December 24, 2025 • 16 mins
Curtis Sliwa fills in for Mark Simone. Curtis is joined by his wife, Nancy Sliwa, for a special hour dedicated to their shared passion for animals. Nancy shares stories about her upbringing, her lifelong love of animals, and how this passion brought the couple together. The Sliwas discuss their experiences rescuing and caring for animals at home, offering insights into the joys and challenges of animal rescue.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now the Red Beret has returned to radio. Curtis Lee
guest host the Mark Simone Show on sevent ten wo R. So, yeah,
(00:23):
I just came through the tunnel here at Ihearts sevent
w R.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's all red.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
You know, it could be the locker room for the
Kansas City Chiefs Arrowhead Stadium now moving to Kansas. You know,
like Dorothy, you know, clicking her red shoes. But I'm
festooned all in red, red satine jacket, red beret, feeling
(00:51):
like Sanni Claus and also having received a gift to
be able to broadcast all of you and our new
found talk radio station seven to ten WR that Nancy
and I listened to as often as possible. And she
joins me right now as she joined me at many
(01:11):
times on WABC. No longer our place to be where
they were always bashing, Curtis. But I know you're busy
getting ready for our trip ahead the next two days,
as we'll be dealing with family members on your side
of the family. So I'd like it just to give
everybody here an idea who you are and where you
(01:31):
came from. As long term listeners here at seven to
ten war.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Well that's a pretty tall order. But let's see. So
where I came from. I grew up in Long Island.
I graduated from Stonybrook, I went to law school in Brooklyn,
and once I got to Brooklyn, I never looked back.
You know, I love being in the city, and living
(02:00):
in Brooklyn was the first time that I had discovered
all of these cats that wander around outside. And that's
when I first discovered the concept of the colony cats
and all the people out there who were taking care
of them, and you know, had like regular groups of
outdoor cats because as you know, the shelter system is
(02:22):
so filled up, and unfortunately, you know, they're a kill
shelter in the city, so you know, they bring them in,
they warehouse them a bit, and then after that happens,
they euthanize them pretty quickly, even when they don't really
have any significant types of problems. So, you know, that's
not a great place to be. And I realized that
there's this incredible community of people out there who are
(02:45):
doing exactly what you know, it's passionate. I'm passionate about,
which is taking care of them, realizing that they can
live outside as long as you know, it's done within
like the structure of the colony, which is making sure
they're spade and neutered, providing them with houses, especially in
inclement weather like right now where it's cold outside, and
(03:07):
you know, feeding them on a regular basis, so that's
way they have a food source. So I mean, you know,
I guess that's the And then Ned, I met you
about ten years ago or so, and you know we've
been together ever since, So that's that's me in a nutshell.
I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I remember you were living in Sunset Park at the time,
and you said, there are cats living in the alleyway,
you know, swear all the garages were. And I said,
I didn't see Anny. I walked through the alleyway. I
didn't see Anny. And then you walked through and you
made this sound like the female version of Doctor Doolittle.
(03:42):
And I mean, cats were coming out of every Nikrannian
corner and they were rubbing up against your leg, the
tails in the air, all of them with all of
their own unique personalities as I observed them, and there
were so many people just like yourself, mostly women, some
(04:03):
men out of pocket who care for these animals, sometimes
in distress, will also serve as a barrier because their
presence keeps the rats, the mice, the rodents away, and
so they earn their keep many times over without there
having to be pest asides and all other kinds of
(04:26):
alternatives they used to try to eliminate the rats and
the mice that you'll never eliminate. You could have daytime
with them, but you can keep them at bay. What
was it like when people would turn to you and
it'll call you a cat lady or disparagingly make fun
of you because you and others were reaching into your
(04:47):
pocket spending your own money to care for these animals.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Well, I mean, well, first of all, I don't get
offended by people, you know, I usually try to explain
it to them, because you know, the mis inception I
would get a lot of times is like somehow I
brought them there, Like I created these cats that I
try to you know, you have to explain no, no, no,
there's so many of them that live outside all the time,
and what I'm doing is basically caring for the ones
(05:13):
that are here. And if if for some reason, if
someone calls, like the you know, the shelter to come
pick them up, it just creates a vacuum in that area,
and then what happens is other cats in the area
move in. There's just so many cats you don't see
them all the time. So I'm you know, I'm pretty
tough skinned, like I wouldn't really take it when people
are getting annoyed. But that's why you also have to
(05:34):
make sure you take care of these things in a
decent basis. So for example, you know, you don't leave
the food around, you don't do things that are going
to clearly bother neighbors, and you know, create nuisance. So
as long as and again that's also why you want
to make sure that you get the cats fixed. I
mean that's essential. You can't keep having the kittens around.
And then plus when they're fixed, they calm down a lot.
(05:54):
I mean, the the aggression that happens with the mail
cats when they're not fixed, I mean, it's all territory. Also,
you know, you can get their behavior to a point
where you know they're I mean again they're they're the
same as the indoor cats. It's just they need, you know,
the very specific attention because it's a tough it's a
tough time out there. You know, there's a lot of
(06:14):
cats that just inavertently stumble on poisons things of that nature.
Like I would have to explain to people, like, you know,
don't inadvertently throw things down, because that happens a lot too.
I mean, you know, it always bothers me in the winter. Now,
obviously you see a lot of people throwing down the
like rock salt. The city throws down the rock salt.
That's actually dangerous for animals because they use like the
cheapest variety. So you know, you have this. I mean,
(06:36):
it's a tough life for them out there. So you know,
I just you know, I'm very compassionate. You know, I'll
have people who you know, you know, I feel like
everyone can understand it if you explain it to them,
and then if they don't understand it after that, then
to heck with them, because you know, they're living creatures
and I can't see any justification for letting someone's dislike
of them ever stop the behavior of caring for animals.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Now, what I loved about Wisconsin when I was up
there organizing Guardian Angels and Milwaukee is they don't use
rock salt because they had, you know, years ago, they
had feet of snow it's not like that as it
used to be. But they would put down a brine
of parmesan cheese, a brine, yeah, and naturally, I mean
(07:20):
even some people, you know it's old parmesan cheese. They'd
be down there, you know, licking the asphalt. But there
were so many other alternatives, and I think one singular
thing that comes across is I've noticed some time to
time you'll be walking the streets where we live and
you'll see some pigeons in distress and you'll feed them.
(07:42):
Some people will refer them as rats with wings, others
as basically the official bird of New York City. Fact
that i'd been elected mayor, as you know, on the
campaign trail, I said, we would have taken the New
York City flag. It's like some indescript bird on there.
(08:02):
I would put a pigeon. That's what New York City
is known for. And I noticed some people would be
talking and she's feeding the pigeons, and I will walk
up to them and I'd say, you got a problem
with that, Oh no, Curtis, No, you know that's my wife, Nancy.
You got a problem with that? No? No, And then
they have spikes that they yeah, the windowsills.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
The aggression against the pigeons I find really really distasteful.
To your point, the spikes that are allowed to be
put up and then now you have pigeons that are maimed.
I mean that to me. I can't believe that's even
legal that that happened. But I definitely catch a lot
of guff for throwing down the bird seat with the pigeons.
(08:48):
But then usually the people who are saying something to
me are walking their dog who's urinating on the sidewalk,
so I'm not really sure where they are on their
high horse telling me anything about friendliness of animals, So
you know, to eat it on, I guess right, yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
It's a much better remedy. If you don't want pigeons
flocking around, you just put up a plastic owl. It's
like in cornfields when they put up scarecrows. That has
the same impact without damaging the pigeons. And it's a
horrific death that they suffer because they get impaled. And
(09:25):
some people in their minds, you know, that's a OK.
But I think the broader issue is you know, and
again it's what I based both of my campaigns on
and running for New York. One of the many issues
animal welfare at Mahatma Gandhi. You know, there will be
people who criticize him because they hate animals. He said
(09:48):
that a society that does not take care of its
animals does not take care of its people. And you
have seen how much time and energy we in the
Guardian Angels, with your help, have put into caring for
the homeless and the emotionally disturbed because we don't take
care of them, and we don't take care of our animals.
The abuse the dogs that are raised to fight and
(10:10):
kill and maim, and nothing is done to stop that.
As you mentioned when spading and neutering, it would go
a long way and keeping these many animals God's creatures
out of harm's way.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, I mean, and again that's the whole goalposts of everything.
You know, you don't want to have the breeder animals.
I mean, there's no reason to keep creating you know,
these you know, dogs and cats when the reality is
there's not enough home for them all together. So I
absolutely think that that has to stop right away. I mean,
you can't be having neck on.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Well, we'll be able to travel the vision with your mother,
Beth who just celebrated her birthday, who I believe out
in Bohemia really introduced you to the life of people
who dedicate themselves to animal would I be correct on that.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah. My mom's like first job, believe it or not,
when she, uh, you know, got a job in Long
Island was working at an animal shelter, so you know,
like a veterinarian office. Rather, so during the weekend when
she would be working, I would go in with her.
So it was as though they were all like I
had a whole bunch of cats and dogs that I
(11:23):
could visit because they were the ones who were sort
of waiting in the the kennels, like if either they
were recovering or maybe they were for adoption. So that
was actually very cool. I mean. And I also grew
up with having a dog and cats in the household,
so you know, I'm just very familiar with them in general.
And yeah, I mean, and you know, of course, growing
(11:44):
up in Long Island it's a lot more nature, so
you know, you would you just you know, you see
things more often. Like I had a neighbor next to
me who had, believe it or not, chickens and roosters
and things like that like a little farm going on,
so you know, it's just a much more natural to
see these animals.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Well, the defining moment for me with you and your
passion for animals was in that first campaign when I
ran against Eric Adams twenty twenty one, and I warned
everybody he would be corrupt and we would have chaos,
but nobody listened. About halfway through the campaign and you
were scrolling on the internet the death row list that
(12:25):
they put up from the Animal Care and Control the shelters,
because these are kill shelters, they are not no kill shelters.
And you said, I got to run to East New
York Lindon Boulevard to the animal shelter there that is
now closed to rescue this cat. And I remember you
(12:45):
had cold and they said, yeah, well we're opening five
And I said, Nancy, you can't go down there on
your own. I mean, that's right by Saint Fort Shanada's
that's on Linen Boulevard, that psychology. No, you can't go there.
That's oh no, that's Cyper Sells.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
They have drive by shootings.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I'm gonna go with you. Yes, we got in the
animal welfare van of the Guardian Angels and we were
driving halfway there. We were on Woodhaven Boulevard. It was
like two o'clock in the afternoon, and they called you
and just relate to our listeners all throughout the Tri
State area. In the world the insensitivity of the people.
(13:30):
They're knowing you were on your way to rescue this
cat that was on death row.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, so I had already basically secured the rescue of
this small kitten, and those are the ones that are,
believe it or not, first to be put down in
the shelters a lot of times because if you don't
have someone to bottle feed them, they you know, they
don't have full time staff like that. So we were
on our way and I got to call that the
(13:57):
medical team. Ultimately they decided, well, well, I don't think
this cat's gonna, you know, farewell, so we're just going
to euthanize it, like you know. And that to me
was incredible because when you adopt these cats, a lot
of times when they do have any potential medical issues,
they're not footing the bill for any of the medical care.
So it's whether it's on them to you know, relinquish
(14:21):
the animal knowing that any medical care you have to supply.
I mean, there's no cost to them to allow you
to take that animal home. So again they just decided, well,
we took a second look, and we don't really think
this this cat's gonna you know, farewell, so we're just
gonna go ahead and euthanize it, knowing I was on
my way to get this cat. So that was really heartbreaking.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I remember, people need to know. My wife was crying
for days. She pulled the vehicle over and I vow
to you right then, I said, if I become the mayor,
this becomes a priority. Can you imagine.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
And then the other side note to that was because
you want to mention that story about what happened with
the animal care and control. Right away they pulled my
ability to actually get these animals from the shelter as
like a stick of to youth type moment, apparently because
they don't like when people tell the truth about what's
(15:16):
going on in the shelter system. So right away they
took me off the list of being able to adopt
these animals. So that was a real nice touch.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
So to all of our critics out there, including the
President of the United States, I remember less Maria Bartoloma.
He was on the show Fox Business in the White House,
and he was railing against you and I for rescuing cats,
and if I was elected, they would be in Gracie Mansion.
(15:44):
And I'm saying to myself while I'm watching him almost
with great delight, attacking us, saying, excuse me, mister president,
you realize in the room you're in now was another
great Republican president called Teddy Roosevelt who had eighty animals
at the White House when he was president, dogs and
cats in the White House, right where you're sitting now
(16:05):
speaking to Maria Bartoloma.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
But of course he.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Wouldn't care about that, he who cares only about Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Up next, we got it.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
We have to have this conversation. It's the lead story
today about student loans garnishing. The United States will bail
out countries like Argentina, corrupt as they are, but our
country will not bail out those who are in debt
because of student loans. We'll get an update from Nancy Sleewez.
(16:38):
We work our way right into Christmas Day at your
newfound station. A gift to all of you seven to
ten wor
Now the Red Beret has returned to radio. Curtis Lee
guest host the Mark Simone Show on sevent ten wo R. So, yeah,
(00:23):
I just came through the tunnel here at Ihearts sevent
w R.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's all red.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
You know, it could be the locker room for the
Kansas City Chiefs Arrowhead Stadium now moving to Kansas. You know,
like Dorothy, you know, clicking her red shoes. But I'm
festooned all in red, red satine jacket, red beret, feeling
(00:51):
like Sanni Claus and also having received a gift to
be able to broadcast all of you and our new
found talk radio station seven to ten WR that Nancy
and I listened to as often as possible. And she
joins me right now as she joined me at many
(01:11):
times on WABC. No longer our place to be where
they were always bashing, Curtis. But I know you're busy
getting ready for our trip ahead the next two days,
as we'll be dealing with family members on your side
of the family. So I'd like it just to give
everybody here an idea who you are and where you
(01:31):
came from. As long term listeners here at seven to
ten war.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Well that's a pretty tall order. But let's see. So
where I came from. I grew up in Long Island.
I graduated from Stonybrook, I went to law school in Brooklyn,
and once I got to Brooklyn, I never looked back.
You know, I love being in the city, and living
(02:00):
in Brooklyn was the first time that I had discovered
all of these cats that wander around outside. And that's
when I first discovered the concept of the colony cats
and all the people out there who were taking care
of them, and you know, had like regular groups of
outdoor cats because as you know, the shelter system is
(02:22):
so filled up, and unfortunately, you know, they're a kill
shelter in the city, so you know, they bring them in,
they warehouse them a bit, and then after that happens,
they euthanize them pretty quickly, even when they don't really
have any significant types of problems. So, you know, that's
not a great place to be. And I realized that
there's this incredible community of people out there who are
(02:45):
doing exactly what you know, it's passionate. I'm passionate about,
which is taking care of them, realizing that they can
live outside as long as you know, it's done within
like the structure of the colony, which is making sure
they're spade and neutered, providing them with houses, especially in
inclement weather like right now where it's cold outside, and
(03:07):
you know, feeding them on a regular basis, so that's
way they have a food source. So I mean, you know,
I guess that's the And then Ned, I met you
about ten years ago or so, and you know we've
been together ever since, So that's that's me in a nutshell.
I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I remember you were living in Sunset Park at the time,
and you said, there are cats living in the alleyway,
you know, swear all the garages were. And I said,
I didn't see Anny. I walked through the alleyway. I
didn't see Anny. And then you walked through and you
made this sound like the female version of Doctor Doolittle.
(03:42):
And I mean, cats were coming out of every Nikrannian
corner and they were rubbing up against your leg, the
tails in the air, all of them with all of
their own unique personalities as I observed them, and there
were so many people just like yourself, mostly women, some
(04:03):
men out of pocket who care for these animals, sometimes
in distress, will also serve as a barrier because their
presence keeps the rats, the mice, the rodents away, and
so they earn their keep many times over without there
having to be pest asides and all other kinds of
(04:26):
alternatives they used to try to eliminate the rats and
the mice that you'll never eliminate. You could have daytime
with them, but you can keep them at bay. What
was it like when people would turn to you and
it'll call you a cat lady or disparagingly make fun
of you because you and others were reaching into your
(04:47):
pocket spending your own money to care for these animals.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Well, I mean, well, first of all, I don't get
offended by people, you know, I usually try to explain
it to them, because you know, the mis inception I
would get a lot of times is like somehow I
brought them there, Like I created these cats that I
try to you know, you have to explain no, no, no,
there's so many of them that live outside all the time,
and what I'm doing is basically caring for the ones
(05:13):
that are here. And if if for some reason, if
someone calls, like the you know, the shelter to come
pick them up, it just creates a vacuum in that area,
and then what happens is other cats in the area
move in. There's just so many cats you don't see
them all the time. So I'm you know, I'm pretty
tough skinned, like I wouldn't really take it when people
are getting annoyed. But that's why you also have to
(05:34):
make sure you take care of these things in a
decent basis. So for example, you know, you don't leave
the food around, you don't do things that are going
to clearly bother neighbors, and you know, create nuisance. So
as long as and again that's also why you want
to make sure that you get the cats fixed. I
mean that's essential. You can't keep having the kittens around.
And then plus when they're fixed, they calm down a lot.
(05:54):
I mean, the the aggression that happens with the mail
cats when they're not fixed, I mean, it's all territory. Also,
you know, you can get their behavior to a point
where you know they're I mean again they're they're the
same as the indoor cats. It's just they need, you know,
the very specific attention because it's a tough it's a
tough time out there. You know, there's a lot of
(06:14):
cats that just inavertently stumble on poisons things of that nature.
Like I would have to explain to people, like, you know,
don't inadvertently throw things down, because that happens a lot too.
I mean, you know, it always bothers me in the winter. Now,
obviously you see a lot of people throwing down the
like rock salt. The city throws down the rock salt.
That's actually dangerous for animals because they use like the
cheapest variety. So you know, you have this. I mean,
(06:36):
it's a tough life for them out there. So you know,
I just you know, I'm very compassionate. You know, I'll
have people who you know, you know, I feel like
everyone can understand it if you explain it to them,
and then if they don't understand it after that, then
to heck with them, because you know, they're living creatures
and I can't see any justification for letting someone's dislike
of them ever stop the behavior of caring for animals.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Now, what I loved about Wisconsin when I was up
there organizing Guardian Angels and Milwaukee is they don't use
rock salt because they had, you know, years ago, they
had feet of snow it's not like that as it
used to be. But they would put down a brine
of parmesan cheese, a brine, yeah, and naturally, I mean
(07:20):
even some people, you know it's old parmesan cheese. They'd
be down there, you know, licking the asphalt. But there
were so many other alternatives, and I think one singular
thing that comes across is I've noticed some time to
time you'll be walking the streets where we live and
you'll see some pigeons in distress and you'll feed them.
(07:42):
Some people will refer them as rats with wings, others
as basically the official bird of New York City. Fact
that i'd been elected mayor, as you know, on the
campaign trail, I said, we would have taken the New
York City flag. It's like some indescript bird on there.
(08:02):
I would put a pigeon. That's what New York City
is known for. And I noticed some people would be
talking and she's feeding the pigeons, and I will walk
up to them and I'd say, you got a problem
with that, Oh no, Curtis, No, you know that's my wife, Nancy.
You got a problem with that? No? No, And then
they have spikes that they yeah, the windowsills.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
The aggression against the pigeons I find really really distasteful.
To your point, the spikes that are allowed to be
put up and then now you have pigeons that are maimed.
I mean that to me. I can't believe that's even
legal that that happened. But I definitely catch a lot
of guff for throwing down the bird seat with the pigeons.
(08:48):
But then usually the people who are saying something to
me are walking their dog who's urinating on the sidewalk,
so I'm not really sure where they are on their
high horse telling me anything about friendliness of animals, So
you know, to eat it on, I guess right, yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
It's a much better remedy. If you don't want pigeons
flocking around, you just put up a plastic owl. It's
like in cornfields when they put up scarecrows. That has
the same impact without damaging the pigeons. And it's a
horrific death that they suffer because they get impaled. And
(09:25):
some people in their minds, you know, that's a OK.
But I think the broader issue is you know, and
again it's what I based both of my campaigns on
and running for New York. One of the many issues
animal welfare at Mahatma Gandhi. You know, there will be
people who criticize him because they hate animals. He said
(09:48):
that a society that does not take care of its
animals does not take care of its people. And you
have seen how much time and energy we in the
Guardian Angels, with your help, have put into caring for
the homeless and the emotionally disturbed because we don't take
care of them, and we don't take care of our animals.
The abuse the dogs that are raised to fight and
(10:10):
kill and maim, and nothing is done to stop that.
As you mentioned when spading and neutering, it would go
a long way and keeping these many animals God's creatures
out of harm's way.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, I mean, and again that's the whole goalposts of everything.
You know, you don't want to have the breeder animals.
I mean, there's no reason to keep creating you know,
these you know, dogs and cats when the reality is
there's not enough home for them all together. So I
absolutely think that that has to stop right away. I mean,
you can't be having neck on.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Well, we'll be able to travel the vision with your mother,
Beth who just celebrated her birthday, who I believe out
in Bohemia really introduced you to the life of people
who dedicate themselves to animal would I be correct on that.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah. My mom's like first job, believe it or not,
when she, uh, you know, got a job in Long
Island was working at an animal shelter, so you know,
like a veterinarian office. Rather, so during the weekend when
she would be working, I would go in with her.
So it was as though they were all like I
had a whole bunch of cats and dogs that I
(11:23):
could visit because they were the ones who were sort
of waiting in the the kennels, like if either they
were recovering or maybe they were for adoption. So that
was actually very cool. I mean. And I also grew
up with having a dog and cats in the household,
so you know, I'm just very familiar with them in general.
And yeah, I mean, and you know, of course, growing
(11:44):
up in Long Island it's a lot more nature, so
you know, you would you just you know, you see
things more often. Like I had a neighbor next to
me who had, believe it or not, chickens and roosters
and things like that like a little farm going on,
so you know, it's just a much more natural to
see these animals.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Well, the defining moment for me with you and your
passion for animals was in that first campaign when I
ran against Eric Adams twenty twenty one, and I warned
everybody he would be corrupt and we would have chaos,
but nobody listened. About halfway through the campaign and you
were scrolling on the internet the death row list that
(12:25):
they put up from the Animal Care and Control the shelters,
because these are kill shelters, they are not no kill shelters.
And you said, I got to run to East New
York Lindon Boulevard to the animal shelter there that is
now closed to rescue this cat. And I remember you
(12:45):
had cold and they said, yeah, well we're opening five
And I said, Nancy, you can't go down there on
your own. I mean, that's right by Saint Fort Shanada's
that's on Linen Boulevard, that psychology. No, you can't go there.
That's oh no, that's Cyper Sells.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
They have drive by shootings.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I'm gonna go with you. Yes, we got in the
animal welfare van of the Guardian Angels and we were
driving halfway there. We were on Woodhaven Boulevard. It was
like two o'clock in the afternoon, and they called you
and just relate to our listeners all throughout the Tri
State area. In the world the insensitivity of the people.
(13:30):
They're knowing you were on your way to rescue this
cat that was on death row.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, so I had already basically secured the rescue of
this small kitten, and those are the ones that are,
believe it or not, first to be put down in
the shelters a lot of times because if you don't
have someone to bottle feed them, they you know, they
don't have full time staff like that. So we were
on our way and I got to call that the
(13:57):
medical team. Ultimately they decided, well, well, I don't think
this cat's gonna, you know, farewell, so we're just going
to euthanize it, like you know. And that to me
was incredible because when you adopt these cats, a lot
of times when they do have any potential medical issues,
they're not footing the bill for any of the medical care.
So it's whether it's on them to you know, relinquish
(14:21):
the animal knowing that any medical care you have to supply.
I mean, there's no cost to them to allow you
to take that animal home. So again they just decided, well,
we took a second look, and we don't really think
this this cat's gonna you know, farewell, so we're just
gonna go ahead and euthanize it, knowing I was on
my way to get this cat. So that was really heartbreaking.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I remember, people need to know. My wife was crying
for days. She pulled the vehicle over and I vow
to you right then, I said, if I become the mayor,
this becomes a priority. Can you imagine.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
And then the other side note to that was because
you want to mention that story about what happened with
the animal care and control. Right away they pulled my
ability to actually get these animals from the shelter as
like a stick of to youth type moment, apparently because
they don't like when people tell the truth about what's
(15:16):
going on in the shelter system. So right away they
took me off the list of being able to adopt
these animals. So that was a real nice touch.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
So to all of our critics out there, including the
President of the United States, I remember less Maria Bartoloma.
He was on the show Fox Business in the White House,
and he was railing against you and I for rescuing cats,
and if I was elected, they would be in Gracie Mansion.
(15:44):
And I'm saying to myself while I'm watching him almost
with great delight, attacking us, saying, excuse me, mister president,
you realize in the room you're in now was another
great Republican president called Teddy Roosevelt who had eighty animals
at the White House when he was president, dogs and
cats in the White House, right where you're sitting now
(16:05):
speaking to Maria Bartoloma.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
But of course he.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Wouldn't care about that, he who cares only about Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Up next, we got it.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
We have to have this conversation. It's the lead story
today about student loans garnishing. The United States will bail
out countries like Argentina, corrupt as they are, but our
country will not bail out those who are in debt
because of student loans. We'll get an update from Nancy Sleewez.
(16:38):
We work our way right into Christmas Day at your
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