10-7-25 Bill Cunningham Show

Willie talks with Uri Kaufman about the October 7th attacks. Also Lara Reis breaks down the attacks on ICE. Finally Grover Norquist discusses the government shutdown.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Bill Cunningham, the Great American October the seventh, twenty twenty
three is a date that will live an infamy for
those of the Jewish faith. I think throughout the world
as far as the of the aggravation of what happened
with the Hamas has below all the Islamic extremists and
what happened on that date is incredible. And joining you
and I now as Urik Kaufman, author of American Intafada

(00:30):
and professor Uri Kaufman, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
And much as we did during nine to eleven or
maybe Pearl Harbor, the world change for Israel on October
the seventh, twenty twenty three. Can you describe Israel, say,
on October the third or fourth of twenty twenty three,
two or three days before the attack by hamas the

(00:51):
status of Israel at that point. Then we're going to
compare it to what Israel was today after October the seventh,
and what's happening today. But describe Israel, say a couple
of days before October the seventh.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
You go back to let's say October the sixth, twenty
twenty three. Okay, Israel, I could say was in its
golden age. Its economy was thriving. It's per capita income
was higher than Germany, Italy, Britain, France, Canada. Even it
seemed like it was in an extended period of peace.
It was only spending three and a half percent of

(01:22):
its GDP on defense, the lowest level in its history,
I think, even a bit lower than what we spent
here in America. It really looked like blue skies ahead,
and then just overnight the whole thing went upside down,
which kind of is what happened in nineteen seventy three.
It looked like everything was great, and then October the sixth,
nineteen seventy three, came along and everything got turned upside down.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Of course, I was there six months before that. I
sensed when I spoke to israelis I spent time in
the West Bank, spent time in Masada, spent time in
Palestinian held territories. It was safe, it was secure. We
were told there might be some rockets at the Hotel David.
If that's the case, we'll give you a warning, go
into the stairwell. None of that happened. The streets were

(02:04):
full of tourism. I was told that before October the seventh,
and you know, there was full employment. About twenty five
thousand Palestinians came across the checkpoints every day. There was
a sense that we're over the hump. The Abraham Accords
were not quite fully implemented, but Trump was going to

(02:25):
win the election, in which case it'll be better. And
all of a sudden October seventh happened. Can you to
tell the American people why it happened? We've gone back
in time with Pearl Harbor and with nine to eleven.
Why did October the seventh happen? And why weren't the
Israeli government prepared for that?

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Well, the lead that it happened was that CAMAS wanted
to prevent normalization between Israel and Saudi Arabia. And of course,
when we talk about CAMAS, it's a terrorist group. We
don't know the inner workings, it's all opaque. But this
is basically a good I guess you could say, assessment
of what happened. They did not want to see Israel normalized.

(03:04):
There was, as you say, talk of the Abraham Accords,
President Trump's Abraham Accords expanding, expanding to Saudi Arabia, expanding
to a country called Oman. Maybe some other players and
Hamas saw this. And you have to understand, Kamas never
gave up its dream of genocide, of killing all the Jews,
of wiping Israel off the map. Iran never gave up
on that dream. They had a clock ticking in downtown Tehran,

(03:27):
ticking down to a date in twenty forty when they
said they were going to kill all the Jews. Hesbila
never gave up on the dream, and Iran had built
what they called the ring of fire around Israel. It
was Camas, and not just Kamas in Gaza, but Hamas
in Judea, Samaria. It was Hesbola up in Lebanon. It
was Bishar Assad in Syria. It was the Iraqi militias

(03:50):
in Iraq. She had militias in Iraq, and of course
it was Yemen where you have the who, theies, and
Iran itself. So they have this ring of fire. They
always said they were going to activate it at some
point to wipe Israel off the map. It does appear
that y es Cin Nooir, the head of the mosque,
jumped the gun and he dragged the region into a
war before Iran would have wanted it but that's really

(04:11):
what happened. You never really need much of a reason. Unfortunately,
with the Jahadists, I guess you can say that it's
when they're living in peace that you have to ask
yourself why that's happening.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Why did October seventh militarily from the AMS perspective, why
did it succeed? Why was the idea of unprepared?

Speaker 2 (04:28):
It's exactly what happened in nineteen seventy three. There was
a failure of a core assumption. The core assumption was
the Palestinians in Gaza are not going to go to
war because it would be an active national suicide. You
have to realize at that moment, as you indicated, seventeen
thousand Palestinians from Gaza were working in Israel each and

(04:50):
every day. Israel was supplying Gaza with sixty seven thousand
trucks filled with supplies. Israel supplied Gaza with five point
seven billion yallons of water, of its electricity, all of
its fuel by the way, as an asside, The New
York Times described this as a blockade, sometimes as the
Draconian blockade.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
They like making stuff up.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
But the Palestinians and God, there was no blockade. It
was the opposite. They had effectively given them the benefits
of peace. Prime Minister in Nittanye, who had even announced.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
A few weeks before.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
That Gods and Palestinians could explore for offshore natural gas
in the Mediterranean off the coast of Goza, where there
is thought to be natural gas, which would be, of
course a big source of wealth for the Palestinian people.
And no one dreamt that they would blow that up,
but they did, and they did because, as the Kamas
leaders themselves said, they're not like you and me. They're

(05:43):
not like the West. They're not really concerned about bettering
the lives of their people. They're not concerned with raising
their kids. They just want to wipe Israel off the map.
They just want to come a genocide, they say'd user
apes and pigs, and that's more important to them. And
you can really say the same about Iran. The Ayapola
Homini back in the day once said the revolution was

(06:04):
not about the price of watermelons, and what he met
by that was if I were to ask you what's
the role of government, you'd say, well, the role of
government is to improve the lives of the citizenry. And
then you might say, without a trick question, isn't that
obvious over there? That's not the way the Islamists look
at it. They view the role of government as trying
to create this caliphate, hopefully in the capitol of Mecca,

(06:26):
and killing all the people they deemed to be infidels,
and that's more important than anything else, and that is
why all their resources are directed towards war, towards Hesbola,
towards the hoolies. Even now, the Iranians can't keep the
lights on, they don't have water. I mean, certain basic
things we take for granted. You turn the faucet, water
comes out. They can't take that for granted in Iran.

(06:49):
And yet the Iranians are still sending billions and billions
of dollars. Took thems to Hespula, to the Hoovies, because again,
this is what's most important to them. That could just
make one final pull. When President Obama did the Iran deal,
it freed up over one hundred billion dollars to the Iranians,
and at the time, President Obama said, well, they're going

(07:09):
to spend that money on their kids, on their country,
on their economy, And it was ridiculous they took that
money and they sent it to the who theies. The
hes bought a kama because that's their national priority, that's
what's most important to them, and it just showed a
fundamental misunderstanding of Iranian priorities. And again, as you said, Thanky,
president Trump is in the White House and we finally

(07:33):
understand our enemies a little better than.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
We did before.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
It's a culture of death. Some a US leaders when
asked why do you build your facilities underground below hospitals
and orphanages, in schools and apartment buildings, it's because the
civilians that are being killed to get at them are
also part of the Intifada against Israel. They want Palestinians
and gods and children to be killed by the Jew

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in order to demonstrate to the UN into the world
world that there's some sort of holocaust happening, some sort
of Genosade happening, which is a bunch of bs. They
Hamas specifically wants men, women and children and gods. It'll
be killed, and that's part of the Intifada, that's part
of They're part of it. They want four year old
girls to have their legs blown off because that's what

(08:20):
they want. It's a culture of death, not a culture
of life. So why should.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Anyone make peace with them?

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Right right now? You know the talks are ongoing, it's
going to be close to hostages are going to be released, allegedly.
I'll believe it when I see it. But why do
business with them at all? Because whether it's five thousand
left or five hundred left, they're committed to the destruction,
the murder of Jews and Westerners whoever they might be found.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Why accept their word for anything? We know what they want.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Well, they're not accepting their word. And that's what's different
about it this time. This time, we're not trusting the Palestinians.
The way the deal is set up, the first thing
that happens is the hostages go free. That's what we
all want to sha. The second thing, though, is the
key point. Israel is going to stay in Gaza with
its soldiers in a perimeter surrounding Gaza so that they

(09:10):
can no longer flood it with weapons from Egypt from Sinai. Now,
when Kamala Harris was Vice president, she said I will
not allow this. It was in a speech in July
of twenty twenty four when she was already he presumed
a candidate for the Democrats. She said, I will not
allow this. I'm not going to let Israel have a
presence there. It'll shrink Gaza and that'll hurt the Palestinians. Well, well,

(09:31):
then if you're doing that, you're basically trusting Comas to
not do what he has done before and has been
doing for decades, which is just rearmed for the next round.
This time it's going to be different, and President Trump
has made that absolutely clear. He is also said Camas
is not going to be in power when this is over.
Gaza is going to demilitarize. There will be some sort

(09:53):
of civilian government, but Hamasa and the PA, the Palestinian authority,
which isn't really much better, they're just not going to
be allowed to take a part in that. So we
can only hope that it's going to get a little
bit better because now Israel will be in charge of
security instead of trusting the Palestinians who've broken their word,
basically broken every treaty they've ever signed.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Professor Yurik Kaufman, can you address yourself to the issue
why is Israel so despised by Europe, by the UN?
By American college kids. If a poll was done about
do you support Palestinians or israel I think the poll
indicates two thirds of Americans wrongfully educated by the miseducation systems.

(10:34):
We have support Palestinians over Israelis, who simply won piece
and Israel has few friends in the world.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Why is that?

Speaker 2 (10:45):
The easiest way to understand this is to engage in
a thought experiment. So let's assume every fact of the
October seven attack happened exactly the way it did. Total
unprovoked attack. Twelve hundred people murdered, two hundred and fifty ostages,
women raped. One more fact you need to know the
Biden administration budgeted billions of dollars in aid for Gaza,

(11:08):
to whom they would characterize as the innocent civilians. Okay,
let's assume all that happened exactly the way it did.
Only let's assume the attackers were Germans of another era
or Ukrainians, in other words, are white supremacists. Let's assume
they were white people. Right, do you really think that
Biden would have budgeted billions of dollars to white people
who said Jews are apes and pigs? And now hold

(11:30):
the thought, let's change all the identities of the players.
Let's assume again same attack, and let's assume white supremacists
instead of Arab supremacists. But let's assume they murdered twelve
hundred black people and they raped black women. And now
a Republican administration said, let's give billions of dollars to
the innocent civilians, the innocent white supremacist who say that
Blacks are apes and pigs. There would have been rioting

(11:52):
in the streets, and rightly so. So what we have
here is this weird kind of dynamic. And then you
get into something called cognitive diss where when people have
deeply held beliefs and then facts appear the contradict the beliefs,
people change the facts, not the beliefs. And that's why
Barack Obama, right after the attack tweeted that we have
to say facts that there's unclean hands on both sides. Well,

(12:14):
why don't he draw the moral equivalents, he said, because
of what he termed the unbearable occupation. Well, there was
no occupation Israels was drawn from Godza eighteen years before.
But he didn't like those facts, so he changed the
facts to fit the narrative, and just one final thought,
imagine for a moment again, a thought experiment. Every fact
happened exactly the way it did, and Iran was run

(12:36):
not by crazy ayahtolas who say jewser apes and pigs,
but by white supremacists who say Blacks are apes and pigs.
Do you really think he would have done in Iranvian?
Do you really think that Barack Obama would have agreed
that they get to keep the first generation centri if
you just continue their research, get over one hundred billion
dollars to spend on insurgents killing black people. They get

(12:57):
to make arms in five years, missiles in as they
enrich uranium in ten fifteen years later, from the beginning
of the agreement its sunsets. They get all the enriched
uranium back. The experts say the breakout period maybe a
few weeks, maybe a few months. The Iranians say they're
going to take that and drop a bomb on black people,
kill all the black people. Do you really think that

(13:19):
Obama would have done a deal? Of course not. But
it was with a regime run by what is turned
people of color, and the people they're fighting are a
white group of privileged, the Jews, and now suddenly it
all gets scrambled, and you can convince yourself cognitive dissonance
that well, maybe the Iranians really hate us because of
that coop in nineteen fifty three, which is of course ridiculous.

(13:41):
The Iatola's Bastak whop as well, just for the same
reason we did. They didn't want to see a communist
running Uran anymore than we did. I'm not defending the
coup itself. I'm just pointing out that's not why they
hate us. It's absurd, you know, And you to convince yourself, well,
they'll take that one hundred billion dollars, they'll spend it
on their kids. They're gonna lie to love us. They're
people of color, they're fighting oppression, and you get all

(14:03):
this nonsense which has passed around his truth, and not
just in college campuses, but in mainstream media, in the
New York Times, in CNN, in the BBC by Christian Amenport.
But I have to say not by Bill Cunningham. And
that's why it's so important to listen to your show.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
I went there. I went to Israel. You know, I
worked in Jewish law firms for a long time. Katzman,
logan and helper, And for some reason, I feel a
great affinity for the Jewish people. What they've had to
put up with the Ring of Fire was something which
has largely been eliminated except for what's happening in certain
parts of Iran, in which they won't give up, They

(14:40):
won't spend their money to help their own people. They
continue to have the outside power about to take you over.
It's been used throughout history. The policies of the Iranian
government is awful, it's terrible, it makes no sense. However,
it's not our problem. It's the Jews causing the difficulties.
It's the classic what alf Hitler used against the Jews
is not our policies that have failed, is the Jews

(15:02):
destroying us. And that same idea is our policies have
failed internally. We can't look at ourselves as having failed.
Got to blame someone else for it. And that's always
throughout history, the jew for causing the problems. And all
the Israeli wants to do is live in peace. Israel
is a multi dimensional I've seen the gay pride flag
flying in Jerusalem. I've gone to Catholic masses in Jerusalem,

(15:24):
I've seen twenty twenty five percent of the Kanesse are Muslims.
It is a Western style democracy. The truth will set
you free. But many, as you say, I'm not going
to change my opinion, So I changed the facts. The
Palestinians have been in charge of the gods for almost
twenty years, and that they freely elected Hamasta be their government.
Knowing I think what would happen in the long run,

(15:47):
Begging that Iran will get the nuclear weapon quickly.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
Set it out over Israel.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
All hell would break loose and then it's a culture
of death, and then they'll go to heaven with the
seventy two virgins. And I wish the rest of the
world could see the reality of what Israel faces and
what they've overcome. They've called the desert to bloom. It's
a multi functional, multi dimensional Western democracy and it's working.
And I'm sure in the months ahead, when peace finally

(16:14):
comes and Benjamin not to you know who's government's going
to be in trouble for not being prepared for what
happened on October the seventh. It's going to be a problem.
And I guess they're going to change governments. And I
pray the next government has his attitude when it comes
to defending our homeland. And the Professor Uri Kaufman book
Is America into Intofada. We've not even touched the surface

(16:34):
of the of what's happening on college campus is how
they're infiltrated and paid for by ignorance from the river
to the sea. They think it's the Mississippi and the Caribbean.
They have no idea it's Jordan. In other words, killed
the Jews the six million that remained. But Professor, today's
a big day. We'll see what happens down the road.
But thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show and
Ury Kaufman the book Is America into Fada? Once again,

(16:57):
Thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Professor, you're
a great American. I think you have it right, and
I think I have it right.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
I couldn't agree more. And thank you so much for
having me. It's always a privilege to speak to you
and a pleasure to be on the show.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
God bless America and God bless Israel. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Let's continue with more news coming up next at Joe
Home of the Reds and the Bengals. News Radio seven hundred. Wow, Hi,
Billy Cunningham, Dave Keaton, hit the music, please hit the music.
Weather has changed to here in River City and we
love it. A little bit of rain. It's going to
get a little cooler. We need that too. Then good
weather returns on Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. I love

(17:35):
having on people like Yuri Kaufman, who's written books on
the subject. There's a posting about three hours ago on
the official ex account of Israel itself that says the following.
At this moment two years ago today, Israel faced the
darkest day in our history.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
They wrote.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Today, on October seventh, Palestinian homosgy Hottist invaded our land, murdering, raping,
and kidnapping innocent men, women and children. Two years later,
we remember October the seventh, We remember the victims. We
pray for the return of the hostages still held in Gaza,
and we stand united against terror. A moss must be

(18:13):
dismantled to end this war. We remain committed to our
values now more than ever. Light will rise over darkness.
Quote unquote. Two years ago, approximately one thy two hundred Jews, Muslims,
Catholics and Christians all Israelis and foreign nationals were murdered,

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and two hundred and fifty one were taken hostage. Including
in the group taken hostage was seventeen babies and toddlers,
all of whom have been killed by AMAS.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
I might add.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
The video goes on to summarize Israeli efforts to dismantle
amasa's leadership. I don't know about you, but maybe I'll
watch at some point some of the documentaries and actually
what happened in October the seventh, twenty twenty three. But
much like watching Charlie Kirk being shot down in cold blood,
it's hard to watch. But one thing I do know

(19:05):
is that Israel has the right to defend itself. The
charges of genocide are lies, damnable lies. It's not true.
You know how we were acted on December seventh, nineteen
forty one. We were not at war at that point
with Japan nor Germany. We were trying to stay the
hell out of the war because at that point it
was mainly in Asia with Japan invading China, and in

(19:27):
Europe it was of course Germany doing what Germany and
the Nazis did. Beginning of nineteen thirty nine, We tried
to stay out of it. We were sucked into it
only because of Pearl Harbor. Everything flipped. There were about
eighteen hundred service personnel and others killed at Pearl Harbor.
How do we respond to eighteen hundred being killed? We
declared war on Japan. Two days later, Hitler declared war

(19:49):
on us, and we declared war on Germany. And for
the next four years we were at a total war
for our existence. In that war, Americans directly and indirectly
killed tens of millions, the great majority who, by the way,
were civilians. Unfortunately, such as the fire bombings in Germany
and the nuclear devices set over Japan, and also the bombing.

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But it was necessary to win the war, and there
was no between nineteen forty one and nineteen forty five
till the Armacist the Peace Treaty was signed in August fifteenth,
nineteen forty five. There wasn't nothing in the American media
about killing tens of millions of innocent civilians in order
to get at the Japanese government and the German government.
It wasn't a factor. It's simply that's what war is.

(20:34):
On nine to eleven, there was about two thousand Americans
were murdered in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, and the nation's capital, and
of course in New York City when the Twin Tires fell.
And at that point we more or less had been
at war with Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, but
not really that they were killing us. They had a
clear war on us. We didn't respond to nine to eleven. Well,

(20:55):
nine to eleven got our attention, and over the next
several years, one hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed
in Afghanistan, in Iraq and still being killed, and there
wasn't met much protestation beginning in nine to eleven oh
one through the last few years and killing unfortunately unintentionally

(21:16):
hundreds of thousands of civilians all over the Middle East.
Because we declared war on al Kada, we went after him,
and we did our duty. From Israel's perspective, when those
were twelve hundred Jews, mainly Jews, but also Muslims and
Catholics in Christian Israelis were slaughtered in the most horrible way,

(21:37):
that the same proportionality would be if two hundred and
fifty thousand Americans were killed by a terrorist attack. How
would we respond, For example, if the Mexican government was
taken over by Narco terrorists and then in an incursion
into Texas that they invaded to Dallas and killed, Say,

(21:58):
I don't know, two hundred thousand Texans in Dallas, and
on the way out, kidnapped a whole bunch of students
from Baylor University and went back to Mexico and put
the students in the ground somewhere in holes in caves
in Mexico. How would we respond to that? What do
you think we would have done? Well, I can tell
you what we have done. We would have made Mexico

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a parking lot. You can't do that. So proportionality, what
happened to Israel two years ago today would be the
same as two hundred and fifty thousand Americans being killed
and twenty thousand being taken hostage by the terrorists kept
under ground in tunnel somewhere near Guadalajara. We would have

(22:41):
declared war in Mexico, invaded Mexico, killed everyone involved, dug
up the terrorists, and shot them three times in the head. Heck,
I sound like a Virginia Democrat running for the attorney
general's position, and we would have won that war. When
you get our attention. We win the war World War two,
you got our attention, and the war on terror got

(23:02):
our attention for a while. Then Obama and Biden took over,
and things that were kind of million mouthed after that,
including the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
But that's a different story.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
We were united in twenty oh one to two, three
and four held George Bush. It was a lousy, lousy
candidate and a lousy president was re elected in twenty
oh four. Because we're still at the globe, we're going
to go get you for doing this to us. Well,
the Israelis have the right to go get them who
did this to us. And the proportionality of civilian deaths

(23:32):
compared to the deaths that we've been involved in is minuscule.
In fact, many independent groups have said the Israelis bend
over backwards to kill as few Palestinians civilians as possible
going after the terrorists who did that to them on
October the seventh, twenty twenty twenty three. And so they
are more careful than we ever wore when killing civilians

(23:55):
imbedded with the combatants and amass as you may know,
is a death cult. As we sit here this Tuesday
afternoon at twelve forty five pm. Almost two days have
gone by since Donald Trump drew the line in the sand,
gave them until eight pm on Sunday night to accept
the peace treaty, and time after time after time they

(24:17):
play for more time. All it takes is for Hamas
to say, we lost you one. Here are the living hostages,
here are the dead ones, and flow in the aid,
rebuild goss and may take ten years, and we surrender,
and they probably could get some sort of free passage

(24:38):
to cutter or somewhere else. The ones that are left
living in the ground like moles probably could get that too,
to get out the hostages, but they refuse to do so.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
It is simple.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Normally, when you lose a war this badly, you simply
acknowledge reality and say we lost you one. We'll sign
some piece of paper and then the festivity. From our perspective,
it's over. But Amas doesn't want to do that. It's
one of the oddest movements in world history in which
they are a death cult. They want to die, They

(25:12):
want to spend time with those seventy two virgins committing
some active jihad and Benjamin Nintanyahu has arranged a meeting,
and instead of admitting reality and saying you know what
we lost, they want to put their facilities under schools,
under apartment buildings, under hospitals, under orphanages, under power plants

(25:32):
that they actually spend. They have five hundred miles of
tunnels like rats underneath all the important structures in Gaza.
So to get at them as an enemy combatant, the
Israelis provide notices that were coming and they have to
notify the civilians above them to get the all out
of dodge. They try their best not to kill civilians

(25:54):
because Hamas wants their own people to be killed. Hamas
wants Palestinians to be killed at the hands of the Jews.
Or if there's protest in Gossa, as there was in
Gaza City, in which average Gazans say, we can't take
this anymore, a Hamas get the hell out of here.
Hamas will come out of their holes and kill the

(26:16):
protest or shoot them in the head two or three
times and they're dead. Then they go back in the
ground torturing some of the twenty five living hostages that remain.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
And so here we.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Are again, waiting again and again.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
What will Hamas do? Won't they do?

Speaker 1 (26:32):
At some point this madness has got to stop at
some point. It's sad when hostages are killed, as so
we had prisoners of war killed in the Hanoi Hilton
because of American bombing in Hanoi, North Korea, in North Vietnam.

Speaker 5 (26:48):
It happened.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
We don't intend it, but to win wars, certain ugly
things have to transpire. To make an omelant, a few
eggs have got to be broken, and it's sad. America
spends his time trying to avoid civilian deaths, and the
Jews Israel spends its time trying to avoid civilian deaths.
One how Maas demands that their civilians be murdered on

(27:13):
the altar of jihad. Some of the leaders in Cutter
living in luxury have said, look, we know what we
know what we're doing, but they're part of the movement.
If if a little baby is killed in Gaza, who's
who's a Muslim? That's part of the process. We have
to pay to kill the Jews. And when Yuri Kaufman
talked about the ring of fire all around until recently

(27:36):
Israel faced in the North Hespala they faced Syria. They
faced Iran on the on the east, down south. They
had the hoodies, and they had all the other Jihadis groups,
Islami jihad, et cetera. The ring of fire has been
put out, and with the help of the United States
of America, Iran cannot produce electricity. Now Iran is running

(27:57):
out of water. Iran is in Syria is difficulty. But
the motivating factor of those politicians is not the warmth
and welfare of their own citizens. It is the fact
that the circumstances you find in your life is not
caused by the failure of our policies, but rather by
the Jews. The Jews did it to us. It is
a nice artifact to use, but it's wrong. Iran is

(28:21):
in its current condition because the Islamic leaders of Iran,
beginning in nineteen seventy nine, did everything in its power
to kill the Infidel, to kill the jew and use
all the resources of that great country toward building bombs
and tunnels and arming all the Jihattist around the world.
And now they're paying the price. So yes, I hope

(28:43):
Hamas at some point soon says, okay, we lost, you won.
Here are the hostages. Here are the body bags, and
then the Jews are going to release about a thousand
gee hottists, many of whom are serving life sentences for
killing large numbers of people. Wire every one hostage, it
might be forty Islamic terrorists released by the Jews thinking Okay,

(29:05):
we'll get those guys later. And that's the name of
that tune, that the failure of the public policies of
Muslim governments are obscured by the hatred they all have
for Israel, and that we're not responsible for the failure
of our policies and Jordan, or in Lebanon, or in Yemen,

(29:26):
or in Iran or Iraq, because after all, the Jews
did it. All the Jews have done all this in
the Middle East, and therefore we're not responsible for the
failure of our public policies. Blame the jew And hopefully
more and more Arab countries will figure that out. So
sometime soon, along with Professor Yurik Kaufman and others, I
hope a Moss comes to its census. It doesn't help

(29:48):
to have all these terrorist groups funding protest on demand
across college campuses. It doesn't help to have large foundations
in this country funding the protest and the assaults on
ICE personnel. These are federal cops incentivized to be attacked
by democratic politicians. Then the stormtroopers arrive and box in

(30:10):
some of the ice vehicles or shoot at police officers.
That's what's happening, incentivized by big left wing democratic politicians
in Chicago, in Los Angeles and California and Portland. It's sad,
but it's the way things are. It's the manifestation of
true evil. So today we commemorate the second anniversary of

(30:32):
the slaughter of about twelve hundred Jews on October the seventh,
two years ago, and they're taking a two hundred and
fifty one hostages. A few remain. I'm sure they're in
terrible condition. And if I had a loved one living
in a hole somewhere in Gaza, i'd want almost anything
done and get them back. And I get that completely.
But nonetheless, the Jews and Israelis are not the problem.

(30:52):
It is Islamic Jihat. It's the problem. Beginning in nineteen
seventy nine, the Middle East was plunged into darkness. Largely,
I hope more and more citizens and Lebanon's maybe has
figured it out, and Jordan has figured it out, and
maybe Iran will figured out. We live the way we
live in Iran because of the failure of our policies
and misuse of our moneies, not because of Israel.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
Let's continue with more.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
After one o'clock today, I have a guest here from
Heritage Foundation Heritage dot org about what's really happening happening
with the ice attack on federal cops and also who's
funding the whole process, and the fact that although the
media loves to talk about illegals cannot get medicaid, this
guest and others will talk about how it's done. Black

(31:38):
letter law is correct, it's in the books. Illegals cannot
get medicaid. But there's so many workarounds on that issue,
such as whether someone is not necessarily illegal maybe undocumented
it ought to be should citizens get government benefits because
undocumented carries a whole bunch of connotation. But we'll see

(32:01):
what happens down the road. Then after two o'clock today
will be the great Grover Norquist of Americans for tax reform,
and with the real goal of the left wing in
Congress is relative the taxes and things in that things
of that character.

Speaker 5 (32:15):
So let's continue with more.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Plus of course, the Bengalley's this Sunday at four to
twenty five are going to be in Green Bay, and
after that in Tennessee, then after that in Pittsburgh. We
will see what happens and keep hope alive, because when
you look at think about the REGs and the Bengals,
all we have is hope.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
Don't have much else. All we have is hope.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Bill cunning Him the Great American with you every day.
But say a prayer for those who have been killed
at the hands of one of the worst religious movements
in world history, Islamic Jihad. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven
hundred WLW, Bill Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, immigration

(32:55):
is a huge issue right now, and the President ran
on the issue of doing something were acted about the
illegal immigration migration into this country and all that foretells
And every time I listen to the media now we're
being told that the federal law prohibits the illegal immigrants
are getting medical care and hospitalization, which is on the
face is accurate, but actually it's completely inaccurate. There's so

(33:15):
many workarounds, especially the California Loop in which they're we're
paying for the illegal migration in this country is a
magnet into hospitals and emergency rooms. And if you've been
in an er recently, you see a lot of faces
in there that appears they're not paying a damn thing.
The rest of us are. And of course the Heritage Foundation,
Heritage dot org has been there for decades, which is

(33:36):
on the face is accurate, but actually it's completely inaccurate.
There's so many workarounds, especially the California loop in which
they're we're paying for the illegal migration in this country
is a magnet into hospitals and emergency rooms, and if
you've been in an er recently, you see a lot
of faces in there that appears they're not paying a
damn thing. The rest of us are. And of course

(33:56):
the Heritage Foundation, Heritage dot org has been there for
decades now. Conservative principles and how they apply to this
great nation of ours.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
And Laura Reese.

Speaker 6 (34:05):
Actually has authority over DC, and as does the President
has unique powers here in DC that he doesn't in
other states and localities. So when we're talking about the
National Guard and bringing them into a city or a state,
as we're seeing the need for in cities like Portland
and Chicago.

Speaker 7 (34:25):
Right now, as a general rule, the president needs to
have the governor of that state request the National Guard
to come in. However, if the president declares an insurrection
there because there is a riot or some sort of
violent activity that prevents the president from carrying out the law,

(34:49):
then the president can call the National Guard into a
city or a state without cooperation from the governor.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
And is it limited to federal properties because right now
all hell's breaking loose in Portland and Chicago especially, and
in fact, the mayor Brandon Johnson, who is completely out
of his gord, is talking about issuing executive orders that
would bar CPD Chicago police from helping. But does it
only involve federal assets around ice facilities or federal courthouses

(35:20):
or could it involve other aspects of federal enforcement.

Speaker 6 (35:24):
Well, for the interruption law, no, it doesn't have to
be federal. I mean recall for later when the riots
were happening there in the nineties after the Rodney King trial.
That was you know, national Guard just out on the
streets keeping the street safe. That wasn't about federal property
or federal agents. So no, not limited to that now

(35:47):
in current events, because we're talking about ICE trying to
carry out immigration enforcement of our immigration laws that Congress passed,
then oftentimes we have rioters appearing around ICE buildings and
attacking the agent. So you know the current situation. It
is often about federal property, but it doesn't have to

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be right.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
And so at this point you would like to think
the governors and the mayors would say, we could use
the help. I use the example of MARYE. Bowser, the
mayor of Washington, d C. Who was against it until
it happened. Now she seems to be in favor of it.
Plus the mayor of Memphis appears to be saying, Okay,
let's see what happens, but the governor says, let's do it.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
So it's not required. Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Right?

Speaker 6 (36:34):
It's always easier when the governor is asking for the help,
but it is not required.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
And as far as the attacks on ICE, do you
have a sense that the rhetoric by the liberal democratic
politicians incentivize physical attacks on federal law enforcement? Is that
something you're examining absolutely?

Speaker 6 (36:57):
I mean, how many times have democratic leaders called Ice Nazis,
the Gestapo, and on and on fascists they are inciting violence.
And if you think about California Governor Newsom demanding that
ICE agents not wear masks after ICE agents have been attacked, threatened,

(37:22):
had their family members docked and threatened, you know, of
course ICE agents are going to wear masks because they
don't want to be distinguished. Yet they've got, you know,
very clear markings and uniform that they are law enforcements.
The name of the individuals doesn't matter. And I don't hear,
you know, the governor of California or other Democrat leaders

(37:46):
telling Antifa to.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Remove their masks.

Speaker 6 (37:49):
They're perfectly fine with the violent rioters being covered up
and not identifiable. So you know, that's typical for the left,
isn't it.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
A ain't political act?

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Because the state officials or the city cannot tell federal
law enforcement how to dress when they do their job.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
They can't.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
In other words, this is simply political and no one's
going to pay attention to Governor Newsom.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
On this issue.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
Correct, that is correct.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Let's talk about paid protesters. I've seen some YouTube videos
in which certain individuals show up at every riot, every protest.
The same person's fifty to one hundred strong might show
up for Gaza and other times they show up anti vacs,
and other times they'll show up for immigration issues, another
time they'll show up for Black Lives Matter. What is

(38:38):
the legalities of foundations and whether it's Iran or a
communist Red China or other organizations left wing groups by
Zuckerberg's ex wife who paid twenty million dollars to crowds
on demand, or other institutions whose job it is to
organize protests and maybe insurrections or riots and major cities.

(39:00):
And is that in violation of federal law? If the
same protesters change their garb and show up at different
kind of rallies, well.

Speaker 6 (39:10):
If they're practicing free speech and not bleeding over to
incitement or violence, you know, again, as we just said,
it doesn't matter really what they're wearing, but if they're
crossing state lines and citing violence, carrying out violence, that
is where they are breaking the law. And ever since

(39:33):
the riots of twenty twenty, you know, we've been calling
for investigations into the organizers and the funders of these
clearly organized rioters, and finally now the Trump administration seems
to be doing that.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
So if that becomes a matter of public I think
generally those of us involved in the news business understand
these are individuals that are paid to be there, but
they whip others into a froth. Then they get connected
to other left wing social as groups and then from
that begins all the all the illegal activities. And there
were other examples. For example, protesters in August were caught

(40:10):
on camera displaying at guillotine and clashing with police before
law enforcement fired and munitions to calm it down. And
so when individuals are not like I are not really
concerned with the issue, but they're bought and paid for,
that's that's a different issue. What role does sanctuary cities
play into this? And I watched the news conference the
other day with the Chief of Police of Chicago who

(40:32):
was outraged with the idea that his comps are not helping,
which I think wasn't true. But as far as the
issue sanctuary city sanctuary states, does the sanctuary city really
have an illegal status?

Speaker 6 (40:43):
No, it doesn't. And recall, sanctuary leaders tried to have
tried to justify their refusal and the path to cooperate
with Ice by saying, while immigrations the federal matter, you know,
we stay in locals. We don't have immigration authority, so
we're not going to enforce immigration law. Now we've got
cities like Chicago and Portland obstructing ICE, and that's where

(41:04):
they cross the line. They are violating the law, and
it reveals the lies of their prior justification for sanctuary policies.
What they're really about is preventing immigration enforcements to facilitate
and prolong illegal immigration here because of their political power
depends on it for their calculations.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
So much like kind of much like ordering Ice not
to have a mask. Also, sanctuary cities have no legal
status at all.

Speaker 6 (41:37):
No, they don't. It's just a policy that they declare
or sometimes lie about, but practice and really it has
become an obstruction, a prevention of carrying out several.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Law and lower raceothe Heritage Foundation dot org. As far
as the illegal is, getting medicaid is an article of
faith and the mainstream meta talks about it all the
time that it's illegal for illegals to get medicaid, and
that's I hear it on NBCCBS, ABC, NPR and headline
is despite the comments of the administration, illegals illegally cannot

(42:17):
get medicaid, And is that true?

Speaker 5 (42:20):
Or false.

Speaker 6 (42:22):
It's false. The last love to play word games. And
so recall Biden waives his lawnd over many populations worth
of millions of people and declared them to be here
lawfully when they in fact were not, and then turns
around and would give federal benefits to those quote unquote
lawful aliens. And also medicaid works through the states, so

(42:46):
we know there are many states, including New York and California,
that do in fact give medicaid to illegal aliens here.

Speaker 5 (42:55):
Those governors brag about it.

Speaker 6 (42:57):
And California quickly went in the world read many billions.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Of dollars because of it.

Speaker 6 (43:03):
So this is really a fiscal bottomless pit for these
states and the residents there. The citizens there need to
rise up and put political pressure against these governors and
leaders and say no, our tax dollars should be going
to resources for us, not to people who aren't supposed
to be here.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
You know, I heard it this morning on a national
broadcast that despite the statements that Donald Trump, illegals cannot
get medicaid. Can you describe in specificity the workaround by
California that gets to the same place that is illegals
getting medicaid and federal funding for medical issues as opposed

(43:44):
to the black letter law that legals can't get it.
How does California work around that specifically, Well, Medicaid.

Speaker 6 (43:52):
Is largely dependent on and uses the states for vehicles
for distribution. And so when you've got a state that
sets up distribution to the populations, it determines, and in
California's case, it has determined that it is going to
include anyone here, regardless of immigration status, in that population,

(44:14):
then those aliens can receive and do receive that funding.
And also, I mean you had mentioned emergency rooms when
illegal aliens here often don't have health insurance and treat
the emergency room as their primary care provider, while hospitals
need to be paid for that, and they know that

(44:35):
they're not going to be paid by the illegal aliens,
and so they turn to the state and say, okay,
please pay this bill. And so that happens every single day.
And that is why one of many reasons why we
need to enforce our immigration laws so that hard earned
tax dollars are going to US citizens and those who are.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Here lawfully, because we can't stop legal from going into
an er claiming I got you know, I got a
broken arm, I neat stitches, I have a fever, Give
me some medicine.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
We can't stop that from occurring.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
And that pass along goes first to the state, then
they put it in some formula to send it to
the Feds, and the Feds pay that. And so that's
why we need to stop stop illegals getting into the country.
How much money are we talking about in California, roughly
that they pay for medical care for illegals? About how
much in the state of California.

Speaker 6 (45:28):
I don't know per head, but earlier this year they
California quickly went into the red three billion dollars and
then just a few months later that doubled to being
in the whole six billion dollars, to the point where
then Governor Nathan had to apply the brakes a little
bit and narrow eligibility kind of the terms of giving

(45:51):
that money to illegal alien population. So you know, yet
again reality will smack a the communist the socialists in
the head every single time.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
And lastly, Laura raised as far as these other governmental benefits,
so we're talking about medicaid paying for illegals directly or indirectly.
What about Section eight housing? What about food stamps, what
about free public education? What about free col cards? And
what the prescriptions are all paid for? That it isn't
just Medicaid getting paid to the illegals for their medical care.

(46:26):
What about the other federal benefits, the whole menu of benefits.
They are treated the same in Blue states as regular citizens.
And so is it true that illegals get food stamps,
Section eight, housing, free prescriptions, all the things that regular
Americans get. Is that also being paid for by the taxpayer.

Speaker 6 (46:43):
That certainly was during the Biden administration. Now during the
Trump administration at the federal level, they've been turning those
bigots off. The Secretary of Housing and Urban Development have
certainly turned off the Title eight housing for illegal aliens.
You will do their workarounds in Blue states again. But
all of this goes to show why you need to

(47:06):
prevent illegal immigration and to it fully enforced immigration laws
against those who are here illegally. Because every one of
these benefits, JEFF facilitates and prolongs and sinks the US
more into debt and deficit. And that's why we've got

(47:27):
to fully enforce the law. And that's why the last
is aiming all of their fire at ice to delay
and prevent deportations.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
When you drive around your car and you hear on
the radio, as we all know, illegals cannot get Medicaid funding,
do you want to drive off the road?

Speaker 6 (47:48):
I tend to yell at the radio a lot.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Yeah, all right, Laura reso Heritage dot Org. And thanks
for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And the best
thing we have in this so called democracy is informed
citizens upon which they can cast and form the ballots
and coming in the elections about four weeks away, and
a lot of these issues may be directly or indirectly
on the ballot. But understand, the way to stop a

(48:10):
legal migration is out the Southern bord. It goes once
they get into the country and get status or don't
get status, then all hell breaks loose financially. But Laura Race,
thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Laura,
you're a great American. Thank you very much.

Speaker 6 (48:22):
Well, thank you, thank you, Bill having on.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Well, let's continue with more news coming up. But when
you hear in the news that legals don't get Medicaid benefits,
there's the answers, and hopefully you'll understand. Sometimes the media
is not accurate. Bill Cunningham News Radio. Seven hundred Wow.

Speaker 8 (48:38):
Second down and sixteen after that six yard sack for
Trey Hendrickson, Placo fakes a handoff.

Speaker 5 (48:45):
Here comes the rush, his pass over.

Speaker 8 (48:47):
The middle and it is intercepted offer ricochet by Jordan Battle.
He's running it back at the twenty five and he'll
be tackled after getting down to the twenty five yard line.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Hell, hello, quiet, and I'm Skulls.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
I'm broadcasting.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
Guys. You nice segment. We have a legendary Xavier coach
and my first coach.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Before we get to Gordon Veterino, who has all the answers.
How many feet is it from home plate to second base?
How many feet is it across the football field? How
long are basketball courts? The parameters? But segment, the Bengals
just made an incredible trade. I'm gonna ask Gordon veteran
or whether he likes this trade or not. Tell the
American people what's going.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
On, Willie.

Speaker 9 (49:34):
The Bengals and a very rare intra division trade have
acquired quarterback veteran Joe Flacco today in a trade with
the Cleveland Browns. What they're going to receive a six
round draft pick, while the Browns landed a fifth round
pick in the deal, and Flacco joins the Bengals two
days after. Zach Taylor was noncommittal about Jake Browning, who

(49:57):
was thrown to eight interceptions, taking over for Joe Burrow.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Gordon Venteran, what do you think about the trade? You
like Joe Flacco?

Speaker 4 (50:04):
Yes or no?

Speaker 1 (50:05):
It's got to be an improvement segment.

Speaker 9 (50:08):
What do you say, seg I agree with the coach,
no question about it, bringing am out here and let's go.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
What does this mean for Jake the Snake?

Speaker 9 (50:16):
Well, it means that he goes back to what he
was doing. And uh, you know what backup quarterback is.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
He going to start someday in Green Bay.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
I don't know, Willie.

Speaker 9 (50:26):
Maybe though, maybe mister Flacco will be on a high
speed lane fast track to learn some of the offense.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Gordon Venteran, you recall the seventh grade Saint Savior Grade school.
The year would have been something like nineteen sixty or
sixty one when you called me the quarterback of the
Saint Savior Golden Bears, and one cheerleader was Penny Esbrock.

Speaker 5 (50:50):
Do you recall that unbelievable. That's that's impressive, very impressive.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Yes, it all began with you with basket off, football
and baseball.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
It was fun. It was fun. It's been a few
years though, hasn't it at least a couple?

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Do you turn ninety today?

Speaker 5 (51:06):
Or when?

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Is it?

Speaker 6 (51:08):
In?

Speaker 5 (51:08):
About an hour?

Speaker 1 (51:09):
An hour you'll be ninety sake, Give me some more
sports and make it fast place.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
This is fast breaking news.

Speaker 9 (51:14):
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Speaker 4 (51:30):
Coaches Jack Monahan.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
He dated Penny first and he's the a chief of
police in Amberley Village for many years.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
Jack.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Did he ever arrest you going through Amberland Village? Did
he give you a pass?

Speaker 10 (51:41):
It came close a few times, but no, say Please continue.

Speaker 9 (51:44):
Willie, And we also want to thank uh Lear's Prime
Market for our lunch today. Deluxe Deli located in beautiful
downtown Milford, Learsprime dot com, Lears Prime Always and of course,
like I said, the Bengals have acquired Joe Flacco in
a trade with the Cleveland Browns. We'll see, if you know,
We'll see if he goes on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Yes or no segment. The fans desperate fans alone. Now
I'm starting on Sunday.

Speaker 9 (52:12):
If they could get him on the fast track, will
he to give him some plays?

Speaker 4 (52:16):
I say, flat goes in. He's in. I failed in Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
If you fail in Cleveland, why do we take him
in Cincinnati?

Speaker 9 (52:22):
He can, he can only there's only an upside now,
only an upside. I think he's got a little bit
better players than Cleveland does. Really, Yeah, Gordon's offense. When
you began, who hired you at Saints? Save your grades?

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Going to start at your career to culminated, and you
coaching Xavier baseball?

Speaker 4 (52:40):
How did that all begin? That's been a long time.

Speaker 11 (52:44):
I've got it.

Speaker 10 (52:45):
I have to think about that, think about it. There's
a lot of people involved with a lot of nuns.
A lot of nuns.

Speaker 5 (52:52):
Well, there was what in every classroom.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
I didn't have like a lay teacher until I went
to Deer Park High School as a sophomore. I never
saw one. I don't know if nuns were male or female.
I have no idea. What the hell do you remember
who the priest was that year when you was the father,
Joseph Dowie.

Speaker 5 (53:08):
I can't believe that that's.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
Everyone knows that though.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
That's an easy one. His two assistance father McNicholas.

Speaker 5 (53:14):
I was away with, but you beat me to it,
bit sag. Please continue with sports, Willie.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Let's see baseball tonight.

Speaker 9 (53:21):
The American League Division Series has the spotlight Seattle in Detroit.
That's one one, Toronto and the Yankees, with the Jays
up two games to none.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Coach, who do you like now between Toronto and the
Yankees tonight?

Speaker 5 (53:33):
I go with the Yankees every time they play.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Please continue, Willie.

Speaker 9 (53:36):
It looks like the golfers high school golf is being
delayed today because of the rainy weather around the tri State.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
That's Roger Bacon, Ron Basevich and also Wayne Carucci.

Speaker 9 (53:48):
Roger Bacon was tied first place what early on yesterday,
but they they are seventh overall after day one of action.
Madeira and Fenwick are second and third overall in my
division two girls, Coach, did you ever coach golf?

Speaker 5 (54:05):
I played it a lot, but I've never coached it.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Please continue segment. It's all I got, So coach, let
me tell you a story. Okay, I'm a I went
to Saint Savior as a as a first grader. I
first met you when I was in the seventh grade,
you might recall, and you came up with the name
Golden Bears. You know how you came up with the
name Golden Bears. I'll tell you the story. If you
don't remember it, I have no idea. Hell all r

(54:28):
At that point, there's a guy named im Hoff who
was playing basketball for the University of California, and you
liked the way im Hoff played basketball, and so you
had to come up with a name. The principal came
to you, Sister Mary Ruth, and said, well, if we're
going to start a football program at Saint Savior's, we
need a nickname. And you said, well, I like this

(54:49):
im Hoff guy. One don't we call him the Golden Bears?
And she said, that's a great name. So that's how
the Golden Bears started and football. And I can remember
coming out for the football team and I played baseball
a lot, and you had this little line us up
on the goal line. Gave everybody a football and said,
who can throw it twenty thirty yards? I threw it
like thirty five yards and you said what's your name?

(55:10):
I said Bill Cunningham and you said you're the quarterback.
So that's how I got that. You had some plays
like forty six and twenty five crossbuck. You recall twenty
five and forty six crossbuck. Those are the plays.

Speaker 5 (55:22):
That you gave me.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Naked.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
How about the naked reverse?

Speaker 10 (55:26):
Remember that one in the Catholic school.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
You wouldn't use that.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
I little thing, well segment then naked reverse.

Speaker 9 (55:34):
Are you sure you can tell this story? Yes, you
didn't take your clothes off or nothing. And again exactly
at that point you didn't show anything.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Okay, everyone lad into the left and I got the
ball and I pivoted and faked alan striker going around
the left side. I faked the pitch and all of
a sudden, I put the ball on my hip and
ran the opposite direction with no blockers and on linemen
in front of me, and you called it the naked reverse.
Do you recall.

Speaker 12 (55:57):
That petty on the sidelines on and she you know
where she's singing aka laka ching akaalaka chong akaka ching
Chong Chong Chong Chong booma a.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Boomah like a sis komba. Saint Savior, Saint Savior raw
raw raw here.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
We call that.

Speaker 5 (56:14):
One coach that I remember is.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Remember her that little skirtchy hat on with that white blouse.
I was attractive, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (56:23):
Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 10 (56:24):
Yeah, that's your memory is unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (56:28):
I got that right, You got that right.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
At that point in my life, my father was an alcoholic,
terrible he left and when I hadn't needed a father
figure in my life as a twelve.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
Thirteen, fourteen year old, that was you.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
You had values, you had ethics, you had morals, and
living there in Deer Park, there were fathers in every home,
but I was one of the few homes that didn't
have a dead And so it was you, And it
was Jerry Wood, and it was Hal Pennington, and it
was Joe Hawk and uh And and Jerry and Hank
Has and Tom Griswold. Those were the father figures in

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my life. I played sports. I threw myself in a football, basketball, baseball,
and golf. But the memories I have of you at St.
Savior for those three years like the corners of my mind.
I remember one time you stole me from Ev Banker
at we were playing for the Thomas Funeral Home, and uh,
you wanted to recruit me to play for Bernatt Pontiac. Yes,

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and so I had to go to Ev Banker's home
and tell him that Gordon Veterino is stealing me in
two or three other guys to leave the Thomas Funeral
Home to go to Bernat Pontiac.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
Did you did you get an I O, my, he
gave me things.

Speaker 5 (57:38):
Okay, I do not remember that.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
And then you have this. Here's the picture of the
eighth grade boys team at Saint Savior in baseball.

Speaker 5 (57:50):
How many of those can you name?

Speaker 6 (57:51):
Now?

Speaker 4 (57:52):
About half?

Speaker 1 (57:53):
About half? I see Jim Wannstrom, I see Alan Stricker,
I see me Marty Schwenarski, and I have to look
at the other one. It's a little blurry. I see
Bobby Lake here. Remember, very good. And you've kept this
for the last.

Speaker 5 (58:08):
Time I've had it ever since.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Sixty three years.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
That's it's been a while, sake, that's you haven't changed
a bit.

Speaker 10 (58:16):
Will you take it right in front of the home
that was right across the street from where the.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
School was right there. Yeah, coach, thank you ninety years.
May you have ninety more years. Gordon Veterino? How many
times have I used his name? What wom Gordon Veterina?

Speaker 5 (58:33):
Zillions? And here he had dollar?

Speaker 9 (58:35):
If he had had a dollar for every time you
mentioned his name, he'd be you know.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
I'd be rich a lot rich. Well, coach, thank you
for coming in. I p ninetieth. Do you listen now
and then.

Speaker 5 (58:47):
All the time?

Speaker 1 (58:48):
You ever, you don't miss much?

Speaker 5 (58:50):
Well, no, this is a this is a big thrill
for me.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
And you're here with Mark and Mindy your son. I
see many at Montgomery and and Montgomery. I get me
a slabber rib every now and then. So, boy, you're
the best coach. Thank you for what you've done for me.

Speaker 5 (59:05):
Well, you're welcome, and I'm glad I did it. You
did it, yes, and.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
You got the Xavier and you want it all. But Gordon,
may you may you have great success. Without you, I
wouldn't be the kind of person I am today.

Speaker 5 (59:15):
Oh, that's nice for you to say that.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
Thank you, Thank you, sech give me out of the stude.

Speaker 5 (59:21):
WILLI and honor of the coach.

Speaker 9 (59:22):
We leave you with the immortal words of the Stooge Report.

Speaker 5 (59:27):
This is getting good.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
Stand Horde, Thank you coach. Congratulations on the life well live.

Speaker 5 (59:34):
This was super there, buddy, Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
A texture from Ron Raff from all Or High School
with an image. Oh yeah, he was texting me right now,
one of my coaches, one of them.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
You taught them all.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
Yeah, he was a good friend.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
Yeah, continue to have a good life.

Speaker 5 (59:49):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Let's continue with more segment.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
Thank you, yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
On seven hundred WLW Nasian.

Speaker 11 (59:55):
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Speaker 5 (59:56):
Deposit that's deposit, enter it now.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Bill Cunning him the great American of course, Grover Northwest
is going to frequent guest of mind for many years,
if not decades. He's the founder CEO of Americans for
Tax Reform. He is the underpinnings of what happened during
the Reagan and the Trump terms and returning more money
to the American people and chopping down the socialist inclinations
the Democrats, which are only getting worse not better. Now

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in the middle of the government shut down, and there's
some effort by the media and the Democrats to go
back and redo the Big Beautiful Bill, which had lots
of tax really for average Americans, and also to make
sure that the legals get medical care. And one thing
that drives me crazy, and I got to talk to
Grover about this one, is every time the national media
says the federal law prohibits Medicaid dollars going to illegal aliens,

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my eyes roll back in my head because in black
letter law that is true, but in practice it is
not true.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
In fact, it's a damnable lie.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Illegals get lots of medical care paid for through that
by the taxpayer, especially in Blue states. Grover Norquest to
ATR Americans for Tax Reform, Welcome again to the Bill
Cunningham Show. And first of all, on the lie about
the Feds, through Medicaid or other sources, not paying for
the medical bills of illegals, can you put that one.

Speaker 11 (01:01:19):
To rest bill.

Speaker 13 (01:01:22):
One of the ways I heard it explained by a
Democratic governor went as follows, what the bill really means.
What I mean when I say that illegals can't get it,
is I mean undocumented can't get it. Now, somebody that
comes across the border illegally and gets from the Biden
administration this little card that says sometime in the next

(01:01:45):
six years, come back and we'll have a hearing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
He has a document.

Speaker 13 (01:01:49):
Now he's there illegally, but he has a document. So
their shift from are you there illegally?

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
Two? Do you have a document? A few's paper, guy's
as paper.

Speaker 13 (01:02:01):
But he's never coming back to the court. The answer
is you're right. The law is very clear.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
People who enter this.

Speaker 13 (01:02:10):
Country illegally do get benefits that Americans pay for. There
are people who young males who could be working, who
choose not to work, who choose not even to look
for work, who get taxpayer benefits. Right, The requirement there

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is very low, even for citizens. Okay, And by the way,
you can make up to like half a million dollars
and still be getting welfare under this. This is ridiculous,
and the other team throws up shafts. The Democrats want
to spend one and a half trillion billion dollars more

(01:02:50):
than the Republicans while whining about the deficit.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
So undocumented is not illegal according to Joe Biden's policies
on document it means you don't have a piece of
paper getting a hearing. Those are tens of millions of
people that are undocumented. Of course they're here waiting for
a hearing that will never take place, and so that's
the loophole. Plus California has another work around. Many Blue

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states had the same thing. Explain what Gavin Newsom did
was a Calcare whatever that gave every human being legal
or illegal in the state of California free medical care
and the taxpayer dime.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
Explain how that works.

Speaker 13 (01:03:30):
Well, they do this, but they also the money just
goes to the hospital and therefore.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
And then get spent.

Speaker 13 (01:03:40):
It is the easy way to understand is they're lying.
They want more money and they want to be able
to spend it as they wish, and they do not
wish to have the American people see that they are
spending money on non citizens, on people who came here
ill legally, on people who are supposed to be deported,

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on some Americans who make hundreds and hundreds of thousands
of dollars but they get this free healthcare, and others
who simply refuse to work.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
And could be working. They're not handicapped or anything.

Speaker 13 (01:04:21):
So this was done to reduce the cost of Obamacare
by cutting back on people who are abusing the system.
And for the left, abusing the system means somebody owes
you money and is going to vote for you because
you gave it to them. They don't get any benefit
out of giving some money to somebody who needs it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:42):
So the issue ought to be non citizens.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
If you're a non citizen, non citizen, not documented, undocumented, legal,
how about non citizens? If you put down on the
ballot grove an no request and say should non citizens
receive free government benefits?

Speaker 5 (01:04:58):
I would think that's a ninety ten issue.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
But the media changes it to illegals undocumented instead of citizens.
And I think most Americans kind of conflate citizens with
legal status and those have temporary protective status from Venezuela,
Haiti or Cuba, with the idea of we don't want
to use our money to incentivize individuals that come here

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illegally and secondly by undocumented. As an American, I want
American citizens to have priority over illegals, undocumented, temporary protective status, etc.
But if you would ask the average American should we
give non citizens billions of dollars in our tax dollars?

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
Answers no.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
If you say, well, what about undocumented? But they have
a hearing set that's different, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Well, in California.

Speaker 13 (01:05:50):
This was actually on the ballot several decades ago, and
overwhelmingly the people of California said, no welfare for people
who aren't citizens, and then they got some court to
strike that down because for some reason. This is back
when the courts were much more left wing. So, yes,
it is a serious problem. Here's the cheerful news. The

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Republicans actually passed a budget and they put it forward
and they cut spending and they reduced taxes. There was
going to be a four trillion dollar tax increase on
the American people, and the Big Beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
Bill stopped that.

Speaker 13 (01:06:35):
So every single Democrat voted against protecting the American people
from a four And by that way, that's four trillion
every decade.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
So it's not like four trillion and you're done.

Speaker 13 (01:06:47):
Four trillion this decade, another four trillion next decade. That's
a four hundred billion every year into infinity. Is what
Trump and the Republicans said, this will not happen. The
Democrats wanted to raise taxes on people with children. They

(01:07:08):
wanted to raise taxes on the standard reduction that people
get to take. But by reducing the standard reduction, they
wanted to raise taxes on small businesses. They wanted to
raise taxes on people who get social Security. They want
to raise taxes on businesses in general, on and on investment,
on job creating investment. They wanted to raise taxes. And

(01:07:28):
the Republicans said no, and Trump signed the bill and
they didn't have the votes to stop it because they
lost the election because they were running left wing crazy.
And now they're sitting back, going, we will blow up
everything and shut down the government for two months.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
Remember this in two months is all we have to
do in the budget.

Speaker 13 (01:07:49):
This is a fight over what do we do for
two months. Republicans say, how about status quote for two months?
We just get that done, and the Democrats go, no,
but we won't talk to you about doing something other
and status crow, len't.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
You give us one and a half trillion.

Speaker 13 (01:08:04):
Dollars of average Americans paying taxes for the Democrats? And
the Democrats want to spend it themselves, so they don't
have the votes to keep to race access. They don't
have the votes to race spending, but they want to
say we will shut the government down.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Hold it in the movies.

Speaker 13 (01:08:24):
When they hold somebody hostage and they will shoot the hostage.
If you don't let us have a plane to leave
the country. Okay, that's what the Democrats are doing. And
then they're sitting there in the bank with a gun
to the teller's head, going the Republicans vade us do this.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
The legendary Grover Norquest I had on Senator Ram Paul
about a week ago, and also Congressman Tom Massey, and
those two guys said both said the same thing. Donald
Trump wants to spend an additional two trillion dollars every
year and the Democrats want to spend three trillion dollars

(01:09:00):
every year. How do you respond to Rand Paul and
Tom Massey that voted no against Trump because they want
to balance budget the penny plan? How do you respond
to that.

Speaker 13 (01:09:09):
One, Well, their votes no didn't reduce spending by a penny.
In fact, you worried that we were so close in
the House that there.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
Are no votes. In the past have.

Speaker 13 (01:09:24):
Forced us to go get Democrat votes, which then cost
you a lot of money. This happens more often at
the state level and at the federal level. But I'm
all in favor of what Ron Paul did. When the
Republicans had thirty extra votes in the House. He would
stand there and go, I'm the North Pole, or not
the north pole, the north star, and here's perfect here's

(01:09:45):
what I think perfect would be. And I probably agree
with him on most of his.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Definition of what perfect budget would look like.

Speaker 5 (01:09:51):
Yes, however, perfect.

Speaker 13 (01:09:54):
Budget is not on the menu today. We don't have
the votes to get there. So what we want to
do is take every step in the right direction we can.
And this big, beautiful bill was a step in reducing
the size and scope of government from where it was heading.

(01:10:14):
It was heading way up into the sky, and they
brought it down. We need to do this every year,
again and again and again, and I get the frustration.
How can we have to do this all the time?
How come the government can't be reduced? The Democrats didn't
build this monstrosity in a year or two. It was

(01:10:34):
sixty two years between nineteen thirty two and nineteen ninety
four when the Democrats in two two year periods thirty
four to thirty six New Deal and then.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Sixty four to sixty six great society that's at the
federal government was.

Speaker 13 (01:10:53):
Invented, created, built, you know, the seeds planted that grew
into great trees to increest that and now we're trying
to undo that expensive damage.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
It's not easy. It takes time.

Speaker 13 (01:11:09):
We have narrow majorities, and whenever somebody goes off and
says I want to give speeches instead of working to
reduce the size the government, I go, you know, if
we had a thirty vote majority, that would be fine.
I never wind it. Ron Paul, when he would take
that approach, Gingrich used to say, okay, we need everybody's volt.

(01:11:29):
There's the Ron Paul exception. And people go, how do
I get one of the Ron Paul exemptions? He said,
vote against federal funding to fight floods when your district
is underwater, then you seek him, Then you get the exemption.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
You know that's a great answer. Because you grow up
in North Qost. I can remember Ronald Reagan saying, you
get eighty percent of what you want, we'll work on
the other twenty percent later. And so in senat Iran
Paul's case, there's flex a little bit of flexibility in
the Senate, and Tom Massey's case, there's no flexibility in
that house. There were one vote away from this thing
going down in flames, in which case all hell would

(01:12:04):
have broken loose. So at this present time. We're in
the middle of this government shutdown and the Democrats are
shutting down the government because they want to provide premium
support under Obomita care for those making five hundred thousand
dollars a year. They went NPR and PBS to get
five hundred million dollars immediately.

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
They want to.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
Repeal the Big Beautiful Bill, which is repealing the tax
on tips over time in Social Security. But the media
doesn't point out those things, do they No?

Speaker 13 (01:12:34):
And the Democrats say, oh, it's about healthcare, okay, And
the answer is no, it's not. It's a trillion and
a half dollars A piece of that is quote unquote healthcare.
And again much of that is healthcare for people who
aren't citizens. But as you point out, they want to
give money to public broadcasting. You know, a bunch of

(01:12:55):
rich people have fun with it with TV shows that
they like at the Hoyt Feloy that you know, don't appreciate. Well,
they can pay for it them. Sure, you want to
go to the symphony, pay for the symphony. Don't steal
money from taxpayers to pay for your symphony.

Speaker 4 (01:13:12):
All right, how do you see this thing?

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Because right now it appears we have an unmovable object,
which is Donald Trump meeting the irresistible resistible force.

Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
Chuck Schumer. We're several days into this thing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
The last shut down with Trumpster was about thirty five days,
about seven years ago. The next paychecks not to be
paid out will be will be the fifteenth of this month.
The confederal workers were paid on the thirtieth. Now the
fifteenth is coming up. How do you see this playing out? Well,
the last thirty five days where Donald Trump collapsed, which

(01:13:46):
I think is unlikely. What Chuck Schumer bow his head
and acknowledged the reality. How do you see it playing out?

Speaker 13 (01:13:52):
Groover Northquist, Well, what the Trump administration has said they're
going to do is layoff extraeous workers.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Remember they said, we want.

Speaker 13 (01:14:02):
The workers, the necessary workers to come to work, but
the non necessary workers not to come to work. I
got a suggestion, why are we paying the non necessary.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
Workers at all in the first place?

Speaker 13 (01:14:15):
And so we need to reduce the total number of
federal employees, the number of people even at the Pentagon,
in the civilian employees of the Penagon, not the guys
who with to carry rifles and fly planes, but the civilians,
the bureaucrats, who manage it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
The Controller of the.

Speaker 13 (01:14:35):
Pentagon said, they're seven hundred thousand. We only need five
hundred thousand. We did not downsize the bureaucracy when we
downsize the military after the Soviet Union broke into fifteen pieces.
Just they're a thousand miles further back than they used
to be. You don't need the same size army, but
somehow we got the same bureaucracy. And the Pentagon is
probably the least of our worries in terms of how

(01:14:57):
it's out much waste there. It's because they do some
pretty serious work, but the rest of the government is
very expensive. When they hire people and hire people, they
don't fire people who misbehave they They used to have
unions everywhere. Trump has gotten read of the unions anywhere

(01:15:17):
that national security is involved, which was the law. I mean,
any president could have done that up until now. The
Bushes could have done that, they just chose not to.
Obama could have done that. But Trump said at the
VA people were dying because people go, oh, we worked
to the contract. We can't be bothered to get out
of bed just because somebody is too sick. And people

(01:15:39):
were dying, and he said, you can't do this, You're bad.
That's bad for national security. No union at the v
no union at the Pentagon, no union at TSA, all
of these places where it really matters to be able
to quickly change guys.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
Everybody focus over here. Oh no, no, The union says,
we don't have to No. No, the love we have
the union.

Speaker 13 (01:16:01):
If they're going to get in the way of saving lives,
can't hepp and Trump shape. And the law says, the
president alone makes this decision, not the president in Congress,
not a judge, not a bureaucrat, not an expert. The
President decides. So that's ironclad. And we really need to
be saying, let's reduce that. When somebody leaves, let's not

(01:16:23):
be replacing all of them. Let's figure out which ones
need to be replaced. There is an awful lot of
money to be saved by reducing the size of the bureaucracy.
And we have two months to take advantage of that
and do some more a great deal of that now
and over time, we need to make the commitment to
slim down the government.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Every team wants to raise patent, the.

Speaker 13 (01:16:45):
Government gets stuck and and expensive, and they go, oh,
you know, that's a good argument for taking more money
from workers.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
No, it's not. No, it's an argument for a diet
for the federal government.

Speaker 4 (01:16:57):
Oh, we have to run and go over a nore question.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
You're the best at the us ATR Americans for tax Reform,
and I hope Russell Vaught, director of Management and Budget,
is going to do what needs to be done. But
Grover Norquist, you're a great American. And thanks for coming
on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Grover Bell Bell,
thank you for having me. God bless you. Let's continue
with more news coming up. You're home of the Reds
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anything like this in Israel. The massive rocket fire continuing
from Gaza. This is clearly a coordinated operation by Hamas
Islamic Jahad and other factions inside the strip. But you
can see here significant damage to the southern part of
this country. Sirens sounding in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv. Days
of war are ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:17:46):
He Hello, quiet, and I'm spokes I'm broadcasting.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
Rocky. About an hour ago, ninety year old, we had
in my first formal Coach Gordon in Vetterino legend you've
had me talk about him quite often.

Speaker 5 (01:18:04):
He is the legend to get on the.

Speaker 14 (01:18:05):
Team, Like he tells everything you know about sports, politics, life.

Speaker 5 (01:18:10):
Now look at him, now look at me.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
I thanked him because I needed that any formation of
my life. We'd have to take a test to get
on the field. How many feet is it from home
plate to second base in a direct line? Seg from
home plate to second base in a direct line? I
still know a long one twenty seven hundred twenty seven
feet three and three inches. You should know how many

(01:18:33):
inches and how many feet from rubbers the pitcher's rubber?
What's a single? What's a double? What's a fielder's choice?
When should you sacrifice bunt? How do you catch a baseball?

Speaker 5 (01:18:43):
Show me?

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
And then football? How wide is the field?

Speaker 4 (01:18:46):
Not how long?

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
How wide is the field? And what's the first down?
And there are six plays you must master?

Speaker 4 (01:18:52):
What are they?

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
He had the form he was like Bill Walsh before
Bill Walsh existed.

Speaker 14 (01:18:59):
That's great because I know from coaching youth like, don't
assume they know stuff because they likely don't.

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
You know, like how why it's a basketball court? How
long is it?

Speaker 5 (01:19:10):
He said?

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
Unless you know the rules, you can't play the game.
I still remember forty six crossbuck, twenty five crossbuck, then
naked reverse.

Speaker 4 (01:19:17):
We did all those.

Speaker 14 (01:19:18):
Things, see what I'm saying, and naked on the field
and naked not exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
What he said, and then he mentioned what my wife,
my cheerleader girlfriend.

Speaker 5 (01:19:26):
Boy, it was on.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
I don't want to say that. She was only fourteen
at the time, but I saw that little girl doing
those cheers and that little plaid skirt and that white blouse.

Speaker 14 (01:19:36):
That was it right there, right there.

Speaker 5 (01:19:39):
What do I gotta do?

Speaker 11 (01:19:40):
Give you that?

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
Right there?

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
The big man on campus. And I was quarterback, of course,
and picked of course.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
He lined up on in the first day of practice,
and I ever played football, never touched the football. Line
them up and said who thinks they can throw football?
And if by seven of us said whoever throws at
the farthest is the quarterback? I got up and throw
it four. You are, I said, you're the quarterback, Boom,
And then we taught me seven or eight plays. I
taught the backfield. Jack Monahan, the chief of police in
Emberly Village, and Bobby Lake, you remember all those guys

(01:20:10):
legends and how he named the Golden Bears. He also
took like Federal Savings alone to the national title with
Jeff Beckham and Ken Griffy was on the team, and
he was the coach that.

Speaker 14 (01:20:20):
He coached like a high level of summer league baseball team,
high level and then he went to his age or
coach there for many years after I left.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
Joe Hawk, those are the days of Menroo. He got
a hairy ass. He was a hair ass man, that's all.
He fell off the chair too, fell off the chair
right there, ninety years old.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
The chair.

Speaker 5 (01:20:40):
He fell off the chair.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
He's trying to sit in that chair on rollers, so
he sits in the chair. What about Joe Flacco? How
long will it take? What does he have to do?
Is he going to start? I need the information right now.

Speaker 14 (01:20:53):
I guess my initial thing is, you know, he's not
very mobile for an offensive line.

Speaker 11 (01:20:57):
That's a little that struggles a little bit.

Speaker 14 (01:21:00):
Not that was my first initial thought. For God's sakes,
He's got experience a lot of it, he's you know,
so I think that that's the ones in the job.
I think the Bengals said, well, we tried the backup route,
tried going with a guy that doesn't have experience.

Speaker 11 (01:21:18):
I mean one thing.

Speaker 14 (01:21:19):
If you do watch Flacco like as it did in
the first game the Bengals played, I thought, he knows
where to go with the ball again, because he's seen
every coverage, he's seen every blitz.

Speaker 11 (01:21:28):
He's not gonna be surprised. But all that that's important.

Speaker 14 (01:21:31):
You gotta know that you got to know where the
guys are and you got to have the quick decision
making him when the ball has got to go to him.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
Don't have hope at this a little bit of hope
for Green Bay.

Speaker 5 (01:21:39):
I think.

Speaker 14 (01:21:40):
Look, I think if you're a fan, you're at least saying, well,
the Bengals aren't throwing away this season, which you can't
because the Ravens are bad at one and four, the
Browns are are bad. The Steelers are not world beaters.
The Bengals are one of only what one team that's yeah,
the only team that's beating the Jaguars. Yeah, right, So
I mean a few things you look.

Speaker 11 (01:22:00):
At it and say, is as bad as it is
not totally out of this thing.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
And then when they played the Browns and Bengals played,
Joe threw for like two hundred and fifty some yards and.

Speaker 14 (01:22:10):
Yeah, I mean remember the second half of that game,
he was dissecting the Bengals defense.

Speaker 11 (01:22:15):
That guy, the guy dosn't miss that field goal?

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
So why would the Browns trade him for a bag
of ball?

Speaker 11 (01:22:19):
Because they had like seventeen quarterbacks from their team, and.

Speaker 4 (01:22:22):
They're in, they're becomes a backup, right Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:22:24):
And they're they're like a developmental kind of team. They're
not gonna win any more anyway. Right, they never go
in and never go anywhere. Yeah, so what the hell?
They're perpetually rebuilding.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
At least three times. We've been to the super Bowl
three times in fifty six years. Three times.

Speaker 5 (01:22:38):
It's not bad. It's not bad.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
It isn't I think that's bad. But maybe I'm wrong.
The Browns have never last time they won anything.

Speaker 5 (01:22:45):
Compared to the Browns, it's not bad.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
Nineteen sixty four. You might remember Frank Ryan.

Speaker 11 (01:22:49):
Just a couple of years after Gordon Vetterino Veterina.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
In fact, in fact, Paul Brown learned a lot from
Gordon Vetterino, and that's how he got the job here
and he became the owner and sold yeah, et cetera.
But think so, you have more hope with Flacco than
with Jake the Snake.

Speaker 14 (01:23:05):
I mean, look, I would they put Sean Clifford in there,
but I'm you know, he's he's from saying saying next,
he's not going to failure. But no, I think it
gives you hopes if you're a fan, if you're if
you're a fan, Elder is my new team. Elder, that's right,
Elder is my new team. Are on the leading the
bandwagon right now. There, those are my guys. Now that

(01:23:26):
you said that, Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, careful panthers, you
just said the kiss of death.

Speaker 11 (01:23:31):
Willie has jumped on your bandwagon.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
I told Doug Ramsey, look, I talked to Rocky Boyman,
who knows those guys that at h at Muller, and
they said they're going to kick your ass tonight. He said, really,
I said, you tell those Elder players get ready for
an ass kiss kicking. And guess what he did. That's
what he said. They came out of that locker room
ready to go. Love it, love it all right, sick,
give me some Willy.

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Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
I want to I have an answer, Rock. Is he
starting Sunday or not?

Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
I need to know.

Speaker 11 (01:24:17):
I think there's a chance he could.

Speaker 5 (01:24:19):
What do you say, seg yes? Please continue.

Speaker 9 (01:24:21):
We also want to thank Penn Station Willie for our
lunch today East Coast Subs. It's all about good taste
at Penn Station East Coast Subs.

Speaker 5 (01:24:30):
I love it.

Speaker 9 (01:24:31):
Let's see the big trade as we've been talking about.
Joe Flacco comes from the Browns to the Bengals and
a deal deal the Bengals also get a sixth round
draft pick, the Browns a fifth round pick, and the deal.

Speaker 4 (01:24:42):
Who gets the fifth and who gets the sixth.

Speaker 9 (01:24:44):
The Bengals get a sixth and the Browns get a fifth.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
So they traded him for a one round up or
one round down.

Speaker 5 (01:24:50):
That was it, right, that's not a big deal.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
We'll get a pick down a player, whether Bengals pick somebody.
They never picked good players anyway.

Speaker 9 (01:25:00):
College football twenty six ranks Cincinnata Aircast looks to continue
those winning way Saturday against UCF more tonight on the
Scott Satderfield showed live for the Ridge of Montgomery in
after Sports Talk right here on seven hundred wlw uh.
Let's see American League Division series coming up today Seattle
in Detroit. That series nodded one to one tonight the
Toronto and the Yanks. That Jay's leaded there too.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
Oh oh, Flaco is seeing it all and done at all.
It's got a super Bowl ring him credit for that.
Been to four different teams. I mean Baker Mayfield a
couple of years ago. I forget what team he was on.
He came in, was it with the Ram?

Speaker 11 (01:25:38):
With the Rams?

Speaker 4 (01:25:39):
Did okay?

Speaker 14 (01:25:40):
Came right in one week on the team and did well.
So let's say what can happen if you if you
have experience, it can happen.

Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
You'll be there tonight. You'll be here tonight.

Speaker 6 (01:25:50):
Right.

Speaker 11 (01:25:50):
Oh he's yeah, he's here now and.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
He's studying the playbooks. Percent of the playbook?

Speaker 5 (01:25:54):
Can he use?

Speaker 11 (01:25:57):
May get twenty of it in?

Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
Joe Burrow helped, Oh Placo, that's I never thought of
that one. That doesn't seem like they should, right, doesn't should,
but he probably will elm a little bit. Yeah, you
still got the money anyway, got the money, got the
ring from l s U's got everything.

Speaker 11 (01:26:14):
So Jake Brownie want not help you.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
Jake the snake Brownie will not helping him. How about
Clifford A big red dog from saying X, What about him?

Speaker 6 (01:26:21):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (01:26:22):
I mean moved up right because they got they got
rid of Mike White.

Speaker 5 (01:26:24):
They got rid of him.

Speaker 4 (01:26:26):
Yeah, these are tough times.

Speaker 11 (01:26:29):
Rock just us a war of attrition. Got to keep
wear him down, get to the top.

Speaker 5 (01:26:34):
Do you have any hope?

Speaker 11 (01:26:37):
A little bit?

Speaker 5 (01:26:37):
You didn't answer a little bit of hope?

Speaker 11 (01:26:41):
Again?

Speaker 14 (01:26:41):
I hope this is an injection of hope. Shows that
the franchise cares.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
And what is the player right now?

Speaker 5 (01:26:48):
In the locker room.

Speaker 4 (01:26:48):
You're in the locker room and here comes Joe Flecco
and you're a linebacker. What do you say, a Joe?

Speaker 5 (01:26:54):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (01:26:56):
Hey?

Speaker 11 (01:26:56):
I hope you're as good as they think you are.

Speaker 5 (01:26:58):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
Let's go all in Green Bay. They're like a fourteen
and a half point dog in the lines moving.

Speaker 14 (01:27:05):
I've I mean, hell, I've signed, you know, six weeks
into a season more, it's I signed with the Chiefs.
I worked out with the Chiefs on a Monday, signed
on a Tuesday, and started on a Sunday.

Speaker 4 (01:27:17):
But you know it's a much at Deer Park. Let's
go get the ball when you're the quarterback.

Speaker 11 (01:27:26):
A little different.

Speaker 14 (01:27:28):
Well, it's more of a it's a language thing. So
all the routes and the and the schemes are all
the same. It's just a matter of, well, hey, we
usould call it, you know, patriot, you guys call it whatever,
and you know we gotta whiddle that down.

Speaker 4 (01:27:43):
Go from there, see what happens. What's in the big
show today.

Speaker 14 (01:27:46):
Let's see, Uh, well we are gonna do a little
bit of one eighty and talk a little Joe flaccoho
join us. But right out of the gate we have
Susan Fisher, the executive director of America's River Roots, and
join us.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
Got a big.

Speaker 6 (01:28:00):
Here.

Speaker 5 (01:28:01):
Let's see.

Speaker 11 (01:28:02):
We got doctor Patrick Porter on at four o'clock.

Speaker 5 (01:28:05):
You got you ever get.

Speaker 14 (01:28:06):
Songs in your head and you're like, why the hell
is that song in my head? And I keeps singing
it over He's gonna tell us why. He's a brain expert,
really gonna tell us why I need that? That'll be interesting.
I got Joe Sturrego. It's bad to the bone in
my head, I can't get it out. Well, that's because
it's your freaking Maybe how do we get out of it?
Like well, maybe not use that as your intro music?

Speaker 11 (01:28:24):
Even doing that for? How long has that been your
intro song?

Speaker 5 (01:28:28):
Twenty years?

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
Bert Camphor? I had some jingle from Bert Camphor segnoes
him in the beginning, I'd say thirty thirty five years.
I don't know, introduced him once.

Speaker 5 (01:28:37):
He should change it up, change it up to what
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
From good anthem, national anthem, Philadelphia, freedom, God, bless America.

Speaker 5 (01:28:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:28:46):
Lee.

Speaker 4 (01:28:46):
How about Lee Greenwood Lee Green that's the one I like.

Speaker 3 (01:28:49):
Like that.

Speaker 11 (01:28:49):
Don't change your intro.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
It's classic. You got to stay with his classic, iconic.
It's unbelievable. I know we have hope we never had before.

Speaker 4 (01:28:57):
Now we have hope.

Speaker 5 (01:28:58):
Black over a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:28:59):
Wouldn't it be something? It took us to the to
the playoffs of the Super Bowl? Would you believe it?

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
Did?

Speaker 14 (01:29:07):
Did we get any defensive players? Di Did Miles Garrett
come with him? Any of those guys?

Speaker 5 (01:29:11):
Don't wonderful?

Speaker 11 (01:29:15):
We got both those guys.

Speaker 5 (01:29:17):
To trade Joe Burrow to throw him in a trunk.

Speaker 14 (01:29:19):
Would you trade Joe Burrow for Miles Garrett and Joe Flacco? No, No,
Miles Garrett, Joe Flacco and Quinn Shawn Judkins.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
No, I wouldn't trade Joe for anybody. How about Hunter
Green for Miles Garrett? What about that one?

Speaker 11 (01:29:34):
Now that I would do it?

Speaker 5 (01:29:35):
Right now? Trade Hunter Green right now? You would? I
would would.

Speaker 4 (01:29:43):
I'm not sure how that would work, but let's find
out the heck, you gotta think.

Speaker 11 (01:29:47):
Ask the question.

Speaker 5 (01:29:48):
I think outside the park, you sure do.

Speaker 11 (01:29:50):
How do you know if you don't ask, ask.

Speaker 4 (01:29:51):
Ask the guardians and talk talk to the Do you
know that Penny was ever gonna grow with?

Speaker 11 (01:29:55):
You had to ask?

Speaker 5 (01:29:56):
Asked her?

Speaker 4 (01:29:57):
At one a m.

Speaker 14 (01:29:57):
In the morning, I called her you her Dad's house
at one am? Why, oh boy, were you drunk? Now, Sanchez,
I was like fifteen years old. I want to take
a round and yeah, you know the rest.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
I went to the midnight mass at Saint Savier, got
home by it was after one o'clock and I was
looking for a date. So I looked in the book
under rick Asbrock and he lived at eighty three oh
one York and his phone number was five one three
seven nine one three nine nineth threes.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
And so.

Speaker 1 (01:30:27):
At one thirty am on December the twenty sixth I
called and he answered the phone. He said, who is this?

Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
I said, this is Bill Cunningham.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
Who are you? Well, I like to ask your daughter
on a date. And then I heard him say, Penny,
do you know of Bill Cunningham? She said yeah, I
think I do, and she dad said he's dressed marine.
You got thirty seconds and I said, hey, you want
to go on a date? She said sure.

Speaker 4 (01:30:54):
I said okay.

Speaker 11 (01:30:55):
He asked why you were calling at one thirty in
the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
Then, well, at two am I picked drew up the
next night and the reason of the reason I'm calling
so later, I just came home from midnight Mass.

Speaker 8 (01:31:06):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
We were midnight Max, I said, yes, a little Penny
in the blonde hair, standing there shirt.

Speaker 14 (01:31:13):
And then all of a sudden thoughts while you were
sitting there, sort of thoughts, I did.

Speaker 4 (01:31:21):
It worked out?

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
Well, that's all it matters. The rest is history. And
then she wouldn't have sex and we so we had
to get married when I was nineteen.

Speaker 5 (01:31:28):
That was terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:31:30):
Imagine that you don't have that problem today.

Speaker 5 (01:31:32):
That's not how it goes anymore. That's the way it went.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
And when I picked her up, she had a rosary
around her neck her mother put there, and so they
talked about a rally.

Speaker 5 (01:31:40):
Killer right there, getting that or anything else.

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
No bingo, give me out of the stuture today.

Speaker 5 (01:31:51):
Around her.

Speaker 4 (01:31:53):
Scapitolo. Oh my god, she had a prayer book with
her Willian of a rainy day year at the tri
State True Story.

Speaker 5 (01:32:00):
We leave you with the immortal.

Speaker 4 (01:32:01):
Words of the stew.

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
He's not saying that anymore, is he. Joe Flacco, Welcome
to the Queen City. Do better than Jake the Snake Browning.
He's related to Tom Browning. I'm sure you won't say that.
I think they forced Joe Fla to drive down.

Speaker 4 (01:32:22):
Yes, he drove him.

Speaker 11 (01:32:23):
That was like the cheerleaders pay Mileagh.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
That's part of the cheerleaders flying their own nickel to
Canson for the Super Bowl. That's anyway. Rockley, thank you,
thank you. Think about little Penny with a rosier around
her neck, trying not to say thank you. Seven hundred
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