Live on Sunday Night with Bill Cunningham 12/21/2025

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Speaker 1 (00:51):
I'm Billy Cunningham, the great American. Welcome this Sunday night,
and first of all, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
I am told the White House at a big Christmas
function which they played Silent Night, and Merry Christmas was signed,
was hung everywhere in the White House, and people freely
could save Merry Christmas. So that's a positive. And that's
only after less than one year of Donald J. Trump.

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A couple of housekeeping matters. First of all, the US
has boarded a third Venezuelan and oil tanker pursuing to
a federal judge's warrant to seize it. It was identified
two years ago someone in the Biden administration using the
auto pen listed a whole bunch of tankers that were
in violation of a US law and also the World

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Court the un because they were unflagged, unconnected to a country.
They were sailing around giving oil from Venezuela to Cuba
and to Iran that needs help, serious help, and to Iraq,
and now that's been stopped. So the next few weeks
are going to be interesting because those regimes could collapse
at one point or another, if they haven't collapsed already.

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And it's sad for the good people of Cuba to
have to go through this. It's up to them to
correct it, not up to us. So we'll continue to
follow that as events unfold. Also with picking up the
pieces of the homeless guy named John who broke the
case at Brown University. Now the officials there are breaking
their arms and dislocating their shoulders, patting themselves on the

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back for solving this thing, which is again and he
was here legally because he was part of some diversity
program from Portugal and he was admitted, i think in
twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen, given a permanent residence green
card because he won the lottery in Portugal. He'd been
here before on a student visa, did allows a job

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and between the years twenty oh three and twenty seventeen,
many were unsure about this murderer, this triple homicide artist
who should not have been in the country at all.
And Christy nom has now stopped the so called diversity
program because as you know, America does not have enough diversity.
We need more diversity of Portuguese and so she has
stopped the program, to the consternation at many liberals. But

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when I look at this case that was finally resolved
Thursday and Friday, John the homeless guy broke the case.
I know this is something that Dei hires at Brown University,
you don't want to hear. You might recall the second
photo put out with some individual looking with bushy eyebrows,
kind of walking around as a person of interest, not
as a perpetrator, but as somebody who may have met

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the murderer. It turned out that he did meet the murderer,
and the homeless guy lived in the basement of the
physics building. He lived in a basement as a homeless person.
And know when a Brown University knew he was in
the basement living there, and he just happened to run
into the guy and started falling with him. The murderer
because to the homeless guy, John said, he didn't fit in.

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The homeless guy who's likely to get the fifty thousand
dollars reward, by the way, the homeless guy who's like
thirty eight years old as a graduate of Brown University,
how about that deal? So we began following the murderer.
He didn't thought he fitted in. He uh recorded the
idea that he was driving a white Nissan with a

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Florida plate for the homeless guy named John. It was
like boy Florida plate in the Rhode Island and I
don't think so. So he just made a note of
that in his mind, put it on Reddit, and then
when the missive went out from the FBI, if you're
this person, come forward. Within an hour, he walked up

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to two Providence police officers in uniform on the Brown
University campus and said, uh, I think I'm that guy
you're looking for me? He said, yeah, you know anything
about this case? Yeah, it was a guy I followed.
He might be the guy who killed those those uh
that two students in Brown and wounded the other nine.
So they took him in, confirmed the story, and then

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from the rented card place they got his identity out
of the murderer. From that, they led them to the
storage unit and he killed himself two before his body
was located unbeknownst to the police. Complete mental and prosecutorial misconduct,
police information by the Providence cop, the Providence mayor, the

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Providence president has no idea what they're doing. The homeless
guy cracked the case, and he's entitled the fifty thousand dollars.
Hope he spends the money wisely. But if somebody has
a place to go to school, why in the world
would you send your kid, your daughter, or your son
to a place like Columbia or Harvard, or Yale or

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a Dartmouth or Brown University when their bunch are run
by a bunch of liberals encouraging students to engage in
hate speech against Jews and others. And his homeless guys
living in buildings. This guy has a mental difficulties, that is,
the homeless guy also has a substance abuse problem. So
I hope this fifty thousand dollars gets some straight a

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little bit of a housekeeping matter. And secondly, or fourthly,
and Nicki Minaje, Nicki Minaje, the female rap star has
now taken to Erica Erica Kirk and she appeared at
the Turning Point USA rally in Phoenix, Arizona, in front

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of eight thousand I saw this morning. I think Fox
newsheaded this morning. The morning session started at nine am
local time in Phoenix and by four am there were
thousands lined up around the block. And I have hope.
The hope is only this that if you give our
college graduates in a doctrination program for four years, in

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most colleges, they come out as marching Marxists. They do
not come out as free thinkers, believing in family, faith,
and the flag. The three main principles of Charlie were
number one God, number two family, number three America. And
you don't get that in high school very often. You
don't get that very often in college at all. So

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to have this particular movement that Charlie started about twelve
years ago to metastasize in many colleges, telling these kids
about God and about family and about the flag in
America was right at the heart of the education system

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we have in this country. There's not enough of that.
All of us have a concern. In twenty twenty eight
or even twenty twenty six, and about eleven months from now,
if this country turns to Akeem Jeffreys and Chuck Schumer
to solve problems, my gosh, are we in trouble. More
trouble than you can imagine. Because they don't have the solution.
All they can do is smear and divide. The Democratic

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Party presides over racism, they always have historically to the
party of racism, and racism pays big dividends for the
Democrats by keeping their supporters all riled up. It means
that they can count upon about ninety five percent or
so of Democratic Black female vote and about eighty percent

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of the black male vote. And that's how they stay
in power, whether you're Brandon Johnson or whether you're Kim
Bass or whether Mam Donnie has captured most of that
vote because kids come out of college not educated but indoctrinated.
And to heavy party that survives because of racism is
sick and sad. In the twenty first century. The Democratic

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Party only presides over racist they claim, in order to
keep them in the fold, to keep them voting for Democrats.
The party of Racism today the same as it was
for the past two hundred years, as the Democrat party,
and so to have Nicki Minaj appear at the turning
point USA America at fest and Phoenix for the last

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three or four days was wonderful. And later on we
may play some of that, some cuts from Nicki Minaj.
I'm not sure Conservative talk radio has played Nicki minage
very often. I'm not sure about that. I don't think so.
I might be wrong. I might be wrong, but I
doubt it. But Nicki Minaj is making sense. Now, lastly,

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before I take your calls, before I pu little Nicki minajh.
This story broke about three days ago, and I know
it's an important story because the mainstream media has ignored
it completely. You might recall in twenty twenty, Donald Trump
made a telephone call to a guy named Raffensberger, who's
the Secretary of state in Georgia, the Peachtree State, and

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said find me eleven thousand and seven or sixty five votes.
And he didn't say corruptly or illegally. He said they
got to be out there somewhere. Something's wrong. The Trump
just said, I know I won Georgia. Also in that election,
John asof barely beat David Perdue, who had been in
office for quite a while, and many people said something's
not right. You might recall that the media told us

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it was the most secure election in American history, that
was unbelievably secure in twenty twenty. But now the other
shoe is dropped. Here we go. A Georgia State Election
Board investigation substantiates that Fulton County, though home of Fanny

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Willis and lover boy Nathan Wade, that Fulton County violated
election rules in twenty twenty by failing to have poll
workers sign required tabulation tapes for early voting in thirty
six of thirty seven advanced voting precincts affecting ready for
this number, three hundred and fifteen thousand votes in Fulton County.

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Let me guess ninety percent were Democratic votes. These unsigned
tapes broke the chain of custody in certification requirements under
Georgia law, which mandates signed tapes as the sole legal
proof of authentic vote totals. During a Board and meeting
of December, the ninth and Brumbaugh, attorney for the Fulton

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County Board of Elections, contends that quote, we do not
dispute this, Okay, don't dispute it, She said, it was
a violation of law. She also went on to say,
don't worry about it. After twenty twenty, we have new
leadership and a new building and a new board and
a new standard operating procedure, and since then the training

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has been enhanced. Quote, we don't dispute the allegation from
twenty twenty election. So a little bit further, David Cross,
a local election integrity activist, made that allegation. He fought
a former complaint alleging in March of twenty twenty two

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that Fulton County illegally counted three hundred and fifteen thousand
early votes. And now the Georgia State Board of Supervision
and the Board of Elections says they do not dispute
the finding. What does that mean for the twenty twenty election? Continue?

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Quote these signed tapes are the sole legal certification that
the reported totals are authentic. Fulton County produced zero signed
tabulating tapes in the early voting. These are not clerical errors.
They are catastrophic breaks in chant accosted in certification. Since
no tape was legally certified, Fulton County had no lawful

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authority to certify its advanced voting results to the Secretary
of State Refensberger, who accepted in twenty twenty and folded
those uncertified numbers in the George's official total without questioning them.
When the law demands three signatures on a tabulation tape

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and the county fails to follow the rules, those three
hundred and fifteen thousand votes in Fulton County are by
definition uncertified and illegally cast. What here it is? What's
that mean? That means John Ossoff should not be in
the United States Senate his running mate, that the reverend

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won by more than that, but as Off did not.
So here we are what In December of twenty twenty five,
we find out about almost five years later that all
the comments about the most secure election in American history
was twenty twenty was a lie and these came out
of one county in one state. In twenty twenty, the

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Democrats believed sink the Bismark, sink the Trumpster by any
means necessary, including lying, cheating, and stealing. Do you honestly
believe that in twenty twenty that Joe Biden received eighty
one million votes, which is fifteen million more votes for
him that were cast for Barack Usain Obama in twenty

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eight or twenty twelve, and millions more than were cast
for Donald Trump in twenty sixteen, and millions more than
cast for Trump in twenty twenty and more votes that
were cast for Donald Trump in twenty twenty four or
Kamala Harris, how much cheating actually took place when one
county and more or less the swing state of Georgia

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should not accounted three hundred and fifteen thousand votes out
of Fulton County, ninety five percent of which were Democratic votes.
Can we go back in time and review the comments
of Raffinsburger and the Democratic Party about that being the
most secure election and American history was twenty twenty? That
was a buld face, unmitigated lie. Let's continue. Whenever stop,

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we simply continue. The fight goes on. We're going to
play for you later. Some cuts. Some Nicki minaj Yeah,
that's right. Nicki Minaje on the Bill Cunningham Show talking
about the sacred aspect of Turning Point USA and her
loving feelings for Donald Trump. This is unbelievable. Let's continue

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with more and line up the calls now, Danny Boy,
Danny Boy. The number to call. We have five lines
open now eight six six six four seven seven three
three seven eight six six six four seven seven three
three seven. Bill Cunningham, the Great American with you every
Sunday night. We're gonna play later some of the cuts

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of Nicki Minaj, the Rapper, African American female that had
had great success and turning point USA Saturday. The rapper
previously partnered with you and Ambassador Mike Waltz. Despite light
Christian persecution and Nigeria, I would note a positive aspect.
The Nigerian government has caused the release of a one

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hundred and forty Catholic school children who were kidnapped by
Boca Haram, offshoot of ISIS, and I pray they return
in good health. But what's happening in Nigeria, in fact
over most of Africa when it comes to the obliteration
of Christianity is truly unbelievable. I know it might be true,

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but I doubt it. I can't think anywhere in the
world today in the last one hundred years were Catholics
and Christians targeted Muslims and Islamic believers for immediate death.
Because if you in Egypt, for example, announce I'm leaving.
I'm leaving the Muslim religion. Ninety five percent of Egyptians

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believe that you should be beheaded immediately. So when Nicki
Minaj talks about Nigeria, what's happened in Christianity in which
the obliteration of that faith is occurring, part of the
Islamic jihad against Christians and Jews believe it the global
Intafada as well underway not just in Australia, but over

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Africa and Asia and in parts of America in which
fifty or so adherent to Muslims has been elected to
one or two political offices, including I might add as
the Mayor of New York City is going to take
power in about ten days. Mom, Donnie and God helped
New York City after that. So Nicki Minaj was introduced
as the surprise surprise Guests by Erica Kirk and they

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discussed the recent realignment of the Trump administration on Christian
persecution in Nigeria, which by the way, has been going
on for about the last seven or eight years and
until Donald Trump took the presidency. Did you hear much
from Joe Biden about Catholics and Christians being tortured, obliterated,
thrown into sexual slavery in Nigeria. Only Donald Trump is

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doing that. And in the past she has certainly supported
Democratic candidates, but she is the utmost respect now for
the Republican administration of Donald Trump, because she says, Donald
Trump and the Republicans are giving hope during these dark times,
and God knows they're dark. So let's continue with more
on the other side. We'll take her telephone calls eight

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six six six four seven seven three three seven, and
she talks about Trump and Vance as one of us.
Is Donald Trump one of you? Do you do you
feel as if we don't deserve to have him as
the president? Did he have to do this at the
age of almost eighty, when he's a multi billionaire, almost
gets shot twice, spills blood for you, and I then

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goes through the crap he goes through almost every day
at the hands of the mainstream media, and somehow he's
not lost touch with the world. He is not and
he's still connected to us. So let's continue with more.
I'll set up tonight's guest later on. We're gonna have
later on Maya Cook, who was a Fox digital analyst.

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She was on handed he quite a bit the last
few weeks to talk about what's happening with the Epstein
tapes and the files and what's happening in Minnesota. Then
later on also is the Great Kendall Teats. Kendall Teats
is a defending education dot Org about the indoctrination of
children in high schools and colleges. And also later on
to Steve gorm about the environment and how the movement

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has collapsed. So if a line becomes available, eight sixty
six six four seven, seven three three seven, And Merry Christmas,
and I'll be with you next Sunday night, but also
Happy New Year, Bill Cunningham, the Great American with you
and all great Americans every Sunday I hit the music.

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Danny Gleason, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you.
And I'm watching ABC News the other night they have
a special and something this must be a sign of
the apocalypse. They had a special about the birth of
Jesus through the Womb of Mary. And I'm thinking about
the think back in time, and I've been to Nazareth,

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and I've been to Bethlehem, and I've been to Jerusalem,
and I thought, and they had a couple of the
hu that were present two thousand years ago. Let's say
you're fourteen years old and your betrothed to a guy
named Joseph from another family. I mean, all of Nazareth
was maybe one to one hundred and fifty total people.

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It was dirty, they were mud huts. Think back to
two thousand years ago, what life would be like for
a girl about thirteen or fourteen years old and your
betrothed to some other family at that point, even to
a large extent today, the family set up the marriage.
And you're an observant Jew, and one afternoon an archangel

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appears to you name Gabriel, and he announces to you,
as a thirteen or fourteen year old girl, that you're
going to be pregnant and that you're going to bear
the Messiah who will be live for eternity, and that
your mission will be to produce that child. And then
she announces to Gabriel that's impossible, I'm a virgin. And

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Gabriel said, the Holy Spirit will cause the pregnancy to occur,
and you will bear the baby and you will call
him Jesus. Now, at that point she had a problem.
Would you agree, because in that culture. If you get
pregnant as a teenage girl and you're not married, most
of the marriages took place at the age of fourteen
or fifteen, you were stoned to death. It wasn't like, oh,

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you had an affair, No, no, no, you were stone
to death. So Mary had a problem. She's thinking, how
do I tell Joseph and my mom and dad and
his mom and dad that I'm pregnant and I'm thirteen
or fourteen years old. Not just I'm pregnant, but the
an archangel appeared to me and said that I'm going

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to deliver the Messiah, and I'm not married and I'm
thirteen or fourteen years old. You got a problem. So
the ARCHANGELI appear then to Joseph and I gave him
what his mission was. Somehow, Joseph then accepted it. Joseph
told his mother and father and Mary he told her
mother and father that I'm delivering the Messiah. At that point,

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there was a story to tell, so she had to
convince her family. The number one, I'm a virgin. Number two,
I'm pregnant. Number three, an archangel appeared to me, and
number four growing inside me is the Messiah. And for
the next two thousand years, he'd be worshiped by billions,
and all of human history will count time from the

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moment of my son's birth. And I'm living in the dirty,
little town of dirt, little town of Nazareth and Judea,
Who's going to believe this story? The answer is they believed,
and they kept the secret. They had a quiet ceremony,
they quickly got married, and then the rest, shall we say,
his history ended up going to Bethlehem, no more or

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less register as required to do. By the way, there's
no Motel sixes. There was none of that going on
at the time. There were other families that would take
in the travelers, and so Joe his families had connections
in Bethlehem for the baby Jesus. Did not know that
Baby Jesus would be born there to tell friends and family.

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Number one, I'm a virgin. Number two, I'm pregnant. Number three,
an angel and the Holy Spirit made me pregnant. And
number four, I'm pregnant with the Son of God. How
would you handle that?

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Well?

Speaker 1 (23:22):
They handled it quite well. And the rest, shall we say,
is history. Well, let's continue. I want to ask you
this question tonight. If you had to make one prediction
good or bad that's going to happen in twenty twenty six.
What would it be. I'll give you my prediction. The
economy's going to rip and roar, that Venezuela Madora will

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eventually leave, that Putin will seek peace in Ukraine fearing
Donald Trump. That Iran will be devastated by a terrible drought,
and that Jijauping will not invade Taiwan because of Donald Trump.
The economy or rip, roar, and the Republicans will keep
the House in the Senate in twenty twenty six. That's
my prediction. What is your prediction? Number to call eight

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sixty six six four seven seven three three seven, and
I'll give each caller about thirty seconds to a minute.
If you get on the line, We'll take your call
tonight to give me your prediction for the year twenty
twenty six, as Danny Gleeson will line up the calls.
First calls will be from Connecticut, Florida and Colorado. Now,
uh Saturday, Nicki Minaj the Rapper take about two minutes

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appeared with Turning Point USA and Erica Kirk. It was like,
are you kidding me? Is this the moment at which
we're going to realize that younger Americans will listen to
a Stephen A Smith or a Nicki Minaje and not
to what they hear in the CBS Evening News Danny
Boy hit it.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
You know, interestingly enough, people have been even Christians have
been being persecuted right here in our country in different ways.
So when we talk about Nigeria and other countries, know
that prior administrations saw nothing wrong with that, and that's

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what was wrong with them. I truly feel that there
are people out there who felt good about chastising Christians

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right here in our country, and it's kind of really,
really sick. We can't let people like that be in power,
you guys.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
That's the truth.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
I can sugar coat it and laugh and kiki, but
the truth is I am here today to tell you, you guys,
that we absolutely cannot let people who have a problem
with us worshiping God. We cannot have them in power.

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We cannot have them in power. All you have to
do is look at what is happening in other places
in the world, look at what is being done to
Christians all around the world, and ask yourself why people
in this country that were in positions of power, felt

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so comfortable too try to take our voices from us.
They were that afraid, They are that intimidated, They are
that insecure, They are that small inside that hearing us

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and seeing us worship God irritated them. Our spirit irritates
them because when we speak, they get shown up. When
the truth walks in the room. The lies hide. They

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don't come out willingly. You got a pry it out
of them. They hide because they don't want you or
anyone to know who they really are behind closed doors,
because even they know how evil it is to try
to deprive people of worshiping God.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
You think about the Catholic President, Joe Biden, the Catholic
Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, could not have cared
less about what's happening to Catholics and Christians and Nigeria.
Throughout the entire world, including Somalia. There's no Christian country
that's executing Muslims, but Muslim countries execute Christians all the time.

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Let's go to your calls line becomes available eight sixty
six six four seven seven three three seven. Let's go
to Steven Colorado and then Wayne and then or Dwayne
and then Edward and Steve and Colorado Springs. Welcome to
the Bill Cunningham Show. And Steve, what do you got.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
Hey?

Speaker 6 (28:20):
I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
The economy is going to get better.

Speaker 7 (28:22):
I agree the Republicans will do fine in the midterms
as long as we keep a lid on the cheating
and keep the Department of Justice, and everybody has to
hold their feet to the fire so they can't squirm
around and throw out the Republican observers and cheat on

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all the mail in ballots like they do here in Colorado.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
And it takes.

Speaker 7 (28:49):
A trained carpenter to build one. And the only thing
the Democrats are going to have is some kind of
watch out for it. They'd love to sabotage Trump's economy
and did they did it the first time with COVID,
And they're going to come up with something some kind
of crisis, is some kind of big lie, and it
might be pretty ridiculous because they're so desperate now, they're

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like desperate rats. But that's the only thing they can
do is try to ruin Trump's beautiful economy He's working
so hard to build.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Stay do you think the Democrats wish America?

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Well?

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Do you think or you think the Democrats maybe in
January thirty, it is about five weeks from now. They're
going to shut down the economy again and then blame Trump.
He went through about a forty three day but what
six seven weeks and that took about a trillion trillion
dollars off the American economy. And they want to do
that again because they want to destroy Yeah, judo move

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they do.

Speaker 7 (29:47):
They're going to try to do a Judo move and
make it look like Trump's it's Trump's fault that the
healthcare system is collapsing, when all it is is Obamacare collapsing,
and it was all their stupid ideas. It was all
ill founded anyway, Obamacare.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
It was Obamacare was designed to fail. And when it
was failing, thank god from the Democratic perspective, that COVID
came along and that gave the opportunity to prop up
the system. And it's failed right now. And basically, deductibilities
are five to ten thousand dollars each. Insurance premiums have
gone up seventeen hundred percent. Remember Obama, I wish we

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have that sum. We'll play at some point. If you
like your plan, keep your plan, like your doctor keep
your doctor premiums. Yearly, we'll go down on average by
twenty five hundred dollars a year per family. Is going
to reduce the deficit. Those lies were heaped upon lies,
and we believe the lies because Obama was saying it.
But Democrats voted one hu percent for it, Republicans voted

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one hundred percent against it. And who's the blame right now?
It's Donald Trump and the Republicans and Obamacare is their
plan that's failed, and Trump and the Democrats are Republicans
are trying to save it. So go back. We have thousands,
got to get some more calls. And is it Dwayne
in Connecticut? Is that correct?

Speaker 8 (31:04):
That is correct?

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Give me a comment or two.

Speaker 8 (31:09):
Hey Bill, how are you today?

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Merry Christmas and happy New Year?

Speaker 8 (31:14):
Great? Hey, listen, I want to go back to what
you said about the twenty twenty election. I taught listen,
I talked to God again. It goes with the God thing.
And he says, because I'm throwing stuff at the TV,
I'm crying. My wife hates me for all of this.
And you know what I heard.

Speaker 9 (31:33):
He told me.

Speaker 8 (31:33):
He says, watch four years of hell, and we did.
We went to it. All, we went for four years
of hell and looked and then the economy and everything's
got fixed up again when it could have been.

Speaker 6 (31:47):
Eight years of glory.

Speaker 8 (31:49):
And the thing is all.

Speaker 9 (31:51):
These migrants coming into the country, okay, and everybody thinks
it's for voting, when really it's census to fill up
all these called blue states with immigrants so they could
get money from the federal Gummer, Am I right?

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Well, I look at Minnesota. You know Medicare, Medicaid is
about fifty percent Feds about fifty percent in the state.
The fraud in Minnesota was about eighteen billion dollars cost
Minnesota's about nine billion cost us. But more importantly, they
monetize criminality by an immigrant group, and to criticize it

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as racism. It's not racist if someone's acting criminally, call
them out irrespective of race. If you use race not
to call them out, hell, that's racism by itself. Hold
everybody the same election standard. And how do these Democrats
get into office, like Nancy Pelosi or like elon Omar
oh No and or Congressman Waters And all of a

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sudden they go in a little bit of money to
come out worth tens of millions of dollars. How's that
possible unless they're cheating. And I think Harry Truman said
if a politicians and office enhancing their their own value,
they're cheating. And right now we have large numbers of
Democrats that are monetizing their office and blaming others for
their crimes, and we should not have to put up

(33:09):
with it.

Speaker 6 (33:10):
So I'll come this administration before hasn't been arrested for treason,
and I.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Head on as on my daytime show. I had on
a congressman a few days ago that said he wants
to see somebody go to jail. At some point, someone's
got to go to jail or a Democrats for the
felonies they committed. And I hope it's out of South Florida.
There's an investigation underway there, and I hope something happens
with Komy and with Obama and with Biden, and with Clapper,

(33:39):
and with and Brennan who set up the false intelligence
report which was the basis of the impeachment. I'm told
that's going to happen in the first quarter of next year.
It would be a great thing if Barack Hussein, Obama,
and Joe Biden are indicted I'm not sure they can
be convicted because they're president, so to speak. We will
see what the US Supreme Court says. But he said

(34:01):
to me, somebody's got to go to jail. Who are Democrats?
And all I can say is God, bless you. Thanks
for your call from Connecticut. Let's take a short break,
come back on the other side. Bill Cunningham, with you
every Sunday night. Sorry, Danny boy, Danny Boy. A couple

(34:25):
of other last items early Sunday, which is this morning.
Deputy Attorney General at Todd Blanche, I like that guy said.
The removal of Donald Trump's photos had nothing to do
with the President's involvement with young girls or women at
the behest of Jeffrey Epstein, was instead driven by concerns

(34:47):
for the women depicted whether they wanted their pictures out.
About two hours ago, according to this media account that
the photos have now been released of Donald Trump, US
Department of Justice said quote, it has restored photos featuring
President Donald Trump and the latest release of Jeffrey Epstein

(35:08):
related documents after a review determined the image had not
depict any Epstein victims. Of course, because we know, According
to the Department of Justice, Todd Blanche. More than two
hundred attorneys in the Department of Justice dropped everything they
were doing and were parceled out thousands of pages I said,

(35:32):
thousands of pages of depositions, documents, grand jury witness statements, etc.
To review. They dropped two hundred lawyers in Washington drop
what they were doing and said, get to work. There
was about a million pages. We have two hundred and
some lawyers. That's like reading a book every few hours
and determine if there's anything in there that should not

(35:53):
be released pursuing to other federal laws. And they released
a whole bunch and they had redactions, and now they're
getting rid of the reductions. So where would the Democrats
go from here? I have no idea, But I began
about an hour ago talking about what happened to the
state of Georgia when three hundred and fifteen thousand votes

(36:13):
out of Fulton County should not have been counted in
the twenty twenty election because they weren't tabulated correctly. The
tapes did not have signatures, and it was a lie. Obviously,
John Osoff would not be in the Senate right now
if these facts were known in twenty twenty and Donald
Trump easily would have won the state of Georgia. I'd

(36:36):
have to wonder, and by the way, the elections officials
in Georgia agree with that. I'd have to wonder how
many other states had similar problems that have not been
identified yet. Mail and ballots are sent all over the
country to individuals, and who's voting. Nobody knows. That's why
mail and ballots are ripe with fraud. So let's continue

(36:58):
with more. Coming up first will be Maya Cook. She's
with the Department, hasband with the DOJ and terrorism cases.
She's a Fox News contributor and she was on with
Fox News earlier this week. I want to talk to
her about what happened in the Brown University. By the way,
it is not racist if you call Brown University brown university,

(37:22):
because one of the specialists in Brown said, if you
say the Brown killer, that's unfair to Brown people. That's
the kind of crap that goes on at Brown University,
which hopefully will collapse into a ball of pity. So
let's continue with more and later on also we'll be
Kendall teets a defending Education dot org, etc. By the way,
once again, as we continue, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

(37:45):
Bill cunning in the Great American with you every Sunday.

Speaker 10 (37:48):
Night, Willie.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
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Speaker 1 (38:39):
And May Cook. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
And first of all, let's deal just a little bit
about the Epstein files, which sickens me because I've had
it up to here. Other than the Kennedy assassination, this
has been the most investigated criminal case in the history
of America, going back from twenty to twenty five years.
Most of the victims, and I'm sure there are victims,

(39:01):
have been paid millions and millions of dollars. Because of
banks and insurance companies and brokerage firms, et cetera. More
lawsuits have been filed on their behalf. The more has released,
the more has known, the more the media covers that
can you tell me, you're kind of like a female
type person. I have a wife, I have a sister,
I have a granddaughter. Sexual assault, sexual rape. I've handled

(39:24):
maybe twenty to twenty five rape cases, and my professional
life is a criminal offense attorney, and there should be coverage.
Have you noticed the lack of proportionality of the coverage
of this compared to what's happening with immigrant crime happening
all over the country. Have you noticed that?

Speaker 11 (39:40):
Have you noticed the difference bill one hundred percent? The
media is so obsessed with the Epstein fil relief that
they forgot their first job was transparency to the American people.
And what Americans should be realizing today is that we
had the worst border crisis in the history of America
under Joe Biden's open border rapes, incest, people being just

(40:06):
mulled on the street, attacked, ice officers being attacked today,
and that's what we should be focused on.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
The rule of law.

Speaker 11 (40:13):
And the rule of law actually worked in Epstein as well,
but the media refused us to cover it. You know,
the Trump administration gave unprecedented support for transparency. Even after
Joe Biden declined to make these files public. The media
never covers that when we talk about Epstein, the first
Trump administration was actually prosecuting Jeffrey Epstein for HAINUS crimes.

(40:33):
Obama declined, Biden didn't do anything. And now you have
the DOJ redacting and releasing files because there has been
rape of miners. If these miners want to come out
and talk about this bill, by all means, but the
DOJ must be careful because there's legal precedence on what
you can and can't release today. And we're looking at
thousands of pages of material, and every single time the

(40:57):
Democrats get their hands on this, they select give the
media and the public information so that there is a
massive miscarriage of justice. Nobody's talking about the fact that
Bill Clinton is all over the Fteam files. I mean,
Hillary's hiding right now.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Can you imagine if they had Donald Trump in crime?
Can you imagine if they had Donald Trump in a
hot tub with a bunch of seemingly half naked or
naked women and he's all the media would melt down.
And I watched Todd Blanche the Deputy ag, on a
lot of talk shows this morning. He gave me some numbers.
He said, there's about a million pages of documents. I said,

(41:35):
a million pages between Florida, Washington, and New York, which
includes grand jury testimony, depositions from all the various lawyers
suing individuals for money for their clients and if they
were sexually abused and someone's responsible, they should be paid,
the grand jury stuff, all the Southern District of New
York information. And he said, we took over two hundred

(41:58):
assistant ages, and we told these two hundred people to
drop what you're doing in the AG's office, stop what
you're doing, and start reading and analyzing a million pages
and get it done within the next thirty days. That
would be about thirty five thousand pages per day, seven
days a week. And he's saying, look, I can't release

(42:20):
information about victims' names without their permission, especially if they're juveniles.
I can't do that. There's privileged information between lawyers and
clients I can't release. And before we go through the process,
each time something is flagged, we have a committee of
senior attorneys in the AG's office that have dropped what
they're doing to review whether or not to release it

(42:42):
or not. And so Todd Bland said today removing the
photos from Epstein files had nothing to do with Donald Trump.
But we can't simply put on the public record one thousand,
a million pages of this stuff because it would violate
other federal laws. But the media and the Democrats well
and accept that. Sadly, Rocanna and my friend Tom Massey

(43:04):
from Northern Kentucky, they now want to hold Pam Bondi
in contempt of Congress. What's up with that?

Speaker 11 (43:12):
Well, where were they with Joe Biden? I mean, Joe
Biden sat on these files. If there was really files
or photographs of President Trump, they would have been released. Remember,
the Democrats were in charge for four years. The fact
that we're finally releasing files that being stopful and redacting
just tells you everything about our justice system. They're not

(43:33):
weaponizing the justice system. They're actually protecting survivors. They're protecting victims,
and they're protecting young girls that were molested and raped
by this evil man. And of course there's thousands of
pages of documents though this scandal, the scheme went on
for decades and we're finally getting transparency. And what bothers

(43:54):
me today is people like Rokanna, where were they under
Joe Biden? These are the same politics today's a merry
go around. It's the same people that stand there and
jump up and down for accountability when you have President Trump,
But they weren't saying anything under Joe Biden. I think
the hypocrisy is sickening. And if they really care about victims,
then let's talk about Lake and Riley. Let's talk about

(44:16):
all the young women that have been raped at the
hands of illegal immigrants. But these same Democrats turn their
backs on us and continue to vilify ice. Who are
the bravest soldiers, in my opinions, the bravest law enforcement
officers in the country. Where are they defending that?

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Yeah, I watch what happened in Portland. They finally arrested
some transgender and ANTIFA outfit punched a sergeant. He got arrested.
Of course he's out on Bonni immediately. But what's happening now,
I think is that this is takeing. The coverage has
taken the place of objectively covering the successes of the
Trump administration. It's been politicized by the media and a

(44:55):
few Republicans, so they don't talk about the success of
the economy. What's happening of Venezuela, what's happened on the
southern border, it takes the place of it. And as
far as Senator Kine, the VP nominee with Hillary Clinton,
thank god he didn't win. He's now calling for Bill
Clinton should address the photos of himself being in these

(45:15):
photos and compromising positions. Also, there's a big paint, a
painting of Bill Clinton in a blue dress in private
quarters of Jeffrey Epstein. And right now you can't find
Bill Clinton with a search warrant. And to me, it's sickening.
We know as lawyers, as a civil aspect and a
criminal aspect. In twenty seventeen, eighteen, and nineteen, under who

(45:39):
Donald Trump, the Southern District of New York launched a
full scale, multi month, a year and a half investigation
of Julane Maxwell and also Jeffrey Epstein. And they believed
there were lots of men who could be indicted. And
I've watched more than one US attorney say that we
indicted the only two people people that had criminal liabilities,

(46:02):
and those were Jeffrey Epstein and Julane Maxwell. We did
not indict anyone else. No one else had a criminal
a connection to the case. And I replayed it. I
watched it again about two or three hours ago. And
so is it possible that this whole thing, because after all,
Maxwell was sent to prison for twenty years for trafficking

(46:25):
young girls to men. I like to know who are
the men I keep I watch all these interviews on
MS now and CNN and some on Fox about the survivors.
I want to know other than the one time Prince
Andrew was identified by Roberts Jeffrey, she identified Prince Andrew,

(46:46):
and other than that. And you watched the media, hope
as much as I do, as any of these victims
on TV said this man raped me. This is the guy.
Even if you're a twenty year old woman, if you're
being trafficked, that's a crime. So are you aware of
any of these women in public way who've said this
is the guy that did it to me?

Speaker 11 (47:05):
And if not, why, Look, I've heard some allegations from
some of the women who have named individuals, and I
think that this is where the Department of Justice has
to work with these victims. If I was over there
right now, I would say start naming them, start talking
to the victims, and go to them one by one
and ask them, do you want to prosecute. We will

(47:27):
be with you every step of the way. I think
that's the way to create transparency. The DOJ has all
the power today. They can raise their hands and say
I am with you. Victims, contact us, set up a
new email address, and let's go. Because these men are sick.
They need to be held accountable. And remember, titles don't
transcend the law. So Bill Clinton, if I believe he

(47:50):
is one of these men, he should be prosecuted. I
don't care if he was the ex president, I don't
care if he's the janitor. He needs to be prosecuted
because these young women should have never gone through that victimization.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Well, let's do it. And I'm waiting for something to
shoe to drop, and uh, let's move on to Part two.
Media complicit blamed as FED say, Minnesota fraud crisis could
reach I said nine billion dollars, nine billion dollars. And
I'm thinking at this point, how does Keith Allison, who's

(48:22):
running for reelection next year, the AG Tim Waltz running
for re election next year, and the mayor of Minneapolis,
Fred just got elected a month or so ago. And this,
this article in Fox News makes the point that there's
supposedly one great newspaper in the Minneapolis area that covers
the entire state, and that one newspaper has been silent

(48:43):
loathed these many months because they're not doing their job
because the editor used to work for Tim Waltz and
so kind of layout. How in Minneapolis practically did they
loot the treasury for nine billion dollars? How did it work?

Speaker 11 (49:00):
Look, I think this was a scandal that was very easy.
The Somalian population and have several others came in and
they started targeting handout programs, and so you look at it. Actually,
I'm looking at numbers. It's approximately eighteen billion dollars in
federal funds were expended on fourteen Minnesota run program since

(49:22):
twenty eighteen, and they were fraudulently obtained. These funds were
meant for services like child nutrition, housing stabilization, autism care,
disability support. But evidence shows that many payments were tied
to fabricated claims or shell entities. And this was reported
over and over again by auditors and whistleblowers, and Tim

(49:43):
Walts knew, and he looked the other way because guess what,
people yelled the our word racist. The minute you yell
racists in America today, people without a backbone, Democrats frumble,
so they decided to look the other way. And a
major piece of this controversy stem from this now default
nonprofit Feeding Our Future. It's the largest COVID nineteen pandemic

(50:05):
era frot scheme in US history, and it was specifically
to help feed children. And they set up these fake
accounts and the number of children they were supposedly feeding
went up exponentially, And this is exactly why auditors said
this is not possible. But Tim Waltz turned his back.
And let me tell you, the media is not covering this,

(50:25):
and the newspapers are not covering it because they're in
bed with Democrats today. And this is exactly why people
listen to your radio program or people online that have
podcasts today, because we don't trust the media. We're continue
to lie, They continue to lie and gaslight us. I
think after they told us, Joe Biden was sharp as
attacked and then got on national television and President Bump

(50:47):
didn't know what the hell he was saying. We knew,
we knew that we were being lied to. We don't
trust anybody anymore. Remember get the jab it's going to
protect you. I mean, we are in such a state
of panic today when we're told trust us, we don't.
We don't trust the government. They're not here to help us.
They need to get out.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Of our way.

Speaker 11 (51:04):
And Tim Walts needs to be fired.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Well, the Minnesota Star Tribune masquerades as a newspaper, it's
really a fish wrapper. It's really the high news twist
effects don't cover it. And in this case about the
eighteen billion dollar fraud, about half of it's federal, about
half of its state, which where we get the nine
billion number. It appears that's been going on for many years,
maybe ten years. And you have congress people like elan

(51:30):
Omar that goes from sixty thousand dollars a net worth
according to our federal forms, to about thirty million dollars.
She obviously is getting help. And you have numerous other
circumstances in which those public officials that should be the
whistleblowers turned into recipients of the crime. And in this case,
there was four hundred Minnesota state employees who blew the

(51:54):
whistle on Tim Waltz in these programs, and many of
them were fired because they didn't stay within the line
of command. The shanty Command and they were fired. So
if you work for the state of Minnesota, it's a
one company town and you can't jump out a line.
And to me, it's going to be shocking if they
get re elected next year, which is entirely possible. Now, lastly,

(52:15):
it's come out that from the State of Georgia that
Fulton County had about three hundred thousand or so ballots
that should not have been counted, and that somehow it appears,
according to Rafsenberger, that in the last election, that three
hundred thousand ballots suddenly found themselves shall we say that

(52:36):
should not have been counted? I can look back to
what happened with Donald Trump when he said to Rafsenberger
in twenty twenty we need to find eleven thousand, seven
and sixty five votes. And if you you know, he
didn't say illicitly or wrongfully, he said they got to
be there somewhere and we can't find them. So isn't
it isn't it rich that in twenty twenty four out

(52:57):
of Fulton County that there was three hundred thousand so
votes that should not have been counted. That was that
changed elections up and down the ladder. What do you
think about that one?

Speaker 11 (53:08):
Well, I'm not surprised today. I mean, ask yourself, what
where do you go and vote as an American citizen.
I don't care what state you're in, where you have
to prove citizenship, they ask you for your last four
digits of your Social Security and the majority of the
states to even register to vote. So when President Trump
challenged the election results in twenty twenty to ask how

(53:29):
is this possible? Find me the vote people? What after
him for insurrection? I think the worst thing in history
is not to be able to challenge our voting laws
or to ask if the results are accurate. We need
paper ballots today. We need to stop this nonsense about
voting for two weeks and ballot harvesting and whatever is
happening in America. States can't handle their elections. As much

(53:51):
as I want states to be the commander in chief,
when it comes to how we do this, it has
been so It's been so wrongly done every single state,
including Ohio. I mean, we have fraud here. The fact
that election officials do not mandate show me citizenship, show
me your passport, show me proof tells you everything you

(54:11):
need to know. The system has been rigged against US citizens.
We no longer matter in this election process, and until
we don't fix it, we're going to continue to challenge
elections and continue to wonder did we win or did
we lose?

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Now, I'm always amazed that one of the worst campaigns
ever run by any candidate in the past one hundred
years was in twenty twenty when Joe Biden, from his basement,
ran a campaign and somehow implausibly, he received eighty one
million votes. Joe Biden twenty twenty against eighty one million votes,
which is fifteen million more votes than Barack Hussein Obama

(54:50):
received and twenty eight And so you cannot tell or
end twenty twelve, you can't tell me that Joe Biden
ran a great campaign, unbelievable campaign in twenty twenty, got
fifteen million more votes than Obama. And I have to
think that Fulton County is the tip of the iceberg

(55:11):
when it comes to fraud. It's probably happening almost everywhere. Well,
once again, we got to run. I could talk to
you all evening. Can't do it, and we'll do it again.
But may you and yours may I cook have a
wonderful twenty six. Let's keep an eye on the fraud,
keep an eye on the looting and the treasury. And
thank God. I often say, Meg, we're blessed to have

(55:31):
Trump in the White House. Many times I don't think
we deserve to have him there. We're not good enough.
But may I Cook have a merry Christmas and happy
New Year. And thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Meg,
thank you very.

Speaker 11 (55:42):
Much, Thank you you too.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
God bless America. How in the world, How in the
world can Fulton County miscount by hundreds of thousand ballots
in twenty twenty four? How's that possible? Bill Cunningham, the
Great American with you every Sunday night, Billy cunning under

(56:06):
grant in America. And I see great things in the
future for Maya Cook. But she makes a lot of sense.
She was born in India, made in America, came here legally.
And some of the most strident individuals who say we
should follow the law and not be so generous with
welfare are those who come into the country. May I
use the term legally, and those like Maya Cook that

(56:27):
wants the rule of law to be followed. When it's
not followed whether it's Minnesota, Ohio, or California that's going
to have six and eight dollars a gallon gas and
now can't keep the lights turned on in San Francisco.
The media should cover these stories just a little bit,
would you agree? Coming up next to Kendall Teets of
Defending Education, she's done some work on what's happening in

(56:47):
the public school system, and I read her column. It
was wonderful stuff. This is what happens at Brown University
when millions and millions and millions are spent on academic professors,
and little or no money you spent on recording devices
or cameras to keep the student safe. Why would any knowing,
thoughtful mom or dad ever send their kid, especially a female,

(57:11):
to an Ivy League school that has such low, impossible
standards and teaches Marxism and demands anti Semitism of its
own students. You send away a bright kid, come back
if someone with three colored hair and a nosering don't
do it. You can think about it, but don't do it.
Bill cunning In the Great American with you every Sunday.

(57:38):
Bill Cunningham, the Great American. When I look at the
history of American race, relations. Most of the difficulties have
come to the left. Going back one to two hundred years,
the Democratic Party used black folks as slaves, and then
after the Civil War, after the Republican Party freed the slaves,
guess what happened next is that the Democratic Party in
the South said, you know what, let's have the Kuku clan.

(58:00):
And after that failed miserably because Republicans opposed to Going
up to the nineteen thirties to forties, the black folks
were denied entrance into the regular military by the Democratic Party.
Then in nineteen sixty four and sixty five, the Civil
Rights Acts all passed because of the Republican Party said
enough is enough. And so you thought that racially discriminatory

(58:21):
segregated classes, for example in school after Brown versus Board
of Education would be concluded, But that's not the case.
In fact, there's a new segregation happening in public schools,
and it's happening mainly in blue cities, blue states, like
in New York City and Los Angeles, Chicago, but also
happening in Minneapolis. And joining you nine now is Kendall Teats.

(58:42):
She's an investigative reporter for defending education and she's focusing
now in Minnesota, many other states, lots of work to
do in Kendall teats, I think for the first time,
welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. So describe the formula
Minneapolis schools. Public schools are now using to use race
based decisions when it came the students who should not
be race based. Tell what's going Tell the American people

(59:04):
what's happening in Minnesota.

Speaker 9 (59:07):
Right.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
So, Minnesota's been in the news recently, as you know,
but something that hasn't been covered is really just Minnesota's
leftward shift in education. So it's become one of the
most aggressive states in reshaping education. So we can discuss
Minneapolis public schools, they have had racially segregated classes, and
I can get into some of the specifics on that,

(59:29):
but we really document in the state wide leftward shift,
and it really is a civil rights crisis. So you've
got grant opportunities coming down from the state at the
government level that are race based. You also have ethnic studies,
which is going to be required by every high school
offered that they require it by twenty twenty six. So

(59:51):
there are lots of examples across the state where race
has been a factor, and we've really been documenting that.
But to go back to your question about what's going
on specifically in Minneapolis public schools, they have racially segregated classes,
which would be a violation of you know, Title six

(01:00:12):
and the cool Protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. In
response spending education in October, file the civil Rights complaint
with the US Department of Education over these racially segregated classes.
And like you said, I mean, we settled this in
nineteen fifty four in Brown versus Board of Education, the
Supreme Court made it clear that segregating students by race

(01:00:33):
in public schools is unconstitutional. It's truly as simple as that. So,
you know, this is this class, these classes that are
being offered, they really do appear to be only open
to black students, which is obviously unconstitutional. In the same
school district, they have a required Ethnic studies course that

(01:00:53):
centers around structural analysis of racism and colonialism. Kind of
just goes back to this race based teachinging, you know,
direct students to challenge the white figure narrative. So these
your ideas that are being taught to the most impressionable
minds at the K through twelve level, and like you said,
at a public school district.

Speaker 6 (01:01:13):
This is not this is not a private school Kendall Tits.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
So are they so outwardly racist for the Democrats to say,
black kids you go in this class, white kids are
brown kids, you go in that class? Or do they
couch it in such a way as to hide the
races and the Democratic Party practices because it benefits them.
How specific are they If you're in the third grade
and you still can't read, I don't care if you're white, black,

(01:01:39):
or polka? Doont government ought to be saying you can't
go to the fourth grade unless you can read social promotion?
How specifically are these blue city, blue state schools and
explicitly excluding children, not adults, much less children based up
on skin color. Give me a concrete example.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Yeah, like I said, you have multiple classes in high
schools across Minneapolis public schools that do feature regular, regular
or sorry, racially segregated classes that appear to be limited
by race. You can see the specifics of those classes
on our website defending ed dot org. As far as

(01:02:19):
this ethnic studies course, I mean, they cite critical race
theory that is completely based on race. It promotes the
ideas of coral Marx and pedals. The notion and this
is documented as well on our website that capitalism and
Western culture are to blame for slavery, genocide, colonialism, and

(01:02:41):
white supremacy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
And you know this isn't it's amazing that America and Europe,
specifically England stopped a slavery. They didn't keep it going,
they stopped it. There were thousands and thousands of British
sailors who were killed on ships stopping the slave trade.
America stopped racism and pursuing into slavery. Other countries all

(01:03:05):
over the world continued it. And you have in your
column teachers ask students quote challenge the white savior narrative
and they have to complete a youth led participatory action
research project that pushes them into activism. So you can't
teach reading, writing, and arithmetic. Well, so let's move on
to targeting white children that are in the third and

(01:03:26):
fourth and fifth grade about their privilege and about the
savior narrative. How corrosive is that to the white kids
they have to hear this crap.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Well, it's corrosive to the white kids. And not to
mention it's also corrosive.

Speaker 11 (01:03:39):
To the black kids.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
If you are sitting in class and you're getting told
that because you happen to be white and immutable characteristic,
you are an oppressor, and if you happen to be black,
you're oppressed.

Speaker 11 (01:03:52):
So you're basically.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
Told from the outset that you know, the authors stocked
against you because of your skin color. It's not I
don't think, like you said, what America was founded on,
and that should not be something that you know, we're
teaching our kids, and you know, I just one more
example I think is really important to point out is
Minnesota at the state level, has teacher licensing framework. They

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call them the Standards of Effective Practice that have a
requirement that teachers talk about racial consciousness and reflection, and
it includes training on how you know light supremacy undermines
pedagogical equity. And that sounds like a bunch of random
words slap together, but there is meaning underlying all of that,

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and they want to make sure that race is the
underpinning for anything that teachers are teaching in the public
school system.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
So you fail when you teach the basics of academic
excellence and then you go into indoctrination of children that
are quite impressionable. You also have Minnesota's fighting the Trump
administration's quote gender ideology and sports ban. You're like a
and type person. And Title nine was in there to
give girls high school, grade school, and college and later

(01:05:06):
on equal opportunity to money when it comes to scholarships,
et cetera. So explain what this is about gender ideology
in Minnesota, which is all over the Blue cities and
Blue states, and sports fan that allows men to pretend
as if they're women, boys as if they're girls, to
play women's sports. What is gender ideology? What are we

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talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
Well, when we say gender ideology, we mean instances where
you know, progressives believe that males who identify as females
to be able to play in female sports, use female
locker rooms, use female restrooms. And at the state level,
you know, the Trump administration has put down executive orders
that fight against policies like that or sports bands and

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the examples of you know, biological men wanting to play
in women's sports, and we believe that those are unlawful
rewrites nine, which, like you said, we're put out to
help women and girls. That is what Title nine is about.
So you really just flipped the purpose of titlemine on
its head when you're allowing biological men who might identify

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as girls sure playing in their sports. And you know,
at the same time we have we documented a group
of school board candidates under the banner of the name
Gender Justice. They published a joint initiative supporting the full
inclusion of transgender and nine non binary students in school athletics,

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which they claim that Title nine protects. So at its
core here is really just the push and the pull
of what Title nine means. I think it's pretty obvious
what Title nine says. It's protecting women and girls, but
progressive in this instance, school board candidates are really just
flipping it on its head and saying that, you know,
this is this includes the full inclusion of transgender and

(01:06:59):
non binary students, which is just you know, specifically in
school athletics. I think that that is an extremely unpopular issue.
That is eight and ten Americans don't think that a
biological man should be participating.

Speaker 11 (01:07:13):
In women's sports.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
How about this one? In your column defending education dot Org.
Normally your racial discrimination is not so public, but in Minnesota,
which I'm sure is the same thing in many urban districts.
In Chicago public schools, in Los Angeles public schools, they
have a form you fill out as to how you
want to be identified, and you have to be he she,

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they them, And that's got eighty or ninety categories. And
we're asking an eight year old girl to identify and
has to read exactly the one hundred and five categories
of gender to determine which I fit in. But you
point out that the Minnesota Department of Education has a
grant worth nine point four million. It's opened to universities
and explicitly focused on quote increasing licensed school psychologists, nurses,

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and school counselors and skill social workers of color and indigenous.
So they simply put out effectively, it says it that
in order to get this money, you have to you
have to be black, I guess Hispanic and or maybe
an Indian. Can I say Indian? I'm not sure? But
what In other words, if you're a white female, a

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white or a white male, you can't get the money. Normally,
the racism of the Democrat Party is not so explicit,
but here it is. And if you point out this
effectively excludes all who are not black indigenous, or people
of color, and on its surface, it violates Title six
of the Civil Rights Actor, which prohibbits discrimination on the

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basis of race, color, and national origin. And Tim Watson, Minnesota,
I guess, Keith Allison, the ag they're saying, we're going
to violate the law and keep practicing racism. Do I
have that right? You got me all urine in and
off right now?

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
Oh? Yes, No, that's exactly right. And you know there's
multiple instances of grants and programs top down from the
Minnesota Department of Education in the government that set out
these rules about how teachers need to be licensed, how
they need to recruit teachers, and this money really goes

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towards certain people, and this is effectively excluding those who
are not BIPOC as they say, black Indigenous people of color.
And as you correctly point out, this appears.

Speaker 12 (01:09:32):
To be a violation of Title thinks.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Of the Civil Right Gus, I'm looking is that? Well,
you know, I'm a lawyer of been inn ag in Ohio,
and I'm thinking it looks to me like it does.
You also point out there's an administrative rule in Minnesota,
standards of effective practice teachers must meet to be licensed.
So if you're a teacher and you want to be licensed,
the standard on Racial Consciousness and Reflection requires teachers to

(01:09:57):
understand how focentrism, you're a centrism, Ism, deficit based deficits,
white supremacy undermine equity. So to get licensed to be
a teacher, you got to check the box saying yes,
I'm a racist, Yes I have benefit. My skin color
is wrong. I understand what I've got and because the

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way I was born, I'm not as good as someone
a person of color. Do I have that right that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
That is correct? You know?

Speaker 11 (01:10:27):
These are these are these are teacher licensure requirements.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
And you know, as I mentioned before, it sounds like
a bunch of random words strung together, but there is
meaning behind that. It's basically blaming white supremacy for undermining
quote pedagogical equity. That just means white supremacy is to
blame for bad outcomes when it comes to maybe black students,
and you know, all roads in their mind apparently lead

(01:10:54):
back to white supremacy. That's what to blame is to
blame if you know certain students are not doing as
well as others, and I think that, you know, I mean,
we could keep going with these examples. You have a
statewide grow your Own program and that's you know about
recruiting district employees to become licensed teachers. But it requires

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any district applying to have at least thirty percent students
of color, and if they don't reach that thirty percent threshold,
they're just not eligible for the grant.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
So these are all public money.

Speaker 12 (01:11:25):
Imposed, Yeah, exactly, it's they impose these race based stipulations
that you know, determine how grant money from the government
is allocated and who can participate.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Well, this is blatant racism. Of course, the party practicing
and benefits and in a sense, because the Democratic parties
made the decision that we're going to appeal and apply
racist principles that they've done since they're founding in the
nineteenth century, in order to gin up a particular racial

(01:11:58):
group to vote for us. To look at all the
benefits we give you, and so many white liberals, especially
white liberal females, simply bow their head at the altar
of dei, which is dee, and they bow their heads saying, yes,
we have to in order to be licensed as a teacher,
I must practice racism against white students. And others, And

(01:12:19):
I can only imagine what's happening in the major cities
in this country. When the Democratic Party stops benefiting from racism,
that's when things are going to change. I doubt it will.
And race based licensing, grant programs and teachers that are
lying to their students in a world, Then what happens
when these kids get out and the white kids grow
up thinking I'm a marching Marxist. I don't like this

(01:12:41):
country anymore. I can't imagine some little boy or girl
in the Minnesota school and the same thing applies in
almost every blue city, blue state that I come out
thinking I've done a lot wrong in my life because
of the color of my skin. And the only way
for me tosolve myself a blame is to be a
liberal Democrat, to march around officials, make a fool of myself,

(01:13:02):
and as a consequence, I'll pay the penance. Well, good luck, Kendall, teacher,
you're at this, You're at a reporter for defending education
dot Org. We could spend all day a lot of
this stuff, but I hope when the court system gets this,
we have about thirty seconds remaining. What did the courts
say about this other than the Chief Justice who says
the way to stop racism is to quit practicing it.

(01:13:23):
But what does the court system say about this stuff?

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
You know, it's a good question, and you're a lawyer.
I'm not, so I can't. I can't speak to the
specifics in what it all means. But I think it's
clear that you know, these the Title nine, Title six
have been part of the United States Constitution for a
while now, and that or not. And it's just we
should just be abiding by that. These are not even

(01:13:50):
new laws, and we need to by the laws and
the regulations that we already have.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
Kendall Teach, you're a great American Defense Education dot Org.
Thanks for coming on The Bill Cunningham Show, and Merry
Christmas and Happy New Year.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Thank you, Kendall, thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
God bless America. Let's continue with more of the truth
will set you free. The Party of racism continues to
practice it and blame others for their sins and crimes.
Bill cunning In The Great American Live with you every
Sunday night. Bbye, Billy cunning In The Great American. Kendall
Teits young woman understands the education system in this country
which produces marching Marxist and non independent thinkers. So every

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chance I get in the year twenty twenty six, I'm
going to spend as much time as I can with
the experts from defending education to see what can be done,
what should be done, must be done because these are
perilous times. I have a sense, as maybe you do,
that something bad is going to happen in the year
twenty twenty six, and I just pray that we have

(01:14:51):
Donald Trump in office and functioning, because I would not
have him do my Sunday school classes, but I want
him to be the president because we live in difficult,
perilous times. I guess I'm concerned that down the road
that Putin may set off a nuclear device somewhere, or
you may invade Taiwan, or some other catastrophe may happen.

(01:15:12):
And I don't want someone like Kamala Harris or Tim
Waltz or Joe Biden or some other liberal Democrats in
charge from Brooklyn, New York City or Los Angeles. I
want a bad dude, and that bad dude is Donald Trump,
and that's who I want to be in office. So
we need him. If something bad happens. I want Trump

(01:15:34):
in office. I did not want Kamala Harris and Tim
Watz that one was incompetent and the other one's a crook.
I'll let you decide which is which. Comment later is
going to have Steve gorm about the collapse of the
so called green movement in this country, even Bill Gates
and now seeing the light. Billy Cunningham, the Great American,
with you and all great Americans. Merry Christmas and Avenue

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only Bill Cunningham.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
Bill Cunningham, the Grand American. Of course, one thing we
share is the weather, in the climate, meteorology, et cetera.
One of the good things is that the federal government
it's not hired back about four thousand meteorologists, as if
we need more weather reports. Every time you watch television
any extent, it's nothing but an extended weather report. I
know what the weather is going to be. But one
thing I hate to always say that things are terrible,

(01:17:14):
things are awful, Things can't get any worse. Every now
and then I see the green sprouts of an April
day with the truth bursting forward about the green energy movement.
What it's cost us is literally trillions of dollars resulting
in nothing. I think Shakespeare said sound and fury signifying nothing,
and all the times of al Gore, etc. Is now crashing.

(01:17:37):
And of course Steve Gorm is one of the apostles
of a not agreeing demand made climate change to a
significant extent, and his new book out It's been out
for a while, is knocking him to green breakdown the
coming renewable energy failure, which is happening, but the Democrats
are not giving up. Steve Gorm once again, welcome to
the Bill Cunningham Show, and first of all, Steve Mary

(01:17:59):
Chris missing a Happy New Year.

Speaker 5 (01:18:02):
Hey Bill, Merry Christmas, having New Year. I've never been
called an apostle before, so thanks.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
Well join you. Well, I mean it's like, well, you know,
I've been doing this for years and I'm thinking maybe
what we're saying is breaking through, and that is that
the climate is always changing. It will always change. So
the argument is climate is changing. You want the answers, yes,
but man made climate change it is a completely different matter.
But talk about several issues. Bill Gates, for example, has

(01:18:30):
now seen the lights, seeing the promised Land, and he's
kind of rejected the idea of climate catastrophes, and that's
made the liberals quite unhappy. They're going after Bill Gates
hard about net zero, etc. Explain the conversion to the
American people about Bill Gates.

Speaker 5 (01:18:49):
Yeah, this was really quite a turnaround. Mister Gates, as
you know, as one of the wealthiest men in the world.
I think he's worth more than one hundred billion dollars
and he's had foundations that have been contributing billions of
dollars for years and years to try and fight global
warming and reduce emissions. He wrote a book in twenty

(01:19:11):
twenty one that was titled How to Avoid a Climate Disaster.
But just two weeks before the Climate conference in Billiem, Brazil,
he came out and sent a memo to the UN
Climate Conference and also put on his website and he

(01:19:32):
took a different point of view on many things. Some
of the things he said, quote, climate change is a
serious problem, but it will not be the end of civilization. Secondly,
he said to quote, unfortunately the doomsday outlook is causing
much of the climate community to focus too much on
terms mission near term emissions goals. And then he also

(01:19:54):
concluded with quote, our chief goal should be to prevent suffering,
particularly for those in the tough conditions who live in
the world's poorest countries. Wow, this is this is just
a big, big change for mister Gates. This is very
sensible and and I think he was The press attacked

(01:20:14):
him and many of the climatists, and the press said,
you know, what's he saying, And then the climate realists
the skeptics said, you know, welcome to the sensible side
of the street. So really a big, big, big change.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
I mean Donald Trump is the instigator of much of this,
because he also believes it's a hoax. He said it's
a hoax. I'd love the speech at the UN about
four or five months ago in which he stood up
at the United Nations, looked them all in the eye
and said this is a hoax. And I can imagine
the puckering because you have to hold certain opinions to
get paid. And when you pay for poverty, you get

(01:20:48):
more poverty. And when you pay to hold an opinion
and get studies and jobs, et cetera from it, you
better stay on the company line. And therefore the liberals
et cetera. No, you have to hold one definitive opinion
in order to get paid, and the liberals after money
like anyone else. And one thing you point out is
that during winter it gets a little cold at times.

(01:21:10):
And Cincinnati's had some record snowfall in December, and here
we are winter. We're at the doorstep of winter. And
this every time it's hot or cold, windy, or still
dry or wet, it's always climate change. It's pounded into
your head. Is America experiencing a severe cold winter right now?

(01:21:31):
Which is so unusual? And these temperatures are due, of
course the human calls climate change? Is that bs, Well,
we have a it is a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:21:41):
Yeah, we have a good, old fashioned, really cold winter.
I'm in Chicago. We had record snowfalls for November. We
had ten inches in Chicago the last day or two.
A week ago we had zero in Saturday and Sunday
in early December, and I've got some friends around here.
They're saying, I'm sure hoping all gets over with quickly,

(01:22:02):
But Noah. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration came out
and promoted an article, and in the article it said,
quote accelerated Arctic warming, known as Arctic amplification, has been
evident since the nineteen nineties. Is one of the more
robust signs of global warming currently. Certain hypothesis established Arctic
amplification as a contributor to more severe winter weather have

(01:22:26):
ignited intense debates among climate scientists. But you know, the
credibility is not very good with the climatists. If you will,
I love to quote doctor David Weiner of the Climate
Research Unit of East Anglia in East Anglia.

Speaker 6 (01:22:43):
Is where they were.

Speaker 5 (01:22:44):
They've been holding and keeping the global temperature records for
many years in England. He came out in two thousand
and said, quote, children just aren't going to know what
snow is.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
Yes, they do.

Speaker 5 (01:22:58):
Your listeners can go to a website at Rutgers University
called the Global Snow Lab, and they have church there
and they show that the snow extent in winter months
in the northern hemisphere, the amount of snow that's on
the ground. The use satellites to look at this. The
snow extent has actually been increasing since the nineteen sixties.
So the idea that we're that snow is disappearing really

(01:23:20):
as false. But that's that's what many of the people say.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
And the idea that that.

Speaker 5 (01:23:25):
Warm weather in the Arctic is causing polar vortexes, that's
that's just you know, we used to call these coal snaps.
Now they're polar vortexes made up.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
Well, you know, you and I both know that one
is real cold and icy snowy that's caused caused by
global warming. You and I know that the warm temperatures
cause ice and snow. Now, one thing I saw this
in the news a couple of nights ago, that Chevron
is pulling out of the state of California, the largest,
one of the one or two largest oil companies in
the world. They can't handle their regulations put out by

(01:23:57):
Gavin Newsom, and they say they're done. They're pulling out
out a billion dollars of investments, leaving tens of thousands
of jobs. And it's predicted to the cost of a
gallon of unleaded gas in California by summertime will be
six dollars a gallon. And so when I read that,
I just filled up my Chevy Blazer and it was
two dollars and nineteen cents in Ohio and it goes

(01:24:20):
up between two nineteen and two seventy. But in Chevron's case,
Californians are going to spend six dollars for a gallon
of gas because of the policies, not because of the climate.
Well Californians ever figure it out.

Speaker 5 (01:24:35):
Yeah, Bernie Sanders just went down to the Cup conference
and crowe about how California was becoming more renewable. But
you know, they talk about this affordability crisis. California is
a perfect example of an energy affordability crisis. Gasoline prices
are much higher than the rest of the nation. Prior
to this recent decrease, they were about four to fifty

(01:24:55):
dollars a gallon. And as you say, there there used
to be forty refineries in California. Now they're down to
ten and two of them are looking to close, and
they're predicting the prices are going to be up at
six dollars per gallon.

Speaker 6 (01:25:09):
They have the.

Speaker 5 (01:25:11):
Second highest electricity prices in the nation, behind Hawaii, and
they're catching Hawaii very quickly, and it's just a very,
very expensive state to live. So it's a perfect example
of how not to do green energy, how not to
make energy unaffordable. But they're still marching down this road.
Mister Newsom is pitching this crazy green stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
And politically he appears to be popular in California. Politically
he's leading the Democratic nomination for president in twenty twenty eight.
Could you imagine having Gavin Newsom in charge of America's
energy policy.

Speaker 5 (01:25:52):
Well there's another there's going to be a big issue
next year, and that is you know, we're in the
middle of an artificial intelligence revolution. We've talked about that
in the past. They're building data centers all over the country. Well,
we now have two hundred and thirty environmental groups that
signed a letter to Congress calling for a halt to
data center construction in the United States. And we just

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had Bernie Sanders come out this week center Bernie Sanders
who urged a ban on data center construction. What's going
on is astonishing. The big guys Microsoft, Meta, Google, Amazon
are spending two hundred and eighty billion dollars this year
to build data centers, and that's more than the the

(01:26:36):
gross domestic product of more than one hundred nations around
the world. But now it looks like the Democratic Party
is starting to line up on the side of banded
data centers. So this could be just a huge chooge
right next year.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
Can you imagine if the policies in California are going
to be across America, say between twenty twenty eight to
twenty thirty six, and then all of a sudden, we're
back to the solar batteries, We're back to the windmills,
and we're going to make it hard for oil and
natural gas companies to reduce products, and that would plunge
America into a new dark age, maybe literally. So talk

(01:27:11):
tell the American people about these nuclear power plants that
are being put together that are different than Three Mile Island.
It's different than Chernobyl and today here we are and
that could be the answer. And the cleanest energy imaginable
is a nuclear power plant. Explain how things have changed
the last fifty years when it comes to those technologies.

Speaker 5 (01:27:31):
Yeah, well, we still need to get the cost down,
but that's another thing. Going on. The artificial intelligence revolution
is driving a resurgence.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
In nuclear power.

Speaker 5 (01:27:40):
We have nuclear plants that are being restarted now in Iowa,
in Michigan, and Pennsylvania, and there's some that were construction
with stop that are starting again in South Carolina. President
Trump also issued an executive order in May, actually four
of them on nuclear, and one of them said he
wants to quadruple nuclear capacity by twenty to fifty. We

(01:28:00):
currently get eighteen percent of our electricity for nuclear in
the US and he wants to boost that way up.
And then, as you say, they are new technologies called
small modular reactors. They're trying to be able to build
reactors and factories, put them on trucks and train ship
them to the site and install them. And the goal
here is get the price way way down. So we'll
see if this happens. This is they still need cost breakthroughs.

(01:28:24):
Nuclear still as very expensive three or four times as
expensive as gas takes can take a decade to put
in a plant, which is very slow. But we may
have a nuclear resurgence. We now have like twenty five
companies in the US working on small modular reactors. So
just another big change over the policies in the past.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
So we have the technology available within the next five
or six or seven years to manufacture these small reactors,
put them on a truck to take them to a
city and install them. And why does the green energy
movement hate nuclear power when it's the best kind of power.
Why what's the reason?

Speaker 5 (01:29:06):
Well, I think the history has been you know, many
many years. That was one of the drivers of the
environmental movement in the sixties, seventies.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
And eighties was to oppose nuclear.

Speaker 5 (01:29:17):
Before they got into the you know, we've got to
stop global warming as the big thing.

Speaker 6 (01:29:21):
We also have had some disasters.

Speaker 5 (01:29:23):
We had three mile island issue, We had the Chernobyl
in Europe, and we had the one in Japan who's
escaping me right now, And so safety has been a
big issue and the cost of these things, they're overregulated.
I spoke at a plastic pipe group a while back
and the guy said, if I ship pipe to a

(01:29:43):
regular factory, because I have to have two pages of paperwork.
If I shipped into a nuclear plant, I have to
have an injur of paperwork. So we have big regulation
issues and those are things that have retarded nuclear around
the world. But We now have many countries building small
modular reactors also and trying. Still experimental of this stuff is,
but I have hopes that it's going to break through
and we won't have to subsidize nuclear plants anymore. They'll

(01:30:07):
be able to compete.

Speaker 12 (01:30:08):
On their own.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
So you're optimistic, Steve Gorm. You're optimistic politically. If we
keep the same political leadership and don't go back to
the John Kerries, the al Gores, the Gavin Newsom's of
this world, we're going to come out of this. Okay,
I need some optimist, I think.

Speaker 5 (01:30:23):
So. Yeah, Well, we have a rising number of political
parties that are pushing back against climatism and that zero.
In the US we have Trump and the Republicans. They
haven't said they're a post in that zero, but the
policies are pushing that way. And now we have four
major parties outside the US to reform UK, led by
Nigel Paraj In England they've coined the phrase stupid zero.

(01:30:46):
We have the and they're poll They're leading in polls
in the UK, a second in the polls in Germany
is the alternative for Deutschland, and they said they want
to get rid of all the wind turbine towers in Germany.
That's one of their their party planks. And then just
in the last two months we had two parties in Australia,
the Nationals and the Liberal Party have come out against

(01:31:06):
net zero. They say it's just too expensive. So around
the world we have all these groups that are saying,
you know, this green energy thing isn't going to work,
let's get back to sensible energy policy.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
One good we have about a minute remaining evs. The
EV sales in America are collapsing, mainly because the government
is not bribing people with seven and a half thousand
dollars to buy one. And secondly, when you've had an
EV for a while, the last thing you want to
do is get another EV. So I still see lots
of tesla's flowing around. But those who've had evs they

(01:31:38):
did it. I guess to show how great I am.
I'm just exhibiting my social consciousness. But what's the stat
on if you've had an EV the odds of buying
another EV, which are expensive.

Speaker 5 (01:31:51):
Well, you know, they're cool cars, cool second cars, But
as you say, they removed the text credits for them,
and sales have plunged. It's possible that Tesla is going
to show a loss actually in this next quarter. We're
waiting to see. But they're about the last winter, they
were about seven percent of US new car sales. Now
they're they're probably dropping. They dropped in the summer and

(01:32:14):
with the subsidies gone, so they're kind of a niche thing.
And you know, Ford just canceled their f one to
fifty Lightning and took a nineteen billion dollar charge against
that for canceling that, so they've got some issues. I
think they're going to get better and better. But the
idea that we should force everybody to drive evs to
to stop to make the storms less severe, that's your

(01:32:35):
silly stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
So you're saying that for the most one of the
more popular pickups in America, how much did Ford lose
on that.

Speaker 5 (01:32:45):
Well, this is the Lightning, the electric version of it.
But they just took a big charge nineteen billion dollars. Uh,
that's an awful big thing. They're still going to have
hybrids and and they'll do some things, but you know,
we do the manufacturers stepping back now from from the
e V craze.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
And car dealers have told me that when you when
they bring in an ev in trade. Some won't even
take them in on trade because they can't get rid
of them. And those who need to be towed off
a highway somewhere tow trucks won't. It won't tow an
ev it's too dangerous.

Speaker 5 (01:33:18):
Reseale. The resale has been very, very low priced.

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
Who would buy a three year old Tesla? You have
to be you have to be stupid? Well once again, ye,
once again. Uh, it's great that I think what you're
doing is having a measurable effect. And what is your
website if people want to get more about outside the
Green Box and the Green break the Green Breakdown and

(01:33:43):
also the mad mad world of climatology. H can you
tell the American people how to get your books?

Speaker 5 (01:33:48):
Yeah, I'll send them a signed copy if they order
one from my website. Steve Gorham g O R E
h A M dot com. And by the way, these
are colored paperbacks and they're a lot of fun they
have in addition to the science that can, they have
about one hundred and fifty colors sidebars. Here's one from
Green Breakdown. These are real headlines. A surgeon uses human
fat to run his cars. There was a surgeon in

(01:34:11):
Beverly Hills that was taking the fat from his his
surgeries and turning it into fuel. He actually got prosecuted.
Now this is not something you're supposed to do. But no,
this mad, mad, mad world of climatism, that's where we are.
And the great reads for people.

Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
I Steve Gorm, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and let's
keep the lines of communication open. We're having some measurable impact.
And thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Steve,
you're a great American. Thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 10 (01:34:37):
Bill.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham, the Great American Live
with you every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham, The Great American.
Steve Gorm headed on maybe six seven times this year.
Every time he comes on, things get a little bit better.
Right now, the ev market is collapsing. Ford and others
have lost tens of billions of dollars. They didn't have

(01:34:59):
to do it. They were following the government dictates, acting
as if we're going to run around with windmills and
solar batteries to power cars and all that kind of crap.
And it never happened. Now that is collapsing, so I
said to Steve gorm you heard me say it. I
think maybe he and I are having some measurable effect
on public policy. Let's continue with more. Coming up next
to is John Lott, who was in the Trump administration

(01:35:21):
to begin with in the first term. He comes with
the facts and the figures. With all these shooting shootings
taking place of Brown and elsewhere, can gun control solve
that problem? I don't think so. Bill Cunningham, the Great
American with you, every so, Bill Cunningham, the Great American.
Of course, John Lott is an expert Crime Research dot

(01:35:44):
Org when it comes to all things about guns. And
one of the tragedies of what happened to Brown University
is the media uses that as an occasion to attack
Second Amendment rights, and they do it quite well because
emotion should not take the place of reason. And so
when you have numerous college kids that have been terrorized
on college campuses by someone illegally carrying firearms, their first

(01:36:06):
reaction is to go after the inanimate metal object instead
of the person doing the shooting. And the word gun
violence is ubiquitous. I would hasten to point out there's
about fifty thousand Americans die every year in car accidents,
we would never say, you know, we have car violence.
We deal with the person driving the car, whether they're drunk,

(01:36:27):
had a license, whether they have insurance. And then the
car is an instrumentality to cause harm, much as a
gun is an instrumentality to cause harm. But there's no
such a thing as car violence. We focus on the
driver when it comes to a weapon, a gun under
the Second Moendment, my right to carry, all of a sudden,
the gun becomes the object and not the person doing it.

(01:36:47):
Joining you and I now is that same John Latton?
First of all, John, can you tell the American people
they are restrictive gun laws available in Australia and how
they failed miserably Abundai Beach.

Speaker 13 (01:37:00):
Before I get into that, I just want to make
a comment. I think it's worse than what you're saying,
and that is the problem is is that you have
these laws that create the problems. You create these gun
free zones like at Brown University. And the thing is
the people who obey it are basically the law abiding
good individuals and the criminals the people who want to

(01:37:24):
go and till other people take advantage of that. In fact,
they're attracted to those areas, And the problem that we
have is you pass these rules or laws that go
and create the problem, create the magnets for these attacks,
and rather than going back and undoing the regulations.

Speaker 6 (01:37:43):
That are there, they double down and have even.

Speaker 13 (01:37:45):
More restrictions they are being put on there. But anybody
who read I mean, obviously we don't know even who
committed this horrible crime at Brown yet, but time after
time we get the diaries and manifestoes.

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
For these mass murders, and.

Speaker 6 (01:38:03):
Time after time they read the same way.

Speaker 13 (01:38:06):
These guys are planning these attacks well in advance. They're
often suicidal. They want to go and get media attention,
and they know the more people they kill, the more
media attention that they're going to be able to get.

Speaker 6 (01:38:21):
And they know if they go to a.

Speaker 13 (01:38:22):
Place where they're victims are defenseless, they're going to be
able to go and kill more people and get more
media attention. Look, we don't need to get rid of
the First Amendment to stop these guys from getting I
don't even know how you would do it from getting
the media attention that they crave. But the point is
is that you have to take away their goal, and

(01:38:43):
their goal is to get media attention.

Speaker 6 (01:38:46):
The way you do that is.

Speaker 13 (01:38:47):
To convince them that they're not going to be able
to go and kill that many people. And the way
you do that is by making, you know, having a
sign that says warning you know, so.

Speaker 6 (01:38:57):
Lect teachers are staff at.

Speaker 13 (01:38:59):
The school, are carrying concealed and will use their guns
to go and protect others that are there.

Speaker 1 (01:39:05):
Yeah. No, In Australia, I can recall. I can't imagine
a more clear example of the cry globalize the Intifada
than Australia. In the Middle May, I say, of nowhere,
It's thousands of miles away from Gaza or Israel. There's
hundreds of thousands of Palestinian activists running around the Opera
House in Sydney with their Palestinian garbe saying kill the Jews,

(01:39:29):
kill the Jews. And if I'm Jewish and I see
the synagogues are being fire bombed by businesses, are being
broken into and vandalized by cars, are being blown up
by Islamic terrorists. The first thing I want to do
is protect myself, but you can't do that in Australia.
Describe the situation in Australia about possession of guns by
regular people.

Speaker 6 (01:39:51):
Right.

Speaker 13 (01:39:51):
Well, basically what happened was after a mass shooting that
they had Tasmania in ninety six, nineteen ninety six, they
went and imposed all sorts of new gun control regulations
and confiscated almost a third of the guns that were
privately owned at that time. They had registration licensing, so

(01:40:14):
they knew who had the guns. They paid a a
nominal fee for taking the guns from people.

Speaker 6 (01:40:22):
And you know, there's been a lot.

Speaker 13 (01:40:24):
Of claims even in the last few days about the
supposed benefits from that confiscation that they had. A lot
of people will go and say, well, it lowered the
firearm homicide rate or it lowered the firearm suicide rate.
It's really statistical malpractice that they have there when they
make that claim. For fifteen years prior to the confiscation,

(01:40:50):
both the firearm homicide right and the firearms suicide rate.

Speaker 6 (01:40:54):
Was falling, but they actually stopped.

Speaker 13 (01:40:57):
Falling after or much slower rate of decline after the
confiscation occurred. In fact, total suicides went up. I'm not
going to go and argue that the confiscation caused suicides
to rise, but it's very difficult to go and argue
that there was a benefit from that.

Speaker 6 (01:41:18):
Look, if you had a perfectly.

Speaker 13 (01:41:21):
Straight line that was falling over the entire period that
you have there, you could pick any point along that line,
and the after average is going to be below the
before average. But you look at it and you say, look,
it's falling at exactly the same rate beforehand as it
is afterwards. It's really hard to see any benefit that's
occurring from that. But in fact, what you would do

(01:41:44):
is you'd say, is it falling at a faster rate
or a slower rate?

Speaker 6 (01:41:47):
Is there some discontinuity that was occurring there?

Speaker 13 (01:41:50):
And what you find is that for firearm homicide rates,
it stopped falling. So it was falling and then all
of a sudden it stopped afterwards. Look, if they're right,
if the gun can troll, advocates who point to this
all the time, and everybody from Obama to Hillary Clinton
to Biden to Democrats over the last few days have

(01:42:11):
been pointing to this. You know, what you should have
seen was an immediate large drop in firearmahamicides or suicides,
and then over time, as gun ownership recovered to some extent,
you would have seen an increase. And that's not the
pattern that you see at all.

Speaker 1 (01:42:30):
Let's talk about the Wall Street Journal. You have a
column up a few days ago about the Wall Street
Journal's fearmongering doesn't survive contact with evidence. And when I
read this article of the Wall Street Journal, which generally
about half the time they make some sense. They rend
this big story in the front page by reporter Marc Merrimont,
who continued his attack on people carrying firearms. He presented

(01:42:52):
four stories that those untrained civilians that have a weapon,
generally it'll be a handgun, have caused mayhem and that
somehow it's good then in America to make sure there's
high hurdles to be able to carry a firearm to
protect yourself. Explain why this story in the Wall Street
Journal is not accurate.

Speaker 13 (01:43:11):
Right, you know, this is the fourth in a series
of articles by this gentleman, and you know wants to argue,
is it's dangerous to have concealed carry either right to
carry or constitutional carry type loss And so over the
four years from twenty twenty two to now, he has
four examples. Actually two of them are really only relevant

(01:43:33):
for the story that he has about people legally caring.

Speaker 6 (01:43:37):
But there's like no perspective here.

Speaker 13 (01:43:40):
You don't mention that there's like one point six million
defensive gun uses.

Speaker 1 (01:43:45):
Each year that occur.

Speaker 13 (01:43:48):
You don't mention that they're twenty one million concealed carry
permit holders in the United States or twenty nine constitutional
carry states where it's not even necessary for people to
have a permit. So the rate of problems is tiny.
And the other thing is, you know, obviously two is

(01:44:08):
too too many that have occurred even over four years,
but where.

Speaker 6 (01:44:13):
Bystanders accidentally shot? But the question is what's the alternative?

Speaker 13 (01:44:18):
And so what we did was we went back over
the decade from twenty sixteen through now to go and
see how many accidal gun shots by civilians who are
legally carrying a concealed handgun, how that compared to the police.
And what you find is that if you remove a
security guard from them, which is kind of a different story,

(01:44:40):
and just look at regular civilians, there are three such
shootings that had occurred over the ten years. By contrast,
there were twenty accidental shootings by police of bystanders when
they're trying to stop a crime. Twenty eight people were
either killed or are wounded in those accidental shootings of bystanders.

(01:45:06):
So and that's like seven times higher than the rate
that civilians accidentally shot a bystander when they're trying to
stop the crime.

Speaker 1 (01:45:16):
You know, John, we've done this for many years, and
I think we're having measurable impact on someone. When I
read a line from the Wall Street Journal story quote
when untrained or panic shooters missed their target, it's children, neighbors,
and bystanders who pay the price. And so you went
through a process because you worked with research with the

(01:45:37):
Trump administration and you plugged into chat, GPT, Gronka and
other systems AI, which is a wonderful benefit and maybe
a cost to us in the long run, who knows.
But when you have twenty one million individuals carrying weapons,
did you find any case in the last several years

(01:45:58):
where a person costitutional carry missed their target and killed
a child?

Speaker 6 (01:46:05):
Well, we couldn't.

Speaker 13 (01:46:05):
We couldn't find even one case where somebody under constitutional
carry accidentally shot any busybother over the last ten years.
But yet, you know, obviously you know the article the
most wanted to make a big deal about constitutional carry.
You know, you think he'd at least provide one example

(01:46:26):
himself of that being a problem, but not even the
story provides an example of that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
And when you when you did your review and the
police incidents, and I don't know, there's seven hundred and
fifty thousand police officers Marshall's FBI CEOs and the country
and some of one hundred and fifty thousand who every
day confront millions of criminal situations. You found twenty cases
in which officers accidentally shot a total of twenty eight

(01:46:53):
by standers. Unfortunately, six were killed, twenty two were runed in.
And so that is so it's below one thousandth of
one percent, it's almost non existent. And so all the.

Speaker 6 (01:47:04):
Clear ten years, ten years, over ten years.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
Yeah, but the media you got, you know, these untrained
individuals like you and I are accidentally shooting children as
like what, well, it's untethered to reality, correct.

Speaker 13 (01:47:20):
Yeah, I mean there's not one example that we found
over the ten years where a child was bystandard was
shot when somebody was using a gun defensively. So you know,
it's you know, it's unfortunate. But as I said, this
is the fourth in a series that the Wall Street
journalists had, all very long stories that they have. I'm

(01:47:44):
sure they think they're doing some big exposa on it.

Speaker 6 (01:47:48):
I've written.

Speaker 13 (01:47:49):
I finally wrote the op ed because I'd written letters
to the editor for the Wall Street Journal but got
and also sent information to the reporter, but you know,
it was ignored, and the you know, the reporter did
never got back to me either on this stuff. And
he doesn't have any quotes in any of his articles

(01:48:12):
from anybody who takes kind of a pro self defense position.

Speaker 1 (01:48:16):
Makes it on this stuff. Just how about your research
overall police in America accidentally wounded five point six times
as many bystanders as civilians, killed three times as many
and wounded seven times. It's just a typical constitutional carry person.
And so you also point out that otherwise research showing

(01:48:37):
the FBI's active shooter definition, we looked at cases over
ten years or individuals actively attempted to kill people in
public area, excluding shootings tied to other crimes. That showed
that armed civilians consistently acted safely and effectively. But that's
not a story, is it?

Speaker 7 (01:48:57):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:48:57):
Unfortunately not, Colonel News.

Speaker 1 (01:49:00):
Is it going to be covering that? Well, all I
can say is with the antisemitism, and plus we're constantly
told by Democrats when it comes to major cities, how
safe things are, that violence is going down, that it's
all okay. In reality, I live in little Cincinnati, Ohio,
and every year we have at least twenty thousand shots fired,

(01:49:22):
and the city of Cincinnati, by I would assume thousands
of individuals. Each one's a felony, and none are ever
making the police blotterer because the person who fired the
gun wasn't apprehended. Imagine how many shots are fired, like
in Los Angeles or Chicago. If Cincinnati's got twenty thousand
bullets rolling around town, I would imagine big cities have

(01:49:44):
hundreds of thousands and none ever hit the police statistics, correct.

Speaker 13 (01:49:49):
Right, you know, Look, here's the problem, and that is
what we just had. The police chief in DC resigned
because it finally came came out that the reason why
she resigned was because all of her commanders testified before
the House Operations Committee that she was ordering them to

(01:50:13):
misclassify crimes to go and reduce the number of serious
crimes that were being reported.

Speaker 8 (01:50:19):
You know.

Speaker 13 (01:50:19):
So it's just not Chicago and New York City and
some other places which have been caught manipulating the crime
data that's there you know, it raises real questions about,
you know, how accurately what we can do to depend
on the crime data that's coming out. Well, it's one
reason of many that the that the FBI data reported

(01:50:44):
crime is so different from the National Crime Victimization Bureau
of Justice satistic data, which shows that over the last
four years we had the largest percentage increase and violent
crime ever recorded over any four year was a fifty
nine percent increase. My own belief is it's falling this

(01:51:05):
year finally, and we're going to hit record low murder rates.
And I believe when it comes out a year from now,
in September next year, it's going to also show because
of Trump's efforts with regard to illgal aliens and other things,
we're going to see a big drop in violent crime.

Speaker 1 (01:51:25):
And Democrats will take credit for that. But Pamela Smith
of Washington, DC, chief of Classic DEI Hire, when her
commanders were under oath and testified they weren't going to
lie for her, that they cook the books to make
Mario bows Of the mayor of Washington, DC, look better,
And I suspect the same things happening in Cincinnati as
it's happening all over the country by democratic mayors who

(01:51:47):
want to show that National guardsmen in our town make
no sense because crime is down. In reality, crime is
up and they're cooking the books. Well, John Lott, we
got to go Crimeresearch dot org. Crimeresearch dot Org and
John Lott, may you and yours have a merry Christmas
and a happy New Year. And thank you very much.

Speaker 6 (01:52:04):
Merry Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:52:05):
Bill, thanks very much. And John keep being that we
need we need you to stay on this. We need
you because our rights are at risk and when college
kids that have been traumatized are used by the media
to promote a false narrative, and I like to have
facts and figures to back it up. And Crimeresearch dot
org you give me those statistics. And John, thanks for
what you do. Thank you well, thank you.

Speaker 13 (01:52:26):
People can go to our website and sign up for
our emails that we send out once every two weeks
with our research and the data that we have doesn't
do us any good to do the work if people
aren't educated and can't use the data that we.

Speaker 1 (01:52:39):
Put out Crimeresearch dot org. John Lott, You're a great
American and once again, thank you very much. Thank you,
God bless you. I le's continue with more. Bill cunning
In the Great American live with you every Sunday night,
Billy cunning In the Great American. I intend to be
with you a week from tonight, but I won't be
with you before Christmas. Christmas is about the birth of
the Messiah, the Christ, the Baby Jesus, from which time

(01:53:02):
is counting, from the time he was born to a
peasant girl named Mary in a dirty little town in
Judea named named a Nazareth, that in which he lived,
went to Bethlehem and was born. So before you go
to bed to night, thank God all Mighty you live
in America. Thank God Almighty that you recognized as a
God above. And thank God your life is lived for

(01:53:24):
a particular purpose at a particular time. But if you
have time, be kind, do not be cruel, be fair,
do not be nasty, and spend time over the next
several days with your family, with your friends, celebrate the
birth of the Baby Jesus, but also recommit yourself to
the home of the Free and the land of the brave,
that is surely the United States of America. As Charlie

(01:53:45):
Kirk would have said, number one is God. Number two
is family. Number three is the United States of America.
Bill Cunningham, with you every Sunday night.

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