The Rod and Greg Show: Founder Applauding Trump; CNN grasping at straws; Is Trump wrong about Birthright citizenship?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He'll answer any question. Come one, come all, Elon Musk
coming along and being a resource of help anyway. I
just think that America's watching something very unique happening right now.
There's no layers, there's no people that are in front
of you. You're getting to see this president. You're getting
to hear people talk about him. And I think it's
a more human version of who's who I have always

(00:21):
known him to be. I think the American public get
to see it, and so I think that's great. I
think it's a great time.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
And it is so interesting greg to watch the media
trying to drive a wedge between Donald Trump and Elon Musk,
and they don't talk about what they think of each other.
They did during Shahn's interview last night. Will air review
of those bites, but boy, they just want to drive
a wedge between those two days. They cannot stand what
is going on right now because they have no answer.

(00:48):
I mean, how do you go to the American people
and say what they've been saying. We like wasteful spending,
we like fraud in the government, we like a big bureaucracy.
That's what they're telling the American people right now. They've
left the word democracy there, bureaucracy. We have to preserve
the bureaucracy. Do you hear the words coming out of
your mouth. Did you know you just said bureaucracy. That

(01:10):
wasn't even a Freudian slip. You meant to say bureaucracy.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
I don't even know what they think the swamp or
deep state is. It's not the bureaucracy that's been running
this country without being elected, and it's basically uniparty. I mean,
it's everything we wanted to do we're seeing happening, and
you're seeing the media narrat it all as bad. Yeah,
and they're not even I don't know, it's just it
is something else.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Well, the new twists that they're putting on this, of course,
you know, and we'll talk about this a little bit
later on in the show. Greg. Well, he hasn't done
anything to bring egg prices down. He hasn't done anything
about the economy, so he is not what's very successful.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
What's it been ten minutes, it's been I.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Think it's a month today, it's thirty days ago. Today
is when he was inaugurated president of the United States.
But he has done anything about the economy. He has
not brought down the price of eggs, so so far
his presidency is a failure.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
I want to tell them, you know, the egg prices
are transitory, okay, and you have you have egg. This
sport dysmorphia. Like they said that Republicans or people that
were suffering from a bad economy and inflation going up,
we had it so good and the fact that we
didn't realize it or appreciate it meant we had money dysmorphia. Yeah,
they've got Trump dysmorphia. They've got they got trumped arrangements, Indra.

(02:28):
They can't find their bearings at all.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
This.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
I don't know if I mentioned this on the show yesterday, Greg,
but this is one of those stories where you go,
why didn't I think of that. There's a company out
there where you can rent a chicken. You know, actually
you can rent two chickens, two hands, right, and they
give you a cage and they give you feed to
do that. It's called rent a chicken. If you ever smelled,
I do not like I do not like chickens. Chicken

(02:53):
a great idea. I would rather pay more.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Than have a chicken.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
I bet Queen b would like the idea.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
I think she would.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I think she gets fired up these prices about these chickens.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
He's right down. Yeah, random chicken. There you go. So
we've got a lot to get to today. We're going
to talk about the chicken issue. We're going to talk
about how the founding Fathers would be a plotting Donald
Trump today for what he's doing. We'll get into that,
we'll talk about birthright citizenship, and a whole lot more.
So we invite you to stay with us here on
the Rowden Greg Show as you work your way home

(03:22):
on this Wednesday afternoon. All Right, a lot of discussion yesterday,
mister Hughes. You predicted this at the time about daylight
savings time versus Daylight Standard Time and what Utah lawmakers
may do or not do about this bill. Well, apparently
something that's happened today.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
I just reported today that the Senate Senate Committee considering
a Representative Joey Wilson's bill that would move us to
permanently to daylight standard time until unless, and until Congress
allowed for us to move to daylight savings time.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
That bill.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Looked at that bill yesterday as we were discussing this
issue with our great listeners, and it seemed to have
stalled in the Senate. It passed like on January twenty
second out of the House and it was not going anywhere,
and that's always a bad sign. Well, today, on a
vote seven votes to one, the bill was voted to
be tabled. Now you might not know, but that just

(04:20):
sounds like, oh, we don't like it. Tabling a bill
is quite at least in the Mason rules of order
that the legislature uses, that is a death penalty, that
is a death sentence to a bill where you need
two thirds of your committee to actually make a motion
to have it untabled. You could have moved on to
the next item on the agenda. That's just a majority vote.
You could you could have had a motion to pass

(04:41):
out paperally, which failed, and then you just go on.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
No, this was a motion to table.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
That is a motion to take a sledgehamder to that
bill and beat it beyond into oblivion. That bill wasn't
just not voted for or sent to the floor. That
bill was dead buried six feet.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
So basically, tabling a bill is a kiss of death.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
It's gone, it is gone.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
It's gonna sit there for us.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
It's gone, there's no recon Yeah. Yeah, it's a it's
a very harsh motion.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
By the way, are you surprised.

Speaker 6 (05:12):
I am.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
I heard a little rumblings about them. I mean, you know,
the House did what it did. It passed it fairly easily,
I think. But you said, I get to the Senate and.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Then but you know, the way the legislature typically works
is they just let things kind of you know, let
the clock run out. You gotta you gotta, you gotta
game clock. It's it's ticking down, and usually you can
you can kill bills by just it just the clock
runs out. Now, this one was a proactive We're gonna
we are not talking about this one more word. We're

(05:42):
killing this thing better than fried chicken. And that is
what they did. That is what surprises me. They have
a little bit more decorum, I would argue in the Senate,
but this one they just said, we're done.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Talking about it.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, well you can.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Talk about it, but you you may as well talk
about the tooth fairy.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Right now. Did this issue up when you were in
the in the legislature, Yes, it did. Yeah, I mean
this issue comes up. It seems like yearly.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
I have to admit, though, Rod, that when I was
a lawmaker, I thought I thought this discussion was just ancillary.
I just didn't think it was as critical. I have
come to appreciate this argument more. And then when I
saw that President Trump was really getting behind it too,
I'm like, well, now, look look at the traction. This
is actually a legitimate issue. This isn't just you know,

(06:25):
because you'd hear I get emails every year, I just
didn't really I support it. Anytime it was in front
of me, I support it, but I just didn't put
a lot of political capital into it. But then you
saw this national movement and you saw Trump talk about it.
I really thought that this might be the year that
this bill has some legs because of the popularity of
Trump alone.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
But no, No, I was wrong on that. No, there's
no legs on this. This thing's legs have been removed.
It has been varied. It's like I said, better than
Fried Chihn.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Well, and I agree with you, Greg, and you've kind
of taken this attitude. I think in the past. There
are more important things to do right now in this state.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
There are some.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Bills that I see now and I say to myself
to the legislature of my former colleagues. This is why
we can't have nice things, because you are spending so
much capital on things that just don't matter. Don't matter,
they're not they're not real, they're just kind of messages,
or they're just and there's just a lot going on.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
You mentioned just a minute ago fried Chicken. Yes, you
no longer can call Kentucky Fried Chicken Kentucky Fried Chicken.
Why because the headquarters of Kentucky Fried Chicken is moving
to Texas, So Kentucky Fried Chicken no longer you.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Know, I think I don't.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Lady and gentlemen, is a graduate from the University of Texas.
I think it is one of those everything went from Texas.
Everything is the biggest in Texas. Now look at I'm
talking about. It's now Texas Fried Texas Fried Chick.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
You can't call it Kentucky Fried Chicken if they aren't
in Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
I need to see is Elon Musk would encourage all
of us. I need your source material, source material.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
On this one.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
I have to go with you.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
I'm not buying your Texas centric news.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
All right, all right, we got a lot to get
to today. It's great to have you with us today.
We're here right up until seven o'clock tonight, keep you
up to date on everything that's going on here in
the state of Utah. And there certainly is a lot
going on today. But let's take a break right now
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Speaker 6 (08:36):
I like?

Speaker 3 (08:36):
What free?

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, it is free.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
I like the free part.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Free. Never sounded so free, is awesome? Yeah, never sounded
so good? All right. One of the real issues that
Utah Senator Mike Lee has been battling for a long time,
Greg is the Save Act. The Save Act has to
deal with elections, but of course those on the left
are attacking it, even to the point that the Act
would stop married women from voting. Is that all, try

(09:01):
and do that right? Well? Joining us on our Newsmaker
line to talk all about that today, and it's always
great to have her on the show. Beth Bill. Yeah,
she's an elections correspondent at the Federalist. Beth, how are
you welcome to the Roden greg Show.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
Great, it's nice to be with you guys.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Beth. Okay, how is the Save Act going to stop
married women from voting?

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Well, you know, and I know that it's not because
women are stupid, but what they're pushing is that it's
just so hard after a woman gets married and changes
her name and does all that paperwork, who register to vote?
If she has to show that she's changed her name,

(09:43):
now her birth certificate won't match her her actual her
new name, and it's just too confusing. So millions of
women will be disenfranchised, you know. I mean, you know,
people go to war women and the Suffer movement, Mark
they did all these things to vote, and we're like,

(10:05):
we can't show a little paperwork to prove where you usehold.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah, this whole maiden name thing, what a wrench and
all the works of society we did. We have no
idea that just society crumbles upon a marriage and the
existence of a maiden name. When people read just tell me,
does this Will this play with Americans? Will they follow
this uh story that that the Save Act is going

(10:28):
to stop married women from being able to vote? Do
they do they laugh at the headline? Do they read
any further? Do they read the context and dismiss it?
I just don't Does this work?

Speaker 4 (10:39):
Well, you know, some people will believe it, and and
they're pushing it so hard. They've got a big media
blitz right now. They've got uh they're talking to all
kinds of media outlets, so you'll see a bunch of
news stories out there right now. And there they've got
email blasts to nonprofit groups. They're asking for money so

(11:02):
they can fight this action. And then you know that's
the headline is so women will find it harder to
vote and it will disenfranchise women. But then there's an oh,
by the way, and that is that it will make
it harder to register online or through the mail. Well,

(11:27):
those are the ways that you cheat. Yeah, we want
to make that harder. You know that they're like, oh,
women will find a harder vote, and by the way,
it'll practically eliminate voter registration drives. Well, yeah, you know,
if someone doesn't have the wherewithal to get themselves registered
to vote. Maybe they shouldn't be voting, you know, we
shouldn't begging them. We shouldn't be having to walk up

(11:49):
to people and put a pen in their hand and
beg them to register a vote. They need to be
engaged enough in the political process that they, you know,
find it important enough to know what's going on and
to vote.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
That's this narrative you're talking about is being pushed by
like Glamour magazine and Miss magazine and USA today. I mean,
these publications, aren't they out there supporting women and fighting
for women's rights, But when it comes to this Save Act,
aren't they basically saying women are stupid?

Speaker 4 (12:21):
Yeah? They are, you know, and but you have to
know it's not They're willing to say that because they're
entrenched with the left ideology of you know, everything you
left leaning is this is this is really about. It's
really about preserving the ability to cheat. They've worked very

(12:43):
hard to make it so that there's no excuse votings.
I think we should kind of remind folks with what
this is. What they're saying is to register to vote,
you have to show some decent id like a real
ID or or your passport or military ID, or maybe

(13:03):
your birth certificate. Maybe you got divorced, maybe you've got
to show some legal papers to show your name change
this kind of thing that you have. That paperwork is accessible.
If you don't have it, you can get it from courthouses.
You know you can. There's you know, there's an election
coming up next year. You've got time to get registered
to vote, right. So what they're saying is that's just

(13:23):
too hard to make people prove that they're citizens. They
really don't want to have to prove that people are citizens.
You know, in Pennsylvania they have a rule that, well,
if someone doesn't have the registration information, just go ahead
and register them anyway if they if they're requesting it

(13:47):
through the mail, because we don't want to disenfranchise people.
But that's that's how people end up cheating. But this
is a movement that's bigger than the magazines that you're
talking about. I mean, there's if you were to google
the Save Act right now and then hit news, you're
going to find hundreds of stories across the country with

(14:09):
the same messaging. And they all really come from two groups.
The Brennan uh Now I've gone and forgotten, and the American.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Center for American Progress is progress. Yeah, well, pretty amazing, Beth,
great reporting. Appreciate a few minutes of your time.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Thank you, all right, goodbye, Thanks.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
So much on our Newsmaker line, Beth, brilliant. By the way.
The Save Act, which we've had Mike on the show
many times talking about basically would require states to get
proof of citizenship in person before registering an individual to
vote in a federal election. Makes sense.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Just just look at your life, and I don't know
what we do in life that where ID is not
required somewhere to function as an adult. I just don't
this This logical, you know, extreme or intellectual inconsistency just
doesn't fly.

Speaker 6 (15:04):
Now.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
They must want to cheat if they don't want an ID,
because we get we have to show idea.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Everywhere everywhere, all right, even to get into this building.
I think. All right, more coming up on the Rotten
Greg joke me and Talk Radio one oh five nine
kN s on the History Channel. That's how exciting my
life is, right, go ahead and make fun of.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Me, that's what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
But it was it was an interesting documentary on Thomas Jefferson,
which I didn't know a whole lot about and learned
some some important things there. But him, along with you know,
John Adams, Ben Franklin, James Madison, I mean, they were
all very very concerned about too much power here in
the United States resting with one branch of government. They

(15:49):
really they were very very concerned about it. And I
think that's what Donald Trump is trying to do now.
His heed's trying to equal things out a little bit.
He's trying to because you've got up, yeah, you've got
the fourth estate, which is the swamp or the bureaucracy
basically running this country. And that's not the way it
was intended.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
At least our founding fathers had the memory of a king.
It wasn't treating them too fair. Yeah, so they had
they had an example of centralized power that was tyrannical
in nature.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
But it's been a long time since then, huh.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
So we do know that President Trump is working on this,
and boy, the weeping and whaling is just positive social
proofing as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
It is.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
Well.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Joining us on our Newsmaker line right now to talk
more about this is Robert Charles, President of the Charles group,
and he wrote about this, about this separation of power
and why the founding fathers may be very happy with
Donald Trump, at least to this point. Robert, how are
you welcome to the Rod and Greg Show. It is
great to be on your show, Robert. Let me ask you,
I mean what you know? This, this separation of powers

(16:47):
was really important to our founders, wasn't it.

Speaker 7 (16:50):
It was, so I'll just you know the nutshell ten
second version is that they separated the federal powers between
the executive, the legislative branch, which is Congress, and the
judicial branch. But then they also created a vertical separation
in the Tenth Amendment and frankly throughout the Bill of
Rights and the Constitution, in which they understood that states
have rights and people have rights that are not enumerated

(17:12):
in the rights that we give to the federal government.
So they had multiple checks and balances, and the primary
purposes you alluded to in your opening was really to
keep government limited because they understood, and reference both of
you to the King, they understood that when concentrated power
begins to call the shots, all of a sudden, the

(17:34):
individual liberties go away. It's a zero sum game. The
more liberties you take away, or to put it differently,
the more you concentrate power, the fewer liberties the individual has.
So the gut, the bottom line on all this is
that they really built us a system that was intended
to function with limited federal power, and I hate to

(17:56):
add it, but a relatively moral and education voting population.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
So I think that that every fear that may have
been contemplated by our founding fathers were realizing all these
years later in real time. Because you have such a
distorted even narration of what bureaucracy is. You have the
regime media as I call them, defending the bureaucracy and
fearing for the bureaucracy at the hands of a duly
elected president or their attempt to bring transparency or even

(18:27):
heaven forbid, break it up. If unchecked bureaucracy equals you know,
tyranny and corruption. What's it going to take for us
to actually see this happen where we see that the
checks and balances. I don't even know if we can
restore them to what was intended, but maybe balance it
out a little bit better. Is this going to happen?

(18:47):
One person can't do it as much as Trump's done,
and as fast as he's done it, there's got to
be a continuation here. It's got to be longer, and
people have to understand that when they're someone's defending bureaucracy,
they're actually making the case of what we don't want.

Speaker 7 (19:01):
Yeah, I think what you're witnessing here, and it's hopeful
to me, is that you have three or four things
going on at the same time. First, you have a
president who came in with a mandate uptick from twenty
twenty and virtually every single demographic and one of the
primary things he was trying to do is in the
accountability crisis. Now that's at the Justice Department, it's in finance,

(19:21):
it's in all kinds of areas. And so the first
thing that you're witnessing is a very strong minded, very
publicly tied to the people leader who's call them a
populist if you want, who is saying we need to
get this government back under control. We have more than
two thousand departments and bureas. We don't even know all
these igs that are out there. They can't even tell

(19:42):
you how many departments, agencies and commissions.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Literally you can go look up.

Speaker 7 (19:46):
We don't know how many there are. Okay, it's a
bunch of wild, wild rabbits that got out of the
cage or covey. So at the end of the day,
the first thing you're witnessing is a strong leader who
is doing what the people want, making their government accountable.
The second thing that you're with missing is a public
education campaign that happens by virtue of doing what he's doing.
And the third is that you're really a culturating you're

(20:08):
kind of bringing bad children back into the process of
being good children. All these bureaucrats and I worked there.

Speaker 8 (20:14):
I was the assistant Secretary of State for.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Colon Pollan is his biggest ber.

Speaker 7 (20:18):
I ran a two billion dollar operation and I cut,
and I cut and I and I de obligated and
I fired. And it was ugly. But and that was
just one bureau in one department. At the end of
the day, we're looking at a process in which the
bureaucracy has to be trimmed back the way a weed
garden that has overgrown itself is restored to some level

(20:39):
of order. And so I'm optimistic because I think as
people watch this, they're watching something play out that will
ultimately it is already bankrupting the Democrat Party in terms
of their moral legitimacy. They are protesting in favor of
the fraud. They are protesting in favor of letting the
weed garden grow. They're protesting in favor of trillions of

(21:02):
dollars taken from people who work hard every single day.
I come from Maine. People up here have an average
income of forty two thousand dollars. My mother started at
twelve thousand.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (21:12):
People worked to the their fingers to the bone, and
then you got these bureaucrats who spend like you know,
like there's no tomorrow. And so what's happening here is
there is a genuine returning of the big big ship.
To get it back on compass needle.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Not going to be easy, but at least we're seeing
someone try. Robert, thanks for joining us this afternoon. Great
article and great insight. Again, thank you, thank you. All Right,
Hi on our newsmaker line. That's Robert Charles, president of
the Charles Group, talking about how proud the founders of
this great country of ours would be of Donald Trump.
And don't laugh at me for watching the History Channel.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, I just stumbled on, like I said, you are
a madman, wild man you are.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
That's crazy. It was fascinating trying to educate myself a little.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
The chandeliers crazy over there at the Arc at home.
They are our ash sham in that history channel.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Make fun all you want. There's some people out there
who yeah, detail, I know, I did. I did set
myself up all right. More coming up on the Rod
and Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine.
K and R asked a lot to get to as
you will work your way home on this this Wednesday
afternoon Wingman Wednesday. I love this story, Mark camp You
know who Mark Hamill is, right, Mark Hamill, Mark Hamill?

(22:29):
Oh yeah, Luke Skywalker, Yeah, Luke Skywalker right? Big supporter
of Donald Trump or not? No, Joe Biden hates Donald Trump.
You know what happened to him yesterday or this weekend?
There's there's poetic justice in this story. Apparently he was
making a presentation of an award at the Baptist I
think that's the British version of the the Academy Awards.

(22:52):
Never heard of it, Okay, well that's what it is,
all right. So he I didn't realize this. He's seventy
three years old. Wow, an old guy, you young Luke,
not anymore. He was giving a speech when his pants
fell down. He was in his tuxi though, and he
was saying, and everyone noticed his voice was changing a

(23:12):
little bit. Well, he's reaching down trying to grab his
pants because they were dropping to.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
His ankles fallen. You know there's something about that story
that literally does not have the force anymore. He clearly
is no longer a Jedi. We should have known when
he started bashing Trump that his Jedi powers were long gone.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah. I did mention earlier. KFC is moving to Texas.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
I don't I reject.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
There's the story right there. You know they're moving their.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Headquarters just because you show me a piece of paper
means source materials okay.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
And the National Weather Service they have now officially changed
maps to read Gulf of America. Yes, look they've changed
the maps.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Mile McKinley was changing them out the Gnolly or whatever
they called it. Like in a blink of an eye.
It seemed like theocrats could change every name of everything,
and nobody even talked about it. It just just happened,
and no, there was no commentary required. Uh Now, everybody's
kicking and screaming. Let Trump's in charge, man.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Well he's in charge. He's calling Gulf of America come
hell or high water, and the National Weather Service Google, Google,
Google gone along with this too. I think they've changed things,
Yes they have.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, so well, if the AP keeps holding out, they're
never getting on that that that uh that Air Force
one Press Corps.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
But they're never getting in the room on the press
briefing neither. That ain't gonna happen if they don't change
their tombs.

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Speaker 3 (24:55):
Dot com, get on and vote cloaks.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
All right, more coming up our number two. They're rotting
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as you work your way home. I'm rotarkt Citizen Hughes.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
We got a lot.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
You're gonna say something, Yes, you laugh when you laugh
when he just puts me vapor. When you get to
the microphone and you go, I'm assuming you're going to
say something.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
I was, and then you started laughing. I'm like, well, yeah,
maybe I didn't.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Would you like to say now what you were going
to say?

Speaker 3 (25:31):
No, you ruined a moment at the moment's coming.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
I thought you were with your with your amazing insight.
I now it's now you're going to share that with us,
And now you're.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Anti climatic now because it's been built up too much.
So now I can't do it.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Now you can't do it.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
But I will tell you this. The doge just found
that that's still.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
You know, what's the what's the word on Stagy?

Speaker 1 (25:50):
You remember her, she ran for governor and she lost
to camp and Georgia governor's race. She's she said it
was all campaign fraud. There was a Jim Crow two
point zero, that there was campaign suppression, you know. W Anyway,
that's back when that was pre Trump, when you could
actually she and Hillary could argue, you know, election fraud. Anyway,

(26:13):
doats just found out that she had an account in
twenty twenty four, I think, well, you know, right before
Biden checked out, had a hundred bucks in it. It
was a nonprofit and they got let me say how
much of two billion?

Speaker 9 (26:25):
Million?

Speaker 3 (26:26):
No, No, I think it's with a b. Actually, let
me see a billion.

Speaker 6 (26:30):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Wowp it is two billion with a bow in an
account that had that had one hundred bucks in it.
It is the Power Forward Communities. It was only a
few months old even though and had just one hundred
dollars in the bank when it received a two billion
dollars grant in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Go figure.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
On their website, they list partnerships with two other nonprofits.
They guess what, We're both founded by Stacy Abrams, the
same person. Abrams also serves as a Senior council for
rewiringma Appropriate, an organization that leads a coalition of groups
including Power Forward Community. So, wow, two billions. So this
is the stuff that I think right before he left office, Yes,

(27:09):
she got the money. Is remember how we heard stories
that he was trying to trump proof Yeah, Washington. I
mean this is where they're just sending money everywhere, trying
to just bolster everyone up to fight him, and they're
fine in the receipts.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
It's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
It's a good thing. Well, so I'm looking through the
various news sources that I check out. One of them
I check out every day is the New York Times.
So what I see in the New York Times today
and the Salt Lake Tribune is now picked up on
this story. Here is the headline, A lonely holdout where
Republicans still resist Trump Utah. The sub headline bolstered by

(27:44):
Mormon voters distaste for megapolitics. The center right is trying
to reassert itself in the Ruby red state. So we
talked about times, and we talked about this earlier.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Come on, I mean, honestly, when you hear that, when
you hear what Roger just read, does that sound like
the state you live in? Does that sound accurate to you?
I don't think it's accurate at all. I will just
say this. We have Mike Lee as our senator, and
at one time in Utah from twenty eighteen to twenty
twenty four, we had Mitt Romney, which one ran the

(28:17):
honest campaign about who they were, because I will tell
you that in twenty eighteen, Mitt Romney was all in
one hundred percent with President Trump. He could not praise
him enough. He could not tell you how great of
a president.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
He was.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
He was wrong in sixteen when he ran and he's
been proven wrong. He could not say it more often
than he did in that primary election in twenty eighteen
when he won that seat. You look at his conduct,
his voting record, his comments, his op eds in the
Washington Post after he got elected, and then you look
at Mike Lee. We voted for both. It's pretty hard

(28:51):
to say that Utahns would support both of those senators
and their approach or their worldview because they're very, very different.
Which one ran the authentic campaign? I would argue Mike
Lee's campaign, He's the same guy he ran as a candidate,
always has been. I would say that the guy that
was running in eighteen, Mitt Romney, became very different very quickly.

(29:11):
So we're not We're not this state that is like
Mitt Romney and you know wells Trump.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
This whole story is about a new political action committee
being formed by a Republican is endorsing candidates who emphasized
problem solving over partisanship. Okay, her name is Becky Edwards. Now,
she ran against Mike Lee and basically got her tail
kicked right against and I've worked with Becky Edwards. She
Knights lady on the Utah Debate Commission. Very very nice

(29:38):
lady also served with did you also involved in this
is Gary Herbert, former governor here in the state of Utah,
talking about apparently he made an address to UH to
young Republicans here in the state about having a conversation.
You have you have Spencer Cox, who you know, started
the what is it what they call that that disagree

(30:01):
better campaign? He's turned away from that, by the way.
But this, this whole article is about how Utons, modern
Utons are trying to bring conservative Utons back to the
center here in the state of Utah.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Have you noticed that every moral failing, whether it's you know,
you know, terrible partisanship or bagotry or or or just
abusive language, whatever they want to say, it's always attributed
to Donald Trump, or to Republicans, or make America great again,
America first Americans. But Obamacare Expansion or Obamacare was passed

(30:38):
only with Democrat votes in the House and Senate. There
was a single Republican That seems that feels pretty partisan
to me. The vitriol and the and the name calling
from the left currently, is anyone keeping score out there
if they think this is coming from the right. I mean,
if this selective outrage in logic is just bizarre. It's
absolutely bizarre. And I don't think the state matches up

(31:01):
to it. Maybe our listeners think this is more of
a moderate state. I think we had moderate politicians that
tricked us when they when they ran for office. But
I think this state is conservative and Republican and loves
this president.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
That's my position.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Well, here, in typical fashion, the New York Times buried
rather interesting observation Greg And here's what they wrote. This
is like buried eight pages into the article. Still, it's
easy to make too much of the anti mega mood
among Latter day Saints.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
It's easy to make too much because it doesn't exist
as described it.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Okay, they want, but I want to ask our listeners
tonight because you know, I see articles like this and
I just can we just stop this? I mean, what
you know, they're trying to show Utah and hates Donald Trump,
which it does not, and you know we're drifting to
the left. Really, come on, folks, eight, Yeah, it's not true.

(31:57):
What's your question? You had a question for the audience tonight.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
This whole issue, to the point of this New York
Times article that would say that Utah Republicans don't die
don Trump, and they are moving away becoming a more
center right coalition trying to distance themselves from Trump.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Is that the state you live in? Is that the Utah?

Speaker 6 (32:18):
You know?

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Do you think that's an accurate portrayal by the New
York Times of the state of Utah?

Speaker 2 (32:22):
And do we dislike his courts language, his attacks on women,
which I don't know where they're coming up with that one,
but they always seem to bring that up. Eight eight
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On the Rod and Greg Show. On This Wingman Wednesday afternoon,

(32:44):
Nate had to step away for a minute. So Jake
is going solo on this on this stage.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
So low hear the man behind.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
What's he doing?

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Uh, he's got a championship game.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, it's trying to get you.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yeah, he's got a check on his Well, he'll be back.

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He'll be back.

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All right, let's talk before the break. We were talking
about this New York Times article that says, Utah loan
out there because we're a ruby red state, but apparently
we detest Donald Trump. Yeah, and moderate politicians here in

(34:07):
the state are trying to change that.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Well, it's wrong. I'm telling you right now.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
It's a it's a it is a false narrative, and
I think that we in Utah are led to believe
these false narratives from even low. I would even just
regime media's New York Times. I'd say, you're some of
our local outlets are left of center or do not?
I mean, if I got to hear that there is
no Venezuelan gang problem here, and I gotta keep reading

(34:33):
every single day that we got Venezuelan gang members getting arrested,
I'm gonna die because I'm just It tries me crazy.
It's just an absolute false narrative. So if you're being
told that that Utahs don't like Trump, I'm telling you
the math says otherwise. I'm staring at the results. I
know how Utah has voted, and by number and then
by percentage. Donald Trump doesn't have a problem in Utah.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Let's go to the phone, see what you think. Andrew
is in Riverton here on the Roden Greg Show. Andrew,
how are you? Thanks so much for joining us. What
are your thoughts on this? Andrew?

Speaker 10 (35:06):
Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. You know, I
hate to say this, but I think that article might
not be too far off. I personally believe that thirty
five percent of the state's very conservative MAGA thirty five
percent is pretty moderate, and I think about thirty percent
is maybe more on the Democrat side. And I think

(35:26):
the LDS Church is to blame for a lot of
this blame. I don't know if that's the right word,
but I think a big part of it, I think,
you I use a big part of it. They're not
as conservative as they used to be. You know, I
wish that were different. I know where II leen I'm
on the NAGA side of things, but it's not looking
as pretty as I wish it would. And I think
a lot of our elected officials too, getting into office

(35:48):
and the ways that they did. There's not a whole
lot of trusted news sources in you saw that are
very conservative outside of maybe your Guys's radio talk show.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah, thank you, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (36:00):
No.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Andrew makes a good point.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Here's here's and I know I experienced what he's experienced,
and I'm telling you the negative. The liberal and leftist
narrative in this state has a far greater footprint than
it deserves given the makeup of this state, So it
leads us. I think BYU has lost its moorings as well.
I think that that university is a shell of what
it was when I when I was a student there.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
But I'll just tell you this.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
That we have four members, we have four congressional seats,
all held by Republicans. And we've had times in Utah
going back from when I moved here in nineteen ninety one,
we had we had Democrats.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
You had you had a.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Jim Rayne Owens, Bill Wharton, you had Jim Matheson, You've
had You've had Adam McAdams. We've had Democrats that have
represented us in Congress in one of our districts. We
have four Republicans. We have you know, we've Governor's Republican.
You know, the legislature, Republicans, super majority in the state House,
super majority of Republicans in the state in the Senate.

(36:56):
You have even a Salt Lake County Council where you
would argue the only world Democrats live except for maybe
Park City in Park City, Park Park City and moapp
But we have a majority of Republicans on the Salty
County Council. So I don't think that this Republican brand
is suffering. I think we are stronger Republicans. I'm looking

(37:17):
at the numbers. Let's just go, let's keep going talking
about but I hear what Andrew's saying because I feel
it too.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Okay, let's go to Paula, Paula. Let's go to Paula
and Ogden. Paula.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Thank you for holding and welcome to the Wingman Wednesday
version of The Rodden Greg Show.

Speaker 11 (37:34):
Thank you.

Speaker 12 (37:36):
I agree with your last caller I have. I'm trying
to get involved in the elections and people I love
dearly hated Donald Trump, and so I.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Did they vote for him anyway? Did they hold their
nose and vote for him? Or they didn't vote?

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Do you know? Do they do you know how they voted?

Speaker 12 (37:59):
I don't. I don't know how they voted, but I
suspect they.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Did not vote because of it. Okay, that's that's that's good,
that's good to know.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
But I I see the only way that this actually
carries is if people could not vote for Kamalace so
they voted for for Trump. I couldn't vote for you know,
U Biden.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
They voted.

Speaker 12 (38:20):
Oh these people they either hated both, or they hated
or they hated him so bad they voted for her.

Speaker 13 (38:30):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Wow.

Speaker 12 (38:31):
So and these are family members. I'll bet fifty percent
of my family, Wow, voted and I didn't vote at
all or.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
So voted. I yeah, all right, Paula, thank you, we
appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
I hate hearing that makes me sad.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Let's go to Lisa and Sandy's dyne. Lisa, how are
you welcome to the Robin Gregg Joe.

Speaker 5 (38:53):
WHI.

Speaker 14 (38:53):
I'm doing great and I don't want to make you sad. Yeah,
you're gonna agree with the last two callers.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Well, yeah, I understand it. You know, I don't get it.

Speaker 14 (39:04):
We had our caucuses. Everybody by caucus except for being
a couple of other people voted for Nikki Hayley. So
that's what they were good that a lot of people
they can't win as a Democrats, so they switch over
sides like John Curtis did, so that we can win.
They can win.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
You know, there there is that factory. So that is true.

Speaker 14 (39:24):
They do. And I actually live in Davis County, but
I am surrounded. My whole neighborhood is anti Trump, and
I think part of it is that the actual sin
of being judgmental. We're not voting for the pope, We're
voting for someone to go on their type for us,

(39:44):
and I think, you know, the s people in general
need to understand that. But that's what we're voting for.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
They would never hear that whole ye without sin cast
the first stone thing judgment judged.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
I mean it's kind of a thing, right, did I
say during the campaign? Vote don't vote, don't vote for
the politician, vote for his or her policies. Now we
can see what Donald Trump's policies are doing, trying to
shrink the size of government. All right, got a lot
of calls to get to if you want to join
in on this conversation tonight eight eight eight five seven
eight zero one zero eight eight eight five seven oh

(40:20):
eight zero one zero, and say, hey, Rod, join in
on the discussion. We're talking about this article today in
the New York Times, of all places, a headline is
a lonely holdout where Republicans still resist Trump. Utah goes
on to say that, bolstered by Mormon voters distaged for megapolitics,
the center right is trying to reassert itself in a

(40:42):
ruby red state, and we're trying to find out if
in fact that is true. Eight eight eight five seven
eight zero one zero, or on your cell phone to
out pound two to fifteen and say, hey, Rod, before
we go back to the phones, you had some interesting
numbers you found, Greg.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Yeah, let's just.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Go buy the numbers shit, just so we you can
kind of judge this. So Mitt Romney very popular in
Utah when he ran for president right against Barack Obama
in the reelection, high percentage of total vote seventy two
point at seventy three percent of the vote.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
That's high.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
But number of people vote. Now, I know the state's growing.
But in twenty twelve, seven hundred and forty thousand, six
hundred people voted for Mitt Romney. Okay, now let's fast forward.
Would it surprise anyone that in twenty twenty twenty four,
eight hundred and eighty three thousand people eight hundred and
eighteen voted for Donald Trump, which was just under sixty percent.

(41:32):
In twenty twenty he received eight hundred and sixty five
thousand votes and it was fifty eight percent. The twenty
sixteen his first race was down. That was a forty
five and a half percent by the electorate. It was
still and so that one was five hundred and fifteen
thousand he got his nobody voted for Hillary Clinton. That number,
these Democrat numbers stay about the same. But Evan McMullen McMuffin,

(41:56):
he pulled about twenty one and a half percent of
the vote away from Donald Trump's Republican in twenty sixteen.
But after twenty sixteen, the numbers just kept growing. Like
I said, eight hundred and sixty five thousand and fifty
eight percent in twenty twenty and eight hundred and eighty
three thousand. That's the most any Republican president in the
by number has ever received by way of votes in
Utah and now is fifty nine point three eight percent.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
So not too shabby, Nope, not at all.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
And Rodney got seven hundred and forty thousand votes and
our Trump train got eight hundred and eighty three thousand
and twenty four.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
A little bit of a difference. Let's go back to
the phone, see what you have to say on our
conversation with you. Tonight we go to Nicky in South Weaver. NICKI,
how are you? Thanks so much for joining us.

Speaker 13 (42:37):
I'm awesome, thank you, and I'm actually calling to give you.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
Good news, okay good.

Speaker 13 (42:43):
I come from a really big family and we're all Trumpers.
We love him. And also I have a large network
of friends. I do have some Democrat friends, and I
do have some friends who plug their nose.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
And voters for Trump.

Speaker 13 (42:56):
But the vast majority of people that I know are
Republicans and who voted voted for Donald Trump, and they
love what he's doing.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Oh that is very good news.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Now now I'm happy again. I was sad. I was sad.
I was really sad.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
I heard you.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
We got a triple you know, kind of and they
all were supportive of at present, but they just living
with environments where people were really against Trump.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Well, thank you.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Well we had that coming from Frank Lundcy the other day,
the CNN pollster who does a lot of focus groups,
and everybody out there loving the pace of change that
he's doing. That he promised to get after the swamp,
and that's exactly what he is.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
That's why I'm a little surprised that even our callers
still have a sphere where people are are are not supportive.
So let's keep going to the film. Let's go to
Jody and Harriman. Jody, thank you for holding. Welcome to
Rod and Greg show.

Speaker 9 (43:46):
Oh hi, how are you good?

Speaker 3 (43:48):
What say you? Do you think that Utah likes Trump?

Speaker 6 (43:51):
Trump?

Speaker 3 (43:51):
Where you think.

Speaker 13 (43:54):
I think they do.

Speaker 9 (43:55):
There are so many strong Trump supporters, I myself, and
sadly I think there's people in the LDS church by myself,
but some of them are not receiving inspirations. How great
of a man he has looked his life got saved
a couple of times, and God wanted Trump to be
in there. And you have seen his demeanor change. He

(44:18):
has received, you know, spiritualness from God. He does not smoke,
he doesn't drink, he doesn't do drugs, and he's a
good family man. So if Elias some people can't see that,
they're the ones that aren't receiving inspiration. How great of
a man he is?

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yeah, he is. He is doing some great things right now.
And you're right, when you come that close to losing
your life, it does change. And I think he has changed.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
And let's ask, are you not our listeners. I don't
think they have this problem. But look, show me a
presence that's ever attended the rally, the Right to life rally.
He's the only one. Tell me a president that said
has defined there are men and there are women, and
that's the definition. Sounds like a proclamation you want to know,
But I'm telling you religious liberties. The man is doing
the work, He's not just paying lip service to it.

(45:06):
All of these things are are things that should really
resonate with and I do think resonate with you.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Tom. Back to the phones. Let's go to Syracuse.

Speaker 5 (45:14):
Here.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
What Anne has to say tonight here on the Roden
Greg Show. How are you Ann? Thanks for joining us?

Speaker 4 (45:21):
Doing well?

Speaker 15 (45:21):
Says I here.

Speaker 16 (45:23):
I'm on the road like all day every day, and
I keep hearing advertisements like be sure you get on
your wick, be sure you get the lunch stuff and
everything else. I think that a big problem that that
Trump is having is from some people around here is because.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
I'm sorry, we're losing you cracking up on us, But
I wish we could have got your rhone. We want
to get back to more of your phone calls. We
continue our discussion on this eight eight eight five seven
o eight zero one zero eight eight eight five seven
o eight zero one zero more your calls and comments
coming up as we talk about Donald Trump and voters
in Utah coming up here on the Rod and Gregg Show.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
I'm citizen in Hughes and I'm Rod arc Kent.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Delayed for just a second, but we're back and ready
to go. We're talking about a New York Times article
today says that Utah's are leaning more and more away
from Donald Trump and more towards a more civil discourse
in politics today.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
I'm not buying it near New York Times, does it, no, Utah?

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Yeah, civil discourse anymore gets you nowhere?

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Civil discourse like the view would that be?

Speaker 5 (46:37):
It?

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Would civil discourse be like the like Maxine Waters? Yeah, Chuck, Yeah,
give me, just show me what it is they're talking about.
It's just a contrived narrative beginning, middle, and end. Let's
go to our Let's go to the smartest people in
all the land, our listeners. Let's go to Lindsay in
Plain City. Lindsay, thank you for holding and welcome to

(46:58):
the Rod and Gregg Show.

Speaker 6 (47:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (47:02):
I just uh, I agree with you guys.

Speaker 17 (47:04):
One.

Speaker 8 (47:05):
I think the article is a joke that I just
wanted to say. Let's keep in mind that our own
governor Detoed Lettings boys and men play in women's sports
and got be towed back by Congress, and he's concerned
about pronouns and stuff. And I'm not trying to disc
Governor Cox. But at the end of the day, we

(47:26):
need to understand where Utah is. You don't like to
say to Utah and they't let our values get out.
We've got to stop this stuff about oh this happens here,
or the LDS church is wanting this to this. No,
I think there's a tens of thousands up in the
state of Utah that are sick of it. That's why
Trump is in office and that's why we support them.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Yeah, I'm with you on that one. And by the way,
have you known this my own perception, I think Spencer
Cox has learned his lesson.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
He's pivoted hard.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Yeah, he is pivoted real hard. I mean he he
signed the anti union so called anti union build over
the weekend. I mean he you know, he's taking some
conservative saying. I think he did learn his lesson.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
He vetoed the bill that would prohibit boys from playing
girls sports. The legislature overrode that veto but then the
next year they banned transgender surgeries for minors and he
signed that into law. So he learned a lot over
that countar year, didn't he. But here's the thing. Even
when we hear all this, you know, this lecturing of
moderate lecturing, leftist lecturing from Utah elected officials. I never

(48:28):
heard any of them campaign on any of those specific
issues that they always surface after the election.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
For the election. You're right, all right, Let's go to
Frank in Salt Lake City. Frank, how are you welcome
to the Roden Gregg Joe.

Speaker 8 (48:40):
Hey, guys, call in from the ninth Central District of
Salt Lake City. Happy to talk to you first.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Belly of the Peace. Yes it is, go ahead, Frank.

Speaker 8 (48:52):
But no, I love the subject today because the callers.
I feel like some in the last hour or so
sounded sad and surprised, But I feel like I'm neither
said or surprised because, first of all, he's president for
four years, God willing, yeah, and there's nothing that anybody

(49:15):
can do about it, you know. But I'm also not
surprised because of a couple of reasons. I heard a
nice quip that perfectly set this whole thing in motion
when he ran in twenty sixteen against Hillary. I feel
like they I feel like it was something like Utahns

(49:36):
don't want love Trump, but they're sure not going to
vote for Hillary. And I thought that that was perfect.
I feel like the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter
day Saints. I have love and respect for some of
the prominent members that I know. They were all very
chilly on Trump. They and I feel like, and I'm

(49:59):
a Methodist here, so I'm somebody from the outside looking in,
but I feel like the Good Church maga is not
on the agenda of the church, for better or worse.
The church is very universal. I just think global because
that has a negative connotation, But I'm not don't blame them.

(50:19):
The church has to campaign, so to speak, for their
own interests, and I feel like even though Utah doesn't
necessarily mirror the church, I feel like we're very much
in the influence those Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yeah, that's for sure, Frank, I agree with you on
that one.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
It's a great take, Frank, really did I think I
broke it down? Well?

Speaker 1 (50:37):
I just think that I think the values and even
the work that the President Trump's doing should be embraced
and celebrated by whether it be l S church leaders
or members. But you know, that's why I always say,
what would Porter Rockwell do? I don't need ecclesiastic leaders
to get rough and ready. That's what That's what That's
what I'm here for, Rod, That's what I'm here to do. Okay,

(50:58):
let's go to Tory and Milkreek Tory. Thank you for
holding and welcome to the Running Greg Show.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
What say you?

Speaker 4 (51:07):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 15 (51:08):
I'm so glad you guys brought this up because this
is my biggest nightmare. I am a political refugee from California.
We have family from Utah. We absolutely love living here.
We moved here four years ago. Just I don't need
to say anymore, just the craziness, of course, and now
that we're here, we are shocked at how many you know,
Democrats are in our neighborhood, which we chose, Davis County,

(51:31):
as you know, one of the most conservative counties, and
also in Salt Lake County where we work. I'm like
the only Republican in my work, and we went to
Trump's inauguration and I can't even tell anybody at my works.

Speaker 6 (51:44):
That we wait.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Oh no, it's such a shame.

Speaker 18 (51:46):
So I'm just really hoping, I'm really hoping that you know,
what we've kind of noticed is, you know, I think
there's people who don't want to hurt other people's feelings
and so they don't say that they voted for Trump.

Speaker 15 (51:58):
It's very kind of secretive and quiet. So I just
hope it's a silent army.

Speaker 6 (52:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Well, let me tell you what, Tory. I live in
David's County. There's some really good, strong conservatives in David's County.
Don't give up, hope.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
Welcome Tory. Welcome to you, Tom So glad you're here.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
All right, boy, coming up? Power number three. The Rod
and Gregg Show is on its way. I I'm rod
arkat go up slaying turned on your microphone, turned on
the wrong one. Sorry about that.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
You like that was a mistake. You're just shadow Bannon
me on the on the Rod and Greg Show. Right here.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
We don't want to hear from you anymore today.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
I know you just cut me on.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
We're just cutting you off.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
I was talking forever one heard me.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Yeah, it is there that will never be heard. Yes,
and that is good. That is good.

Speaker 12 (52:40):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
President an executive order apparently scheduled to take effect this
week on birthright citizenship. And this is something Greg that
you and I agree with. We think it should be
done away with. But I think Donald Trump has a
huge legal battle in his effort to get rid of it.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
He does.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
I think everybody admits that this this interpretation of birthrights ship,
It's been interpreted a certain way forever. But they point
to the language you know, in the Constitution that talks
about it, and really there isn't our I think there
is a debate to be had about if you can
interpret the jurisdiction thereof differently. And we've seen countries that
have changed that in THEIRS, but that's not our constitution.

(53:18):
So we have someone who has the answer.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Yes, right, no, that's on our Newsbaker line right now
is Glenn Beaton. Glenn is a columnist at the Aspen
beat Always great to have Glenn on the show. Glenn,
how are you welcome back to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 6 (53:32):
Hey, good to be here, guys.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Thanks Glenn. You right, you know you wish Trump was
right about birthright citizenship, but you say he's probably not.
Explain if you.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
Would, Well, first let me put forth by my bona fi.

Speaker 6 (53:45):
It's okay. You guys know that I'm.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
A conserve, yes, Sarah.

Speaker 5 (53:48):
So I don't want to get a lot of hate
mail on this. I'm a hard liner. I'm a hard
liner on immigration. I think we need to close the
southern border legal immigration, legal as opposed to illegal immigration.
It's a different issue, but illegal immigration really ought to
be shut down. But that leaves the question, what do

(54:08):
we do about kids who were born in this country
of illegal mothers, illegal parents, and that's the birthright citizenship issue.
The fourteenth Amendment says they're citizens. I think it says
it pretty plainly. There is a qualifying clause there. And
as you guys pointed out by the way, the United
States is very different than almost all other countries in

(54:31):
this regard, and it's based on the historical accident of
the Fourteenth Amendment to remedy the problem of what do
we do with the slaves and the slaves children who
were not citizens? But they drafted it in such a
way that the language came out. I think i'm unfortunately broad.
It says if you're born in this country I'm paraphrasing,

(54:51):
but in a fair way, if you're born in this country,
subject to the jurisdiction of our laws, then you're a citizen.

Speaker 6 (54:59):
Period.

Speaker 5 (55:00):
Doesn't say anything about the status of your parents. I
think that means that the children who were born here
could be last year, last month, or ten.

Speaker 6 (55:09):
Or fifteen years ago. Some of these kids have.

Speaker 5 (55:12):
Never been any other country other than the United States.
I think they're probably citizens. There's an argument to be
made on this subject to qualifier, but I don't.

Speaker 6 (55:22):
Think it's a very good one.

Speaker 5 (55:24):
It's generally been thought for as long as the Fourteenth
Amendment has been around that it comes out the way
I say it, these kids are citizens.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
And you point out in your article that even the
even the phraseology of subject to jurisdiction was really was
pointed towards or the legislative intent would have been for
Native Americans and the and the jurisdiction or the reservations
that they were on, which was sovereign.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
Maybe not.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
So you're saying that that that the language there had
a specific purpose. But my question is, when you're subject
to the laws, there had to be some contemplation that
the laws at the time this Fourteenth min was passed,
We're not going to be the only laws ever passed,
wouldn't Why would this being subject to the laws that
Congress would pass?

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Why would that?

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Why can't that be if the Congress decided to change
the law, that that citizenship would still have to be
subject to the laws that Congress would pass even currently?

Speaker 3 (56:23):
Why? Why? Why? What's wrong with that? Rationale.

Speaker 5 (56:26):
I think that's a bootstrap approach to Congress changing the
Constitution by congressional legislation, and you can't do that. You
know the Constitution. The fourteenth Amendment is an amendment to
the Constitution, so it's a part of the Constitution. Changing
at this point would be a hard thing to do.

(56:47):
It requires a vote of Congress, and it requires gratification
by three quarters of the states.

Speaker 6 (56:55):
That's thirty eight states. That's not going to happen.

Speaker 5 (56:58):
It's obviously not going to happen in the timeframe that
we would like it to. But I don't think it's
going to happen anyway.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
So, Gwen is the issue, and you referred to this
the sentence in the Constitution, the amendment, which says subject
to the jurisdiction thereof that's the key. So if you're
in a country, either legally or illegally, the argument would
be that you're still subject to that country's laws, no
matter if you're here legally or illegally. Is that what

(57:25):
it comes down to?

Speaker 6 (57:27):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 5 (57:29):
When this kid is born in the North bank of
the Rio Grande, or he's born in suburban Salt Lake City,
wherever he is subject to our laws. Now, not everybody
in that situation is for example, diplomats. Diplomats have diplomatic community.
It's generally not appreciated. But if a diplomat or his

(57:49):
family commits a crime, we can't arrest them. They have
diplomatic community. Same thing as it was pointed out earlier
at the time the Amendment was passed about the Indian Reservations.
Indians living on the reservations correct myself Native Americans, but
back then they were called Indians living on the reservations

(58:10):
were not subject to the United States laws. The reservation
was its own entity, its own sovereign state, and they
were subject to the laws of that sovereign state.

Speaker 6 (58:20):
So that's the purpose.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
I'm pretty confident and most scholars would agree with me
on this, and two federal judges so far have agreed
with me on this, including one who was a Bush appointee.
That was the purpose of this qualifying clause. I think
they're trying to blow it up into something that it's
really not. I sympathized with their efforts because I think

(58:42):
it does leave us with a real problem, but I
don't think it's going to work now.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
I'm not arguing with you. You've got a big brain.
I'm not even challenging it, but I'm just food for thought.
I just want to throw some concepts out there just
so that I can hear what I need to say
next when someone brings it to me.

Speaker 6 (58:58):
So he's gonna unplug your I phone?

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Yeah, I know it's yeah, what do you got a
spy in here?

Speaker 3 (59:05):
What are you doing? How does he know that?

Speaker 1 (59:08):
But here's my question, So I think it was was
it the legislative intent for this to happen as soon
as you walk over to the border illegally that that
child is is legally here? Was the legislative intent meant
to deal with slavery and the issues that came from that?
If it was, If that was the legislative intent, why
would jurisdiction thereof not without changing the constitution?

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Why wouldn't it apply?

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Because if you're if someone wants to extend that definition
past the issue of slavery and how we define the
people that were here in slaves and are now and
then we're citizens, why wouldn't you be able to have
the jurisdiction include the laws of the land In twenty
twenty five.

Speaker 5 (59:51):
Well, legislative intent arguments are very problematic.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
I think I'm a recovery legislate legislative.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
I'm a recovering public servant slash legislator, So this is
hitting home to me.

Speaker 6 (01:00:03):
Then you know this, You know this.

Speaker 5 (01:00:06):
Legislators often get up and they make a little speech.
It says, in effect, what we mean by this phrase
is that, and what we mean by that phrases this
to establish this history of legislative intent so that the
law gets interpreted in the.

Speaker 6 (01:00:20):
Way that they want.

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
And then another legislator gets up and says the opposite.
So you have to be a little bit careful with
the legislative intent arguments. I think now, I do think
that our current situation was not contemplated by the drafters
or the ratifiers of the fourteenth Amendment one hundred and
some years ago. They never thought that we would be

(01:00:44):
so stupid as to elect an adult for a president
who was half senile and one hundred percent corrupt, who
would open the southern borders and allow tens of millions
of people over into the United States so that they
could have children.

Speaker 6 (01:01:02):
You know, there's a huge problem.

Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
There's some there's millions of people in this situation now
who are the children of the legal immigrants, and they
were born in the United States. It's not a little
it's not a little obscure problem. It's a huge problem.
And you know, my heart goes out to them. They
didn't do anything wrong. Their parents did something big time wrong.

(01:01:23):
My heart doesn't go out to them at all. But
these kids did nothing wrong. They didn't choose their womb,
they didn't choose their mother, and they didn't choose where
to be born.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
That's true, Glenn. Even though you wrote this article, Greg,
and I still believe you're a good conservative, so we
won't make fun of you anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
I'm with you. I wish Trump were right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
I'm still going to burn that candle till I get
told no.

Speaker 6 (01:01:47):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Interesting all right, Glenn, Thank you, Glenna columnist that the
absent beaties over there in beautiful Colorado and enjoying, uh,
spending a few minutes with us here on the Roden
Greg Show. More coming up. Just a reminder, we will
be on the road tomorrow. That's where we have Moterland
Sports RV Center, and we may have a surprise or
two to give away tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
Yes, yeah, I tell you, We'll see we'll see this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
We aren't going to tell you, but you will do this.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
You will be you will want to listen to what
we have.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Oh, we've got some goodies. These are rare, very these
are very very rare. I mean, you get one of
these folks, people will spot you a mile away.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
I circumvented all corporate protocol for this. Yes, it's special.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Oh, you you are such a Oh you're a rebel.
All right, let's talk about you know. I don't want
to play a lot of the sound bites from the
Trump Musk interview last night. I thought it was pretty interesting,
but he repeated something he said, what was it last
week when he was winning the Oval office with Trump
and his little boy, and he talked about the purpose
of DOGE and what they're trying to do.

Speaker 17 (01:02:58):
So what we're doing here is one of the biggest
functions of the DOSE team is just making sure that
the presidential executive orders are actually carried out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
And this is I just want to plant This is a.

Speaker 17 (01:03:09):
Very important thing because the president is the elected representative
of the people, so it's representing the will of the people.
And if the bureaucracy is fighting the will of the
people and preventing the present the president from implementing what
the people want. Then what we live in is a
bureaucracy and not a democracy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
You know, Greg, I'm still trying to figure out why
the Democrats are standing up for the bureaucracy.

Speaker 5 (01:03:36):
I know is a.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Contribute to their campaigns because they vote for him. Like
you wouldn't believe, I mean, the American when you say bureaucracy,
you go yay.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
I would have said, I would say that's a pejorative.
I never see fight for the bureaucracy, more bureaucracy. If
just if we just had more bureaucracy, the world would
be such a better place. Where is the bureaucracy in our.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Life when we need it most?

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
Yes, bureaucracy, that's what we need. Yeah, that's the guiding light.
That's the city on the hill, the bureaucratic one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Yeah, come on, and the Democrats, and the Democrats actually think, Greg,
they're going to win defending the bureaucracy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
If the Democrats fail, it might be the end of
American bureaucracy.

Speaker 11 (01:04:18):
Our bureaucracy really is in fundamental peril.

Speaker 9 (01:04:21):
The foundations of American bureaucracy under attack. They want to
destroy our bureaucracy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
We are a bureaucracy and danger.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
We're watching an election where.

Speaker 7 (01:04:29):
People are on the ballot openly advocating the end of bureaucracy.
That's what Republicans are doing, attacking bureaucracy, attempting to destroy bureaucracy,
and they're doing it with glee.

Speaker 15 (01:04:41):
This is the end of bureaucracy in America.

Speaker 5 (01:04:44):
When will America stop sleepwalking towards the end of bureaucracy.

Speaker 7 (01:04:48):
It's Democrats versus as Bill Crystal says, the end of bureaucracy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
We are essentially, as Neil put it, one vote away
from the end of bureaucocracy as we know.

Speaker 8 (01:05:01):
I think our bureaucracy and the stability of that bureaucracy
is really the thing on the ballot and really so important.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Are they listening to themselves? Greg, I mean, they're they're
standing up and defending bureaucracy them.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
This surreal it is in this version, this particular version
of bureaucracy, with what we're finding by way of waste, fraud,
and abuse, it's grown a little. If there was some
version of bureaucracy, someone could show me. But this one
is unchecked bureaucracy. Which you know. I'm pretty sure I
think we're going to speak to our next guest, but

(01:05:36):
I'm pretty sure that the founding fathers thought that bureaucracy,
unchecked growing was a threat to actually this country, this
democratically elected republic that we live in. And yet you
just heard that montage of every one of these insane
regime media guys just panicking over the death of bureaucracy.

(01:05:58):
I mean, what are they doing. I guess it's fine.
I guess we let them go. We let them keep
doing this. I don't know who's buying this, but I
have never used the term bureaucracy as a positive.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
No, I don't. I can't think of anybody who as
we having a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
I know what we could do. Let's create more bureaucracy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
There we go. Let's create bigger government. Let's create more commissions,
more committees.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
I could just create more government, more bureaucracy. Life is better.
I guess they're being intellectually honest. They've always believed this.
I guess they're just coming out and saying we got
to save bureaucracy. I mean, what did they think that
the swamp was if that wasn't synonymous as bureaucracy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
They unchecked growing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Two trillion a year of deficit spending bureaucracy two billion
to Stacy Abrams and account that had a hundred bucks
in it on twenty twenty four.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Bureaucracy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Come on, this is they are so out of touch
crap and the American people. I hope the American people
are listening to this attention there of this and just
laughing as to what these people are saying. They're defending
government bureaucracy. How many of you out there, Greg, I mean,
you're a business owner. You've had to deal with bureaucracy

(01:07:13):
in the forums and the policies. You can't do this,
You can't do that. Who said I can't? We did
because we're the government.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
I'm telling you I have never seen the layers and
layers of government and the committees and all of that.
People go, oh, thank goodness, we have another committee.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
Oh thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
If only we had a design review committee to look
at all our homes to see if they actually are nice.
Need a we need a design review. We need more bureaucracy.
Can we just create more because then we would have
a better life?

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Who says any of that other than these people inside
this beltway, and these Democrats have been living off and
plundering the public treasury for so long they don't know
up from down.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
They literally don't know up from down at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Folks, when they say we're getting of the bureaucracy, what
they're saying is what all of you voted for, getting
rid of the swamp, and that's what they want to
get rid of. All right, more coming up on the
Rotting greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio one O five
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missed any part of the show today, you can always
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there's a you can You can put our podcast on
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Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
Then you can go ahead put your eighties track on
after that if you want in.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Your eighties music good stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Put canter S first as a station, then put the
Rotting Gregg Show podcast, and then hit your eighties.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
You know, I was thinking about what they should do too.
iHeartRadio offers a twenty four to seven newscast and you
can get the news in about five minutes, and they
updated every hour. Put that on your button you want
a quick updated on the news. Can't listen to it? Yeah,
they do a really good joke.

Speaker 6 (01:08:53):
Is it liberal?

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
No, it's not liberal checking called twenty four to seven news.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
No, I hear.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
It's pre big company. I mean we are very big.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
I try to be a good influence, but you know,
sometimes it's a little big.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
I can't handle it. My footprint can't be felt everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Yeah, that's true, that's true. Well, we before the break,
we played that montage of Democrats out there defending them bureaucracy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
If we just had more bureaucracy, it's a secret.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Now now now, all of a sudden, because they are
greg they are grasping it straws, trying to figure out
how to deal with Donald Trump right now, right so
here they are attacking Trump for not doing something about
the price of eggs, attacking Trump for not doing something
about the economy. He's been in office one month today
today marks the one month anniversary of the Donald Trump administration.

(01:09:42):
Donald two point zero, I know they're they're doing it,
so joining us on our newsmaker line to talk about
this is a fellow pittsburghen.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
What's yer? Well, in Pittsburgh they use the word y ends.
It's kind of like it's like textans say y'all, we say.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Yans going over there, over there? Am I?

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
Yeah, there's there's pet.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
There's strong opinions about Pittsburgh accents and some are some
are a little negative, but I haven't liked it. But anyway,
In insers from the Burg that he's he's from the
Burg like I am. So there's a kinship.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Immediately, we're talking about Paul king Gore, he is an
author political science professor at Grove City College, talking about
what does the price of eggs right now have to
do with Donald Trump? Paul, welcome to the show. What
do you make of all of this?

Speaker 11 (01:10:32):
Yeah, well, and specifically Rod and the price of eggs
right And So I'm sitting there at a restaurant in
Fort Wayne, Indiana at night evening and they had CNN
on the on the TV set and I see this
headline about Trump betraying a promise to lower the price
of eggs, and I almost spit my food all over
the table when I saw that, I thought, well, at

(01:10:52):
that point, the guy had been president for about two
and a half weeks, and they're angry at him for
not lowering the price of eggs yet.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
I mean, and at that point, I mean.

Speaker 11 (01:11:02):
The whole country and world is watching this daritable human
cyclone named Donald Trump, who did more in two weeks
than probably FDRs first hundred days of not FDR's twelve years.
Everybody's marveling that all that he's done, and he's CNN
complaining that he hasn't lower the price of eggs yet,
of all things. And by the way, I mean, part
of the reason for that is there's a bird flu

(01:11:24):
that's going on right now with chickens. And but but
even if there wasn't, I mean, it just comes off
as petty for the for the for the media to
focus on something like that. I mean, what do they
think Trump has godlike powers or something. I thought that's
what they thought Trump supporters thought about about Trump. So yeah,

(01:11:45):
it's way overly picking it. Gee, give the man a break.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
So what What's what's otherworldly about listening to CNN and
others in the regime media is that they got three
there's three positions. One they didn't give a whit about
any inflation or cost of groceries or anything for four
years during Biden two, they do say, well, why are
egg stool expensive?

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
It's been twenty minutes, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
But then their very next sentence is he's moving too
fast too, this is too rapid, like this is just chaotic,
It's just so fast. Do you think that the average American?
I just really believe that the Republican Party has shifted
to just this everyday Americans common sense. Do people hear
the contradiction in CNN? Are they catching it or is

(01:12:25):
it just are they tuned out? Or is it going
over their head? What do you think happens when CNN
just says profoundly bipolar almost messages and observations the way
they do.

Speaker 11 (01:12:37):
Well, I think Ray GiB most people are tuning them out. However,
and I talk about this in my article for The
American Spectator. The next day after I heard that, I
got in the car, turned on Sirius XM radio and
turn on the Patriot Channel, and some liberal who call
it into a show is losing his mind over the
price of eggs under Donald Trump. Okay, all right, so

(01:13:00):
so the O there's kind of a clique or a
group of them that you know, exchange talking points on
social media, read the same sources, watch the same thing,
and and so for those people, they could lose their
minds over the fact that the price of eggs isn't
down yet. But but but I think that's I think
that's a minority of people, and and I think it's

(01:13:20):
a lot of people within a kind of smaller faction
on the political left that a lot of the rest
of the country is at the point now where they say, Okay,
you sit there and complain about the price of eggs,
but we're going to go on and you know, push
aggressively ahead and change the country. And what Donald Trump
has done in less than a month in power is right.

(01:13:43):
I'll tell you guys, I never thought i'd see anything
like it. I'm a I'm a Ronald Reagan scholar. Reagan
had major changes in foreign policy over the course of
eight years. But I don't see I haven't seen any
president in my lifetime or true, you'd have to go
back to FDR.

Speaker 6 (01:14:02):
Well, you've seen this many changes this quickly under one president.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
Yeah, I would agree with you, Paul. I think both
Greg and I would You mentioned a moment ago. You
called this attack on the price of eggs petty. It
may be petty, but what else do they have to
attack right now, Paul? I mean, what are they going
to go after Donald Trump for other than the price
of eggs?

Speaker 6 (01:14:22):
Yeah, that's exactly right.

Speaker 11 (01:14:24):
And what further looks petty about it is that, as
Greg alluded to, I don't remember them complaining about the
price of eggs two or three years ago, right, Yeah,
So of all things to suddenly zero in on that also,
I mean, it's related to the overall issue of inflation,
but the fact that in a story like that, they

(01:14:45):
would even dig a little deeper and go into the
fact of what's going on with the bird flu that's
affecting the price of eggs, and just a general idea
that you would expect anyone it was, chief executive of
the country within two weeks to be able to unilaterally
lower the price of eggs. It's just stupid and and
it and and and it' and it looks very petty.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
So here's my here's my concern. Though we got Congress, okay,
they won on the cotails, they preserve their majorities. Republicans
did really on the strength of the President of Trump's
campaign in election. But they got a budget to pass.
Is the budget going to reflect the savings and the
and the fraud waste the doge and is discovering and
the Trump's administrations finding in the departments. And then we

(01:15:29):
got a tax increase coming. I hate it described as
as an extension of a tax cut. We have no
tax cut. Whatever the government's getting they're already getting from us.
We have no cuts coming. We only have a massive
tax increase if they don't in fact extend it. So
will Congress do its bit because at some point the
cost of eggs will come into the conversation. If we

(01:15:50):
don't have a Congress acting on the good work that
Trump's doing. Is that Is that a worry for you?

Speaker 6 (01:15:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:15:56):
I don't know, Greg. I mean, I think with elt
what Elon Musk is doing a dose and the others.

Speaker 6 (01:16:01):
I mean, they really.

Speaker 11 (01:16:02):
Are uncovering just an absolute massive amount of waste, and
even aside from just the specific dollar numbers, and in
some cases we're talking about not just billions, but trillions
of dollars. When you look at some of the anecdotal
examples of what they're finding at places like USAID and
and those things are getting out there, and because people

(01:16:24):
you know no longer get their news just from CNN
or the New York Times, but they're getting them from
all sorts of other platforms and even podcasts and even
social media. These different outrages and abuses that Musk and
others are finding and flagging, they're becoming stories, and they're
becoming headlines and so and I think pretty much every

(01:16:46):
American you know, it kind of knows intuitively that, you know,
those people in Washington just spend too much money and
all sorts of ridiculous things, and everybody knows that there's
waste at all sorts of different levels. So I think
Congress will enact a lot of that, enact a lot
of those cuts. I don't think taxes are going to
go up or down one way or the other. How

(01:17:07):
many federal income tax rates are there now, five or six.
I think the top rates maybe thirty seven percent, so
that wouldn't change much anyway. It's not like when Reagan
came in and the top rate was seventy percent, they
could cut it down to twenty eight. So I don't
see many big changes there. But I think most people
generally approve of this investigation in some of these expose

(01:17:32):
a's of massive government waste that Trump and his team
are uncovering.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
Right now, Hey man, it's blown my mind. It's like
a fourth branch and it's they're just plumbing the treasury.
It's it is really unbelievable.

Speaker 11 (01:17:45):
Yeah, yeah, right, and they're exposing the plunderers, right, yes,
I mean yeah, it was Frederick Bostiot that taught talked about,
you know, government staff plunder and and when you really
see things like USI aid, you see how they've become
kind of giant, you know, kind of ideological redistribution schemes
for the powers that be in Washington, and you know,

(01:18:07):
from the liberal liberal progressive democratic wing to reward friends
and allies, even publications like Politico. I mean, if my magazine,
The American Spectator got nine million dollars a year, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:18:21):
What we could do with that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
It's it's unbelievable.

Speaker 11 (01:18:24):
And most people, frankly, are disgusted and yet also.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Not surprised Paul king Gore joining us, So of course
Paul is a good friend, really connected to Greg. Today
you were two Pittsburghen's that what you're calling? All right?
More coming up final segment of the Rod and Greg
Show right here on Talk Radio one oh five nine
kN R S have a special little gift for you, folks.
You better keep on bear listen tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
It's good.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
I can't say what it is, that's all right. I yeah,
I mentioned yesterday or two days ago that there it
was the I think the fourth year anniversary of rushl
in Bad's death. He's been gone that last miss that guy, right, yeah,
I do big time. Well, somebody found this clip of Rush.
He was addressing a turning point event young people back
in twenty nineteen. Now, as you listen to this, I

(01:19:13):
want you to substitute he refers to climate change. I
want you to substitute the word climate change when Rush
mentions it and say USAID or USA. Listen to this
and see if it relates to what is going on
in this country today.

Speaker 19 (01:19:27):
Many of you weren't alive the nineteen ninety five budget bill.
During that time, the Republicans are being accused of starving
children because of budget cuts in the school lunch program.

Speaker 6 (01:19:38):
There weren't any cuts, never.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
Reductions of the rate of growth.

Speaker 6 (01:19:42):
The Democrats had.

Speaker 19 (01:19:43):
A bunch of twelve year olds junior high school students
writing letters to Republicans in Congress. Please, I can't learn
when I'm starving. Please, I can't learn when I'm hungry.
And the media is covering missus though it's legitimate and
it was a a hoax as the whole climate climate
change contains every issue the left once in their bid

(01:20:08):
to transform this country. So please, I know it's susceptible.

Speaker 6 (01:20:13):
They're scaring you. They're making you.

Speaker 19 (01:20:14):
Think the planet's not going to support life in twenty years.

Speaker 6 (01:20:18):
It's bunk, folks.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Miss here on that guy every day he calls it
out and that's that's five years ago now, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
And climate change you can you can take that usaid
and it's the same every issue they care about. They
have all rushed into that. That's so called organization, and
it's everywhere. It's not just foreign, it's it's everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Now, before we go, we have another John Kennedy moment.
We love this Republican senator from the great state of
the Louisiana. But John Kennedy had something interesting to say
about what's going on right now.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
It's a message to his Republican colleagues.

Speaker 20 (01:20:53):
Look, we just need to stay calm, We need to
stay calm as a as a Hindu cap and just
go about our work and get our bills past, and
let the democrats be the democrats, and so forth's working.
You never interfere with your opponent when he's kicking his
own ass.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
Stay as calm as a Hindu calf. That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
Who was that of us?

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
Music?

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
That was in part of my clip. I don't even
know where that came from.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
Came from somewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
Yeah, it's over. We're over tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
We're on the road at MotorLand Art mot MotorLand Sports Art.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
Yes, I'm visiting us starting and for it we have gifts.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
Yep. Be listening.

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