October 6, 2025 • 41 mins
Physicist and author Randy Lyman shares how understanding emotions, energy, and intention can transform your life. Drawing from science and spirituality, he explains how emotional healing and conscious action align with the Law of Attraction to shape your reality—proving that you’re not just a product of your past, but a co-creator of your future.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
At the end of the day, it's not about what
you have or even what you've accomplished. It's about what
you've done with those accomplishments. It's about who you've lifted up,
who you've made better. It's about what you've given back.
Denzel Washington, Welcome to Inspire Vision. Our sole purpose is
to elevate the lives of others and to inspire you
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to do the same.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Randy, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Hello, Doug, good to be here with you.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Hey, I'm excited it's this is going to be an
interesting conversation. You know, you've written a book that I
find has such an important element and I'd like for
you to share with the audience number one of the
name of the book, but even going back further than that,
you know you've done a lot of things, tell a
little bit about your background, and then what was that
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moment where you decided to write that book, what ultimately
inspired that?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Well, my background, I'm a I'm educated as a physicist
and a mechanical engineer with multiple patents I've had. Let's
go back to nineteen eighty nine. I had multiple businesses,
multiple multimillion dollar businesses. I was successful, but I wasn't
completely happy and fulfilled. And about that time, nineteen eighty nine,
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many thirty five years ago, I met a woman I
spent three years with who opened my eyes to the
spiritual emotional side of life. Thirty plus years later, I
decided to write a book.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
After a whole I'm skipping a lot here, after a
a whole lot of lessons and a whole lot of
insights and experiences, I wrote a book, The Third Element,
which is all about how anybody here on a human
path can understand the rules of the game of life
better and can find ways to improve their life by
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making some small changes and by changing their approach to
their thoughts, their actions and their emotions.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
And you do get into the law of attraction, don't
you a bit?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Well, my belief as a physicist, understanding resonance, understanding energy
down to a sub nuclear level, and Heisenberg's uncertainty principle.
It says that energy does not become matter until it's observed,
and the law of attraction co creates our reality with us.
Every moment of every day, we walk into a new possibility,
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and we do that through the law of attraction. God
has no rules for us except when we respond from
a place of love and caring. We find an answer
a lot faster, a lasting answer, okay, and a lot
of attractions. So there's no expectation, there's no judgment.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
He says.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You go think whatever you want and I'll reflect it
back to you. You take what actions you want with
your body and the world around you, and I'll reflect
it back to you. And whatever emotions you have that
you're feeling now or are left over you didn't feel
completely in the past, I will reflect all this back
to you. And when you understand the rules, then we
can we can guide our thoughts, guide our actions, and
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work through our old emotional ones and create an amazing life.
And that's what I've experienced, and that's why I wrote
the book. Is I want other people to be able
to have a wonderful life too well.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
And you know, it's interesting you bring up to I
think really important points. You know. I interviewed someone just
yesterday and we were talking about success, and I said,
all right, I want a definition of success. And the
whole story was extremely financially successful, all right, the cars,
the house, about whatever, but not happy. And you're kind
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of explaining the same thing here. You have multimillion dollar companies,
you're extremely quote successful, and yet you're not happy. And
you know, we get into the law of attraction. We
get back to the original movie The Secret, and and
I thought before, you know, before we got on, I thought,
you know what, I years ago, I had interviewed someone
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who I can't even remember apologize, that talked about the
fact that they discovered after being involved in the movie
this secret, that there were some other elements that had
been missing. And so I actually went on chat GPT
this morning and I said, Okay, what are some of
the elements that are missing that the members of that
movie have talked about since? And I've got an incredible
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list of things that have to be added for someone,
you know, because I think there's so many people that
just sit and have their board up there, and you
know this is there what they want to manifest, and
yet they don't experience it. And I think you hit
on one of the keys because it didn't mention exactly
what you're talking about is the emotional part of that.
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And so I'd love for you to kind of talk
about you know, first of all, define spirituality for the audience,
because everybody has different different definitions, so let's make sure
we're at the correct groundwork care.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
So to me, spirituality means embracing the part of our
human experience that is of spirit. So when we say
we are human beings, human to me being our human body,
our human mind, and beings being that undefinable beingness that
is a spark of divine consciousness of a part of
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our soul, is a part of God of all that
is at the deepest level, and that is a part
of our experience here and for me, being the path
of spirituality is seeking out to experience more of that higher,
more pure part of us that's actually a part of God,
the Creator. And to be a human being is a
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balance between the human separateness from all it is and
the beingness of the embodiment of the love of all
that is and our and the power of God and
our soul that can come through us and be part
of our human experience.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Okay, excellent, excellent. So here's my question. You know you're
talking about emotions. I'd like for you to share it,
expand a little bit about why emotions are so important,
and then we'll even get a little bit deeper on that.
But let's talk about emotions because I know that that
is something that you really focus on your book.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
So I'm very big believer in our thoughts and our
actions as law of attraction. But to me, it's like
a three legged stool. I can sit on a three
legged stool and I'm fine, but if I take one
of the legs away, I'm going to tip over. It's
just not going to work. So everything in the universe
fits into one of three categories our thoughts, our physical world,
or our emotion. And so when I was twenty eight
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years old and I was looking for success, I was
educating myself and I was working hard because I only
knew of two of the categories or elements of the
human experience. Once I stumbled across an experience, that's where
I healed an emotional wound, and I saw the material
world around me change clearly, and I made the connection.
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And then I experimented more with Okay, here's an outside irritation,
and I'm going to work with the emotion, and I
saw the connection between emotional healing and the physical world changing.
Then I made the correlation, and I thought through it
as a scientist would, and I come down. I came
back to the law of attraction and sympathetic vibration, which
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means things that vibrate similarly are attracted to each other.
So our thoughts have energy, our physical body and our
actions have energy, and our emotions have energy, and that
vibrational energy through harmonics interacts with the law of attraction,
and the law of attraction then creates every moment of
our day for us out of infinite possibilities.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Well, and you know, I smile and kind of give
a little bit because I think about how years ago,
you know, this whole concept of energy and frequency was
kind of the woo woooo. And yet now here I'm
talking to you, a highly educated scientist. You know, you've
got Joe Despenza who really focuses on meditation, if you're
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aware of that. But he's he's got scientists behind him
and doctors behind him that are doing major research and
validating what he talks about. And so it's fascinating to
me that all of a sudden, something that we thought
was kind of out there, now who has become a
scientific valid point of that energy and how we put
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that out there? You know. One of the questions that
I have for you, though, and we'll get into this
even more, is I remember in my dental practice, okay,
I used to focus a small amount on people who
had chronic pain, head neck pain, and of course, at
that point in time, the dental media called TMJ, you know,
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or mandibular joint syndrome. And so someone would come into
me and say, hey, you know, doctor, I've got two
I've got TMJ. And I wrote, wait a minute, no,
you have two. You've got one on the left side,
you've got one on the right side. So tell me
what's your symptoms. And once they told me the symptoms,
I would discover that most of the time it really
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didn't have anything to do with that joint. It had
everything to do with the with the nerves, It had
everything to do with the muscular relationship and that type
of thing. So when we talk about emotions and you
bring up the point, and I think it's very valid
that emotions create that energy that create the law of attraction.
The challenge is is what's below those emotions, because all
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of a sudden I look at events and you know,
I see that. In fact, it just happened to me
just the other day. Is you know, here's an event.
There's no emotion tied to an event, but I applied,
based on my perception, an emotion to that event, and
once I did that, it created all sorts of interesting
experiences for me. So let's talk about a little bit
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about that. What are your thoughts about that as far
as what is the basis of those emotions.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
So it is, in my opinion and from my experience,
emotions are what you said, an event happens, our mind
makes up a story about it, and that's done at
a subconscious first brain level as well as in our
conscious brain. So emotions are valid in the moment as
part of our guidance. Now, some people say, oh, emotions
are your guidance system. I want to clarify that an
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emotion we feel in the moment we first feel it
is a valid guidance towards something good or away from
something bad. So we have the thought, we have the
observation or experience, we have the thought, we make up
a story, we have the emotional experience that then is
designed to drive us towards that thing or drive us
away from that thing. This is from before our prefrontal
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cortex's evolved. And so I have this experience of say,
a bad experience, and I'm going to go away from
this problem, and so that energy is designed to drive
my body to take action. Well, now my brain gets
involved and slows me down, and I'm looking around or
people going to judge me for my actions? Is this
the best thing to do? And the problem is the
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conscious thinking brain gets in the way of letting the
emotion come through and be experienced and released. So if
I feel twenty say I feel eighty percent of the emotion,
but twenty percent of that energy that's designed to move
me towards her way get stuck in my being, in
my body and my energy field whatever way. I can't
describe that, but I know if my experienced energy is there,
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that energy wants to be released. It doesn't want to
stay within me, and that energy that last twenty percent
of that emotional guidance message that's stuck in me is
still vibrating. It's like storing gasoline in a metal can.
If I start gasoline in a metal can for twenty years,
I could pour it out and burn it. But I
only have to burn it once and then it's gone.
So emotions are bigger than time and space the mind.
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Let me slow down here to put it all together.
Our mind is our thinking mind is never in the
present moment. It's thinking of the past, it's thinking of
the future. It's a stream of thought, and like music,
it has to be played out over time. We can
observe in a moment, but that's different than our thinking brain.
So our thinking brain is never in the present moment. Now,
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our body only exists in the now, and emotions are
bigger than time in space. They know no time, but
they have to be experienced through our physical body. So
we store this emotion. It's in our energy field. It
doesn't expire, it doesn't go away, and it continues to
attract to us until we find a way to get
a bodily feeling sensation to release it.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Well, and we talk about emotional intelligence, and we'll get
into that a little bit, I hope, but again I'm
going to challenge it on something and I may not
be making myself clear. Okay, So I want to really
get into this because I look at emotions being a
result of an event. So, for instance, you know, something
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happens and that triggers any emotion, and the reason that
triggers a particular emotion may have to do with some
imprint from my childhood that or in my life that
all of a sudden, And that's why I say, I
just had that happen the other day, an event occurred
and all of a sudden, boom, there I am. I'm
not happy, and I'm looking at that and going okay, wait, wait, wait,
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wait a minute, what is the cause of this? And
I get back to an element in my past experiences
where that remembrance of that triggered that emotion. And so
that's what I'm trying to really have this discussion on
in your experience on that, because as we look to
help people, we see those emotions coming up. But to me,
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the emotional intelligence is when you can see those emotions
come up and go, Okay, why that emotion, whether it's
good or whether it's bad.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Well, I'm going to disagree with you a little bit here, Okay, what.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
I'm going to say.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
What I'm going to say is, yes, we want to
get it, we want to clear it. But my experience
says I don't need to understand it completely to clear it,
but I do need to feel it completely to release it.
So I don't always get back clear to what it
was I was thinking or feeling and what brought up
that emotion for me. Sometimes I do, and that's fantastic.
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But even if I can't understand it with my brain,
as long as I can feel the feeling that's telling
me it wants to come through my body and be released.
And for me, and I'll say this even as a man,
a lot of times it's tears, even it a little tear,
a little sadness, some frustration, whatever that is. If I
can go for a walk, if I can hit a
punching bag, sing in the forest, ride my dirt bike,
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and let that energy go, then my world changes. Not
only do I feel better, but the irritation outside irritation.
It's a gift, I said, gift to remind us of
what we have to let go. Then when we can
embrace that gift, feel the feeling and release it. We
don't need to understand it. Understanding can help. I agree
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with you on that part, but regardless, let that energy
go and then we don't need the gift of irritation.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Okay. So basically what you're saying is when that emotion
comes up, if we're willing to acknowledge it and to
accept it that heay, here's an emotion that, then let
it go. Particularly if that's the hard part. Yeah, letting
it go.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Letting it go is a hard part because our ego,
that part of us that's human that's here to protect
us from picking up a piece of burning wood out
of the campfires, also protects us from the pain of
our past emotions. And that's the challenge with our ego
is it wants the problem. It wants to be a victim.
Our ego wants to be important, that's part of the
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human experience. And yet at the same time, avoiding that
emotional pain that we can feel and heal and release
causes more problems for us as a personality and an ego.
And so it's a contradiction. But as a reason I
didn't jump in and heal my emotions That's why I
avoided my emotions. They hurt. I didn't want to go there.
I had pain, I had shame, I had disappointment. And
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when eventually I was able to release more and more,
then my world improved in so many ways. And my
business in nineteen eighty nine was amazing. But after I
started to apply spiritual principles to my business, then it
grew thirty and forty times to what it was when
I was already successful. But that pain, we don't want
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to feel about it. It's not a fun thing to do.
The results are amazing, but the process is not fun.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Well, as you talk about business and what I've experienced,
and I shure you you have too, is you know
whatever principles of that you have experienced to improve your business.
We talked about the business of life, and it's so
interesting that principles that help us to be truly successful
in a meaningful way in business or the very same
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prince that help us to be successful in the business
of life and what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I would agree with that, And if I can tangent
for a moment, would helped me be successful in business
is to be centered enough and calm enough and confident
enough that I was capable, not from an egle point
of view, but to understand as a leader, I'm capable
of leading the group to success, and I'm capable of
helping the members of my group find individual success. Then
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when I realized my power as a leader did not
come from my title, it came from the success of
my group, then I could be vulnerable, meaning I could
admit when I made mistakes, I could help have other
people help me make decisions. I could take responsibility for
the mistakes of the group, even if it wasn't my fault,
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and create a safe place for them. I could share
all the success and give credit for all the success
to them. So as a leader, my position, my ego
at least, was as secondary. These people want to do
their best, they want to succeed, and when they know
I was going to say when they feel but when
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they really know that I'm there to help them succeed
and I'm there to serve them as a leader. I'm
not here to be served. I'm here to serve. Then
they're like, oh, Randy's on my side, He's going to
take care of me. I'm on board. Let's make this
happen and when you get a group of two or
three or one hundred or thousand people, thousands pretty tough
to accomplish that with. When you do it with one
hundred people, and now they know Randy's here to take
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care of me and we're going to win this together,
then even though I'm vulnerable, I'm more respected and I'm
more appreciated, and they feel appreciated and they produce and
we have a winning team. And that's how I was
able to produce the success in business. It wasn't through me,
it was through my team wanting to succeed and knowing
they could show up as themselves without having to put
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on a facade.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Well, let's talk about ego. You know, Kar totally wrote
a number of books on about ego and and what
I find when we talk about emotional intelligence, how much
how much of being able to acknowledge and literally be
aware of our ego and recognize that there's a very
important aspect of our ego a good one, but also
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it can take us down a path that's not very healthy.
And how do you quite the emotional intelligence of an
individual with how they're able to be aware of and
acknowledge that ego and recognize when it's going in a
direction of all I have to have this, I have
to have that. This is making me important. Now I
feel important, rather than recognizing that it's just a healthy
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thing to understand spiritually of who you are.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I think a person's words give them away a lot
when they talk about me or I rather than we,
when they use the word you accept in a place
of praise. I stopped using the word you when I
talk to somebody, except when I'm praising thirty years ago,
because people get defensive. Say you, and if we're talking
about success, I need to say we. And that's a
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good indicator. It's not fool proof, but that's a good
indicator of is the leader looking to be important or
is the leader looking to be of service to their
group and humanity. And the only way that I can
really find fulfillment is to connect with the people that
I lead. Otherwise there's a separation. And we're not here
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on this planet to be separate from each other. Now,
there's some people I want to be separate from. There's
some toxic people. I want to set some boundaries with
some certain people. But if I'm working with the right
group of people, whether it's in my neighborhood, whether it's
at work, then I want to connect with them. I
want them to feel acknowledged by me. I want them
to feel they're contributing to the cause, and I want
them to feel they belong to the group like they
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would belong to a family. And when I can accomplish
those three things, the acknowledgment, the sense of contribution, and
sense of belonging, they show up completely differently. And it's
a deeper experience for all of us. Now that's not
just about a deep experience. Yeah, that's wonderful, and that's
to me, that's really freaking important. But at the same time,
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that deeper experience that I had with the people I
worked with that created financial success. And we can have
personal relationships and deep connections with the people we work
with and still be respected and achieve even greater financial success.
And that's kind of ironic, but that's what I find
to be the truth. And leaders are afraid of the
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same thing I was afraid of. When we become vulnerable,
we make we show up compassionate and caring, then people
might not respect us. That was my fear.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Okay, So I want to move away from business. I
want to get to personal Okay, because you keep talking
about business and financial success, Let's talk about quote leaders,
leaders of our own life, maybe as parents, leaders of
our family, and as you mentioned, in a community, as
we're as we're doing that because let's look at what
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going on right now when we talk about emotions, the
look at what's happening in the US right now. I
mean the anger, the frustration, all of that is just
destroying the healthiness of the country to such a large degree.
But let's take that down to the personal level. As
a parent, how do I, as a parent lead my
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children and be with them to help them to grow
up in a more productive, emotionally healthy way. And as
I'm in a group of people, friends, neighborhood, and so forth,
what do we do in order to do that? How
do we help people to really become a leader within
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their own life? Forget the business, because not everybody owns
a business, you know everyone. A lot of people are
just working for someone else, which is good.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
And I apologize for getting off track, but I understand
your question.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Yeah, okay, extreme and.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I talk about this Ankins in chapter six of the
book Extreme Self Responsibility, Meaning my reality is created for
me in response to who I am, and therefore I
have zero reason to blame anybody. And so as soon
as we find ourselves blaming our circumstances, whether our neighbor,
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somebody we work with, our spouse, as soon as we
start to blame and want to change something outside of ourselves,
that is an indicator that we're off track.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
And as an indicator that the energy, as you talked
about at the beginning, the energy that we're putting out
there is attracting the energy back. So our life experiences
are basically a result to a large degree of who
we are. You know, I always come up with the
saying when we talk about spirituality, you know, did did
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he become who? Did he do what he did in
order to become or did he do what he did
because he was? And I think that's so important for
people to understand that, you know, what our experiences in
life to a large degree. Obviously, once in a while,
some things happen that are totally out of our control,
and I don't believe that we attracted that. But for
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the most part, our life experience as a result of
who we are and the energy that we put out,
and that's kind of what you were talking about.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Right, Yes, and so we are the only one who
can truly affect our life. Yes, things happen to us
from the outside, but if we didn't cause that to happen,
and it appears to be random, our response does not
have to be random. Our response is up to us.
So we have the ability to respond. Responsibility means the
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ability to respond. So I have the ability to choose
what I'm going to think when something happens to me,
what I'm going to do in response, and how I'm
going to feel or how I'm going to process through
the emotions that are reactivated. And when I become aware,
and this has took me a long time to get to,
when I became aware that everything in my life is
for my growth and is a gift for growth and
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a grift for learning, then when something happens to me,
I can say, wait a minute, don't get angry, don't
be upset, don't blame. How do I recognize the gift
in this situation. So when parents blame, their children learn
to blame and feel like they don't have any power
over the situation. But when parents can say, Okay, there's
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a gift here, and I'm going to make the best
of this. Then their children will learn to make the
best of every situation that comes along, even if it's ugly.
Even the ugly things that happen to us are an
opportunity for learning. And when we get to that point
of faith, a tipping point where if we've done it
so many times that we know, okay, I can look
at this from a place of of optimism and I
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can say there's a good lesson in here. And we
do that enough times, it becomes natural. And when we
look for the positive lesson, I find it every time.
I don't always like or I find it, but I
find the positive lesson every time.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
When I take that approach, well, and I think that's showing.
And I appreciate you saying that, because I think for
people to understand that, you know, what life happens. But
as you say, it's the response that we have control over,
you know. And getting back to something we were talking
about a little bit earlier, when people find themselves in
a sense of they're just constantly angry. I noticed that
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a lot on Facebook. You know, a number of people
that I've known for years, all of a sudden, Wow,
every post that they make has an element of anger,
an element of frustration. And you know, as you look
at and I don't know how much you get into
the emotional scales, but you know, as I look at
the Hicks Emotional Guidance Scale, which I love, and looking
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at the fact that anger, irritation, frustration is below that
healthy line, how do people in your experience overcome that?
And Number one, I guess, be aware of the fact that, wow,
I'm constantly angry and acknowledge that that. Secondarily, how do
they ultimately start to move up that spiral to where
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at lace there's contentment and maybe even hopefulness and then
ultimately joy and freedom. Where are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Well, I think the first place to start is understanding.
We understand that our reality is created by us and
our responses to everything around us. Then it also helps
to realize that when we're four years old and we
complain and cry and make and blame, somebody takes care
of us. And maybe they still do when we're fifteen,
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and maybe they still do when we're twenty five. But
when we become a grown adult, if we hang onto
those behaviors we learn when we were younger, they don't help.
So first we have to be aware of our own behavior.
We have to be aware that the law of attraction
is here to serve us, not in a bad way,
just as simple reflection. So the understanding of our bad
behavior and our wrongful approach, incorrect approach, un effective approach.
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I don't want to use words that are judgmental, but
I want to be discerning and say when I blame
and I get angry, it's not going to help. And
then if I understand, Okay, yeah, it feels good to
blame in the moment, but that's not moving my life forward,
and I understand that the law of attraction is here
to respond to my good thoughts and my good actions
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and respond to my gratitude, and gratitude is a great,
great cheat code, and respond to those more positive emotions.
And then my mind says I've had enough of the
negative means this isn't working. I want to try something different.
A person has to come to that place where they
make a choice and they make a decision to try
a different approach. And if they never come to that decision,
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they're going to live their life in misery. And God's patient.
God will give them a thousand or ten thousand lifetimes
with that to figure it out. But the moment we
say this isn't working and I'm going to try something different,
and if they read the book, I outline it in
a way that makes good sense. It gives people some
light at the end of the tunnel to be willing
to take a different approach. And so again it's awareness
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of our bad behavior and awareness and education about how
the law of attraction really works well.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
And you mentioned gratitude, and I think that's so essential.
But I think for a lot of people that can
be really difficult to express gratitude when they're experiencing something
that is not necessarily on the surface, something you can
be grateful for. So, as you have written in your book,
how do people begin to develop a sense of gratitude
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even in those situations where it's kind of difficult to
figure that out.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
That's a place where we kind of have to fake
it till we make it. But in gratitude, if we're
intending to find something positive, and we can start out going, Okay,
I got I get I live in a shitty neighborhood.
At least they got a house and the weather it's raining,
but at least I'm not flooded, and my hot water
heater is not working, but at least I have water.
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Those are negatives that are kind of in versus a
little bit positive. If we can start to tiptoe baby
step towards the positive, we're setting the intention. And even
if we do a bad job of being grateful, we're
setting the intention, and the blob attraction will get behind
our intention. And even if we're not wholeheartedly finding things
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to be grateful for, we're stepping into new territory, and
law of attraction is patiently waiting for us to look
for more positive things, and we find we go looking
for And even if I'm cynical when I start down
that path, I started down the path, and I set
the intention to find things to be grateful for, and
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my experience says, it just takes one step at a
time in the right direction, even if I'm not doing
it wholeheartedly, and the entire universe will get behind me
and support me on my intent to find something to
be grateful for. And the power of gratitude credibly.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Strong well, and it's fascinating. As I mentioned, as I
did a little research, the first thing that comes up
and then you just talked about it is a mind action,
so we have that attraction, but then we put in
that alight action, and I think that that's so important.
And the other thing, I don't know how much you
know with your experience and background scientifically that as we
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and I like how you talk about it, even as
we try hard to show positive gratitude, and sometimes that
can be very difficult. But as we continue to do that,
what happens if you're aware of it, what happens to
the neurological pathways in our brain to the point that
all of a sudden, everything that occurs, the first thing
that comes up is what can I be grateful for?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Our pathways are wired to repeat what rewards us now
Ego like Acertolli says, the pain body wants to complain
and it gets the insert reward of feeling important. But
if we find a place we can feel gratitude, something
we can feel gratitude about the law of attraction, the
universe will bring us something else to feel grateful for
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that will amplify over time. And then when we're rewarded
by positive thoughts and positive actions and by feeling some
gratitude and we see a positive response in our life,
and our brain will automatic rewire and say positive out
come came from this positive input. It automatically makes those
connections for us, whether we're aware of it or not.
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But we just have to start down that path of
taking action towards being optimistic and towards seeing the good
and things.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
It starts with intent and I think even affirmations. As
we continue to do that in a positive way, we
start to create new neurological pathways that ultimately change that
law of attraction, as you say, because it changes the
energy within us. You know, when I went on to
your LinkedIn site, I found a quote that I just
loved it. I want to read it here for the
audience and then have you come in on it. You say,
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the energy you carry speaks louder than your mindset ever
will what was behind that? And and what are you
trying to say there?
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Well, okay, so speed of light is really fast. It
will go around the Earth seven times in one second,
pretty fast, but it still takes eight minutes to reach
some sun. To us, emotions are bigger than time and space.
They're not bound by time and space. So when we
feel something, the entire all that is, this universe and
every universe out there, some level gets that message instantly
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the moment we feel something through kind of interpretation of
string theory, where everything's just a vibration at the smallest
level there is. There are no speed limitations to that,
and so the emotions that we carry good, bad, or
otherwise we're feeling in the moment, the energy of that
is transmitted everywhere all the time. So if I walk
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into a room, now it's appropriate for people to interact
with me at an energetic level because they want to
be aware of who I am. I'm closer to them,
they're going to be talking to me or avoiding me,
or whatever that might be. And so everybody feels everything
at some level. But when you and I are in
the same room, suddenly we're feeling each other more. And
we look and look as Doug making eye contact or
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Rainy making eye contact, is he's smiling as he look grouchy,
And I'm looking with my mind and my eyes on
my mind to assess the situation. But our aura, our
energy field, walked into that room before our physical body did.
And it's the same way with the law of attraction,
the law of attraction feels our energy field and our
emotions before we even take action on those emotions. And
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so it's a it's like a radio signal that goes
out ahead of us, and it's a radio signal that's
faster than the speed of light. Did that answer your question?
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Yeah, I think so. And I like the fact that
you talk about when we walk into a room, you know,
we put out an energy that can be so positive
or in many respects negative, and people pick up on
it immediately. And you know, as you think about that,
and as we talk about the law of attraction, as
we talk about creating within ourselves that positive synchronicity, that
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positive element and energy, what happens if we continually surround
ourselves with people or media that is always negative. What
happens to us?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
It drags us down. It's like taking a beautiful tuning fork,
a beautiful instrument and throwing a wet towel over. It
stops vibrating at a beautiful harmony, harmonic, it stops vibrating
at the frequency we intend. So those negative thoughts that
we have, negative stories we observe, and negative people we
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interact with, that dampens the beauty within us that wants
to shine through.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
So what do we do? What do we do to
avoid that so that we can literally create within our
mind and create within our energy that positive aspect to
really experience that sense of joy and freedom and love.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
We set the attention. We learn to say no to
the people, the things that drag us down or can
drag us down. We become aware of our own negative
emotions we're hanging on to through journaling or whatever that
might be, and work through breathwork, and so we remove
ourselves from the negative, and then we outside of ourselves.
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We remove ourselves from the negative of the outside world.
Then we become aware of the negative emotional energy within us,
not because we're going to amplify it, but because we're
going to identify it, find a modality to work through it,
like breathing or tapping or some exercise to work through
it and release it. And when we release that negative
energy within us, love fills that space immediately. Then it
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makes it easier to attract to us good news. It
makes it easier to attract to us happier, more positive people.
So we say no to the outside negativity, We embrace
and release the inside negativity and law of attraction will
guide us to more positive things without us even having
to try so.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
In your book, do you get into meditations, You get
it at tapping. You get into breathing as a particular
element of how to start to eliminate those negative emotions.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yes, I have fourteen different exercises in chapter seven, and
I also share on my website Randy Lyman dot com
and how to I share some of the practitioners I
work with today still, whether it be for a massage
or hypnotherapy or chiropractic, whatever it might be to allow
energy to come through my body, and there are several modalities.
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It's different for everybody. I cannot sit still and meditate.
I can ride my dirt bike at fifty miles.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
An hour in the rough desert.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
And I'm calm and I'm clear and beautiful information comes
to me. But I can't sit still. Everyone is different.
So I've shared a lot of different things that work
for me and work for my friends, and I just
tell people find what will help your mind stay occupied
while the deeper peace can find a way through.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Yeah. I love that, and for me it's walking meditation.
I'd like you to sit there for thirty minutes to
forty five minutes. Can't do it. But I could walk
for three miles for an hour, and with meditative music
in there, I can literally experience an amazing meditation. And
so I love what you talked about there that you know.
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But and again you talk about different tools, and I
really appreciate that you've put that in there because I
think for people, as you know, one tool work for
one person that won't work for another person. And for
you to have that in your book of tools of
how they can literally start to achieve that, I think
is really important and essential. So I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Well, thank you. We're all different. So I one of
two of the things I included. One is dance. I
can't dance. I have no rhythm. Of some people they
really can express through dance and singing. I can't sing
that some people to sing it just helps them connect.
And So a friend of mine told me thirty years ago,
if we can find God or higher experience through beer
and pizza, great, God doesn't care. We shouldn't care. As
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long as we can find a way to find more
peace and find more centeredness. Do what works.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Yeah, that's so true. Well, as we as we come
to a close. What would be that message that you
really ultimately want the audience to understand.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Every one of us is a spark, a divine source.
Every one of us is beautiful inside. Every one of
us deserves an amazingly beautiful, successful, healthy life that comes
in a lot of different shades. But anybody who's starting
to visualize, can it be better for me? My answer
is yes, it can find a way to love yourself,
work through your emotional blocks with the intent of life
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getting better, and the universe will jump in and support
you and help you move in that direction. You're worth it,
You're deserving your love.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Great. Great, So just we've talked about it, but let's
kind of reference it one more time here and near
the end. How do people find you? And how do
people find your book?
Speaker 2 (39:57):
So they find my book the third element through typical
online booksellers. I can't say names because that doesn't always
go over well depending on the platforms you're on. But
to my website Randy Lyman dot com, they can find
links as to where to buy the book. They can
find links to free offers that I have free workbooks
that I offer tapping meditations. So on my website Randyliman
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dot com. Again, I offer a lot of things that
are free. This is not about making money for me.
This is about helping people find their power, finding ways
to improve their life and for the world becoming a
better place well.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
And it goes to the whole point of this podcast
is making a difference in other people's lives. And you know,
when if we can all get to the point where
you are, as you said, where you know, I'm not
here to make money. I'm here to make a difference
in someone's life. I think that becomes so essential. And
if we could learn to pay that forward and always
do that, I think that would make such a change
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in the world. Don't you absolutely I agree hundred percent time. Yeah. Hey,
well listen, Randy, thank you so much. This has been great.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Here, welcome, it's been fun being on your questions. Fantastic.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
I love your work, appreciate it, and folks, thanks for listening.
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Speaker 4 (00:52):
Randy, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Hello, Doug, good to be here with you.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Hey, I'm excited it's this is going to be an
interesting conversation. You know, you've written a book that I
find has such an important element and I'd like for
you to share with the audience number one of the
name of the book, but even going back further than that,
you know you've done a lot of things, tell a
little bit about your background, and then what was that
(01:16):
moment where you decided to write that book, what ultimately
inspired that?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Well, my background, I'm a I'm educated as a physicist
and a mechanical engineer with multiple patents I've had. Let's
go back to nineteen eighty nine. I had multiple businesses,
multiple multimillion dollar businesses. I was successful, but I wasn't
completely happy and fulfilled. And about that time, nineteen eighty nine,
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many thirty five years ago, I met a woman I
spent three years with who opened my eyes to the
spiritual emotional side of life. Thirty plus years later, I
decided to write a book.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
After a whole I'm skipping a lot here, after a
a whole lot of lessons and a whole lot of
insights and experiences, I wrote a book, The Third Element,
which is all about how anybody here on a human
path can understand the rules of the game of life
better and can find ways to improve their life by
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making some small changes and by changing their approach to
their thoughts, their actions and their emotions.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
And you do get into the law of attraction, don't
you a bit?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Well, my belief as a physicist, understanding resonance, understanding energy
down to a sub nuclear level, and Heisenberg's uncertainty principle.
It says that energy does not become matter until it's observed,
and the law of attraction co creates our reality with us.
Every moment of every day, we walk into a new possibility,
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and we do that through the law of attraction. God
has no rules for us except when we respond from
a place of love and caring. We find an answer
a lot faster, a lasting answer, okay, and a lot
of attractions. So there's no expectation, there's no judgment.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
He says.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You go think whatever you want and I'll reflect it
back to you. You take what actions you want with
your body and the world around you, and I'll reflect
it back to you. And whatever emotions you have that
you're feeling now or are left over you didn't feel
completely in the past, I will reflect all this back
to you. And when you understand the rules, then we
can we can guide our thoughts, guide our actions, and
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work through our old emotional ones and create an amazing life.
And that's what I've experienced, and that's why I wrote
the book. Is I want other people to be able
to have a wonderful life too well.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
And you know, it's interesting you bring up to I
think really important points. You know. I interviewed someone just
yesterday and we were talking about success, and I said,
all right, I want a definition of success. And the
whole story was extremely financially successful, all right, the cars,
the house, about whatever, but not happy. And you're kind
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of explaining the same thing here. You have multimillion dollar companies,
you're extremely quote successful, and yet you're not happy. And
you know, we get into the law of attraction. We
get back to the original movie The Secret, and and
I thought before, you know, before we got on, I thought,
you know what, I years ago, I had interviewed someone
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who I can't even remember apologize, that talked about the
fact that they discovered after being involved in the movie
this secret, that there were some other elements that had
been missing. And so I actually went on chat GPT
this morning and I said, Okay, what are some of
the elements that are missing that the members of that
movie have talked about since? And I've got an incredible
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list of things that have to be added for someone,
you know, because I think there's so many people that
just sit and have their board up there, and you
know this is there what they want to manifest, and
yet they don't experience it. And I think you hit
on one of the keys because it didn't mention exactly
what you're talking about is the emotional part of that.
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And so I'd love for you to kind of talk
about you know, first of all, define spirituality for the audience,
because everybody has different different definitions, so let's make sure
we're at the correct groundwork care.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
So to me, spirituality means embracing the part of our
human experience that is of spirit. So when we say
we are human beings, human to me being our human body,
our human mind, and beings being that undefinable beingness that
is a spark of divine consciousness of a part of
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our soul, is a part of God of all that
is at the deepest level, and that is a part
of our experience here and for me, being the path
of spirituality is seeking out to experience more of that higher,
more pure part of us that's actually a part of God,
the Creator. And to be a human being is a
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balance between the human separateness from all it is and
the beingness of the embodiment of the love of all
that is and our and the power of God and
our soul that can come through us and be part
of our human experience.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Okay, excellent, excellent. So here's my question. You know you're
talking about emotions. I'd like for you to share it,
expand a little bit about why emotions are so important,
and then we'll even get a little bit deeper on that.
But let's talk about emotions because I know that that
is something that you really focus on your book.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
So I'm very big believer in our thoughts and our
actions as law of attraction. But to me, it's like
a three legged stool. I can sit on a three
legged stool and I'm fine, but if I take one
of the legs away, I'm going to tip over. It's
just not going to work. So everything in the universe
fits into one of three categories our thoughts, our physical world,
or our emotion. And so when I was twenty eight
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years old and I was looking for success, I was
educating myself and I was working hard because I only
knew of two of the categories or elements of the
human experience. Once I stumbled across an experience, that's where
I healed an emotional wound, and I saw the material
world around me change clearly, and I made the connection.
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And then I experimented more with Okay, here's an outside irritation,
and I'm going to work with the emotion, and I
saw the connection between emotional healing and the physical world changing.
Then I made the correlation, and I thought through it
as a scientist would, and I come down. I came
back to the law of attraction and sympathetic vibration, which
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means things that vibrate similarly are attracted to each other.
So our thoughts have energy, our physical body and our
actions have energy, and our emotions have energy, and that
vibrational energy through harmonics interacts with the law of attraction,
and the law of attraction then creates every moment of
our day for us out of infinite possibilities.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Well, and you know, I smile and kind of give
a little bit because I think about how years ago,
you know, this whole concept of energy and frequency was
kind of the woo woooo. And yet now here I'm
talking to you, a highly educated scientist. You know, you've
got Joe Despenza who really focuses on meditation, if you're
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aware of that. But he's he's got scientists behind him
and doctors behind him that are doing major research and
validating what he talks about. And so it's fascinating to
me that all of a sudden, something that we thought
was kind of out there, now who has become a
scientific valid point of that energy and how we put
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that out there? You know. One of the questions that
I have for you, though, and we'll get into this
even more, is I remember in my dental practice, okay,
I used to focus a small amount on people who
had chronic pain, head neck pain, and of course, at
that point in time, the dental media called TMJ, you know,
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or mandibular joint syndrome. And so someone would come into
me and say, hey, you know, doctor, I've got two
I've got TMJ. And I wrote, wait a minute, no,
you have two. You've got one on the left side,
you've got one on the right side. So tell me
what's your symptoms. And once they told me the symptoms,
I would discover that most of the time it really
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didn't have anything to do with that joint. It had
everything to do with the with the nerves, It had
everything to do with the muscular relationship and that type
of thing. So when we talk about emotions and you
bring up the point, and I think it's very valid
that emotions create that energy that create the law of attraction.
The challenge is is what's below those emotions, because all
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of a sudden I look at events and you know,
I see that. In fact, it just happened to me
just the other day. Is you know, here's an event.
There's no emotion tied to an event, but I applied,
based on my perception, an emotion to that event, and
once I did that, it created all sorts of interesting
experiences for me. So let's talk about a little bit
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about that. What are your thoughts about that as far
as what is the basis of those emotions.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
So it is, in my opinion and from my experience,
emotions are what you said, an event happens, our mind
makes up a story about it, and that's done at
a subconscious first brain level as well as in our
conscious brain. So emotions are valid in the moment as
part of our guidance. Now, some people say, oh, emotions
are your guidance system. I want to clarify that an
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emotion we feel in the moment we first feel it
is a valid guidance towards something good or away from
something bad. So we have the thought, we have the
observation or experience, we have the thought, we make up
a story, we have the emotional experience that then is
designed to drive us towards that thing or drive us
away from that thing. This is from before our prefrontal
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cortex's evolved. And so I have this experience of say,
a bad experience, and I'm going to go away from
this problem, and so that energy is designed to drive
my body to take action. Well, now my brain gets
involved and slows me down, and I'm looking around or
people going to judge me for my actions? Is this
the best thing to do? And the problem is the
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conscious thinking brain gets in the way of letting the
emotion come through and be experienced and released. So if
I feel twenty say I feel eighty percent of the emotion,
but twenty percent of that energy that's designed to move
me towards her way get stuck in my being, in
my body and my energy field whatever way. I can't
describe that, but I know if my experienced energy is there,
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that energy wants to be released. It doesn't want to
stay within me, and that energy that last twenty percent
of that emotional guidance message that's stuck in me is
still vibrating. It's like storing gasoline in a metal can.
If I start gasoline in a metal can for twenty years,
I could pour it out and burn it. But I
only have to burn it once and then it's gone.
So emotions are bigger than time and space the mind.
(12:02):
Let me slow down here to put it all together.
Our mind is our thinking mind is never in the
present moment. It's thinking of the past, it's thinking of
the future. It's a stream of thought, and like music,
it has to be played out over time. We can
observe in a moment, but that's different than our thinking brain.
So our thinking brain is never in the present moment. Now,
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our body only exists in the now, and emotions are
bigger than time in space. They know no time, but
they have to be experienced through our physical body. So
we store this emotion. It's in our energy field. It
doesn't expire, it doesn't go away, and it continues to
attract to us until we find a way to get
a bodily feeling sensation to release it.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Well, and we talk about emotional intelligence, and we'll get
into that a little bit, I hope, but again I'm
going to challenge it on something and I may not
be making myself clear. Okay, So I want to really
get into this because I look at emotions being a
result of an event. So, for instance, you know, something
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happens and that triggers any emotion, and the reason that
triggers a particular emotion may have to do with some
imprint from my childhood that or in my life that
all of a sudden, And that's why I say, I
just had that happen the other day, an event occurred
and all of a sudden, boom, there I am. I'm
not happy, and I'm looking at that and going okay, wait, wait, wait,
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wait a minute, what is the cause of this? And
I get back to an element in my past experiences
where that remembrance of that triggered that emotion. And so
that's what I'm trying to really have this discussion on
in your experience on that, because as we look to
help people, we see those emotions coming up. But to me,
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the emotional intelligence is when you can see those emotions
come up and go, Okay, why that emotion, whether it's
good or whether it's bad.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Well, I'm going to disagree with you a little bit here, Okay, what.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
I'm going to say.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
What I'm going to say is, yes, we want to
get it, we want to clear it. But my experience
says I don't need to understand it completely to clear it,
but I do need to feel it completely to release it.
So I don't always get back clear to what it
was I was thinking or feeling and what brought up
that emotion for me. Sometimes I do, and that's fantastic.
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But even if I can't understand it with my brain,
as long as I can feel the feeling that's telling
me it wants to come through my body and be released.
And for me, and I'll say this even as a man,
a lot of times it's tears, even it a little tear,
a little sadness, some frustration, whatever that is. If I
can go for a walk, if I can hit a
punching bag, sing in the forest, ride my dirt bike,
(14:46):
and let that energy go, then my world changes. Not
only do I feel better, but the irritation outside irritation.
It's a gift, I said, gift to remind us of
what we have to let go. Then when we can
embrace that gift, feel the feeling and release it. We
don't need to understand it. Understanding can help. I agree
(15:07):
with you on that part, but regardless, let that energy
go and then we don't need the gift of irritation.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Okay. So basically what you're saying is when that emotion
comes up, if we're willing to acknowledge it and to
accept it that heay, here's an emotion that, then let
it go. Particularly if that's the hard part. Yeah, letting
it go.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Letting it go is a hard part because our ego,
that part of us that's human that's here to protect
us from picking up a piece of burning wood out
of the campfires, also protects us from the pain of
our past emotions. And that's the challenge with our ego
is it wants the problem. It wants to be a victim.
Our ego wants to be important, that's part of the
(15:48):
human experience. And yet at the same time, avoiding that
emotional pain that we can feel and heal and release
causes more problems for us as a personality and an ego.
And so it's a contradiction. But as a reason I
didn't jump in and heal my emotions That's why I
avoided my emotions. They hurt. I didn't want to go there.
I had pain, I had shame, I had disappointment. And
(16:12):
when eventually I was able to release more and more,
then my world improved in so many ways. And my
business in nineteen eighty nine was amazing. But after I
started to apply spiritual principles to my business, then it
grew thirty and forty times to what it was when
I was already successful. But that pain, we don't want
(16:33):
to feel about it. It's not a fun thing to do.
The results are amazing, but the process is not fun.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Well, as you talk about business and what I've experienced,
and I shure you you have too, is you know
whatever principles of that you have experienced to improve your business.
We talked about the business of life, and it's so
interesting that principles that help us to be truly successful
in a meaningful way in business or the very same
(16:59):
prince that help us to be successful in the business
of life and what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I would agree with that, And if I can tangent
for a moment, would helped me be successful in business
is to be centered enough and calm enough and confident
enough that I was capable, not from an egle point
of view, but to understand as a leader, I'm capable
of leading the group to success, and I'm capable of
helping the members of my group find individual success. Then
(17:26):
when I realized my power as a leader did not
come from my title, it came from the success of
my group, then I could be vulnerable, meaning I could
admit when I made mistakes, I could help have other
people help me make decisions. I could take responsibility for
the mistakes of the group, even if it wasn't my fault,
(17:46):
and create a safe place for them. I could share
all the success and give credit for all the success
to them. So as a leader, my position, my ego
at least, was as secondary. These people want to do
their best, they want to succeed, and when they know
I was going to say when they feel but when
(18:07):
they really know that I'm there to help them succeed
and I'm there to serve them as a leader. I'm
not here to be served. I'm here to serve. Then
they're like, oh, Randy's on my side, He's going to
take care of me. I'm on board. Let's make this
happen and when you get a group of two or
three or one hundred or thousand people, thousands pretty tough
to accomplish that with. When you do it with one
hundred people, and now they know Randy's here to take
(18:29):
care of me and we're going to win this together,
then even though I'm vulnerable, I'm more respected and I'm
more appreciated, and they feel appreciated and they produce and
we have a winning team. And that's how I was
able to produce the success in business. It wasn't through me,
it was through my team wanting to succeed and knowing
they could show up as themselves without having to put
(18:51):
on a facade.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Well, let's talk about ego. You know, Kar totally wrote
a number of books on about ego and and what
I find when we talk about emotional intelligence, how much
how much of being able to acknowledge and literally be
aware of our ego and recognize that there's a very
important aspect of our ego a good one, but also
(19:16):
it can take us down a path that's not very healthy.
And how do you quite the emotional intelligence of an
individual with how they're able to be aware of and
acknowledge that ego and recognize when it's going in a
direction of all I have to have this, I have
to have that. This is making me important. Now I
feel important, rather than recognizing that it's just a healthy
(19:38):
thing to understand spiritually of who you are.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I think a person's words give them away a lot
when they talk about me or I rather than we,
when they use the word you accept in a place
of praise. I stopped using the word you when I
talk to somebody, except when I'm praising thirty years ago,
because people get defensive. Say you, and if we're talking
about success, I need to say we. And that's a
(20:04):
good indicator. It's not fool proof, but that's a good
indicator of is the leader looking to be important or
is the leader looking to be of service to their
group and humanity. And the only way that I can
really find fulfillment is to connect with the people that
I lead. Otherwise there's a separation. And we're not here
(20:24):
on this planet to be separate from each other. Now,
there's some people I want to be separate from. There's
some toxic people. I want to set some boundaries with
some certain people. But if I'm working with the right
group of people, whether it's in my neighborhood, whether it's
at work, then I want to connect with them. I
want them to feel acknowledged by me. I want them
to feel they're contributing to the cause, and I want
them to feel they belong to the group like they
(20:46):
would belong to a family. And when I can accomplish
those three things, the acknowledgment, the sense of contribution, and
sense of belonging, they show up completely differently. And it's
a deeper experience for all of us. Now that's not
just about a deep experience. Yeah, that's wonderful, and that's
to me, that's really freaking important. But at the same time,
(21:06):
that deeper experience that I had with the people I
worked with that created financial success. And we can have
personal relationships and deep connections with the people we work
with and still be respected and achieve even greater financial success.
And that's kind of ironic, but that's what I find
to be the truth. And leaders are afraid of the
(21:29):
same thing I was afraid of. When we become vulnerable,
we make we show up compassionate and caring, then people
might not respect us. That was my fear.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Okay, So I want to move away from business. I
want to get to personal Okay, because you keep talking
about business and financial success, Let's talk about quote leaders,
leaders of our own life, maybe as parents, leaders of
our family, and as you mentioned, in a community, as
we're as we're doing that because let's look at what
(22:00):
going on right now when we talk about emotions, the
look at what's happening in the US right now. I
mean the anger, the frustration, all of that is just
destroying the healthiness of the country to such a large degree.
But let's take that down to the personal level. As
a parent, how do I, as a parent lead my
(22:22):
children and be with them to help them to grow
up in a more productive, emotionally healthy way. And as
I'm in a group of people, friends, neighborhood, and so forth,
what do we do in order to do that? How
do we help people to really become a leader within
(22:43):
their own life? Forget the business, because not everybody owns
a business, you know everyone. A lot of people are
just working for someone else, which is good.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
And I apologize for getting off track, but I understand
your question.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Yeah, okay, extreme and.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I talk about this Ankins in chapter six of the
book Extreme Self Responsibility, Meaning my reality is created for
me in response to who I am, and therefore I
have zero reason to blame anybody. And so as soon
as we find ourselves blaming our circumstances, whether our neighbor,
(23:17):
somebody we work with, our spouse, as soon as we
start to blame and want to change something outside of ourselves,
that is an indicator that we're off track.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
And as an indicator that the energy, as you talked
about at the beginning, the energy that we're putting out
there is attracting the energy back. So our life experiences
are basically a result to a large degree of who
we are. You know, I always come up with the
saying when we talk about spirituality, you know, did did
(23:47):
he become who? Did he do what he did in
order to become or did he do what he did
because he was? And I think that's so important for
people to understand that, you know, what our experiences in
life to a large degree. Obviously, once in a while,
some things happen that are totally out of our control,
and I don't believe that we attracted that. But for
(24:09):
the most part, our life experience as a result of
who we are and the energy that we put out,
and that's kind of what you were talking about.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Right, Yes, and so we are the only one who
can truly affect our life. Yes, things happen to us
from the outside, but if we didn't cause that to happen,
and it appears to be random, our response does not
have to be random. Our response is up to us.
So we have the ability to respond. Responsibility means the
(24:38):
ability to respond. So I have the ability to choose
what I'm going to think when something happens to me,
what I'm going to do in response, and how I'm
going to feel or how I'm going to process through
the emotions that are reactivated. And when I become aware,
and this has took me a long time to get to,
when I became aware that everything in my life is
for my growth and is a gift for growth and
(25:00):
a grift for learning, then when something happens to me,
I can say, wait a minute, don't get angry, don't
be upset, don't blame. How do I recognize the gift
in this situation. So when parents blame, their children learn
to blame and feel like they don't have any power
over the situation. But when parents can say, Okay, there's
(25:21):
a gift here, and I'm going to make the best
of this. Then their children will learn to make the
best of every situation that comes along, even if it's ugly.
Even the ugly things that happen to us are an
opportunity for learning. And when we get to that point
of faith, a tipping point where if we've done it
so many times that we know, okay, I can look
at this from a place of of optimism and I
(25:44):
can say there's a good lesson in here. And we
do that enough times, it becomes natural. And when we
look for the positive lesson, I find it every time.
I don't always like or I find it, but I
find the positive lesson every time.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
When I take that approach, well, and I think that's showing.
And I appreciate you saying that, because I think for
people to understand that, you know, what life happens. But
as you say, it's the response that we have control over,
you know. And getting back to something we were talking
about a little bit earlier, when people find themselves in
a sense of they're just constantly angry. I noticed that
(26:20):
a lot on Facebook. You know, a number of people
that I've known for years, all of a sudden, Wow,
every post that they make has an element of anger,
an element of frustration. And you know, as you look
at and I don't know how much you get into
the emotional scales, but you know, as I look at
the Hicks Emotional Guidance Scale, which I love, and looking
(26:42):
at the fact that anger, irritation, frustration is below that
healthy line, how do people in your experience overcome that?
And Number one, I guess, be aware of the fact that, wow,
I'm constantly angry and acknowledge that that. Secondarily, how do
they ultimately start to move up that spiral to where
(27:04):
at lace there's contentment and maybe even hopefulness and then
ultimately joy and freedom. Where are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Well, I think the first place to start is understanding.
We understand that our reality is created by us and
our responses to everything around us. Then it also helps
to realize that when we're four years old and we
complain and cry and make and blame, somebody takes care
of us. And maybe they still do when we're fifteen,
(27:32):
and maybe they still do when we're twenty five. But
when we become a grown adult, if we hang onto
those behaviors we learn when we were younger, they don't help.
So first we have to be aware of our own behavior.
We have to be aware that the law of attraction
is here to serve us, not in a bad way,
just as simple reflection. So the understanding of our bad
behavior and our wrongful approach, incorrect approach, un effective approach.
(27:57):
I don't want to use words that are judgmental, but
I want to be discerning and say when I blame
and I get angry, it's not going to help. And
then if I understand, Okay, yeah, it feels good to
blame in the moment, but that's not moving my life forward,
and I understand that the law of attraction is here
to respond to my good thoughts and my good actions
(28:17):
and respond to my gratitude, and gratitude is a great,
great cheat code, and respond to those more positive emotions.
And then my mind says I've had enough of the
negative means this isn't working. I want to try something different.
A person has to come to that place where they
make a choice and they make a decision to try
a different approach. And if they never come to that decision,
(28:39):
they're going to live their life in misery. And God's patient.
God will give them a thousand or ten thousand lifetimes
with that to figure it out. But the moment we
say this isn't working and I'm going to try something different,
and if they read the book, I outline it in
a way that makes good sense. It gives people some
light at the end of the tunnel to be willing
to take a different approach. And so again it's awareness
(29:02):
of our bad behavior and awareness and education about how
the law of attraction really works well.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
And you mentioned gratitude, and I think that's so essential.
But I think for a lot of people that can
be really difficult to express gratitude when they're experiencing something
that is not necessarily on the surface, something you can
be grateful for. So, as you have written in your book,
how do people begin to develop a sense of gratitude
(29:29):
even in those situations where it's kind of difficult to
figure that out.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
That's a place where we kind of have to fake
it till we make it. But in gratitude, if we're
intending to find something positive, and we can start out going, Okay,
I got I get I live in a shitty neighborhood.
At least they got a house and the weather it's raining,
but at least I'm not flooded, and my hot water
heater is not working, but at least I have water.
(29:55):
Those are negatives that are kind of in versus a
little bit positive. If we can start to tiptoe baby
step towards the positive, we're setting the intention. And even
if we do a bad job of being grateful, we're
setting the intention, and the blob attraction will get behind
our intention. And even if we're not wholeheartedly finding things
(30:17):
to be grateful for, we're stepping into new territory, and
law of attraction is patiently waiting for us to look
for more positive things, and we find we go looking
for And even if I'm cynical when I start down
that path, I started down the path, and I set
the intention to find things to be grateful for, and
(30:38):
my experience says, it just takes one step at a
time in the right direction, even if I'm not doing
it wholeheartedly, and the entire universe will get behind me
and support me on my intent to find something to
be grateful for. And the power of gratitude credibly.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Strong well, and it's fascinating. As I mentioned, as I
did a little research, the first thing that comes up
and then you just talked about it is a mind action,
so we have that attraction, but then we put in
that alight action, and I think that that's so important.
And the other thing, I don't know how much you
know with your experience and background scientifically that as we
(31:16):
and I like how you talk about it, even as
we try hard to show positive gratitude, and sometimes that
can be very difficult. But as we continue to do that,
what happens if you're aware of it, what happens to
the neurological pathways in our brain to the point that
all of a sudden, everything that occurs, the first thing
that comes up is what can I be grateful for?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Our pathways are wired to repeat what rewards us now
Ego like Acertolli says, the pain body wants to complain
and it gets the insert reward of feeling important. But
if we find a place we can feel gratitude, something
we can feel gratitude about the law of attraction, the
universe will bring us something else to feel grateful for
(32:00):
that will amplify over time. And then when we're rewarded
by positive thoughts and positive actions and by feeling some
gratitude and we see a positive response in our life,
and our brain will automatic rewire and say positive out
come came from this positive input. It automatically makes those
connections for us, whether we're aware of it or not.
(32:23):
But we just have to start down that path of
taking action towards being optimistic and towards seeing the good
and things.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
It starts with intent and I think even affirmations. As
we continue to do that in a positive way, we
start to create new neurological pathways that ultimately change that
law of attraction, as you say, because it changes the
energy within us. You know, when I went on to
your LinkedIn site, I found a quote that I just
loved it. I want to read it here for the
audience and then have you come in on it. You say,
(32:52):
the energy you carry speaks louder than your mindset ever
will what was behind that? And and what are you
trying to say there?
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Well, okay, so speed of light is really fast. It
will go around the Earth seven times in one second,
pretty fast, but it still takes eight minutes to reach
some sun. To us, emotions are bigger than time and space.
They're not bound by time and space. So when we
feel something, the entire all that is, this universe and
every universe out there, some level gets that message instantly
(33:24):
the moment we feel something through kind of interpretation of
string theory, where everything's just a vibration at the smallest
level there is. There are no speed limitations to that,
and so the emotions that we carry good, bad, or
otherwise we're feeling in the moment, the energy of that
is transmitted everywhere all the time. So if I walk
(33:46):
into a room, now it's appropriate for people to interact
with me at an energetic level because they want to
be aware of who I am. I'm closer to them,
they're going to be talking to me or avoiding me,
or whatever that might be. And so everybody feels everything
at some level. But when you and I are in
the same room, suddenly we're feeling each other more. And
we look and look as Doug making eye contact or
(34:08):
Rainy making eye contact, is he's smiling as he look grouchy,
And I'm looking with my mind and my eyes on
my mind to assess the situation. But our aura, our
energy field, walked into that room before our physical body did.
And it's the same way with the law of attraction,
the law of attraction feels our energy field and our
emotions before we even take action on those emotions. And
(34:32):
so it's a it's like a radio signal that goes
out ahead of us, and it's a radio signal that's
faster than the speed of light. Did that answer your question?
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Yeah, I think so. And I like the fact that
you talk about when we walk into a room, you know,
we put out an energy that can be so positive
or in many respects negative, and people pick up on
it immediately. And you know, as you think about that,
and as we talk about the law of attraction, as
we talk about creating within ourselves that positive synchronicity, that
(35:05):
positive element and energy, what happens if we continually surround
ourselves with people or media that is always negative. What
happens to us?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
It drags us down. It's like taking a beautiful tuning fork,
a beautiful instrument and throwing a wet towel over. It
stops vibrating at a beautiful harmony, harmonic, it stops vibrating
at the frequency we intend. So those negative thoughts that
we have, negative stories we observe, and negative people we
(35:38):
interact with, that dampens the beauty within us that wants
to shine through.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
So what do we do? What do we do to
avoid that so that we can literally create within our
mind and create within our energy that positive aspect to
really experience that sense of joy and freedom and love.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
We set the attention. We learn to say no to
the people, the things that drag us down or can
drag us down. We become aware of our own negative
emotions we're hanging on to through journaling or whatever that
might be, and work through breathwork, and so we remove
ourselves from the negative, and then we outside of ourselves.
(36:16):
We remove ourselves from the negative of the outside world.
Then we become aware of the negative emotional energy within us,
not because we're going to amplify it, but because we're
going to identify it, find a modality to work through it,
like breathing or tapping or some exercise to work through
it and release it. And when we release that negative
energy within us, love fills that space immediately. Then it
(36:38):
makes it easier to attract to us good news. It
makes it easier to attract to us happier, more positive people.
So we say no to the outside negativity, We embrace
and release the inside negativity and law of attraction will
guide us to more positive things without us even having
to try so.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
In your book, do you get into meditations, You get
it at tapping. You get into breathing as a particular
element of how to start to eliminate those negative emotions.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yes, I have fourteen different exercises in chapter seven, and
I also share on my website Randy Lyman dot com
and how to I share some of the practitioners I
work with today still, whether it be for a massage
or hypnotherapy or chiropractic, whatever it might be to allow
energy to come through my body, and there are several modalities.
(37:31):
It's different for everybody. I cannot sit still and meditate.
I can ride my dirt bike at fifty miles.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
An hour in the rough desert.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
And I'm calm and I'm clear and beautiful information comes
to me. But I can't sit still. Everyone is different.
So I've shared a lot of different things that work
for me and work for my friends, and I just
tell people find what will help your mind stay occupied
while the deeper peace can find a way through.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Yeah. I love that, and for me it's walking meditation.
I'd like you to sit there for thirty minutes to
forty five minutes. Can't do it. But I could walk
for three miles for an hour, and with meditative music
in there, I can literally experience an amazing meditation. And
so I love what you talked about there that you know.
(38:18):
But and again you talk about different tools, and I
really appreciate that you've put that in there because I
think for people, as you know, one tool work for
one person that won't work for another person. And for
you to have that in your book of tools of
how they can literally start to achieve that, I think
is really important and essential. So I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Well, thank you. We're all different. So I one of
two of the things I included. One is dance. I
can't dance. I have no rhythm. Of some people they
really can express through dance and singing. I can't sing
that some people to sing it just helps them connect.
And So a friend of mine told me thirty years ago,
if we can find God or higher experience through beer
and pizza, great, God doesn't care. We shouldn't care. As
(39:02):
long as we can find a way to find more
peace and find more centeredness. Do what works.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Yeah, that's so true. Well, as we as we come
to a close. What would be that message that you
really ultimately want the audience to understand.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Every one of us is a spark, a divine source.
Every one of us is beautiful inside. Every one of
us deserves an amazingly beautiful, successful, healthy life that comes
in a lot of different shades. But anybody who's starting
to visualize, can it be better for me? My answer
is yes, it can find a way to love yourself,
work through your emotional blocks with the intent of life
(39:40):
getting better, and the universe will jump in and support
you and help you move in that direction. You're worth it,
You're deserving your love.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Great. Great, So just we've talked about it, but let's
kind of reference it one more time here and near
the end. How do people find you? And how do
people find your book?
Speaker 2 (39:57):
So they find my book the third element through typical
online booksellers. I can't say names because that doesn't always
go over well depending on the platforms you're on. But
to my website Randy Lyman dot com, they can find
links as to where to buy the book. They can
find links to free offers that I have free workbooks
that I offer tapping meditations. So on my website Randyliman
(40:20):
dot com. Again, I offer a lot of things that
are free. This is not about making money for me.
This is about helping people find their power, finding ways
to improve their life and for the world becoming a
better place well.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
And it goes to the whole point of this podcast
is making a difference in other people's lives. And you know,
when if we can all get to the point where
you are, as you said, where you know, I'm not
here to make money. I'm here to make a difference
in someone's life. I think that becomes so essential. And
if we could learn to pay that forward and always
do that, I think that would make such a change
(40:53):
in the world. Don't you absolutely I agree hundred percent time. Yeah. Hey,
well listen, Randy, thank you so much. This has been great.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Here, welcome, it's been fun being on your questions. Fantastic.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
I love your work, appreciate it, and folks, thanks for listening.
I hope you'll join us again soon. This is doctor
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