The Rod and Greg Show: Fallout from Weekend Protests; Utah Public School Absenteeism Problems

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, this is going to be as E. Ray and
I we both know this will be a three week,
one week vacation for Rod. But you know what I
told him this way before he left. I said, I
think this we're calling the shot, and he thinks I'm wrong.
He's gonna try and prove us wrong. So we'll see
when he gets back. But in the meantime, folks, you
have me as your host. I'll be holding down the fort.
I'm in front of this NASA like board. I got
it mastered. I know what I'm doing, I think, And

(00:22):
we're going to start the show today talking about this
crazy weekend. The timing of being able to host this
show on my own with a weekend that we've had
is I don't know. It seems like Rod always misses
the big stuff. He wasn't here when President Trump called.
Remember when President Trump called the show during caucus night
in twenty four he wasn't here. But this weekend has

(00:46):
so many layers to it, so many events. We have,
the No Kings event or protests that occurred in Salt
Lake City and the events around that we have nationally.
What happened with No Kings and some chaos at went
on there. We have this horrific story which I want
to get into great detail during the show, of this tragic,

(01:06):
horrific nightmare straight out of a horror show, murder homicide
of the Democrat leader of the Minnesota State House. They
were perish power sharing in the state House. There was
not a majority. They bothe so he had two speakers. Basically,
she was the speaker of the Democrats of the Minnesota
State House. She and her husband were just tragically murdered.

(01:30):
And also that same evening, this lunatic shot a Minnesota
state senator and his wife, and that man hunt concluded
last evening when they were able to catch him. So
he's in custody right now. But that is a story
that has more questions and answers, but we're going to
dig into some of those details here on the program.

(01:50):
We've got this Westfest in West Valley City. Three people
killed during this yesterday, including I think an eight month old,
I think a little toddler was killed. The comments from
Mayor Menenhall that after the shooting and someone bystander at
the No King's rally in Salt Lake City dying saying

(02:12):
that this isn't us boy, I wish it wasn't. I
think that there's been some unbelievably strong leadership shown by
the Salt Lake Chief of Police. I think the State
of Utah, our Department of Public Safety, even the National Guard,
we're on call and on ready to go. I think
we're even present around the Capitol. A lot happening, So
I think a lot of leadership was exercised. I truly,

(02:33):
truly told you Friday that I did not believe we
would see violence, and I did not believe we would
see anything close to what happened in May. And we
didn't see what we saw in May of twenty twenty
when they were turning over police cars, burning them, destroying
public and private property, and people being harmed. But we
did have a homicide. And you got to say to
yourself at some point, especially collectively, when you look at

(02:53):
all the events that rolled out this weekend, I think
the Democrats, I think people left of center are gravitating
to political violence.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
I'll say it.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
I think that there's there's there's loans everywhere without regard
to political persuasion. But I see too much money, too much,
too many different groups, well funded groups, but overlapping in
their attempt to cause chaos, to tear down our our
found out on our foundational institutions of this nation, and

(03:21):
they're coming together. And I think that unfortunately in Salt
Lake City, what happened there, what happened in West Valley City,
it is turning out to be who we are. Sadly,
I don't even want to admit it, but you can't
look at what happened this weekend. And with all of
the attention this time, nobody was caught flat footed. There
was so much attention to public safety this weekend here

(03:42):
in the state of Utah especially, and to see these
homicides still occur, it's it's inexcusable, and it's there's something
going on and we are living through it right now
in real time.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
So we're going to talk.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
We have a couple of guests coming on the program
today to talk specifically about this. We have a gentleman
that's coming on at the next in the next segment,
Michael Letz. He's the president and founder of invest USA.
It's a nonprofit that provides bulletproof vest for law enforcement
helps law enforcement agencies across the country. He's gonna We're
gonna talk to him about what's happening in this country
and some of the things he thinks can help simmer

(04:17):
things down. Later this hour, we're going to speak with
Charles Libson. He he's a he's a contributor of the
of the of the Spectator. This publication is one followed
by many. It's a public policy publication. He's a professor
emeritus of International Politics, University of Chicago. He is the
first this is the first article I've read. I keep

(04:38):
asking this question over and over, and you've heard me.
Why are the Democrats not pivoting?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Why?

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Why aren't they doing what we saw Bill Clinton do
when he saw, you know, the country did not want
to vote for a Michael Ducacus and voted for George
George Herbert Walker Bush. Why did he become a more
conservative blue dog Democrat. Why in times where you've seen
the people of this country recoil away from liberalism, socialism,

(05:04):
why aren't the Democrats pivoting as well, at least in word,
even if they don't mean it in their hearts. Why
are they not being more mack of alien, I would
think in their political decisions. Well, when we speak with
Charles Lipson, he's going to explain the logic behind this
and why there is no pivot and why they're being
on the wrong side the eighty twenty issues where the

(05:24):
Democrats right now find themselves on a myriad of issues,
and we'll go through them. Where they're on the twenty
percent side, they're doubling down and tripling down on that side,
and they're actually they're creating coalitions of twenty percent issues
on their side and really engaging in these riots we've
seen in La No Kings protests throughout the country, and
they're not kidding, and there's at least an explanation that

(05:47):
makes some semblance of sense. I don't agree with that.
I don't subscribe with what they're doing, but I think
he has done the best job of explaining what's really
happening in front of us and why common sense Americans
really don't want any part of the Democrats right now,
and in terms of what they're doing and what they're saying,
you can contrast that. Okay, And I've got a son

(06:09):
that's out there in DC right now. He's doing an
internship and he's kind of given me the play by
play in Washington about what he's saying, and this son
of mine he's not been overly engaged in politics as
his father has been over the years as a recovering
public servant. But he's not ignorant to it, but he
just wasn't overly interested. He's at Utah State, he's getting
ready to graduate here soon, but he's seeing all this

(06:31):
with fresh eyes. And he was very excited to be
part of in the or watch the celebration, the parade,
in the celebration of our United States Armies two hundred
and fiftieth anniversary or birthday. And he was sending me
videos and pictures from that, the events in Washington, d C.
Of which there was no violence, of which there was

(06:54):
people of every age and every race, color and creed
coming together. In the pictures at least that I saw
of people coming and in a moment of pride in
our country. And I will tell you that from what
I saw from afar out here in Utah, watching it
on social media, but then getting the play by play
from my son, I think this has done wonders for

(07:14):
the UH, for the morale of our armed our men
and women in the military. I think this has done
wonders for recruitment. I think this is doing wonders for
people that are wondering, is our country still the lone superpower?
Are we going to survive some of the violence and
this uprising and this social Uh the socialists and leftists
who seem to be really trying to create chaos and

(07:36):
fear to compel our behavior.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Who's going to win?

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Well, I think there was a real contrast over what
we what I just described as the violent moments of
this weekend and then that celebration in Washington.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
D c Uh.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
It's it's unmistakable. And if you look at the crowds.
I got to tell you this, and what Rod I've
been on him about this lately. It seems like it's
all the boomers. It's like some time bomb went off
from their head. They went to Woodstock, they were all
hippies and crazies. Then they became adults and kind of,
you know, did their thing, and all of a sudden,

(08:09):
now they're just white haired and nuts. I've got pictures
of these No King rallies, and I swear to you
they're majority boomers. I mean it, They're just crazy. And
then you look at the parade. I see young people,
I see old Now. Look, I know there's probably young people.
And I'm sure the crowds that the No King rallies
aren't all strictly boomers. But I think if you grab

(08:31):
two random photos of what the parade and the celebration
of our US Army in Washington, d C. And you
took random photos from these No King protests, I think
you're going to see different demographics of Americans at these
two at these two events, two different events. So that's
a question in my head. I don't understand why we

(08:54):
were seeing some of the protests we are and what's
the irony that, you know, the party it's had, Chuck
Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, all these people that been there
for thirty years, forty years, fifty years are screaming no
Kings to a President Trump who's been there, who's had
what one term at four years and he's a year
he's not even a year into his next term.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Hello, it doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
So we're going to explore all these issues and more
here on the Rodding Greg Show as we continue on
on this Monday. So when we come back, it will
be Michael Lets with invest USA. He's a former member
of law enforcement. We're going to talk to him about
this violence when we come back.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
So you want to hang on.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
It's a Rodding Greg show on Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine can arrests Michael Letts. He is the
founder CEO of invest USA. They work. It's a national nonprofit.
They work to grassroots nonprofit organization. It helps hundreds of communities,
provide thousands of bulletproofsts for police forces, for educational public regulations, sponsorships,

(09:53):
fundraising programs, all the works. Mister, Let's thank you for
joining us on the program the privilege.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Greg. Thank you so much for what you're doing to
help your community know the truth.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Boy, I'll tell you the headline and what we're going
to talk about. I just went with our audience. I
just went through the litany of violence that we've seen
in our own state, homicide, shootings that happened over this weekend,
what's happening across this country nationally, just this weekend. And
then I come across a piece from you that says
shootings and chaos, democrats use violence to derail deportations. Honestly,

(10:31):
tell us what is going on right now in this country?
What happened over this weekend, and what does that say
about the state of things in the United States in
your mind.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Well, very clearly, Greg is where we're at as a
country is you know, they have been for some time
trying to bring America to his niece. Quite frankly, they've
had a hard time doing that because of America is so
heavily harmed as individual citizens. Hard to get rid of
government when the citizens are in visually armed. So they've

(11:01):
been looking for ways to do it. And now, of
course with the Trump's administration trying to undo the mess
that was in the last four years of just bringing
in millions of unvetted both cartel livers terrorists, we do
we have a great terrorist organization that's been put together
across those country that have started to unfold, it starting

(11:22):
to show itself. We've got child sex traffickers, We've got
murderers and rapists from prisons all across the world that
have been left here. And so we as a country
have no choice but to vet know who's here. We
can decide later on the debate about if you have
no criminal background or you're picking strawberries that nobody else

(11:43):
wants to take, whether the extend of work us it
to you or not, that's not the issue. The issue is,
quite frankly, determining the safety and security of the American people.
We have seen that being progressed with additional crimes, killings
and murderers, etc. Across the country. Buy these thugs. Quite frankly,
now it's become insurrectionist rioters who are determined that they

(12:04):
are going to defy the very law that we as
a nation have, and that is the law of making
sure we're glad to have immigrants. You just have to
do it the right way. And so because of that,
now you've got the money behind it. When you take
a look Greg, where the finance is coming, and we
have mapped it out huge portion of it. It's coming

(12:24):
from CCP, the Comedy Chinese Party, of course, you know
it's coming from Venezuela, is providing logysical support through the
trend that wed a game and that's now spread all
across the country. We have NGOs. If you're at our
it's our tax dollars that Congress has been given to
these NGOs to fund these clauses. A slap in the

(12:45):
face for you not how to pay for our own demids.
And then of course you've got very wealthy liberal activists
such as Sorrows, but as Christy Walter from the Walmart
Foundation at All, who are pouring hundreds of millions of
dollars in so besides you did all the millions of
dollars at you and unquotec fits.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
We're speaking with Michael Lets, founder CEO of invest USA,
works with law enforcement, helps fundraise grassroots for our law
enforcement members of law enforcement.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Let me ask you this.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
We've tracked this money, We've we've talked about this on
the program about the different sources of funds, the CCP
money that's going in to create the unrest in the
LA riots, No Kings rallies and protests really coming from
maybe a different funding source, but still wanting to really
destroy our foundational, our institutional foundation. Let me ask you

(13:36):
what they're trying to say on Monday morning is that
the No King's Rally was one of the largest rallies
of Americans protesting their government and nation history. And what
the outcome of That's what we're supposed to assume from
that is that nobody wants what Trump, President Trump is
doing to continue. Do you really think that President Trump

(13:57):
and his victory in November that people are against what
it is that Trump is trying to do in terms
of getting rid of the illegal immigrants that have flooded
this country, particularly over the last four years of Biden.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Not even close.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Greg. Let's put this in perspective. First of all, giving
them that there are a million nationwide to protest, and
you're really stretching it to do that. They weren't a million,
but we'll give them for right now. That is less
than one half of one percent of the population of America.
You know, they quickness season to forget million man marches

(14:30):
on DC et cetera, et cetera in one location, But
they crow about spreading a million people over two thousand
protests across the country and think that's huge of that significant,
it's not. If you take a look at the protesters,
which we did all over the weekends across the country
helping the Trump administration, you look at whose participating. Here's

(14:51):
so it's sad about it.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
Great.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
You have a lot of elderly people who quite frankly,
have heard the mainstream media that the country has been
taken over by the authoritarian by you know, king a thug,
and they're scared and they don't know what to do
when they get out there, they don't know why they're there.
Then you have a portion of paid agitators and rioters

(15:15):
who are doing nothing but committing felonious acts. They try
to continue to disturb the crowd. They're the ones that
we need to make sure are in handcuffs. We make
sure we get them deported and moved out of this country.
They're not citizen, than if they are, to make sure
they face the jury for the crimes are committee. That's
what you really see occurring.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
That's what's going on.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Great so and you just touched on it. They use fear, Okay.
They are trying to compel behavior from the American people
through fear that if the chaos will stop, if they
just stop, if you'll just stop what you're doing, if
you do what we tell you to do, then then
things will calm down, which all that means is if
you keep complying with them.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
But the couple.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
What changes that is that President Trump's not afraid and
he helps bring courage into this equation. So you see
this battle between the two people trying to create fear.
I've seen the interviews where they don't know even what
they're protesting, like you just pointed out. But then you
have Trump, President Trump, who's bringing courage and vision to
this country and people are energized by that. So what's

(16:16):
your prediction. Where are we going in the next few
months or in the next year. Who's going to win
and how is it going to roll out?

Speaker 2 (16:21):
In your mind, there's.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
No question we're going to win. And let me tell
you why American people are disgusted with the time of behavior.
You're trying to tell me that's a peaceful protest to
throw a brick through a police cruiser and kill the
police driver in it. There's no cause and no rule
for that in this country. And so quite frankly, the
president has double he should do. That is greed saw

(16:45):
on the Insurrectionist Act gives full permission of all the
resources of the United States government to put an end
to these riots, including using military force. We've put that
out over the weekend. Quite frankly, I think we did
a great job of containing it. What you're going to
see now is we're going to we use all of
our intelligence services and our capabilities. What does that mean.

(17:06):
We've got pictures of everybody, give us a little time.
We're going to track down those who are breaking the law.
You're going to see a knock on your door over
the next sixty to ninety days, You're going to see
a lot of people going to jail. We will break
the back of there's an attempt to overthrow our government,
and we're going to make sure that freedom and liberty
reign for years to come.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Michael Letz, thank you for your work. Thank you for
joining us on the program. That's that's music to my years,
and I know our listeners as well. Thank you for
joining us.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
God bless you, God bless America. Keep telling the truth.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
We're on the winning side sure well.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Michael Letts, founder and CEO of invest USA, working with
our men and women in law enforcement across the United States. Look, folks,
we got more to come after this break. You're going
to want to hang on. We're going to talk about
why the Democrats are obsessed and only want to stay
on the twenty percent side of eighty twenty percent issues.
A very interesting interview coming out after this break. You're

(18:01):
listening to Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine can rest.
We have got a power pack show and it will
continue on. We just got we just finished a discussion
about the lawlessness and in the riots, and the attempt
by many to create fear among the general population, and
what Trump's really doing as a counterbalance to that. Our
next guest has probably put all of those those items,

(18:24):
those those facts that we're seeing into a digestible, for me,
comprehensible explanation of why Democrats are just and leftists are
just gravitating to these twenty percent issues while eighty percent
of America shakes her head and doesn't want to be
any part of it, does it? Why is there no pivot?

(18:46):
Joining us on the show. Charles Lipson, He's the author contributor.
He's an author contributor of The Spectator, also Professor emeritus
of International Politics from the University of Chicago. Great article
or topic, dems on wrong side of age twenty issues.
Welcome to the to the program, mister Lipson.

Speaker 6 (19:04):
It's great to talk to you.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Greg.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
So I in the most diccinct way, I have been
talking to our audience, and I've been saying, where's the pivot?

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Why do they not? Where are the people going so
I can lead them?

Speaker 1 (19:15):
There is the even if it were for Machavelian reasons,
there is no pivot and I until I read your article,
you finally shared with me at least some sense, in
not sense, but at least why it's happening. Maybe you
could share with our listeners what is going on in
front of us? Why are these unpopular issues not going away?
And they seem to be doubling and tripling down on them.

(19:36):
When I say they, I mean the leftists and the
regime media.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
And the and the lot.

Speaker 6 (19:41):
I appreciate your compliment on the article. Like you, I
was puzzled about it and I tried to think it through.
The It seems to me that both parties have a
lot of control is given over to the activists within

(20:03):
the parties. That's especially true in the party out of
power if it doesn't have a leader, because who is
leading the party? Who's leading the Democrats right now? You
can't Often it would be the recently the president who
is just in office. But Biden can't do that for
all the obvious reasons. And so you see a deep

(20:27):
split in the party between the kind of far left
and the sort of center left wings of the party.
And so part of it is that issues like supporting
opposing any deportation of violent criminals and not letting ice

(20:51):
go into jails in sanctuary cities to deport people who've
raped children, and all the rest. Seems like it's a
position that the progressives have gotten themselves into. Why anybody
would call that substantive position progressive is beyond me. But

(21:14):
once they've gotten into, once they've taken that position, Trump
very adroitly takes a very hard stance against them. And
once he does that, I say, it's like a Chinese
finger puzzle. Once, once he's gotten them to stick their
finger in the progressives, which they've done willingly, he puts

(21:38):
his finger in on the opposite side and jerks it closed,
and now they're trapped.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
That's how I say it.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
This is such a great analogy, and it is so
true because you also point out that that logical issue,
what you don't want criminals that came in illegally to
be deported and they say no, Well then he pulls.
But then those same people seem to also be against
Israel and for the Hama, the terrorists, or they might
be for boys playing girls' sports, it seems like. And

(22:07):
then what it seems like that that Chinese finger uh
trapper to whatever it is. If they're putting multiple fingers
in it, and he's and President Trump is just pulling
it from the other side and taking those issues where
they can't agree with Trump.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Is that right?

Speaker 6 (22:22):
I think that's right. I think it's also a feature
of American politics that all the issues you say cut
exactly the same way. That is, the same twenty percent
er on the same side of each issue. So if
you told me, I couldn't say for sure. But if

(22:43):
you told me you were really strongly against the deportation
of violent illegal criminals, you didn't want Ice to come
into the jail, you wanted to abolish Ie, and so
for it, I could probably predict your position on transgender

(23:04):
transgenders in women's sport. Even though the two issues are
completely unrelated, they've become part of this ethos of the
far left. It's a losing position in the general election,
but it may be it seems to be a very
hard position for Democrats to oppose, fearing that they will

(23:26):
lose in the primaries. Look at how few have said
that it's a good idea for Israel to prevent Iran
from having a nuclear weapon. I mean, even the most
sort of that would have just been unbelievable that Democrats
wouldn't have spoken out in favor of Israel some twenty

(23:48):
or thirty years ago, but now it's just been silence.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
You know, you bring up the center left Democrats, those
that don't actually subscribe to this twenty percent position, but
you point out out that they can't their land. There's trapped.
They can't speak against their own party. I've actually seen
some do it, and boy do they ever get attacked
by the by the apparatus, the Democrat apparatus. They get
just attacked mercilessly. Why can center left Democrats, whether candidates

(24:17):
or elected officials, why can't they speak to common sense
right now?

Speaker 6 (24:21):
I think some in purple states. Can you see that,
especially with people like at least Slotkin in Michigan, for example,
I think there is some movement like that, But I
am struck in the same way you are. There's actually
some debate within the Republican Party. As you know, there's

(24:44):
a strong isolationist wing that's very different from the kind
of they take Trump's America First policies to an extreme.
They don't want any foreign involvement. They they were especially
strong on that with regard to Ukraine and I can
understand that, but with regard to Israel, it's not just

(25:09):
that Iran is a malevolent regime. If they get a
nuclear weapon, what do you think the Saudis are going
to do? What do you think the UAE is going
to do? What do you think Turkey is going to do?
You're going to have a very unstable region filled with
nuclear weapons. So I think now the latest news is

(25:31):
that the Iranians want to negotiate. Well, they're a fighter
who's been knocked down and the count is going seven eight,
and they're saying to the referee, g I like to negotiate.
But I think I think Trump really should tell them, a,

(25:56):
you're not really negotiating. Here's the deal whither you accept
the demolition of your entire nuclear program. You have to
give up your long range, your long and medium range
ballistic missiles because we see what they've done with them.
You have to allow snap inspections to come in, and

(26:20):
you have to declare all of your nuclear sites. And
if you do all of those things, then the United
States will urge Israel to stop. And I suspect Israel,
with that as a guarantee, would be willing to do that.
But they're not going to stop until they take out

(26:40):
the entire nuclear program without really firm guarantees that it's
not going to restart under a mountain near Foordoh, you know, I'm.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Coming to a break. I wish I wasn't because I'd
love to speak with you further on this. It's such
a fasting article, fascinating article, and I thank you for
the work you're doing. I think one of the things
you talked about your analogy was back in the sixteenth
century the Catholic Protestant wars, they'd burn people at a
stake for being a past eight. Well, now you've got
the Left. They're burning tesla's and damaging part you know,

(27:12):
they're burning other things. But it's about the same kind
of zealousness that goes nowhere.

Speaker 6 (27:17):
So I agree with you. People in Utah know there's
a difference between a real religion and saying your politics
is a religion.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Here here, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
We're speaking with Charles lips and author, contributor of The Spectator.
Thank you so much for joining us on the program.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
You're most welcome. Greg.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Okay, folks, will we come back. We got more to discuss.
There's more of this more, a lot, a lot happened
this weekend. We're unpacking it on here on the show.
So you want to stay on, you want to hang on.
You're listening to Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Okay, Dress,
you're what's it called the Chinese finger trap whatever? I
don't know what they call it.

Speaker 7 (27:51):
The finger puzzle or something like that, finger.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Puzzle, whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
It is so true that the that the these progressives,
and that's putting it lightly. I'd say these leftsptists, they
have put their finger in these crazy issues, and Trump,
being so vocal, has pulled back on the other side,
and they are trapped in those issues. They can't get
out the common sense Democrats, if there's any left in
this nation, they're afraid they're going to get accused of

(28:16):
being a Trump appeaser if they were to be on
the same side and agree with Trump. Trump is taking
these far left radical issues. He's being so vocal about
it that they're Trump derangement syndrome. And no one that
wants to be accused of teaming up with Trump. They
all have they're all stuck there. They're all stuck in
that bucket of extremism. That nobody in America wants any

(28:37):
part of So I want to get into this. I'd
love to go to your call. I'd love to go
to you, the callers or listeners and take your calls
eight eight eight five seven zero eight zero one zero.
When we come back from the break, I'd like to
hear from you. Did you see any of the violence
this weekend? Did you see the protests? Were they peaceful?
What's your observations on what you saw personally here in

(28:58):
the state of you taught, maybe what you observed nationally,
and what your take on all of it is. We're
gonna keep talking about this in the next hour. So
when we come back, love to hear from your calls again.
Eighty eight five seven zero eight zero one zero, and
again if you have on the talkback number. If you
go and you're listening on the app, the yell the
red circle with the microphone, if you press it, you

(29:20):
get a thirty second take. Love to get those as well.
Let me know what you're thinking out there, what's going
on out there right now? Okay, when we come back,
more to come. You're listening to Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five to nine k nrs, watching the parade and

(29:42):
the celebration of our US armies two hundred and fiftieth
birthday or anniversary. As much as we've seen the violence
breaking out in LA and then leading up to this
weekends no kings protests around the country, but the contrast
of all that with the celebration of our our military
or army, and it really did it was real inspirational.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
I loved it.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
I love seeing it. What a contrast, what a contrast
that's going on in the United States right now. And
I will tell you that the Democrats, the leftists, they
are just fundamentally not used to there there they have
the arrow in their quiver. The only one they go
to is fear. They want to create fear, they want
to create chaos. They want to create because they know

(30:26):
it motivates people. People sadly are motivated by fear. Fear
is contagious. There becomes this mindset that if if I
just stop, you know, having this opinion, if I just
went along, if I go along to get along, they'll
stop or it will stop, and then we won't have
chaos and I won't feel afraid, and so compelling people
to behave out of fear. It's the worst motivation. It's

(30:49):
why the United States has said and it's we've tried
to maintain a foreign policy of not negotiating with terrorists
because if you if you negotiate with those that are,
you know, the authors of fear, and they're successful in
getting something from it, then they're just going to do
more of it. Well, here you have President Trump, who
I think confronts the purveyors of fear stronger and more

(31:14):
resolutely than we've ever seen a president do. And I
mean that that's not hyperbole. I think he spots it.
I think he becomes more resolved as he sees people
being bullied, as he sees people being attacked, when he
knows that taking out vicious, dangerous illegal immigrants out of
this country is the right thing to do, right by Americans,

(31:40):
all Americans. You're not going to intimidate him off of
that position. Look at what they try to do to
him to keep him from running for office. They never
were able to intimidate him to stop. And that was
otherworldly in terms of the kind of lawfare they used
and how the extremes they went to to go after him.
But they're used to winning in these type of battles.

(32:00):
They're used to that if you have enough money with
people with enough money and enough organizations, and now we
find out federally funded mngos that participate in this, that
is something that usually they are on the right side of.
They get their way, and they are just not used
to President Trump really rallying people and showing us that
current being courageous and courage can be contagious, which it is.

(32:24):
And I think you saw both on display here in
the United States with what was going on with the
parade in washingt d C. But what was playing out
here in Utah and across the country. I will tell
you we've we had homicides.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
We had the.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Issue at the westfest and West Valley. The three fatalities,
including tragically a little boy, a little eight eight month
year old, which shifts is just sickening to have to
even say the homicide of one of the attendees of
the No King's Rally, an innocent bystander.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
We're told.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Peacekeepers an interesting concept. Not sure what that means, who
that is. I know there's investigations depending on what a
peacekeeper is. I don't know do they are they licensed
with Department of Public Safety? Or Doppel even are they
hired security because if you have a security company in
Utah that's licensed by the state, and if you're licensed

(33:16):
by the state, there's a lot of things you go
through to be able to carry a weapon to be
a security officer. Are we talking licensed individuals that shot
at this person and or shot off multiple shots? Anyway,
a lot of questions that are out there. I will
tell you though, our own producer, Eric Ray, he got
docked like today, like right before the show started. I

(33:40):
am they he get a call. He's given me permission
to share this story. He got a call and the
person on the other end of the call represented themselves
as from law enforcement from the County Sheriff's Department, threatening
him with the rest because he had missed his jury
duty hearing the date where he was supposed to report
for jury duty and that he needed to act, and

(34:01):
he interrupted them. They were trying to compel him out
of fear to act that he was supposed to follow
their instructions as they were about to spell it out
for him, and Eric Ray was not you know, he
does not suffer fools lightly, I can tell you, And
he wasn't going to let blather which he could hear
and spot right away carry the day. So he interrupted him,
and he started pushing back, and they hung up. And

(34:25):
I'm telling you, this is the type of things dosing people.
They don't want this show to go on the air.
They timed it right before the show goes on, hoping
they could get the producer to come off the show,
just to cause more chaos, to cause more fear, to
try and convince our producer that he was in big
trouble and about to be arrested if he didn't comply
with what they were telling him to do. And it

(34:46):
doesn't work with Eric Ray. They went they came to
a gunfight with a plastic spoon when they called him.
That was a dumb move on their part. If they
call back, I've told him, we're going to put them
right on the air. We're going to identify ourselves as
Greg from the Rotting Greg Show, and if you're calling
from a law enforcement agency, we're going to do a
little special, a public service announcement, and we're going to

(35:07):
let you tell all of us what it is that
we all have to do or else, and then see
how long they stay on the line. So anyway, that's
going on in real time, even hitting home to our
station and our production of our program. If you have
a comment, if you have a take on what you've
been seeing over the weekend, I'd love to hear from you.
Eight eight eight five seven zero eight zero one zero

(35:31):
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(35:52):
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opinion or your observations that way, we'd love to have it.
But what do you what are you seeing out there?
And what do you think is happening? And do you think,
like our guests that we interviewed in the four o'clock hour,
do you think we will prevail because they are just

(36:13):
fundamentally on the wrong side of these important issues that
common sense dictates that you do want criminals deported, you
do want people that have entered here illegally to including
by the way, a majority of legal immigrants now are
polling that they do not support illegal immigration and leaving
them here that the law ought to be followed. Do

(36:34):
you So the question is where where do you see
all this going? I think what I see us. I
think with the leadership of President Trump, as long as
we have a Congress that can you know, get up.
We have a majority, but we need to get some
things done. I think we have we have success coming
our way. But I'd love to know what you think
about all of this. I want to unpack and as

(36:56):
the calls come in and as we want to go
to callers, I can I can pause this or we
can we can thread it into the discussion. But I
want to talk about what happened in Minnesota as well. Uh,
they have a very interesting state legislature makeup right now,
and there's a lot of politics and a lot of
lot of threats, a lot of a lot of things
going on in that state, culminating in the murder of

(37:19):
the Democrat leader of the state House of their legislature
in Minnesota. She and her husband were murdered on early Sunday,
Saturday morning, and we I want to I want to
talk about that a little bit in detail because I
think there's some takeaways there. But before I do, I
we have Will from Harriman, who's on the line. Will
welcome to hang on, welcome to the show, will.

Speaker 8 (37:45):
Think, Thank you, Greg. I just want to tell a story,
a story real quickly. This weekend. Unfortunately, I was downtown
during the No Kings riot. I'd say it was a
riot because most of the people there were just begging
and getting a fight with anyone. It was my brother
and my dad. We went over to see the Dave
Smith at Wise Guys in a gateway. If you ever

(38:07):
heard Dave Smith, I'm sure you have these political commentary
and comedian. It was an awesome show, but we decided
to leave early. Getting in there was crazy. There are
all these people screaming. I really didn't want to confront
anyone because some of them were older folks that I
could tell they're out there peacefully. But then there were
some really crazy people with their shirts off and waving

(38:29):
around the Mexican flag, and I really didn't feel safe.
We heard that there were someone got shot, and there
were gunshots and the roads were shutting down, so we
actually had to leave the comedy show early. It was
just a really it was kind of a nuisance, and
quite frankly, I think Ice would have had a field
day if they were downtown.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
So well, I want to ask you, because you started
out with this, you felt like there were people that
were looking to provoke a confrontation when you were down.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
You went down there, you had tickets, shoes.

Speaker 8 (38:58):
And I want to make it clear, Yeah, it wasn't everyone.
There were a lot of I could tell, just people
that were kind of confused, older people, maybe just Facebook Democrats, right,
But then there were some younger people their shirts off,
like I was saying, screaming, just really pissed off and
I didn't want to get near them. I didn't feel safe.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Well, I appreciate that, thank you for the call.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
I appreciate the take I heard the observation and sharing
it with us, because again, I think that I would
have bet the farm that there wouldn't be one incident
that happened over this weekend, at least in Salt Lake City.
I couldn't speak for the rest of the country, but
I really felt like the state of Utah and in
the Salt Lake City Chief of Police Brian Read, who

(39:38):
I know, could not have been taking this more seriously.
And I always felt that the reason we saw the
riot in May of twenty twenty get out of hand
is that it was not attended to or addressed in
a timely way, and it just spread like wildfire. One
hundred percent was not going to happen this time around,
and didn't. But yet we still saw shots fired and

(40:00):
and tragically someone was killed in another person shot. But
I think the reason why things like that didn't spread
and get even worse was because we had law enforcement there.
But the environment was what it was. I mean, there
were people there that were will set it. I'll say
it my way. I think the boomers, the Facebook democrats
as he called them, I think they were just there

(40:20):
to just you know, be mad at something. And I
don't know that they could have articulated exactly what they
were so mad aut, but they were just there, you know,
to lend their voice. But then you had others who
were there with I think far worse motivation. And so anyway,
that's the state of things in Utah and probably the
rest of this country.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Right now.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
When we come back after the break again, want to
get your calls and also talk about the tragedy that
happened in Minnesota. A lot of a lot there going on,
a lot more questions and answers in terms of what's
this assassin and what he did over the weekend. But
we're going to get into that as well. So hang
on after the break you won't be sorry. We're talking
to this all true. A lot happened and we're gonna

(41:02):
we're gonna dissect it all here on Utah's Talk Radio
one oh five nine Canorus. I want to play a
couple of clips for you before we'll just want to
play a couple because I think it highlights what what
we're what we're living through. Sometimes you have to hear
it again you can see it. But sometimes I think
when you when you hear it, uh, it's just does uh, it.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Just brings it home. Okay.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
This first clip is uh, I I don't know why
this is happening, Well, I guess I do. But the
people that are throwing themselves in front of ice vehicles,
people that are trying to impede federal uh law enforcement
from enforcing federal law and removing dangerous criminals, illegal immigrant
criminals from the streets. They are you'll hear it from

(41:46):
the clip. They're taking this so unbelievably personal. It's either
performative or they have no lives, or they have just
or they're just so massively confused. But have a listen
to this. Uh, this person who decid she wants to
take on the bus, the transporter that's going to transport
these criminal illegal immigrants out. She gets in front of

(42:07):
this bus. Listen to listen to her, no.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Doubt tell me.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
So that's thirty five seconds, and that's might have felt
long as you listen through it. But there's some if
you can hear it, those are my people, those are
my people. She's screaming. This is a if you could
see the clip, the video of it, this is a
a white woman. She is not Hispanic in any way.
Now maybe she her just level of empathy is just
beyond anything I can understand. But she is most people

(43:08):
of Now is the is the vehicles moving have moved
out of the way of this. It's a large it's
not like a little van. This is one of those
big transporters. But she is standing. She's got herself on
the front of the hood of it, and she is
not going to let go, and it's moving, it's moving
in real time, and then she's screaming that they're going
to kill her, They're going to kill her. Point is this,

(43:29):
I don't know what that Saturday would have looked like
for that person. Otherwise, I don't know what their job is.
I don't know what they do for recreation, but whatever
is provoking them to get out in front of a
moving vehicle to stop criminals, illegal immigrants who need to
be deported and should be deported. And and with that emotion,
that screeching, that yelling, it's just it's it's it's not

(43:53):
it's off kilter. There's nothing. There's nothing sane about what
we just what we just heard. Now, I got to
tell you this, this one is we debated. I debate
with Eray whether to play it because it's one of
the things that's happening is when you have an eighty
twenty issue, okay, and you eighty percent of America sees
things one way, and then you have twenty percent that

(44:14):
are just so radical and it's and it just offends
even the common sense that people have. You're right of
center party people that support Trump. It gets to become
bigger and bigger, and you start to get people that
probably never thought of politics before, or thought of themselves
as a Republican or even political, who are watching the
insanity and in their own voice and in their own words,

(44:38):
are going online and complaining about how insane the Democrats are.

Speaker 9 (44:42):
Now.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
I say all that to say, we've bleeped out the
bad words, but this person would not be You would
have not found this person, I would predict at a
Republican national convention, a state convention. This is probably not
a card carrying Republican, but this is an example of
an individual who has apps had it with the leftists
in this country and what they're doing to this country.

(45:05):
And I think it's an important message. But again it's
this person's message, which is maybe not what we would
what you would hear from a card carrying Republican party member.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Let's have a listen.

Speaker 10 (45:19):
Someone asked me if I support the protests that are
going on in LA I w one hundred percent.

Speaker 7 (45:23):
Do please keep.

Speaker 10 (45:24):
Going burn down your own backyard if you must know why,
because this right here is the greatest campaign.

Speaker 7 (45:29):
That this side never had to pay for.

Speaker 9 (45:30):
It.

Speaker 10 (45:31):
Y'all's out there a Los Angeles throwing a full boom tantrum,
like y'all just crawled out the Rio grand screaming debt
to America in a country that gave you the freedom
to do that.

Speaker 7 (45:39):
You were born at Kaiser Permanente in Burbank. Stop it.
You ain't now Chapel. You're christ Rah Pasadeena.

Speaker 10 (45:44):
Y'all are the political version of throwing a maltop cocktail
out of priests because you're mad about gas prices.

Speaker 7 (45:50):
So listen, I'm not mad, you're passionate. I'm mad. You're dumb,
and your dumb.

Speaker 10 (45:54):
Behavior is helping the other side more than a Trump
rally in Texas with free brisket. Every time y'all riot loop,
tear up your own you're.

Speaker 7 (46:01):
Just birthing another red voter. So yeah, I support the protests.

Speaker 10 (46:04):
Keep going, keep flying flags of countries you ain't got
to move to, and on the system that literally gives
you the right to put on it.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
You're not al Chapo, You're Chris from Pasadena. Stop it.
You know, he says, you know you.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
You don't move to those countries because you like your door dash,
You like your you like your your your public safety
goes through those things. I share that with you because again,
that is the the American people just are not going
to track. They're not they're not accepting what the leftists,
the progressives are trying to force and make you afraid
to accept. They want you to be afraid. They want

(46:40):
you to believe that the chaos will only end when
you when you give in, when you when you decide
that boys can play girls sports, that illegal aliens that
are criminals, all of them, everyone's if they're here illegally,
the word it's illegal. But on top of that, if
they've been praying upon people. And this is why I
think legal immigrants oppose now uh illegal immigrants here and

(47:01):
support President Trump by a majority. It's because it's their
communities that are being so damaged and so preyed upon.
That is why I think that where the Democrats are
today is untenable and why Republicans we better get used
to more and more Americans coming to our way of
thinking and we're all coming together as common sense Americans.

(47:21):
And so I'm just playing some of that narrative that
you're hearing from everyday people. Hey, we're going to a
break when we come back, we're going to get more
into this and unpack again. There's just too much to
do in one segment or one hour about the violence
that happened over the weekend, So we're going to keep
talking about that when we come back after the break.
You're listening to Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine Canterus.
If you didn't hear Era, Eric Ray are our producer.

(47:45):
Right before the show started, someone tried to dox them.
They try to get him out of the radios too.
They try to tell me be arrested if he stayed here.
He was late for jury duty, and Iray wasn't having it.
He knew he's getting docksed and could smell a rat
right away as he pushed them. They hung up the phone,
and I've told him and I think you'd agree, folks.

(48:06):
If they call back, we'd like to have them on
the air. We just think it would be a great
public service for them to explain how our producer has
to leave this radio program right now for fear of
being arrested by law enforcement and just kind of walk
us all through that at the same time. Maybe it'll
save someone from being arrested. Maybe it will maybe expose
these people that want to do these types of things

(48:27):
for who they are. Maybe you'll recognize their voice, Probably not,
because you're you probably don't run with this crowd that
would call us and try to try to dos e Ray.
Like I said that they're taking a spoon to a
gunfight when they go after Eray and try to do that.
He could smell it from a mile away anyway, folks.
So one of the things that hit home for me,

(48:48):
a little close to home for me this weekend was
the horrific news Saturday morning that a member of the
of the Minnesota State Legislature had been murder had been
She and her spouse, her husband, had been killed in
the le about three point thirty in the morning. The
story goes like this. Her name is Melissa Hortman. She

(49:10):
has been She had been the Speaker of the Minnesota
State House from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty five. There
was an election and in the election year it looked
like one of the districts House districts was in question.
The outcome of the election was in question, and the
Republicans for a small period of time had a one

(49:32):
person advantage with one vacancy that where the election had
not been decided, so the Republicans for the first time
in a long time, took control of the Minnesota State House.
The election was nullified. They had had a special election,
and that election resulted in a Democrat state lawmaker state
House member being elected, which put this Minnesota State House

(49:53):
in a sixty seven to sixty seven tie. And at
a sixty seven Now, this couldn't happen in Utah because
we have seventy five lawmakers. We have an odd number
so that you don't get a tie. But I guess
in Minnesota they have sixty seven Republicans sixty seven Democrats.
So Melissa Horman, while they don't talk about this in
the media very much, she is sharing. There is power

(50:15):
sharing going on between the Republicans and Democrats in Minnesota,
where she is called Speaker Emerita, okay, And so the
Democrats have a Speaker of the House, and then there's
a Speaker of the House Amerita, which is Melissa Hortman,
who is really the her caucus leader majority leader. But
in this power sharing process, she has the equal power

(50:37):
as the Republicans because they're split in the Senate. In
the state Senate in Minnesota, the Democrats have a one
member in the state Senate majority thirty four senators of
what they call it the Democrat Farmer Labor Party, So
the DFL, they have a one person majority. And then
you have Governor Timmy Walls, he's their governor. So you've
got the Democrats that control the Senate and in the

(51:00):
Governor's office, and then you have a split in the House. Well,
I share those details with you because when this when
she was murdered in the middle of the night, there
were high tensions going on in Minnesota and in that
area at that time, and she was the loan member
of the House to vote for their state budget. They

(51:21):
were going to They were looking at a government shutdown,
state government shut down if they did not pass a budget.
And the House leadership, which is both how you know,
split House and Democrat Democrats and Republicans, the leadership in
the Senate, which the Senate's a majority of Democrats, the
Democrat leadership, and then the governor, who's a Democrat, get
together and they hammer out a sixty six billion dollar

(51:44):
budget to keep to avoid the state government of Minnesota
from shutting down July first. In that budget was a
provision to not allow adult illegal immigrants from receiving Minnesota care.
It is their Medicaid expansion, their healthcare. It's federally funded,
but it's also funded with state taxpayer dollars in the

(52:05):
and it was the Republican's number one budget priority. So
that is what they fight for. And in that sixty
six billion dollar budget is that line item that no
longer in Minnesota will illegal adult illegal immigrants receive taxpayer
paid healthcare. Fifty three percent of Minnesota's agree with that.
And if you can tell, that's a purple state at best,

(52:26):
if not a blue state. But the people were on
the side of the Republicans on this issue. I again,
I share all of that with you because the tensions
in Minnesota and their politics could not be higher. Because
why they propped up the Democrats in this DFL party.
They took this woman, Melissa Hortman, who is their majority

(52:47):
leader or Speaker America, and she was the only one
to vote with the Republicans or the state budget, the
only one all by herself, not her leadership team, not
members of her caucus. And I have to tell you
this about inside baseball, about the politics of all this.
If you don't have a leader of a caucus or

(53:10):
members of your legislative body who go rogue at the
expense of everyone that you've been elected by your colleagues
to represent. It is a one hundred percent fact that if
the governor, who's a Democrat was supportive of this bill,
if the Senate controlled by Democrats were supportive of this bill,
that she had Democrats in her caucus and her leadership
team that were supportive of this bill, and they put

(53:30):
her out there as the only one to vote for it,
and she said it was tearful, it was emotional. And
when this happened and she was murdered in the middle
of the night, many people look to how she was
the tip of the spear on that vote, which she
should not have had to be. And we still don't
know the answers. There's more questions. There's a manifest fest

(53:52):
though we don't know about. There's a lot more questions
about this, but the politics and the cowardice going on
in that state and what's happening there. I guess we
can point to the rest of the country, but there's
a lot going on in the state of Minnesota that
we should be tracking and paying attention to. And thankfully
it's not that bad here in Utah, or at least yet.
All Right, folks, we're gonna keep going. When we come back,
we're going to talk about this. I also invite you

(54:13):
to call number eight eight eight five seven zero eight
zero one zero is a number to call. Check out
the talk back line on the on the app. Leave
us a thirty second take if you'd like. You're listening
to Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Can Ter
resss his name is Vance Bolter, fifty seven year old.
The first, the first moment or the first incident with

(54:34):
this guy, one of those cameras that catches him, you know,
his door camera, doorbell cameras. He approaches a state senator's
home at two in the morning, and he's got an
SUV and it's got lights on it and it's flashing.
He's got a license plate that says it's law enforcement
on the vehicle. He's dressed in law enforcement gear. He's

(54:55):
got a kind of bulletproof vest on, and he's knocking
on the home of a state Democrat, John state senator
who's a Democrat, John Hoffman, and his home at two am.
And when they answer the door, I mean if you
can think at two am and you see these lights
flashing in your driveway and looks like a police officer.
What it turned out to be is it had one
of those very it's supposed to look really not like

(55:18):
a mask, but like an actual head of a person,
a silicone mask over his head to make it look
like a bald individual, but not to look like a mask,
look like a person. It's like one of those Mission
Impossible movies. Anyway, he's wearing it. He goes, he shoots
both the senator and his wife, and then I guess
as the police and the police are investigating that they

(55:41):
go to Melissa Hortman's home, the state representative and leader
to go to her home to see if everything's okay,
and he is there when they arrive and there is
a firefight, he escapes, leaves his automobile there his vehicle.
That's where they find flyers, a hit list, some say
a manifesto. The individual rule has been apprehended. He was

(56:02):
the CEO of an NGO that worked in Africa called
the Red Line Group. I saw some videos of him
over the weekend where he was being a preacher. It's
so contrived. This guy is a hustler, he's a con man.
But I really think he has fallen into this culture
of killing out of compassion if he couldn't find a
way to make himself important in real life. And who

(56:22):
knows if it was the funding that got cut from
these NGOs that sent him over the top. But we
have got this idea now, and it's been bearing out
in polls, and we've had guests on the program talking
about a majority of Republicans or Democrats thought that killing
it was like, I don't know, it's scary. He's like
thirty eight percent, And if you go left of center,
it was something around the fifty percent thought that it
was somewhat reasonable to assassinate Trump. A large percentage thought

(56:48):
it was somewhat reasonable to assassinate Elon Musk. Political violence
is much more embraced by left of cender activists than
ever before, and not the case with right of center individuals.
And so you're getting this culture and you're getting this
attitude that's just growing and growing and growing. And I
think that this guy, this lunatic. I'm not going to

(57:09):
lay it at the feet of any political party. I'm
going to say this guy is an absolute and just
he's a nut job. But I think he absolutely was
appointed to a commission by Governor Wallas. He's been running
in political circles. I think he's well aware of the
environment he's living in. Certainly if he was profiting from
an NGO, and I think he lost it. Anyway, that's

(57:31):
a sad story. We'll learn more as it keeps coming.
But we're going to keep going here on the run
and great show. You're listening to Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine can rs going over a lot of
critical issues. Had a really crazy weekend. A lot of
things happen. I want to switch gears a little bit though,
an issue that really was under the radar for me,

(57:52):
and I'm kind of a news junkie and being a
recovering public servant, I would think I would have caught
what this.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Topic is about. Joining us on the program.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
As state Representative Jason Thompson, he wrote, I recently wrote
an opinion column in its title was bringing students back.
Chronic absenteeism is a crisis. Utah can't ignore. Representative. Welcome
to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Hey, how's go on.

Speaker 5 (58:16):
Good to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
I'm glad you wrote this.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
I don't know why I wasn't paying attention, but it
appears since twenty twenty, since COVID, when all the kids
were not allowed to go to school, a lot of
them kind of got used to that they're not coming back.
Chronic absenteeism is off the charts and it doesn't seem
like it's going away. Maybe you could share with our
listeners what you have discovered and what you're concerned about.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:40):
Thanks, I you know, since the session's been over, I've
been quite actively engaged with our public schools up here
in Cash County, talking with teachers. Administror here is talking
about the biggest problems, and to my surprise as well,
chronic absenteeism is at the top of everyone's concern. And
as I dug into the data, Greg, it's not it's

(59:02):
not just because of COVID. We had approximately ten percent
average chronic absenteeism in the United States in twenty eleven.
By twenty nineteen, GOTA jumped to nineteen percent. Then we
have COVID. COVID happens, and the numbers nearly double in
the two years following COVID, and so as I started

(59:25):
digging into the data, I was blown away. You know,
I'd go to schools and I was I'll never forget
talking in a tenth grade class to a class of
students and there was a kid at the beginning class,
fully engaged talking to me. Everything was great by me.
In a class he was passed out of sleep at
his desk. The teacher came up to me afterwards and said,

(59:46):
represented Thompson, I just want to apologize. He's a great kid.
He didn't mean anything by it. He has to help
his dad at work and he stays until two or
three in the morning, and he comes in and he's exhausted.
So this is an issue. And there's a lot of reasons,
a lot of reasons why people are chronically absent, and
I'd love to talk about a few of those today.
But it's a big issue. It's a big issue we

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all need to be aware of.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
So I was.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
I was ready to over simplify it and say, well,
the kids saw wow, I didn't have to go and
you know, the sun still rose and I'm fine, so
maybe I don't have to go back. But you're pointing
out that there's a lot of different variables. Maybe you
could give us maybe one, two or three that we
aren't tracking that we should that are really contributing to
this chronic absenteeism.

Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
Yeah, I think one of the big ones that I
hear about a lot. Our parents have become very lax.
We've become very lax. We like to take in day
vacations during the middle of the school year. Summers are
so busy with sports and everything else that we got
to fit the vacation and sometimes so we go during
the middle of the school year and there's this idea
that hey, my kid can miss school and it'll be okay,

(01:00:46):
and it's it's simply not. Another one that is really concerning.
In one of my school districts and K through six,
we have fifty eight percent chronic absenteeism in K through
six now and teaism is defined by missing eighteen or
more days or ten percent of the school year or more.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
While of that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:06):
Fifty eight percent, seventy five percent living poverty. We have
a societal dilemma here, We have a cultural issue. And
that's one of the things that I argued in my
op ed is that they're not going to fix this
from the legislature. We're not going to fix this just
from the school district. It's a community issue, it's a

(01:01:27):
family issue, it's a legislative issue, it's an administration. We
have to come together on this and we have to
get things back to the way they were before, so
that these kids aren't missing schools, so that they're not
interrupting other kids, so that that we're making sure that
we're getting the outcomes that are so desperately needed as
we continue to move forward in a very rapidly changing world.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
We're speaking with a state representative, Jason Thompson, talking about
fixing chronic absenteeism among students. Connect the dots for me
on poverty. So what comes to my mind is poverty
could be if a single mom that's raising you, and
so there's not a lot of supervision, if your mom's
at work and there's no one at home, you can
miss school and your parent might not find out. It

(01:02:10):
could also be the case that maybe there's parents that
aren't prioritizing regular attendants at school. Why is poverty Why
is there such a strong correlation In terms of the
percentage that you shared of those that are chronically absent
that are living in poverty seventy five percent. I think
you said, of those that are chronically absent, which is
of like a fifty eight percent number, what's the connection
between poverty and absenteeism.

Speaker 5 (01:02:33):
Well, I think there's multiple connections, and I think you
hit the nail on the head. There's a lot of
families that are just trying to get by. They're just
trying to figure it out. They're just trying to make it,
whether it's a single mom or a single dad, or
it's two parents in the home that are working and
working multiple jobs. Transportation, we know, is a huge issue.

(01:02:54):
A lack of access to clean clothes and food, believe
it or not, is a huge cerned, a huge problem.
So it's things that that for example, in Cash County
where where you know, we have Cash County School District
which goes up along the mountains, and then we have
Logan City School District, this is more down in the city.
A lot of this is just mind blowing to so

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many of us and so many people I talk about,
we have no idea that we have kids that are
not going to school because they don't have clothes and
they don't have food. That is a reality in today's
Utah and and and that's what I'm trying to UH
with this op ed. This is what I'm really trying
to get out there is so that we can be informed,

(01:03:36):
we can be aware, and most importantly in our own communities,
put our arms around our neighbors and and and help
pick up the slack and help make sure we're getting
these kids to school.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
What about So, what's what's the trajectory on this getting worse? Static?

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
With the things you're talking about? Are they are they
being as you're they're sharing this with you? Are they
seeing improvement? Where where do we stand in this crisis
right now? Are we realizing it and getting better or
we're still getting worse?

Speaker 5 (01:04:06):
So it just it depends on where we're looking. So
the the the higher poverty school districts, we're still seeing
things not doing great. Statewide. In the state of Utah,
I believe that the average chronic ABS andeeism rate now
is teetering around twenty four percent, So we have improved

(01:04:26):
slightly since COVID, but we're nowhere near the ten to
eleven percent that we were in two in twenty eleven.
And there's some other reasons. We don't have time to
go into all of them on air today, but you know,
making you know, having children feel engaged, engagement and have
a belief in school's value relationships at school, whether there's

(01:04:51):
bullying or or you know, our kids, our kids being
taught how to navigate relationships and interpersonal relationship and being
able to connect with others where they feel like there's
a connection to their school. There's there's a lot of
these issues that that that we've just we've got to
talk about and talking about and brings awareness and then

(01:05:12):
little by little in each of our own domains, if
we if we do our little part, I think we
can turn this thing around. But there's a lot of factors,
a lot of things that we need to do to
to uh, to get this thing that the ship and
going to the right direction here.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
It's a it's a daunting issue that you're describing. I
don't want to compound it representative. But I've also heard
that we have we possibly have an issue with chronic
absenteeism among educators. Have you run across any of that
as you've talked to school districts and you've talked to
you know, to parents and teachers, what about chronic absentee
absenteeism among educators? Are you seeing a trend there. I've

(01:05:49):
read that there is a problem there, but I don't
I wouldn't know like you would.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
All.

Speaker 5 (01:05:54):
All I can speak is on my experience. I can
tell you, and in full honesty, that I have not
heard from one administrator or from any teachers or parents
for that matter, that chronic absenteeism with with teachers is
an issue. I will say that looking just at me

(01:06:15):
and my family since since COVID, and and our ability
to connect with our neighbors, and how fast paced life is,
and and and just really you know, the kind of
being in in the group, we probably still struggle little.
If I'm just being vulnerable and honest with with with
my family. So to say that, hey, that that we

(01:06:36):
may have an issue here or there with with with
an educator here there, that very well may be the case.
But from everything I've seen, we have tremendous educators that
are very concerned about these students and want to see
these students back in the classroom. A lot of them
are doing everything that they can to reach out to
parents and call and try and make that connection with

(01:06:57):
those students and their parents, and they just need some
support from the community and from us to get this
turned around. And that's that's what my efforts are trying
to trying to be an aid to those teachers and
get them back in the cross room.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
Representative Jason Thompson, thank you for your work on this.
Thanks for bringing us to our attention a critical, critical
issue that we need to understand and you can't. You
don't know what you don't know, so you're bringing it
to bear and there's a lot of work to be
done there. Thank you for joining us on the program
and keep up with good work.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
Thanks mister secret really appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:25):
Having awesome evening you too.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Thank you it was Jason Thompson, Reportite representative. He's working
hard again. Another issue that under the radar for me.
I didn't appreciate how how badly the absenteeism had gotten
among students here in the Stay of Utah. So it's
good to know, and we'd better do something about it
when we come back. We're gonna keep going. We're gonna
keep talking about the issues of the day. We've heard

(01:07:48):
from Abi Bonell that there's been a VACU call to
evacuate Tehran and Iran.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
A lot going on there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Got a clip I want to share with President Trump
talking about Iran. We come back from the break. You're
listening to Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Canteris Anyway,
we've had a great robust discussion about this weekend, all
the events, all sad events, violent events, good events that
happened over the weekend. Just had an interesting and revealing
conversation about chronic student absenteeism in our schools from with

(01:08:17):
state Representative Jason Thompson. He's all over that. We have
to go though right now and talk about some of
the breaking news. There's a lot of whatever's coming. I mean,
whatever's been happening with Israel and Iran, and we've watched
that play out and it looks like Israel got the
better of it very quickly, but they are. President Trump

(01:08:38):
is calling for the people of Tehran and Iran to
evacuate that city, which means that more is coming. I
just saw on the headline that Speaker Johnson is now
postponing his trip to Israel. And there's a lot of
decisions that are being made. I think President Trump just
left the G seven summit early to deal with what's
going on here in the Middle East. I want to

(01:09:00):
play a clip for you. He was asked earlier this
morning because the word was that I ran had some
second thoughts given what's happened since the hostility broke out,
and they were making they were signaling that they would
like to negotiate now with Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
I had talked to them before and they didn't seem
as willing, but now they're asking for him to help
find broker peace with them in Israel and telling Israel
as well that they would like to have a ceasefire.
And so the question was posed to our president this morning,
and this is what he had to say.

Speaker 8 (01:09:34):
Have you heard any signals or seen any messages from
intermediaries that Iran wishes to de escalate the conflict?

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:09:42):
What have what have you heard?

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
What have you heard from the Iridians?

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
I'd like to talk, but they should have done that before.

Speaker 5 (01:09:49):
If I had sixty days and they had sixty days,
and on the sixty first day, I said, we don't
have a deal.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
They have to make a deal, and it's painful for
both parties.

Speaker 4 (01:09:59):
But I say, Iron is not winning this war and
they should talk, and they should talk immediately before it's
too late.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
I think the game changer there and why, and he's saying, look,
I said, you got sixty days. We really have to
see something done. And I think even over the weekend
the Trump administration had been signaling that they're not they
were willing to and did help protect Israel Tel Aviv,
Jerusalem with their Iron Dome.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
You know that iron dome.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
It's kind of like right Reagan's Star Wars, where it'll
stop missiles from coming in before they do their damage,
so they hit them at a higher altitude. If nuclear
weapons are intercontinental, they have to leave the atmosphere to
hit the next continent. And it was Reagan's vision that
there could be weaponry that when it left the atmosphere,
you could destroy those nuclear warheads before they re entered

(01:10:52):
into the atmosphere to hit you know, another continent. Well,
the iron Dome works kind of that way, and that
whenever you launch those missiles, whatever trajectory, whatever height it
takes to get to its target, that's the place that
you try to take them out for the least amount
of damage done. Well, the iron dome works very well.
But with the volume of missiles that Iran was able

(01:11:12):
to launch, which by the way, was less than they
than Iran thought they would because so much of their
arsenal was taken out immediately in an attack, in a
preemptive attack by Israel. But whatever they launched, a few,
as you've seen in the in the news made it through.
So the Iron Dome isn't flawless. It doesn't it can't
capture everything. But where the United States has assisted Israel

(01:11:34):
in this effort is that they have targeted those incoming
missiles as well and stopped many of them from entering
into the airspace of Israel and stopping them from you know,
creating more damage. So the United States assistance up to
this point, as I understand it, has been in trying
to prevent those missiles from entering into Israel, and so

(01:11:55):
they've been doing that. I believe that whatever's going on,
whatever Israel's effort looks like right now, it is an
it's an Israeli effort. I think they're the ones that
are looking to protect themselves, as they rightly should. There's
no more dangerous nation I think than Iran. I mean all,
they've been funding so much terrorism around the world. And

(01:12:17):
remember it was their promise that if anyone messed with them,
if anything that we've seen happen. They said prior to
it happening, if it did, you would see a response
from Iran that would put us into World War three.
And there's a lot of people worried about that kind
of rhetoric and thought that we ran the risk that
it could be true. Well up till now, it hasn't been.

(01:12:37):
And what you're hearing out of Tehran and out of
the leadership of Iran is that they are very worried
and they want to find it. They want to find peace.
Big question is you didn't want to for sixty something days,
and are you just trying to hold on to a
regime that if you let Israel keep doing what they're doing,
you're not going to be around much longer To decide.
That gets into we don't want to be a nation

(01:12:59):
state builder. We don't want to get the United States
in and try to do what we didn't, what we
failed to do in Iraq. We have no interest, I
hope and anything like that. But I leave it to
Benjamin and Yahoo and Israel there. They are absolutely within
their right to protect themselves. And it is one hundred
percent bright line is President Trump, and everyone has said
Iran cannot have a nuclear bomb. They cannot have one,

(01:13:20):
They will use it, and this world would be there
is no fear that should motivate that, you know, appeasing
them and letting them have a nuclear weapon. They cannot,
And I think the President is just unyielding in that
belief and I and I'm glad he is that way.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
I'm glad he feels that way because that's that's the
truth of it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
Okay, So we'll keep you updated on what's happening with Iran,
all that's happening there, and lots more. When we come back,
we're going to talk to EJ. Anthony. He is the
chief economist of the Heritage Foundation. We're going to talk
about inflation and all what's happened. I don't hear about
it as much anymore. We're going to talk to him
about Trump and what he's been doing, if he's been winning,

(01:13:59):
on inflation not being a fascinating discussion. When we come
back after the break, you're listening to Talk Radio one
oh five nine. Cannoris joining us on the show. Uh,
this is an interview. I'm looking forward to EJ. Antony.
He's he's the chief economist for the Heritage Foundation. I
love the title of this of this piece, Trump keeps
winning on inflation. H mister Antony, thank you so much

(01:14:23):
for joining us on the program.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
You know, everything that Trump does, the left and leftists
and regime media say he's a failure, he's a king,
he's a he's an authoritarian. Your article would suggest something
very different. It sounds like he's fighting for the everyday
person and inflation might be coming down. Share with our
listeners what you found.

Speaker 9 (01:14:45):
Well, not just might be coming down, He definitely coming down.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
I mean it really is.

Speaker 9 (01:14:50):
It really is amazing. Look, you can you can love Trump,
you can hate him. I'm certainly no cheerleader for the guy.
I like some of the stuff he does. But the
end of the day, the numbers are what they are, right,
The facts are the facts, and here they are. Biden
handed Trump in economy where the annualized inflation rate was
almost six percent. Now, that's pretty bad, all right. At

(01:15:13):
that rate, prices are going to double in twelve years
about However, in only four months, Trump has brought that
annualized inflation rate down to much less than two percent.
Eighty percent of inflation is gone in four months. That's
tremendous progress. Okay, on top of that, if we if

(01:15:34):
we look at a couple other measures, like wholesale inflation,
which is really important to look at because this is
the inflation rate that businesses are facing. When you go
to the grocery store and you grab that gallon of
milk off the shelf or a little core to heavy cream,
the grocer had to pay for that before you did.
Wholesale inflation looks at how fast are things like the

(01:15:55):
grocer's prices rising, not how fast are your price is rising. Well,
guess what, since Trump took office, those prices haven't moved
on average. And the reason that's great news is because
wholesale inflation tends to tell us what consumer inflation is
going to do several months from now. So again, not
only have we seen that great progress in terms of

(01:16:18):
inflation coming down, but there's a very good chance we're
not going to see any inflation in the months ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Sojay I remember during the campaign that the inflation would
come up and cost of living in the high cost
of living that Americans were living through, and I swear
President Trump as a candidate, he would lead out with
and he would say that we have to lower energy prices.
And then when Jade Vance became a nominee for Vice president,

(01:16:45):
in the debates everywhere, the first thing he'd say when
they talk about inflation or cost of living, they would
lead out with lower energy prices and with a confidence
that they could see those prices go down. Is there
a correlation and why would inflation go down with energy
prices falling?

Speaker 9 (01:17:03):
Well, there's not just a correlation. I would go so
far as to say there's a direct relationship. And here's why,
I think we really underestimate how much energy affects the
price of everything we do and everything we buy. And
it's not just because going back to that grocery store example,
it's not just because everything you pull off the grocery

(01:17:25):
store shelf got there on a truck that was fueled
by diesel. Right, that's energy.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
It's not just that.

Speaker 9 (01:17:32):
But it's also because things like oil, things like natural gas,
are themselves used to create a whole variety of products.
You know, the phone that I'm using to talk to
you right now, All of the plastic and rubberized components
of the phone, and in the case they're made from
oil and natural gas. Synthetic fertilizer. For a lot of farmers,

(01:17:53):
that's their biggest cost input. Synthetic fertilizer is made from
natural gas. The urea that that is being put on
our fields comes out of the ground as natural gas.
So I can't even begin to listen to you all
of the different products that use oil and natural gas
as an actual component, not just in terms of energy

(01:18:14):
being used in production. So all that to say, if
you reduce the cost of so ubiquitous an input as energy,
if you bring down the price of a barrel of oil,
if you bring down the price of a cubic foot
of natural gas, you're going to substantially reduce prices throughout
the economy. And what have we seen under Trump? Well,
instead of oil, instead of oil and natural gas and

(01:18:36):
electricity prices going through the roof. The average price for
energy is down about two and a half percent since
he took office, and because of that, you're seeing tremendous
downward pressure on prices everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
So it begs the question, because I love how you
break this down, and you're showing how well all of
this is working. At Trump's plan and his focus on
energy prices, why areates not coming down I mean, is
this a politic I mean, I have my suspicions, But
you're an economist, you know why are we not seeing
our interest rates lowered as you're seeing this inflation being

(01:19:12):
brought under control?

Speaker 9 (01:19:14):
Well largely because the FED is so incredibly political today.
And I don't say that as somebody who's coming at
this from a political standpoint. I just simply say that
as somebody who's looking at the numbers here. You know,
the FED says they're looking at the labor market, they
say they're looking at inflation. Except the conditions that we
have today are much much more in favor of a

(01:19:38):
rate cut than they were in the autumn when the
FED actually did cut rates. But what they were trying
to do back then was get their preferred political candidate
across the finish line. Let's not forget that the FED
is overwhelmingly a Democrat institution, not a Republican institution. And look,
maybe I'm not saying that's good or bad. That's just

(01:19:59):
simply what it is. Look at the campaign donations that
are made by the people who work at the FED.
Over ninety percent of the folks at the FED have
donated exclusively to Democrats. Over the years, you cannot tell
me that is a nonpartisan or an apolitical institution. And
so right before the election, even though inflation was accelerating,

(01:20:22):
even though the labor market was doing just fine, they
went and cut rates. They did an emergency half a
percentage point rate cut right before the election, and then
another two rate cuts thereafter of a quarter percentage point each.
And so again, if you look at the Fed's models,
and you don't have to agree with the models, I
personally don't, But whether you agree with them or not,

(01:20:44):
the fed's econometric models today are much more in favor
of a rate cut than they were in the autumn.
So you can't tell me they are doing this by
the numbers or they're doing this by the book. They're not.
This is overtly political.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
So your prediction, And will it take Jerome Powell's term
as FED chair to end for us to see a
rate cut, or can he or will he at some
point not be able to ignore the economic data that's
in front of him.

Speaker 9 (01:21:14):
No, I think they have already shown themselves so capable
of ignoring so much data. I see no reason to
suspect that it would take anything less than his replacement
before we would see interest rates come down.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
There you have it, folks.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
I wish there was better news EJ. Than that, But
I think you're right. I think you're calling balls and
strikes here. Thank you so much for this article, Thanks
for what you're doing, Thanks for keeping us in the know,
and have a good night.

Speaker 9 (01:21:43):
Oh thank you for having me appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
That's Anthony. He is Antoni excuse me. He's chief economist
with that Heritage Foundation. And he's absolutely right, folks. Trump
keeps winning on inflation. These experts they cannot get it right.
You look at him. They've everything that this guy was
always falling. When whatever Trump touches, it doesn't happen. The
experts are always wrong, and he's doing a phenomenal job,

(01:22:08):
and we're feeling it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
When we come back after the break, we're gonna just
wind out and talk about what's happening, what we've talked
about so far, and kind of land this plane here
on the Rodding Greg Show for the final segment on
Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine canters. I know
I say that a lot, but look it's twenty twenty five.
Tell me what boring day you've come across, because I've
come across none. I have to play this clip for you.

(01:22:31):
I thought it'd be earlier in the show, but we've
just we've had so much to go over the media.
They've it it's obvious, we've known this already, but they
said the obvious but quiet part out loud. Terry Moran,
recently fired from ABC News for his unhinged rant weird
rant he should never drink and text or post on
social media, had this to say about journalism and his

(01:22:55):
assessment of what it means to be a journalist.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
Let's have a listen.

Speaker 4 (01:22:58):
My own feeling is you don't sacrifice your citizenship as
a journalism, and your job is not to be objective.
There is no Mount Olympus of objectivity where a mandain
class of wise people have no feelings about their society.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
We're all in this together. What you have to be
is fair and accurate.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
And I would refer to the interview with the President
that I did, or a lot of my work, and
I would also say that this will very hot is
an observation, a description that is accurate and true.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
Well, Terry Moran, you're entitled to your opinion, but you're
not entitled to call yourself a journalist if your job
is to provide information and let people or those political
the comment on politics, like myself, draw conclusions from the
events of the day. A journalist is there to report
the events of the day. Now, have they ever been objective,

(01:23:56):
I'd argue no, but I think they at least aspired
to being objective at some point. I think it was
taught in journalism school that they are there to report
the facts. They are not to insert their light, their worldviews,
their opinions into their reporting, especially when it's framed as
nothing more than reporting, not political opinion. But you just
heard Terry Moran say, there's no such thing. There's no

(01:24:19):
just people that walk around that just you know, tell
you what, just objectively, what's going on. We all have opinions,
he says, Nah, yeah, you do, but it was never
your job to decide what's fair and what's not. It's
not your job to tell what you think is the
truth or not. What journalism should be and what they
would always argue it was is they're just there to

(01:24:40):
report and then we the people, we we'll decide what's
what we're seeing, what we're hearing, we can decipher from it.
It's a is incredibly arrogant, and it's it's just, you know,
it's just so on brand for journalism right now to
think I can't let listeners hear all the facts. They
may come up with the wrong conclusion. And I want
them to think the way I do. So I'm not

(01:25:00):
just going to give them the facts. I'm going to
interpret those facts, shape those facts, share those facts the
way I see it, the way I think the world
should look or does look.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
That's not your job.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
It never was your job. And they used to hide,
at least hide that fact. Now they they've just he's
just announced that objective journalism does not and has never
existed ever. I think that I think we had to
at least applaud his honesty of how little he understands
of what the job was supposed to be. And I

(01:25:31):
think we ought to be paying attention and understand that.
I guess objective journalism just isn't a thing. We're not
going to get it, We're not going to hear it.
It's it's just, honestly, I think Stephen A. Smith, who's
not a Republican, he's not a Democrat, doesn't even like
Trump has spent his whole his whole time on ESPN
and as a sports guy. He's been talking more politics

(01:25:52):
and talking more common sense than I've heard from any
any so called journalist. And I use the air quotes
there because they aren't journalists anymore. I think his political
commentary is probably more down the middle in terms of,
you know, if you don't like it, this isn't the
way you should do it, or this is what you're doing.
I think he's doing more of that than UH, than
the so called journalists themselves. So anyway, hats off.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
To Terry Moran.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
He's he's taken the he's pulled the curtain back. He's
shown the great and powerful laws as just a little
little old guy pulling pulling levers, doesn't know what he's doing. Folks,
We next week, this, this, this is These are ongoing stories.
We're gonna be talking more about this assassin, this creep,
this weirdo from UH from Minnesota. More information is coming

(01:26:36):
out about him UH and and even his police confrontation
is odd Iran as an emerging store, as an existing story,
and it continues to unfold.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
We're gonna be covering that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:45):
We'll be on top of that, when we come back,
and then Brian read, we're gonna hopefully this is what
we're gonna get our police chief from Salt Lake City,
not ours, but the chief of police for Salt Lake City,
Brian red on the program. Ask him about his preparation,
what they did for the protests that happened over the weekend,
and what's going on there. So a lot to discuss tomorrow.

(01:27:07):
I can already see the show shaping up already as
we end this show on Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
Thank you for listening. Folks. Look, this is why I
want you to do.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
Keep your hands up, keep your chin down, okay, and
keep it and then to answer the bell. And I'll
see you tomorrow morning or tomorrow afternoon at four o'clock.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Have a good night,

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