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October 8, 2025 32 mins
United States Attorney General Pam Bondi was challenged by Democrats during a Senate hearing yesterday. Dems pressed her on President Trump's involvement with the Jeffrey Epstein files. Mark takes your calls! Mark interviews Boston radio host Howie Carr. Former special counsel for the US, Jack Smith, may be prosecuted for private calls with nearly a dozen Republican senators during the January 6th probe. Other Democrats could also be targeted.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Now sevenor presents.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
No Mark Simon Shaw. Hey, a little rainy out there.
It's Wednesday. The rain will go away. It'll be dry
tonight Yankee Game four tonight, seven o'clock tonight, Yankee Stadium.
We'll get to the mayoral race. We'll get to uh
We'll get to Hunter Biden. We'll get to Pam Bondi

(00:24):
or some people call her Pam Blondie. We'll get to
James Comy. He's being arraigned as we speak. He is
apparently pleading not guilty. No surprise there. We'll get to
the shutdown. We'll get to Chicago. We'll get to Mamdani
and New Jersey to your final May of gubernatorial debate
will be tonight in New Jersey. Chitterrelly against Mikey Cheryl.

(00:48):
That's the final debate tonight. It's a pretty close race.
Chitterrelly not the best candidate in the world. He'd probably
be a much better governor, but not the best candidate,
and not great with his media buying good in debates,
not great, but hopefully he wins by just a narrow margin. Now,

(01:10):
Curtis has been very good in his media buying. Everybody's
saying where's the commercials, Well, they're all over the place
now from Curtis Sliwa some hard hitting commercials against Cuomo.
In fact, if you were watching the Yankee game last night,
there were Curtis commercials in the middle of the Yankee game.
That's a pretty expensive buy there, right in the middle

(01:31):
of the Yankee playoff game. He's got to go after
Mom Danny a little more. But I guess he's saving
that for the debate. Let me explain the shutdown real quickly,
the most boring subject in the world. Here's how this
government shutdown. Here's what really is happening. The government is
shut down. The Republicans have put on the table from

(01:51):
the beginning an extension, a seven week extension. You sign
this extension. It keeps the government open for another seven weeks,
giving you time to negotiate. There's things they're fighting about,
healthcare things, not what the Democrats are claiming. They're just
lying about that, but there are little things that they're
arguing over healthcare wise. But it's a pretty simple thing.

(02:12):
They call it a clean resolution, a cr Nobody knows
what they're talking about. It's real simple. It's a seven
week extension which will give you seven weeks to negotiate
this stuff. Democrats, I don't know why they won't sign it.
They will not sign that seven week extension. Now, they'll
make all kinds of crazy statements. You have the Hakeem Jeffries,
who we still don't know if he's humans. He just

(02:33):
a robot. He looks like an AI robot the way
he talks.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
But this fight is about the healthcare of the American people.
It's Republicans in terms of the leadership that is missing
in action, that is currently on vacation, that has canceled votes,
and that refuses to deal with the healthcare crisis that
Republicans have created.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, if you have your TV on right now, I'm
looking at Fox News, the Republicans don't seem to be
on vacation. They're talking in the halls of Congress. In
fact that Johnson is holding a press conference down. There's
nothing to you. Just signed the seven week extension. It's
that simple. You sign the extension, then you got seven
weeks to negotiate. They won't sign it. Now they've made

(03:18):
up this whole fake narrative that the Republicans are trying
to take healthcare away from sixty million Americans so they
can give the money to their billionaire of friends to
give tax cuts to the billion Now, none of this
is true. Billionaires aren't getting these tax cuts. It's in fact,
in every major study, even the irs study done by
the Biden administration, the bulk of the taxes go to

(03:40):
the billionaires. The bulk of the cuts went to lower income,
middle income. So none of this is true. Chuck Schumer
even I don't have it, but it's a cringe worthy
video where he curses and uses the F word. It's
Chuck Schumer trying to be like a cool TikTok influencer,
cursing in this video, and they just repeat. They all

(04:02):
have the same script and they repeat the same thing.
He wants to cut healthcare for sixty million Americans to
pay for tech cut for billionaires. And none of this
is true. This is complete malarchy. As Joe Biden would say,
it's not true. The messaging is pretty ineffective. And if again,
Schumer just cringe worthy using the F word in that video.

(04:23):
So that's what the shutdown's all about. I don't know
what the Democrats are going to do. With Democrats, it's
never about. They act like it's the principle. It's more
about just reading polls, looking polling numbers, and if they
start losing, maybe they'll sign the seven week extension. Then
you got time to negotiate. Best thing that happened yesterday
the Pam Bondie hearings, or as some people call her,

(04:45):
Pam Blondie. Now, Bondy is great in hearings. Now, these
hearings are from the Oversight Committee that is there to
do oversight, to examine the situation. That's not at all
what they do. What they do, and they're so ridiculous
about it. This is a TV show put on by

(05:05):
these crazy Democrats on the committee. They're there to create
extreme theatrics. They're going to accuse her of everything. They're
gonna ask her horrible questions and question her her credibility,
question her integrity. They're gonna grill her and make her
look horrible. This is what the all purpose of these hearings.
It's not oversight, it's just theatrics. And the problem is

(05:29):
the people doing the theatrics. See know, if you bought
in a bunch of theatric experts, they do it great.
This is a bunch of old craggy old dinosaur old senators.
And they're just awful at this. They stink at these theatrics.
And the other problem is these senators are the sleaziest,
dirtiest bunch of people, scandal ridden, dirty, sleazy people. Take

(05:53):
Richard Blumenthal, here's the dirtiest, slimiest snake. He's the Chuck
Schumer of Connecticut. He's just the horrible, reprehensible guy who's
been caught lying about the worst things you could lie about.
He lied about his military record. He lied about fighting
in Vietnam, serving in Vietnam. He never served in Vietnam.
It was all a lie, stolen valor. He made it up.

(06:17):
He's the biggest liar ever. Remember that. My favorite one
was remember the whole thing about being captain of the
swimming team at Harvard. He was never even on the
swimming team. But my favorite was about two years ago.
He's seen speaking at in a ballroom in a hotel.
He's speaking in Connecticut at the Communist party dinner. The

(06:38):
video emerges of him speaking at the Communist party dinner.
He then puts out a statement the next day he
had no idea it was a Communist party dinner. He
thought it was a fundraiser or an event. He didn't
had no idea. Well, then the full video emerges of
the woman introducing him, where she says, welcome to the

(06:59):
Communist Party dinner. We're here to raise money for the
Communist Party. The Communist Party, this the common and then
she introduces him. Well, I'm sitting right there. So he's
the biggest liar on earth. The worst lie was his
Vietnam service. So he decides he's going to go after
Pam Bondy and watch her just give it right back
to him.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Senator Blumenthal, I.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
Cannot believe that you would accuse me of impropriety when
you lied about your military service.

Speaker 6 (07:28):
I am you.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
You lie alt to a US SY you lie, dare you?

Speaker 5 (07:34):
I'm a career prosecutor. Don't you ever challenge my integrity.
I have abided by every ethics standard.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
It's like, it's great, he's stuck. This is what I mean.
Who are these guys to go after anybody? These are
the dirtiest people in America. Slimy talk about a snake,
and I think about Bloomenthal. He actually actually does literally
look like a snake. His face, he looks like a snake.
But she just went after him.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
Senator Blumenthal, I find it so interesting that you didn't
bring any of this up during President Biden's administration, when
he was doing everything to protect Hunter Biden, his son.
And I think you just saw what Director Radcliffe just
released information. If I can finish answering the question, I'm
gonna yell over you, I'm not going to get in
the gutter with you, but information information that the Biden

(08:22):
administration told them not to investigate Hunter Biden's involvement with Ukraine.

Speaker 6 (08:28):
And I'm not going to be about integrity, about.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
Being in the military just to be elected as senator.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, I got nowhere with her, and that's some good.
Some could say it's too much on her part. But
you're talking about the creepiest, slimiest people, this says Senator Whitehouse.
Now he's going after Epstein. Where's the and he makes
these claims that Epstein was showing photos of Trump with
young girls. None of this is true, but he's saying
this right in Congress.

Speaker 7 (08:55):
There's been public reporting that Jeffrey Epstein showed people photos
of Resident Trump with half naked young women. Do you
know if the FBI found those photographs in their search
of Jeffrey Epstein's safe or premises or otherwise.

Speaker 6 (09:14):
Have you seen any such thing?

Speaker 5 (09:17):
You know, Senator white House, you sit here and make
salacious remarks once again trying to slander President Trump left
and right.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah. She then goes on to point out he takes
donations from the person closest to Jeffrey Epstein, Reid Hoffman,
who's a close associate there of Epstein. He's taking massive
donations from him. Who's this one, Amy Klobach?

Speaker 8 (09:39):
Is it true that the career prosecutors in the Eastern
District of Virginia found that there was insufficient evidence to
bring criminal charges against former director Comy?

Speaker 5 (09:48):
I am not going to discuss pending cases because Comy
was indicted in the Eastern District of Virginia by I
may point out, one of the most sveral grand juries
in the country.

Speaker 9 (10:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
So again, who are these people that question her?

Speaker 8 (10:05):
How about the truth social post on September twentieth, twenty
twenty five, in which the President said, we can't delay
any longer pam using your name, not bringing criminal charges
or killing our reputation his words and credibility, and then
goes on to tell you to prosecute a member of

(10:25):
this committee, to prosecute the Attorney General of New York
and to prosecute James Comey. Do you consider that a
directive to the Justice.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
Department, Senator Clovishar.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
President Trump is the most transparent president in American history,
and I don't.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Think he said anything that he hasn't said for years.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, well, he actually did say that. But Biden did
exactly the same thing. Biden went on Meet the Press
and said it. That's the difference. Trump did it on
a truth social did it on Twitter. Now Biden doesn't
even know about the Internet. So Biden's the very old
fashioned say he did it. He did exactly the same thing,
said exactly the same thing. He just said it on
Meet the Press on a Sunday morning. Was there anybody,

(11:07):
Oh yeah, Dick Durbin, here's another old fossil, slimy old Senator.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
You voted to.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
Shut down the government and you're sitting here. Our law
enforcement officers aren't being paid. They're out there working to
protect you. I wish you love Chicago as much as
you hate President Trump, and currently the National Guard are
on the way to Chicago. If you're not going to
protect your citizens, President Trump will.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Now speaking of Chicago. The fat slab governor that Ralph Cramdon,
governor of Pritzker has taken the Trump administration to court
to block the National Guard from coming in. Could you
imagine this? You got crime out of control in a
city Chicago. You got thirty five forty people shot every weekend,
every weekend, it's a killing field. Somebody wants to help

(11:52):
send in some troops. You sue to stop this? Absolutely ridiculous,
So they're suing Trump. Trump is said on truth Social
Pritzker in that lunatic Chicago mayor should be in jail.
So it's one of those what they call eighty twenty issues.
This is actually a ninety seven to three issue. Ninety

(12:13):
seven percent of people love getting rid of crime, They
love troops, they love police, they love but this is
Democrats going nuts. Now Pritzker is calling for ICE agents
to be arrested and prosecuted. It's just a word to
all your angry, crazy Trump hating democrats, you liberals who
are just exploding with Trump hatred, Just friendly advice. You

(12:39):
gotta pace yourself. You got three and a half more
years of this, you're going to explode. Pace yourselves. This
is just he just got here. He's only been president
like twenty five minutes. He just took off six months ago.
Pace yourself, slow down, you got a long long way
to go. Hey. By the way, of these crazy left wingers,

(13:02):
they have no access to the news. They watch MSNBC, CNN,
they read the New York Times, so they don't know
half of what's going on. They're just not told anything,
you know. The big story on Monday was that weirdo
prosecutor Jack Smith had turned out he was doing spying
and surveillance on many members of Congress, major senators, spying

(13:23):
on them, getting their phone records, getting their GPS, finding
out where they went, what they did. Jack Smith spying
on dozens of major senators. It's a big story. It
was all over the news unless you're a New York
Times reader. They never reported it. They still haven't reported it.
They've never reported this story. They do that a lot.
They just don't report stories. They just leave it out.

(13:45):
So the left wing cooks have no idea. By the way,
Lindsey Graham was one of those senators. He has vowed,
as he's put it, to soothe the crap out of
Jack Smith. So I don't know if it's illegal. What
Jack Smith did certainly unethical and moral discussing is it illegal,
I don't know. You a legal expert will have to
determine that it's being looked at. But it's certainly he

(14:08):
can be sued over it, and I think a lot
of these senators will sume. So Jack Smith could be
in court for a long long time and getting massive,
massive legal bills. So a Yankees tonight seven o'clock, come on,
be honest, you thought it was over, You thought they
were gonna lose. Last night it looked like they were
gonna lose because it was like six to one. They

(14:28):
were getting clobbered. We love Aaron Judge, but he's not
exactly as George would say, mister October, he hasn't been
that great in the playoffs, but last night last night
was his biggest moment ever in the playoffs. The Yankees
are way behind. Judge comes up to back a strike pitch.

Speaker 9 (14:47):
It's a time downline with experiences, moments, time.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Quite a moment, good announcing, good screaming. How did they end?
When you auditioned to be one of these play by
play that they is that the audition let me. Hear
you scream, scream a little. You gotta really scream. But
it's you're very in the middle of all the excitement. Hey,
we'll take some calls in a minute. Eight hundred three
two one zero seven ten is number. We'll get to
the mayoral race coming up. But give me a call.

(15:23):
Eight hundred three to two one zero seven ten. Miss
New York mar Simone, he's on sevent ten. Let's take
some calls. Let's go to Dave in Chicago. Dave, how
you doing.

Speaker 10 (15:38):
Good morning, Mark. I'm doing very well, Thank you.

Speaker 11 (15:41):
Mark.

Speaker 10 (15:41):
As we know, when the mayoral race, a lot of
people simply don't vote. They stay home.

Speaker 9 (15:46):
They blame bad weather. Now, in the past, MTV did
a promotion called Rock the Vote, and.

Speaker 10 (15:53):
I wanted to ask you two questions please. First of all,
was it successful?

Speaker 12 (15:58):
And second the ball MTV.

Speaker 6 (16:01):
Is not the entity that it used to be.

Speaker 10 (16:03):
Is there another platform to take its place?

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yes, it's called Twitter, TikTok, it's called Instagram, it's called
social media. That's the new MTV. You know the problem
that rock Younger voters don't vote in big numbers, except
that's changing with this particular group. It's the people under
thirty that are going crazy supporting Mam Donnie. And that's
where he's getting heavy turnout. In this younger twenties thirties group.

(16:29):
They are total left wing. They love socialism. You can
blame these universities who about thirty years ago is turned
into indoctrination camps. But this could be the key to
the election. The Blasio got elected because we only had
like eighteen percent turnout. If we get back to the
old days of eighty percent turnout, that could defeat Mam Donnie.

(16:50):
It's all about turnout, need lots of turnout. Problem is,
you don't really have a Republican party in New York.
You got a strong Democratic Party with an army of
like sixty five thousand people that goes out on an
election day, brings the people to the polls, knocks on doors.
This is called the ground game. Republican doesn't exist. They
don't have it. Let's go to Dolores and Parsipony. Dolores,

(17:11):
how you doing.

Speaker 9 (17:13):
Hi.

Speaker 13 (17:14):
This is the first time I'm calling for seven to
seventy ten, but I'm listening to people talk about the
National Guard being sent here, there and everywhere. Now, all
these cities supposedly have money poured into them to prevent crime.
So if you follow the logic, if you prevent the crime,

(17:35):
all these programs are canceled. I would love to know
how much money is spent for preventing crime. And there
you have the chicken.

Speaker 12 (17:43):
Or the eggs.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Well, it's more a case you got crazy, crazy left
wing mayors like this guy in Chicago, and the police
aren't allowed to do anything. They're totally restricted, handcuffed the police.
And then you got crazy left wingers like Andrew Cuomo
who put in that no bail, no jail, So even
if you were to rest them, they're just back out
in the street. And take New York for instance, there's

(18:04):
only about twenty five hundred criminals, and police officials will
tell you they know who they are. If you told
them to, they could go round up these twenty five
hundred in a couple of weeks and that'd be the
end of the crime. It's basically what Giuliani did, but
because of these Cuomo no bail, no jail, and left
wing kind of laws, you're not allowed to do it anymore.
Let's go to Mike in Florida.

Speaker 9 (18:24):
Mike, how you doing, Good morning, Mark, Yes, Mike, I
don't understand. You know, the Republicans have majorities in both
parts of the Congress, and yet every other day there
seems to be a Republican hauled in front of the Democrat.

Speaker 6 (18:40):
Part of the of the Senate or the.

Speaker 10 (18:42):
Or the House, you know, to be spanked in public,
you know. And it's not about any results. It's just
about the Democrats smearing people directly and indirectly Trump, you know,
to put the stink on them, and it works because
they're very good at the showmanship. And no matter what
Tim Bondi does, by the.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Way, they're not good at it. They think, I think
when people see bloominon on these slimy people. First of all,
most ninety percent of the public never even sees it.
But when you look at that, don't you just cringe
looking at these creepy old senators.

Speaker 6 (19:15):
I do.

Speaker 11 (19:16):
They're horrifying, but you know, you know, but.

Speaker 10 (19:18):
It seems that they seem to be able to put
enough stink on people that people buy into it.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
You know.

Speaker 10 (19:23):
I'm gonna talk to a friend later on who goes
to the VA, and I guarantee you he's gonna tell
me Trump shut down the Va and I can't get
my benefits and I you know, and it's like I
just shake my head.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Well that's true. It's not about logic. It's just emotion.
It's just emotional. It's a secret of propaganda. You just
keep repeating something over and over and over and over again,
and enough people start to believe it. Let's go to
Rich and Myrtle Beach Rich. How you doing, Hey?

Speaker 11 (19:48):
Thanks? Mark? Two quick points. You know, the greatest thing
about Trump is he hires everybody who's exactly like Kim
Bondi cash for tel hegsaid. They all give it to
these people. They give it to them right back. And
you know, you can't let the senator speak. He's got
no sound clip for his advertising. And you know, you know, uh,
what's his name of South Carolina senator down here, Lindsey

(20:10):
Graham is a complete putts. But he's screaming about Sue
and Jack Smith. You know, Congress gets where with murder
was smearing everybody in the world, and nobody can sue
anybody in Congress or the Assembly or the Senator because
they have this immunity. They can say anything they want
when rupt they're speaking and smear everybody in slander everybody
and there's no attribution against those people.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, that's a good point that should be changed. That law.
Actually you can I believe it not slander, but you
can say anything you want standing on the floor of
Congress and you can't be sued. You have immunity that
actually should be taken away. Let's go to Stuart in
South Carolina. Stuart, how you doing?

Speaker 12 (20:42):
Hey, Mark, carry you. I was just gonna say Jack
Smith actually did with technology what Jay Edgar Hoover did
blackmailing people follow him. He followed Martin Luther King and
the Kennedys. It was basically the same program, just different
people at a different time.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, it's Jack Smith. He could have a real legal
problem here. Thanks for calling Stuart. Besides the documents he
was investigating January sixth, he'll claim that's what he was
doing here with these senators investigating January sixth, and he
got their phone records of everybody they called. But apparently
he also got all their GPS data to see everywhere

(21:20):
they went. That's where he's going to get into trouble
with the loss it. There was no reason for theres
no reason for any of this, but getting the GPS data,
and nobody knows exactly the full extent of what he got.
He may have actually gotten transcripts, he may have actually
listened to calls. That's why you need a total investigation,
and you need these lawsuits to bring all that out.

(21:41):
That Jack Smith is a dirty, dirty prosecutor. You know,
if you needed a special counsel to go after Trump,
there's about twenty five hundred people you could have used
right in DC. But they went halfway around the world
to the Hague to fly this guy in. Because he's
famous for being a hit man for the left. He
will do the dirty work on some of the dirtiest

(22:01):
hit jobs ever, and all of them, by the way,
the good news, all of them have been overturned in court,
all of his supposed successes. Hey, when we come back,
one of the great talk show hosts in America, Howie Carr,
will be with us next on seven to ten wor.

Speaker 6 (22:17):
You're listening to the Mark Simone Show.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Well, Howie Carr one of the great talk show hosts
in America, a best selling author. You'll love his books.
In fact, the latest one is now available. You can
go to Howie Carrshow dot com. You can get everything there.
Howie carshow dot com you're hear a show there? Get
the podcasts also on iHeart Howie Carr, How you doing
very good?

Speaker 1 (22:44):
I'm just looking for my mugshot. If James call me,
I can't wait to get it. I mean, come on,
did they didn't give us a purple walk? They got
to give us a mug shot?

Speaker 6 (22:53):
Right.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
You know one of your books a million years ago.
I remember one of your first books. It was about
corrupt FBI agents and I said, corrupt FBI. I never
believed it, but uh, well you were ahead of your
time on that.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Uh well it was it was just where I was living.
You know, I could see it firsthand. And uh you know,
anybody with his eyes open could see it. And you
know my new book I got, I got all these
pictures of people that were set up by the FBI,
you know, just just just dead bodies lying in the street.

Speaker 6 (23:22):
Not just in Boston either.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
They killed people in uh Florida, they killed people in Oklahoma.
I mean they this is this is what they do,
you know, not all of them, but you know it's
this corruption is is nothing new. And and you know
ja Edgar Hoover used to try to get blackmail material
on members of Congress, just like Jack Smith was and

(23:43):
Joe Biden were doing. But you know the difference is
I think, uh all, all j Edgar Hoover wanted was
to keep his job after the mandatory retirement agent, maybe
get a few winners in fixed mob horse races, you know.
I mean these guys wanted to basically destroy democracy and
put put sitting members of Congress in prison.

Speaker 6 (24:04):
It's it's just outrageous.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, so call me, uh but what do you think
he was just he obviously must have known about that
Jay Groover stuff. He said, I'll do that, I'll copy that.
That's a good business model. It's been the first time
he met Trump, he showed him the dirty stuff he
had on him. Is that what he was trying to do?
Be Jaed Groover?

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah, I think it's just endemic to the to the
to the Bureau. You know, this is this is just
the way they they always operated. And and this guy
called me, I mean he he was. I think he
was somewhat more dangerous because he was so sanctimonious. I mean,
I don't really think. I don't think j Ed Groover
ever thought of himself as you know being you know,

(24:45):
he knew what he was, you know, just a you know,
a weird, you know, closeted guy who you know, just
you know, wanted to maintain power. I mean, you know,
they there was a reason why they called why they
nicknamed h call me the Cardinal, you know, because he
was so damn sync demonious and uh, you know what

(25:05):
he he just he thought and look at the titles
of his books.

Speaker 6 (25:09):
I can't remember now that they had, you know.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
His higher standard, higher loyalty.

Speaker 6 (25:14):
Yeah, yeah, ethics, justice, all his stuff.

Speaker 9 (25:17):
You know.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Again, the words of Ralph Waldo Emerson always come to mind.
The Lottery spoke of his honor, the faster we counted
our spoons, and that's that's really the case.

Speaker 6 (25:27):
But James called me, you know.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, a lot of people call him James Cardinal Colly. Yeah,
and tell me about Jack Smith, the bug eyed weirdo
with the cape. This guy is a real weirdo.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah, I don't know, you know, I I you know,
I thought to myself when I first heard his name
was Jack Smith, I thought that sounds like one of
Whitey Bulger's alienases that he used on the run, you know,
because you can't you can't.

Speaker 6 (25:53):
Really track down the Jack Smith too many.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
And then then I noticed Trump was saying this, think
Jack Smith, if that really is his name, you know,
I mean, the guy is just he's demented. I mean,
what was it? What was he thinking of? I mean,
he started doing this stuff. It's one of my cologists
that he was trying to say, Well, why didn't Durham
report on this? You know, John Durham, the Special counsel

(26:19):
on the Russia hopes. But you know Durham Durham wrapped
up his report in like twenty two. Jack Smith was
doing this thirty months after the January sixth the disturbances.

Speaker 6 (26:34):
What was he trying to do?

Speaker 1 (26:36):
I mean, there's no there's no rational, proper explanation of
what he was doing. He was you know, the thing
is when you when you try to run down someone's
phone records, I mean, you know, we all know what
you're looking you're looking for, you know, was who was
he taught? Who were these people talking to? Were they

(26:57):
talking to boyfriends or girlfriends or or you know, uh,
sinister lobbyists who were offering them cash. I mean that's
what they were looking for. I think, you know, that's
I know that's what Jangar Hoover was looking for when
he took out a guy named Cornelius Gallagher who was
a congressman from New Jersey, you know, and he was

(27:17):
he Gallagher was starting to ask questions about FBI corruption.
He said, and they said, well, look here your records. Uh,
you know, you were speaking to mafia guy. He was
in He was a congressman from New Jersey in the sixties.
Of course he was speaking to Maia and they they
leaked it to Life magazine.

Speaker 6 (27:34):
I mean, believe it or not.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Life Magazine was a you know, a force in those days.
And they they destroyed his career, and they and and
it's it's the same mo o and and nothing changed
except the same, except they're more except Comy was more
sanctimonious than Jayed gar Hoover.

Speaker 6 (27:50):
That's the only thing I can see that's changed. Can
you see the difference.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, it's just horrible.

Speaker 6 (27:55):
You know.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
The biggest crime in Jacksmith was putting out those pictures
of hundreds of boxes. All these boxes, not a single
box had any classified documents in him. In the end,
he found thirty five classified documents that would be one
inch if you put him in a folder, right.

Speaker 6 (28:10):
And remember I remember the day it happened.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Merrick Garland goes out there and says, you know, we're
not I'm not going to take any questions because we're
not going to try this case in the press. And
then like thirty minutes later, there's a story on the
website of the Washington Post talking about what they quote
unquote found all these classified documents.

Speaker 6 (28:28):
I mean, it's just it was so outrageous.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
And then and.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Then now they're complaining, well, you know, President President Trump
told Pam BONDI to indict call me. Well, you know,
you know, I'm glad to see that. You know, Michael
Goodwood mentioned it today in the New York Post. I mean,
it's it's all out there. In twenty twenty two, they
had a story in The New York Times, again, another

(28:52):
another religious sheet of the Democrat Party, culled as saying,
you know, Joe Biden is angry that Merrick Garland and
isn't moving faster to indict Donald Trump.

Speaker 6 (29:02):
I mean, what's the difference. What's the difference.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
The fact that the New York Times they still not
reported this Jack Smith's story. How did they justify that
in their own minds. Aren't they supposed to be a newspaper.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, all the news that spit the print that's still
that's still up at the top of the front page,
I think, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, But it's all it's all the news that fits
the narrative. That's all it is now.

Speaker 6 (29:25):
Yeah, right, exactly. They're not they're they're not.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
They're not going to print any of this, and they
are they have they printed anything about about the They
printed very little about Come's indictment except to say that it's,
you know, outrageous and politically inspired. I mean, this is
they it's it's not a real news. It looks like
a newspaper, but it's not a real newspaper.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
And I don't I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
You know, you you laugh about no one reading the
daily news. I mean, honestly, who reads the New York
Times anymore other than you know, members.

Speaker 6 (29:56):
Of the cult.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, no, those angry old women all over the Upper
s Side and the No, they read it. They'll quote
it to you. They're watching MSNBC. They actually think they're
watching some sort of news network there. But you know,
if you look at that Morning Joe panel, there's more
scandal on that panel than any that that old friend
of yours Mike Barnacle, and who's that Steve Ratner. They've

(30:19):
all been in more scandals, these people. So yeah, will
this ever end? Will the cult ever dissolve?

Speaker 6 (30:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
I mean I always I always say to my audience,
you know, you know, please in this case, I don't
ask them often, but follow my example and cut the cork.
Cut the cable cork. That's the only thing that's keeping
these uh, these networks alive. I mean, I don't think
and I think the owners understand that. I mean MSNBC
and CNN. They're both for sale, right.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, Well MSNBC is actually gone now from NBC. Uh,
they're being cut off from all NBC news. They've been
thrown out of the building. They're moving the Times Square
to a studio.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
I like the I like to CBS people, you know,
they're so angry about Barry Weiss and they're saying, what
are we doing wrong? Well, you lost fifty million box
last year. To me, that's you know, call me old fashioned,
but that to me is a sign that you're doing
something wrong. There's a problem with your business model. You know,
nobody's watching your stuff because it's so bad.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Well, hey, everybody, we're out of time. Get Howie Carr's
latest book. It's called Mass Corruption. You'll love all of
his books, but the new book's Mass Corruption. What's the
best place to get at howikarshow dot com.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Hey, yeah, HOWI caarshow dot com. Just click on store
and it'll soon be an Amazon.

Speaker 6 (31:38):
But it's not.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
You know, we don't have the actual hard physical copies
for a couple more weeks. So go to Howie Carshow
dot com, click on store and we have all the
old We have at least a couple of chapters on
the old FBI corruption in Boston, on all the dead
bodies the FBI turned kill They killed people, They actually
killed people. They some of them went to prison for

(31:59):
killing people FBI special agents.

Speaker 6 (32:02):
So this is nothing new, all right, get itself.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Get the book Mass Corruption. Go to Howiecarshow dot com.
You can get a show there in the podcast Howiecarshow
dot com. Howie car Thanks for being with us, Thanks Mark,
all right, by bye, take care. Hey, we'll get to
the mayoral race and a whole lot more coming up
on seven ten wor marks war Hey, stay right there,

(32:26):
don't go away. We got another hour to go and
a lot to get to. Mark Simone here on seven
ten wo
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