Live on Sunday Night with Bill Cunningham 4/5/2026

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Now here's the man who's been recognized as radio's best,
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for his broadcast excellence, the one and only Bill Cunningham.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
All right, my fellow Americans, great to every with me
this Sunday night. The next one to three days should
be extremely interesting because what the President said this morning,
and also the rescue, the the capture of our F
fifteen Eagle pilot was really I have some of the
timeline I'm going to share with you later on from
a bunch of sources. How this happened, I'm sure like you,

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when this happened on Friday, it was quickly picked up.
The actual pilot of the of the aircraft was picked
up quickly, but the weapons officer was not. And so
I assumed for the last two and a half days
that if in fact he was captured by the Iranians,
that they would have traded him quickly on Iranian television
as a great trophy. The Democrats would have been pleased

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with that in the United States Senate, the media would
have gone crazy. Is an example once again of Trump's ineptitude,
and all hell would have broken loose for public relations reasons.
And I thought, okay, But then a few things started happening.
On Saturday. I spoke to some national reporters at Fox.
I spoke to an Army officer I've had on quite

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often Air Force, and they said, maybe something else is
going on, which is what they have him located in
an area and there waiting to clear the area to
save this guy, Lieutenant colonel. And I'm thinking, well, whatever
it is. And then overnight, I think it was about
one am on Sunday morning. This morning, about twenty three
hours ago, it broke that he was found in a crevice.

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In fact, he was located early on. In fact, as
you may know, when pilots extricate themselves from the craft,
that the F fifteen Eagle is equipped with a beacon
that quickly notifies the United States Air Force that someone
has been ejected from the plane. A mayde was sent

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out on a special guard frequency, and that would have
loaded the convert a combat search and rescue elements the
United States Air Force. The weapons officer, reported to be
lieutenant colonel, was reportedly injured during the ejection process, which
is not unusual. But the pilots have with them emergency
supplies including a radio and a personal defense weapon of

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forty five and stored underneath the seat, and this is
for their use if necessary. And within a short period
of time, the the CSAR element, composed of a mc
J refueling aircraft and two Jolly Green helicopters were spotted
near the scene. At that point, the CIA and others

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started a diversionary tactic to make the Iranians think that
the pilot was not where he was located. And because
at this point they sent thousands of guardsmen revolutionary guardsmen,
and they put out a bounty beginning at sixteen thousand
dollars get up to fifty thousand dollars to find him
in the returnament in one shape, and if they if
they could have done that, and the helicopters were armed

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with gatling style mini guns and carried you in United
Says Air Force parachute jumpers, et cetera. And so it
took about a day and a half or so to
actually make sure that the weapons officer from the f
fifteen was in an area that could be safely extracted.
They had to clear the area within several miles every

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which direction. Because the satellite and drone technology from the
get go, Donald Trump, Secretary of War Hempseth, and others,
they knew where he was and they watched in real
time all around him to make sure that he wasn't captured.
He was in quite a bit of pain, suffered allegedly
some leg injuries, but he was able to pull himself

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up by about a mile up to a seven thousand
foot high cliff or a crevice where he was located,
and there was a time leg. While this is going on,
the world's got to be thinking, Okay, the pilot is
either dead or he's been captured, or he's alive somewhere,
and the weapons officer decided to get out of the

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area and started hiking toward a ridge visible in the
background of the video. And all pilots go through what
is called SIRI training survival, evasion, resistance, and escape, so
he had hit some economic acknowledge about what to do.
Of course, in those moments, all hell's breaking loose, and
at this point the CIA starts doing what they're doing

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to put in the idea he's not in that area,
he's over there near to the gulf, over that way,
to get the Iranians to believe something else is going on.
The air force cleared the area and reported they had located,
and they wait until nightfall until they could pull them out.
You know, nighttime is the bright time for the Nited
States Air Force. And there were reports of Iranians civilians

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blocking roads to obstruct their revolutionary guard.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Now listen to this one. I'll say it again.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Iranians civilians blocked roads with boulders and trees to keep
safe the American flyer. So somebody must have known he
was probably alive at that point. Plus civilians reportedly fled
the streets to block any convoy to locate. I have
a guest coming up later. Why that's important, and that

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is an Iranian woman who's going to talk about that.
So video was clear, his location was known, the site
had to be taken care of. Iranian people helped in this,
and President Trump and Secretary of War Pete Hegseth wanted

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to congratulate the CIA and diversionary tactics wanted to congratulate
two C one thirties that landed on a dirt strip,
probably a road some distance from that location and establish
a forward operating base. And by the way, they lost
a couple of those of those planes, but nonetheless they
were blown up and the officer was located on the

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top of a mountain. The aircraft carrying members of the
sore and also the unit with a couple of MH
six little bird helicopters. They got the elite of the
elite to go and to extricate him from where he is.
The mission went off well, like clock. The pilot is alive,
but he's injured and I look forward in the future

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to him visiting the President and the White House. The
mission had to leave behind a c and a helicopter
either were blown up by the departing team or a
bomb by overwatching aircraft, and so it wasn't taken down,
but the h the aircraft had to be destroyed and
that was done by US Air Force forces. But the

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Iranians did recover some war trophies if they want to
use it, and also the according to media out of Iran,
they have a pair of Boxer shorts three pack for
twenty three dollars and fifty cents left behind. I don't
know how that got there. There were some of the
undies of the pilots in a package. And according to
the Iranians, the Americans came into Iran, set up shop

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a forward operating base, rescued the down aircrew, They killed
hundreds of thugs, blew up everything in the area that
could be blown up that was Iranian. And they consider
that a victory. According to the Iranian news agencies tonight,
quote we beat the Great Satan quote unquote, Well, if

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that's a victory, hell, I don't want to see a defeat.
If a victory means you lose your air force, you
lose your navy, you lose your political leadership, you lose
every military base, you lose their so called congress, you
lose the headquarters of the Republican Guard, and you have
thousands and thousands of Iranian soldiers that are killed, and

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you have twelve thousand sorties going on. And if that's
a victory by Iran, I don't want to see a defeat.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
We'll deal with that later on tonight.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
But that was as always a great victory and for
the American people, and just looking at this thing, it's
been what five weeks from tonight begin February to twenty eighth,
about thirty five days ago. Look at what's been accomplished
in thirty five days. Donald Trump and America is doing
what is right, but because of media coverage and the

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Democrats is not very popular, not very popular at all.
And I will stand with the Trumps through through thick
and thin.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
He's doing what is right.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
He's doing what every president since nineteen seventy nine said
it must be done, and this guy's doing it. And
when you have even the so called far right, the
Tucker Carlson's and others going after Donald Trump, splitting parts
of the so called mega movement, I think the Mega
support for Donald Trump's gone from ninety six percent to
eighty one percent. And if Cannon owned Owens and others

(09:40):
assisting in this, it's kind of sad, but it's what
you would anticipate. The media and the Democrats cannot have
a Republican slash Trump victory. And if there is not
a victory, if somehow something goes awry in war, these
things happen. According to the President, things must transpire by
tomorrow or Tuesday. According to a text he put out

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rather profane, I might add this morning, he says that Tuesday,
all hell's about to break loose, and he gave an
interview with Reuters the President did in which he said
he anticipates a deal, and now that the pilot's been recovered,
because of the search and rescue operations, one of the
best in US history, something's got to come to a head.

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And at some point I have a guest coming on
later about an hour that says it is coming to
a head. And since the second crew member has not
been rescued at no loss of life to the Air Force,
at this point is the time to do something. It's
on Saturday yesterday. Trump said he's given the regime forty
eight hours to accept a deal and the blockade in

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the Straits or time is running out forty eight hours
before all hell will rain down on them. He also
used and might use some foul language. He said, I
can't repeat the words, of course, but I could, but
I'm not. Tuesday will be power plant day in Bridge day,
all wrapped up in won in Iran, there would be
nothing like it. Open the blank straight, you crazy blank,

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or you'll be living in hell. Just watch praise be
to Allah President Donald Trump. Now, do I wish that
Donald Trump did not use foul language as the President
of United States using the F bomb?

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yes, I do. I wish.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
I'm a practicing Roman Catholic, and this is Easter, that
the most special day of the year. Without Easter, America
would not exist. Without Easter. If the Christ had not risen,
Christianity itself would not exist.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
But he did.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
It's provable, So I wish the President would not have
dropped the F bomb as he did. Now, the F
bomb and other bad language is part now of the
American vernacular. I see the F bomb everywhere, from Hollywood
on T shirts, I see it on college campuses. Every
time a Democrat liberal speaks is thrown. That doesn't make

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it permissible, that doesn't make it right. It's only bad, though,
when Republicans do it and not Democrats. You might recall
when Obama when the signing of Obamacare took place, which
was an unmitigated disaster. Joe Biden said to Barack Hussein
Obama on a hot mic at the Obamacare signing, calling

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it a big F word deal, and the press corps
practically swooned. When Joe Biden used the F bomb that
was broadcasting. It was pushed that this was real. It
showed that Biden was not carefully packaged political product, that
he was a regular guy like.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
You or me.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
It's a word that I don't use. I don't think
you should use. I think it's wrong. I'll tell you
what's a lot more wrong. Iranian's killing thirty five thousand people.
That's a lot more wrong. And I would also point
out that the Associated Press in December talks about Joe
Biden's use of the language as building upon his legacy,
as reacting in a real way to how sick six

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pack Joe would speak. Well, whatever it is. The Democrats
have lost it when it comes to today. They're melting
down when Donald Trump used the F bomb, and of
course that calls for the twenty fifth Amendment to be
to be used. They're saying, mentally, he's ill equipped. The
Sunday morning talk shows they all went after Donald Trump.
He goes to what he said, including Jake Tapper of CNN,

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he was about the worst. He was shocked, shocked that
Donald Trump might use the F word to describe the
behavior in Iran. And never is never is that the
case when a Democrat does exactly the same thing. Doesn't
make it right, doesn't make it just. I think the
president is more special than other politicians. I wish the
president would not use bad language, but he does. But

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as you and I know, the next day or two
is going to be extremely consequential. By the time you
and I get back together next Sunday night, we're gonna
do I think Iron's going to make a deal. Absolutely not.
Because they're homicidal, jenn sidyl, and suicidal. Put those three
things together. My gosh, is out a problem. When they

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think the way to paradise is to kill innocent men, women,
and children, and then during a jihad kill or burn
alive babies, that that's the ticket to paradise, we got
a problem. So they're governed by the philosophy of the
twelfth Emam about to arise from a cave near Om

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to declare the end of all time in which they
because they killed Christians, Jews, Westerners, anyone. And by the way,
the number one victim of Islamic extremism and terrorism are Muslims.
More Muslims have killed Muslims than any other group by
the tune of millions, and millions have been killed. The

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Iran Iraqi War, for example, killed well over one million Muslims.
It wasn't well covered in the media. Went on for
ten years, and Iran would put keys to paradise around
the neck of children between the ages of six and
nine years old and send them into minefields to be
blown up. And the parents gave their children for that purpose.

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So when you're fighting a regime that wants to die,
that wants to kill, and this homicidal, suicidal and genocidal,
now that's a problem. Even the Nazis wanted to go home,
have some bear and get married and have kids. That's
not the case with the Iranian leaders. Have a guess
coming up later to address herself to that issue. Is

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it a clique or does it represent Iran in general? Well,
there's about a million men under arms in Iran, about
seven hundred thousand army regulars and about two hundred and
fifty thousand members of the so called Revolutionary Guard. They're
the true believers. And so I don't know how you
willingly say, ok, you go to Turkey and live in exile,

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that's okay. Do I don't think that's going to I
would hope. So Monday afternoon Tuesday. Hey, at the top,
we give up. We're gonna go live in exile and
pick a country. They'll take them. Then they're going to
execute them once they get there. But the leaders know,
the religious leaders know, if it ends the way the
President Trump wants it to end, they're dead. They're a

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dead duck, not going to work. The Iranian people will
tear them to shreds, like the Italians that with Benina Mussolini.
They're gonna hang them all. And they know they're fighting
for their life, and they're willing to kill and to
be killed. They think that's their ticket to paradise. They'll
go to heaven if they kill enough innocent men, women

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and children. If they wrap babies together and set them
on fire, rape women, then behead them. They think that's
the way to get to heaven. I wish kind of
the pope where others would address themselves to that. I
wish I wish more Muslim leaders in America would call
that out for what it is, genocide. If the way
to get to heaven is to kill innocent people, now,

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that's no religion of which I want to be a part,
and I would we had the great majority of Muslims
in America do not feel that way at all, and
I wish more Muslims would speak up and say that's
not us, that's wrong. The Golf States are doing it.
The five or six Golf States are with us, and
the religious leadership there is talks about this problem like

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you and I like I talk about it. So it's
a branch of Islam that needs to be taken care
of by Muslims themselves. But all right, let's take short break.
We'll talk more. I'll take your calls.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Of course.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
We have John and San Diego calling, and a couple
of calls from Florida. We have four lines open. Do
you support Donald Trump and what he said this morning
about all hell breaking loose on Monday night or Tuesday
if the Iranians do not accept the deal, which is
give up all the thousand pounds of an rich uranium,
promise never again to do it, to put IAEA inspectors

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in sconced inside every facility, to make all their military
bases available to the US military into a UN force
and live in peace. That's what it's going to take.
Is that gonna happen sometime Monday night er Tuesday. I'd
be shocked if it did. But this is a war
that we must win. But me maybe in the minority.
Donald Trump is doing what's right, but he's doing not

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what's popular at this point. Let's continue with your calls.
Eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven.
Eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven.
Do you stand with Donald Trump? Or do you oppose him?
Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night, Billy Cunningham, Let's

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continue you. We have calls from Washington and Florida, Wisconsin,
and uh call in with your comments. Eight sixty six
six four seven seven three three seven. This is the
only president we've ever had with numerous Jews as his grandchildren.
And Caroline Levitch sent me a whole bunch of things,
the great things the president has recently done for Christians

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on this Easter Sunday night, established a new task force
to eradicate anti Christian bias, declared the official pology US government.
There are only two immutable sex as male and female.
Banned federal funding for the chemical and surgical mutilation of children,
et cetera. The list is long, stay tuned for more.
Let's continue, and we have great guests coming up later

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from Iran. Go Cunningham with you in all Great Americans
every Sunday. You know, even some Democrats have had lucid
moments recently and said, once you're in the middle of
this thing, Like Thomas Freeman of New York Times, a

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left wing radical columnist, says, once you're in this thing,
it's nice to talk about whether the swamps should have
been drained or not drained or not. But we're up
to our button alligators and snakes. We got a fight.
Whether you like it or not. You may not like
Donald Try up at all. You may have a difficulty
with his modes of expression. You may think his policies
are wrong. That is, support for Israel and for Christianity

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is a big mistake. You may think that Donald Trump
should have an open border. You may think that maybe
we should have more cities that look like Milwaukee and Minnesota,
more cities that look like Austin, Texas or Cincinnati when
it comes to riots after the Reds opening Day, or
to Los Angeles, we need more of that. They want
Los Angeles and San Francisco values to come to your
home down. That's what they want. Maybe that's what should happen.

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I think they're wrong. But when American soldiers and aviators
are fighting and dying thirteen so far on the battlefields
in the Middle East, and what Donald Trump is clearly
within the parameters of the War Powers Act. I'll watched
another presentation of Meet the Depressed this morning and the
Senators were talking about the illegal war. There's nothing illegal

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about it. This is completely legal. First of all, the
War Powers Act gives a president to notify the Congress
within forty eight hours of the use of military a
soldier somewhere in the world. And that was done, then
you had between sixteen ninety days thereafter. So let's go
to ninety days. That's all of February, March and April.
By May one. If this thing is not concluded, then

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the President needs to go back to the Congress. By
the way, when Barack Husein Obama bombed the crap out
of Libya causing complete chaos that took seven months and
the death of some American aviators, including four personnel in
Tripoli when the embassy was taken over. So for seven months,

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with the complete approval and support of Barack Husein Obama
and Chuck Schumer, and Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton. Seven
months the bombing took place, there were over forty thousand
runs of the military of the Air Force under Obama
and they didn't raise the stink at all. This is

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so far has gone on for thirty five days, and
the war powers access six sixty to ninety. If this
thing is still going in May, I'd be in a
state of shock and the support of the American people
would collapse. And by the way, I just filled up
my Chevy Blazer and I paid two three p sixty
nine a gallon. So the national average is now about
four to ten. But that takes into account what's happening

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in California and New York and New Jersey and Massachusetts
and also Washington, in Oregon, in Illinois where at gas
prices are high because of taxes, and so, yes, this
is difficult. Yes, there's going to be some more loss
of life, which is tragic, But at the end of
the day, we're going to save the world from possibly

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a nuclear configuration that would end the civilization as we
know it. Any doubt in your mind that the Revolutionary
Guard would use nuclear weapons if they had it, absolutely
Now they're more likely to use it than ever before.
It would be helpful, although not required, It would be
helpful if the Democrats quit playing cheap political games and
start acting like statesmen and say, wow, this is going on.

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We will give the president the ninety days under the
War Powers Act. And by the way, every president, Democrat
and Republican have both said both parties that the War
Powers Act is unconstitutional anyway, never been tested in the courts,
So likely the president can do this for at least
ninety days, and it's legal.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
Can we say that again? It's legal.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
And I'm waiting for some of these so called commentators
and so called news anchors to call Democrats on this.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
This is completely legal.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
And when the same stuff happened with Obama and Libya,
or with Clinton and Kosova and Bosnia, there wasn't a
stinct raised by any Democrats at all, not at all.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Didn't exist.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Let's take some calls and the line becomes available at
eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven.
At the top of the next to hour, we're going
to have on Sharon Nerriman, who's an Iranian. She has
definite feelings about that, and I've heard her do other
interviews A week or two ago. I want to get
a perspective. What's going to happen on Monday night and Tuesday.

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Reuters is reporting tonight that the President thinks they'll be
a deal. The deal's got to be that we take
possession of one thousand pounds of the nuclear materials enrichment
uranium by special IAEA can do it and somehow if
the Iran if the Iranian leadership wants to stop doing
what they're doing, there's a path. But I fear because

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they're suicidal and they're homicidal and their genocidal. That's the
last thing they want. They want to be killed. It
is a death cult. They want to die and take
you and me with them. That's a death cult. And
I don't think they're going to say okay. And then
Donald Trump is offering him safe passage to Turkey, Well
that'd be nice. How long would they live in Turkey?

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Do you think a thousand of the worst killers in
the world used God to commit mass murder?

Speaker 4 (24:51):
I don't think. I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
And a sidelight I wish Pope Leo had not gone
into the Blue Mosque, which is in in Turkey. Been
there myself once or twice, and it's a wonderful facility.
But I think it sends a little bit of a
wrong message, especially on Easter. But nonetheless that's a different viewpoint.
I'm not going to say much bad about Pope Leo.
I have a guest coming up on the Pope either

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next Sunday or the Sunday after that. Let's go back
to the calls, continue the calls, and we have great
guest schedule later on, especially.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
On this issue.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Plus later on I have Dean Reguez, an astronomer to
the stars to talk about Artemis two and where it is.
That's in about a couple hours from now. Tho, let's
go to the calls. Let's go to Dan and des Moines, Iowa,
the home of the Hawkeyes. Dan and Iowa, Welcome to
the Bill Cunningham Show. And Dan, how are you?

Speaker 5 (25:41):
I'm good?

Speaker 6 (25:41):
Bill. Hey, I have just a real quick question, pick
your brain. What do you think about whether or not
we've considered or maybe we have already considered it and
put it off. The airlifting weapons to certain parts of
Iran where there may be Iranians who are.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
According according to news accounts, Donald Trump has sent thousands
and thousands of weapons to the Kurds, which is a
minority inside of Iran, and that availability is also happening
with israelis there. The southern cities of Iran are hundreds
of miles from Tehran and I and the goal I'm

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not making making this up is to take over a
few Iranian cities in the south and then monitor the
reaction of the Revolutionary Guard through satellites and drone technology
to determine what is happening, and then if army units
are running toward that city, to obliterate them. And I
know that's being done. The Kurds and other minorities in

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Iran are being armed.

Speaker 6 (26:43):
Well, I hope it works.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
Yeah, what's your feeling is like a normal person?

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (26:49):
When the aviator was discovered through bravery in the entire time,
when the seat ejection took place, that's when they monitoring began.
They knew exactly where he was and the Democratic Party
was ready to launch on Donald Trump if Iran would
use that as a political trophy, And there was a

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little bit of air left the balloon this morning on
the talk shows when that didn't happen, and they quickly
changed talking points to the twenty fifth Amendment. Do you
think the Democrats want America to win this war?

Speaker 4 (27:24):
You know, I'm a little.

Speaker 6 (27:26):
Bit concerned that they're putting too much emphasis on the negatives.
And it doesn't help us with the war, that's for sure.
And I think it's political, of course.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yeah, I'm looking at at a Gallup poll. I don't
know if you can rely upon Gallup poles, but it
says in this recent Gallup poll this, when the American
people are asked, do you want the Democrats to control
the Congress, sixty eight percent say no. When you asked
the same same question about Republicans, fifty eight percent they know.

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So it looks as if the American people want neither
party to control the Congress, which I thought, you know, yeah,
that's that's you know, Republicans right now aren't too popular
because they're sticking with Principal and the Democrats when you
talk out with some of their policies about bringing Puerto
Rico and Washington, d C. As a state, open up
the southern border, medicaid for all, free spending, and of

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course go to college if you're illegal.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
There's no tuition if you if you go.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
To Iowa illegally, a bide administration would pay for your
college and kids go to Iowa State or Iowa and
whatever go to Drake.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
They got to parents got to pay. People don't like that.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
So the American people don't like Democrats and they don't
like Republicans, but they like Democrats less than they like Republicans.
And Donald Trump's not too popular right now. He's got
an overapproval rating of forty forty five percent, which isn't
good in fact, in what in twenty twenty four when
he won forty nine percent approval factor, he's down a
little bit. Hey, since I got you, Dan, what do

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you think about the uh? The candas Owens and Tucker
Carlson's kind of blaming these conspiracy theories that we have
the first president has Jewish grandchildren and that bb nets
and yaw who is controlling Donald Trump?

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Do you buy that? You know?

Speaker 6 (29:15):
I'm not sure Candace and Tucker are. I'm not sure
where they are is right now? There They confused me terribly.
I don't know if they're trying to get ratings or what.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
Well, how about Eric Eric Kirk.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Erica Kirk is suffering as any widow would and uh,
Candas Owens says that quite loudly, that Erica Kirk is
a liar, that she unwinlly participated in the killing of
her own husband, and that the turning point us a
security team knew he was going to be killed that day,
and that Tyler Robinson, the murderer, didn't he was a

(29:53):
he was a putts. Uh, he didn't, he wasn't the
one doing the shooting. That somehow there was some explosive
device put on Charlie Kirk's body that blew him up.
And I'm listening, I'm thinking, I thought the grassy nose
was a little bit unusual and this to me, But
to call Erica Kirk a liar a widow, how does
another woman do that?

Speaker 6 (30:15):
It seems like it's a tension getting problem again. I
can't see that happening.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
No, no, no, I don't think so. Thanks for your calling.
God bless you. Let's continue with more. Let's go to
a Bob in Wisconsin, the home of Luke Fickle, my
friend and many others. And Bob, Welcome to the Bill
Cunningham Show from Wisconsin. And Bob, how are you hey.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
I'm doing great, but I hope you and yours are
doing good.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Deal happy Easter. I went to Mass Easter vigil. Whenever
I go to church, I feel better coming out, Unlike
many in the Muslim world. When I come out of Mass,
I feel good to my fellow man and a lot
of the Muslim world. On Friday night, when they come out,
they want to kill a bunch of people. And that's
a dangerous place to be in parts of the world.
But that the crist has risen. He is my Lord

(31:02):
and my savior. I'm a practicing Roman Catholic and I
love my faith.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
Please go ahead, sure words, my man, Sure words. I
have a question.

Speaker 6 (31:11):
For you, and I hope you can explain this to me.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
It's not a trap question in any way.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (31:18):
I believe that President when he says that they took
out the air force over there, most of the radar
and stuff, and all of their navy and everything like that.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
We got our thumb on them.

Speaker 5 (31:31):
How can they control the street?

Speaker 4 (31:35):
I mean, our navy is there.

Speaker 6 (31:37):
Come on, let's just.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Well, because there's things like shoulder fired missiles that an
Iranian Revolutionary Guard member could come out of a cave
or a crevice with a shoulder fired missile and shoot
a tanker. They could put certain minds that are very
difficult to the size of approximate free and they have

(32:01):
magnetic aspects to them, and so you can't. The Straits
are hermus which might be now the Straits of Trump.
By the way, if someone pops up on her shoulder
fired missile and lets it go in the civil context,
not too many of those who operate oil tankers want
to take that risk. And so right now, according to
reporting tonight, the Iranians will open the strait tomorrow, but

(32:23):
you have to register with the Iranian government and pay
a two million dollars bounty to pass. That gives the
Iranians veto power over the strait, and that'll never happen.
Our neighbors and friends and our associates, our allies in
the Middle East don't want that. The Emirates, for example,
Saudi Arabia, they hate the Iranians more than the Jews,
and Iranians don't like each other. Parts of Islam completely

(32:46):
hate the other part of Islam that she is, and
the Suonis is what it's called and ease of those
two sects have different kind of aspects where they're angry
with each other. Muslims kill more Muslims, and muslim kill
Christians or Jews, and so to say to the Iranians,
you know what, uh, we're gonna We're gonna pay you
two million dollars a tanker, and we will and the
Ranians will decide what tankers go through that'll never fly,

(33:08):
and we can't guarantee passage until that's more or less done.
In the civil context, the operators of some of these
oil tankers don't want to go through when one person
with a shoulder fired missile could blow up an oil
tanker and and have an ecological disaster along with no
one's gonna get on the ship. And that's the problem.
And so until the Iranian people say we're done, we're

(33:29):
not fighting anymore. And if you do it, the Iranian
have got the Iranian armies got to patrol their side
of the straits or removes to make sure that doesn't happen,
and that means they have to complete change of the regime.
I got a guest coming up later that says the
process is underway in the southern cities. It's happening as
we speak tonight. And according to media accounts, the Iranian
people kept the Revolutionary Guard from finding the pilot. I'm thinking, well,

(33:54):
I wonder if that, well, that's a report. I don't
know if it's true or not, but I've read it
that a White House source that we were the Irani
people helped us greatly. It's like, well, maybe something's happening there,
you know, Bob, that we don't know about.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Maybe. Yeah, Well, thank you Seric, thank you.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
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(34:34):
continue in every stop. We simply continue. I think those
weapons being used that have been rumored about for a
while against the Iranian military, that we don't know about
and maybe a little bit under the radar, but I
know they exist. Just talk to the Venezuelan army about that.
They don't know what they all hit them. That we
have weapons that other countries do not have. That When

(34:57):
the aviator, the lieutenant colonel, came out of his F fifteen,
his position was known almost instantaneously by the American military,
and they got himself into an area a crevass up
on a mountain ridge, and that they knew where he was,
and they watched him through drone technology and also the satellites.

(35:18):
And the bravery and courage of those who went to
risk their lives to save him is one of the
hallmarks of our military. Leave no one behind. Have a
guest coming up later to talk about one issue, and
that is, what if the Iranian people themselves, because their
gun shy or whatever over time thirty five forty thousand slaughtered,

(35:38):
they don't want to fight for their own country. What
if they're so beaten down that they understand that if
they rise up, they will be killed immediately, if not sooner.
I think the Italians are an example of what happened
to Benito Mussolini and his wife. They were hung up,
strung up, and torn apart, and the Italian people arose.

(36:01):
But because of what's happened to them the past forty
seven years or so, are the Iranian people themselves ready
to fight for their own country the way American patriots
did a concord in Lexington, Our lives and our fortune
will go towards this country. The patriots who founded our
great country risked their lives in so much more. And

(36:22):
I wonder if the Irunian people are built from the
same cloth.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
I have my doubts. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
I don't want to rock. I don't want Vietnam. I
don't want Afghanistan. You don't want that. I don't want that.
Nobody wants that. But whenever there's a great success, like
this morning with the American aviator being located in return injured,
but nonetheless he was located, found and guarded and protected
and came back, the Democrats appear to be happy. Senate

(36:50):
Democrats are happy when America has failure. They perceive a
success as somehow bad for them, and it's an amazing thing.
But I wonder, because we thought Iraq and Afghanistan give
those individuals the chance. Remember that Afghanistan and Iraq had
the thumb and the ink.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
They voted away we go.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
George Bush came on with me at the time and said, look,
we're going to know if my venture here is successful
in about fifteen or twenty years. If if Freedom's flag
is planted in Baghdad and it's a functional society, I
would have succeeded well. He failed miserably because the Iraqi
people failed miserably, and the policies of Dick Cheney and
George Bush were so bad. By cleaning out everybody in

(37:33):
the Bath Party, there was nobody to run the country.
And in Venezuela, Trump's not making that mistake. Let's continue
with more. Coming up next will be and Iranian who
spent quite a bit of time in an Iranian prison.
I'm going to ask Sharan Nerriman whether or not the
Iranian people will fight for themselves. Let's continue with more.
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Speaker 3 (38:52):
Billy Cunningham, the Great Americans. So much stuff is going
on now with Iran. It's really unbelievable. Monday, Monday evening
and at Tuesday morning or Wednesday, all hell could break
loose or not, depending upon what if the straits or
her moves opens or not. According to one report on Reuters,
the President Donald Trump is saying that he anticipates the
deal it's going to take place. I'd be shocked if

(39:13):
one did occur that made any sense to the rest
of the world. Iran is run by genocidal, homicidal, suicidal
maniacs who have no desire for peace. In fact, they
want war. They think death is the is the way
to get to heaven. Jona, you and I now is
Sharon Nerreman. She's a former political prisoner in Iran. She
knows many friends and associates remained behind. And once again,

(39:36):
Sharon Nerriman, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. As we
sit here, now put yourself, if you can, in the
mind and the place of average Iranians. What are they
thinking and what do they First of all, what do
they know about what's really going on?

Speaker 4 (39:50):
And second what are their thoughts?

Speaker 9 (39:53):
Well, unfortunately, I think because the internets are shut down
at it's very hard for them to really know the news.

Speaker 10 (40:04):
What is the real news that is going on.

Speaker 9 (40:07):
Of course we do have connection, you know, people are
able to call us from Iran and they are calling
us to ask what is going on and what are
the news because the only thing that they're hearing is
the manufactured news that the Urnian regime tells them. And
unfortunately the satellite also doesn't work as much, so they're

(40:28):
not really having the access to the real news. But anyway,
what it is happening right now is that I'm sure
you know, but the rise of executions in Iran. Since
last Monday, up to now, eleven people have been executed

(40:50):
in Iran. Six of them were the members of Mosia Regna,
the resistance group of opposition in Iran, and the rest
were insurgents that they were arrested in January. So imagine
that the you know, people with no access to the

(41:13):
insurgents and people that have been in prison right now,
they have no access to the legal assistance or there
is no due process for anything that is happening inside
of Iran, and then people are being executed and what
this is but people are hearing every day.

Speaker 10 (41:32):
So what it shows you that the Iranian regime is.

Speaker 9 (41:36):
Really in in it's more afraid of Iranian people and
it's in at war with its own people because they
are afraid of the the more protests, and they're afraid
that people are going to rise up to them.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
I understand that.

Speaker 11 (41:56):
Now.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
I understand that the running people are largely unarmed and
they cannot rise up. If there's I don't know, a
million Iranian army units soldiers, and if there's two hundred
and fifty thousand Revolutionary Guard, that's a million armed young
men that are more than willing to kill their own people.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
And so explain.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
I know, we would like to have the Iranian people
rise up and take control. How do they do that
without weaponry when the regime is willing to kill them
thirty forty thousand people?

Speaker 4 (42:28):
Is that realistic?

Speaker 9 (42:31):
Well? I think at this point people know that for
rising up, enough is not enough. They need armed group
or militias that they need to be able to be
their voice, and you know, they do their work. So
what I can tell you that National Council of Resistance

(42:52):
of Iran has thousands of resistance units inside of Iran,
which is in more than thirty one provinces, and these
people are trained for the you know, gorilla fighting in
each cities, and these are the units that need to

(43:15):
be empowered. And I think the most important thing is
that the policies should be towards empowering people in Iran that.

Speaker 10 (43:24):
They can do the change.

Speaker 9 (43:26):
Decision will be changed by the Iranian people. So and
those units are the basis of National Liberation Army because
at the end of the day, we need to be
the boots on the ground in Iran and we need.

Speaker 10 (43:41):
To do the change.

Speaker 9 (43:42):
And I really think that the people are the majority
of people are fed up with decision.

Speaker 10 (43:51):
They are done with decision.

Speaker 9 (43:53):
And they have concluded that the armed struggle is the
only way that they can feed decision and fight the decision.
Just rising up is not going to be enough and
the regime would have the upper hand. But what is
definitely is clear that the regime is much weaker than

(44:16):
what it's being anticipated or you know being in media
that oh they are strong, but they are not. That's
why they start killing the innocent people that are in
prison or those people who have who are showing their
strength and they are standing up to them. That's why
the region tries to execute them during the war, which

(44:39):
is called really war crime. But they are doing it
why because they're afraid of their own people. That's why
they are executing people and they announce it and they
put it in you know, so many of the internal media.

Speaker 10 (44:55):
And I think.

Speaker 9 (44:57):
It's important for us to help Iranian to have the
access to seek your communications tools, you know, and remove
any bodrier for technology companies so and in satellite connectivity
so people can hear the news, see the news, and

(45:19):
that also they can communicate among themselves and be connected.

Speaker 10 (45:24):
That this is what we really need right now.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
As far as the viewpoint of some that Iran is
going to win this conflict by not losing it, I
hear democrats and many others often talk about the Iranian
regime will not step down. They will they'll go dying.
They're called genocidal, homicidal, and suicidal. They don't want to live,
they want to die, and they would take they would

(45:50):
take the world with them. Would you agree with the
notion and you spent a long time in Iranian prisons,
would you agree with the notions The leaders of Iran
right now are geneticidle. They want to kill Jews, Americans, Christians,
Western Europeans. That they're homicidal, they want to kill their
own people, and they're suicidal, so they don't mind dying

(46:12):
in the process as long as lots of people die
with them, is that accurate?

Speaker 9 (46:17):
Well, what is certain is that this regime is very
brutal and has no ending to it. And they are
the ones that started to terrorist proxies around to intimidate
the world and bring them to the to the table

(46:38):
to continue their appeasement policy. So the true nature of decision,
I think is very clear to everyone around the world
that decisime doesn't stop at anything, killing its own people
or anyone outside of the Iran just to be in
the power, stay in power. But I think what is

(47:01):
important is that the Iranian people will that they do
want to change.

Speaker 10 (47:06):
They do.

Speaker 9 (47:07):
They are fed up the decision and they want to
see the downfall of decision. So we cannot and I
really don't think that, you know, decision is anywhere that
it used.

Speaker 10 (47:20):
To be even a month ago.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
It's weak, it's weaker, much weaker.

Speaker 10 (47:24):
Set hundred, yeah, but a lot weaker.

Speaker 9 (47:27):
But now we have to wise up and we have
to empower Iranian people for the regime church and that's
what is really needed.

Speaker 10 (47:38):
There are we do need national liberation army.

Speaker 9 (47:41):
National liberation army is the key, and that would be
that its own people that the army itself is going
to come from the Iranian people, and the Iranian people
know that they have to have they have to be armed,
and they have to be fighting decision. And I think
the important thing is that we need to focus where it.

(48:07):
You know, the focus needs to be the emergence of
the National Liberation Army strategy and what is the struggle
is between Iranian people and the regime. That's what they
need to focus. And we do have resistance units insight,
so let's bring all the all everything that we can

(48:29):
do as well as like the technology, giving the technology
to the people and also to recognize that there is
the foundation for National Liberation Army and allow those people
to form the National Liberation Army and fight the decision.
Decision is not going to just leave easily. And yes,

(48:51):
if they can bring chaotic and chaos to the world,
they will do it. They're not going to stop at anything.
But they're like miniacs, you know, like Hitler. It's the
end of its regime that was volunteer use twelve year
old to fight for them and use all everything that

(49:13):
they have, the remaining of everything that they have, and
they use it up so that that's why it's important
that we have a clear strategy of how to empowering
people inside of Iran to do the fight of their
the raditions of the regime on their own. That's what
we need to do and that's what we need to focus.

(49:36):
I really think the answer the key would be the
having the National Liberation Army to be formed and to
do the fight decision, and yes this in the decision.
You have to fight them in every street, in every
corner of the across Iran.

Speaker 10 (49:57):
And when a couple of.

Speaker 9 (49:59):
Cities are free from the IRGC and message forces, then
that's the time that you'll see that everything else would
fall down. And that's why it's important to look at
an opposition that has all these plans. And NCRI National
Consul of Resistance of Iran announced the formation of a

(50:22):
provisional government in February twenty eighth, So that shows an
opposition that has thought about every angle and what is
needed for a regime change by the ruining people, and
that's what we need to recognize.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Sharon Nerman, there was a comment by the President ten
days of almost ten days ago that all hell is
going to break Lucy either Monday night Tuesday or Wednesday,
taking out bridges and water plants and oil facilities. And
that's being called by the Democrats in America a war crime.
And I would anticipate that the soldiers and the airmen

(51:00):
who shot down the F fifteen, and thank god we
have both pilots back, they probably use bridges and water
plants and also oil facilities to facilitate what they're doing.
Assuming Tuesday morning Tuesday night occurs and the president in
Israel launches this horrific attack on bridges and water plants

(51:21):
and also oil, what would that mean for the average Iranians?
Democrats say it's a war crime. Democrats say the twenty
fifth Amendments should be should be invoked. The country's on
its back right now. The currency is worthless, there's no
economy whatsoever. And so as a dissident, so to speak,
and I think you're a pro democracy Iranian who spend

(51:41):
a quite a bit of time in prisons in Iran,
would you urge the president, assuming a deal can't be
struck sometime Monday or Tuesday, to let the hounds of
hell loose and to take down completely the nation of Iran?

Speaker 4 (51:55):
Would you favor that?

Speaker 10 (51:58):
Well, I'm not president.

Speaker 9 (52:01):
I'm not a decision maker, but I think the average
Iranian would be under a lot of a lot more
pressure if anything like that happened. So I would urge
the administration to take a look at.

Speaker 10 (52:21):
Is what else it.

Speaker 9 (52:22):
Can be done, you know, Like you know, I really
think that's supporting the opposition and allowing the opposition to
do the job. I think that's the most important thing,
because that's what the Erinian regime fear the most.

Speaker 10 (52:37):
They are afraid of.

Speaker 9 (52:38):
People are fighting back, and that's what we need to
help people empower Iranian people for the change, and that's
the change that it should be.

Speaker 10 (52:51):
It will come.

Speaker 9 (52:52):
We know that people are at the end of the day,
this is the Iranian people who have to fight decision
and they will fight back decisime, I you know, and that's.

Speaker 10 (53:04):
What they need to focus on.

Speaker 9 (53:05):
How we can empower the ordinary Iranian people that know
they have got to the conclusion that they have to
fight decision themselves. How we can help them to do
their job, to finish the job and to release Iran
from all these miniacs that are controlling Iran and really

(53:28):
bringing destruction, the total destructions to the people. They are
imposing it, and this regime is responsible for all of
this that we are seeing right now.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
Lastly, Sharon Nerriman, is it fair to say that the
Iranian leadership knows if they voluntarily give up power, they
have a chance to live somewhere else, like Turkey is
offered them, come to Turkey if you want refuge there.
And they know that if the Iranian people take over,
they're dead. And so the one or two thousand that

(54:04):
control Iran actually in charge, is it their viewpoint that
if they give up power that they're dead.

Speaker 10 (54:13):
Yes, they well they are.

Speaker 9 (54:16):
They're yeah, they're afraid because they know as soon as
they give up the power, and that's why they not
you know, they are willing to see that Iran is
totally distructed, but they would be able to control Iran
a little longer. You know.

Speaker 10 (54:36):
They also know that this is the end of decision.

Speaker 9 (54:39):
Whatever is left they are, they know that this is
their end, but they are trying to buy time, and
they don't care about the well being of average Iranian
or the infrastructure that we have in Iran. They don't
care about any of those. They just want to see
that they are in power. So that's why they are

(55:02):
willing to do anything is possible. That's why again we
get back to the point that Iranians now, people that
live in Iran and I talk to them every day,
to different people calling me, they know.

Speaker 10 (55:16):
They have to fight fight that decision.

Speaker 9 (55:19):
They know that the armed struggle is the only way,
the only solution left.

Speaker 10 (55:25):
Everyone knows that.

Speaker 9 (55:27):
So we have to think of how we can help
them to be armed, and also how this liberation army
national liberation army to form and who has all these solutions?
Which opposition has all these solutions and plans, And that's

(55:48):
what we need to focus on that and and and
start the dialogue so we can we can help Iranian people,
Ironians and I'm sure, uh everyone that is outside of
Iran is willing to join and to fight back this
regime to downfall of decision, because if the Regin falls tomorrow,

(56:09):
it's much better than if it falls the next days.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
Sharon Nerman about about thirty seconds remaining, are you very
confident that America with their allies, within the next say,
three months, that there's going to be a change in
the Iranian regime and the Iranian people will be free,
say in the next three months, we have thirty seconds.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
What do you say.

Speaker 10 (56:35):
I'm very very hopeful for that.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
I have hope. I think this is the moment, correct,
this is the moment. This is it, this is this
is the time.

Speaker 10 (56:49):
We have to finish the job.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
That's my And once you're into it, at this point,
there's only one way to win a war, and that
is by complete victory. And once you're into it, you
got to win it. And god darn it, we're in
it right now. Sharon Nerman from Iran. Once again, thanks
for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Sharon you're
you're a great American and a great Iranian. Thank you
very much, Thank you, God bless you. Let's continue there

(57:12):
it is well, let's continue Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday,
Billy cunning Him up against the clock, of course, but
listen to the words of Sharon Nerman. She knows exactly
what's happening in Iran, and victory will occur if we
stick with it. Bill Cunningham, the Great American with you
every Sunday night to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first

(57:44):
of all, explain what the ballistics have shown and why
they don't We don't think they show much at all,
but many said it's the smoking gun.

Speaker 4 (57:53):
Explain that to the American people.

Speaker 11 (57:55):
Yeah, thanks for having me on. So yeah, So basically,
what the ATF did, and this is what the sort
of like the non controversy has sort of stemmed from,
is you had the Daily Mail sort of go with
this headline claiming that the bullets that was test fired
from Robinson's rifle didn't match the bullet that was inside
of Charlie. But basically, if you look at what they

(58:16):
actually looked at, the ats is when a bullet is
fired from a gun, it goes through the barrel, the
hard still the barrel versus the soft copper of the
jacket of the bullet. It leaves behind on the copper
jacket these marks and grooves that are unique to the
rifle that fired them, and it's consistent from bullets to bullet.
But what was in Charlie there was not enough copper

(58:38):
recoverable and being that was able to be put back
together to actually identify those markings because it's basically a
fingerprint for a weapon. Some of your listeners might remember
a lot of like the old like either CSI CSI Miami,
where they'd be looking at the bullets under microscopes to
like determine, like if the markings match. It's that type

(58:59):
of thing where basically there was not enough intact copper
recovered from Charlie to be able to compare it to
a test bullet fired. And basically this happens a lot
of times in different cases, and there's other evidence that
can be used in a case to bring somebody to justice.
In this case, it's his family turning them in. The
messages the killer sent to his training boyfriend and girlfriend,

(59:22):
whatever it is, and the messages that it basically almost
admitting to this.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
Right, he confessed, and I guess you can't get away
from that that. Tyler Robinson actually confessed a few times,
and he fits the profile. It was his weapon, and
his fingerprint was on the weapon, correct fingerprint. He left
the gun behind, which is a rifle behind, which is
really stupid. And then ever was a two to three
day search. He was located. His father kind of turned

(59:49):
him in, and so I guess the headline was the
bullet the kill.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
Shot didn't match the rifle. Isn't that misleading? Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:00:00):
Exactly, So you had the Daily Mail, one would a
thing that claimed the headline and tweets that claimed that
there was no match at all, but there wasn't anything
to match. It's like saying they sound like a partial fingerprint,
but it's like only one groove of a fingerprint and saying, oh,
it doesn't match. There wasn't enough there for them to
actually try to even do the match because there was

(01:00:22):
not enough copper intact copper pieces for them to pull
the markings to compare it to the test shot from
the rifle.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
And this is a little bit gruesome, but it is
thought because the round only hit muscle and tissue, there
should have been more of the bullet remaining. But in
reality it could have hit a vertebra in the neck
that would have shattered the round into pieces and the
shrap now saying it wasn't available to be matched, am
I correct about that?

Speaker 11 (01:00:48):
Yeah, that is a possibility. And there are definitely different
ballistics videos that you can watch online from like Brendon Herrera,
Kentucky Ballistics, any one of these that will that shoot
rounds into listics Gelatin for for content creation, and you
can see that with especially with like rifle bullets and
stuff like that. But they're they're meant to sort of

(01:01:10):
splay open and when they hit certain materials, even just
flesh sort of display open and flatten, and they can
possibly just shred to pieces. Or if they hit they
hit bone, they can break to pieces. That's sort of
what they're designed to do, because they're they're designed to
dump energy into a target.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
I've seen rifle shots in a gelatine which isn't very thick,
and it will it will change and shatter the round
even though it doesn't hit a bone. It will actually
and that's what is intended to do. Can you give
me your just your opinion, what's behind this? I try
to watch some of that. I try to I try

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to watch Candizone a little bit, so I found out
what she's talking about. She got the CIA involved, got
the got the Israelis involved, that they have the security
team for Charlie Kirk. They were involved, and you got
the metal necklace moving inappropriately. The microphone was an explosive device.
I'm I'm watching this and I'm I mean, can can

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you tell me why? Why is this a thing especially
among conservative media to get the Jews, the c i
A involved. Jeffrey Epstein was involved in this somehow, and
I'm going what.

Speaker 11 (01:02:23):
Instead the Egyptians?

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
The Egyptians? Can you can you walk away?

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
These are bright Cannon owensin, Tucker Carlson are bright people.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
They're probably geniuses.

Speaker 5 (01:02:33):
What what what?

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
Why Why are they into this?

Speaker 11 (01:02:37):
I I it's from in my just to put on
my own personal hat here. I think a lot of
it is, uh. They they they know well that this
isn't true, and it's a lot of it is they're
doing it for the clicks. They're doing it for the traffic,
They're doing it for the hate watchers. It is about
generating buzz for them and their programs, their products to

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get people to do more. But that's what we saw,
at least that's my belief with even the Daily Mails
deceptive headline, where you have people sharing their tweet, sharing
their reports and just either retweeting it because they believe
it or retweeting it because they want they're trying to

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go against it, strike it down and refute it. So
now their their story and their tweet is going viral,
they're going to get the ad revenue from X for it.
And then if you go even to the Daily Mail website,
like you go there and you're just bombarding. If you
don't have ad blocker on, you're just bombarded with ads
on both of the columns, pop ups in your face,
ads between almost every paragraph. Seemingly like a lot of

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this is to generate revenue, generate cloud and generate people
like interest so people can get more of their material.
It's it's a me, me me financial thing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
And so you're you're saying that without clickbait, they sell
called podcasters don't even exist without that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
So and you need clickbait.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
And so I would not have gone to the Daily
Mail story except the headline that the kill shot and
the bullet didn't match the rifle.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
I'm thinking, what is that?

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
And then I'll watch Candice Oways thinking, Okay, I want
to hear why she has this intense discussed for Erica Kirk.
I'm trying to understand where she's going. I finally give
up and see I can't beg this anymore. And so
you think it's clickbait money, that's what's behind it.

Speaker 11 (01:04:26):
Yeah, I think a lot of it is clickbait stuff,
or maybe even in some of their instances, probably Candace
she actually believes that, which is kind of not even
good for to say about her herself there. But basically, yeah,
a lot of it is, and like I would respect
they're they're a little bit in that. Like there's plenty
of podcasters out there who can make a name for

(01:04:47):
themselves who make good content without going into this type
of stuff. If it's like either comedy stuff, they're talking
about sports stuff like that. Like, there are plenty of
different podcasts that don't deal with this, even on the
the political right world.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
They'll avoid this.

Speaker 11 (01:05:02):
Type of thing and don't go with that, and they're
able to produce good content that gets thumb in audience
and is a positive message for the right that doesn't
have to deal with this type of conspiracy theories with
grim implications.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
And this was video. We saw it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
I forced myself two or three times to watch it.
I watch him die right there, and then a security team,
what would you need you jump into the scene quickly
to try to say, to save Charlie, which was not possible.
But now they're putting things in their pocket that shouldn't
be put in their pocket. I'm looking at at this
one website that said Charlie Kirk is still alive. I'm

(01:05:39):
looking another one say who killed Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
I'm thinking, what, Yeah, I don't know. I don't know
what to say.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
And and and then when the trial tape Tyler Robinson's trial,
I hope it's I hope it's broadcasting. I want to
see the evidence to put these things to rest. But
there's almost an unnatural hatred for Erica Kirk of taking
over that she was somehow involved in this, that she
wasn't at the scene, she was somewhere else, and when

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she found out about it, she went there immediately. And
when she went there, somebody in her entourage charged twelve
hundred dollars on a website to get some clothing. The
reason was she went there so quickly, she didn't take
a bag. But every action of Erica Kirk's being examined
by the far right to make a look as if
she was involved in her husband's death, and that he
didn't want to marry her, that Donald Trump got involved

(01:06:32):
somehow and forced forced the marriage upon her. I'm reading
this stuff and I'm losing my mind. Can't we just understand?
Turning Point USA has been a tremendously positive effect on
American society. What Charlie Kirk did over a ten twelve
year period was impossible to do, and he did it.
He turned young Americans toward conservatism. And now that he

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was murdered and it was videoed and the evidence is
beyond approach that yes, somehow he was murdered in that situation.
And these conspiracy theories have the Utah campus police involved too,
because one of the security guys said, who's got the
coverage of the rooftops and according to media accounts, they said,

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we'll have those covered, and then Charlie Kirk's team did
not follow through that day to make sure they were covered.
So whatever, and who killed Charlie Kirk to cover up
the Epstein files.

Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
I'm going I'm losing my mind, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
And Nick, give me your thoughts and where this thing's headed,
if anywhere, before we talk about what's happening in Iran.

Speaker 11 (01:07:37):
Yeah, I'm just hoping that right now it's it's it
should be dying out, But unfortunately, with the Daily Mails report,
it's going to add more fuel to this fire. But
just because it's them and everybody else just trying to
generate con content or generate traffic for themselves rather and
just trying to make a buck off of it. It's
pretty disgusting.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
About this this CNN Candice Owens won't take back conspiracy theories.
Owens has instead suggested France, Israel, and Egypt might have
been involved, that Charlie Kirk was betrayed by people close
to him.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
I'm going, so it isn't Tyler Robinson.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
It's France, Israel and Egypt got involved in this big
conspiracy in order to take away responsibilities or decoveries of
the Epstein files.

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
I'm thinking, have I lost my mind or what? Leave
that to the side.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
I'm watching now what's happening in Iran with the down
to F fifteen, et cetera. And now we have Joe
Scarborough and others saying that Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth
is on your website NewsBusters dot org, Nick Vonacerro, that
they've committed war crimes and that when the Democrats take
over in the Hague, there's going to be Donald Trump's

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going to be a war criminal.

Speaker 4 (01:08:52):
It's one thing.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
After November, if the polls are right, the Democrats going
to impeach him forever. Then when he gets out of office,
he'll be sued in died it all over again. But
according to NBC News. According to ms now, Donald Trump
right now is a war criminal taking out that bridge.

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
Explain that to the American people.

Speaker 11 (01:09:11):
Yeah, it's it's absolute bunk. And it's basically them just
trying to scrap for anything to try to put a
negative spin on taking out our ran. This the number
one state sponsored terrorism in the world. They're trying there.
They're also saying, like him striking oil infrastructure, where we
considered a war crime. Meanwhile, they all support Ukraine, and

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Ukraine is striking Russian oil facilities, and you don't hear
any of them calling saying that Ukraine is Ukraine is
committing those war crimes at all. And even when it
comes to what Trump is saying about striking the power
plants and stuff like that, that's there are ways to
hit the power plants with out destroying them like they
want him to do. There's there are things that we

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can launch at power lines to cover them with metal
that just takes out the power lines, not the facilities themselves.
They want this to be as bad looking as possible.
They wanted to they go along with these narratives to
just make Trump look as evil as possible. This is
what came out in a defamation shoot against ms MSNBC
a few years ago, a couple of years ago, rather

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where they will go along, and this came out in
discovery and they ended up having to settle. They basically
will come out and say they'll pick a story, go
with a narrative, even though that narrative is not true
and it's sort of shady. If it invokes the type
of imagery that they would like with Trump, like Kovorkian,
any sort of Nazi thing, They're going to run with it.

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And that's exactly what they're doing in this case.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
Well, on Thursday, Joe Scarborough ms NOW delivered a legal
judgment on potential US strikes against Irani infrastructure. That's a
war crime that's taken out, the dams, the bridge that
was taken out, and maybe the power plants, et cetera,
maybe carg Island, and that ending up the idea that

(01:11:01):
now the NATO allies, most of them are kind of
against what's going on, and as a consequence, they're in
charge of the Hague for international war crime to get
a warrant out for Donald Trump's arrest. So we can't
you know, you thought it was over after what Donald
Trump went through the first time, which are the ninety
two counts indictments of being arrested sitting in a filthy
New York City courtroom Alan Alvin Bragg for like seven

(01:11:24):
or eight weeks, then on to Atlanta, then on the Nevada,
onto Arizona, and it goes on and on, and they're
getting ready when he leaves office. I pray to God
in January of twenty twenty nine, that's when the fund
begins again. From their perspective, it won't be enough to
impeach them. They're going to have to federally criminally indict him.
If the Democrat wins the presidency in twenty twenty eight,

(01:11:46):
here we go again with Donald Trump. At that point,
the poor guy is going to be eighty three years old,
and then they're going to go after him for war crimes,
including the American pilots, including Pete Hegseth, including the Chairman
of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. They're all going to
be indicted in the Hague for war crimes because during
a war they took out a bridge and took out
some power stations. And I thought, at some point, you know,

(01:12:09):
I thought it would be over after the Democrats what
they did to Donald Trump and seventy five other people
around him, and now it's kind of coming back the
other way.

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
Pam Bondi's gone.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
I would anticipate the new acting ag is gonna do
some things to make it more difficult and make it easier,
shall we say, for the Democrats who commit a crime
to be indicted, and then it's going to continue on
in twenty twenty nine and twenty thirty. It's not gonna stop.
We're going to keep going on and on and on.
And it begins with Joe Scarborough and Democrats saying this
is a war crime, and war crime is committed by

(01:12:41):
war criminals, and these criminals, that is Donald Trump and
others must be arrested. Well, we have to run Nick Vonacerro,
and we'll see what happens with Charlie Kirk, who lived
a good life.

Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
He was a good man.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
There's a grieving widow with a couple of small kids,
and suddenly the conservative media, the left, the far right
wing of the right wing of the conservative media, is
blaming Erica Kirk, the Chinese, the Russians, the Egyptians, the Jews.
Everybody's responsible except Tyler Robinson, and you think about this,

(01:13:15):
can you imagine these other countries. We have to pick
one person to be the patsy. Let's pick Tyler Robinson
to work for us to kill Charlie Kirk, and let's
have him dating this one furry character, and then he's
going to confess to the whole thing. His fingerprint is
going to be on the weapon. And guess what, we'll
find somebody else as responsible. Can anybody sell this to anybody?

(01:13:37):
Does this work in the real world?

Speaker 11 (01:13:41):
Yeah, unfortunately, it does seem like there's some people that
are interested in and want to try to buy that
type of narrative. And just to go back to what
you were saying, like with the war crime stuff, like yeah,
what you pointed out, what they want to go after
the pilots and stuff. They're willing the left and the
media or willing to throw American service members who are

(01:14:02):
putting their lives on the line under the bus just
so they can quote unquote get Trump right. And they're
willing to throw away American sovereignty to drag Americans. But
in front of the Hague, like the only like international
if you talk to international experts and foreign politicisers, they'll
tell you. International law is kind of like a thing
that really doesn't exist because like a country needs to

(01:14:25):
willingly subject themselves to the Hague and these foreign these
laws because there's no way to actually enforce it, and
countries tend not to do it because it gives up
their sovereignties. So they want to give up American sovereignty
and they want to punish American service members just to
get Trump.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
Well, we got it run.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
But even Santa m Kelly a few weeks I talked
about disobeying orders and it's it's unbelievable what's coming for
Donald Trump after he gets out of office and everyone
connected to him, which is what they did five or
six years ago. We got to run NewsBusters dot Org.
And Nick Fondacaro, you're great American and thanks for coming
on the Bill Cunningham Show.

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
Thank you, Nick.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
Thanks for having me on Bill Cunningham The Great American
Live with you every Sunday night. And if you have
some time, check out NewsBusters dot Org that chronicles the
left wing media bias. Did you have a sense that
when the second pilot was recovered about twenty four hours
ago and Democrats thought it was bad for them. Did

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you have a sense they were ready to launch on
the president this morning on all the talk shows and
then had to change their talking points. So if you
I somehow pleased with the fact that an American aviator
is alive and found, I think you got a problem.
You should see someone professionally. And when this morning I
heard so many Senate Democrats talk about, you know what,

(01:15:49):
the twenty fifth Amendment needs to be imposed and put
JD Vance in the White House. Where were they when
Joe Biden was mentally incompetent, one might ask, they were
silent as a duck. Well, let's contake you with more
coming up next to Dean Rigus talk about the Artemis
two and more, Go Cunningham.

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Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
By Billy Cunningham, the great American of course, Artemis two
is on its way to the Moon, around the Moon
and back and a great message today astronaut Victor Glover
send an Easter message to Earth. Quote whether you celebrated
or not, whether you believe in God or not, this
is an opportunity for us to remember where we are,
who we are and uh, and that we are the

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same thing and that we got to this through this together.
Quote unquote from one of the astronauts joining you and
I now is the astronaut astronomer astronomer to the stars.
That is Dean Regas. Dean Regas, welcome again to the
Bill Cunningham shown. First of all, Dean, where's Artemis two
now as we speak? And then, uh, where's it going?
Where's it coming from? What's happening? Great Easter message? Give

(01:17:43):
me a full report what's happening now with Artemis two.

Speaker 7 (01:17:47):
Glad to be here with you on this momentous event
that's happening. I mean, this mission Artemist two is one
for the ages, sending people around the Moon and back.
So as of right around now, they're about little us
than sixty thousand miles from the moon, so they are
almost there. They're gonna get around to the backside of

(01:18:07):
the Moon tomorrow afternoon, and so that's when they officially
will get that full view of I'm waiting for that
view of the Moon in the foreground with the little
tiny Earth in the background where everybody is, and it's
that's expected tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
Can you tell us why is the mission happening? I
was around, maybe you weren't with Apollo. One small step
for a man, one giant lead for mankind. What is
the purpose of the mission?

Speaker 5 (01:18:35):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:18:36):
Yeah, I mean the last time we've done this was
nineteen seventy two. I was bored a little bit after that.
So I've never seen anything experiencing and quite like this.
And so the you know, the whole thing of going
back to the Moon is this long drawn out process
because it takes so much money. Number one takes so
much no how, it takes a little bit of luck

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and a lot of engineering. And so it was after
nineteen seventy two I think that the NASA and the
general public kind of thought, well, we did it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
We're not going to set up a base.

Speaker 7 (01:19:09):
We beat the Russians to the Moon, and so going
back it's been a long haul, that's for sure. It's
been a long wait, and that's just because I think
there wasn't any real strategic advantage to go. There wasn't
like they're going to bring back moon rocks and make
us all rich and that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:19:25):
It's more of.

Speaker 7 (01:19:26):
Exploration and you know, kind of who's in charge of
space and so there could be a little bit of
a space race going on again with China this time
that they want to send people back to the Moon.
But this is hopefully just the first step towards some
more you know, human space flight and exploration.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
When I spoke to a few weeks ago about why
this is happening and why the moon, and you brought
up an interesting point I want to ferret out from
you a little more.

Speaker 5 (01:19:55):
That the Moon is.

Speaker 4 (01:19:57):
Part of the Earth.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
Explain how the collisions took place between the Earth and
some other small planet or large asteroid that it hit
the Earth, and from the Earth the moon rocks formed,
circled the Earth and eventually got to where it is today.
Explain how the Moon was created by the Earth.

Speaker 7 (01:20:18):
It's one of the most fascinating, remarkable, and almost unbelievable
things that we've we've figured out, is where the Moon
came from. Because it's you know, our moon is very
large compared to our planet. Compared to all the other
planets out there, they all have much smaller moons than
the planets themselves. Some of the moons formed with the planets.

(01:20:38):
Some of the moons were captured by their planet. Ours
was blasted off of us. And so the theory went
that the Earth was struck by a very large object,
almost the size of Mars. This was way back when
before people, way before air, before water. The Earth was
still molten, still cooling, and it hit the Earth with

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such force, broke off a piece of the Earth that
scattered off and made a ring around the Earth for
a long time, which would have been a beautiful sights.

Speaker 6 (01:21:07):
See.

Speaker 7 (01:21:08):
Then those particles all came together by gravity and then
formed into the.

Speaker 4 (01:21:12):
Moon that we see up there at night. It's it's
that we're the only planet that has that kind of
moon system.

Speaker 7 (01:21:19):
Explain how Apollo eleven proved that. Well, yeah, so before that,
everybody was like, oh, okay, that's a good theory. That
sounds pretty ridiculous, but yeah, all right, sure. But and
so new Armstrong and buzz aldron Land in nineteen sixty
nine they bring back moon rocks and samples, and the
geologists just go nuts over these things because they're like,

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what is where'd you get these rocks?

Speaker 4 (01:21:42):
And it's like, well, you know, I was on the Moon,
you know, maybe you saw me on TV.

Speaker 7 (01:21:46):
And they figure out these are very very similar to
Earth rocks. The they're almost identical. There's only a few differences,
and so that sealed the deal with the theory is
that these rocks that new Armstrong brought back were I said, yep,
they were just like old some of the oldest Earth
rocks are very similar to the oldest Moon rocks.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
So the DNA of the Moon through the rocks brought
back by Neil Armstrong and buzz Aldron matched the DNA
of the rocks on Earth.

Speaker 4 (01:22:16):
Essentially, that's it.

Speaker 7 (01:22:17):
The fingerprints were very similar, just slight differences, and it's
the only way they could explained that way, because you know,
Mars rocks we see are completely different than than ours,
and you know from the rovers.

Speaker 4 (01:22:28):
They can tell us that.

Speaker 7 (01:22:30):
But having these actual big, you know, sample sizes, was
was huge talk about it being.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
A hoax, and of course I met Neil Armstrong from
Cincinnati a couple of times on the golf course with
Neil Armstrong. I didn't bring it up to him, of course,
because that would be insulting.

Speaker 4 (01:22:49):
But what evans do you have, Dean Reguez?

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
The whole thing wasn't a hoax put together about Hollywood,
other than the fact that I met a couple of
the astronauts on Apollo eleven and you meet Michael Collins.
I met buzz Aldron and Neil Armstrong, and I didn't
bring it up to them because that's highly offensive.

Speaker 4 (01:23:05):
What proof do you have it was in a hoax?

Speaker 7 (01:23:09):
I'm glad you didn't bring it up because you probably
saw that one when buzz Aldron, you know, popped the
one guy that I touched him. You give a little
punch of crunch. They gave a little chin music. So
Neil Armstrong was probably not going to do that, but
he would give you a stare down, that's for sure.
I would say that, you know, my best evidence is
that you look at all those videos of them on

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the surface of the Moon, and so that's the part
that is unfakeable. You can't fake moon gravity, uh, because
it's one sixth of what is on Earth. The way
they move, they you know, go up with the same force.
But they come down with one six gravity, and those
videos of them walking on the moon, every little speck
of dust that they kick up and fall with one

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six gravity, it is unfakeable. And I know it's unfakeable
because in movies today when we show people on the Moon,
they don't even do that in movie today with CGI
Dean May is completely unfakable. It is.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
It's kind of like, you know, the Grassy Knoll. But
this thing is is provable. It's if you don't believe
it's so bit live your own life. Secondly, the plan
is to land back on the Moon in twenty twenty eight.
The Chinese want to do it in twenty twenty nine
or twenty thirty. So how does this mission Artemis two
play in the landing on the Moon and establishing a

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base there.

Speaker 4 (01:24:25):
How does one thing help the other?

Speaker 7 (01:24:28):
Well, so number one was they sent a few years ago,
they sent the unmanned crew around the Moon. That was
Artemis one, and that was kind of famous because they
had a mannequin in the seat, which I thought was,
you know, all right, that's an interesting choice. But anyway,
so that tested out the system. The rocket made it.
Now they're touched out. The rocket plus the life support
systems and everything else. And maybe some people heard about

(01:24:51):
the toilet having some issues on the spacecraft. Currently they
fixed that, thankfully, So they that's a big load off
of their minds, that's sure. But so then the third
mission is going to be testing out what kind of
landing system they're going to use. So they're going to
test that in low Earth orbits. They're not going to
go all the way to the Moon to test these out.

(01:25:12):
And there's two or at least two different options they're
looking at, and they're gonna see which one tests better.
And then Artemis four then is going to be the
real deal where they go all the way to the
Moon and then descend to the surface. And so that
timeline is saying twenty twenty eight, but you never know
what delays and all that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:31):
Kind of stuff. But that's that's the optimistic view.

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
When Artemists two took off, I was holding my breath
several Here it goes, well, a Dean rigus, were you
holding your breath?

Speaker 11 (01:25:44):
I was nervous.

Speaker 7 (01:25:45):
I was very nervous all around, because you know this
and this mission had been delayed several months, and uh uh,
they seemed to I got the impression it was gonna
go like you get those other I don't know, you
get these feelings with their releases. The February launch didn't
seem real like it was gonna happen. The March one
got but when this April one came around, there's some

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definiteness about this that they were going to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:10):
And then the only question was were they going to
launch on the first day? And that's the day.

Speaker 7 (01:26:14):
They had five days that they could launch it, and
the the first day they just went for it. And
I don't blame them at all. I think that's you know,
the window was open, everything was a go. They're all
in there, let's do it. So I was nervous for
them because of all the tests that you know, they've
done before that you know, maybe weren't you know, they didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:26:37):
The tests on the rocket didn't go as well as
they could have.

Speaker 7 (01:26:40):
But this one all went smoothly. It seems like everything's
going good so far. And yeah, they're less than a
day from the back side of the moon.

Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
Now let me ask you a big question, Dean Rigus.
Are there aliens?

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
I don't mean the illegal type from Nicaragua, I mean
are we alone in the universe. Are there Donald Trump
seems to imply there is. We got all hell breaking
loose in Iran. I don't know what's going to happen
Monday night, Tuesday, Wednesday. Do aliens UFOs exist? You know,
that is a big question. That's a question we've been

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asking for a long time.

Speaker 7 (01:27:16):
And I do have to say I'm a little disappointed
that President Trump has not released the files like he
said he was going to. I thought he said he
was going to do a day one of his administration.
We're still waiting for the UFO files. But my thought
is that there aren't any UFO files to really release.
I think that there's been you know, the whole idea

(01:27:38):
of UFOs in the sky. I've not seen one real
credible report, one really credible video of something that's unexplainable.
So for me, I don't think aliens are visiting us,
at least we don't have any evidence of it.

Speaker 4 (01:27:52):
I think that.

Speaker 7 (01:27:54):
The things that are happening, I mean, I've been to
the outskirts of Area fifty one and the Nevada Desert.
You can't cross over, you'll get arrested immediately. But I'm
pretty sure. I'm pretty sure that what's going on in
Area fifty one is they're just testing out aircraft because
I could hear the engines going at night, and they
just don't want you to go see what engines they're making,

(01:28:16):
So I don't think which makes a lot of sense,
and so they're But I know a lot of people
have seen things. I know a lot of people have
made videos of things and pictures. But I that was
one of the things that I would get reports from people,
and not one of them have I seen that's been credible.

Speaker 4 (01:28:35):
So I don't think that.

Speaker 7 (01:28:36):
They're in our neighborhood. But boy, do I believe they're
out there somewhere. The universe is just too big. I
think the aliens are out there and maybe we'll find
them someday.

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
As far as going to Mars, the goal is to
get to Mars. I've heard some say that's impossible, it'll
never happen, it's dangerous. Dean Reguz, do you think in
your lifetime or mind we're going.

Speaker 4 (01:28:58):
To go to Mars? I do believe we will.

Speaker 7 (01:29:02):
I think I think that there's the ability is there
to do it. We have the technology, we have to
know how, we have the will to do it. It's
there's a money aspect to it, and there is a
danger and risk element to it. And I think that's
the thing is is it too risky to do? And
that's the big It's it's more of a moral question

(01:29:23):
than a than an ethical question, more than the technological question,
because you know, we could send somebody to Mars right now.
It's just a matter of what they make it alive
because of radiation in route is the biggest factor. It's
not weightlessness, it's not food and water and air, it's
their radiation exposure. And that's something that we have to

(01:29:43):
figure out if we're going to be able to do
these long space missions.

Speaker 4 (01:29:48):
But then you've got to have all the systems working.

Speaker 7 (01:29:50):
So that's that's my hope with these Artemis missions is
that we're doing a dress rehearsal for Mars closer to home.

Speaker 4 (01:29:58):
I mean, going to the going to the.

Speaker 7 (01:29:59):
Moon in a ten day journey is quite a big
you know, I mean it's something we haven't done in
fifty years. But going to Mars is a seven month,
one way journey, and that's a whole different ballpark.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
So one's like the minor leagues, ones like the All
Star ur Stalar team and to go to Mars is
I've seen the movie and it's a wonderful movie. I
like the movie, but so how many it takes six
or seven months to get there, and then you hit
everything position ahead of time, and if there's a difficulty,
you're on your own. You're gonna die. And then coming
back we're talking about a two to three year process, correct.

Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
Yeah, yeah, that's the thing is.

Speaker 7 (01:30:38):
And because everything's moving, so the Earth's going around the Sun,
Mars is going around the Sun different different speeds.

Speaker 4 (01:30:44):
So by the time you get to March seven.

Speaker 7 (01:30:46):
Months, you have to wait on the planet for a
year for the Earth to come back around in position,
and then six seven months back home. So yeah, twenty
six months is a brown trip, is what we're looking
at right now, versus ten days for the moon. So
I always like to ask people, you know, I think,
think to yourself, would you go on a free ten
day trip to the moon, a free two year journey

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to Mars?

Speaker 4 (01:31:11):
The whole different thing.

Speaker 3 (01:31:12):
Well, I saw the movie Matt Damon the Martian. He
made it back without too much difficulty one last time.
As I sit here in a studio in Cincinnati, Ohio,
how fast? How fast is my body now moving without
me knowing? How fast am I moving?

Speaker 4 (01:31:29):
Yeah, this is such an incredible thing. You know, we're
all moving through space.

Speaker 7 (01:31:33):
You know, the Earth is this moving moving home for us,
and we are on the surface of this giant ball
that's spending at least in Cincinnati, we're spending about eight
hundred miles an hour to make a twenty four hour spin,
you know, to go around one time to make day
and night right, not moving about eight hundred miles an hour.
I don't feel it, so not too shabby, not too shabby,

(01:31:53):
because you know, the building's moving, the studios moving, the
air is moving. It looks like you're in a car
with the window up. That's what it feels like, as
you're going on a very smooth highway. And then the
Earth itself now is moving around the Sun at around
sixty six thousand miles an hour to make that big
journey around the Sun once every year. And then our
solar system's moving around the Milky Way at hundreds of

(01:32:16):
thousands of miles an hour. And then our Milky way's
moving through space too. Oh, this is getting deep, Bill,
I don't know. We're flying all over the place. So
I'm going eight hundred miles an hour. The Art's moving,
and the Earth itself is going sixty six thousand miles
an hour around the Sun yep. And then the whole
Solar system and the universe is going hundreds of thousands

(01:32:37):
of miles an hour.

Speaker 4 (01:32:39):
Is that correct? Yep?

Speaker 7 (01:32:40):
Yeah, and so and then that's all moving and the
universe expanding. And this is why it's so so hard
to send people the Moon, because the Earth is spinning
and we're moving and the Moon's moving. And one of
the neat things about this mission to the Moon is
that they're kind of in this straight line out from
the Earth that they they they kind of left and

(01:33:02):
the Moon is moving around us, and so they're aimed
at this point that the Moon's going to run into them. Basically,
that's what they're waiting for the Moon to run into them.
That's what's kind of happening here.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
And one on the dark side of the Moon. When
the four astronauts get there, there'll be out of touch
for several hours. I would anticipate is that the farthest
human beings have ever traveled. Yeah, so they're going to
go past the Moon.

Speaker 7 (01:33:24):
Actually, they're going to go out much farther than any
of the other Apollo.

Speaker 4 (01:33:27):
Missions did because they're going to do this kind of it's.

Speaker 7 (01:33:31):
Called a free return mission where they kind of go
around the Moon and let the Moon's gravity sling shot
them around, so it saves a lot on fuel.

Speaker 4 (01:33:38):
They don't have to kick on the engines very much.

Speaker 7 (01:33:41):
The Moon's gravity will sling them back around, but they
have to go pretty far out, so they will be
the farthest humans.

Speaker 4 (01:33:47):
Ever and go to that far side of the Moon.

Speaker 7 (01:33:50):
Yeah, the NASA said that they think the contact will
be lost for about thirty to fifty minutes for on
that back side of the Moon. But right now they're
getting and yeah, they're going to be coming around the
side and they're going to get views of that far
side of the Moon that no human has seen in
since nineteen seventy two.

Speaker 4 (01:34:08):
So it's going to be real exciting tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:34:10):
I wish him well, it'll be great and splash down
at the end of the week. Dean Rigas, once again,
this is fabulous Star Trek, Star Wars stuff is happening,
and Dean Regas, Astronomer to the Stars, thanks for coming
on the Bill Cunningham show, and Dean, you're a great American.

Speaker 4 (01:34:24):
Thank you very much. I always happy to be with
you guys.

Speaker 7 (01:34:27):
Godspeed to our astronauts, and keep looking up.

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
Keep your feet on the ground, but reach for the stars.
Dean Regus, thank you very much. Let's continue with the more.
Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday By Billy Cunningham, the

(01:34:51):
Great American. I don't know about you. I can't grasp
the idea of me and you right now going eight
hundred miles an hour. I can't grasp that. I can't
grasp the idea somehow we're traveling. That is the Earth
around the Sun. It's going about eight thousand miles an hour.
I can't grasp that. And the Milky Way in our
universe is the Milky Way A constellation is heading toward

(01:35:12):
out in the universe at one hundreds of thousand miles
an hour. I can't understand that. I think most of
us told. Do you understand that? I don't understand. It's
good to have on Dean Reguez to talk about. Let's
continue with more coming up next to Jeff crue Air
from New Orleans about the dangers of the Republican Party
politically and what about Jeffrey Epstein. Not heard from him
quite a while. So well, Jeff Krueir is one of

(01:35:33):
my favorite. We'll be calling in for New Orleans. We
hope Goill cunning Him the Great American with you and
all great Americans every sumthing, Bill.

Speaker 4 (01:35:51):
Cunningham, the Great American. Of course.

Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
Jeff krue Air, headquartered in New Orleans, has a great
column out on town hall dot com. If Republicans are divided,
Democrats will conquer, and he also has several columns, one
about the Jeffrey Epstein's race is ugily had. Again for
some reason, Warren Buffett the Oracle and Nebraska kind of
wants to of Omaha wants to talk about the Epstein case,

(01:36:15):
which is always a bad look. But nonetheless, Jeff Career,
welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. Your first sentence
is this since nineteen fifty, by the way, that during
the Truman years, the average midterm election loss for the
incumbent president's political party has been twenty five seats on average.
But you say it may be worse for Republicans this time.

(01:36:35):
Explain your thinking on that. You say they could lose
sixty to seventy seats and likely to Senate. Please explain
that to the American people.

Speaker 12 (01:36:42):
Well, they are two things, Bill, and thanks for having me.
One is, Republicans are divided right now, Maggot is divided.
Republicans need to unify. And if the Republicans are not unified,
you're not going to have the dates turning out in
big numbers. They haven't been turning out in special elections.
Democrats have won all all of them. So that's one
factor that's a problem. And the other factor of courses.

(01:37:05):
We talk about history, it's just a natural cycle of politics.
You have one party in power getting comfortable, getting fat
and happy. The other party is eager as anxious, is motivated.
They get their people out there so they win the
midterm election. And that's happened throughout history. And people vote

(01:37:25):
their pocketbook bill, they vote the economy. The economy is
a number one issue. It always is in elections. And
we've got gas prices that have surged in the past
a few weeks. People are feeling strained economically. That's not
a good thing when they go to the polls if
you're a Republican.

Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
In fact, even the president's home district to mar A
lago A week or so ago, had a big election
and the Democrat beat the Republican in a Florida state
House race by two or three percentage points. And that
particular district voted for Trump by plus eighteen and you
lose by two that's a twenty percent turnaround. And the

(01:38:03):
brand of Donald Trump has been always will be the
economy and no foreign wars. Because the foreign wars, whether
it's Vietnam or whether Iraq Orghanistan, has caused a frigging
fortune and including seven thousand dead soldiers and about fifty
thousand wounded to the cost of trillions of dollars. Get
the Taliban out of Afghanistan. They're now in charge. Get

(01:38:24):
the Islamic extremists out of Iraq. Now they're back in charge.
And now Heran's another issue completely. So when you have
about a third of MEGA says, wait a minute, the
economy is Trump's brand?

Speaker 4 (01:38:34):
How we looking? And secondly, no foreign wars?

Speaker 3 (01:38:37):
How we looking? The answer is not good. And you
have many like Tucker Carlson, etc. Has gone after Trump
and the Jews with hooks and claws. A large chunk
of the thinking of the MEGA movement.

Speaker 4 (01:38:49):
Has been what are you doing? Why are you doing this?
And also Jeff Crer, I would say this.

Speaker 3 (01:38:54):
In twenty twenty four, Donald Trump was out the zenith
of his political power. He was out of office, but
he was a victim of repeated wrongful state and federal prosecutions.
He was running against first Joe Biden, for God's sakes,
then ran against Kamala Harris, who had to be the
worst candidate to run for the presidency ever. She was terrible,

(01:39:14):
and Joe Biden was supporting her. He was in a wheelchair.
God bless him. He was in bad shape. The best
Trump could do in that environment was get forty nine
point eight percent of the vote.

Speaker 4 (01:39:25):
So right, the majority of the American people in that
environment didn't want Trump.

Speaker 3 (01:39:29):
And I voted for him three times. Hell, I'd vote
for him four times. But I'm not normal. I'm not
the normal American.

Speaker 4 (01:39:37):
Believe. I don't care much what he says. I care
what he does.

Speaker 12 (01:39:40):
Your comment, No, I mean, he summed it up very
well a lot of times what he's saying. As far
as negotiations, that's sort of the art of the deal.
So we don't really know what's going on. As far
as Iran, it could be part of a bluff. That
could be just what he's telling the world, But behind
the scenes, other things are happening.

Speaker 5 (01:39:58):
Actions speak louder than everything.

Speaker 12 (01:40:00):
And you're right, he did campaign on two things, you know,
getting the economy straight, three things, securing.

Speaker 5 (01:40:07):
The border and of course no foreign wars.

Speaker 12 (01:40:10):
And up until Iran, everything that he's done has been
lightning quick. You know, he got Solamani, got our bag, Daddy,
the mother of all bombs, very took out isis was
you know, extracted Maduro in a millisecond and all of
that happened quickly.

Speaker 5 (01:40:28):
Bombing this is different.

Speaker 12 (01:40:29):
You know, this has been now, you know, five weeks,
and he continues on. And I think there's an understandable concern.
You mentioned the rock in Afghanistan. We had about I
think about nine ten thousand dead in those two wars
Vietnam fifty eight thousand. You know, those were all lost
decades where Americans spent trillions of dollars and we didn't

(01:40:50):
accomplish our goals. And there's justifiably concern about this turning
into a never ending war. So the best thing for
the president, the best thing for the country, the best
thing for the Republican Party is if this end quickly.

Speaker 5 (01:41:06):
You know, we've already degraded them.

Speaker 12 (01:41:07):
We've already eliminated their nuclear threat, We've elimited their air force,
we've limitated their navy. They're certainly degraded tremendously. And I
don't want to see ground troops. I'm the same as
Nancy Mays, as Eli Crane, as so many others. Only
seven percent of Americans want ground troops there in Iran.
So that would be something that would just enter a

(01:41:30):
whole new phase. It would take longer, it would be unpopular,
it would again take the focus off the economy.

Speaker 5 (01:41:35):
The of course, you know, price of oil is continuing
to go higher.

Speaker 12 (01:41:40):
Gasoline prices are way up, and that's going to affect politically,
and that could turn into a toxic political environment that
we're going to be facing.

Speaker 5 (01:41:48):
So the sooner this wraps up.

Speaker 12 (01:41:50):
The better for the political prospects and for the economy,
and I think for the country, no question.

Speaker 3 (01:41:56):
And look at it this way, that if this thing
is in the summertime, in the two hundred and fiftieth
anniversary of the country July the fourth, and if we
have still if we have soldiers fighting and dying on
the battlefields, of Iran and we have a resurgent guerrilla
tactics being used by the religious fanatics, and they don't
want to live, they want to die. In fact, during

(01:42:18):
the Iran Iraqi War, they would bundle children, put the
keys to heaven around their neck, five, six, seven, nine,
ten year old kids, put the scarves on their forehead,
walk into minefields to blow themselves up, and the mothers
and fathers in Iran gave permission. And the course, the
Atola who was raised and taught in France before he

(01:42:41):
returned back in nineteen seventy nine, the religious leaders in
Iran during the Iraqi War, which took ten years to conclude,
would use children as walking detectors of land mines, and
the parents would watch their children be blown up by
a land mine and the key's to have one was
around their neck, and the religious leaders.

Speaker 4 (01:43:03):
Of Iran thought that was okay. That is the mentality
we're dealing.

Speaker 12 (01:43:07):
With, and it goes on today. I mean they're using
twelve year olds as soldiers. I mean the same sort
of mentality. They believe that dying for the cause gets
them to heaven. You're right, So, I mean we're talking
about a mentality that ninety nine point nine percent of
Americans can't even comprehend. So yeah, it would be I think,
very bloody. I don't think it would be something that

(01:43:29):
would be quick. No, it is going to be something
that I think the American people are I mean, we've
never had a quote unquote war where the popularity has
been as low as it is now going into it.
Normally what happens is going to a war, it's very popular,
and then over time the popularity declines as people see
that it's going on and on.

Speaker 5 (01:43:50):
This was never popular from day one.

Speaker 12 (01:43:53):
So I don't be the prospects turning around as far
as the popularity of the American people.

Speaker 3 (01:44:00):
You end up your column in town Hall, Jeff Career
by saying Republicans who re unite if they understand the
radical Democratic agenda and the urgent need to prevent them
from taking power again. The Democratic agenda when you look
at what they're doing in the cities, what they're doing
on border issues, what they're doing with the government shutdown,
what they're doing with their public school systems. I mean,
you're in New Orleans, I'm in Cincinnati. In Cincinnati, about

(01:44:23):
forty six percent of children are chronically absent from school.
By the way, in Chicago, that number seventy six percent
of Chicago public school kids are chronically absent from school
seventy six percent, And I assume in New Orleans the
numbers are similar, in which the public school system run
by the Democrats are completely dysfunctional, defund the police, completely dysfunctional,

(01:44:45):
border issues, completely dysfunctional, so called transgender issues, sexual mutilation
of children's bodies, totally dysfunctional. And we have large cities
like yours. Fortunately you're in a red state. I'm in Cincinnati,
a blue city in a red state, which serves as
a governor to the predilections of the city leaders. But
if you're in Illinois, New York, California, and you're a

(01:45:08):
blue city in the blue state, Katie bar the door,
the radical Democratic agenda will be imposed. And that's what's
at stake this November, because the last two years of
Trump's term is going to be a total disaster.

Speaker 4 (01:45:20):
A total disaster.

Speaker 5 (01:45:21):
Here's what it's going to be.

Speaker 12 (01:45:23):
Impeachments, investigations, hearings, obstruction, chaos. It'll be Yeah, you're exactly right,
it will be a total disaster. And we have got
to do everything we can to make sure that that
doesn't happen. So the best way to unify is to
focus on this opposition in the crazed agenda that they have,

(01:45:44):
and they say, hey, we cannot allow that to happen.
We can't allow them to take power because it will
destroy the country. I'm just worried that that's the path
we're on. Let me give you another example. Marjorie Taylor
Green's district in Georgia. They're talking about a Democrat at
winning that seat that is a hard red conservative district.

(01:46:06):
She resigned. Now there's a special election, So I mean
Republicans are hanging on by a threat. As it is now,
it's two seventeen to two fourteen in the Congress, with
some special elections and one guy who's now an independent.
So it's very very very worrisome, Bill, very worse.

Speaker 3 (01:46:24):
Lastly, you have a great column about the Epstein mystery
takes a new turn the Warren Buffett interview. It wasn't
a good look for him. What strange turn did the
Epstein mystery take?

Speaker 12 (01:46:35):
Well, I mean, I think as more information comes out,
I think we have to come to the realization in
my view, that he was murdered Okay, I think it
is accumulation of the evidence. We've seen more video that's
come out, more information about these the prison guards cash
that they were depositing, the fancy cars that they were driving.

(01:46:59):
You know, they they supposedly weren't doing their job, but
somehow money showed up in their account. And you know,
a blob, an orange blob on the side of the
video going up to his wing in the prison. All
these questions that are accumulating now, and then, of course
plenty of people had motivation to see him be killed.

(01:47:19):
And then I always go back to Michael Boden, the
forensic pathologists, he's the experts on twenty thousand autopsies, said
the injuries are aligned with a homicide, not a suicide.
So I believe as more evidence comes out, we've got
to come to the realization that that could very well
have been a murder.

Speaker 3 (01:47:37):
So someone could have gone into his prison cell, choked
him with a choked him to death using the death
grip that I've seen, and then position the body to
make it look as if he hung himself.

Speaker 4 (01:47:48):
Hey hung himself from that I'm a bed. Is that
the most likely scenario? You believe?

Speaker 11 (01:47:54):
Right?

Speaker 12 (01:47:54):
That's what they say, although the news that was used
couldn't be located. And then of course they did have
cameras and other parts of the prison, but the ones
right outside of his cell were conveniently not working. So yeah,
I mean, from the guards, to the video, to the injuries.
The brother doesn't think he committed suicide, Glee Maxwell doesn't

(01:48:15):
think he committed suicide. Every time we turn around, we're
getting new information about this Epstein case.

Speaker 5 (01:48:21):
It is the case that will not go away.

Speaker 3 (01:48:23):
Built lastly, the prison guards assigned to Epstein Tova Tova
Noel and Michael Thomas Tova Noel and I've seen her.

Speaker 4 (01:48:33):
She looks like a winner.

Speaker 3 (01:48:35):
And there were cash deposits that helped Noel purchase a
sixty two thousand dollars twenty nineteen land Rover Range, an
expensive vehicle. Her salary was fifty two thousand dollars, means
she took on thirty six thousand, and there were huge
cash deposits into her account that allow her to buy
a brand new Range Rover that's a Tiger Woods car.

Speaker 4 (01:48:57):
Where'd that money come from?

Speaker 12 (01:49:00):
Well, that's what inquiring minds want to know. I mean,
how in the world could she afford that on the
salary she was making.

Speaker 5 (01:49:06):
I mean, who was paying her?

Speaker 12 (01:49:08):
Who were these cash deposits from. Why hadn't we delved
into this before? I mean, why are we just finding
out this information now? Why woman been questioned about this before? So,
I mean it's just not only confidence, but I think
there's some people that haven't really wanted to get to
the bottom of this for quite a while. So yeah,

(01:49:30):
we need to keep the pressure on. We've got to
get to the truth. And kudos to James Comer. At
least he's trying to having these hearings. At least he's
trying to get some information out.

Speaker 3 (01:49:40):
You conclude by saying the Miami Herald quote as a
result of his cell was never considered a possible crime
scene that would, under circumstances, be examined by experienced criminal
and forensic experts. You would take fingerprints, blood samples, and
other evidens. One thing they got lost was that piece
of fabric that Epstein allegedly used to hang himself was
never identified. And so instead instead of the authorities in

(01:50:01):
New York City saying, no, wait a minute, did he
kill himself or not, let's treat this as a crime scene.

Speaker 4 (01:50:06):
They did none of that.

Speaker 3 (01:50:08):
In fact, they got rid of some of the evidence,
including the piece of fabric he hung himself with.

Speaker 12 (01:50:14):
Yeah, that's exactly right. So it's never truly investigated. I mean,
it was never truly investigated, and I mean missing evidence.
We could go on and on about all the problems
with this case, but I remember Bill Barr rushing forward
and saying immediately right after it occurred, oh yes, it
was a suicide.

Speaker 5 (01:50:35):
Oh no, I think we got questions.

Speaker 12 (01:50:37):
So, you know, just continue, we need to continue to
keep the pressure on that we need the truth out
about this. And of course all the people that his
network harmed, all the people that were involved, we haven't
had any prosecutions of these people. At least in Europe,
they're doing something, were some of the people that were
Epstein associates.

Speaker 5 (01:50:57):
But here the only one who's been in prison is
Glean Maxwell.

Speaker 3 (01:51:01):
Correction officer tells the FBI the quote, I've never seen
so many bags of shredded documents putting the dumpster at
the rear gate of the prison. The bags of documents
were shredded and removed before federal agents reviewed the documents.
They were simply discarded thrown away and putting the garbage quickly,
and the whole thing smells well. Jeff Creuer, thanks for
coming on. But the clarion call is out there because

(01:51:24):
this country could slip into real socialism.

Speaker 10 (01:51:26):
Mom.

Speaker 3 (01:51:26):
Donnie's election could be a predictor of the future. And
if that's the future of our country, you and I
need to go to Costa Rica, maybe breed Comodo dragons.

Speaker 4 (01:51:33):
We need to get the hail out. We'll see what happens.

Speaker 5 (01:51:37):
We can't go to Europe, Bill, because they're already ruined
that place.

Speaker 11 (01:51:40):
You're right, no.

Speaker 3 (01:51:40):
Question, Jeff crueir New Orleans. You're a great American. Thanks
for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Jeff.
You Bill cunning Him the Great American. Live with you
every Sunday night. Bhi, Billy cunning Him, the great American.
Thanks for listening tonight. The next two to three days
should be extremely interesting. The President said, in the rather
profane use of the F bomb this morning that in

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the next forty eight hours, which is either a Monday
night or Tuesday, that the Iranians must strike a deal,
and if not, all hell's going to break loose. As
you may know of said this before. There's a thousand
targets in Iran untouched, largely their bridges and their water
plants and communications centers and oil drilling platforms, oil drilling,

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et cetera, which is the heart and soul of the
Iranian economy. The president is saying that if you don't
strike a deal, this thing's got in at some point.
Hell it's been five weeks at this point, that those
thousand targets will be taken care of, that all travel
within Iran will stop. You can imagine if you live
in an area measure there's no bridges over the river
or any bay. Imagine, there's no water that can be

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no postable water that can be drunk, drunk, and measure
there's no communication whatsoever. There's no electricity, there's no power.
And that is something I think the Iranian leadership itself
now would find acceptable, because somehow there's suiside, homicidal and genocidal,
and so the Irunian people would be left in a

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terrible circumstance brought about by the behavior of the running government.

Speaker 4 (01:53:09):
And I also would point out this morning, during.

Speaker 3 (01:53:12):
Many of the Sunday morning interviews, the Democratic senators were
lying about this being some ilegal war, it is not
clearly it's within the dictates of the War Powers Act.
And secondly that they looked almost sad that the American pilot,
the lieutenant colonel, was located and his position was known
for the last day and a half as Heseth and
Trump and others followed him to make sure no one

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got close to him.

Speaker 4 (01:53:34):
It was a brilliant military maneuver.

Speaker 3 (01:53:36):
By watching some of the Sunday morning talk shows that
looked as if the Democrats were sad, there was a
great success. So by the time you night but get
back together next Sunday night, something should be more clear.
This war is going to go one direction of the other.
And I want America to win. I want America always
to win. And I don't like it when any American
wants America to lose, and I fear the implication is

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that many on the radical left went America to lose
because they went to get a dollad Trump by any
means necessary. Bill Cunningham, the Great American, Thanks for listening.
Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night.

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