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Speaker 3 (01:11):
Good morning listeners, And it's that time of the year
where we are coming close to ending one year and
getting ready to step into the new year, and it's
important that we take a look at how the year
has been and how are we going to step into
the new year. So today we will be touching some
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of those things. So let's jump into it and see
what the show is going to be all about today.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Hither Diva.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
So great to see you, Good to have you, Tanya,
Thank you absolutely. So. Usually we start out, do you
recall a moment, whether it was you know, when you
were a child or when you were young, when a
person or in a moment left a positive.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Mark on you, left a positive mark absolutely. I was
eleven years old and I had Well, let me give
you a little backstory because it'll make this make sense.
So I was born homeless. My mother didn't have a
place to take me to when she gave birth to me.
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A woman, an angel I call her, saw my mom
crying on a park bench and helped my mother find
her way to a government housing the government housing authority
which placed us in government housing. So I grew up
in a government housing project. And as a child, I
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had been abused. I had experienced colorism because my fair
skin didn't match up to the darker complexed African American
folks in my community. I had been bullied. I don't
know my father, so I was fatherless. And a combination
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of all of these things left me feeling different and
looking for where my place of belonging would be. As
I in third grade, I was bullied as a child.
I was bullied in the cafeteria by the popular girls
in school. And that third grade incident left a mark
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for me, and I made a decision about where I
felt I belong and do not belong in the world,
and most of us do as kids because belonging diva
is one of the most important needs we have, biological
needs we have. And so I was looking. I determined
in that cafeteria that I didn't belong, that I don't
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matter at all. Okay, girl, yeah, yes, exactly. So I
made a decision that I don't belong. Now fast forward
to I'm mage eleven. To answer your question, I made
eleven and I am invited to attend Christmas Eve dinner
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at the home of a couple who attended our church,
and they happened to be a white family and we
were we so from my government housing project to their
home out in the suburbs was probably a thirty minute drive,
but it felt like I had driven across country via
And when we arrived at their house, we approached a
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driveway and the house from the end of the drive.
From the end of the driveway to the house, it
felt like it was four city blocks along. It just
felt like the driveway went on for forever. And then
the home looked like a mansion to my eleven year
old self. And then we enter the home. I know
now that it was it's a center center hall colonial home,
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but back then I thought it was a mansion. And
they opened the door and there's this Christmas tree with
all these beautiful porcelain ornaments, and there were the green
and red Christmas decorations on the dining table and throughout
the home, and the mantle was dressed beautifully with greenery
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and ornaments, and it was spectacular to my eleven year
old brain. So I'm fascinated by this, and so Eventually,
as the evening went on, I got curious about mister
Bill and Betty, and I said, so, what does mister
Bill do for a living? He's a lawyer. Oh what
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does Betty do? She stays at home, she cares for
the kids. So my eleven year old brain becomes the
computer and says, wow, so mister Bill earned all of this.
I want to be a lawyer, right, And so at
age eleven, there was something else I learned about myself
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that day, that there are the haves and the have not.
Now remind you, I felt like I was someone who
didn't matter. Now at age eleven, I see that there
are people who have and people who have not, and
I determined I was a have not right, but mister
Bill was a lawyer that I'm going to figure out
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how I am going to become a lawyer. And I set,
at age eleven a trajectory in my life to become
a lawyer. My high school had a law in Public
Service Magnet program, so I was able to participate in
the law program in high school. By age sixteen, I'm
working in a law firm as a court runner. By
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age eighteen, I determined I didn't want to be a lawyer,
because all that experience helped me to know that lawyering
wasn't for me. But what happened, though, is that I
was able to see a goal, to set a goal
and achieve it, and I knew that there was a
world out there, there was so much bigger than me,
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and I wanted to play a part in it. I
wanted to fit in it. And so that experience of
going to Christmas Eve dinner was life changing for me.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Oh that's beautiful story. And that eleven year old girl,
oh so beautiful she is making I can see you
right there, Tanya, you know, making up your mind, and
it seems like you had a beautiful vision, like you know,
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this is where I want to go. I'm going to
go after it. So I can definitely see that desire
and that boning fire within that little girl.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
So tell us.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
As that little girl grew up, she decided not to
be a lawyer, But did she decided to go after that?
Thank you for that?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
So yes, I actually by age eight. By age seventeen,
I realized I didn't enjoy working at the law firm.
But I became very interested in the media, and my
mom found a summer program where I could train for
working with the media. So we did television, radio, newspaper
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training and I got wonderful experience of working with some
of the best and most prominent African American folks in
the media in the city of Pittsburgh where I grew up.
And so I actually started working at the law firm
at age seventeen. I'm sorry. While I was working at
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the law firm at age sixteen, on the weekends, I
got a job at the radio station and by college
studying young, Yes, I started working really young. So I
was having career experience in high school while many my
friends were, you know, in sports. So unfortunately I missed
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the opportunity to play sports, which I really would have loved.
But I did. I was very studious. I excelled at school,
and I was beginning to recognize again because what was
fueling me was IM have not. So I'm now in
my life seeking to disprove this thing that was as
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operating as a self limiting belief. Okay, So I actually
I started working in radio. I went to du Cane
University undergrad and I studied corporate communications and English. I
started in journalism, then I switched to corporate communications. That's
where I got my degree, and I have a dual
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degree in English as well. I worked in radio for
about four years. I climbed my way from being an
audio journalist to being a producer in four years, and
I discovered that I really liked what was happening behind
the scenes of radio. I loved the marketing aspect, understanding
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the consumers, understanding what consumers want. While I was in college,
I secured an internship with the market research company that
did market research for radio. So that set me on
the trajectory to later pursue an MBA. And then after
I got my MBA, I got a job that was
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unlike any other, and I worked in various other industries
after I left the radio company. I worked for Chrysler
in their marketing and communications department. I worked at Toyota,
I worked for an hotel chain, all in marketing. But
after I got secure my MBA, I leveraged this. I
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secured this amazing job for an office furniture company, completely
different than any work I had ever done. I was
actually reporting directly to the senior vice president of sales
and marketing and operations, and I was working in a
processed job, less creative. I was a consultant and it
was amazing. The bottom line here, though, was I discovered
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interior design while I was working at this office furniture company,
and this now solidified for me, this incredible exposure to
something beyond any level of creativity I had known at
this point. And I knew I had a talent for it,
but I didn't know that it was a career. I
didn't know there was training for it. I didn't know
people got paid to do it. I just knew wealthy
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people have folks that do things for them, and that's
what I thought it was. So I left my corporate job.
I learned in the field how to operate and excuse me,
how to sell using designed services to support clients through
the office furniture company, and then I left and started
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my business. So that in two thousand and two, and
I have been an interior designer since. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
What a powerful story. So sometimes it's what happens is
we don't have those hot conversations. If you're up for it,
I want to have some hot conversation today because you
are a beacon of hope and light for so many
out there. So you decided that you were have not,
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but you didn't let that stop you. And so many
times what happens is that people doesn't matter where they're at,
men or women or whatever age they're in, they decide
they put themselves in that sandbox and restrict their playing
area that Okay, you know, I'm a have not or whatever,
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like you know, I'm a victim or i'm I am,
I'm and this is what is the case and I
can't do anything. But you didn't think that. So these
are the internal ceilings that so many of us have
that and doesn't matter where we are at, and like
you know, we do have like all of us have
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that to some former shape.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Right, So tell us that did you ever experience that?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Or and yeah, how did you kind of like handle that?
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yes? Yes, So at the top of my career, I
was named one of the top twenty African American interior
designers in the United States. So I'm at the top
of my career and I received this acknowledgment. I didn't
know what to do with it. Divya, I didn't know
how to be one of the top twenty African American
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interior designers in the United States. Why Because I believe
that didn't matter. So how could I possibly there's an
internal conflict? Now, how could I possibly be hold this honor?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Now?
Speaker 4 (13:57):
I have been an achiever my entire life. Of course
I had to be an achiever because I'm trying to
disprove that I don't matter. But now I got this
acknowledgement that I do, and it caused an internal conflict.
And the bottom line is it caused me to fall.
I fell. I hit my rock bottom because I didn't
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know how to reconcile these two things that made no sense.
I have not I don't matter while I'm being told
I'm one of the best in the country. I hit
rock bottom, and I now had to rebuild my life, Diviya.
And as I began rebuilding my life, I trained with
some of the best spiritual leaders in the world. I
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trained with some of the best emotional intelligent coaches in
the world. I trained with traditional therapist, I had traditional
experience traditional therapy. I trained with some of the best
corporate and executive leadership coaches.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
In the world. So what I'm hearing is that that
there was this, and I want to call it out,
is that, yes, even though you were moving forward in life,
there was an internal conflict like Okay, I'm moving forward
and yet you didn't expect or you could not reconcile
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that acknowledgment from outside. So what's that telling me? And
as I've seen for myself and for my clients and
my experience, that having the internal validation is the primary thing,
like you, and then that's where, like you know, we
create invisible ceiling. So tell us more about that, like
in the invisible ceiling and absolutely and how.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
You did you go?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Like, you know, you invested in yourself, you hit your
up bottom, but you decided not to give in. So
there's so many people who give in. What would be
your message to them? And I'll ask you multiple questions here.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Yeah, so let me make what I was saying makes sense. So,
as I was doing all this training, Divia, I began
to see other people who were very much like me
doing similar training and we're hitting similar ceilings. And the
ceilings are the research I've now done as I have
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evolved become a life coach, transformational life coach, is I
began to research what are the ceilings that we set
for ourselves and how do they form. One of the
first ceilings that we set for ourselves is the one
that we typically set as I did as a child,
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when we're a child, when we're little, and it is
inside the construct of defining how we belong in the
world or how we don't. So for me, my ceiling
was is I don't matter, And I say is. I'll
come back to that in a second. I don't matter.
Someone else might feel I'm unwanted. Those are the people
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who fear being abandoned. Someone else might feel I am powerless.
Someone else might feel I am not seen, I'm not heard,
I'm invisible. Someone else might feel I don't matter. I'm sorry,
I am not enough. I'm not enough. That's not the
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same as good enough, good enough as a statement of deserving.
I'm talking about the belonging ceilings, and I am not enough.
It's just like absolutely not enoughness, Like that's intense and profound.
I'm bad, I'm too much. These are others. So we
have these ceilings of belonging, and those are typically where
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a shame lives. And then we have other ceilings that
are circumstantial, a ceiling that might be I'm not smart enough,
I am to overweight, I am to underweight, I am
I'm not a winner. These are things that are circumstantial.
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They change depending on the circumstance. So these are the
types of ceilings that we set for ourselves, and we
set those really early in life. So now to understand
what happens to us to follow up, what happens to
us when we hit these ceilings is we do something
because we're just trying to survive the world. So we
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set us, we set a patterns. These become our belief system.
But then we also set together create practices to survive
in life, and those practices become the people pleasing the overachieving,
which was mine. I also do people pleasing to the overachieving,
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the people pleasing things like that, and so.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
That that's what happens inside feeling right, right, what you're
saying is that you know you're compensating for those beliefs
that this is where I lack, this is where I do,
So how do I get that external validation? So to
do that, either you're overcompensating or underplaying yourself. Absolutely, Oh,
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some great points there, Tanya, Yes, thanks Stuvia, that's absolutely right.
And so now they have said the ceilings, and you
mentioned when you were at the rock bottom, what was
going through your heart and soul and how did you
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you know, move through it because there's nowhere around it.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
So one of the things that happened as I was
in my rock bottom was I became a student, and
becoming a student ultimately helped me sort of rebuild. So
I say that I I had to experience hitting bottom
twice in my life. First, when I was born, I
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had to rebuild, and then as I when I got
to my top, I had to hit rock bottom again
to rebuild. So I rebuilt my life twice. And that's
how much I had to learn. But as I was learning,
I recognized that what I was learning was too good
to keep to myself. Diviya, it was important that I
share this with others. It was important that I help
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other people go through this, go through a journey in
life to become self aware, first of all, because I
believe that's the first step to being able to shift.
What we have as the ceiling, and the ceiling is
the belief systems that we have. The ceiling is attached
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to the belief systems. It's very rarely that the ceiling
is external. Usually the things that we think are our ceilings.
We don't have the opportunities that we think we have.
We may not get the promotion, we.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
May not.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Find the man of our dreams. You know, we have
these beliefs that are these external experiences, and we define
them as our ceilings, but really the ceiling is what's
happening internally. It's the emotional ceiling based on our belief systems,
and that's the invisible ceiling that I'm referring to today.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Yeah, and that definitely makes sense because what happens is
that those limiting beliefs and invisible ceilings as you are referencing,
keeps you safe because then you're not showing up fully
and then the chances of failure are less because in
your mind you are mitigating the risk. So what happens
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is that, like you know, you talked about a couple
of things that you are doing. So what are some
other common internal barriers you have seen, especially high achievors
doing that? Oh?
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Yes, So other common barriers that I see with high
achievers are perfectionism, over identifying with achievement. So we have
to achieve in order to be successful. We talked about
people pleasing, we talked about approval seeking. We didn't talk
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about that, but that's attached to people pleasing. There are
those who seek approval, They need approval from their boss,
their colleagues, etc. Those are sort of the very common
patterns for high achievers almost anyone, but especially for high achievers.
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They also experience these ceilings and can also get stuck
inside those ceilings. And one thing that I think I'd
like to mention as well, Divia, is that you know,
success for high achievers is often defined by what we fear,
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not what we excel at. So we set our success
based on So an example might be if if if
I because I feel I fear not mattering, then success
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for me is when I achieve something that pseudo pacifies
for me internally that I matter. But we're just trying
to seek to prove and disprove the thing that we
have as our limit. Anyway, we're not breaking it, we're
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just proving it. And what happens is no. And here's
how you can tell when you have an internal ceiling.
When you can transfer your life from one situation to
the next. Let's say it's one job to the next,
and you find you have the same complaints, you find
you have the same experience, and you know that that
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ceiling is an internal ceiling, not an external one.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Ah. So that's how you are defining the difference between
a real external obstacle and an internal obstacle.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
So now people have these invisible ceilings, right, and now
that's what it is doing, especially in the light of
what you said that, Like, you know, it could be
that you go from one job to another job you
are like, Okay, you know what, this situation is not
right for me, so let me move to another job.
And you're having similar complaints. So given this, what happens
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where they're making the same decisions, which, as you said,
like you're not making decisions out of what they fear,
not what they excel at.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
What happens when they're making the same decisions. So I
think the one of the things is to recognize I've
mentioned self awareness, and that is really key to via
the I'm going to offer a couple of tools for
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self awareness because it is the critical first step. So
asking yourself a few very important questions, what is really
happening around me, the thing I'm complaining about, the thing
i'm the I fear most, the thing that I am observing,
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What's really happening? Did the boss say that you're not
going to get the promotion? Really? Or did that interviewer
who interviewed you say that you weren't qualified for that position? Really?
I'm making up scenarios, right, So what's what really happened?
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What did the boss really say? What did the interviewer
really say? So analyzing the situation for what it really is,
that's step number one to self awareness. Step number two
to self awareness is going inward in asking yourself what
are you avoiding? What are you avoiding? Are you avoiding?
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And this is where you might get an inkling. At
least I believe it's possible that this is where you
might get an inkling of what your shame based self
limiting belief is. I don't matter, I'm unwanted, I'm powerless,
because you'll find that that's where what you're avoiding most.
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And then another question, the third question I recommend you
ask is what what am I complaining about? What's my
common complaint here? That typically connects you back to your
shame based self limiting belief as well. So those are.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Those are three powerful questions, Tanya. And as you mentioned that,
you know people may get inkling, but so many times
what happens is that there is that zone of discomfort
when you become self aware, you don't want to peek inside.
People will say, oh, I'm doing doing doom scrolling, watching videos,
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playing games, binge watching like Netflix, something that is one
of the hardest things to do to peek inside. Now,
let's say somebody has had the courage and they have
done that. How can they connect the dots? All right,
you mentioned about what they're avoiding and what is the complaint,
So how can they connect the dot between the complaint
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and what they're avoiding?
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Great question, Thank you. So how do you connect the
dots between what you're complaining about and what you're avoiding?
The first thing is to be willing to accept the
truth and see a lot of life. We live inside
this construct of surviving life, right, viv Yeah, you know,
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we're surviving life for the most part part, and these
limits that we set are mechanisms for surviving life based
on our old belief system, a belief system that served
us back when we were a child, when we made
that decision, My eye don't matter was a way that
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I survived being bullying, bullied and feeling like I didn't
belong in the world when I was a child, but
that I don't matter doesn't suit me now as a
woman who's out in the world trying to cause some
great change in transformation. It doesn't work. And so the
limits that we set are typically based on a life
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we were trying to survive back then. And so to
connect the dot between what am I avoiding and what's
really going on here? Or when am I avoiding and
what am I complaining about? Is to be able to
allow yourself to see the inconsistencies between the life you
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want to have, who you have to become to have
that life, and what you've been holding onto from your past.
That's setting the limit for you today.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
That's beautiful and that's where it comes a time that
when you are accepting, you're creating that space for letting go.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Oh I love that, Diviyah, absolutely, I love that it is.
It is creating a space of letting go. That was beautiful.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Thank you, And we have talked about a lot of things,
and as a person is traveling through the journey, it's
also important to give yourself that grace and be kind
to yourself. And while you're doing that, what else needs
to change internally before they'll experience that real breakthrough.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Thank you for the question. Oh my gosh, so several things.
The invisible ceiling blocks permission. What I mean by that
is it the thing that we want already exist, that
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the promotion, the income, you know, income stream, the platform
we want to own, the success that we want to have,
It already exists there for us. In fact, I believe
personally that it's already there with our name on it.
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We just have to have permission to claim it. And
what I mean by that is give ourselves permission to
be seen, give ourselves permission to take up space, give
our self permission to stop needing the approval of another person,
give ourselves permission to move forward without guilt, to have
success without guilt. And when we give ourselves permission. Now,
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this is not as easy as it sounds. There's a
journey that we have to go through to go from
being the person who didn't matter to giving ourselves permission.
But what I am indicating is that it is possible
to be a person who I don't matter, who now
can give myself permission to go out into the world
and do something that has me matter. My mission personally
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is to help one million women go through a journey
of self healing so we can get on the other
side and own our truth. I have to be someone
who matters to do that, do that as the young right,
I couldn't do it as the woman who believed I
don't matter and hit bottom when I was when I
was named one of the top twenty. It's incongruent. I
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couldn't be successful at it and so right, and so
what the invisible ceiling does? It tells us you know
you can't reach as far as you want to go.
You can't. You have to be realistic because you're not
going to get there, Tanya, Right, you believe you don't matter.
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How can you help a million people? You wait until
you're confident. You need more training because you just don't
have enough experience, right, that's yes.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
I love your big, hairy, audacious goal and I don't
see why not. And we all know it could be
more than one million women, and I wish that for you.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, and for the women
and for the people in your audience, women and men alike.
What happens is the ceiling is defining it, defining what
is possible for us based on the old belief systems
that we hold that do no longer apply today, and
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so it allows us to deny ourselves of what it
is that we really dream of, what it is really
really desire, And so it has us hesitate, it has
a shrink, It has us opt out of really great
opportunities when they show up for us. And so giving
ourselves permission is a way to begin to become the
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person we need to become to do the thing we
need to do.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Absolutely so, we have talked about a lot of things.
What is one thing that our audience can apply immediately, Well,
I would say.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
I'm going to come back to self awareness. I just
think the very first thing we could do to understand
and be able to crack that ceiling is to do
the work of self awareness. What am I avoiding? What
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am I complaining about?
Speaker 3 (34:44):
And what are.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Allow ourselves to be in the space of understanding what
is the story that we have allowed to set the
limit for who we are? Because once you understand that,
you no longer have to be defined by it.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Yeah, and you to your point, there's nothing that defines
us because if you take a look at the sky,
you look at the sun, you know, nothing stops right,
sun's rays will go in in any part of the world.
Of course, when the or turns, we wouldn't have night
and we need our sleep.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
So it's true, Yes, there's no.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Limit, and that's when as you mentioned, you know, everyone
has unlimitted potential and just going and releasing it. So
given that share with Testanya, how can our audience connect
with you if you have any upcoming events that you'd
like to share.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Yes, absolutely, I have a workshop on Thursday this week,
so that's in two days and the workshop is design Now,
this particular workshop is for high achieving women and it's
designed to help high achieving women have a breakthrough and
their invisible ceiling as it relates to conquering or living
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life by what I call natural authority, So living life
wholly from a place of our true authority based on
our purpose, our mission, and who we have to be
in order to satisfy that. So I would love to
invite anyone from your audience who's interested in just having
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a breakthrough there. And it's no better time than now,
as we're thinking about the transformations that many of us
choose to take on when a new year starts. So
this is a great opportunity to consider a transformation in
our own lives so we can be to have our
best in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
And where can they connect with you?
Speaker 4 (37:02):
Absolutely? I recommend you go to any of my social
media The handle is I am Tanya Comer LinkedIn Instagram, Facebook,
and you can find information about the workshops there.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Okay, fantastic, Any last words, any last parts you'd like
to share?
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Yes, absolutely, Diva, for you, for your audience. I just
would like to just leave these three things. There's nothing wrong,
you know. Having a ceiling isn't anything wrong. It's an opportunity.
It's an opportunity now to embrace another version of you,
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a version of you, a two point zero version of you,
or in my case, it would be a three point
oh because I have the fall twice. The ceiling that's there, Diva,
it's not permanent, That's the second thing I want to say.
And you already have what you need. It's already out
there with your name on it. That job opportunity, that promotion,
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that raise, that entrepreneurial endeavor, it's already out there for
you to have. The ceiling is only temporary, and you
can break through it to get to the place you
want to.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Be to live that dream that you have, and thank
you for that and definitely you can connect with it. Tanya,
and thank you for being part of our show, because
without you, the show would not be possible. Thank you, Tanya,
Thank you one for making the show technically possible. And
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we'll see you next week. Until then, be well and
take care.
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