The Troubleshooter 1-13-25

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Y'all ript.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
News.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
You need advice, so you don't have.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Come running, just as as as the cam shooter's gonna
help come man, This is.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
The Troubleshooter Show.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
No Tom Martino, Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show.
Three old three seven one three talk seven one.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
Three eight two five five.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
What's happening in your life? How can we help you?
Solve problems? Answer questions, take compleats, make your life a
little easier. That's what we want to do here on
the Troubleshooter Show. Hey is Major Mark Mouth Major?

Speaker 5 (00:46):
There?

Speaker 4 (00:46):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Hey, brother Mark? Okay, everything's cool. Just wanted to check in,
make sure you're there. I'll pull up your picture here
in a minute and see what you're doing. Oh, you
got the studio cam up? I can see ugly over there. Okay,
so uh sorry, Bo, you got it a little skewed
away from Doc. But I imagine that was on purpose,
But yes it was. I might be able to I

(01:11):
might be I might be.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Able to move that.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
I why don't you move it over to the Kelly
so you can get less of nothing behind Bo and
a little of Doc's profile. So the women know where
to tune in for him, and uh, just to.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
Rotate that over.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
It would be good if you could pan it, I
would say, standing behind it, pan to the left anyway,
three oh three seven one three talk seven one three
eight two five.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
I'll bring them up in a minute.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
And we are here as we are every day, solving problems. Now,
I'm going to tell you, as with everything in life,
my god, I've said it before, everything in life has
become political these fires. It's oh god, I feel so
sorry for people. I really, oh man, I can't imagine
the pain and misery people.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Are going through right now?

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Does it belong in the political realm? Were their mistakes?

Speaker 5 (02:02):
Made?

Speaker 4 (02:03):
A ton of them?

Speaker 6 (02:04):
I am?

Speaker 3 (02:05):
How about that? Mark?

Speaker 4 (02:06):
A ton of mistakes were made.

Speaker 7 (02:07):
How do you work on the same reservoir forever and
it's empty? How do you cut the fire budget by
seventeen point five million in California?

Speaker 4 (02:17):
In California? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, pretty bad. It's pretty bad.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Anyway, here we folks.

Speaker 8 (02:24):
What Russ put on?

Speaker 4 (02:25):
What?

Speaker 8 (02:26):
I'm sorry? Uh? What was on the radio? Uh?

Speaker 9 (02:31):
Ross?

Speaker 4 (02:31):
What? What?

Speaker 10 (02:32):
Ryan?

Speaker 3 (02:32):
What?

Speaker 4 (02:33):
Ryan?

Speaker 6 (02:33):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (02:34):
That SoundBite that Ryan played on Friday about the fire
chief saying, wouldn't you want somebody that looks like you
to come in and rescue you in a fire rather
than somebody who can actually lift and carry you. That
was just unbelievable to me.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
To me, I know that was so I don't even
understand what what the fire chief was getting at you.

Speaker 8 (02:56):
I mean, well, then if somebody comes into your house,
you'll more likely to go with them if they look
like you, which is an absolutely absurd statement.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
You know what, I will go with anyone who wants
to save me for anything, and that goes for first aid,
first responding surgeons, doctors, nurses, mechanics.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
What do you know?

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Why let me ask this, and seriously please call with
consumer problems, questions and complaints. I swear to God though
this has become a ubiquitous part of our life, so
we have to discuss it. You know, I don't have
an agenda here, but here's what I want to know.
Why is it, And let's just face it, it is the
liberal agenda. Why do they highlight differences to begin with?

(03:45):
They're the ones that are making divisions among us. It's
not a fireman, it's a black fireman or hispanic fireman,
or a white fireman, or a white police officer at
black police I mean, why can't we just have fire
firefighters and police officers and people who love people.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
And they come in all shapes and sizes. Why is it?

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Why is it that liberals have to highlight the differences
among us? Are they afraid that if we don't do that,
they won't have a power base anymore? By tapping into
that envy and that feeling of being left out?

Speaker 4 (04:25):
What is it now?

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Now you might say, well, yes, you're tom for a
white guy. You can sit there and say that all
you want. You haven't had to live through this. Well,
I am sure there were challenges and there still are
for people, because there are some people who are stupid.
But for the most part, why do we still keep
highlighting differences?

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Differences and we're being preached to? Another thing?

Speaker 3 (04:52):
I would like to one time, I don't know if
I tuned into this open camera kind of like a
C span in the Oval Office. I didn't even know
they had it, but it was. It seemed pretty candid,
and it was President Biden being updated on the fire,
and the mayor of Los Angeles was on the phone

(05:13):
along with I believe the governor, and they were totally
getting away from the fire aspect. Of the fire and
the water aspect and the response aspect, and they kept saying,
this is what a climate emergency looks like. It's all

(05:36):
climate change. A climate emergency. It's not a fire. When
we have freezes, it's not a freeze. When we have
warm spells, it's not a warm spell. When we have blizzards,
it's not a blizzard. When we have floods or fires
or anything, They're all climate emergencies. Not even climate instances
or events or climate catastrophes, but climate emergencies brought in

(06:02):
by man. How arrogant are we to believe that we
can change nature? I mean, look, I don't think we
should destroy earth, and we should do everything we can
to cherish it and to be good stewards. But everything
in the world, everything has turned political. Everything. When we

(06:27):
had the pandemic, it was political. The forest fires are political.
Climate is political. If we are undergoing climate change, is
it our doing? Can we change it? Can we really
change it? When one volcanic corruption can undo everything we

(06:47):
have ever done since one hundred years, for one hundred years,
what can we do? I'm not making fun of people,
I'm truly asking questions. I'm so tired of people being
angry at each other and not truly being able to
just answer questions and discuss things. And you know, look

(07:10):
how many billions of people are on Earth right now.
And I know we like talking about car cow farts
and cow verps, but people fart and burp too. I mean, ultimately,
I think the environmental message from wackos are do away
with life on Earth and the Earth will be fine.

(07:31):
There won't be any life, but the Earth will be fine. Truly,
if you harnessed every single emission that was ever put
out since the dawn of the industrial Age, every single
one of them, it doesn't amount to what you think
it does. I want you to just do that on

(07:52):
your own. I'm not going to bore you with volumetrics. Volumetrics, well,
it sure doesn't.

Speaker 7 (07:58):
It sure doesn't equal a bit volcano, or it doesn't
equal an asteroid hitting the planet like it did millions
of years ago.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Now, by the way, when Doc was talking on his mic,
he sounded normal. But I don't know what's going on
at the studio with your mic, Mark, but a sound
of it a little processed, and again.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Doc sounded fine. Bo say hello to me.

Speaker 11 (08:24):
Hello, Tom, and the listeners out there today have a
good Monday.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, okay, okay, I hear big time.

Speaker 6 (08:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
So I'm not sure what's going on because I don't
I don't have one here. But anyway, your mic seemed
to be the one that was doing it, but who knows?
Uh three oh three, I'm getting really solid good readings
here three O three seven to one three talk seven
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Fuller on board today?

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Is he?

Speaker 4 (08:53):
I know he's not in the studio. Is how he
wasn't feeling good?

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Okay, so we won't have John our person injury attorney.
Let's uh take a quick break, and really, what I'd
like to do is focus on problems, questions and complaints,
especially starting out the year and doing it the right way,
and what we should do and what we shouldn't do
to make our lives just a little easier. I mean, really,

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(11:03):
three talk three oh three seven one three eight two
five five. I want to talk to Deputy D with
me here about an issue going on. So I'm going
to go and deputy out and then to use your
camera as well. So go, what is the case, what
does it have to do with You may recall that,
hold on, let me get your mic and go ahead.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
You may recall that a few weeks ago, just before
a Christmas break, a lady called named Khalia called this
about a flooded condo that's kind of over in near Ilift.
And uh, it's it's over there near Ilift.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
How did it flood?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Well, so about two and a half years ago, after
a period of very having august rain, her condo flooded. Yeah,
presumably from from a faulty roof.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
And well, I'm looking up the case. What was her name?

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Khalia?

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Ah l e a okay, Khalia, Yeah, and I can
get you the it's okay, yeah, Khalia. So anyway, so
her insurance, so she made an insurance claim. Her insurance
company came in and they had a company tear out
the entire interior of the unit. You may recall I
went there that Friday. That was the case that I
went on a little field trip. I wasn't prepared to

(12:13):
see the disaster that unfolded before my eyes.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
I walked into this condo.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
It's literally a concrete box, concrete floors, walls and ceiling.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
And studs where walls used to be.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
And they did that to get the place dried out
and get it ready to be rebuilt. However, it's still wet.
There's still water coming in two and a.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Half, so her insurance can't finish the inside. That's right.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
And there were four leak detectors on site. There were
representatives from the HOA, and there was some guy from
an insurance company when we were there, and two leak
detectors which she had hired herself identified poles in the roof.
She lives on the ground floor, or used to live
on the ground floor of a two story condo they

(13:00):
lived now by the way. Well, that's another part of
the problem. The insurance company paid for her to rent
an apartment for two years, but a few months ago
that benefit ran out, so now she's paying for an
apartment on her own, she's paying a mortgage payment, she's
paying the HIA dues, and all of her other living expenses.
And there are holes. The two leak detectors that she

(13:23):
hired found holes in the roof. One of them a
couple of weeks ago, went up there with a hose,
turned on the hose and then observed water coming down
her walls.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
In her unit.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
The position of the two leak detectors that the association hired,
and the position of the association is the roof isn't leaking.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
We don't know where the water is coming from. Well,
but is there a problem?

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Well, I agree, it's their problem, but that doesn't mean
that they did anything about it. And so far it
appears that they have taken absolutely no steps to actually
fix the problem now because they disclaim any responsibility for it.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Position is absurd, which is their position is, yeah, it's leaking,
but we don't know where. In the meantime.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Oh and by the way, they haven't even made an
attempt to inspect the unit above her, the only unit
above her, which, by the way, according to Kohala, is
also experiencing ongoing flooding to this day, to the extent
that the resident of that unit had to buy a
dehumidifier and dump it out every once in a while
because that unit is constantly wet.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
So when when did this call coman? So this came in?

Speaker 2 (14:30):
I want to say it was the week before we
took our Christmas break, so that would be yeah, and
was on the shown yet, yeah, it was you and
I here she called.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
You couldn't believe what she had to say. I'm trying
to find the damn call. I can't find it, but
so I can. Well, where does it stand right now? Well,
here's where it stands. She is out of money.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
She has broke the HOA won't fix so far, it
hasn't fixed or taken any steps or even indicated they're.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Going to fix the leak.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
They are now sending her delinquency notices because.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
I have a Kalia right here. Yeah, December sixteenth, that's it.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
So now she's broke the association of sending her delinquency
notices because she's just making way too many monthly payments.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
So they acknowledge it problem, but they're not doing anything.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Well, they acknowledge that there's water in there, but they
deny responsibility. Okay, then so what do we do? I mean,
this is a dreadful position to be in. She's without
a home, she's broke, she's without my she's working three
jobs in an attempt to make all these things.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
I may want to call Brad, but is this truly
a real estate issue?

Speaker 4 (15:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Brad O'Brien, should we call him?

Speaker 2 (15:45):
It's well, I think there are two reasons that's a
real estate problem. One is what can we what can
she do to make the association plug the leak?

Speaker 4 (15:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:57):
The other question I have is I've never heard of this,
but after all these years, is there a way to
make the insurance company just declare the unit of total
loss pair whatever the fair market value.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Okay, let's get two people on for this. Kachina, if
you're listening, and Mark, you can make sure she doesn't
have the mimosas in hand.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
Soon you're there. I'm already on my floor. It's all good. Okay.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
We're gonna get Matt On from Paragon Services, Matt Stanford,
and then I would like to get Brad O'Brien. Ok
Let's just see what they have to say, But the
leak detectors that were there, what did they say?

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Well, the two detectors that are working for the HOA
and for their insurance company claim the roof isn't leaking. However,
the two detectives that she hired not only took pictures
of holes. It's a flat roof with a membrane on it.
They not only have photos of the holes in the
bad brain. One of them told me in person that

(17:05):
the roof is a mess. And furthermore, one of them
went up there about a week and a half ago,
took the hose with him and caused the leak in
her unit just by turning the hose on on the roof.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
Ridiculous, ridiculous. Now I am. I am so.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Put off by people who are shirking responsibility for people's
That's the thing a lot of these have in common.
You know, sometimes we have consumers that are off base,
but now we have consumers done nothing wrong. The least
leak detector says there's a leak. Okay, now stop the leak.
Did the hui actually say to you there's nothing we

(17:43):
can do.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
They wouldn't talk to me, but they talked to her
and not only will they not release to her the
reports from their leak detectors, they claim in their conversations
with her, Hey, our detector said, the roof is fine,
that's not leaking.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Don't know where the water is coming from.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
Period.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Well so we're so it's at a standstill.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
But it's like everybody is waiting her out, like she
just doesn't have the resources left to fight them anymore.
She doesn't know where to turn. She doesn't know what
the next.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
What's the name of this place?

Speaker 3 (18:18):
I actually don't know. I mean, it's somewhere in my notes.
But well let's find out. I can I can find out.

Speaker 11 (18:26):
I have a question, Hi, Hi Dimitri, Hey, can this
lady just pay one of our roofers on the referral
list to just plug up there.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
The roof front.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Maybe it's not come maybe it's not coming from a roof. Well,
it's coming from the roof.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
According to her leak detector, he went up there a
few days ago with a hose turned on. The hose,
went down to her unit and saw water coming down
the walls, but their lead detector said they won't let
him see it. Their league, the HLA's league detector wouldn't
take a hose up there. He just went up on
the roof, looked at it and said, oh no, the
roof is fine.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
There are no leaks on the roof.

Speaker 8 (19:02):
Are there leaks going on another condo units?

Speaker 2 (19:05):
But there's only one condo unit above her. It's a
two story building. The condo above her is also constantly
getting flooded. It's wet, it's and by the way, Tom,
it's it's even worse now than it was back then
because when I walked into the unit a few weeks ago,
the stench of mold and mildew was overpowering. It was

(19:26):
like a five hundred year old crypt in there. We
had a we walked out. The walls have mold, the
studs have mold, the ceiling has mold. And the insurance
company also denied her recent claim for mold mitigation.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Well, okay, we got to talk to Brad and we
got to talk to Matt. That's all there is to it.
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Speaker 4 (21:43):
But what was that about, Dmitri?

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Well Mark, it's a desperate situation that this lady named
Kalia found.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
Herself a situation.

Speaker 7 (21:51):
What exactly were we going to ask Brad O'Brien and
I brought him up by the way.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Okay, go, okay. I have two I have two questions
for him. One is how does she go about forcing
the association to actually fix the roof and stop the
leak so that her insurance company can rebuild her condo
she can move back. Second question, The second question I
have is whether it's even possible to make the insurance

(22:17):
company in this case as Farmers just declared the unit
of total loss and pay her out the fair market
value of it two and a half years ago, so
she can go along with her life.

Speaker 7 (22:26):
Well, I don't think it works that way, because the
condo itself, I mean, the only thing that they Brad
O'Brien in general, the only thing she's going to ensure
is the dry wall in.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
Is that correct? In most cases?

Speaker 7 (22:37):
So if you talk about a total loss on a condo,
I mean the total loss wouldn't actually be the unit itself,
it would just be the contents, right.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (22:48):
Normally the HI declaration says where the point of demarcation
in the wall is that the unit owner is responsible for. Yeah,
in the outward part that the HO is responsible for,
but typically it's the dry wall in is the is
the honor responsibility.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
And then more important in here.

Speaker 7 (23:04):
So Dimitri, I don't see that happening because there's yeah,
there's no coveragechair, But the other part, how.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Do you there's no there's no way to declu Yeah,
there's no way to declare it the total loss.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Is that right, Brian?

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah, the whole building would have to be a total loss,
not a car that.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Can get totaled. This is this is real estate, okay,
And with that answers that question.

Speaker 12 (23:24):
Yeah, a condy minium is a defined space in the air,
and unless the whole entire building goes away sometimes it does,
like it burns down, that space can be perpetually renewed
and replace through replacement and repairs.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
Yeah, that's that's just that's just how it works.

Speaker 7 (23:42):
But more importantly, Brad, let's say the h O Way
is supposed to take care of the roof and the
HO Way is not. And the reason we know that
is when it rains, water gets into a unit. Now
I'm stretching this out a little bit to get to
the point. So, how do you force somebody that's supposed
to take care of someone?

Speaker 4 (24:01):
What kind of legal action?

Speaker 7 (24:02):
What would she have to do to force them to
fix the problem that apparently they're responsible for that's doing
damage to her.

Speaker 12 (24:11):
Well, the workforced me pretty much means you have to
go to court and get an order to compel Bitua
to do their job, or alternatively, can go to court
and get trying to get an award of damages for
the property damages so that this home owner can get
the work done.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
Through his own contractor.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
But Dimitri, it is literally still leaking, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
One of the leak detectors put a hose on that
roof about a week and a half ago, and there
was water coming down this lady's walls.

Speaker 7 (24:40):
So she's to the point where she probably has to
hire an attorney. Does she have any money? I know
nothing about this.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
No, man, she's broke. She's working three jobs. She's making
HOA payments, mortgage payments, and her expensive rent payments on
a place where she's had to live for the past
two and a half years.

Speaker 7 (24:57):
Now, wait a minute, what do you mean rent payments?
Does she rent or does she own?

Speaker 2 (25:02):
No, she owns this condo, but it's unlivable, so she
had to move into an offside apartment and her insurance
company tore out the entire condo. It's literally just they
tore out the entire interior. All that's left is concrete walls,
concrete ceiling, and concrete floor.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
She got studs where the walls used to be.

Speaker 7 (25:19):
She's got to get someone over there. Well, she has
no money at this point. With no money, I'm not
even sure what you do. I mean, you're not gonna
have a contractor, go rebuild it for free. You're not
going to have an attorney, so up and do hundreds
of hours.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Ye Mark.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Her insurance company stands ready to ready to rebuild the unit. Okay, good,
so that we will get rebuilt. But there's no sense
in doing that.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Because the.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Aren't they paying her rent right now? Wasn't that part
of her?

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Governer paid her rent for two They paid her they
paid her rent for two years, and she exhausted that
alternative housing benefit.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
And why Tom Trie, why is it taking two years?

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Because the association refuses to acknowledge that the roof is
leaking and water is infiltrating her unit.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
Wow, I ASSOCIATIONE what can she do?

Speaker 12 (26:15):
She's ideally you try to stay out of court, work
this out amicably, you know.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
And well it's been two years Brad.

Speaker 12 (26:22):
Yeah, Well, as she retained her un inspector to have
some expert on her side.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
Who can yes, she had two yes.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
When I was when I visited this this condo about
a month ago, she had two of her own league
detectors on site along with the two detectors that were
hired by the h OOA and their insurance company. So
she does have experts along with corroborating exhibits.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
She's like photographs, her.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
Experts took the holes in the roof.

Speaker 7 (26:51):
Dmitri if everything is his, You're being told by her
she's got to hire an attorney. I don't know what
else to tell her. I mean, she's got to hire
an attorney to four's the hoa or to force the
management whomever to get it done.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
She stands ready to do that, and she stands ready
to pay the attorney bills. She knows that's what it's
going to take. So Brad, is it okay for me
to refer her to you to hire you for a consultation.

Speaker 7 (27:16):
Yeah, And then Brad caneps Bred and then the abreast
of it.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
I mean, I'd love to know how this one goes.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
And Brad and in the meantime, Tom also suggested that
we ask Matt from Paragon Services, the public adjustering company,
to go out there and take a look at this unit.
In part, it's because Khali Kalia's unit is now covered
with mold, right because it's been cold and wet there
for the past two and a half years, and her
insurance company denied the mold claim. Yeah, probably, I think

(27:46):
that's probably going to be part of your conversation or
Matt's report. Well, probably part of the conversation you're gonna
have with this lady.

Speaker 7 (27:53):
You know, I don't know if they would ever pay
for that, though, Dimitri, because all that happened after the fact,
right after the initial claim. Well, I mean, the insurance
company is not gonna it's been two years, no matter
how we look at it, it's been two years.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
She should have.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
Hired an attorney, you know, a year and a half ago,
for that sake. I don't think it's the insurance company's
issue at this point.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Well, okay, even if that's correct, which I think you
are correct, where do we go now?

Speaker 7 (28:25):
You know, we need to get this thing right out.
Got a higher plug. She's got to call Brad. That's
gonna be the first thing. Give her Brad's number. Seven
year zero three seven zero seven three eight eight. I
really got to take this break, guys, everybody holds tight.
We got two lines open three oh three, Martino, Tony
and Brenda. I promise I'm coming to you right after this.

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Speaker 4 (29:19):
All right, three oh three seven five one line open.

Speaker 7 (29:23):
You've been ripped off for taking advantage of Honest to God,
we want to hear from you. Hey, Brenda, I don't
know where this came up. You got to comment on
para why?

Speaker 9 (29:31):
Uh No, I need a question on a pair of
refund sure.

Speaker 10 (29:35):
I need to see if you have any contexts within
that organization. My son in law lost his pair of
job in October and applied for a pair of refund
with a direct deposit and they told him six to
eight weeks. It's been twelve weeks now when he calls back,
they say they gave it to the wrong person and
they're having to investigate and it's still processing. But he's

(29:55):
a single income family of three and honestly they've been
in and out of eviction for three months while he's
been trying to find a Joh, my god, really help
him if he could get it refunded and we eat.
All they keep telling him is that it's processing.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
That that's insane.

Speaker 7 (30:11):
Hey, Deputy Bow, you mind making a call over to
paira do a little research.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
Figure it out now.

Speaker 7 (30:16):
Is there like a caseworker or somebody that they've been
dealing with directly, some kind of phone number in a
name that you guys already have or nothing.

Speaker 10 (30:25):
Yes, there probably is. It's for my son in law.
I can give you his name and numbers.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Let's do that.

Speaker 7 (30:30):
I'm going to have Bow reach information. I'm going to
have Bo reached directly out there. I do want to
say something. I mean, if there he's going to take
the lump some.

Speaker 10 (30:39):
Huh, yes, because.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
That's a pretty big tax event.

Speaker 10 (30:43):
Well, and he hasn't had a job for four months
and they're getting eviction notices every month.

Speaker 9 (30:48):
Oh my god to pay their mortgage.

Speaker 8 (30:50):
It's just one of the Is he collecting unemployment?

Speaker 4 (30:53):
Yeah, that's a good question.

Speaker 10 (30:54):
Not yet, because you have to submit eighteen months of
pastus and he doesn't have it. Eighteen months and they said, well,
he could submit it, but they will probably reject it.
So he hasn't submitted unemployment and I told him today
to submit that with maybe W two's maybe they would
accept those instead of pay stub. So you know he's
looking into that. But you know, this parent thing would

(31:16):
be a big thing if he could get the money.

Speaker 7 (31:18):
Yeah, that's one of the worst things he can do,
but I get it. If you got to have it,
I mean, better be out on the streets and pay
or not pay taxes.

Speaker 8 (31:26):
Has he been employed for more than eighteen months?

Speaker 10 (31:29):
He has, but with different companies.

Speaker 9 (31:31):
This one he was with Pair was for like a
ten month per Okay.

Speaker 7 (31:36):
I've never had anybody call in doc or Brenda that
said they had to have eighteen months. Generally, when you're
paying into unemployment, they know you've been paying into it.

Speaker 8 (31:46):
Yeah, so I.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
Don't understand that part at all, honestly, Brenda.

Speaker 10 (31:50):
Well I don't either.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
But are you sure he's worked eighteen months?

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Uh?

Speaker 10 (31:55):
Yeah, he was with Southwest prior to changing to this.

Speaker 13 (31:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (31:59):
And they're not going to be paid under the table,
so yeah, yeah, there should be no reason we've got
someoney over who's hey, Kelly.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Who is it Phil? What's his last name? Over at
unemployment spector or something?

Speaker 8 (32:11):
No sheep shirt to Phil something.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
But yeah, he's the boss man. There's no higher than him.
Let's do this, Brenda.

Speaker 7 (32:17):
You need to give Bo the information on him or
his phone number whatever. Bo you're gonna call up over there.
Let's get all the relevant information and we'll send it
off to Phil for the unemployment part. Then on the
other side, you're gonna be looking into the para and
why this guy can't get his money if they accidentally
send it to the wrong person.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
This guy shouldn't be dealing with that. Who cares.

Speaker 10 (32:41):
They've been investigating that for four weeks.

Speaker 7 (32:43):
Yeah, that's insane. This guy needs the money. They don't
want to be out on the street. It's just crazy.
Hold on, Brendan, we're gonna help with this. Three zero
three seven one three A two five five. We're gonna
have two open lines in a second. Hey, Tony, what's
going on with you?

Speaker 5 (32:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (33:00):
Subject I've never heard on your show is recirculating pumps
in the house.

Speaker 13 (33:07):
Yay or nay?

Speaker 4 (33:08):
Well, what do you mean by that? For what?

Speaker 14 (33:11):
It's something I just learned about. It's a pump that
recirculates the hot water in the house. So you're all
your faucets have instant hot water.

Speaker 7 (33:24):
Well, why would you do that compared to almost an
instant hot water that's you know, right under the sink
at that particular point of use place. Why would you
do this massive system that's running to wear every bathtub,
every shower, every bathroom sink. I mean does it run everywhere?

Speaker 14 (33:45):
Yes, And it's what a plumber recommends.

Speaker 9 (33:47):
You know what.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
Let's do this.

Speaker 7 (33:48):
I want to learn more about this. This is an
interesting topic. Let's get Bob Logan on or one of
his plumbers or someone from fix It Kelly.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Let me put you on hold. Man. This is a
great question. I have questions. How much do they cost?

Speaker 7 (34:02):
Why wouldn't you just do like an electric one point
of use at the ones you want instant hot water,
maybe the kitchen sink, in the shower, but every single
every single tap in the house.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
I want to learn more about this.

Speaker 7 (34:14):
Three oh three seven one three eight two five five,
We're gonna have one line open. Hey, by the way, Tim,
I'm gonna come to you about this car accident. We
can get an attorney on. We could do all different
kinds of things. But we're coming right up on the break.
I do want to talk about uh, just real quick
because I'm killing a minute here. But these fires men

(34:35):
are devastating. You know, I've seen people online actually go
oh they deserve it and stuff. No one deserves to
lose everything. I don't care if you're a Hollywood star
or if you know that house that got burned down
was passed down to you from your great grandparents down.
It is the most horrible thing I think I've ever seen.
It is the most devastating photos you could ever imagine.

Speaker 8 (34:58):
Works. Then celebrities, most are working sticks folks.

Speaker 7 (35:03):
We're gonna have two lines open coming back from the break.
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(36:57):
Mark put up a questionnaire here. And if you have
bad service, should you put up a bad review? Sure
you should, just like you should put up a good review.
I think that both are important. I don't you know,
I don't come down on people with a lot of
anger and hostility reviews. But I tell the truth, and

(37:18):
I think it's really important to do that to really
have an honest assessment of the services. It really tells
people a lot of stuff. One thing I can't stomach
and I don't know what we can do about it.
I can't stomach fake reviews. I mean it makes me sick.
Let's go to the you can generally tell them.

Speaker 7 (37:36):
The worst is I think Amazon for fake reviews, although
I think they've gotten better.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yeah, let's talk to Tony about this recirculation pump.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
Mark, is that's something you took when.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
I test that.

Speaker 7 (37:49):
Basically, he wants to know there's a plumber either trying
to sell them one or something. He wants more information
on a recirculation pump that does this.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
I get very common.

Speaker 7 (37:59):
Well, yeah, he's saying it would be instant hot water
basically at any any tap in the house. I find
that incredible. I've never heard of it.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Yeah, No, they're absolutely. What they do is they just
recirculate the top part of the tank and back, and
then the top part and back, and you know, it
costs a little more, but not that much more. Just
letting it sit.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
I guess I don't get it.

Speaker 7 (38:23):
How are you running to my water heater sits in
my basement and the furthest sink away would be the
upstairs bathroom. That water lines long asral. How does it
keep hot water going to there along with every other
sink in my house at the same time? Is it
a big round coase?

Speaker 4 (38:40):
What it does?

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yes, they put they put a research valve in and
it goes out and comes back. It's it's very simple,
and it's a series usually, but if they go to
each one, then they just put one in each.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
They've just put a loop for each bathroom.

Speaker 7 (38:56):
So I guess, how do you give that loop to
my upstairs bathroom through three different floors.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
Isn't that so costly? It would be no.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
No, you know Mark, You don't run, You use the
existing water line and then it returns to the cold
water side. So what it does is it simply instead
of waiting for you to turn on the hot water,
then hot water starts running and some people have to
wait two or three minutes for hot water. The reasoning

(39:26):
is you actually use more water that way than if
you just have it right there turn it on. It's there.
Then you turn it off when you don't need it.
So what happens is, if you can picture this, you
turn on the water, the hot water is circulating it
go now when you're not using it, the hot water

(39:46):
is being pumped up through that to the back bedroom.
Because let's just say you do it on that one bedroom.
It goes through that line to the bedroom.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
They don't run a new line.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
They just turn on and what they do is go
to that bedroom. They go to that sink, and they
put a tee fitting across to the cold water and
it allows hot water to be pumped through and in
a one way valve into the cold water line and
back to the system.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
Wow, that's uh, yeah, it's still I'd loved it.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
A week and they only do and they only do
enough volume to keep it ready.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
You would just think, not.

Speaker 7 (40:26):
Like, you know, five bathrooms. You're you're talking two sinks,
you're talking a shower, a bathtub, you're talking everything in
your kitchen. It just seems like I guess you're.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Having now you would now, let me explain, let me
explain the best part. If you do it on your
main master bedroom and let's say the kids aren't home
in the back bedrooms, but they're coming home for the weekend.
You can turn those on and off for those remote
rooms when you're going to have guests. It doesn't have

(40:57):
to be on the whole time, so you use it,
but for long periods of time you turn it off.
That doesn't mean you don't have hot water. Of course
you do. So if you turned it off and you
suddenly are back there cleaning something, well, oh crap, I
got to wait for two minutes. But it's still not
You don't have to keep it on all the time.

(41:18):
So you really do have control over it.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
So Bob low, you can line. I got Bob up.

Speaker 7 (41:24):
So if I wanted to add it to everything in
the house, just give me some form of a ballpark.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Well, okay, remember you're not laying new pipe. You're putting
in cross pipes and pumps, And Bob, was I was
I telling you? That was I telling the truth about you.
You don't have to keep the circ on in a
back bedroom if it's not being used for a few months.

Speaker 15 (41:47):
Now you're You're exactly right. And circulating pumps can be
installed at different locations. You can actually install it at
the at the water heater and have it circulated through
the house, or you could have it at a specific.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
Faucet under each sink.

Speaker 15 (42:07):
Right say, like like you said, your master bedroom, maybe
your kitchen. You might just want him there then that's fine.
Or you can have a whole home system where circulates
throughout the home and so it's you know, you're going
to save a little bit maybe on because you're not
you're not wasting a lot of water waiting for a
heat up. But then you got the additional cost of

(42:29):
the circulating pump. So they kind of offer set you know.
Sometimes you will will say you can actually save money
with them. I'm not sure that's the case, but I
think they're They're a great product. I have them in
my home and they work fantastic.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
Hey, Tony, you got it.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
Now I'm going to take a guess. I'm going to
take a guess. If you had to put one on
for a master bedroom with a pump and the labor,
I can't imagine it being less than twenty five. But
that's my gut, Bob. I don't know. There's nothing wrong
with being transparent about pricing, because you know people are

(43:04):
going to pay what they're gonna pay.

Speaker 15 (43:06):
Yeah, I mean that's that's probably pretty accurate, Tom. I
you know, I just I don't get in fold on
that side of the business anymore, and so I can't.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
No, I understand it.

Speaker 7 (43:16):
But that would be just one, right Tom, I mean
that wouldn't be an entire house.

Speaker 16 (43:20):
Then no.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
But the more you do their scale, their scale, because
they're there already.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
And you know the pumps sound Yeah, you got any questions?
He's the guy they called with the question, Hey, Bob.

Speaker 17 (43:34):
Yeah, my only question is.

Speaker 14 (43:40):
How do I know if I can get away with
just one for the whole house?

Speaker 4 (43:44):
Well, well, it's how many bathrooms do you have?

Speaker 16 (43:47):
Just two?

Speaker 3 (43:50):
Okay? And how far away is the furthest.

Speaker 14 (43:54):
From the water heater in line length, probably.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Thirty or forty feet, And then how far is the
closest one.

Speaker 17 (44:08):
Fifteen feet okay, on the closest.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Bathroom on the close What about the kitchen? Do you
mean the kitchen and one bedroom or are you talking
about the kitchen and two bedrooms?

Speaker 14 (44:21):
Kitchen and two bathrooms?

Speaker 3 (44:22):
When you say two, When you say two bathrooms, you're
not counting the kitchen, right, No, How long does it
take you to get hot water at the kitchen?

Speaker 14 (44:38):
A solid minute?

Speaker 3 (44:40):
How long does it take you to get at the
first bedroom about by ten seconds, okay, and then the
second bedroom two minutes okay. So I would do one
for the kitchen, and I would do one for the
remote bath bedroom. You don't need for the other one,

(45:01):
so I would do two.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
Wouldn't it be a hot?

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Can you do?

Speaker 4 (45:04):
Just to do those insta hats like in the kitchen.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Well for the kitchen or it depends, Bob logan. Insta
hats for the kitchen. Insta hats are good for tea
and for small amounts of water. But if you want
to fill up the basin for a bucket or you
want to fill up the basin for washing dishes, no,
it's not good. Insta hot is not made for that, Bob,
Are you right?

Speaker 4 (45:28):
Do you think so?

Speaker 5 (45:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (45:31):
Like like you said, insta hats are kind of made
for tea, coffee.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
Things like that.

Speaker 5 (45:37):
You know.

Speaker 15 (45:38):
But from my understanding, you got a plumber at your
house or someone who went to your house, I would
rely on the expert. If you've got a handymanage your house,
I wouldn't take them at his work. Some are great,
some aren't. But if you have an expert plumber a
licensed technician. Anything you need one, then one almost If

(46:01):
he says you need four, then you need yeah, I
would truck.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
But you can answer your own question too.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
If you're getting look, if you get hot water thirty
seconds or sooner, I wouldn't mess with it. But that's
up to you, man, that's really up to you. And
like Bob said, they're not going to oversell you. They're
going to tell you need one, you need one or
two or three. You know. Sometimes sometimes you can actually
have one pump and then go to each bathroom and

(46:30):
activate each bathroom as needed. So if there's a remote
bathroom not being used regularly, you can keep that off
so it won't loop, and then you can only you
only have to use it for the ones you want.
There are so many options that a great plumbing contractor
can show you, so good luck to you, Tony. By

(46:54):
the way, plumb Line Services one of our great partners
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a comment? Go ahead, David, what's your comment? David did David?

Speaker 18 (47:13):
You're up?

Speaker 4 (47:14):
Bro? He must have driven Yeah, there he is.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
What's up? Yes, sir, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (47:22):
Well I had one of those systems in Washington, and
I had a whole house one and the pump was
you know, at the hot water tank, and it just
had one line that went to eat sink and then yeah,
back to the hot water tank.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
And good.

Speaker 5 (47:41):
I loved it.

Speaker 19 (47:42):
We moved to Colorado and there's a manifold system and
you know, the sink in the massive bathroom. My wife
would get hers hot. I go, okay, mine, you know,
I had to wait another minute for mine to get
hot because one key, right, And so I'm actually, in fact,

(48:03):
in the next month or two, going to cut holes
in the ceiling in my basement and put a recirculating
line in that goes to each hot water get rid
of the mountain.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
You don't have to do that. You don't have to
do that. Well, you don't have to cut any of.

Speaker 19 (48:20):
What you're talking about, Well, the beyond demand, you don't.
That's the one that you put one in each.

Speaker 14 (48:27):
Pump or at each you don't.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
You don't. Okay, thinks to go David, even for water here.
You don't have to do what you're doing. Why don't
you consult some experts and see and then do what's
best for you.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
But you do not have to run lines.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (48:43):
Well, and the other the one thing is is I
tried to get the code looked at in El Paso
County to say, you know, they're they're worried about hot water.
I mean they're worried about lack of water. And everybody's
letting their sphinks warm up minute or two or however
long it takes, and that water is just going right
down the drain.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
And that's right. You had it with and with the
circular new builds.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
That's right. You're right. It would save water. It would
save water. And by the way, just just so I'm
telling people, and thank you David for calling. Appreciate it.
Three oh three seven to one three talks seven one
three two fivey five. You do not need to run
a line anywhere at any time. With today's technology, you
do not have to do that. There are cross valves

(49:32):
you can do that will keep your water circulating, I
promise you. Three oh three seven one three A two
five five. We have more coming up. Tim's got a
question on a car accident. Matt has a question on
a new sale. We also have that looming problem that
Deputy d's working on that. We'd like to talk to
Matt Stanford at Paragon Services Public Adjusters, and possibly Brad

(49:54):
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three eight two five five. Tim's got a question about
a car accident.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
Tim, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (50:49):
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Go ahead, Tim, Tim, Yes, sir, you are what's happening?

Speaker 13 (51:03):
Tim, Okay, it's Sam.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Oh okay, Well that's okay. Now that's a that's a
testimony to Mimosa's uh kachina.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
You gotta lay off.

Speaker 17 (51:15):
Go ahead, Sam, try that's okay.

Speaker 13 (51:18):
Come on, I just which really appreciated me. Okay. Here's
what's happened. My granddaughter was hit by a city trash
truck last week when it snowed. She was told that
the city of Denver is self ensured. What does she
try to do?

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Well, first of all, she needs to go about this
in a very special way. She's with notifications. Yeah, of course.
But I'm just saying they have to go about this
in a very special way. Most likely, Sam, most likely
the city is not responsible off for this and will

(51:57):
not pay a dime. Okay, because the here's how it works.
If the city is in the normal mode of maintenance
and repair of the infrastructure in the city, they are
immune to most negligent claims for any kind of liability.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
I think they would say, I think they're going to pay.
But I did.

Speaker 7 (52:20):
Let me ask them one question, Tom, was she hurt
or was it just property damage?

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Property?

Speaker 16 (52:26):
They hit her? Part current school?

Speaker 4 (52:28):
Got it?

Speaker 3 (52:29):
Okay, They're most likely not going to pay Sam in
my opinion, But it doesn't have to be a point
of contention. I mean, if they do, I'm hoping they do.
I don't think they will. And I go back years
and years of handling these cases. They take this qualified
immunity pretty seriously and if they violate it, they don't
want people coming back on them. Let me tell you

(52:51):
what qualified immunity what it says. It says that if
they're doing their job in the course of their job.
So if the guy took a trash truck or a
snowplow and he was drunk and he was driving at
willy nilly, not plowing or not picking up garbage, that's
a whole different story. But if he's on the job

(53:15):
collecting trash and it's snowing out and he hits the
parked car, they're not going to be responsible. How did
she know that they did it? Did they leave a note?
What did they do?

Speaker 4 (53:26):
Well?

Speaker 13 (53:26):
Someone came into the school. I'm more than sure it
might have been a truck driver came into the school
over the PA system. They identified her car, She went
to the office, she went outside with them. The police came.
They did a report, but the gentleman told her that
the city was self insured.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
Well, yeah, so it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
I mean self insured simply means they pay the claims
and then if not, then okay.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
My question is that doesn't change.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
See ability does not change based on how they're insured.
If they're liable, they're liable. If they're not, they're not.

Speaker 13 (54:09):
Right now, my question is that she need to go
out and get some estimates and then in turn contact
the city attorney.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
Well, but I said, since there's no injuries involved, that
might be wise. But let me explain something, Sam. She
can go through the process. Okay, Yes, that's the way
to do it. Ask the city attorney or the loss
mitigation officer whoever they're using in the city that ask
them for the steps involved in filing a claim. Okay,

(54:45):
then she will be turned down. If you want to
go see an attorney after that, you can. We can
even get an attorney on to talk about.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
It now if you'd like. But I got Fuller On.
I'm going to is the on right now, John Fuller
and Fuller Law.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
He does, of course personal injury, but he knows so
much about this John of a car is parked a
city trash truck hits it, the weather was bad. They say, well,
we're self insured. You got to go through the claim process.
What are the chances they're going to pay for that car?

Speaker 16 (55:16):
John, probably one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
They will pay one Yeah, of course. And why is that?

Speaker 6 (55:26):
You know, Well, cities are no different than anybody else.
They're operating a vehicle. If they actually end up running
into somebody, they're going to be liable. I've had numerous
cases where you know, city workers, police officers, that kind
of stuff, get into accidents and then every one of
them we are able to We were able to get

(55:49):
those cases resolved.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
So when does qualified immunity come into effect.

Speaker 6 (55:56):
Well, it doesn't come into effect at all for how
they drive a vehicle. So, you know, qualified immunity may
have to do with personal personal responsibility. So so maybe
you say that the the trash drug, Well it's not
going to apply to a trash truck driver. But but
let's say you have a you know, a person who

(56:19):
is a elected official or something. You know, the city's
going to indemnify that person for the losses caused by
them when driving a company vehicle. That's just all that,
That's all there is to it. A qualified immunity has
to do with personal responsibility for taken in the professional capacity.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
I'm in governmental, but maybe I'm saying the same thing. Okay, So,
because because John, let me, let me tell you what
must have changed.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
I'm going to talk about this guy called William Norcross.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
William was in his car and it was park and
a snow truck operator comes barrowing down, plowing snow, runs
into his car and mister Norcross was paralyzed, and they
didn't pay a dime for his car, nor did they
pay a dime for his injuries. And they said that

(57:15):
they were immune from that because they were doing normal
infrastructure repair and maintenance. Now, that was one of about
ten who have called me over the years. So things
must have changed, and I'm happy that they have.

Speaker 6 (57:28):
I'm really sure nothing's changed, Tom. I don't know that case,
but I suspect that, you know, there was an extenuating
circumstance as to where the vehicle was barked or something
along those lines. But normal negligence that is committed by
city workers is absolutely confensible, just as if that driver

(57:52):
were a private citizen.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
Okay, good, Okay, I'm really happy about that, sir, so
you're going to be one reimbursed. She just has to
go through the process. And uh, I want you to
call me and let know how that works out, how
much they pay sure, because I need to put it
in my I need to give accurate answers, and I
want to put that in my records on the call sheet.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
Here, go ahead.

Speaker 13 (58:19):
Oh so I need to call the city attorney and
ask what the process is.

Speaker 7 (58:23):
I'd get estimates, just like you would for anything else.
Go get body shop estimates, and then you're going to
go fill it out, probably online somewhere and submit the estimates.

Speaker 13 (58:32):
Okay, all right, there will be then.

Speaker 7 (58:35):
The self insured part. I just want to revisit real quick.
That's not a big deal if there's self insured. Walmart's
self insured for most things.

Speaker 13 (58:44):
All right, I guess great. Appreciate the information. You guys,
have a great date.

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We have Matt who wants to talk and Kevin. So
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Speaker 6 (01:00:54):
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two five five Kevin, I mean, excuse me, Matt, what's
going on?

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
Matt?

Speaker 16 (01:01:02):
Hey, Tom longtime listener? I? Uh, yes, sir, recently bought
a truck from Clear Shift Auto. It's a gmccira at
four twenty twenty one, uh for with twenty four thousand
miles on it, certified pre owned. So what it was
a twenty twenty three, No, twenty twenty one.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Oh, I'm sorry, And it only had how many miles.

Speaker 17 (01:01:28):
Twenty four eight hundred okay, okay, so kind.

Speaker 16 (01:01:32):
Of barely broken in And I took it for a
test drive it certified, pre owned, everything looks good, signed
the paperwork on Saturday the fifth, and drove it off
the lot and the check engine light came on and
it went in and it wouldn't shift above like four
thousand RPMs.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
So I immediately wait right away, right wait, right away.

Speaker 16 (01:01:55):
It happened like right away, right away.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Did you have you did you ever go on a
test drive? Yeah, he said, you test drove it.

Speaker 7 (01:02:03):
It didn't happen during the test drive, Nope, but it
happened when you literally left the dealership.

Speaker 16 (01:02:10):
Left the dealership on County Line, and uh so I
immediately took it back. The GM, the general manager of
clear Shift, comes out immediately and he's like, let's hook
it up to a code. I'll run it over to
my certified mechanic and we'll see what the issue is.
And he comes back, he says, it's great.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Is it still under warranty?

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
Is it still under.

Speaker 16 (01:02:30):
Warranty under Yes, it's still under a powertrain warranty for
a year and like one hundred thousand miles.

Speaker 17 (01:02:40):
Or something, okay, yeah, and so so he took it to.

Speaker 16 (01:02:46):
His mechanic and the mechanic cleared the codes and said
it was. It went into limp mode learning a new driver,
and I'm like, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Oh that's a but that doesn't sound right to me.
That says a sound right to me.

Speaker 16 (01:03:01):
No, it didn't sound right to me. I've heard of
lip mode and transmissions and learning adaptive learning, but it
shouldn't throw check engine code.

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
Right.

Speaker 16 (01:03:10):
So they cleared the code exactly, and so so my
confidence level was way down. So I negotiated for them
to pay for a third party pre purchase inspection, one
that's not affiliated with them, right.

Speaker 7 (01:03:23):
Except just after purchase. But okay, that's so weird. Why
why would you even care after.

Speaker 16 (01:03:30):
Well, I wanted they cleared the codes, and but I
wanted to make sure nothing else was wrong with it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:35):
Right, Were they going to let you out of the
deal if something was wrong?

Speaker 16 (01:03:41):
Tentatively, I'm sure there's a way I can get out
of a deal if a car breaks down.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
No, there isn't. No, no, no, there isn't. No.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
They know there isn't, but keep going.

Speaker 8 (01:03:49):
But they might have fixed it. Rather than give his
money back, they might have fixed it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Let's let's let him continue. Let's let him continue.

Speaker 16 (01:03:58):
Go ahead, So so they give me the ruck and
I schedule an appointment for the following Wednesday at John
Elway GM for you know, an inspection, right?

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
And and is is John Elway where you bought this?

Speaker 16 (01:04:12):
No, I bought it a clear Shift. John Elway was
just a third party that I used. I have a
couple other mechanics A on your referral list, but I
thought I'd take it into a GM dealer because if
they cleared the codes, the GM computers might be able
to pick it back up because they have that technology.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
What is clear Where is clear Shift located?

Speaker 16 (01:04:32):
It's in between University and Broadway on the county line.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
So what did Elway or Shaw? What what's the get?
What's the deal with it?

Speaker 16 (01:04:41):
Yeah, so they called back. They called back and said
it needs a new UH control valve body, which is
a part in the transmission. So they ordered a new
valve body and a transmission to see which one gets first,
because all of those are on a nationwide or a
national back order at least three to four months. And

(01:05:06):
so this part has been faulty in these years from
twenty to twenty two. I believe all these transmissions, these
ten speed transmissions, and.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
What are they calling this? What are they calling this
back ordered unit.

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
The valve control body yep, yep.

Speaker 16 (01:05:22):
Control valve body and the transmission are both on back
order national back order.

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
But you don't need a transmission.

Speaker 16 (01:05:30):
No, But if they if they get one first because
and not a control body, they could swap that out
if they get permission from GM to do so. Okay,
So they just ordered both of them.

Speaker 7 (01:05:41):
So the issue is what the issue is? You just
bought a truck and you can't drive it because it's
on back order exactly, So is a.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
Dealer going to undo the deal? I mean, have you
even asked them?

Speaker 16 (01:05:51):
They don't have to, so've I. They said that they
were going to call GM on Friday and call me
back that afternoon, and they didn't call me back. I
called him back on Saturday and then again today and
with no answer. So I can't get a hold of them.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
And then all right, hold on, Matt, Let's get Jefffick
on the phone, please, and then hold on all right, man,
just hang on. No sense of mulling this around any longer.
Let's just see what he can find. We can also
get Kevin if you want, but I think this would
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Jeff Fick camer Transmission Swans talk to you real quick, Jeff.

(01:07:42):
So this guy has a truck and they're telling him
his stuff is on National backoder he has a twenty
twenty one GMC Sierra and they say that they they
say that the car went into limp mode for one
way reason or another, but it needs, uh, some kind
of module. What what is that actually called their valve
control body?

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
And they're on national back order? You know that?

Speaker 5 (01:08:07):
Is it the six eight or ten speed?

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
Matt six six eight or ten speed?

Speaker 16 (01:08:16):
It's the ten L eighty.

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
Yeah, there's ten speed possibly that that's I'm backward correct.
So those they've been falling like flies and so the
inventory has been washed up.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Okay, and uh and so are the transmissions? Now how
long does that if you wanted to order that, how
long would it take you?

Speaker 5 (01:08:40):
Well, I would have to talk to dealer to find
out that. I don't know whether or not. You know,
they've got them all on the captive. When they're supposed
to have a release date. If they have a projected
release date, they can vary. Wow, yeah, you're literally So
so we.

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
Have this age old problem we come up against. What
do we do about it?

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
When you have something that can't be fixed and they
can't tell him when he's going to have use of
his truck?

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
What is the what's the remedy.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
You know, listen, the reason I don't know the remedy
is because I don't think this has really been an
issue up till COVID. I don't know why COVID changed things,
but it did.

Speaker 5 (01:09:24):
It did just a hard time fine and not only employees,
but qualified employees. And then you've got trucking issues. And
I think a lot of these companies also found that
they don't necessarily have to hold inventory in stock people
who are going to buy anyway, so they a low
way the tax burk.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
We have to find out from an attorney what do
you do when they can't find the part? Should we
call that one attorney on Lemon issues and ask hold
on Matt, Maybe we'll get an expert opinion on here.
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Speaker 5 (01:10:46):
Rip.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
You need advice so you don't have.

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Come run ins as we can. No shoot's gonna help
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Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
This is the Troubleshooter Show.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
No Tom Martine, Tom Martino here three oh three seven
one three talk three oh three seven one three eight
two five five. No luck getting Brad O'Brien for that
one condo problem that's just terrible. Or Matt Stamford at
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have done that when I was taking that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
Okay, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
So so what did he say.

Speaker 4 (01:11:31):
About what she can do?

Speaker 7 (01:11:32):
She needs to hire an attorney at this point, it's
been two and a half years. And the other problem
that Dmitri was, you know, telling us about, is you know,
there's mold in everything there now, but she hasn't mitigated
any of her damages for two and a half years.
There's no way her insurance company's going to pay for
that stuff. Oh man, well, I think that she's got

(01:11:54):
to hire an Attorney's the bottom line.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Yeah, And the way we left it is Brad agreed
to have an initial consultation with her to kind of
take a look at her case on paper and there's
anything he can do to help. And we also discussed
having or asking inviting Matt from Paragon Services to go
over there to see if he can be an assistant.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
And that's one thing I want to.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
Do Farmer's insurance so at least pay for her personal
property which they haven't paid for. And maybe he can
even figure out a way to finagle some settlement for
the mold issue that's going on over there. But we'll
see what Brad says after he meets with Kolea.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
All right, three oh three seven one three eight two
five five. Now Rain isn't a meeting the attorney. We'll
try to get to her after that. I want to
take Kevin's comment real quick. Then I'll go back to
this age old problem. What do you do when you
have a truck a car and it's just out of
service and they cannot they just cannot get the part. Kevin,

(01:12:54):
you want to give a shout out, Kevin, go ahead, sir.

Speaker 18 (01:12:57):
Hey Tom. About eight months ago I had a new
driveway poured and the contractor didn't protect the first poor
the first half of the driveway, and they got severely
rained on. And after a year or so, we had
a lot of spawling and cracking that was occurring that
shouldn't have been occurring. And so I had talked with

(01:13:20):
I think you and John Fuller in August of twenty
four and you had suggested I take him a small
claims court. I talked with Bob at Lam. He gave
me a great professional statements in terms of what likely
caused the concrete spalling to occur and what should have

(01:13:43):
what the contractor should.

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
Have done but didn't do.

Speaker 18 (01:13:46):
And I used that all in a presentation at small
claims court and the judge agreed with everything, and he
paid particular attention to the statement that Bob at Lam
had provided.

Speaker 5 (01:13:58):
And I walked away with.

Speaker 18 (01:13:59):
The full amount in small claims court.

Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
And did he pay?

Speaker 5 (01:14:05):
He did? He did?

Speaker 18 (01:14:05):
He The contractor paid right away basically, and so that
was a wow do in large part to Bob's professional
expert opinion that I was able to make use of
during the small claims proceedings.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
God, that's good to hear man.

Speaker 18 (01:14:25):
That was a seventy five dollars plus fees a reward award.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
I have, I have the notes here. Now hold on,
And that was did you call in August of twenty
twenty four?

Speaker 16 (01:14:38):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
And what does what did Elite have to do? Were
they on as an expert? No, we told you to
call Elite, but then you ended up you ended up
getting Bob on right.

Speaker 18 (01:14:54):
Yeah, Actually it's a little odd. Elite Concrete is the
name of the contry tractor that did the work.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
Oh, I'm soon. I'm sorry. It wasn't our Elite people.
Got it, got it, got it? Okay, I'm sorry I
made a mistake. Okay, good phew, because we never had
complaints about that guy either. Okay. So so it was
Bob at We love Bob at l e M. He
provided the.

Speaker 18 (01:15:22):
Go ahead, Yeah, he he. We we talked quite a bit.
I'm never actually met in person yet. I want to
bring him on for some work. We got some other
work around the house.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
But so when you got the refund, what are you
doing about the spalling.

Speaker 18 (01:15:37):
So have another another company that's come in and is
doing a different approach to essentially grinding down that existing surface,
putting a new new material overlay on it, and then
going to put down some good some sort of epoxy
type system with some grit into it to events slipping
and stuff like that. And so far that's that's looking

(01:15:59):
pretty good, that that repair.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
I'm just surprised that that contractor paid. That's good man.

Speaker 18 (01:16:10):
I despite the troubles we had, I would say that
he was. He was honorable in his approach to get
the problems sakes as far as repay, as far as
paying the fine or the the the the the small
claims court fine. So he was he was actually kind
of worried about not getting that taken care of. He
got taken care of right away, and so from that standpoint,

(01:16:32):
he was.

Speaker 5 (01:16:33):
He was good.

Speaker 18 (01:16:34):
He was a little surprised, I think during the court itself,
because I really I got the impression that he was.
I had a he had a contract, and he had
a warranty that went for a year. I think he
thought he was in the in the clear because it
was after his warranty had expired. And I told the
judge that I had spoken with Elite prior to the
expiration of the warranty, and still he maintained that the

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spawling was just normal wear and tear, and the judge
obviously did not agree with that given the lack of
protection during the rainstorm on newly poured concrete.

Speaker 4 (01:17:10):
Thank you, we appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
Three three, seven to one, three talks seven one three
eight two, five to five. So we come up against
this problem quite a bit, mark and the old ways
aren't going to work. We used to say they have
an opportunity to fix it, and but we've had this
more than once. Now Matt's the latest one to call

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the show with the issue.

Speaker 4 (01:17:34):
A part is needed on his vehicle.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
It's useless without it, and he is doing nothing but
waiting for a part.

Speaker 4 (01:17:44):
What do you do now, Matt?

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
Before we get too involved in this, let's ask the
obvious question. Did the dealer provide you or someone provide
you any replacement vehicle for temporary at all?

Speaker 16 (01:18:01):
No, not the dealership that I bought it from. Now,
the GM dealer said they could possibly make the arrangement
for a loaner vehicle through enterprise if the vehicle is
in my name and it hasn't even done any of
that paperwork yet as far as being in my name,

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like there's it's not ten tens.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
But if it's in your name, if it's in your name,
you mean titled and all that which takes thirty or
sixty days or forty five to sixty days, then you
could possibly get a replacement vehicle.

Speaker 16 (01:18:37):
Yes, a loaner from enterprise for like Chevy Malibu or
something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
Why would they do that?

Speaker 16 (01:18:46):
Why would they get me a loan?

Speaker 7 (01:18:47):
Why would that dealer do that? Yeah, they probably they're
not even the one that sold it. They probably get
it paid for because it's under warranty by the manufacturer.

Speaker 16 (01:18:56):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Okay, all right, well get that done pretty quickly, man,
get that done pretty quickly. Hey, Matt, this is Deputy D.
I got a question for you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
Did you did you get a chance to ask the
stealer to.

Speaker 16 (01:19:09):
Bill excuse me say that again, sorry, the.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
Dealer where you bought this truck?

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
Did you did you ask him if they want to
just undo the deal, give you back your money and
then you'll find something else.

Speaker 16 (01:19:23):
Well, that's the challenge is I can't get a hold
of them.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
So, I, what do you mean you can't get a
hold What do you mean?

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
What do you mean? So they got a whole dealership over.

Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
There, What do you mean you w what do you
mean you can't get a hold of him?

Speaker 16 (01:19:35):
Well, well, well he said he'd call me back on Friday,
and he didn't. I followed up with him on Saturday
and left the voicemail, and then I followed up with
him to what.

Speaker 7 (01:19:44):
Do you want from him? We can assign a deputy
to it. But what are you asking for?

Speaker 4 (01:19:48):
Refund?

Speaker 5 (01:19:49):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
Yeah, they're not going to be able to make the part.

Speaker 16 (01:19:55):
Yeah, of course, I you know, in purchase a vehicle,
I kind of wanted to be reassured that it was
a quality vehicle. And if they replace.

Speaker 3 (01:20:05):
Them, well there's no reassurance. Let's talk about now, man,
let's just talk about now.

Speaker 4 (01:20:09):
What do you want.

Speaker 16 (01:20:12):
Some communication? I guess, but I you know, I liked
the truck, I really did, and but I don't want
to buy a truck that's going to be broken. And
my research says that all twenty to twenty two GMCs
that have that ten speed in it are bad, And
so that's kind of what how about?

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
How about you go over there. I'm going to ask
you again, bro, because you can only answer this, what
do you want.

Speaker 16 (01:20:37):
To undo the deal?

Speaker 5 (01:20:39):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
Okay, but you don't necessarily want another one. I get it,
I want to under the deal.

Speaker 4 (01:20:46):
Yeah, And we go over there.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
And ask them, Yeah, come mat how about how about
you go over there this afternoon and uh and ask
for the general manager and tell them, tell them what
the issue is. The truck broke down the moment you
drove away with it, parts aren't available, and you'd like
to undo the deal and tell me especially it hasn't
been titled.

Speaker 16 (01:21:07):
Yet, and yeah, that's what I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
Do, and then give us a call back and yeah,
and then give us a call back and let us
know what.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
Did you say? The name of the selling dealer.

Speaker 16 (01:21:16):
Is clear Shift.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
Yeah, head on over to clear Shift.

Speaker 16 (01:21:22):
Yeah. And they've been pretty great, I say, I believe
he's going to work with me here.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
Well, no, they haven't been because they're not returning your calls.
So so just I think it's an easy I think
it's an easy question to answer. Go over there and say, look,
here's the deal, here's the keys. Can I have my
check back and let us know what he says's good,
I'll do that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
I mean I would if I were you, But Tom,
I can't lose by going over there.

Speaker 7 (01:21:52):
Did you see they arrested another dude for setting a fire,
another arsonist in California. This comes just days after an
illegal immigrant was detained for allegedly setting a fire in Calabasas.

Speaker 4 (01:22:05):
I think I'm pronouncing that right near Beverly Hills. Yeah, yeah,
that's right. So another one.

Speaker 8 (01:22:12):
Hey, isn't that where they have the frog jumping Marke petition?

Speaker 7 (01:22:15):
There's like homeless and illegals running around lighting fires according
to these stories.

Speaker 4 (01:22:21):
But what what is their game? What's the reason?

Speaker 7 (01:22:23):
Who the hell knows? They're crazy? I mean, what else
would it be. They're they're mentally messed.

Speaker 3 (01:22:28):
Up to what are we going to do with my maniacs?

Speaker 8 (01:22:34):
Set fires just to set fires?

Speaker 7 (01:22:36):
He's going to go talk to the dealer, see what
they say, and if they're not going to do anything
for him to me, he's going to Doc or someone
will get involved.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
Man, Man, can you give us a call back tomorrow
and let us know, let Doc know and all of
us know what the dealer says about undoing this deal?

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
Yeah, yea yeah, call us back three oh three, seven
to one to three tough, Okay, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:23:00):
Physical We're gonna we're gonna get to the bottom of that, folks.

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
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Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.
Hi Tom Martino here three oh three seven one three
talk seven one three eight two five five. Welcome to
the show. Let's continue, Francisco. You have a question about

(01:24:29):
a DUI.

Speaker 4 (01:24:29):
What's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
Francisco?

Speaker 18 (01:24:33):
Hello, Tom, hey man, what's going on?

Speaker 16 (01:24:37):
Can I say something? Can I say something?

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
You absolutely can? Yes, sir, Yes, sir, okay.

Speaker 15 (01:24:44):
I just want to say that I liked Mark, but
sometimes he's too intense for me. That's all I want
to say.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
You know what, Mark is sometimes too intense, But Mark
is sometimes too intense for me, but they're never a moment.
I regretted having that intensity anyway. I don't know how
to other I don't know how otherwise to put that.
I think that came across right, But that's way.

Speaker 4 (01:25:13):
I want to know. What was too intense today? Though?
Well it's Francisco. What was too and Mark? Mark?

Speaker 3 (01:25:20):
I didn't use I didn't use the word too intense,
high intensity.

Speaker 4 (01:25:24):
I'm meant I'm talking about I'm talking to Francisco.

Speaker 5 (01:25:27):
Though.

Speaker 4 (01:25:29):
Yeah, it's fair to ask about.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
But listen, man, you know what, Here's what I've here's
what I've come to grips with and I'll let Francisco finish.
I've really come to grips with this, no matter what
I've done in life, and I swear to God, I'm
not trying to be some philosopher. I used to try
to really be all things to all people and please
people in a way that pleased people.

Speaker 4 (01:25:52):
But you can't.

Speaker 3 (01:25:53):
So what I try to do is please myself and
then help others. And then as long as the ultimate
goal is help helping others, if I stumble along the way,
as long as people know that I have my eye
on the prize of helping people, I think that all's forgiven.
In the long run.

Speaker 4 (01:26:09):
I get heated, I get.

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
Intense, I get insulting sometimes and I don't mean to.
But in any case, Francisco, certainly I.

Speaker 4 (01:26:18):
Still I still certainly know what.

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
He's referring to today, though certainly I'm going to say that, Francisco,
certainly you must have like some examples.

Speaker 7 (01:26:29):
Maybe is it the wildfire, the people getting arrested, the
homeless bums running around lighting fires?

Speaker 4 (01:26:35):
Did that get to you?

Speaker 15 (01:26:40):
No, it is not just today, Mark, it's other times
as well.

Speaker 3 (01:26:45):
It's okay, No, it is okay, And Francisco, you're valid
I mean, you can have whatever opinion you want.

Speaker 7 (01:26:54):
He was just probe trying to figure out what he's
even referring to, Like, am I being too intense right now?

Speaker 16 (01:27:01):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (01:27:02):
Its sense, Markets, let me say something.

Speaker 15 (01:27:05):
When you elevate your voice, that's not the issue.

Speaker 4 (01:27:07):
What is it? That's what I'm asking. What is it?

Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
Well, you know what, maybe he can't put his finger
on it right now, Let me about that something.

Speaker 16 (01:27:14):
Market repeat yourself too much about the same issues, Francis.

Speaker 4 (01:27:21):
Let the doc. He's a doc.

Speaker 7 (01:27:22):
Man, I get it now that I understand. Stop Mark
and stop serious, doc, but.

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
Stop marginalizing people who have disagreements or thinking where he sits? Okay,
what were you going to say? By the way, doc, quickly, please,
let's let let's talk to him.

Speaker 8 (01:27:41):
Market's intense and angry when people rip off helpless other people.

Speaker 4 (01:27:46):
He's not talking about that.

Speaker 6 (01:27:47):
That's it is.

Speaker 8 (01:27:48):
That's he's not.

Speaker 4 (01:27:49):
Talking about that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
No he's not, No, he's not.

Speaker 4 (01:27:52):
No, he's not.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
Hey, Francisco, how about you tell us how we can
be of assistance with your GUI. You and we're going
to make sure that Mark is not the one helping
you out on it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:03):
We're just kidding. Go ahead, Francisco, what's going on? What's
going on?

Speaker 16 (01:28:07):
Man?

Speaker 5 (01:28:09):
Anyway?

Speaker 15 (01:28:10):
So my son got a dui last Saturday and tour Collins.

Speaker 16 (01:28:15):
So my question is is it better to use a
lawyer all the time when you.

Speaker 7 (01:28:19):
Go through this always you have, always, always, always, Francoisco
seriously called Joe Lazara. You'll give you a flat rate
price for your son, or have your son called. But
you'd be crazier. He'd be crazy not to have an attorney. Period.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
Yeah, it's two. It's really too serious. Well, I'll tell
you a couple of reasons. First of all, there are
two things going on. One is a criminal offense and
one is a DMV offense the motor vehicle. Both of
them have to be handled separately, and both of them
can have different outcomes, and both of them have different

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deadlines for filing different responses.

Speaker 4 (01:29:00):
And you, if you don't know what you're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
The prosecutor's job is to dispose of these as quickly
as possible with advantage to the state. It's just the system.
Was it his first one, Francisco?

Speaker 16 (01:29:19):
Oh yeah, he never had a ticket or anything.

Speaker 4 (01:29:22):
Okay, Now, how intense was that? How intense?

Speaker 3 (01:29:25):
How intense was the intoxification intoxication. I mean he refused
the breathalyzer, and he took him to the.

Speaker 5 (01:29:38):
Well and they took him.

Speaker 12 (01:29:41):
To do a blood test.

Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
Okay, okay, he did not refuse the blood test, then good.

Speaker 7 (01:29:48):
There's actually some good news to that, the fact they
forced him on that blood test.

Speaker 4 (01:29:52):
And I'll tell you what the good news is.

Speaker 7 (01:29:53):
If they didn't do the blood or if they didn't
do the breath he would have lost his license.

Speaker 4 (01:29:58):
For one year. First the fans period, Yeah, so what
did the blood test show?

Speaker 16 (01:30:07):
So it was going what did.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
As opposed?

Speaker 4 (01:30:11):
I forget what, but it is. I don't know the
numbers either. Is Joe Lazara available right now?

Speaker 20 (01:30:19):
He is nice?

Speaker 4 (01:30:20):
Is he available right now? We already tried him. Okay,
so here's what you do. You call him?

Speaker 20 (01:30:27):
That's working poor Collins pretty much.

Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
And I think he does. I know, or I will
say this one thing Joe will do. Listen carefully. He'll
give you some free advice up front, no charge. He
will listen to the case. And if he takes it,
it's a flat rate.

Speaker 4 (01:30:47):
Okay, you know it says here, listen to this time.
I didn't know this. It says a blood alcohol. Let
me give the.

Speaker 3 (01:30:52):
Number out first, Mark, Mark, let me just give out
the number first. Three oh three four to nine six
two zero zero four to nine sixty two hundred Go ahead, Mark.

Speaker 7 (01:31:04):
I'm sure what he meant was point zero nine, because
if he was point nine, the kid be dead. But
point zero nine is just kind of I don't want
to say barely over. But it's it's it's close. I mean,
Joe might be able to really dig his teeth into
something here. I don't know if you can argue on
a I just don't know, but it's well worth that

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phone call to him.

Speaker 4 (01:31:27):
Man, even if I'm too intense.

Speaker 16 (01:31:33):
Keep it up, March.

Speaker 14 (01:31:34):
You're You're very helpful.

Speaker 16 (01:31:35):
You helpful lot of people, So thank you. Keep it up.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
Yeah, yeah, so listen, man, just please, I please, don't
try to do it.

Speaker 7 (01:31:44):
He'll talk to you guys. Think you too, man, In fact,
ask him that question. You know what, Francisco, I think
you should ask Joe and then report back to us
in this particular case. What's the benefit of using an attorney?
Please help me out?

Speaker 4 (01:32:00):
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discovered that this being drunk and refusing or not refusing basically,
I don't know what happens if you refuse and they
force you to do it through court order. But are
you sure that's what happened? Can they force you in
a court order.

Speaker 4 (01:33:13):
To do a blood test? Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
You're sure of that?

Speaker 8 (01:33:17):
I am one hundred percent shu.

Speaker 4 (01:33:19):
Almost every time too. So is that then I get
the mandatory?

Speaker 7 (01:33:25):
That's a refusal because you're refusing until the court order.
So does that mean and the DMV hearings all we're
talking about here?

Speaker 4 (01:33:32):
Does that mean you lose your license for that year.
I I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:33:40):
Especially let's say the results came back and you were
not intoxicated, would you still lose your license? We got
to ask Joe. Is Joe just not around today at all?
Is that the whole deal?

Speaker 10 (01:33:52):
No, he's in a meeting. He said that he would
probably be out in a couple hours.

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
So let's just talk to him and see what happens.
Years and years ago, I was stopped once in my
entire life for suspicion of drunk driving. I think it
was because he said, sir, step out of the car,
and then he said, can you stand on your one
foot and do this?

Speaker 4 (01:34:17):
And do that?

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
And I was so nervous. This is what I said
to him. And by the way, I truly, truly, truly,
truly had one margarita at my home that afternoon. So
I was leaving the house and driving into Parker and
I was so nervous when he stopped me. This had
to have been thirty more than thirty years ago. I

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said to him, I can't even do this when I'm sober.
I was laughing, and he said, sir, can you take
a breathalyzer?

Speaker 4 (01:34:52):
I said, only on one condition. I really want you.

Speaker 3 (01:34:56):
To call right now for the blood test, please please,
and I will do both. So I did the breath
test and he said, okay, we will call for the
blood test. That I waited for this van, I didn't
have to go to the hospital. They did it with
this big police thing. I thought, yeah they did. I remember,
I remember waiting for that big van, and yeah, it

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must because I didn't go to a hospital.

Speaker 8 (01:35:23):
What did What did the breakfast show Tom.

Speaker 4 (01:35:28):
That I was.

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
Right at the tip, right underneath the tip?

Speaker 4 (01:35:36):
Yeah? Yeah, well wait, but okay, hold.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
On, hold on, hold on. But the blood test showed less,
way less, because I think the proximity of the drink
had something to do with the actual blood level. And so,
and honest to God, I know a lot of people
say I just had wondering, but I really did.

Speaker 4 (01:35:52):
I mean I really truly did. So you know, they
let me go.

Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
There was no no incident, nothing, no recording of it ever.
But but I remember saying, I really want to know,
because I swear to God, if one margarite is going
to make me drunk, I have a problem. And so
there was no incident. They were very kind, but I
did the roadside, you know. And I didn't fail the roadside.
I mean, I was a little nervous, but I made

(01:36:17):
that stupid comment. But that was the only time I've
ever stopped. Were you ever stop Mark for suspicion ever?

Speaker 5 (01:36:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:36:25):
I did.

Speaker 7 (01:36:25):
After the Scott Lacy deal, they were basically following me
everywhere man for a.

Speaker 4 (01:36:31):
Period of time.

Speaker 7 (01:36:32):
The Scott Lacy deal was a Parker cop that lived
three or four homes over that blew his brains out
after I turned him in for selling silencers, and the
whole police department in Parker at that point was very
upset with me.

Speaker 4 (01:36:49):
Period end of story.

Speaker 8 (01:36:52):
And Pam Okay, I will bet you that Lazara and
any other law you talked to will tell you never
take to feel sobriety test. It's totally subjective and there's
no way you're going to pass it unless you're cold, sown,
sober at blowing zeros.

Speaker 3 (01:37:11):
Now, Doc, did you ever get stopped?

Speaker 8 (01:37:13):
No, I've never. I've I've been stopped, but only two
or three times I've been stopped coming home from the mountains.
And when the officer said licensed registration and I said,
he you go, officer. They never smell alcohol in my
breath because I haven't had a drink since nineteen ninety five.

Speaker 4 (01:37:31):
And that's coming you mean, coming home from from the casinos.

Speaker 3 (01:37:36):
They just want, Oh, I didn't really, so you haven't
you never drink anyway, But the point is that I'm.

Speaker 8 (01:37:41):
I was so happy they stopped me because on that
canyon road you do not want drunk drivers. So as
soon as they realize that you're not drunk, they don't.
They didn't even check anything. They just said, okay, just
drive carefully.

Speaker 4 (01:37:55):
Okay, So.

Speaker 3 (01:37:58):
Anyone else bo you ever stopped?

Speaker 8 (01:38:01):
I got stopped on one of these deals.

Speaker 11 (01:38:03):
I don't think they do them anymore where they would
just block the hole on Wadsworth they would pull everybody over.

Speaker 4 (01:38:09):
Oh no, they still do them, for sure.

Speaker 11 (01:38:11):
And then the office check pust me. My lawyer always
told me, even if you had a drink, say no.
So the officer came up and said, have you been drinking?
And I just said no, and then it was this
end of conversation. But even if you said you had
I've had a drink of lemonade, they would probably get
you out of the car. But I just don't think
I think that's an unconstitutional just pulling everybody over.

Speaker 7 (01:38:34):
Well, they have to put up signs telling you that
the point is coming up and give you a way
to exit and decide not to.

Speaker 4 (01:38:41):
Go through it. That's the biggest thing.

Speaker 8 (01:38:44):
Now, what's the point of it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:45):
But they also have chase cars.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
They have chase cars that are stationed well ahead of
that point, and if they see you pull over, they
go illegally follow you and then they try to come
up with some excuse to stop you.

Speaker 7 (01:38:59):
I would agree with that. I would agree, but like
you said, illegally, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
It's totally illegal. But they do that kind of stuff
all the time. I got pulled over at a or
stopped at one of those checkpoints that Bow just described,
and I wasn't drinking.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
I stopped, rolled down my window.

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
This cop shoved his whole face through the window right
up to me in these huge, huge mustache. It looked
like he was eating a squirrel. That mustache was so big,
and he starts moving it around and sniffing like a
vacuum cleaner.

Speaker 3 (01:39:31):
But I passed the I passed the sniff test and
they let me go.

Speaker 8 (01:39:34):
That's why you can only end window down two or
three inches, so you can pass your license and registration.
How about the window?

Speaker 7 (01:39:42):
How about these people that smoked that dope in their car? Though, Man,
you can smell that stuff like crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:39:47):
Smell that across the street.

Speaker 3 (01:39:49):
Oh, I smelled a red lights.

Speaker 4 (01:39:50):
I smell it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:51):
Driving marijuana, Yeah, marijuana, you didc indefinitely. You can definitely
smell marijuana.

Speaker 4 (01:39:57):
If they had breath test for hope.

Speaker 8 (01:40:01):
Well remember that that I was talking about with my
reaction test.

Speaker 7 (01:40:07):
You guys, as I mean people, if you were getting
a drunk on a WKRP in Cincinnati, they had the
state patrol in there, and every time you take a shot,
you'd have to hit the buzzer.

Speaker 4 (01:40:17):
And the more he drank, the faster he got I have.
That's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:40:21):
It's funny anyway, three oh three seven one three talk
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(01:41:26):
Tom Marsino here three O three seven one three talk
seven one three eight two five five. Let's see what's
on your mind. And we've been talking about a lot
of important stuff today, a lot. First of all, with
qualified immunity or governmental immunity. I used to think, no

(01:41:49):
matter what, if they're in the performance of normal maintenance
and repairs of a city, they're not liable for negligence.
There's some differences there, and John Fuller sent me a
bunch of stuff about it. First and foremost, let's take

(01:42:11):
the operation of motor vehicles. If they're negligent in the
operation of a motor vehicle, even if they're carrying out
work of the city, they're not liable. However, there have
been some cases where front end loaders, roadscrapers, snowplows, and

(01:42:38):
other vehicles were not considered motor vehicles. Some cases have
interpreted motor vehicles as cars and trucks. So that's one thing.
The giant snowplows and road and grading equipment and bulldozers
and stuff may not be considered motor vehicles in some cases.

(01:43:00):
Then there's the matter of structure itself, meaning potholes or
something falls over, something hits you. Now, in those cases,
governmental immunity kicks in. It's not the operation of a
motor vehicle, it's something that happened. If they have a

(01:43:23):
regular schedule of maintenance, they're really not held accountable for
each and everything that goes wrong when people have cars
destroyed or hurt, sometimes even death, Okay, it just they
In fact, there was a famous case where bowlders fell

(01:43:45):
off of a highway in Colorado, hit a bus and
cars and killed people, and immunity would have kicked in,
but because of a public outcry, they made a special
special legislation to waive their.

Speaker 4 (01:44:04):
Immunity for that case. I remember that.

Speaker 3 (01:44:08):
So it's not simply they're not responsible for anything, but
it depends on what it is when it comes to
immunity of a government. Three o three seven one three
talk three oh three seven to one three eight two
five five. So what else is in the news. This

(01:44:32):
is something I made a decision on. There has never
been in the history of technology more hacking than ever.
I mean more hacking. So we have more hacking than ever.
It's absolutely mind boggling. What is going on in cybersecurity people.

(01:44:59):
Some people are awakening to completely they're they're penniless, their
money's been taken. In some cases, it shows that people
even verified their code with cloned cell phones. It's terrible.
So what's going on about that? I'm going to tell

(01:45:20):
you the only solution I found, honest to.

Speaker 4 (01:45:22):
God, and I'm doing it. I'm no longer putting.

Speaker 3 (01:45:25):
It off, and I've read about it, I've ordered them,
and i want to know what you think about it too,
So whatever's on your mind, give us a call. Three
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Speaker 4 (01:46:20):
Ripped up.

Speaker 16 (01:46:22):
New needed.

Speaker 3 (01:46:24):
That's who you don't have.

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Run anxious sustas as we can.

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Shooter's gonna help.

Speaker 8 (01:46:32):
Come man, this.

Speaker 4 (01:46:35):
Is the Troubleshooter Show. Now, Tom Martino, Hi.

Speaker 3 (01:46:42):
Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show. Three O three
seven one three talk seven one three eight two five five.
Here to help you solve problems, answer questions taking place,
make your life a little easier. That's what we love
to do. And so all you have to do is
call me and we will get right on the problem, question,
complaint and try to make things easier for you anyway

(01:47:03):
we can. So I'm going to bring in the studio,
say hi to my peeps over there, and We're going
to go right to the phones if you have calls,
and now we've calls have been spotty today, but it's
given us plenty of time to catch up on stuff
and things that are on your mind. So three oh

(01:47:24):
three seven one three talk three oh three seven one
three eight two five five. Now what does this mean?
How are your recommendations today? Mark? Did you put up that.

Speaker 4 (01:47:36):
Poll on YouTube? I don't know what that means. I
have no idea what you're talking about, to be quite honest.

Speaker 3 (01:47:42):
If you look at my YouTube, never mind, I'm something
came up a questionnaire. Maybe it was from YouTube and
not from us, but anyway, so welcome to the show, folks.
Some of the things that I really want to recap.
We're having a nationwide problem on this with some items,
and I still don't have an ant, sir, and we're
going to try to get an answer. I don't know

(01:48:03):
if our Lemon Law attorney is still off or on
a meet in a meeting, but we have had a
number of issues where people have had cars grounded. You know,
they can't use them and they're in they're under warranty.
The dealer acknowledges the manufacturer acknowledges, but they can't find

(01:48:29):
the parts.

Speaker 4 (01:48:30):
They're on national back order. So what happens?

Speaker 3 (01:48:33):
I mean, certainly this is happening all over the country.
Certainly there has to be some kind of a remedy.
Do you think the manufacturer should pay for replacement vehicles?

Speaker 4 (01:48:48):
I think in a way, yeah, in a way, I
think they should.

Speaker 3 (01:48:51):
What if you have to have a vehicle in a
shop and you can't drive it. Now, some of them
you can drive. We've had cases where some people can drive,
but they don't want to. They say you can't trust it.
I had this one woman from next door who contact
us and says, sure, Tom, technically I can drive, but

(01:49:14):
sometimes I get stuck and I forget what the issue
was on that one. And I told her, as long
as they're giving you a replacement vehicle, and with her
they were, they were giving her a replacement vehicle. I said,
as long as they're doing that, you can, you know,
I think you can give them a break. Yeah, it's

(01:49:34):
not the vehicle you will you bought, But think about this,
you're the vehicle you bought is not being used. You're
not putting miles on it, you're not putting an age
on it, So it is helping a bit three oh
three seven one three talk seven one three eight two
five five. But what would you do personally, Mark? What
would you do personally if you had one of your vehicles,

(01:49:57):
one of your nice vehicles, and you couldn't drive it
he literally couldn't drive it due to national back order.

Speaker 7 (01:50:03):
Well, I mean I'd have to drive something else. That's
pretty simple. So I drive something else, I know. But
what would you do as a barking man? I mean,
you really can't blame the dealers, So I would be
bugging the manufacturer constantly. I'd be on the airwaves like
this every day talking about it. I mean, that's what
I'd be doing. What else can you do?

Speaker 4 (01:50:23):
Though? I know?

Speaker 3 (01:50:26):
I mean, and I think a replacement vehicle to me
is apropos. If they do a replacement vehicle, I'd be satisfied.
I don't think I'd be satisfied the other way around.
If it just sat there and I was doing renting,
I mean I would not put up with it. I

(01:50:46):
would absolutely positively not put up with it.

Speaker 7 (01:50:50):
Well, and so if they give you a loaner vehicle,
like you said, I mean, that's one thing that guy
couldn't get a loaner vehicle because the damn vehicle broke
down the day. So I want to go back and
rephrase the question you asked me, or reframe it. If
I was that guy and I bought a used vehicle
that was under manufacturer's warranty and got one block from

(01:51:11):
the dealership I bought it from, and it broke down
and now I couldn't drive it, I would make everybody's
life miserable at that dealership.

Speaker 3 (01:51:22):
Hmmm, I see what you're saying, right, because you would
feel like, hey, this whole thing sucks.

Speaker 4 (01:51:29):
I mean, I mean what now do you think a
dealer would be.

Speaker 8 (01:51:34):
I would park the car outside the dealership with all
sorts of signs on it so that everybody who's going
into that dealership saw what was going on. I agree
with Mark, That's what I would do.

Speaker 4 (01:51:45):
But would you this is this is an odd one again.

Speaker 3 (01:51:50):
Would you feel like like the dealer themselves, the dealer
are the ones that owe that to.

Speaker 4 (01:52:00):
You, the dealer.

Speaker 7 (01:52:01):
If I bought it from the dealership and literally as
I'm leaving the parking lot, it breaks, yeah, I think so?

Speaker 3 (01:52:13):
Well, And really, Mark, does it matter if it breaks
when you're leaving, or if it breaks, you know, I
mean that part does that breaks.

Speaker 4 (01:52:20):
A month later?

Speaker 7 (01:52:21):
I guess I think that's it. Of course, that's a
huge difference, like literally, you dred. This guy claims he
left and it broke the second he left Kenthin.

Speaker 4 (01:52:34):
If he had it a couple months.

Speaker 3 (01:52:39):
Of course, yes, yes, yes, But still I'd be pissed off.
I mean, let's face it, you know, I mean I'd
be pissed off if I couldn't drive it.

Speaker 7 (01:52:46):
Yeah, but a couple months later you could always argue that,
you know, the dealer could have never have known that
was going to happen. They never would have they would
have never have seen the issue. I mean, there's an
argument to be said. But when it breaks, literally the
second drive off, I'd be thinking, now, wait a minute,
how would they possibly not know there was an issue here?

Speaker 8 (01:53:06):
Is there any way to put pressure on the dealership
to force the like a bunch of dealerships get together
and force the manufacturer to play for a replacement car?

Speaker 7 (01:53:18):
Well, I think they should under the GMC warranty. The
problem with this guy is he didn't register the vehicle
yet because he was just leaving, So they can't even
get him a free loaner car until he does that.

Speaker 8 (01:53:29):
Right, But they're going to they should be.

Speaker 7 (01:53:31):
Yes, they'll probably just rent them one and then the
manufacturer pays for it or reimburse the.

Speaker 4 (01:53:39):
One guy.

Speaker 3 (01:53:39):
By the way, speaking of our topics today, one was
recirculating hot water loops. Now there are some of them
you can get on Amazon that you can install yourself. Now,
I'm not going to say it's a walk in the park,
but it involves obviously shutting off the water and stolling

(01:54:02):
a pump and then a crossover fitting so it can
go from the hot water up over down the cold
water return until you need it.

Speaker 4 (01:54:10):
Then it disengages.

Speaker 3 (01:54:12):
It's all automatic. But what I'm getting at is this
is that they say that they have one in their
house that has multi rooms and you can actually use
Alexis to turn on and off. So if you have
a bedroom that's remote and you have guests coming over

(01:54:32):
and they're gonna be using hot water that night and
then for a week, you know, you know, you can
say Alexis, turn on the hot water loop for bedroom
number four or whatever. So there are so many solutions
that you should just look for. But hot water loops
are cost effective, they actually waste less water, and in

(01:54:57):
the long run they're not bad. So that's on that
topic that was texted to me. Another one wants to
know with Wave wealth management, when I talk about customizing portfolios,
do we lose out on volume trading with portfolios if

(01:55:18):
each one is traded separately. That's a good topic. Let
me explain this in general. If you picture a number
of folder of portfolios, just picture them is a square
of a folder of an envelope or whatever, or a bushel,
a basket whatever. So everyone has their basket of portfolio

(01:55:43):
right with all of the things that match their horizon
and their risk and their abilities, all of that, whether
it's income through bonds or whether it's a preferred stock
or just equity growth. Okay, so now you've got these buckets,
and every body's buckets a little different. But then let's

(01:56:03):
say we identify a trade that is advantageous.

Speaker 4 (01:56:07):
Well, obviously if.

Speaker 3 (01:56:09):
There's a trade that's advantageous, like we want to dump
this stock now or buy more of it, we wouldn't
do that twenty five times. So we have software that
goes out to all of the bushels that have that software,
and we do it as one unified trade. So even

(01:56:30):
though it's customized to you, if you don't have that stock,
you're not affected. If you do and this guy has
it and this guy has it, and this guy has it,
and this gal has it and this gal has it,
then we do that volume trade. So yes, we take
advantage of scale by going we have sleeves that go
into each bucket, if that makes sense, so we can

(01:56:52):
do the volume trades. But let's just say only one
client has that stock. That would very seldom happen. But
if it was, then that one client would would would
I would trade with that client in order to in
order to get volume. But here's the point. Most of
the time there are some stocks common to everyone, some
are not, but but we always find enough to try

(01:57:15):
to do volume trading when we can. So I hope
that answers the question. Yes, they are customized, but there
are still things in common to many different ones. That's
Wave eight Capital dot Com with the number eight. Okay,
So now the next text regarding mark being too intense,
I think what the guy meant to say this is

(01:57:37):
Google voice, by the way. I think what the guy
meant to say.

Speaker 4 (01:57:42):
Was that.

Speaker 3 (01:57:44):
He over emphasizes when something pisses him off or when
he likes something, and that's pretty natural to me, and
that's what that person. By the way. Okay, well what
do you think the guy.

Speaker 4 (01:57:58):
Meant, Martin? No, we asked him that.

Speaker 7 (01:58:00):
No, it's purely because he doesn't like my policies. When
I started talking about, you know, the illegal bums running
around in Los Angeles with blowtorches lighting fires, he thinks
I go way over to the top on stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:58:15):
That's what he was saying, no doubt about it.

Speaker 3 (01:58:17):
Oh, okay, okay, okay, Now why do you think people
are setting fires? What would be somebody's goal for you?

Speaker 4 (01:58:25):
Because they're insane?

Speaker 3 (01:58:26):
Is it?

Speaker 4 (01:58:27):
Okay? You know?

Speaker 3 (01:58:29):
And sometimes that's.

Speaker 7 (01:58:29):
All there is to it, there it is. I mean,
I mean, there's no goodness. If you're homeless, you're you
already have mental issues.

Speaker 8 (01:58:35):
Thomas pyromania. Yeah, there are just a signed symptom with
people like fires because of pyromania.

Speaker 4 (01:58:42):
Yeah, then they run.

Speaker 7 (01:58:42):
Home and turn the TV on and see if they
burn down a town exactly. But when you when you
have a city that allows homelessness everywhere and they won't
do anything about it, I mean, simply have had years
and years and thrown billions upon billions and nothing changes.
Very much like Denver here, and you have a city
very much like Denver that allows or let's just call

(01:59:03):
the sanctuary city where anybody can come and do anything.
I mean, what do you expect to happen? Honest to God,
what do you expect?

Speaker 3 (01:59:12):
Well said?

Speaker 4 (01:59:13):
Really, really that's intents.

Speaker 3 (01:59:18):
Give us a call of folks. You know, people are
more and more passionate than ever these days. I just but,
but I do want to always bring bring us back
to the common condition.

Speaker 4 (01:59:29):
No matter what.

Speaker 3 (01:59:29):
We we don't want to be lied too, ripped off, cheated,
and we are here to help. I think this show
above all transcends all that.

Speaker 7 (01:59:37):
Really just real, well, right before we take a break
and think about this, and people that go to YouTube
and then type in Troubleshooter network, they can see life.

Speaker 4 (01:59:46):
I just put a poll up.

Speaker 7 (01:59:48):
Do you think the mayor or Tom and the governor
of California hold you know, responsibility for these fires? Whether
it's the hydrantsider you know, empty or not working. I'm
not sure what's going on with them or any part
of it. Do you think they personally should have responsibility.
Now I'm not talking illegal responsibility because of governmental immunity,

(02:00:09):
but I'm talking, really, do you think it's their fault
that this is happening.

Speaker 3 (02:00:15):
I think a big part of it is their fault,
for absolutely positively sure me think part of it is
a big part of it. Yeah, And I don't think you.

Speaker 8 (02:00:23):
Ken who they hire. All three people in the fire
department upper ups are all DEI hires.

Speaker 7 (02:00:31):
Yeah, but the one up and up in the fire department,
I think she's great. She came out and criticized the mayor, said,
this is crazy. You slashed our budget months ago by
seventeen and a half million. I've told you I needed
another one hundred and fifty guys or whatever it was,
and they.

Speaker 4 (02:00:48):
Didn't do anything.

Speaker 7 (02:00:51):
I just get so upset, counted Tom, and then just
sit here and watch Colorado basically going through the same
thing because of these people that we have here.

Speaker 4 (02:01:00):
But you know what, it's funny.

Speaker 7 (02:01:01):
I think Polis is actually sucking up the Trump a little.

Speaker 4 (02:01:04):
I really do.

Speaker 7 (02:01:05):
And Kaufman in Aurora, I can't believe it, but he's
actually a little mad that the mayor of Denver was
sending all the illegals over to Aurora. So I mean
it's like I think people's eyes are starting to open.

Speaker 3 (02:01:19):
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(02:02:12):
three eight two five five. Let's go to the phones
and see what we can do for you folks, as
we do with everything. And we have John who wants
to comment on Mark. Okay, go ahead, John happen.

Speaker 4 (02:02:30):
Hey, goody, I don't know who cares.

Speaker 8 (02:02:32):
It's all it's.

Speaker 3 (02:02:33):
All in good fun. Hey John, thank you. What's happening.

Speaker 20 (02:02:36):
Man, Hey, Tom, So two weeks ago, some guy called
any bought a use truck and it didn't have no
caps on, and then the guy from the dealership called
and said he had give him a five hundred bucks
because uh it was Uh didn't have to worry about
it for a few years. But the thing is anything
that has a cat or like an airpump or anything

(02:02:56):
like that on it when you go do your missions,
that has to.

Speaker 4 (02:02:59):
Be This is the moron. It's not someone called it
was Marr. Don't don't call him a moron. Are honored, though,
what do you mean it's the guy.

Speaker 20 (02:03:11):
You No, it wasn't me. It was not me.

Speaker 3 (02:03:15):
But what do you mean, Mark, what do you what
do you mean? It's the guy explained to him.

Speaker 7 (02:03:19):
It's the guy they called So this this this guy
called uh And by the way, I ended up sending
his threatening emails to the cops. But that's a different story.
So this guy calls up Tom. He buys a used vehicle.
Okay as is yes. Two months later, two months later,
check engine light comes on. It turns out it needs cats.

(02:03:41):
Follow me so far he thinks the dealership that sold
him the used car should have to pay for the
cats because they sold him a truck where the cats
went bad. Two months later, I told him, he's absolutely nuts.
It's been two months. So we went into the voucher stuff.
He never received the voucher because the vehicle was actually

(02:04:02):
still under exemption, so it had a five year or
seven year exemption sticker.

Speaker 4 (02:04:07):
It just had a ton of miles on it.

Speaker 7 (02:04:09):
It had like one hundred and fifty two hundred thousand miles.
So I got the dealership to come on the air.
They agreed to give the guy five hundred bucks. I
was shocked they'd actually do it, but the guy keeps.
The guy called back and said, I'm one hundred percent wrong.

Speaker 4 (02:04:24):
This is after he loved what I did and took
to five hundred.

Speaker 7 (02:04:27):
But he goes, in the state of Colorado, you one
hundred percent have to sell a vehicle with working cats,
And I said, no, that's absolutely not true. It was
out of warranty and it was exempt, so they didn't
even have to give him the emission sticker. Then two
months later, it needs cats. This is ald on, Mark.
Let's clarify that.

Speaker 16 (02:04:47):
Mark.

Speaker 3 (02:04:47):
Just clarify the one item it does have to have
cats on it vision.

Speaker 7 (02:04:52):
Had cats on it? Yes, right, right, right? Okay, yeah,
it had cats on it. He kept saying. In fact,
the dumb ass excuse me me, the caller, I'm not
talking about this guy, although I think it's him, but
he kept saying it had no cats. Yes, it did
visually have cats. They were there. They went bad two
months later. So tell me, a caller, what.

Speaker 3 (02:05:15):
Is your issue?

Speaker 4 (02:05:16):
Did you have an issue with what Mark said?

Speaker 20 (02:05:19):
You know, I kind of did, and it's not me.
And if that guy made threatening your emails or something,
that's that's not good.

Speaker 17 (02:05:25):
So, uh, the way I understood.

Speaker 20 (02:05:27):
It, the guy called in and he did buy it
as a used vehicle, but even as you used the vehicle,
it's supposed to have the cats on it. If I
understand it had cats, it had cats on it.

Speaker 3 (02:05:39):
Bro it had cats.

Speaker 4 (02:05:41):
I literally asked him in the last call, I said,
are you telling me?

Speaker 7 (02:05:44):
I said, hold on, man, are you literally telling me
someone cut the cats off and they sold it with
no cats. Because if you're saying that, we've got a
big problem. He goes, No, they were there, but they
weren't working.

Speaker 20 (02:05:56):
Okay, Uh, I apologize, my bad man.

Speaker 7 (02:05:59):
You got you you don't have to apologize by any means.
The guy was an absolute moron. I got him five
hundred bucks, and not only that, I told him where
to go to get the cat's replaced for less than
fifteen hundred bucks. Plus he had five hundred from the dealership.
I got him, so it would have cost him a
thousand bucks.

Speaker 5 (02:06:16):
Yep.

Speaker 20 (02:06:17):
I know you guys say about Wyoming and and you
guys do a great job. I appreciate it. I just
apologize again. I'm misunderstood. I thought the cats weren't on it.
So no, great job, guys, I apologize.

Speaker 7 (02:06:28):
You don't have to apologize, man, I just can't thank you.

Speaker 4 (02:06:32):
Worked up? No, not thank you? What is it?

Speaker 8 (02:06:36):
Intense?

Speaker 4 (02:06:37):
Intense?

Speaker 3 (02:06:39):
Intense?

Speaker 4 (02:06:40):
Thank you? And again and again. I can you imagine
loss Suzanne living with my intensity? Well, tell me we
don't offset each other very hi, I.

Speaker 3 (02:06:53):
Do not want to get into us. She can be intense,
Oh you damn right.

Speaker 6 (02:06:56):
She can.

Speaker 3 (02:06:58):
Yeah, at the times for the right reason.

Speaker 4 (02:07:01):
You can be very intense.

Speaker 3 (02:07:04):
Never never, my goh, I have no idea what he's
talking about. Listen, I'm still told that our Lemon law
attorney is in a meeting and Joe Lazara is in
a meeting.

Speaker 4 (02:07:16):
These are important things.

Speaker 3 (02:07:17):
We'll even follow them up tomorrow because these are important topics.
Then we got to get to the bottom of this
condo thing with you know, I mean, that is just
horrendous working. Yeah, D's been working on that one. Let's
let's give the name of that complex out, D. I mean,

(02:07:38):
I want to, I want to give the name out
and let me look up her call again. What's the
name of the call, Khalia. That's right, it was Khalia.

Speaker 5 (02:07:46):
Kay.

Speaker 4 (02:07:48):
Oh, there you go, Thank you, sir, k h l
e A.

Speaker 3 (02:07:52):
Yeah, we got it. Uh k h Okay. So what happened?
Let's recap because it's really disgusting.

Speaker 2 (02:08:02):
Sure, well, two and a half years ago, her condo,
which she bought eight years ago, sprang a huge leak.
She has a video of water just pouring out of
the walls, and she notified the HOA and her insurance company.
And this was following a period of very heavy August rains,
and so the insurance company gutted the entire condo.

Speaker 3 (02:08:24):
I was there. I saw my own eyes.

Speaker 2 (02:08:26):
It is nothing but a concrete box, walls, floor and ceiling,
her concrete and studs where the walls used to be
and the ho and they stand ready to rebuild her condo,
to set it, to put it back the way it was. Unfortunately,
the HOA claims that the roof isn't leaking, and that's

(02:08:46):
in conflict with the two leak detectives that Khalia had hired,
and they were there when I was there, and they
have photos. One of them showed me photos of holes
in the flat roof membrane and so to to follow
up a little bit further, about a week I'd say
about a week and a half ago, one of her
leak detectors went back, got on the roof with a hose,

(02:09:07):
turned on the water and as a result he observed
water infiltrating her unit. However, the HOA hasn't fixed according
to Khalia, they haven't. They haven't. Not only did they
not fix the roof, but they also claim that the
roof isn't leaking at all, which is in conflict with
what the leak detector described from just a few days ago.

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three seven to one three talk seven one three eight
two five five. You know, I really, I really was shocked,
truly at the interview with Zuckerberg and Joe Rogan and
his other revelations. He's really pissed off at how he

(02:10:33):
was pressured at Facebook under the Biden administration. He said,
the Biden administration would actually call them up and threaten
them if they didn't take stuff down about COVID that
was accurate, about the vaccination or about Hunter Biden's laptop.

Speaker 4 (02:10:55):
I mean, why why.

Speaker 3 (02:10:57):
Aren't people making a big deal about that? I mean, this,
this is all coming out now. Plus when Twitter took over,
excuse me, when when Musk took over, Twitter converted it
to x All of these those internal documents said the
same thing. This is a government suppressing free speech. Think

(02:11:17):
about that. I mean, that should make people frightened. Instead
what they start doing, what they're doing instead is predicting
we're going to have a dictator and no freedoms under Trump.
Just the very opposite. I mean, I mean, that's what's
amazing to me. I mean, I you know, it's just

(02:11:39):
time to say it like it is. Folks. There is
a certain faction of this population that crave I've said
it before. They crave not just desire, they crave government control.
They crave it. They crave a shutdown of open expression,

(02:12:00):
and they hope and pray for control on the masses
because they want to control the narrative.

Speaker 4 (02:12:09):
That's just what it is.

Speaker 3 (02:12:11):
This is not a political talk show, but for God's sakes,
it's consumer advocacy. And if I don't speak out on
a phony, we must never let this happen again. The
government should not control our thoughts, should not control our morals,
should not control our opinions, even if we want to

(02:12:31):
hold inaccurate opinions. And I'm gonna say something else, even
if we want to.

Speaker 4 (02:12:42):
Have hateful thoughts that's right.

Speaker 3 (02:12:46):
You see, a constitutional attorney once told me that wars
were not fought to protect chocolate chip recipes.

Speaker 4 (02:12:56):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (02:12:59):
Think about it that I don't like hateful speech. I
don't like any of that. Come on, you know I don't.

Speaker 4 (02:13:06):
But I don't want the government to suppress anything.

Speaker 3 (02:13:13):
We should have the knowledge, know how and power to
suppress it for ourselves or our family.

Speaker 8 (02:13:22):
Tom, who was it there? The only cure for censoring
speech is more free.

Speaker 4 (02:13:28):
Speech, was it, Franklin benj It wasn't rhetorical? Hey, did
you see sixteenth Street mall over the weekend? No, what happened?
You really didn't know? Some guy? Uh, I'm shocked you
didn't see this man? Go ahead, go ahead? What's going on? Guys?

(02:13:51):
I mean a light attendant on Layover killed in random
stabbing on Denver sixteenth Street mall. Another one dead, so
too dead, and I believe one in bad shape. He
just was indiscriminately stabbing people at the sixteenth Street mall
over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:14:08):
Oh, on two separate days. Yeah, on Saturday it was
in the afternoon, and on Saturday he stabbed three people,
want to believe died. And then he came back yesterday.
He came back yesterday and murdered another person at sixteenth
and Mark, this is the wonderful and sixteenth morning. This

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is our six strengths small here in Denver.

Speaker 4 (02:14:31):
And they did and listen, they caught him.

Speaker 2 (02:14:34):
It's a twenty four year old d bag. And I
read his I read his criminal record.

Speaker 4 (02:14:38):
Oh my god.

Speaker 7 (02:14:39):
He's been arrested by every county and every municipality around.

Speaker 3 (02:14:44):
Yeah, and in the meantime he's murdering these people.

Speaker 4 (02:14:46):
Tom he was bail. Just make sure everybody out there
thank your mayor, thank Mayor Johnston for this and all
the great people uh in Denver and in the governor's
office because he was out for some kind of domestic
violence or some sort like on one hundred dollar bond.

(02:15:11):
Oh my god. And he murdered how many people?

Speaker 3 (02:15:15):
Two? Two are willing the two are murdered over two days.

Speaker 7 (02:15:18):
He was first arrested, this is going back in history Westminster,
then arrested in Denver, then arrested by Adams County, then
arrested in Denver again. And it looks like he was
out was his one hundred dollars. It looks like he
was out on one hundred dollars bond for a sexual
contact no consent charge. I don't even know what the
hell that means. It sounds like rape.

Speaker 3 (02:15:38):
That sounds like a tempt Yeah, that sounds like attempted rape.

Speaker 4 (02:15:41):
It's unbelievable. He killed two innocent people.

Speaker 7 (02:15:43):
So now if you go downtown Denver, listen, I don't
care what the mayor Johnson says. You go down there,
you might get killed by somebody that's been released numerous times.

Speaker 3 (02:15:57):
So the question is, folks, do you like on your
strawberries that chocolate see of sugar or caramel? Do you
like sugar, sugar of color.

Speaker 4 (02:16:10):
Or white sugar? That's what I want to know anyway.

Speaker 3 (02:16:14):
Three oh three seven one three talks seven one three
eight two five five. You know, the pendulum is certainly
swinging back and forth. You know, I don't think it's
ever good. It goes too far one way or the other.
But I mean, I think, are we in a bubble
or are people rejecting? Are they speaking, we're the we're

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we're We're where the woke spoke?

Speaker 4 (02:16:40):
Two?

Speaker 3 (02:16:41):
Do you think it's a rejection of wokeism or the government,
the economy? What really is going on? I don't think
there is a surge of hatred. I don't really believe that.
But all the doom and gloom and the Mark always
says to me, Tom, what do you mean all the
what you reading?

Speaker 4 (02:17:00):
What are you doing?

Speaker 3 (02:17:00):
Because I always, I really do tend to skew when
I read stuff on stuff I don't agree with, because
that's where I learn the most of what people are thinking,
not people that just cheer on what I already believe.

Speaker 4 (02:17:14):
So I always look for, you know, the the other thoughts.

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