12-15-25 Bill Cunningham Show

Willie breaks down the embarrassing loss to the Ravens with Mo Egger. Also attorney Steve Goodin dissects the latest in the Elwood Jones case. Finally Willie talks with Bengal faithful about having to shovel out their own seats.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
By Billy cunning in the Great America.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome this Monday, after doing the Tri State bridget as
it is, by Wednesday is going to be rain and
about forty five or fifty degrees get through tonight tomorrow
thing's going to be okay and things going to be
better except maybe on the field on the gridiron, except
here and there and everywhere. Mo Hagar, welcome again to
the Bill Cunningham Show.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
And so Mo like you.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I think you, Tony Pike, and el Mo and Lance
cover the Bengals better than the national ESPN Fox Sports crew,
would you agree or not?

Speaker 3 (00:40):
I think we opine on the Bengals with a better
perspective than they do around the country.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Now, when I monitor those events this morning, as I
do all the time, I have about seven TV sets
in my home. I monitor them all. I have all
the websites looking up, looking here. I'm being told by
the experts that the death knell of Joe Burrow's career
happened began in Buffalo, in which they were what ten
points up with about nine minutes to go, and then
lost easily because of Joe Burrow's interception for Tea for

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a pick six and then the next one, and then
what happened yesterday, according to the experts, confirmed at all
that somehow Joe Burrow is done, He's been fully bengalized,
and Zach Shule has no idea what he's doing. And
the Bengals is the worst sports organization in the world.
I guess there's some soccer team in Holland that may
be worse than the Bengals, but the experts say none

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of that is true. I'm going to ask you some
big questions later on MO about the Bengals.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Let's go before I get to the big questions, because
they're big questions. They're going to set you back in
your chair. Tell me what the hell happened yesterday at
Pey Course Stadium with Joe Burrow and the Bengals.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
The Ravens came to play.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
At the end, I'm listening to Ravens players say we
just beat the s out of them and another player
for shout and they didn't want to play us.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
They don't want to play us.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
So tell the American people, the long suffering Bengals fans
who pay a quarter of a billion dollars in new
money to the Bengals whether the Bengals are in free
fall or it is just simply a mistake that will
get better maybe next week playing in Miami, give me
a live update.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Let's talk. Let's talk about yesterday. Yesterday, Please do talk
about it. I've heard people say the Bengals quit yesterday.
I don't think that's accurate, because in order to quit something,
you have to have started. From the opening kickoff. That
team looked like it didn't want to be there. That
team looked like whether it was because of the cold,
the opponent, the lack of high end stakes, other stuff

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swirling around the team, whatever it is, that team yesterday,
from the quarterback down looked completely checked out. In the
second half, I saw Joe Burrow go out of bounds
on a third down play instead of trying for the
first down. Now you might say, well, he wouldn't have
gotten it. Don't want Joe to play hero ball. The
Joe Burrow that I know and love, the Joe Burrow
who has given me a ton of highs as a

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fan of this foot team, decided we're gonna punt the
football away instead of me trying to make a play.
In the second half of that game, Willie Bengals at
one point yesterday ran twenty seven consecutive offensive plays, twenty
seven consecutive offensive plays the Ravens. The Ravens didn't take
their first offensive snap in the fourth quarter until there

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were two minutes and three seconds remaining. Now, there was
a pick six in the middle of all that. But
what did you see when you watch those twenty seven
plays unfold? You saw a team checked out. You saw
a team that gave up. You saw a team that
played with no urgency. You saw a team that was
not remotely interested in a last gasp effort to not
only win the game but save their season. They were huddling,

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they were taking all sorts of time between plays. They
were dinking and dunking the ball down the field, they
were calling running plays. They were waving the white flag.
Joe Burrow was the quarterback of an offense yesterday that
waved the white flag. That to me, the big takeaway
from yesterday is that that team yesterday, and I don't

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know how you could say otherwise, that looked and felt
like a team that didn't want to be there in
a game that they absolutely had to win to even
maintain a shred of hope.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
To make the postseason.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
What that says about Joe Burrow, What that says about
Zach Taylor, What that says about the overall state of
the organization, whatever it says, None of it's any good.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Who had a worst day?

Speaker 2 (04:24):
The Bengals on the field are the Bengals management.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Off the field?

Speaker 2 (04:29):
I got other questions coming, though, but I'm thinking long
suffering Bengals fans paying tens of thousands of dollars to
sit on several bags of home city ice for hours
to watch that boose egg?

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Who did Who did the worst job? The Bengals on
the field are the Bengals off the field?

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Well, you might argue you both did the bare minimum.
Let's talk about the seats yesterday at the stadium. You know,
as a season ticket holder, I did not go yesterday.
The weather had nothing to do with it. The team
performance had nothing to do with it. My daughter had
a basketball game. I chose to watch her play instead
of go to the Bengals game. But I love going
to Bengals games. The Bengals, I think yesterday did the
minimum that the NFL expects teams to do in their snow.

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I think they satisfied their baseline requirement when it comes
to snow removal and handling of the snow. But you
have a choice. You have a choice if you run
a business, you have a choice. If you work at
a business, you have a choice sometimes with your circle
of family and friends, to do the bare minimum or
go above and beyond. The Bengals had a choice yesterday

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to do what was required or go above and beyond
to make your guests feel welcome and comfortable. Guests that
paid good money and sat through arctic temperatures to watch
what has been this season for the most part, and
inferior product.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
They had a choice.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
They could choose to do the bare minimum, and I
think they did, or they could choose to go above
and beyond to make their guests as comfortable as possible
in very uncomfortable circumstances.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
So if someone's heading to their seats, they got six
inches of ice and snow. The Bengals email last night
said they could have called an usher and just shoot
away the ice and just pull it off. Where do
you put the ice? The seat in front of you,
the seat to your left, your right. The Bengals fans
had no option but to sit there acting like they
were in an igloo somewhere north of Nantucket. Can you

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know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Mo?

Speaker 1 (06:24):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
I do again, what they did probably satisfies the NFL's
requirement as it relates to hndling snow. I think if
you run a business, if you have guests, if you
have customers, you can do everything you can to ensure
their comfort, or you can't, and the Bengals chose not to.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Now.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
I will also say this, I think had the Bengals
taken the field yesterday with a record of ten and
three instead of four and nine, nobody would be talking
about snow. But in Philadelphia yesterday the Eagles played a game.
There was lots of snow in the seats, and I
saw pictures of the seats for the most part having
been that didn't happen yesterday at the venue originally known

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as Paul Brown Stadium. And again, if you want to say, well,
you know, they did what they were supposed to do,
that's fine, And maybe you don't think they deserve criticism
for not going above and beyond. If it's me, I
want my guests, my customers who have paid me very
very very hard earned money to sit in the cold.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
I would go out of my way.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
I would ensure that my organization went out of its
way to ensure that our guests were as comfortable as possible.
And for me, that would have would have involved having
my customers not wipe the snow off their seats. But again,
I do think this, if the Bengals were ten and three,
nobody would care. Now, So there's that. Then there is
the performance on the field. The performance on the field yesterday,

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I think you were being fair if you thought, you
know what, this is going to be a desperate team,
a team that is heating the call of its quarterback
who is clearly not happy and clearly not having a
whole lot of fun right now. It's a team that
has faint playoff hopes, but still playoff hopes. And now
what if you beat the Baltimore Ravens, maybe the door
cracks open just a little bit. They had just beaten
this team seventeen days prior. They are playing at home,

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They do have Joe Burrow, They came into the game
at least offensively, at least a little healthy. What I
saw yesterday was not an urgent team. It was not
a desperate team. It was a team that can't wait
for the season to end. That doesn't reflect poorly on
the coach, doesn't reflect it doesn't reflect well on the players,
and it doesn't reflect well on really anybody. Haven't had
anything to do with the organization. All right, mo I

(08:29):
want to ask you a big question. Are you prepared?
I'm ready?

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Which entity or person is in the worst shape?

Speaker 4 (08:38):
We go?

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Number one?

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Maybe Miller time and maybe Zach Miller is not the best.
Shall we say it is Wes Miller. He's related to
Wes Miller and Wes Miller and East Miller. They're not
the best. But Bearcout basketball team is not shall we say,
in great shape? Would you agree Bearcout basket struggling? Yes,

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that's one. Number two is Zach Taylor, also known as
Zach Shuler, who is calling the plays, responsible for game preparation.
I'm responsible for the formation directly or indirectly with Duke
Tobin for the players selected. Number three is Sharon Moore,
the ex coach of Michigan who's looking at a hard

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time daddy, having asked the services of OnlyFans model during
a halftime when I think during the High Stay game
he had his mind somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
So we have, on.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
One hand, we have Wes Miller, Bearcut Basketball, then we
got Zach Shuler aka Zach Taylor. Then we have Sharon
Moore and the Michigan situation. Where would you like to
be in charge to handle Wes Miller, Zach Shuler or
Sharon Moore situation?

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Where would you like to be in charge?

Speaker 3 (09:51):
I would not like to be in charge of the
Sharon Moore situation because that involves criminal charges and lots
of really icky.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Stuff that have not so much much to do with football.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Sharon Moore that that situation, you know, there's a lot
of sadness to that inechegable. His children and wife I
don't think signed up for what he is dragging them through,
and so I view that through a lens of sadness,
because this is somebody who has abandoned the responsibility he
had to his family and others, you know, And I

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feel for those players who play for him. I feel
for players who have committed to play for the University
of Michigan who are going to be the collateral damage
in something that they're not at fault.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
For football, get the death penalty.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
No, Wes Miller is in a world of trouble right now.
His team has lost four games. They have a very
difficult game against Clemson on Sunday in South Carolina, and
then they play in the Big Twelve. And I don't
know if folks don't follow college basketball very closely, there
are six or seven Big Twelve teams that have NBA

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dudes up and down their roster. I watched the Arizona
Wildcats play on Saturday night. That is the best performance
I've seen by any team this season. They ran Alabama
off the floor in a game played in the state
of Alabama. Bearcats play them on January the twenty first.
I think even Wes would be the first to tell
you year five, the expectation was make the NCAA tournament,

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and unfortunately, it is really hard to envision Cincinnati on
Selection Sunday having a chance to have its name called.
And if it's not, I think Wes would tell you
that the expectation for most is that there's going to
be a coaching change. I think was Zach Taylor the
one thing And I've said this to you for six
and a half years. I've never watched a Zach Taylor

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team and thought the players have quit or the players
aren't prepared. Now he's had. You know, you might say
play calling issues at times. That doesn't bother me so much.
Maybe there have been personnel issues that he's not responsible for.
That's okay. But at the end of the day, whether
the Bengals have been good or whether they've been not good,
when Zach Taylor has been the coach, I've always thought, boy,
the team plays for him, the team plays hard. Effort's

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not an issue here. Preparation really isn't an issue here.
Yesterday I saw a team that was not prepared. I
saw a team that's effort was compromised. I saw a
team that did not want to be there, and that
reflects very poorly on the coach. I am more than
willing and have for six and a half years, more
than willing to give Zach Taylor credit for things then

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I don't think others do. I think getting Joe Flacco
up to speed this year is a credit to Zach Taylor.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
They lost all the games, but you know they played hard.
You know he got Joe Flack already.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
I think I think the Bengals winning playoff games when
they had the game plan behind an awful offensive line
to a large degree, reflects.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Really good coaching.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
I think Zach Taylor getting Jake Browning ready to play
and win two years ago but he had never played before.
Credit to Zach Taylor. I think Zach Taylor getting Joe
Burrow ready to play his first NFL game without a
preseason with the COVID training camp. Credit to Zach Taylor.
So I've never been one of these folks that just
gratuitously wells away at Zach Taylor whenever anything goes wrong

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with the Cincinnati Bengals. But against Pittsburgh a few weeks ago,
many accused players on the defensive quitting.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Okay, maybe that was a one off.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yesterday I saw a team that didn't quit because it
never started. It didn't want to be there. It looked
checked out mentally and physically. That reflects very poorly on
the head coach. And I think you're being completely reasonable
if you wonder if that same look is going to
be evident over these last three games, and if it is,
then I think you have to very very very seriously

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wonder whether or not you can move forward with this
head coach.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, about a minute remaining mo we have to get
back to the commercials. But your experts in ESPN said
this morning, I don't know if this is Zach. You
might know that Joe Burrow's contract is not guaranteed next year.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
And I'm looking at that.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
I thought it was five years due seventy five million,
and I'm looking at this as a cap hit like
sixty five million, and it says zero guaranteed for next year.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Is that true?

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Joe Burrow has signed a deal five years, two hundred
and seventy five mil. Two hundred and nineteen million of
it is guaranteed.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Two ninety and let's call it two twenty two nineteen
two hundred.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
So the overwhelming majority of that money is is guaranteed.
Joe Burrow will be the quarterback of the Bengals next year.
And I saw your tweet and I took you to
test for this because Joe had his comments the other day, right,
And so this is this is what bothers me about
some of the reaction to Joe Burrow and what he said.
And look, let's be honest. He said what he said,

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and then he played arguably his worst game ever. Didn't
pick a very good Sunday to play his worst game. Ever,
but one of the common although I think misdirected complaints
about athletes is they don't care enough about winning because
of the money they make. Here, you have a guy,
say what you want about him. Winning matters to him,
The success matters to him, His reputation as a quarterback

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matters to him, and we tell him the shut up,
be happy with the money you're making.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
You can't have it both ways.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
You can't tell these guys, well, you don't care enough
about winning because.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
You're you're overpaid.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
And then when they care so much about winning that
it's affecting them publicly, you can't say, shut up, you're
making too much money to care about winning.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
That well, which one do we want it?

Speaker 2 (15:17):
I don't want to answer that question, but we'll ask
you one more question, please. According to ESPN, Joe Burrow
is more likely to become Andrew Luck or Carson Palmer.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Which is it. I'll frame it this way. Since you
won't answer my question, I want to answer that question.
What is more likely to happen right now?

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Joe Burrow wins a Super Bowl over the next four
years while he's under contract with the Bengals, or he
chooses to do what Carson Palmer did, or he chooses
to do what Andrew Luck did. Now, you might say,
odds are he's not going to do what Carson did.
That's fair. Yep, odds are he's not going to do
what Andrew Luck did.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
That's fair.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
But our odds are that Joe Burrow's gonna win a
super Bowl here over the next four years.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Oh feels like they're very far away from that.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
To me, that's the question because I do not lead
to the conclusion that he's gonna do what Carson did.
And by the way, what Carson did I was okay with.
I was in the minority. Then fourteen years later, I'm
in the minority now. Andrew Luck made a deeply personal
decision because of the accumulation of injuries. I don't gather
that Joe Burrow just rushed his ass back to come
back and play for this team that was going nowhere.

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So I'm not led to believe that he's gonna do
what Andrew Luck did. But okay, the only way that
Joe Burrow era is deemed a success is if they
win a championship, which at the end of the twenty
to twenty one season, I think a lot of his
thought was maybe not an inevitability, but at least there
a very very strong possibility now with their roster issues,
with the track record in the draft, as abysmal as

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the defense has been, are they gonna win a championship
over these next four years? Because even if he doesn't
pull a Carson, even if he doesn't pull it Andrew Luck,
if they don't win while he's the face of the franchise,
then who cares?

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Right then it didn't work.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
So that's the question. You might not think he's going
to do a Carson. You might not think he's gonna
do an Andrew Luck. That's fine. Can this franchise, can
this front office, can this coaching staff get Joe Burrow
to a place where his talents are good enough? And
they certainly weren't on this play yesterday, but Joe Burrow's
talents are good enough to get this team a Lombardi
Trophy for the first time ever.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
I'll give you credit, Moe. You answered my question, I
went on answer yours. I'll lay that upon the table
for bengledem thoughtful considerations. Mo Hager, once again, thanks for
coming on the Bill Cunningham Show on this very cold
and windy Monday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Thank you very.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Much, Thank you Willie, and thank you for my hot
folks Sunday last week. It was only twelve and a
half months overdue.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Let's continue with more news next You're home in the
Bengals News Radio seven hundred WLO with the music Russ Jackson.
Many leave, but many return. Good to have him back
on the board. Do your We'll see what happens down
the road. And secondly, you heard mommo talk about the future.
Know your roll and shut your mouth. It's the way

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things are. You either accept it and move on. Why complain?
Why moan? Why act as if things could be better,
because they could be, but they're not going to get better.
In fact, there's many NFL teams not dissimilar to the Bengals. Heck,
look at the Cleveland Browns. For God's sakes, would you
want to be a Browns fan? Or New York Giants.
They're in turmoil. Of course, they won a couple three

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Super Bowls. But how about the Las Vegas Raiders? How
bad are they? They've only won two games? And talk
to my friends in Vegas. They love having the Raiders.
They're likely going to love having a baseball team there.
But nonetheless it's the way things are. There's many a
large and small cities that are in a similar situation
as the Bengals are in with lowsy management and with

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no concern for the fans, and they make billions of dollars.
So know your roll and shut your mouth, get on
your costumes, get on your paint, run around like you're crazy.
Give lots of money to the Bengal organization. And when
they don't sweep the streets and when they don't handle
the bowl of the stadium, you have to go in
and sit on a home city ice bag for several hours.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
You know it's coming. So accepted.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
And you know, one of the great sayings in life,
as you know, is may God give me the strength
to change the things I can change. May God give
me the courage to accept the things I can change,
and the patience to know the difference. And at this
point you have a ninety year old owner who's not
going to change his ways, and there's no general manager
for the ball club. You have Duke Tobin, who's a

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player development guy, and he picks, he picks all the
recipes for the disaster that you saw yesterday, and it's
not likely to get better. And I kind of like
the last question mode laid upon the table. What is
more likely to occur? That is, or is Joe Burrow
going to lead the Bengals to a Super Bowl win?

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Or?

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Secondly, would Joe Burrow become Andrew Locker. Thirdly, would Joe
Burrow become Carson Palmer. Those are the three issues, and
I'm not sure which one is more likely at this point.
I don't know, but whatever it is, it's good to
have an NFL team here, even a bad one with
horrible management and an ownership that is worth now a billions.

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If you were a billionaire and the peasants gave you
all that kind of money, would you really care what
the peasants think. You're a billionaire. If it don't like it,
I'll take my franchise and go somewhere else and get
my billions of dollars. So dress up, put on the
silly costumes, come yell, holler, and shout, and know every
now and then, every thirty years or so, the Bengals

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might be good. They were good with Kenny Anderson and
then slid back into the Abyss. They were good with
boomer size and slid back into the abyss and they
were good with Joe Burrow slid back into the abyss.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
That's the way this is. The last three years.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
The efficiency of the Bengals offensive line is thirtieth in
the league out of thirty two. I like to know
who the other two teams are, and it's not going
to change. The defense is not going to change. Duke
Tobin picks the players, Mike Brown nods, and I assume
Zach Sual has some input and away you go.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
And that's the way it is.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Secondly, I spoke this morning to the Supreme Court Justice
Joseph T and t Eaters, and to indirectly to Mark
Pete Meyer. I talked to Mark pete Meyer about four
days ago. Mark pete Meyer was the trial attorney for
Edward Jones and Elwood was freed in a sense by
the current Hemny County prosecutor. And we're going to take

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that matter up on Wednesday for about an hour sitting
there and there will be Justice Joe Dieters. He's taken
off his black robe with the permission of the Chief
Sharon Kennedy. He's going to talk about the Elwood Jones case,
and of course the murder of Rhoda Nathan and then
Mark Pete Meyer. When you see the old video from
thirty years ago, Mark Pete Meyer was the trial attorney

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for the Prosecutor's office standing next to Elwood Jones, who
Bob Way was a career criminal. Did you has anyone
reported on the fact Prosecutor's office told me he served
at least two stints in prison for burglaries.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
And of course.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Elwood when he when he murdered rote To Nathan was
about forty forty one years old, and he was in
the business of using his pass key to go and
go into the rooms of customers who had left to
go down to the buffet line, and he would go
through the rooms quickly with his pass key and steal
certain items unbeknownst to him. He stole the item around

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rode To Nathan's neck, which was the diamond brooch, the
necklace that eventually got him convicted of murder in front
of a jerry here in Hamlin County. And so the
two issues raised by Countie Pillach are a non sequitur.
One was well, after all, rode To Nathan had hepatitis
B and doctors believe that if you're if you get

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punched in the mouth, you're going to convey to the
other person who's punched you hepatitis B. Well, that could happen.
On the other hand, it may not happen. It's like
being in a room with somebody with the flu. You
may catch it or you may not. It's not a
certainty that if someone as hepatitis B and a fist
hits your mouth so hard your teeth go into your stomach,

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that necessarily it is always true that the person doing that,
Elwood Jones, would get hepatitis B.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
It could happen. On the other hand, it may not happen.
Don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
And the other issue was in a sense that they
got the wrong guy and that the prosecutor's office didn't
turn over certain information. And Mark Petemeyer, who actually was
the guy turning over the information, will be here on
Wednesday to talk about what he provided and how certain
he is that Elwood is guilty of murdering wrote to

(23:52):
Nathan and by the way and Jerry and Hamblin. The
county in nineteen ninety five convicted him at that time
first degree murder, also known as aggravated murderwaw committing a felony,
which was a burglary, and they saw all the evidence,
all the case, and they found him guilty. The case
went to the First District Court of Appeals. The arguments

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raised recently by the defense team was heard by the
First District Court of Appeals. They said, Elwood, you're guilty.
The case then went to the High Supreme Court death
penalty case must be fully reviewed by the High Supreme Court.
By the way, this takes years. And they looked at
all the evidence and said, Elwood, you're guilty.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
You did it.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Another this burglary for him went bad. Then it went
to Federal District Court Judge Carl Ruben, etc. He looked
at all the evidence with his law clerks and said, Elwood,
you did it. Then it went to the sixth Circuit
US Court of Appeals, which is headquartered in Cincinnati, but
it handles Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
They said, Elwood, you did it.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Then over the years, more cases were filed in various courts,
and every I think the numbers twenty to twenty five
judges have all said that Edwood Jones murdered. Wrote to
Nathan that this issue. But hepatitis B is not this
positive one way or another, and the information turned over
or not turned over was not exculpatory and it would

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have provided no available defense not otherwise available. So in
other words, Edward Jones got complete justice and now the
system when I know Sloany this morning had on somebody
about the death penalty briefly on that Mike DeWine has
not signed one death penalty warrant and is not likely
to do it in his last year. The next governor,

(25:35):
vivek Ramaswami and or Amy acting God forbid, is likely
to take the same approach. So Joe Dieters has said
many times, the prosecutors have said to me many times,
if you don't want the death penalty, that's okay, saves
us a lot of work. But if you have a
death penalty, that's the law, and this case applies to
get the death penalty, then it's up to prosecutor's office

(25:56):
to follow his oath and seek.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
The death penalty.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
What happened in Claimont County with that man who killed
his three sons When the prosecutor out there said, I
don't want to try a death penalty case, we'll take
life in prison without possibility of parole. If that guy
didn't get the death penalty for murdering cold blood his
three little boys, there shouldn't be a death penalty. I
have no problem with that because it's so infrequently applied

(26:20):
to the most vicious of offenses. But please, if you
don't want to try a death penalty case, which Connie
Pelly seeming to doesn't want to try one, that's okay.
But in the process of deciding not to try Elwood again,
simply say, look, he's done thirty years in prison and

(26:41):
he's not gonna get the death penalty anyway, I'm gonna
I'm not gonna try him again.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
I'll let him go. Just say that.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
But in the process, don't act as if Mark Petemeyer
and Joe Dieters either didn't know what they were doing
or purposely conjured up evidence to convict an otherwise innocent
man of arible murder. Because that's wrong. That's really wrong.
No one can explain how this specialized necklace around Rooda

(27:11):
Nathan's neck found its way into the toolbox of Elwood Jones,
because that little piece of the puzzle, you know, like
CSI Styalue you try to say, how does this piece fit?

Speaker 1 (27:21):
That doesn't fit at all. Also in the.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Toolbox was a pass key and also some chain links
from doors, and also the actual necklace worn around the
neck of Rhoda Nathan. There were hundreds of photos taken
at the scene and the necklace was missing, and everyone assumed, well,
the murderer took it. Well, they were right. The murderer

(27:43):
took it and it was in his possession when the
police got a search worn and found it inside Elwood's
own toolbox. Can you explain how that got there? Well,
the answer is the murderer put it there. And the
only time anyone has ever tried this case in Hamleton
County to get a verdict, the verdict was guilty as

(28:05):
charged by that jury. You might recall that a recent
trial judge, liberal Democrat, when you cross very liberal Democrat,
granted Elwood a new trial and she barred from evidence
the testimony of any dead witness. How the cops in
Blue Ash largely are dead right now and they can't testify.

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So simply say, look, it's difficult to retry the case,
and that el would receive justice by serving thirty years
in jail for a murder, having already served years in
jail for burglaries before he killed Rode to Nathan. According
to prosecutor Joe Eaters and Mark Petmeyer, I'm going to
conclude the case. Here's the thirty years. See, you wouldn't

(28:48):
want to be you. Just do that, Connie, just say
you know, but don't go out the door kicking Mark
Petemeyer and Joe Eaters and the groin in the neck.
Don't go out the door blaming the for a bad
prosecution when every judge has looked at it, other than
a recent Liberal Democratic judge said that Ellwood was guilty.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Just do that.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Do your job without demeaning other people. So those who
have been demeaned will be here on Wednesday between twelve
thirty and one thirty to describe what happened with Elwood Jones.
Mark Petemeyer is the best trial prosecutor in the history
of the state of Ohio. In fact, the governor and

(29:31):
others appointed him to try cases outside of Hamilton County,
like in Lucasville. When this ride's taking place, let's look
around Ohio and find out of the two or three
thousand prosecutors, who's the best. Well that's Mark Petemeyer, all right,
we get him. And he was in Hamilton County for
like forty years. On top of that, Joe Dieters is
the longest serving prosecutor the history of Hamlet County. He

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only took death penalty cases to trial when he was certain,
not well beyond a reasonable doubt, that the defendant committed
the murder. In every court that's ever looked at it
for thirty years said exactly the same thing, except a
brand new had never been on the bench, liberal Democratic
judge who wanted to free a black man for killing

(30:15):
of a white woman. And she happened to find the
case of Elwood Jones and rode to Nathan and she
did what she did. And that's fine if you want
to play that game, that's good. Every urban county in
America has gone the way of Hamilton County. In the
city of Cincinnati, this is not unusual. You can't get
much justice in Chicago or Memphis, or New York City

(30:35):
or LA for God's sakes, but at least if you
want to do that, simply dismissed the case. He served
thirty years, and I can't put the new case on
because the judge has barred me from putting on testimony
of dead witnesses. Therefore, I'm going to I'm gonna let
Elwood out o R bond from death row. That's fine,

(30:57):
but going out the door. Don't blame Mark eat Meyer
and Joe Eaters for what you want to do. Let's continue.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
That'll be on Wednesday, I think, along with Senator John Houston.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
So there we go. Let's continue with more. After one
o'clock today, we're going to call Steve Gooden, attorney in
the tri State, about the eight point one million dollars
given to the criminals, the protesters who violated misdemeanor laws,
and now they're going to make ten to twenty thousand
dollars each for that and so much more. And after
two o'clock today I'll lay upon the table an important

(31:31):
question for your consideration is jo is Joe Burrow not
Joe Eaters. Is Joe Burrow number one more likely to
win his Super Bowl in the next five years? Number
two become Andrew Luck. So many injuries I quit or
number three Carson Palmer. I want to keep playing football,
I just can't do it here. That would be laid
upon the table for your considerations after two o'clock twelve

(31:55):
fifty five, Homi your reds and God bless Mark Pete
Meyer and Joe Eaters on news Radio seven hundreds ww
B Billy cunning him the Great America. That's the story
last week that Irish Rollie w came out with me
about a month ago. And by the way, I do

(32:16):
not blame Iris ROLEI that the city wants to give
you six hundred thousand dollars plus plus plus. Most Americans
would say thank you, Sir. May have another absolutely about
her getting that kind of money from the city having
solved criminal problems. And secondly, the cities also agreed to
eight point one million dollars to the misdemeanor criminals who
committed offenses of public trespassing. More that were given ten

(32:41):
to twenty thousand dollars each. And I'm gonna ask Steve
good In the attorney about whether citizens like him can
object to the city spending his money in this way.
Is Steve Gooden, Attorney, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
And Steve, first of all, let's deal with Iris Roy.
I watched this public affair situation over the weekend with
Curtis Fuller of Channel five. His guests were Adam Interim

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Chief Adam Henny and Iris Roley and some assistant city manager.
I tried to see what they were saying, but they
were words untethered to reality. I'm not sure what they
were saying other than, man, we're working hard and this
city is so much safer than it's spend in a
long time. Life is good. And then I read about
all the shootings and things of that character. So give
me your sense of paying Iris Roly six hundred thousand

(33:27):
dollars plus and whether that's money well spent, well.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
It's definitely not money well spent.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
It's just this is how this city hall does patronage, right,
I mean, back in the old days, in the nineteen twenties,
the Boss Cock stage, you would hire your buddies.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
To jobs at the city. Now you know that's been
outlawed by the charter. So now you'd hire.

Speaker 5 (33:49):
Independent contractors and nonprofits. And that's how you funnel your
money to your political supporters. Iris was the number one
political activist for the mayor over the last several years.
She personally went after his opponents, went after a city
council candidate. She didn't like she is exempt from all
the ethics laws because she's not an actual city employee.

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So then two days after the election or three days
after the election, they give her six hundred thousand dollars
allegedly it's.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
For our anti violence efforts.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
It looks to all the world to me to be
for her political advocacy. And I'll tell you, as a
guy who has an office right by Government Square, remember
she was being paid to clean up and reduce violence
on Fountain Square and Government Square, in part by passing
out sandwiches and food packets to the kids who hang
around that bus stop. It was a total failure. The

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city still had to lean on Sorta and Metro to
move and re route half those bus lines. That's the
only thing that moved it. We still ended up with
two shootings either on or near Fountain Square in business hours,
and still ended up with SWAT teams to have to
secure it. So whatever she did there was a failure.
But she's still getting paid, And if you ask me,

(35:00):
it's clearly because of all the politics and other stuff
that she did during this time period. It's just patron
It's plain and simple, but it's kind of masked and
looking like it's something else. But you know right now,
the citizens, you know, there's no one on there to complain.
And the fact that if it was so legitimate, why
did they wait till two days after the election.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
To jam it through.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Well, of course, obviously in the good old days, patronage
was you hire, like in the Sopranos, your buddies and
friends for no show jobs, making lots of money. So
you can't do that. She's coined as an independent contractor.
In reality, she's an employee. But if you're an employee,
you can our friends and family members on no show jobs.
So what you do then is make her an independent

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contractor and she gets paid, she submits time sheets. We're
talking serious money here, six hundred thousand. Is there an
effort by you and others to maybe sue on that
behalf saying the misuse of city funds? Is she's not
an independent contractor, she's an employee, and maybe you're saying
you do that? Is that is that possible?

Speaker 5 (36:03):
You know, we've been looking at that for some time,
and that was really one of the big things we
were out talking about during the election, you know, with
the Charter Committee, and I know some of the Republican
candidates were talking about it too. City council could stop
this with a single vote. I mean, they could just
basically say, hey, our contractors are now subject to the
state ethics laws which ban all this stuff, and also
the separate laws and requirements we have in ordinances we

(36:25):
have here in the city. They could shut it down
in a heartbeat. Breaking a lawsuit's going to be tough.
We have looked at that. We've particularly been looking at
this issue with this eight point one million dollars and
then we're going to talk about in the moment. But
it is really really hard to kind of legislate through
litigation on these sorts of things.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
You know, it's a tough thing.

Speaker 5 (36:44):
I mean, a taxpayer lawsuit you know, could be brought
where it goes in our local courts, is very tough
because we're dealing with individual contracts. I would these you know,
five city council members could shut this down for all
time by simply saying we're going to apply the state
life laws on the other laws that exist.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
That won't do.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
Of course, not of course.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Not because in ours rolling once I can't blame her
if somebody said to you, I'm gonna give you six
hundred thousand dollars on a note, show up job to
act as if handout sandwiches on Fountain Square. I think
most people will say, hey, yea, all take it. But
she also attacked the mayor's political opponents. Now on the mayor.
Of course, he didn't make his car payments. You know,

(37:26):
it's a note you have to pay the note you
got to It's a notes I gotta be paid. Uh
Tamay Dinard got in trouble for this. She didn't put
on our financial forms. The fact that she had a
car repossessed and had a deficiency is is anyone looking
at the financial forms and by the way, that's a crime.
Is anyone looking to have to have pure of all
his financial forms. Whether he put down the numerous car repossessions.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
He said.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
Actually, one of my fellow board members over at the
turn of Queen Todd Sensors, who's a former Inspector General
up at the Department of Transportation, is all over this.
You know, we've got multiple public records requests and we're
trying to get to get to the bottom of all that.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
And you know, for me, the big issue it's.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
Not thought whether or not the mayor had financial problems.
I guess people have issues, it's part of life. But
the story he told makes zero sense. And if there's
a problem with disclosure there, I mean, you're absolutely right,
that's something that has to be fleshed out. He's compromised.
We know how things ended with council Member Dinard. I
mean she was compromised because of financial issues and then

(38:32):
ended up soliciting a bribe and pleading guilty to it.
I know she kind of wants to take the plea back,
I understand from her public statements, but she ended up
doing I think eleven months in federal prison for it. So,
and this was one that she solicited. This was not
part of the sit and feld sting operation. She actually
went out and solicited that from a developer's lawyer who

(38:53):
was involved with the banks, mister Gableman. So really a
bad thing and it looks bad on city Hall, and
it compromises these people and it makes them subject.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
To improper influence, and it's something that we are very
much still fleshing out. Well.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
One of the elements of one of the cars repossessed
from after Pureval is a co signer. Doesn't that if
you have a mayor that needs a co signer in
order to get a car. That's kind of a compromising,
bad situation. But areween titled to know who co signed
so you could have a car that was repossessed.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
I believe under the ethics flows, we are entitled to
know that.

Speaker 5 (39:28):
And I mean, look, if he was, if it was
a co signer with something, the co signer with someone
who has business before the city, or could have business
before the city.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
Or is affiliated with the company.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
That has business before the city, that is absolutely something
that we need to know and should know. I mean again,
that person, you know, he is beholden to whoever the
co signer is in one way or another. And absolutely
we're trying to get to the bottom of all that.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Imagine this, Steve Go. We have a mayor doesn't make
car payments, repossessions. We have a city manager who's filed
bankruptcy with tax lienes. The president of council had, according
to media accounts, at a one million dollar tax line
against her and her husband. And those are the leaders
financially of the city. You must master yourself before you

(40:11):
seek to master others. So the city is run by
individuals who have had profound financial difficulties and can't manage
their own money. One might ask, why should they manage
our money. Speaking of that, city council voted unanimously eight
point one million dollars to Alfonsko Hartstein and Louis Serkin, etc.

(40:31):
Because of what happened on the George Floyd protest. There
were fifteen or twenty times the city passed the law
on a curfew, which we have an effect for some
people right now. You have to get off the streets.
You have to quit breaking into cars and fire bombing storefronts.
You have to quit doing that. And they passed a
curfew violation, and that the police notified the so called

(40:52):
individuals marching around city streets, which is a crime, by
the way, breaking curfew a dozen or so times.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Get off, We're going to rest you. Get off.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
They wanted to get arrested, hoping, I guess to se
down the road. Here we are five years later and
it's happened. Number one, Did it appear on the surface.
These four hundred and seventy nine individuals are going to
get all this money that they were breaking the law
by walking around public streets shutting down things. Not the
ones who are fire bombing the stores and breaking into cars.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
That's a different category.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
But the four seventy nine were just individuals who were
arrested with zip tized because they wouldn't pay attention to
what they're told to do. Repeatedly, the last thing the
cops want to do is arrest somebody takes them off
the street. But how valid is this eight point one
million dollars from the city to the criminals.

Speaker 5 (41:41):
Well, this to me is one of the most, if
not the most disgusting thing to come out of.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
This administration so far. Again, note that.

Speaker 5 (41:49):
They waited till after the election to win this sort
of dead period in the holidays to try to do
it and hopefully, hopefully no one would know this. But
this is the worst of the worst. I mean, most
of these folks are going to get ten one thousand
dollars each for basically waiting around for a few hours
in the early morning hours to in the sally Port
over outside the Justice center to try to get them

(42:09):
themselves processed and released on our bonds. I would have
happily gone over for ten grand cash, non taxable and
stood around at the Justice center for a few hours.
I do it all the time for free at my job,
so I would have happily done this. It's a total joke.
I mean, look, Mayor Cranley was right to impose the curfew.
I lived downtown during this time period, and I'm very

(42:30):
tired of people rewriting history. I'm telling you, I heard
the windows break. I knew one of the officers who
was shot at during this. People forget that there were
gone to these peaceful protesters. Some of them were armed,
throwing rocks, harassing police officers. It is absolutely constitutionalle to
put what they call time, place and manner.

Speaker 4 (42:49):
Restrictions on protests.

Speaker 5 (42:51):
All the mayor said was, look, if you guys are
going to protest, protest, but you got to break.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
It up by eleven o'clock.

Speaker 5 (42:56):
And you can't go breaking into breaking windows and damaging
other people's properties. No matter how we grieved someone is
or how bad they felt about George Floyd going and
smashing out windows here and in Cincinnati, Ohio, wasn't going
to bring anyone back to life over in Minneapolis.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
It was just insane.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
And those property owners have rights, and the people who
live downtown and were trying to conduct a business downtown
had rights too, And it was a disgusting time. There's
a total rewrite of history. It is a total waste
of taxpayer dollars.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
And we have no.

Speaker 5 (43:27):
Idea even how these damages were arrived at. So it's
ten grand each for most of them. There's about eleven
of them that claimed that they had special damages who
were going to get more. So there's like a three
hundred thousand dollars pot for the eleven named plaintiffs, and
then the lawyers, of course get two million ques. It's sick.
It's sick, and it's our dollars. I mean, I live

(43:49):
in the city. It's our money, and it's just insane.
And those who are people who don't live in the
city but pay income tax issue because they work here
and have their jobs or have their offices or other
jobs here, you know they're for it as well. The
whole region's paying for it, and people should be very,
very upset.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
The other issue is this, I heard the assistant city
manager say, well, we're going to pay the eight point
one million dollars, so that it could be a lot
higher than that if we go to trial. Well, sometimes
in life, you go to trial. I've tried cases in
federal Court with jurys with Judge Ruben and Judge Porter.
And one should know that the jurors in Federal Court
in the Southern District are not only drawn from Hamilton County.

(44:28):
In fact, the majority of jurors come from the other
sixty counties south of Columbus who have a different view
about these criminal protests. And maybe somebody living in the
city of Cincinnati is a liberal Democrat and so sometimes
in life you got to tee it up. These jurors
would have come from Claremont County, Warren County, Brown County,
Adams County, Highland County. How would they have viewed with

(44:50):
all the video of these protesters and what they did.
Do you think they would have handed out tens of
millions of dollars of these protesters.

Speaker 5 (45:00):
I would love to try this case, I mean going back.
I'd mean, look, you know all, I would love to
get a good juror from Ironton, Ohio on there looking
at the at the video of this and hearing how
these police officers were being treated, and to hear from
some of the shop owners who had their windows smashed
out and who had items stolen from their stores. I mean,
I mean this the curfew was perfectly legal and constitutional.

(45:23):
This is a political settlement. I have no idea and
nor has it ever been explained how they came up
with this ten thousand dollars per person figure. He felt
like they were missing work or anything. I mean, it's
not you know, two in the morning when they got
picked up, nor did they you know or is there
any indication that these folks would have had, you know,
jobs to go to it normally anyway, Probably a lot

(45:43):
of them. I think there were a fair number of
quote unquote professional.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
Protesters down there kipped in. So it's really disgusting.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
It is.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Yeah, you take this hold and they want to pay
the money, and I can only imagine it, by the way,
the other shoe to drop with Elwood Jones, the other
shoe here he come with a lawsuit for millions of
dollars against Hamley County for locking him up for about
thirty years for a murder he committed. And that's coming also.
And then you also have the settlement of Chief Thiji

(46:12):
her hands out for about a million bucks, and then
Chief Washington, the fire chief, his hands out for an
assistant chief. The city's going to settle all these cases
from millions of dollars with your money.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
I don't live in the city, but you do, and.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
You live where f Ted Piraval may not have paid
his HOA fees. He's got serious financial problems and had
the city handled this money as if it's justified.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Has got as sick in a city resident.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
Correct, it's really, it's just disgusting.

Speaker 5 (46:41):
And I mean, meanwhile, you know, we're sitting here in
a deep freeze, which means we're going to.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
Have a really bad pothole season.

Speaker 5 (46:47):
You know, most bottles are caused by early freezes that
get into cracks and then blow up into potholes.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
So we already know we're.

Speaker 5 (46:53):
Going to have a rough time on the streets, you know,
and we know that they're always behind on street pair.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
So the city has already been going.

Speaker 5 (47:02):
You know, into a situation where it looks dilapidated and
the roads are terrible, and it feels like, I say,
you're you know, like a lunar landing sometimes just driving
around the city streets. It's just a it's a mess.
But yet we don't have money to fix the streets.
But we got eight point one million for some people
who felt aggrieved and had their cell phones taken. I
guess that's part of the damages. I was just I
just saw, you know, for for protesting in the in

(47:24):
the middle of the night five years ago. But we
have money for them, but not for this. And they're
making these horrific financial personnel decisions which are going to
cost him. I mean, like Chief Washington, I'm very familiar
with that case, and they've talked to him many times.
He's getting money, okay, like in my judgment, my legal judgment,
putting all politics aside, they owe him. Okay, he's got
a fantastic case. And I think Chief the g they're

(47:47):
gonna end up having to pay her too, as you've
talked about. I mean, these are millions of dollars and
just these you know, effeckless personnel decisions that are purely
politically driven and are I mean, they got rid of
theig because I thought it was going to help the
mayor and city case Unsel before the city before the election,
and it probably did so, I mean, you know, she
became a sacrificial lamb, no matter what you think of
her performance. So this is politics, But people like me

(48:10):
end up paying well.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Steve Gooden tell the mayor it's no joke. You got
to pay your note. So let's see what happens down
the road. It's no joke. You got to pay your note.
We got a mayor. That's finny well, Steve, we got
to run. But thanks for laying it out. We've become
like many other liberal cities, in which case they're poorly run,

(48:31):
very expensive to be in. And of course the Bengal
ownership kind of doesn't have money to buy a snow shovel.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
That's another issue.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
But Steve Gooden, you're a great American, and thanks for
coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Thank you, Steve, you two, thank you any time. Let's continue.
The truth will set you free. It's no joke, you
got to pay your note. On News Radio seven hundreds WLW,
I would expect prosecutors to act like prosecutors.

Speaker 6 (49:01):
Hello, quiet, and I'm broadcasting.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
You know that's justice Joe about Elwood.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
By the way, this Elwood Jones being wine, dined in
pocket line all over town, had two stints in prison
for burglaries before killing Rhoda. Oh so this wasn't exactly
a paragon of virtue, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
So now at a couple of days.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Who's going to show up sitting where Evan Andrews is
right now will be Joseph TNT Dieters had to explode
with a power load.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
We'll be sitting right there.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
He's going to take off his rope and on his
prosecutor's hat and sitting with your segment will be Mark
pete Meyer actually tried the case. They're going to bring
the fastball. There'll be no change ups for that one.
That'll be Wednesday, going to the Express. Yes, now Evan
Andrews is with us, and and Evan talked about first
of all about world events, politics, world capital, what's happening

(50:00):
in Australia, what happened with isis in Syria? Or talk
about SINCEY favorites one of the other, what do you
want to talk about?

Speaker 1 (50:07):
We'll start with SINCEY favorites, good point? How about that?
There we go?

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Now what is Since Segman doesn't know he lives in
Middle Tucky, he doesn't know what Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Is, well explain it.

Speaker 7 (50:16):
As you know, we own Montgomery in and SINCEY Favorites
is a small offshoot of our restaurant business. We started
this in nineteen ninety four, shipping our ribs and barbecue
sauce all across the country. And in the years that followed,
all the other folks in town icons they came and said,
can you do it for us too? And we did
and that's when Sincey Favorites was formed. So we've got Skyline,

(50:39):
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Who's gonna be out there doing quality control? John Gregory
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Speaker 8 (53:15):
The college football Brendan Soresby oh as likely quarterback as
last game for the Cincinnati Bearcats, good ridden six thirty
five pounds dual threat opting out of the liberty Bowl
coming up and has entered the transfer portal.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
How many other UC players are taking the Texas El
Paso come back in quarterbacks? Look at Philip Rivers, he's
going to play for the Bearcats. But well, just saying, maybe.

Speaker 8 (53:43):
Soarsby through for twenty eight hundred yards, twenty seven touchdowns
just five I n T so Brady Lichtenberg. Brady Lichtenberg
out of Toledo. Looks like he's gonna be ready for
the Bearcats in the Liberty Bowl.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Soresby wants to be paid more money. Correct.

Speaker 8 (54:00):
The rumors are that he's been offered four million dollars
by different schools. Say that again, Soresby has been offered
four million dollars by difference, sing very good here she's
offered four million dollars, BINGO take it, I take the
money and run. Yeah, take some river. Bengals update, Willie,

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Speaker 1 (54:24):
Are you afraid to let the Bengal fans talk? Are you?

Speaker 4 (54:27):
Are you?

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Do you fear the Bengal fans? No, they got a
lot to talk about. You happy you didn't have.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
The the doings before the Bengals game. You're like you
didn't have a lot of tail games. You're not kidding.
It was nice and warm at home yesterday. Thirteen Northern
Kentucky locations at Party Town in Florence were open three
hundred and sixty five days to serve you the party.
They have been eliminated for the playoffs after yesterday's tobacco

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twenty four nothing really first time, but they've been shut
out at home since twenty seventeen. The experts said this
morning an ESPN that Joe Burrow is never quarterback the
game when it didn't score point high school, college, pros.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Et cetera.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
So first for everything, Evan Andrews, here's the question number one,
what's going to happen next? First, Joe Burrow becomes Andrew Luck.
That's a B. Joe Burrow becomes Carson Palmer. See Joe
Burrow wins the Super Bowl? Here, what's more likely to happen?

Speaker 1 (55:24):
First?

Speaker 7 (55:24):
D All of the none of the above, None of
the above. I hope it's see what to use. I
hope it's see.

Speaker 8 (55:32):
More to night on Bengals line, Willie. It's six oh
five right here on seven hundred WLW. Monday Night Football
has Miami in Pittsburgh seven on ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Gotta have more like the chiefs Uh, there goes. Tara
is done.

Speaker 8 (55:49):
Patrick Mahomes suffering a torn a cl He may not
even be back to the beginning of next season.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
I'm tired of her anyway. What about you, Evan Andrews.
You like her because she loaded up the boat house
when she was in town?

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Correct, she's she could play every weekend. We'd love to
have her.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Taylor Short have to get rid of I think Travis
Kelsey because they're not in the Super Bowl, thank god.
But we're gonna have that one eyed guy from Puerto Rico.
We're gonna have him singing in Spanish so that you
have to learn English and learn Spanish soon. Okay, so
you can listen to what's his name, the one eyed guy?
That's bad, Bunny, that's him, that's bad.

Speaker 8 (56:21):
And it's one hundred and two days. Will you until
opening day fifty seven? Until spring training begins? What about
the draft? Let's talk about the draft. Got the Bengals
in the draft segment?

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Who knows?

Speaker 2 (56:32):
I think Mike Brown at the age of ninety's gonna
change his ways. Clean the seats off first, How about
sitting on bags of home city ice and you'll love it.
By the way, just kind of brush it away. Where
do you prush it to at your feet, the guy
in front of you, the woman?

Speaker 1 (56:46):
What do you brush it? That never would have happened
in Buffalo? I don't know or clean Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Scott Sloan tells me Buffalo and Cleveland know what to
do when it snows.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
People to show up with the shovel you. You can
give him a ticket to something. Five thousand people, they
show up, they line up, they.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Line up in order and clean out the stadium. But
now we don't think like that. Here at Lisha Reese
I think is correct. One more time, Evan, what happens
with the Sinsey Favorites tell the segment. He wants to
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Speaker 7 (57:16):
As we always say, order early, and often he will.
We've got it ready, just the way too late. We
got the December twenty second is Monday. That's probably that's
probably gonna be it.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Monday's it. Monday's gonna be it for Cincinnati Northern KNACKI well.

Speaker 7 (57:31):
Yeah, you have that order into us by Monday, and
we're going to get it out for Tuesday, no.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Question about it.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
You might You know, Sharon Moore has lots of free
time when he's out out of prison in Michigan, so
that's good. He could even order, right, Sharon, if he
wants to taste the Cincinnati get him negative. Who's in
more trouble? You're ready for another list? Give it to
me about West Miller or Sharon Moore or Zach Shuler

(57:59):
also known as Zach Taylor.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Which which of those three do you think some more trouble?

Speaker 4 (58:03):
I'd go with b.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Yeah, he's a little bit of trouble.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
I think you get the only fan this account. Get
get them lathered up.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
I think Wes will be fine. I don't know. I'm
hoping so here. It's good to be here.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Gotta happen like Travis Steele was great when he got
to Miami. No, we're fine, We're prayerful. We gotta have
we gotta have money. You gotta have hope. All I
have is hope. I don't have reality. I have hope.
Do you have any hope?

Speaker 4 (58:28):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (58:28):
What's gonna happen Sunday in Miami. It's gonna be a
little different temperature. I would think I would say so, Yeah,
is Joe gonna play? I would say so, yes, Evan Andrews, what.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Do you say?

Speaker 7 (58:39):
Absolutely, he's a gamer, he wants to play, he wants
to play well.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Four and eleven is not a good look. Beats three
and thirteen like the Browns are. So it's not another
good draft pick coming up.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Evan Andrews, once again, what's the number to call? And
what's the website if any?

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Get them all segment. Please get me out of the
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Speaker 8 (59:01):
We leave you with the immortal words of the Stoog Report.

Speaker 9 (59:05):
You know this man, I ain't never gonna be the
guy that stands up and makes damn excuses like I
ain't ever gonna do it. I just anybody that follows
our program. It'll never happen. Okay, no matter how frustrated
and pissed off I am, it ain't ever happening. Never
gonna make excuses, but I'll talk about challenges. So don't
get the two damn things confused.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Okay, my name's Wes. Don't get me in this mess.
It's not a joke.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Seg Man, You gotta play, you Gotta pay the on
seven hundred automio by Billy Cunningham The Great America. I've
been listening for the past six hours to you, and
listen to Tom Brennaman this morning, listen to Sloanely about
all the Bengals went went right, one went wrong? How

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bad the stadium preparation was, how bad the Bengals look.
The only thing missing from all this is the heart
and soul of Bengaledom. As the Bengals fan. Having attend
at the game or not, your voice must be heard.
I lay upon the table one of three considerations for
your thoughtful participation at five three, seven nine seven pounds

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seven hundred. In fact, we have seven lines and all
of them are open for your call. But it must
be a quickie. I'm gonna lay upon the table one
of three choices for you to make. I'm gonna keep
track of what the choices are. Then I'm gonna send
them on to uh Dan Horde thought let him know
what Bengaledem's think about this. And that is Joe Burrow,

(01:00:35):
according to Moegger and others, to not look so good
and the game having played quite well by the way
in Baltimore in Thanksgiving night, and then going into Buffalo,
they were what about ten points up, had the ball
with about eight minutes to go in the game, coughed
up a bunch of touchdowns at the end and lost.
Then yesterday's game was a debacle. So I lay upon

(01:00:56):
the table for your thoughtful considerations. I don't want long
dyed tribes. You have to vote one, two or three,
and then give me a brief reason. Then it will
be on to the next seven, four, nine, seven pounds,
seven hundred. Here are the three. Number one, will Joe
Burrow become Andrew Luck? You may recall after about six

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years came out of Stanford and Luck missed an entire season,
and in the sixth year he led the Colts to
the playoffs and then quit. Many people thought, Okay, I'm
not going to quit, but he did quit and never
came back. So that's number one. Will Joe Burrow become
Andrew Luck if he answers to that, that's number one.
Number two, Will Joe Burrow become Carson Palmer. That's another one.

(01:01:41):
Carson Palmer, you know, from Southern col won the Heisman,
spent about fifteen years in the NFL. He was here
for about seven years, and at one point Carson Palmer
said to Mike Brown, I'm done. I'm never going to
set foot at Paul Brown Stadium again. He said, I
have eighty million day in the bank. I don't want
to play for the money. I play for the love

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of the game. I would rather play somewhere else, Trade
me or else. Okay, that's number two, so Joe Burrow
could become Andrew Luck which number one. Joe Burrow, by
the way, turns sixty years old next year. I'm sorry,
turns thirty years old next year. And number two is

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Carson Palmer. That is, I don't want to I want
to keep playing football, not here. Number three will win
a Super Bowl in Cincinnati. Those are the three more
likely to occur into what you attend to each We
have first, we have Steve from Loveland and then Mike
from Fairfield. Number to call is seven four nine, seven thousand,
or pound seven hundred. My producer Dave will pick up

(01:02:47):
the phone, listen to what you have to say.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
We're going to put him in order.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
If Dave picks up the phone and talks with you, you
will get on the air and try to keep your
comments right or wrong to about thirty seconds to a minute,
so many voices must be heard. Dave Keaton, my executive producer,
will make a call as to whether you get on
or not. And Joe Burrow. One, he'll become Andrew Luck
after six years, simply quit. Two he'll become Carson Palmer,

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want to stay in football? Demand of trade? Or number
three he will win a super Bowl in the stripes.
Let's go to Steve first, then we'll go to Mike
and then thousands of others and Steven love him. The
Home of the Tigers, and Steve welcome. I'm gonna make
a note right here to send this to Dan Horde.
What do you say one, two, three or some other comment.

Speaker 10 (01:03:33):
I'll say Taylor's got to go or Jack or Jill's gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
Want to go.

Speaker 6 (01:03:37):
You think you think Zach Taylor Taylor shouldn't be calling
the place he's been.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Calling him for years. You don't think he calls the
right place. Nope, I'm gonna put that down here. So
you're voting for Zach Taylor to get a copy of.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
The home game.

Speaker 11 (01:03:52):
I think he needs to go or else Jill's.

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
Going to want to go.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
All right, thank you, we have your comments. Thank you
very much.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Let's go to Mike and Fairfield, the home of the
the and then Beth in Lawrenceburg, the home of the Speedway.
Mike and Fairfield, the home of the Tigers. Give me
a full report.

Speaker 6 (01:04:06):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
One, two, three or other?

Speaker 12 (01:04:10):
Other?

Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
What is it?

Speaker 13 (01:04:12):
Joe will win a Super Bowl within five years after
Zack is gone.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
So there's two votes to get rid of Zach. So
you see the problem is Zach Shuler also known as
Zach Taylor. The problem is not Joe Burrow. The problem
is the leadership.

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
Correct, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Did you go to the game, by the way and
sit on those high sickles?

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
I did not.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
If I gave you free tickets to a game, would
you go?

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
I wouldn't go. Thank you very much. Let's continue now
we have Let's go to Beth. I hear you calling
from Lawrenceburg, and then the Weston and Indianapolis the home
of Andrew Luck and Beth and Lawrenceburg.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Give me a full report. What is your vote?

Speaker 12 (01:04:53):
My vote is number three? And could McPherson or get
Zicky or somebody find Joe a nice because he just
breaks my heart, he really does. But number three all
the way, who Day?

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
No, Amn, Beth.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
So you there's something about Joe Burrow that draws you in,
and uh, it doesn't draw me in. But you think
the ladies love Joe Burrow. He needs a good woman
to settle down. Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 12 (01:05:18):
That is exactly what I'm saying. That documentary on Netflix
that showed him in his house right just playing the
piano or getting bored, and he just he needs somebody
in there with him to lift him up. And yes,
who Day, But let's find Joe a nice girl.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
So, Beth, you will you want me to get Joe
Burrow a girlfriend?

Speaker 12 (01:05:37):
Yes, yes, he needs he needs a lady in his
life to help.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
No question about it. I mean, I you know, women
are much better than men. I've always said that, Beth.
Women are the women are the foundation of our society.
Without women, men could not exist. And so if Joe
Burrow had a distraction from thinking about football, of course
he allegedly is dating a supermodel.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
I have her name here.

Speaker 12 (01:06:00):
But you know, all those all these ladies now, they're
only in it for the money. And I that's why
I say, let money mac or your nikky. Somebody fix
him up. Surely their wives have a lady friend that
they can hook up with him.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Yeah, that's the way it works today, because you have
a friend dating somebody, and then the girl you're dating
hooks up somebody else with another woman.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
I'm putting that down.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
I'm gonna tell Dan Horde that you're saying, Joe Burrow
needs a woman. Yes, very good comments. Thank you very
much for your call. Let's go to Tim and Mason,
the home of the transmitter, and then Weston and Indianapolis. Tim,
give me a full report.

Speaker 10 (01:06:35):
Well, really, the full report is this, and I guess
I'd go with other. I think as long as the
Brown family owns the Bengals the Bungles, they're never going
to win a Super Bowl. They're simply not willing to
do what the other successful teams in the NFL do.
Play and simple.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
I have a text here from Lincoln b Ware. Ever
since Joe's been dating that model, his career has gone downhill.
What do you think about that? Wasn't he with an
influencer when his place was burglarized?

Speaker 10 (01:07:05):
He was originally with a very nice girl that he met,
you know, years ago in Mason they were an item
for a long time. I think she worked in Kroger
or something. They went to Ohio State together. I wonder
what happened to her. She was pretty, she was nice,
but evidently, you know, you get a taste of the
high life and you get all these chicks coming after.
I mean, wasn't that one girl supposed to be in

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his house and was getting broken into or something?

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
According to media accounts, the nicer Roguin gang was coming
in the back window and she was in the front
calling nine one one, having talked to her mother in
New York City. This is a rather daffy woman who
thinks nine to one one is in New York City
and that wasn't a good situation. And Joe, I think
it was playing football somewhere that night out of town
and his home's burglarized stuff was tolen, and then the

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guys who stole it went on Facebook and put videos
of them holding Joe Burrow stuff. Those weren't the sharpest
knives in the you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (01:08:01):
No, I think the curse of the Schnorf was on
those goons. But you know the other thing is he
needs to get in his batmobile and just go to
an NFL city where he's going to be with an
ownership that is willing to do what it takes to
win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
I think he needs to get away a little bit.
I like BET's idea.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Find him a nice woman, a local woman, maybe working
at Kroger, something like that would.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Make some sense.

Speaker 10 (01:08:24):
I agree, Willie, as usual, You've got all the answers.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
God bless America. Let's continue with more. Let's go to
Weston and Indianapolis. Hounds like a hotel and in Weston,
give me a full report, all.

Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
Right, man?

Speaker 14 (01:08:36):
So first off, to mention Joe Burrow and Carson Palmer
in the same sentence is disrespectful. They're not even in
the same stratosphere. And Joe Burrow's not Andrew luck either.
Andrew Luckton a love football. He played football on the side.
Joe Andrew luck was not a football player.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Joe Burrow is a football player.

Speaker 14 (01:08:50):
He's a competitor and the guy wants nothing more to
tend to win. The reason he's voice in his frustrations
are because he's won at every level in his life
and he's never ever had to do a lose like this,
especially when he's played well, for the most part, Joe
Burrow coming out and saying that stuff, he's never going
to actually say something about, oh, we need to fire
Zach Taylor, we need to make changes in the personnel department.
But Joe Burrow coming out and voice and those frustrations

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is like that, that's what's gonna make him.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
That's what sorry, that is what.

Speaker 14 (01:09:16):
Is going to lead him to behind the scenes in
the offseason, tell them to make changes.

Speaker 10 (01:09:20):
And Joe Burrow is going to win a Super Bowl
in Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Putting that down. I like that, Pop, I have hope
in my heart that's number two. Win a Super Bowl
here before he becomes Andrew Luck or Carson Palmer, who,
by the way, went to I think he went to
the NFC Championship Game with the Cardinals having gone to
the Raiders went to the Cardinals. But Joe's already done that.
He's done that. He's spend the NFC Championship Game twice

(01:09:43):
and he's won and one. And I think Patrick Mahomes
has done He's got the ACL They had a good
ten year run. But it's over all right now, Weston,
I'm putting you down to win the Super Bowl, correct.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
God bless America.

Speaker 4 (01:09:56):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Let's go to Paul and Cleeves then don in thousands
of others. Paul and kleif Eves, give me a full report.

Speaker 6 (01:10:02):
All right, Willy. What I think he needs to do
is just like Carson Palmer did, walk into Mike Brown's office,
put it on the put it on the table, and say, look,
we're wasting talent, we're wasting time. Either you bony have
some money or I'm out, and then take the money
and run.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Well, you know, he's tied to the Bengals for the
next his contracts through twenty twenty nine, and he's he's owed,
according to ESPN, about another two hundred and twenty million dollars.
That's money even to you. And so this guy would
have to walk away from two hundred and twenty million.
That's like real money even even in your book.

Speaker 6 (01:10:39):
Yes, but he can actually want If he walks away
from that money, maybe that will actually open the eyes
of the ownership. Like they said, their scouting department is
absolutely atrocious.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
Here.

Speaker 6 (01:10:50):
You look at we're half the size of the majority
of the teams in the NFL's has their scouting department
half the size? We can't scout great talent or even
good talent. Right now, you look at the last three
drafts that we've had, and they I couldn't tell you
where we even got some of these players.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Well, i'll make your note. So your vote. What's of
the three? Is he car? So you say he's going
to become Carson Carson Palmer?

Speaker 6 (01:11:21):
He should be Carson Palmer. Walk right in the Mike
Brown's office and put it all on the line.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Does he need a girlfriend too, a good looking local girl.
What do you think?

Speaker 6 (01:11:31):
Oh? Yeah, I mean that, I mean he needs a
girlfriend just in general.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Yeah, he needs to relieve some tension. All right, Paul,
thank you for your call.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Let's continue now with Don and then Dan and millions
of others, and don give me your analysis. What do
the Bengals do? What does Joe Burrow do? The American
people want to.

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
Know, Willie.

Speaker 13 (01:11:52):
The Cincinnati Bengals are where Heisman Trophy winners careers go
to die. Carson Palmer and Joe Burrow wasted their careers
with this. With his team. Burrow's not going anywhere. He's

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going to ride it out until twenty twenty nine. He's
not gonna win any Super Bowls. He might maybe get
into a playoff game, but I doubt it because Mike
Brown and the clowns running this team are gonna are
gonna ruin his career and take.

Speaker 4 (01:12:30):
It away from him, just like they did.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
Carson Palmer throwing Archie Griffin. I think Cincinnati's had three
Heisman Trophy winners. Am I missing one? Archie Griffin back
to back, Carson Palmer and then Joe Burrow. If they
had any other Heisman Trophy winners here?

Speaker 4 (01:12:47):
Yeah, I mean they just they Mike.

Speaker 13 (01:12:49):
Mike Brown ruins these players. He skims on everything he's got.
He's got the two bad probably the two best receivers
in in the NFL, in the best quarterback in the NFL,
and he's ruined them.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
All right, thank you for your call. We mark that down.
We have Dan Rick and then Tony and that'll be
it and Dan and Dayton the Home of the Gems.
Give me a full report. You have about a thirty
eight seconds one two, three or other.

Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
Two.

Speaker 13 (01:13:20):
The only way that Joe Burrow wins the super Bowl
in Cincinnati is if Mike Brown sells the teams that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
It won't happen because the family's making about one hundred
million dollars a year in cash plus the team is
worth about four billion dollars. Would you sell something worth
four billion dollars and making one hundred million on the side?

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
Well, I mean, how how old are they?

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
I mean, Mike Brown's ninety?

Speaker 4 (01:13:45):
You got all that money too.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Mike Brown's ninety? Yeah, all right, thank you for your call.
We got your vote. We got Rick and then Tony
and that'll be it Rick and Western Hills, the home
of Ron's roost. Rick, give me a full report.

Speaker 15 (01:13:56):
I think the Begos are going to win to's Super
Bowl next year.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
And I really do you believe if they.

Speaker 15 (01:14:01):
Hire Bill Belichick as a general marriager and he can
rebuild their defense and their offensive line to hire some
joke yard dog type people. Yeah, he das you know,
how to tackle people. And he's like his first round
draft pick, you don't want to play because it's called
for you all, are going to hurt himself?

Speaker 6 (01:14:19):
Well do i't?

Speaker 15 (01:14:20):
They put him on the kickoff team, so he learns
how to tackle?

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
Well, how so hard is.

Speaker 15 (01:14:24):
The learn out of a handle men? You know, young men?
Half a billion dollars and what do they do? They
play around and take it easy and they're not tough.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
You know, May I go to Canadian Football.

Speaker 15 (01:14:34):
League to grab some people who really want to tackle
hard to break the Devin here.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Make Bill Belichick the GM, and maybe John Gruden the coach.
Last call Tony. So far we've got two two, got
two three, two two and one and Tony from Cincinnati
give me one two three or other?

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
What is it?

Speaker 11 (01:14:53):
I'm in column three, Willie all the way.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
There's just a.

Speaker 11 (01:14:56):
Few decisions away from turning this thing around. Long as
we have Burrow, it means the world. We just need
to bring in a new coach, a new GM, turn
things around, and it'll happen.

Speaker 13 (01:15:08):
I guarantee it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
The majority of Bengals fans said the Bengals will win
a Super Bowl with Joe Burrow. All we have is hope,
keep hope alive. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred WW.

Speaker 16 (01:15:20):
And of course I'm going to say a few words
about the terrible shooting in Sydney, Australia.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
Okay.

Speaker 16 (01:15:26):
So, and first, of course, as I always say, no
matter what, go Bills.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
They beat the Patriots today.

Speaker 4 (01:15:32):
It's a big deal.

Speaker 12 (01:15:35):
Hello, Hello, Buiet, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Broadcasting so Rocky, your friend Chuck Schumer just said go
bills in reference to the Australian shooting of a fifteen
Jews and forty other people.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
He said, go bills.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
Before we get to play that again, Dave, because I'm
not sure the rock heard at all.

Speaker 16 (01:16:00):
Of course, I'm going to say a few words about
the terrible shooting in Sydney, Australia. Okay, So when first,
of course, as I always say, no matter what, go bills.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
They beat the Patriots today.

Speaker 4 (01:16:10):
It's a big deal.

Speaker 17 (01:16:12):
So before he makes a statement on a pretty serious matter,
he has go bills.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
Maybe he's running for real elections? Is do you have
a concern? I have the flash poll right here, Rocky.
Here are the results fire Away one, two, three, before
we go to the segment, and four Joe Burrow Number one.
What's going to happen next?

Speaker 4 (01:16:33):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
One couch one Andrew Luck. Joe Burrow becomes Andrew Luck.
After six years, you might recall your friend Andrew Luck
missed an entire season, then he came back, took the
Colts of the playoffs and said I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
Do it anymore. I'm done.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
Number two Joe Burrow becomes Carson Palmer walks into Mike
Brown's office and I can't take it anymore. I don't
want to play football anymore. I'm not setting foot inside
pay Cop anymore. Trey me, I'm not playing here anymore.
Or three he wins the Super Bowl for Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
Is the only three I get. But the people have
responded right there. I don't know if there's gonna be
any of them.

Speaker 17 (01:17:10):
I don't see him winning a super Bowl next year,
but I don't I don't know if I see him
quitting next year.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
Hey, what do you see? I need an answer? Answer
the question? You got one?

Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
Or three?

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
Can I get a fourth option? You got a fourth?

Speaker 4 (01:17:23):
Say?

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
Is there a fourth option? I don't know. Is there no?

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
You gotta pick one. What's more likely to happen? Super
Bowl win by Joe Burrow. He walks into Mike Brown's
office Carson Palmers style and says, I can't take it anymore.
Or he quits after six or seven years with fifty
one hundred million in his pocket.

Speaker 17 (01:17:43):
I want to introduce a fourth option. Let me write
it down, all right, let me ready.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
Which is finishes out?

Speaker 17 (01:17:49):
This season, has a little moving offseason, takes a deep
breath and gets back to playing football.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
That's what I think we gotta call.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Beth from Lawrenceburg says he needs a low coold girlfriend.
Leave the influencers, lead.

Speaker 17 (01:18:02):
The runway girlfriend gal to cook, you know, and he's
gonna take care of him and not be doing tiktoks
all the time like half the Bengals wives and girlfriends do.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
They don't want to do that. It's just too much.
Somebody needs somebody.

Speaker 17 (01:18:18):
I imagine his heart being him because he can't go
out in public, right, so he can't. He has like
sit in this house of his that he has and
just kind of hang out by himself. He needs a
good Midwestern woman, you know about you know, Sarah of her.
That's I don't know if that would be a good idea.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
So he needs a homegrown she's married somebody like that.

Speaker 17 (01:18:45):
Yeah, a mount Notre Dame Saint Ursula Seaton.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Did you see the Netflix special on him? I saw
it at the end of Quarterback. Yeah, he's playing the
panel by himself. He's lonely, staring into the abysses like
you know, Zach used to stare into the abyss and
so he needs a woman to occupy his time.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
Talents and get away from it. Whatever. That high school
girlfriend that he had got rid of her.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
He got rid of and then then he got the
got the influencer, the one that was there for the burglary.
How did that work out? Kicked her out? Now he's
with a runway model. I got her name here if
you're interested.

Speaker 17 (01:19:21):
Yeah, strictly for research purposes.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
What's your name? First name is Jordan. Here we go
just never ends.

Speaker 17 (01:19:30):
But it was a tough It was a tough day
for the hometown team.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
Really, and you're up there sitting on a bag of
home city ice.

Speaker 8 (01:19:40):
I mean, how many times are you shut out in
your pro career with the Colts or Titans?

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
Ever? Shut out?

Speaker 17 (01:19:46):
I can't remember getting shut out now.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
So do we figure out what happened? What was the
reason the seats weren't clean? Was it a yes?

Speaker 17 (01:19:56):
A they thought somebody did it and they didn't do it.
Be they didn't hire somebody to do it because they
didn't want to pay them.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
Or see is there a C?

Speaker 4 (01:20:05):
Yeah or c?

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
Did they just think it wasn't important? I don't care?

Speaker 4 (01:20:08):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
Did you see a lot they did?

Speaker 8 (01:20:10):
They did clean the uh entrance way to the to
the gates and the aisleways and all that stuff. But
apparently that's all you need to do in the NFL.

Speaker 17 (01:20:20):
But you couldn't get in half the other teams. I'm
sure you saw the tweets and clear everything out. Yeah,
you pay some was it? I guess the Eagles are
the bills.

Speaker 8 (01:20:27):
They make twenty dollars an hour. You get free food
and everything at a ticket. So again, did they a
forget to do that? Be just say uh, hell with it?
Because if they said, the hell with.

Speaker 17 (01:20:37):
It in today's world, and why did they not want
to pay it?

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Well, the fans pay thousands of dollars and they can't
sit there. And the Bengals pressure release said just brush
the snow away? Where do you brush it? To the
guy in front of you? The person next to froz
See is frozen. What do you brush it? It's like, hey, peasant,
eat some cake. I think there's people down there stuck
to the seats.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
Why wouldn't they do that? What's your opinion? What's your opinion?
How about today? I think they don't care. That's what
I'm afraid of.

Speaker 8 (01:21:07):
One guy had a tweet said I got too hot chocolates.
They were called ice cold. The one guy, the guy
saying guy said, I got a beer it was frozen
and all this stuff. And I've been I've been up
back in this team since it began.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
They not think of it, or they think of it
and going a hell of it. It'll be all right.
Not any concession stands are open.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Gets next time money in. You gotta get your money
in already for twenty twenty six. Okay, get your money in,
know your roll and shut your mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
And secondly, Joe.

Speaker 17 (01:21:34):
I just wonder if the I sometimes think that the
franchise operates under like a nineteen eighty five way of thinking,
which is like we're, you know, paying somebody a certain
amount of people a couple thousand dollars to clear it
was like, that's not really great for the bottom line.
But this is twenty twenty five. This is a multi
billion dollar industry. This is not nineteen seventy five. We're like, God,

(01:21:56):
if we got to you know, at times.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Ten thousand, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 18 (01:22:01):
You can talk to people anytime anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
See, he thinks telephones are just recently invented, and he's
ninety years old. For God's sakes, He's not going to
change his waist. He was born like an eighteen eighty five.

Speaker 17 (01:22:13):
But all the stuff they do, like like not having
like having the smallest recruitings or draft evaluation staff. That's
like a like a mid nineteen eighties way of thinking.

Speaker 18 (01:22:25):
Nice for that because we run with a lighter crew
than some other teams do. But I don't know that
we do badly there. We picked up Reggie Nelson this year.
That's a pretty good acquisition.

Speaker 17 (01:22:38):
See, what what do most businesses do, whether they that
are you know, say they're kind of mid tier. Usually
what they do is they give a good what are
the ones that are the ones that are on the top?

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
But what are they? Okay, that's them a r What
do they do? What are the three things they do?

Speaker 17 (01:22:54):
Now, if we're not doing those three things, we should
do those three things and maybe one up the top.
I mean, that's pretty that's what they do. That's what
It's simple. You're making no sense at all.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
If you don't think you have a problem in your community,
you're probably wrong.

Speaker 8 (01:23:07):
They give me some sports, will he The student reporters
of Proud Service, every local Thamestar heating and air conditioning
dealers thamestar quality could feel in Cincinnati, Coles Sheldon Braun
at Braun heating at five one, three three eighty five
seventy seven sixty five. I need something today college football
Willie quarterback Brendan Soorsby got this one wrong, is opting

(01:23:28):
out of the Liberty Bowl and has entered the trashy world.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
You're calling the game without without Soresby. I had him
playing quarterback for the Bengals after about four weeks, and
now he's going to get four million dollars playing for.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
Who say, whoever wants him. You see, he's been, he's been.

Speaker 8 (01:23:46):
Rumors are that he's been offered four million dollars by
different schools, a couple of them in the Southeastern Conference.

Speaker 4 (01:23:53):
We would you do?

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
Take the money and run?

Speaker 4 (01:23:55):
There you go?

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
Please continue?

Speaker 8 (01:23:56):
Uh, let's see NFL news. Green Bay linebacker Michael Parsons
it's all official. He is out for the rest of
the season with a torn ACL yesterday and he faces
a nine month recovery. Patrick Mahomes, who also has an
ACL tear yesterday, will head for Dallas and get a
second opinion from doctors. They say he may not be

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back until after the beginning of next season.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
Twenty twenty seven, right, correct? So Rock your reaction.

Speaker 17 (01:24:26):
Why are these all these guys getting hurt? Are there
too many games or not enough practice? What is it
too much practice?

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
Someone's got to be evaluated ACLS constantly.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
It's not like they practice a lot. Fuck to Dave
Lapham about.

Speaker 17 (01:24:41):
Practice stand Yeah, they rocked practice, man. We're talking about
practice man. So you you think with all these injuries,
players are excited to add an eighteenth game to the season.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
They're excited. They're very excited. They can't wait. Yea't wait
to get the game. Yeah, a lot of games.

Speaker 8 (01:24:55):
College Basketball AP Top twenty five Arizona one, Michigan two,
Duke Is three, Produe is six, Louisville eleventh. Miami the
ten and O RedHawks got four votes this week, up
from two last week from two last week. They're thirty seventh,
and Miami is just one of seven undefeated teams left

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in college basketball at the date.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Couldn't coach at X He's coaching at Miami. Another question
for you, Rock, who's in worse shape?

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
Sharon Moore? There, that's it. How about how.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
About Wes Miller. Don't get me in this mess? Wes
Wes Miller. How about Zach Shu Sharon is going to
prison according to the sentencing guidelines?

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
Is Zach Tannler going to prison? No? I don't. Okay,
so good? You don't what to go to No, you
don't want to go to prison? No, stay out of
prison with his crown?

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
Well, it was it was a lot of things like
breaking into someone's home, what with his crawd, trying to
beat the crap out of her?

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
What was his wire fraud? And paying off witnesses? What
his crime there? It is?

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
I did my best. I can't convince him of anything.
That's our good friend. Benjamin Crump. What was his crime?

Speaker 17 (01:26:07):
Lies?

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
Speaks up? All right?

Speaker 17 (01:26:12):
So so you through the question to me and say
about what Joe Burrow does next year?

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
What do you say? Yeah? Why don't you answer the
question for one question? Yeah?

Speaker 17 (01:26:23):
Caon Palmer, Andrew Locke or super Bowl? I think those
three options. I think the super.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
Bowl is more likely. However, that's not likely. Would you
agree or not?

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
It's pretty tough surely for next year.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
I don't think it's gonna turn down two hundred and
seventy five million dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
Is that like a chunky No? And I don't think
it's gonna quit. Joe Burrow, I think he's going to quit.
You're gonna get through this season quick?

Speaker 15 (01:26:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
I mean, is he gonna play?

Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
There?

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
Are they gonna play in the rest of the season.
He's smart, He's gonna play.

Speaker 17 (01:26:53):
Get through the off season, gonna get away from it.
Go to Tahiti with a couple of models and.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
Stuff, take away models. How about one girl. He's almost
thirty years old. That's the time.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
Talk to his I like his mom and dad. Talk
to mama and say, Mama, what should I do?

Speaker 17 (01:27:07):
He's a good Midwestern girl who doesn't have an ig
account or a TikTok account and none that stuff. Just
one thing. Have kids and take care of him and
raise a family.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
That's what he needs. He used to have children.

Speaker 17 (01:27:21):
Knows that they know how to cook right and cook
nice meals, create a nice home.

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
That's what he needs. All he does is playing the
pan and look at the Ohio river.

Speaker 17 (01:27:29):
Very lonely.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
He's a lonely man.

Speaker 17 (01:27:32):
I saw it a bit with with Peyton Man and
he couldn't go out of his house. But he was
like he was always playing at a high level. So
wherever he went, people were like, you know, how about
he couldn't go anywhere?

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
You know Roy Orbison? Of course, only the lonely was
he's singing about Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow is lonely. Needs
a woman, a good woman, midwestern woman, good stock, thirty legs,
broad hips.

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
He had good shout bear and hips.

Speaker 17 (01:28:00):
That's what exactly, big hips, those skinny you know model.
We need somebody with you know, give me yeah, only alone?

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
Remember him? You liked him, didn't you know? He's the
best big Oh he's the big old rock. What's on
the big show today? Trying to get a little matchmaking here?
He may have trouble meeting a woman. Is that possible?

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
He has had a ship, and I don't think so.
They'd they'd be lining up from him.

Speaker 17 (01:28:27):
He has trouble meeting the right woman because he's around.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
Yeah, that he is. Only fans have no idea. He's
on there all the time, only fans. I am.

Speaker 17 (01:28:37):
You should have an only fans account. Say sure, there's
a market for that. Make a few extra bucks on
the side side, hustle Sarah. Now if you got her
on it, you probably would't make Some storms are brilliant
her eyes. Believe me storms, what's on the big show?
Rock Eddie and I are going to discuss the Bengals
game yesterday, and we're going to take calls from people

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that were there. I want to know from versus mouth
what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
We need to know the story.

Speaker 17 (01:29:02):
How come the gates weren't open forty to fifty minutes
before the game?

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
I'll come as after the first quarter you couldn't move,
You were stuck to the seat.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
You couldn't move. You leave your flesh on the seats.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
To hell with the fans and the crowd of paying
the bills we already got ours. Is that it sad
Get me out of never have your tongue s touched
and it stuck on a metal pool. No seg give
me out of the student's report only fans Willian Hotter
of warmer days ahead. We leave you with the immortal
words of the stewed report.

Speaker 16 (01:29:36):
If they keep going away, they're going I don't know
what's going happen in our city.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
Sidely said that, and Sideley's laid down the law on
seven hundred WLW