December 11, 2025 • 18 mins
Willie talks with the grandson of legendary WLW broadcaster Bob Trumpy about his experience living in OTR and why he might consider moving away from the area.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Bill cunning in the Great American. Of course, I get
a hundred, sometimes thousands of emails a day from various sources.
That one stood out like a sore thumb. When I
hear the name of Trumpy and an email, it perks
me up and I pay attention. So a few days ago,
a young man named Jackson Trumpy sent me an email
(00:28):
about living in OTR and what happens in OTR and
he doesn't get a whole bunch of concern from the
city of Cincinnati because of what's happening in and around
Saint Francis Seraph Ministries on the Republic Street right off
Liberty in the north end of OTR. And as you
know as a listener, I've driven by that area frequently,
and I've pointed out on the air and off the
(00:50):
air that things don't look good there. That is not
kind to have homeless individuals living on the streets, is
not kind. To have people that are hungry in sias
doing things in garbage cans, is not right. To have
the mentally ill living on the streets. And so when
this email was sent to me by a young man,
twenty six year old Jackson Trumpy, I read it and
(01:12):
it goes on to say, I've been a resident of
Northern OTR, north of Finley Market for eight months now.
I chose to move downtown because I believe in the
fun urban atmosphere revitalization happening in OTR. I don't want
to be part of the future. However, I want to
bring a serious and ongoing public safety threat, in public
decency and quality of life to Cincinnatians in general, and
(01:34):
Jackson Trumpy. I can say this welcome for the first
time to the Bill Cunningham Show and Jackson. First of
all me I say that those of us who knew him,
those of us who worked with your grandpa Bob Trumpy,
have his memories with us often because he taught us
so much about radio. And as I said to you
off the air, that when he left this earth a
few months ago, he left a hole in broadcasting, also
(01:58):
a hole in your family. I would ask you, first
of all, what was your relationship with your grandpa Bob Trumpy,
the Great Number eighty four? And how much do you
miss him?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, thanks for having me on the show. It's an
honor to be here. Yeah, our whole family misses him
a whole lot. We were very close with him. We
lived not far away. He lived in Glendale, Ohio, so
we visited him quite frequently growing up. He used to
come to all my games. He would never miss a
(02:30):
sports game for myself or my sisters. And I really
appreciate the kind words that you and your colleague said
on seven hundred. We were all listening.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Well, thank you, Jackson. I spoke to him a few
months before his death. It was about a collateral matter.
And his exterior was hard as Chinese calculus, but inside
you the heart the size of the state of Texas.
And he created sports talk. He did Olympics, he did
the Masters, he did the Major League Baseball, football, basket boxing.
He was a great broadcaster, recognized he's in the NFL.
(03:05):
It got the Peter Roselle Award, for God's sakes, and
I followed him for something like ten to fifteen years
on this radio station. I learned radio more from him
than from anyone else. So whatever success I've had for
the past gosh forty three years, the foundation of that
success was listening and watching your grandpa, Bob Trumpy. Now
(03:27):
let's get onto your column. You talk about the core.
The problem is large daily congregations of persons around Saint Francis. Sarah,
explain why you sent me this and explain what you
have observed.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, well, before I start, I just want to say
that I do think Saint Francis Sarah, mynasteries is doing
a really good deed and helping those who are in
need and cheating hundreds of meals today approximately three point
fifty from what I was been told, to those who
are struggling with homelessness. It helps create a small measure
(04:04):
of stability in some of these people's lives who pretty
much face constant uncertainty. And I don't really think that
this is of fault of Saint Francis, but the whole
issue I think kind of stems around where this is
where their site is located here since living in OTR
(04:27):
and as you said, when you pass this area on
Republic Street, you can look north up Republic Street and
there are anywhere from fifty to one hundred people that
are just in that alley kind of set up. There
is just trash everywhere, and there's been a lot of
crime within this one block area. And I just think
(04:53):
with the amount of growth and economic development that the
city is trying to put in the Northern I believe
the location of this dude pantry is directly hindering the
progress of.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
That So Jackson Trumpet, you'd almost call it a failure
of compassion. And we need drug treatment facilities, we need
alcohol treatment facilities, we need insanity assistance people with mental
health problems. And it's not kind, it's not understanding. It's
not helpful to have people living on the streets, that
(05:31):
have people fornicating on the streets, to have people using
drugs on the streets, to have the negative impact on
residents like you and workers and visitors, and Northern OTR
is directly affected by the location of this homeless and
food kitchen. So your idea is to provide those services,
but not necessarily in an area in which there are
(05:51):
many businesses and people living, correct.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Right, I mean where the site is located in the
heart of revitalization zone that the city and like three
CDC are working to bring back to life. However, the
crime that goes on around this food pantry is uh,
(06:17):
it's it's pretty shocking to say the least. I can
recall at least three homicides this year, the latest being
on August sixth, twenty twenty five, when a woman was
struck in the head by bullet. I went onto the
city's website and I actually looked at the crime that's
for this singular block some of the things that I've seen.
(06:39):
They don't show you all the crimes, but they do list. Uh,
there's been six shootings, three of them have been fatal.
The other three people were hit and no one, no
one died. There's been a total of thirty five different
theft reports and for total offenses reported within that area
(07:00):
is over eighty and that's just within the singular block
of Republic Street and Liberty Street. So as you can
look up for yourself on the city website, there is
a ton of crime and law enforcement assets being sent
there all the time.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
And I would assume Jackson Trumpy that the police have
told me they're told not to interfere when crimes are
being committed because the city doesn't want it to be
in They went the statistics to prove one thing. If
you seen in uniform scout patrol cars, police in uniform
driving by and ignoring this while it's going.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
On, Yeah, I mean, I definitely have. I'm sure that
they're aware of what's going on down there.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Again, I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Really think it's St. Francis's fault that this is going on,
but I think what they're doing is really good, and
as human beings, we have a moral responsibility to help
those in need and help them get back on their
feet to live a more positive life. But I just
wanted to bring this kind of whole thing and shed
(08:19):
some light on it because I think myself and a
lot of other people that are living in the area
notice kind of what's going on there on a daily basis,
and I know that people do not feel comfortable walking
around that area just because of all the crime. There's
just widespread trash, people sleeping in doorways, it's I mean,
(08:42):
aggressive panhandling, open drug use. If you drive by there
and kind of look down that alley, it's not uncommon
that you'll see someone doing the typical zombie lean where
they're kind of just blumped over like they just did
something and it's not a good look. And for the
(09:04):
whole growth of the city and the whole initiative for
them to get economic growth into Northern OTR, it's just
directly hindering that process. Since I moved in in April.
There have been very nice renovated storefronts all around this area,
(09:24):
and I can't recall any of them being leased like
they are all still vacant. No, a lot of the
apartment buildings are. They have a lot of rooms left.
And I believe that this problem right here is directly
correlated to that.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah, your email to me talks about sexual intercourse in
the middle of Republic. Street officers and business owners have
told me that women and men engage in sexual acts
in public on a regular basis. It's simply what occurs.
Shot victims and also open air drug use, aggressive harassment,
(10:05):
widespread litter, and it's been going on for years and years.
I had on a business owner Privy Bar is a
few blocks over and they had seven people shot outside
the Privy Bar in the month of November. But we're
told by the mayor, who by the way, has left
town at this point in others that things are better.
(10:25):
Your email says to me, Jackson Trumpy, you emailed have
to have purerival the city manager, Jean Michelle Kearney, Cca
an Albi Victoria Parks. When you get a hold of
them for this widespread and you talk about crimes being
committed every day, there's dozens and dozens or more crimes
being committed, but they don't go on the on the
(10:47):
on the blotder because no one's arrested. The police just
ignore the crime. Therefore, crime is down by some categories.
But when you contact the city officials as the grandson
of Bob Trumpy, what respond once do you get of any?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I mean, they basically just acknowledged my concern. They told
me that the ministry is a longstanding, privately owned nonprofit
that's been there since the seventies. It is privately owned
and they cannot legally force the organization to do anything.
They told me that they would reach out to Paint
(11:24):
Transis and address the illegal behavior and contacts and tell
them to contact poliefs when necessary. They also told me
that my email had been forwarded to the CPD District
one neighborhood Liaison sergeant and once he got that email,
he would respond to me with information on how they're
(11:45):
going to make the situation better and resolve it. I
have not heard anything, which is kind of why I
wanted to reach out to you, because I just think
this issue needs to be addressed, and as a young
person living downtown in OTR. I feel like we need
(12:05):
our voices to be heard as well.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
One might ask why did you agree to move? Why
did you go to OTR, Because I assume you know
ahead of time, before you moved there, about seven months ago,
that what you'd be facing, what was your motivation and
putting yourself in that environment, then complaining about it, what's
your motivation and going there in the first place.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Well, I have a decent amount of friends that live downtown.
It's a really fun it's a really fun area. You
have all the action there. You have the Bangles, the Reds,
the FCC. There is a lot of development going on downtown.
I also work in Kentucky, so I had to move
somewhere that I could be closer to work. My previous
(12:50):
drive to work was almost an hour there and back
every day. But you can ride the street car to
get anywhere. There's a ton of really good restaurants and
local festivals and street fairs and many other activities to do,
and it's just a fun environment. However, I think that
(13:13):
we have this problem just like all other cities do.
I just think that we need to be better out
of dressing it.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
A friend of mine who works with Saint Francis, Serah
said they used to open the doors of the church
to allow people inside the church itself. The Franciscans run it,
but it got so bad inside the church, those who
run the ministry Saint Francis said, we can't do this anymore.
There was a urination on floors, on pews, there were
sexual acts committed inside the church itself, that there were
(13:45):
drug use inside the church. It got so bad after
months and months and months of putting up with it,
they locked the doors. While it's true the city can't
control what happens inside of a church. It can control
what happens on Republic, it can't control what happens on Liberty.
That's their direct responsibility. Saint Francis does not control Republic Street,
(14:07):
and they have these activities from fifty to one hundred
people happening daily. Is a city problem that the county's
trying to address. But it's the city police that are
being told don't do anything, because the cops say, if
we start arresting people in and around Saint Francis, Sarah
and OTR, it doesn't do any good because they arrest
(14:29):
them put them in the jail. They're released immediately, they
don't show up for court, then a warrants issued to
cape Is for their arrest. Then they're arrested, sent back
to the jail. Then you go to judge and the
judges say, they've been arrested two hundred times. Nothing we
can do. Put them back on the street. It used
to be and the good old days. You might recall
we had Longview State Mental Hospital. In fact, when I
(14:51):
was in the Attorney General's office, i represented the state
to put people with profound mental difficulties or drug or
alcoholic use in law, you state mental hospital until they
dried out or until they got their lives together. There
was about seven hundred and fifty people a long View
State Mental Hospital. That's where those persons were in the
nineteen forties, fifties, sixties, and seventies. That's the solution is
(15:14):
still arresting him. The cops will tell you makes no difference.
What difference They go back to Republic Street and keep
using drugs. You've got to put them in an environment
where they can't leave, in which they have to get better,
and if they don't get better, then they don't leave.
Does that make sense to you? Oh?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, I totally agree with what you said. There's a
lot of stuff that I see downtown that you know,
probably people in other cities always see as well, but
when you see it in person through itself, it's pretty
shocking the first time. But yeah, Saint Francis, I know
they can't control the individuals that are outside, even I
(15:59):
know they were on many of their services and they
do a great deed, And I'm not suggesting that we
take that away in any form or kind of like
kick them out, But I just there's too much that
goes on in this area, in the center of this
redevelopment district, and there's a lot that the city is
trying to do, but they're but they're really just hindering
(16:22):
themselves with this site being in the center of Northern
OTR and just having this this constant like fifty to
one hundred plus people roaming around constantly, and you know,
just making some people feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I bet have you thought about Jackson Trumpy? Have you
thought about leaving and saying I can't do it anymore?
Are you willing to stay with it for a little
bit longer?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
No, I'm I'm not considering leaving. I'm not to that
point yet, But I mean, who knows, we're all be
in a year, but no, I am not to that
point yet.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
All right, Jackson Trumpy, once again, your father, your grandfather,
is held in high esteem, and may his memory bring
you comfort. And Jackson Trump, I'm glad you got a
hold of me. I'm glad I think your grandpa would
be happy with a kind of grandson that your mom
and dad and he helped develop. And whenever you want
to have further contact with the big One, you get
a hold of me, and I'll do my best to
(17:26):
get the message out. And the adults have got to
take adult responsibilities for these kinds of things. I mean,
maybe not pay criminals eight point two million dollars. Maybe
it's better to use that money to reinstitute a in
house facility that you can't leave until you're better, and
if you don't get better, you can't leave. A few
hundred cannot kill the life of one, hundreds of thousands
(17:47):
of people. Jackson Trumpy, once again, thanks for coming on
the Bill Cunningham Show, and Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Thank you, Jackson, thank you, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
God bless America. Let's continue with more of it. The
city will spend eight point two million dollars paying criminal,
serious money, but they won't solve the problems that their
policies have created. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred ww
Bill cunning in the Great American. Of course, I get
a hundred, sometimes thousands of emails a day from various sources.
That one stood out like a sore thumb. When I
hear the name of Trumpy and an email, it perks
me up and I pay attention. So a few days ago,
a young man named Jackson Trumpy sent me an email
(00:28):
about living in OTR and what happens in OTR and
he doesn't get a whole bunch of concern from the
city of Cincinnati because of what's happening in and around
Saint Francis Seraph Ministries on the Republic Street right off
Liberty in the north end of OTR. And as you
know as a listener, I've driven by that area frequently,
and I've pointed out on the air and off the
(00:50):
air that things don't look good there. That is not
kind to have homeless individuals living on the streets, is
not kind. To have people that are hungry in sias
doing things in garbage cans, is not right. To have
the mentally ill living on the streets. And so when
this email was sent to me by a young man,
twenty six year old Jackson Trumpy, I read it and
(01:12):
it goes on to say, I've been a resident of
Northern OTR, north of Finley Market for eight months now.
I chose to move downtown because I believe in the
fun urban atmosphere revitalization happening in OTR. I don't want
to be part of the future. However, I want to
bring a serious and ongoing public safety threat, in public
decency and quality of life to Cincinnatians in general, and
(01:34):
Jackson Trumpy. I can say this welcome for the first
time to the Bill Cunningham Show and Jackson. First of
all me I say that those of us who knew him,
those of us who worked with your grandpa Bob Trumpy,
have his memories with us often because he taught us
so much about radio. And as I said to you
off the air, that when he left this earth a
few months ago, he left a hole in broadcasting, also
(01:58):
a hole in your family. I would ask you, first
of all, what was your relationship with your grandpa Bob Trumpy,
the Great Number eighty four? And how much do you
miss him?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, thanks for having me on the show. It's an
honor to be here. Yeah, our whole family misses him
a whole lot. We were very close with him. We
lived not far away. He lived in Glendale, Ohio, so
we visited him quite frequently growing up. He used to
come to all my games. He would never miss a
(02:30):
sports game for myself or my sisters. And I really
appreciate the kind words that you and your colleague said
on seven hundred. We were all listening.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Well, thank you, Jackson. I spoke to him a few
months before his death. It was about a collateral matter.
And his exterior was hard as Chinese calculus, but inside
you the heart the size of the state of Texas.
And he created sports talk. He did Olympics, he did
the Masters, he did the Major League Baseball, football, basket boxing.
He was a great broadcaster, recognized he's in the NFL.
(03:05):
It got the Peter Roselle Award, for God's sakes, and
I followed him for something like ten to fifteen years
on this radio station. I learned radio more from him
than from anyone else. So whatever success I've had for
the past gosh forty three years, the foundation of that
success was listening and watching your grandpa, Bob Trumpy. Now
(03:27):
let's get onto your column. You talk about the core.
The problem is large daily congregations of persons around Saint Francis. Sarah,
explain why you sent me this and explain what you
have observed.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, well, before I start, I just want to say
that I do think Saint Francis Sarah, mynasteries is doing
a really good deed and helping those who are in
need and cheating hundreds of meals today approximately three point
fifty from what I was been told, to those who
are struggling with homelessness. It helps create a small measure
(04:04):
of stability in some of these people's lives who pretty
much face constant uncertainty. And I don't really think that
this is of fault of Saint Francis, but the whole
issue I think kind of stems around where this is
where their site is located here since living in OTR
(04:27):
and as you said, when you pass this area on
Republic Street, you can look north up Republic Street and
there are anywhere from fifty to one hundred people that
are just in that alley kind of set up. There
is just trash everywhere, and there's been a lot of
crime within this one block area. And I just think
(04:53):
with the amount of growth and economic development that the
city is trying to put in the Northern I believe
the location of this dude pantry is directly hindering the
progress of.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
That So Jackson Trumpet, you'd almost call it a failure
of compassion. And we need drug treatment facilities, we need
alcohol treatment facilities, we need insanity assistance people with mental
health problems. And it's not kind, it's not understanding. It's
not helpful to have people living on the streets, that
(05:31):
have people fornicating on the streets, to have people using
drugs on the streets, to have the negative impact on
residents like you and workers and visitors, and Northern OTR
is directly affected by the location of this homeless and
food kitchen. So your idea is to provide those services,
but not necessarily in an area in which there are
(05:51):
many businesses and people living, correct.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Right, I mean where the site is located in the
heart of revitalization zone that the city and like three
CDC are working to bring back to life. However, the
crime that goes on around this food pantry is uh,
(06:17):
it's it's pretty shocking to say the least. I can
recall at least three homicides this year, the latest being
on August sixth, twenty twenty five, when a woman was
struck in the head by bullet. I went onto the
city's website and I actually looked at the crime that's
for this singular block some of the things that I've seen.
(06:39):
They don't show you all the crimes, but they do list. Uh,
there's been six shootings, three of them have been fatal.
The other three people were hit and no one, no
one died. There's been a total of thirty five different
theft reports and for total offenses reported within that area
(07:00):
is over eighty and that's just within the singular block
of Republic Street and Liberty Street. So as you can
look up for yourself on the city website, there is
a ton of crime and law enforcement assets being sent
there all the time.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
And I would assume Jackson Trumpy that the police have
told me they're told not to interfere when crimes are
being committed because the city doesn't want it to be
in They went the statistics to prove one thing. If
you seen in uniform scout patrol cars, police in uniform
driving by and ignoring this while it's going.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
On, Yeah, I mean, I definitely have. I'm sure that
they're aware of what's going on down there.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Again, I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Really think it's St. Francis's fault that this is going on,
but I think what they're doing is really good, and
as human beings, we have a moral responsibility to help
those in need and help them get back on their
feet to live a more positive life. But I just
wanted to bring this kind of whole thing and shed
(08:19):
some light on it because I think myself and a
lot of other people that are living in the area
notice kind of what's going on there on a daily basis,
and I know that people do not feel comfortable walking
around that area just because of all the crime. There's
just widespread trash, people sleeping in doorways, it's I mean,
(08:42):
aggressive panhandling, open drug use. If you drive by there
and kind of look down that alley, it's not uncommon
that you'll see someone doing the typical zombie lean where
they're kind of just blumped over like they just did
something and it's not a good look. And for the
(09:04):
whole growth of the city and the whole initiative for
them to get economic growth into Northern OTR, it's just
directly hindering that process. Since I moved in in April.
There have been very nice renovated storefronts all around this area,
(09:24):
and I can't recall any of them being leased like
they are all still vacant. No, a lot of the
apartment buildings are. They have a lot of rooms left.
And I believe that this problem right here is directly
correlated to that.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah, your email to me talks about sexual intercourse in
the middle of Republic. Street officers and business owners have
told me that women and men engage in sexual acts
in public on a regular basis. It's simply what occurs.
Shot victims and also open air drug use, aggressive harassment,
(10:05):
widespread litter, and it's been going on for years and years.
I had on a business owner Privy Bar is a
few blocks over and they had seven people shot outside
the Privy Bar in the month of November. But we're
told by the mayor, who by the way, has left
town at this point in others that things are better.
(10:25):
Your email says to me, Jackson Trumpy, you emailed have
to have purerival the city manager, Jean Michelle Kearney, Cca
an Albi Victoria Parks. When you get a hold of
them for this widespread and you talk about crimes being
committed every day, there's dozens and dozens or more crimes
being committed, but they don't go on the on the
(10:47):
on the blotder because no one's arrested. The police just
ignore the crime. Therefore, crime is down by some categories.
But when you contact the city officials as the grandson
of Bob Trumpy, what respond once do you get of any?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I mean, they basically just acknowledged my concern. They told
me that the ministry is a longstanding, privately owned nonprofit
that's been there since the seventies. It is privately owned
and they cannot legally force the organization to do anything.
They told me that they would reach out to Paint
(11:24):
Transis and address the illegal behavior and contacts and tell
them to contact poliefs when necessary. They also told me
that my email had been forwarded to the CPD District
one neighborhood Liaison sergeant and once he got that email,
he would respond to me with information on how they're
(11:45):
going to make the situation better and resolve it. I
have not heard anything, which is kind of why I
wanted to reach out to you, because I just think
this issue needs to be addressed, and as a young
person living downtown in OTR. I feel like we need
(12:05):
our voices to be heard as well.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
One might ask why did you agree to move? Why
did you go to OTR, Because I assume you know
ahead of time, before you moved there, about seven months ago,
that what you'd be facing, what was your motivation and
putting yourself in that environment, then complaining about it, what's
your motivation and going there in the first place.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Well, I have a decent amount of friends that live downtown.
It's a really fun it's a really fun area. You
have all the action there. You have the Bangles, the Reds,
the FCC. There is a lot of development going on downtown.
I also work in Kentucky, so I had to move
somewhere that I could be closer to work. My previous
(12:50):
drive to work was almost an hour there and back
every day. But you can ride the street car to
get anywhere. There's a ton of really good restaurants and
local festivals and street fairs and many other activities to do,
and it's just a fun environment. However, I think that
(13:13):
we have this problem just like all other cities do.
I just think that we need to be better out
of dressing it.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
A friend of mine who works with Saint Francis, Serah
said they used to open the doors of the church
to allow people inside the church itself. The Franciscans run it,
but it got so bad inside the church, those who
run the ministry Saint Francis said, we can't do this anymore.
There was a urination on floors, on pews, there were
sexual acts committed inside the church itself, that there were
(13:45):
drug use inside the church. It got so bad after
months and months and months of putting up with it,
they locked the doors. While it's true the city can't
control what happens inside of a church. It can control
what happens on Republic, it can't control what happens on Liberty.
That's their direct responsibility. Saint Francis does not control Republic Street,
(14:07):
and they have these activities from fifty to one hundred
people happening daily. Is a city problem that the county's
trying to address. But it's the city police that are
being told don't do anything, because the cops say, if
we start arresting people in and around Saint Francis, Sarah
and OTR, it doesn't do any good because they arrest
(14:29):
them put them in the jail. They're released immediately, they
don't show up for court, then a warrants issued to
cape Is for their arrest. Then they're arrested, sent back
to the jail. Then you go to judge and the
judges say, they've been arrested two hundred times. Nothing we
can do. Put them back on the street. It used
to be and the good old days. You might recall
we had Longview State Mental Hospital. In fact, when I
(14:51):
was in the Attorney General's office, i represented the state
to put people with profound mental difficulties or drug or
alcoholic use in law, you state mental hospital until they
dried out or until they got their lives together. There
was about seven hundred and fifty people a long View
State Mental Hospital. That's where those persons were in the
nineteen forties, fifties, sixties, and seventies. That's the solution is
(15:14):
still arresting him. The cops will tell you makes no difference.
What difference They go back to Republic Street and keep
using drugs. You've got to put them in an environment
where they can't leave, in which they have to get better,
and if they don't get better, then they don't leave.
Does that make sense to you? Oh?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, I totally agree with what you said. There's a
lot of stuff that I see downtown that you know,
probably people in other cities always see as well, but
when you see it in person through itself, it's pretty
shocking the first time. But yeah, Saint Francis, I know
they can't control the individuals that are outside, even I
(15:59):
know they were on many of their services and they
do a great deed, And I'm not suggesting that we
take that away in any form or kind of like
kick them out, But I just there's too much that
goes on in this area, in the center of this
redevelopment district, and there's a lot that the city is
trying to do, but they're but they're really just hindering
(16:22):
themselves with this site being in the center of Northern
OTR and just having this this constant like fifty to
one hundred plus people roaming around constantly, and you know,
just making some people feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I bet have you thought about Jackson Trumpy? Have you
thought about leaving and saying I can't do it anymore?
Are you willing to stay with it for a little
bit longer?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
No, I'm I'm not considering leaving. I'm not to that
point yet, But I mean, who knows, we're all be
in a year, but no, I am not to that
point yet.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
All right, Jackson Trumpy, once again, your father, your grandfather,
is held in high esteem, and may his memory bring
you comfort. And Jackson Trump, I'm glad you got a
hold of me. I'm glad I think your grandpa would
be happy with a kind of grandson that your mom
and dad and he helped develop. And whenever you want
to have further contact with the big One, you get
a hold of me, and I'll do my best to
(17:26):
get the message out. And the adults have got to
take adult responsibilities for these kinds of things. I mean,
maybe not pay criminals eight point two million dollars. Maybe
it's better to use that money to reinstitute a in
house facility that you can't leave until you're better, and
if you don't get better, you can't leave. A few
hundred cannot kill the life of one, hundreds of thousands
(17:47):
of people. Jackson Trumpy, once again, thanks for coming on
the Bill Cunningham Show, and Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Thank you, Jackson, thank you, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
God bless America. Let's continue with more of it. The
city will spend eight point two million dollars paying criminal,
serious money, but they won't solve the problems that their
policies have created. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred ww
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