December 15, 2025 • 16 mins
Scott talks with Hamilton County Commissioner Alicia Reece about what happened with the snow removal at Paycor Stadium for yesterday's game.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you want to be in a Manican scout's long
back at It's seven hundred WW on the coldest winter morning.
We had a long time six inches of snow over
the weekend Saturday. It was beautiful if you watch it
yes day, a little chili, especially ahead of the Bengals game.
We had warnings danger with the cold tempts which means
hypothermi and frostbite.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Let me lay it out for you. The coldest day
ever at pay.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Course Stadium yesterday, and you ask fans to get up
early to clear the ice and snow from your driveways,
clear the ice and snow off your cars, buy extra clothes,
probably drive on icy roads, pay to park, pay for seats,
and the county taxi as well. They just shelled out
over two hundred million dollars to upgrade. You get to
the stadium for the Bengals Ravens tilt and then you
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have to clean your seats off yourself and sit with
your feet and butts on more snow and ice to
watch them lay a twenty four to nothing lopsided egg
against Baltimore to be officially eliminated from playoff contention. Now
for the third year in a row, what am I
missing here? I don't think I'm missing anything. It is
seatgate on this Monday morning on seven hundred WLW, we
(01:05):
have Alisha Reese here and clean your own seat day
at pay Corpse Stadium.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yesterday Alicia, welcome.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
We just paid two hundred and twelve million dollars, gave
the Bengals counting money, taxpayer money to redo pay Corps
and here we go again.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
You got to clean your own seats off. Now what
are we doing here?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Oh my gosh. Well, first of all, Sloan, I would
hope that the media this is what frustrates me when
they report this. In terms of the Bengals Least deal,
it was not unanimous. I've voted against it. I did
not support the two hundred and eleven million dollars last Tuesday,
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which has seemed really rushed. I said, now, what are
we rushing to pay this two hundred and eleven million
plus dollars to the Bengals when the least is eleven
years and we passed that. I did not support it.
I didn't vote yes as that was passed before. We
have passed the balanced budget that we have to do.
(02:11):
We have the budget, the People's budget, which is due
this week. We have to pass that by by Thursday.
But it seemed to be a rush before this game
to hurry up. We had to sell notes, check out
more debt which comes with interest, and it was a rush.
And we normally vote on Thursdays, but they were rushing.
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We got a payer, we got to upgrade the stadium
for the future, and I kept saying, well would we
do this before? Right now we got a budget where
Prosecutor office may be laying off people. We haven't balanced
it yet. We have a budget right now because of
this lease that I voted against. The property text for
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homeowners is going to go up next year in a month,
a couple of weeks, they're going to get their bills,
and you didn't want to give the homeowners a break.
But there seems to have been this rush or to
vote on a Tuesday, I believe, or Thursday. They were saying,
talk about it on Tuesday. But the rush a week
before the budget is due to be passed to give
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the Bengals over two hundred million dollars. And then we
we have Sunday with this situation where the seats aren't
you know, the seats aren't aren't cleaned. Everyone else was
making sure the city and everyone else was trying to
make sure that the streets and all those things were clean.
Because this wasn't like a surprise snow right.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
We saw this, We saw this coming, We saw this coming.
He was coming.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
We had to clean our driveways, our cars. But the
good news here is that according to the team in
the NFL rule book, by the way, says that you're
required to remove snow from the entire seating bowl before games.
The NFL said, well, the Bengals did the bare minimum
to meet that requirement. But it's not the first time
this has happened. Happened a year I think two years
ago where the seats weren't cleaned off. That is a
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fan safety issue during severe weather. And so what what
enforcement mechanisms does a county have. Do you have any
any saying their their ability to keep fans safe.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Well, keywords you said was bare minimum, and that's what
we've seen. There's been a bare minimum, and then it's
on the backs of the taxpayers. One of the things
I want to make sure because you always got to
read the fine print when I get down to back
down to the office, I wanted to ask the administrator.
I want to make sure there's no small print or
(04:37):
any written clause that turns it back on the taxpayers
of Hamilton County, because a lot of things that in
the in these leases, they've been very uh you know,
being an ownership has been very good at flipping things back.
Uh you know that has any cost association, it gets
slipped back to the county. So you one of the
(05:00):
reasons I've been one of waits to hear from our
administrator because I don't want to have something that he said, oh, well,
you know in this over here it was a little
line and we agreed to pay for it, because there's
a lot of things in that lease that in other
other owners other markets, they you know, the team pays
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forwards the ownership, and in our market there seems to
be a lot of things that fall on the tax payers.
And so I want to make sure before speaking definitively
that that hadn't slipped in somewhere and all of a
sudden it becomes you know, miss counties.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Well, the good news is that I have a copy
of the master agreement here and it is on page
nine thirty seven, Paragraph twenty eight, sub Section eleven double E.
It says that any finds levied by the National Football
League relative to snow removal shall be under the sole
province and paid exclusively. Commissioner Alsia reesea Hamlin County.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
What do you make it?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I know they love to hear that. That's why I
said no.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
To this, least, no to the least at.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Least put it on. It's always and also don't want
as they say, well, now you know, because we got
these new changes and we'll slip it in and and
that's what I hear. A lot of it always flips
back to the to the taxpayers, and so that's where
(06:31):
I have some concern and making sure, yes we do
have facilities people, Yes we do have those things, but
we should not be paying for all of the extras.
And that's what usually happens to to uh, to us,
what I've seen in my years of you know, my
few years of being down there, it has been shocking
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to me. But but no, it was a flap of
the face to to the to the fans, and we knew.
Everyone knew that this weather was coming. They knew when
the snow was falling. They even reported when it was
going to stop falling. They knew that the the that
it was going to get colder and all those kind
of things. And at this at the end of the day,
(07:14):
you have the word bear minimum. And that's what's been going.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
That's the subject on my show today. We'll get after
you go.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I'm going to talk more about the bare minimums because
that really is what what the driver here is.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
UH.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
With with the legendary cost cutting measures of teams have
during the negotiations during contracts, have you ever raised concerns
with team ownership about a pattern of prioritizing profit and
expenses over fan experience.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Well, we started with that. I said, well, wait a minute,
because remember I was on your show and there were
some concerns about the seats that are not in the
club level where they can make more money. Remember I said,
what about the seats up at the top when they
were redoing seats brought broken the broken escalator. We were
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talking about that. So I have constantly been on fan
experience when they come down there, whether they're coming down
for a game or another event, but fan experience. And
then remember they we got these reports about we we
you know, the stadium didn't get good. Uh, didn't get
good grades nationally. As the talk, they even went into
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the food. Remember they talked about the food for the
for the team players families and uh, they also talked
about help we got food. Remember for disability, a gentleman
couldn't get to the restroom because it's not just it's
not accessible throughout the whole stadium. I even talked about
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going into the stadium. They would have people. Uh they
would say, well, no, you got to go all the
way to the other side of a person walking with
a walker trying to get to the sensibilities area. And
I said, listen to all areas this twenty twenty, you
know five all areas should be accessible in this day
and climate. And so those were some of the things
(09:06):
that we keep hearing that we are always doing the
bare minimum with the top dollar on the taxpayers. Even
in this deal, they come in and say, well, we're
gonna do the bare minimum for the homeowners, even though
the homeowners were promised thirty percent were gonna do the
bare minimum, and they went to four percent. So it
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seems to be a pattern of the bare minimum. I said, hey,
we want to have more events there. Remember we wanted
to have the WWE. I believe it was the smack
Down Summer Summer swam right, they went to Cleveland. We
at that time we hadn't even applied. So I came
on your show you mentioned it. I said we should
apply once again. We do the bare minim. Well, we
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have one event a year, and you know that's good enough.
So it has been the bare minimum, bare minimum on
their end, but the top dollar on the tax pair end.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
No Commissioner Lisha resh on this year, we're talking about
shovelgate at pay Corpse Stadium and acting like this is hey,
this is a rare weather circumstance. I mean, we've known
about this for days in advance, and then we're gonna
get bitterly cold temperatures on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That forecast was accurate.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You plan for that kind of stuff, and we act
as if or the response has been, well, it's like
a while, it's a big deal. You got to stay
in ice and snow. It's not like we don't get
ice and snow in Cincinnati. And there are the cold
weather stadiums, and I consider it's a cold weather stadium
this time of year that they you don't see that happening.
You know now, if you get an event where it's
snowing an inch an hour, it's gonna be awfully tough
(10:37):
to clear. We understand that we've seen that before. But
the storm it ended, plenty of places were cleared off.
It wouldn't be that much to ask if they were
clearing it as the snow fell before it turned to ice.
How do you make sure that doesn't happen again? And
I say that because I think it was the last
time the Bengals were in the playoffs three years ago.
I recall or maybe the year before, where the same
thing happened. The snow fell and there was no adequate
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planning place to remove the snow, and they said, I
we'll do better next time. Your contemporary there on the commission,
Stephanie Summer Dumas, said that we need to do a
better job for next time. Well, this is the next
time after three years ago. It doesn't seem like they
care or the messages have been received. Do you have
any influence in your position to make that happen?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Well, I believe that the influence that the county commissioners
had is when we went into the negotiation, and that's
why everything in negotiation needed to really be on the
table with you know, some type of penalty, because you know,
if someone goes in there and say they fail, you know,
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then there's a liability that could you know, fall on
the county as well, the county taxpayers. When they filed
that lawsuit about the restroom, they didn't just put the Bengals,
they put they put Hamilton County. And then the Bengals
ownership wanted to remove themselves from the lawsuit and leave
it to the taxpayers. And so really these type of things,
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that's why I went to know on the on the deal,
you've got to really and then be enforceable. It can't
be well, they made a call to the administrator and
now he comes and we don't get to talk to
each other. Three of us are on the county commission
of to talk. That would be a majority, so there's
only one person who can talk to all three of us,
and so we end up saying one thing, and then
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he has a meeting and then they come out and
then the next thing, I know, well we're okay with it.
We should have you know, we've got it again. If
we hadn't rushed last week to do the two one
hundred and eleven million dollars. We'd had some leverage, but
it's hard to have leverage if you've given them the
checkbook and you've written a blank check.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
That's over.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I tried to have some Yeah, you talked about seat
gate has been homeowner gate. I mean there's been a
lot of gates down there. I mean, it's a lot
of things going on. But you got to take care
of it. My god, you're negotiating the check book. That's
where you have the power.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I don't know how you hold it.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Most I would say almost every other NFL team save
maybe one except I don't know if there's an exception
or not to that would look at in the public
outcry going. Man, you know what, it's the fan experience.
It's a bad look for the team. It's a bad
look for the city and the franchise because things like
this happen, not not frequently, but enough to establish a
pattern if you go back in time, that they simply
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will do the bare minimum and don't care what the fans,
or the media or anyone else thinks for that matter.
They only care about what their opinions are inside pay corps,
in the front office, and typically other teams would look
at this and go, yeah, this this gives our franchise
a bad look. We better clean this up and fix
it for next time. I think almost every other NFL
team thinks that way, except the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah. I can't tell you how they think. I just
know that when I look at the actual deal. And
when you have a chance, remember had to have a
free watch party, Sloan, you and I. They said let's
do what. It came from a It came from a
fan that said let's do it. They were once said
we can't do it, and then the next thing I know,
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they came back with it. We found a way to
do it. Now we want to do it for ninety
nine dollars. We wanted to have some free to get
back to the fans. Every time we want to do
we want to have something to get back to the homeowners.
And they said, now we want all the money, and
now we only can do you know what I'm saying.
So anything that doesn't make money, from what I've seen,
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it's always we'll put it on the If it costs money,
the tax players, we want you to pay. If it
makes money, then again then it's okay for them. And again,
there was so much pressure to pass this two hundred
eleven million dollars right before. I don't know if they
knew that the season was going to end or something,
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but it was, you know, the administray said, we got it,
we gotta got this is an eleven year deal. Why
we gotta do it so quick? We gotta do it,
even before we balance the budget. We gotta do it.
And now they've done it, and uh, it's two hundred
eleven million dollars out a three hundred and fifty million
we don't put. That's a pretty big front load. And
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now here we are, not even a week later, and
now we're talking about well, wait a minute, the seats
wasn't well was it removed from seat?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
You feed enough pigeons, you get fat, happy pigeons.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
That's what you get.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Commissioner Lisha Reese on seatgate this morning on seven hundred
W and there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
It's over.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
But uh, it helps I think collectively to complain.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
No, I think it's you know, we got to bring
these things up and and I'm gonna ask the administrator
to see what really can be done, and it should
be done. But I want to make sure Swan thank
you for having me on. But I hope these media
when they write, they keep saying commissioners passed two hundred
and eleven million dollars. I didn't vote yes, Please Pa
it was two to one.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
We know, we know you made your case.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
We got it.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I told you so, the I told you so, the
I told you so. Alisha, I always appreciate you coming out.
I have a great day. I don't know if you
know this, but Alisha Reese did not vote for She
always brings the heat, and God knows we need some
heat this morning, especially if you suffered through yesterday's If
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you suffered through yesterday's game uh and happened to go there,
I'll bump you the top of the call list here
because we're going to examine, from top to bottom, the
central idea of the segment of the show this morning,
from Alicia to your calls coming up next AFTERNOWS, and
that is the bare minimum, Bengals, the bare minimum. And
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if you just do the bare minimum, do you ever
expect to win a championship in your lifetime. We'll get
to that next on the show right after this, on
seven hundred W
Do you want to be in a Manican scout's long
back at It's seven hundred WW on the coldest winter morning.
We had a long time six inches of snow over
the weekend Saturday. It was beautiful if you watch it
yes day, a little chili, especially ahead of the Bengals game.
We had warnings danger with the cold tempts which means
hypothermi and frostbite.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Let me lay it out for you. The coldest day
ever at pay.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Course Stadium yesterday, and you ask fans to get up
early to clear the ice and snow from your driveways,
clear the ice and snow off your cars, buy extra clothes,
probably drive on icy roads, pay to park, pay for seats,
and the county taxi as well. They just shelled out
over two hundred million dollars to upgrade. You get to
the stadium for the Bengals Ravens tilt and then you
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have to clean your seats off yourself and sit with
your feet and butts on more snow and ice to
watch them lay a twenty four to nothing lopsided egg
against Baltimore to be officially eliminated from playoff contention. Now
for the third year in a row, what am I
missing here? I don't think I'm missing anything. It is
seatgate on this Monday morning on seven hundred WLW, we
(01:05):
have Alisha Reese here and clean your own seat day
at pay Corpse Stadium.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yesterday Alicia, welcome.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
We just paid two hundred and twelve million dollars, gave
the Bengals counting money, taxpayer money to redo pay Corps
and here we go again.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
You got to clean your own seats off. Now what
are we doing here?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Oh my gosh. Well, first of all, Sloan, I would
hope that the media this is what frustrates me when
they report this. In terms of the Bengals Least deal,
it was not unanimous. I've voted against it. I did
not support the two hundred and eleven million dollars last Tuesday,
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which has seemed really rushed. I said, now, what are
we rushing to pay this two hundred and eleven million
plus dollars to the Bengals when the least is eleven
years and we passed that. I did not support it.
I didn't vote yes as that was passed before. We
have passed the balanced budget that we have to do.
(02:11):
We have the budget, the People's budget, which is due
this week. We have to pass that by by Thursday.
But it seemed to be a rush before this game
to hurry up. We had to sell notes, check out
more debt which comes with interest, and it was a rush.
And we normally vote on Thursdays, but they were rushing.
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We got a payer, we got to upgrade the stadium
for the future, and I kept saying, well would we
do this before? Right now we got a budget where
Prosecutor office may be laying off people. We haven't balanced
it yet. We have a budget right now because of
this lease that I voted against. The property text for
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homeowners is going to go up next year in a month,
a couple of weeks, they're going to get their bills,
and you didn't want to give the homeowners a break.
But there seems to have been this rush or to
vote on a Tuesday, I believe, or Thursday. They were saying,
talk about it on Tuesday. But the rush a week
before the budget is due to be passed to give
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the Bengals over two hundred million dollars. And then we
we have Sunday with this situation where the seats aren't
you know, the seats aren't aren't cleaned. Everyone else was
making sure the city and everyone else was trying to
make sure that the streets and all those things were clean.
Because this wasn't like a surprise snow right.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
We saw this, We saw this coming, We saw this coming.
He was coming.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
We had to clean our driveways, our cars. But the
good news here is that according to the team in
the NFL rule book, by the way, says that you're
required to remove snow from the entire seating bowl before games.
The NFL said, well, the Bengals did the bare minimum
to meet that requirement. But it's not the first time
this has happened. Happened a year I think two years
ago where the seats weren't cleaned off. That is a
(04:06):
fan safety issue during severe weather. And so what what
enforcement mechanisms does a county have. Do you have any
any saying their their ability to keep fans safe.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Well, keywords you said was bare minimum, and that's what
we've seen. There's been a bare minimum, and then it's
on the backs of the taxpayers. One of the things
I want to make sure because you always got to
read the fine print when I get down to back
down to the office, I wanted to ask the administrator.
I want to make sure there's no small print or
(04:37):
any written clause that turns it back on the taxpayers
of Hamilton County, because a lot of things that in
the in these leases, they've been very uh you know,
being an ownership has been very good at flipping things back.
Uh you know that has any cost association, it gets
slipped back to the county. So you one of the
(05:00):
reasons I've been one of waits to hear from our
administrator because I don't want to have something that he said, oh, well,
you know in this over here it was a little
line and we agreed to pay for it, because there's
a lot of things in that lease that in other
other owners other markets, they you know, the team pays
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forwards the ownership, and in our market there seems to
be a lot of things that fall on the tax payers.
And so I want to make sure before speaking definitively
that that hadn't slipped in somewhere and all of a
sudden it becomes you know, miss counties.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Well, the good news is that I have a copy
of the master agreement here and it is on page
nine thirty seven, Paragraph twenty eight, sub Section eleven double E.
It says that any finds levied by the National Football
League relative to snow removal shall be under the sole
province and paid exclusively. Commissioner Alsia reesea Hamlin County.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
What do you make it?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I know they love to hear that. That's why I
said no.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
To this, least, no to the least at.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Least put it on. It's always and also don't want
as they say, well, now you know, because we got
these new changes and we'll slip it in and and
that's what I hear. A lot of it always flips
back to the to the taxpayers, and so that's where
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I have some concern and making sure, yes we do
have facilities people, Yes we do have those things, but
we should not be paying for all of the extras.
And that's what usually happens to to uh, to us,
what I've seen in my years of you know, my
few years of being down there, it has been shocking
(06:52):
to me. But but no, it was a flap of
the face to to the to the fans, and we knew.
Everyone knew that this weather was coming. They knew when
the snow was falling. They even reported when it was
going to stop falling. They knew that the the that
it was going to get colder and all those kind
of things. And at this at the end of the day,
(07:14):
you have the word bear minimum. And that's what's been going.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
That's the subject on my show today. We'll get after
you go.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I'm going to talk more about the bare minimums because
that really is what what the driver here is.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
UH.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
With with the legendary cost cutting measures of teams have
during the negotiations during contracts, have you ever raised concerns
with team ownership about a pattern of prioritizing profit and
expenses over fan experience.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Well, we started with that. I said, well, wait a minute,
because remember I was on your show and there were
some concerns about the seats that are not in the
club level where they can make more money. Remember I said,
what about the seats up at the top when they
were redoing seats brought broken the broken escalator. We were
(08:03):
talking about that. So I have constantly been on fan
experience when they come down there, whether they're coming down
for a game or another event, but fan experience. And
then remember they we got these reports about we we
you know, the stadium didn't get good. Uh, didn't get
good grades nationally. As the talk, they even went into
(08:24):
the food. Remember they talked about the food for the
for the team players families and uh, they also talked
about help we got food. Remember for disability, a gentleman
couldn't get to the restroom because it's not just it's
not accessible throughout the whole stadium. I even talked about
(08:44):
going into the stadium. They would have people. Uh they
would say, well, no, you got to go all the
way to the other side of a person walking with
a walker trying to get to the sensibilities area. And
I said, listen to all areas this twenty twenty, you
know five all areas should be accessible in this day
and climate. And so those were some of the things
(09:06):
that we keep hearing that we are always doing the
bare minimum with the top dollar on the taxpayers. Even
in this deal, they come in and say, well, we're
gonna do the bare minimum for the homeowners, even though
the homeowners were promised thirty percent were gonna do the
bare minimum, and they went to four percent. So it
(09:26):
seems to be a pattern of the bare minimum. I said, hey,
we want to have more events there. Remember we wanted
to have the WWE. I believe it was the smack
Down Summer Summer swam right, they went to Cleveland. We
at that time we hadn't even applied. So I came
on your show you mentioned it. I said we should
apply once again. We do the bare minim. Well, we
(09:48):
have one event a year, and you know that's good enough.
So it has been the bare minimum, bare minimum on
their end, but the top dollar on the tax pair end.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
No Commissioner Lisha resh on this year, we're talking about
shovelgate at pay Corpse Stadium and acting like this is hey,
this is a rare weather circumstance. I mean, we've known
about this for days in advance, and then we're gonna
get bitterly cold temperatures on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That forecast was accurate.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You plan for that kind of stuff, and we act
as if or the response has been, well, it's like
a while, it's a big deal. You got to stay
in ice and snow. It's not like we don't get
ice and snow in Cincinnati. And there are the cold
weather stadiums, and I consider it's a cold weather stadium
this time of year that they you don't see that happening.
You know now, if you get an event where it's
snowing an inch an hour, it's gonna be awfully tough
(10:37):
to clear. We understand that we've seen that before. But
the storm it ended, plenty of places were cleared off.
It wouldn't be that much to ask if they were
clearing it as the snow fell before it turned to ice.
How do you make sure that doesn't happen again? And
I say that because I think it was the last
time the Bengals were in the playoffs three years ago.
I recall or maybe the year before, where the same
thing happened. The snow fell and there was no adequate
(10:59):
planning place to remove the snow, and they said, I
we'll do better next time. Your contemporary there on the commission,
Stephanie Summer Dumas, said that we need to do a
better job for next time. Well, this is the next
time after three years ago. It doesn't seem like they
care or the messages have been received. Do you have
any influence in your position to make that happen?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Well, I believe that the influence that the county commissioners
had is when we went into the negotiation, and that's
why everything in negotiation needed to really be on the
table with you know, some type of penalty, because you know,
if someone goes in there and say they fail, you know,
(11:41):
then there's a liability that could you know, fall on
the county as well, the county taxpayers. When they filed
that lawsuit about the restroom, they didn't just put the Bengals,
they put they put Hamilton County. And then the Bengals
ownership wanted to remove themselves from the lawsuit and leave
it to the taxpayers. And so really these type of things,
(12:06):
that's why I went to know on the on the deal,
you've got to really and then be enforceable. It can't
be well, they made a call to the administrator and
now he comes and we don't get to talk to
each other. Three of us are on the county commission
of to talk. That would be a majority, so there's
only one person who can talk to all three of us,
and so we end up saying one thing, and then
(12:28):
he has a meeting and then they come out and
then the next thing, I know, well we're okay with it.
We should have you know, we've got it again. If
we hadn't rushed last week to do the two one
hundred and eleven million dollars. We'd had some leverage, but
it's hard to have leverage if you've given them the
checkbook and you've written a blank check.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
That's over.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I tried to have some Yeah, you talked about seat
gate has been homeowner gate. I mean there's been a
lot of gates down there. I mean, it's a lot
of things going on. But you got to take care
of it. My god, you're negotiating the check book. That's
where you have the power.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I don't know how you hold it.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Most I would say almost every other NFL team save
maybe one except I don't know if there's an exception
or not to that would look at in the public
outcry going. Man, you know what, it's the fan experience.
It's a bad look for the team. It's a bad
look for the city and the franchise because things like
this happen, not not frequently, but enough to establish a
pattern if you go back in time, that they simply
(13:30):
will do the bare minimum and don't care what the fans,
or the media or anyone else thinks for that matter.
They only care about what their opinions are inside pay corps,
in the front office, and typically other teams would look
at this and go, yeah, this this gives our franchise
a bad look. We better clean this up and fix
it for next time. I think almost every other NFL
team thinks that way, except the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah. I can't tell you how they think. I just
know that when I look at the actual deal. And
when you have a chance, remember had to have a
free watch party, Sloan, you and I. They said let's
do what. It came from a It came from a
fan that said let's do it. They were once said
we can't do it, and then the next thing I know,
(14:13):
they came back with it. We found a way to
do it. Now we want to do it for ninety
nine dollars. We wanted to have some free to get
back to the fans. Every time we want to do
we want to have something to get back to the homeowners.
And they said, now we want all the money, and
now we only can do you know what I'm saying.
So anything that doesn't make money, from what I've seen,
(14:37):
it's always we'll put it on the If it costs money,
the tax players, we want you to pay. If it
makes money, then again then it's okay for them. And again,
there was so much pressure to pass this two hundred
eleven million dollars right before. I don't know if they
knew that the season was going to end or something,
(14:57):
but it was, you know, the administray said, we got it,
we gotta got this is an eleven year deal. Why
we gotta do it so quick? We gotta do it,
even before we balance the budget. We gotta do it.
And now they've done it, and uh, it's two hundred
eleven million dollars out a three hundred and fifty million
we don't put. That's a pretty big front load. And
(15:17):
now here we are, not even a week later, and
now we're talking about well, wait a minute, the seats
wasn't well was it removed from seat?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
You feed enough pigeons, you get fat, happy pigeons.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
That's what you get.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Commissioner Lisha Reese on seatgate this morning on seven hundred
W and there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
It's over.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
But uh, it helps I think collectively to complain.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
No, I think it's you know, we got to bring
these things up and and I'm gonna ask the administrator
to see what really can be done, and it should
be done. But I want to make sure Swan thank
you for having me on. But I hope these media
when they write, they keep saying commissioners passed two hundred
and eleven million dollars. I didn't vote yes, Please Pa
it was two to one.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
We know, we know you made your case.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
We got it.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I told you so, the I told you so, the
I told you so. Alisha, I always appreciate you coming out.
I have a great day. I don't know if you
know this, but Alisha Reese did not vote for She
always brings the heat, and God knows we need some
heat this morning, especially if you suffered through yesterday's If
(16:27):
you suffered through yesterday's game uh and happened to go there,
I'll bump you the top of the call list here
because we're going to examine, from top to bottom, the
central idea of the segment of the show this morning,
from Alicia to your calls coming up next AFTERNOWS, and
that is the bare minimum, Bengals, the bare minimum. And
(16:47):
if you just do the bare minimum, do you ever
expect to win a championship in your lifetime. We'll get
to that next on the show right after this, on
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