber optics, they're creating communication networks in those countries.
They're creative and they're saying we'll give it to you
for free, but they control it all, they monitor it all,
and it's a it's a global effort that they're that
they're under that's underway, and I you know, I guess
the United States. Up till now, we didn't want to
get into some bidding war. But then you're just acquiescing

(01:31:03):
to this country that it has no interest in trade,
but has actually interest in owning outright everyone's property, their minerals.
I'm glad that our legislature and other states are starting
to ban Chinese ownership of property here in Utah and
other states have it too. I would agree, we've we've
got to pay a close We've got to pay closer
attention to this. And that's why I appreciate Center Mark

(01:31:24):
Rubio being able to express that so succinctly, because we
are on the clock and this is a serious issue
where forget your your your military prowess or strength, if
everything you need in life you have to get permission
for them to have. What are you going to do
start camping whatever? You know, what are we going to
do otherwise?

Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
Whatever happened during COVID, remember that we've got to bring
manufacturing back to America.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
Yeah, the global supply chain, the real time supply chain
alia that happened. No, it's you know, and it blows
my mind because we said real time inventory doesn't work.
Turns out, if you have some some hiccup.

Speaker 18 (01:31:57):
Uh, we know it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
We need it, We need to change, got to bring up.
We certainly do, all right. Joe Biden will have more
analysis of what he told the nation tonight. Kind of
a dark message in my opinion, but we'll talk about
that tomorrow. Of course, Steve Moore will be joining us. Tomorrow,
we'll get the latest on him, and we'll talk with
an investigative reporter in southern California looking into where exactly

(01:32:19):
that Palisades fire started. We'll get into that tomorrow as well.
So we invite you to stay with us, head up,
shoulders back. May God bless you and your family and
that it's a great country of ours. Thanks for joining
us tonight. We're back tomorrow at for we'll talk to
you then

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