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Books, PD, products, science, fashion and glam Talk from Bollywood
to Hollywood. It's Meet and greet with Doctor Ashan Hashmi
right here on K FORHD radio and Talk for TV.
And here's your host, International speaker, educator, award winning entrepreneur
and best selling author, Doctor Afshan Hashmi.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Hello, every fund This is the loving hosts and best
selling author, radio and TV personality Doctor Rafshan Hashmi live
from her studio, Saudi Arabia Style Studio in Rockville, Maryland.
And here, folks, the glare is coming. Although I tried
to close the thing, I don't know why the glare
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is coming. So having said that, folks, you know today
I want to remind you that these are my two books.
The first one is The Modern Mogle Mentality, New Strategies
to succeed in India and the global marketplace. And the
second one is the Outbreak of a Monstrous Infection. So
the first one is the modern mogal mentality with Amazon's
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it was an Amazon best seller in India and in
USA and hot number one new release on Amazon in
the USA. And this one, the Outbreak of a Monstrous Infection,
was actually, you know, the best Amazon bestseller in USA.
And I want an These books are available worldwide and
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I want you know, folks, you know that, to please
go and buy these two books and give me an
honest review. And also this show is syndicated worldwide to
three hundred million listeners, and so please go and sponsor
my show. And today I have a very very interesting guest,
a guy you know who I didn't know. I haven't
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met him in person, only virtual talks and all. But
he is the producer of this show of Talk four
Media and I buy time from him, so and I
want to bring him in. And many many hiccups came
in my radio and TV show, but he did not
back off, you know, from giving me this chance. And
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I really love him. I have never met him. He's
like my older brother who gives me insights. He taught me,
you know, free of cost, how to manage this all
and everything, and I really love him. And here I
introduced world famous producer Bean Piper.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Well, Hello, Sean, how are you?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I'm fine, And I have to say I love all
the words you said, except old older.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Okay, I might be the younger brother. Now I'm just kidding.
So I'm glad to be on your show here.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
So just tell a little bit that how this talk
for media, you know, came into existence, and what were
your hiccups and what is your experience because many people
like me. Also, if I want to set up a
radio station, what should I look into? Because you own
so many radio stations. So how did this all opportunity
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came about? And what are your next plans?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
So it came started with vision.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I used to be very big in the investment in
insurance business, and I used to be like you and
buy time to do radio sh and also as a
motivational speaker. You know, I've shared the stage with all
of the big name motivational speakers, and you know I
used to use the radio show to promote my investment business,
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to promote my motivational speaking, to promote my positive message,
and I saw a shift going on in the media world.
Back in two thousand and seven, where streaming was first starting,
there was no such word as it yet. It was
just called internet radio, and there wasn't even podcasting yet.
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Podcasting is just a fancy word for a recording, you know.
But it's become the buzzword and the buzz thing, and
everybody wants to have a podcast now. But I was
there before it even existed. As a matter of fact,
my organization was the one that we beta tested iHeartRadio's
original podcast network called iHeart Talk because podcast was not
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a word yet, and basically had this vision the very
beginning of you know, media was going to change, that
it was going to be what it is today. And
I like to associate like Bill Gates and IBM. Like
Bill Gates came out while he was working at IBM
and said, Hey, I have an idea for you know,
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a personal computer and everybody's home. An IBM's answer to
that was, yeah, that'll never happen, the mainframes never going
away in your nuts. And that's when Bill Gates decided
to leave IBM and start Microsoft and ergo here we
are today doing this show on PC's the vision that
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Bill Gates had. Well, it was the same for me,
like you know, yeah to lorestrial radio and the internet
radio came out. But all these people and this also
answers your quest and they're like, well, now you know,
when they're in that radio, I can just do it
for my bedroom. And my answer is no, just because
you can. I mean you can do it. I can
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do it as far as the host, but not running
the actual radio station. Okay, a real radio station needs
to be licensed, It needs to pay royalties like we do.
It needs to have professional studios, professional engineers, even though
Rebel's engineering this show and I'm just Rebel, not really
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but maybe and go ahead, well you gonna say Rebel,
go ahead, I see you can try in the China.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Not even gonna go there with you.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Because we love you.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
You are Vene.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, just come over and show your face because all
my three hundred million audience wants to see who Rebel is.
And why do I always want Rebel?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Oh, nobody wants to see it. She's got she's got
a face for radio.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, so yeah, so bea and stay the art equipment
like you know, listen, people say, well, I can watch
a YouTube video and I could do my own radio station.
Yeah you could. You could also watch a YouTube video
on doing brain surgery. I don't want you pulling the
scalpelt to my head though, And that's the point you
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got to run. And if this type of medium was
I saw where it was going. But it had to
be run professionally. So if you're gonna have internet radio
and you're gonna have it compete with terrestrial radio, you
had to have all the things that terrestrial radio had,
professional studios.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yes, I want to interrupt you, but I remember one
thing I was with block Talk radio and you said
that you know, anytime you could be cashed, that they
can say that you are not licensed. You know, yes,
that story.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Well, because there are lots See this is the problem
with people that are not from the industry try and
come in the industry because they watch some video and
listen to some snake all salesman saying that they can,
you know, do their own podcasts.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
It don't cost them nothing. No, that's not true. You could.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
It's not going to do anything though. The licensing alone
is required by law, and with that licensing, I have
to do reporting every single month or quarter of what
we're playing, and I have to pay royalties, and I
pay licensing fees throughout the for the whole year too.
Without that licensing, you're breaking the law. Okay, you're breaking
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a law. People think they're not. They're like, well, I
don't need to. I've had people say, may, well, why
should I have to pay royalties?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
They should be like people do podcast on stream yard,
on YouTube and all that without having, you know, to
go to a radio station.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Well they're doing it, but they're gonna get caught and
it's gonna cost them a lot of money, is what's
gonna happen?
Speaker 4 (09:03):
You know that?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Like even Spotify got fined years ago over a half
a million dollars for not paying royalties. Same thing. Like
it's been the wild wild West. And once the government
figures out how to regulate things, which they have been
doing now, but in the beginning they weren't, they're not
gonna come slap you in the hand. They're gonna they're
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gonna let you do enough and dig a deep enough
hole that they can put you out of business.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Okay, because if you.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Talk like I do my show on the stream Yard
and I just send you to uh spread it the worldwide.
So what is the situation then.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Well, because you're saying you're recording it, but we're broadcasting it.
And when you're broadcasting it, it has to be licensed
and it has to be done by the rules and
by the law, and yeah, you can put stuff, but
you'll see you will see that the YouTube is cracking
down lately. You know, they've been using AI to scour through.
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I've had it too, even on Spotify, like I get
right now in twenty twenty five. This whole year, every
single day, I'm getting hundreds of emails from Spotify verifying
that I have the right to play the things I'm
playing or they're taking it down and I could possibly
get fined. It could be quite expensive if you get caught.
(10:29):
You know, it's like anything else. Sure you can break
the law and you might not get caught, but when
you do get caught, then there's a problem. And the
hard thing is too, is you know, people have to
be feel that you're a professional and not a scammer.
And the way to do that is to do it
the legal way. That's you know, and then on top
of it, you know, to be taken seriously, you have
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to write like a real radio station. So, like I
was saying, you know, we have professional engineers, professional studio,
statey or equipment. But we also do a lot of
things that terrestrial stations do, like do live remote broadcasts
for events, we go, do radio and media coverage at
different events and music festivals and conferences. You know, we
do everything as if it were a terrestrial station. Most
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of the people that are just reading, reading some stuff
or watching YouTube, they're not doing any of that. They're
just talking because they love to hear themselves talk. You know,
let's call what it is. Most podcasters have an ego
and they all think they have the best content ever.
But if your content is not quality and good sound
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quality and isn't legal, it doesn't do a bit of
good for you. And you know, even when I have
guests that come on my show, I'm like, well why
should you be a guest on my show? And this
shows the ego they say to me because I have
great content. And then my next statement to them is,
well so do millions of other people doing podcasts. Now
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what do you have? And they never have that next answer.
Content is great, but it's not enough. It's not enough
to become a successful radio show, host, podcast or what
have you. And most of these podcasters that do it
on their own, their listeners are their friends and family
that already know them, so that doesn't help much.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Either.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
You need to go on network like ours, where we
already have a built in organic audience throughout the world
that you your message can get to, because without an
organization like mine, your message isn't getting to them. Your
message is gained to just the people you know. Or
you make it a full time job to spend a
lot of money marketing and promoting and all that. You
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cannot build something without promoting it and without investing in it.
There are no free lunches. People think they could do
it for free, even the mics. They go on and
buy a twenty dollars mic. A twenty dollars mic is
what you give your kid on Christmas that they can
play with. It's not so something you produce a radio
show or podcast with.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
So because of.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
That, we really made a name for ourselves because we're
doing it different in the beginning, back in two thousand
and seven than anybody else was, because we were doing
it the right way, and that's why we're still here
eighteen years later and most of the people that were
around then are not around anymore. Because it's a great idea,
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but you'd still got to run a business like a business.
And you know, as you can testify to, we're a
well oiled machine and we make for hosts like you easy.
Then you can just come on and do your thing
and you don't have to worry about all the other
stuff because we're doing it for you.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
So we are going to continue the conversation after the
first break, Rebel, please do the sponsorship with you.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
And the viewers around the Little Fist Doctor of John Hassman,
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Talk for TV show. And I just wanted to request
you that please give me a sponsorship if you want
to want this show to continue. Having set that, friends,
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I will see you in another.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Episode of K four st Ratio.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Plus Talk for TV Show And if you give me
a sponsorship, I will give you a very reasonable price
and also you will get a lot of promotion as
this show is syndicated world Right to meet them through
Inelast years and bye bye.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
So a Dean, I have this question that when I
gave you my first call, you know, and you said
that I really negotiated a good price, and you always
say I'm a very good negotiator. So what qualities did
I have that you chose me?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Well, I chose you because you have a strong message
and a strong belief in what you're doing, and a
strong belief in helping people. And that's the first and
most important part over money, over anything else. You and
you are somebody that the world needs to hear. Now
as far as a negotiator, well, you're tough, okay, Like
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I'm a Jew, We're supposed to be the master negotiators.
But I'm sorry, I think your background. Man, you you uh,
you really beat me up a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
So better than Jews and negotiating.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, and I'm a I'm a really good negotiator, right exactly.
That's why I say that, you know, I mean you definitely, uh.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
You should be You should be that for a living.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Let's let you could be a you could even be
with for your book, the Monstrous Infection Book.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
You could be the hostage negotiator.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
So what have you thought about you being my Hollywood agent?
I still am looking for a Hollywood agent and I
have been talking to you, So what what is those hiccups.
You know that you are not taking that job.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Well, I think you're on your way doing it by
doing this show. Okay, So things are very different nowadays,
you know, than they used to be in Hollywood. You know,
a lot of people are doing what you're doing, paying
to have a show on network like mine. I'm gaining
the exposure and then Hollywood will find you.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
You know it.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
You know, Hollywood and the record labels and all that.
They want you already to succeed first, then they bring
you on. It's not like the old days where they
threw money at in took a shot. They don't do
that anymore. They look and they look at things like
what you're already doing. They don't want to train you.
They don't want to get you there. They want you
there and then they'll take you to a whole different level.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
So what should I do improvement in that in bringing
my book to film?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Well, first of all, continue doing what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Promote, promote, promote, promote, put it out there, you know,
and just like sometimes it's just luck. It's like running
into the right person at the right time.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
I run.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Well, that's right, and that that's the first step there, right, there,
and but I mean it takes time.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
There's a saying in the.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
TV and radio and music business, and that is it
takes twenty years to become an overnight sensation. So like
people think that these people just wake up one day
and they become stars. No, they starved, they worked hard,
they put they put a lot of blood and sweat
into it, and that's how they get there. And that
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is what you do have on your side, off Sean,
because you do put a lot of blood and sweat
into what you're doing. You work very hard and you're continuous,
and that's part of what it takes. Nowadays, you know,
we only hear about them once their success. We don't
hear about what they had to go through to get there.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yes, yes, thanks a lot, you know for motivating me,
because after my husband's death, you know, I need a
lot of motivation. But the problem is that I am
even like not getting a sponsorship. I tried everything and
I'm not getting his sponsorships. You know, I sponsored my
own show, so I'm not getting a sponsorship. You have
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sent me those links and all I have written to
them what is going on in a sponsorship business? Because
you guys have a lot of sponsorship. You know what
I am not doing that I'm not getting a sponsorship.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Well, because it's a to be honest, it's a sales process,
no negotiating process. So beIN even though you're the master negotiator,
it's the sales techniques and and and part of sales
techniques is not like browbeating people or you know, it's
like you got to make it their idea. You know,
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when you're trying to pitch something to somebody, you're the salesperson,
you're the enemy, and it's not a good idea. But
when you make it their idea, then it's a good
idea and they can't object to that example.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Okay, So if I said to you, if I was.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Looking for you to be a potential sponsor of my show,
I would say to you, off, Sean, if I presented
an opportunity to you that would benefit your business, your book,
your message, everything else, is that the type of thing
that you would take advantage of?
Speaker 4 (19:48):
What would you say? You would say yes, right.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
And then I would say something to the effect of, well,
you know, we have exposure over three hundred million listeners.
We are a professional station license, we have listeners all
around the world. I'm sure that's the type of exposure
you're looking for your business, right, and again you would
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probably say yes, and then I would say something to
the effect of, well, then what's holding you back? And see,
the key is to getting sponsors or any kind sales
is not salespeople aren't the best talkers, they're the best listeners.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
The key is questions. So when you ask questions that
there's a few things that happen. Certain questions like the
ones I was just asking, are what's called trial closes.
They're asking small closing questions to get the yes answer
to program people to say yes to the big question.
Then there's the probing questions, which are the questions to
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find out more about the person. You gotta show you care.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
You got to show that it's not about you, it's
not about them spending money with you, it's about you
helping them. So by doing that, you ask questions to
find out what their needs desires, because everybody's needs, desires,
and goals are very different.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
So you have to ask these.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Questions so you find out about them, so you could
provide them a custom situation that's what they're looking for,
what they need and will satisfy our goals, and a
lot of sales is psychology of sales. Okay, there's even
a book on it. And I'm going to even show
you a little example of that right now. We're going
to do a lab experiment right here.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
So, like I said before, yes, these trial close questions
to get the yes answers to small questions to get
the yes and no. And what we're doing there is
we're programming them, okay, technologically. So as an example, I
want you to do me a favor, and I want
you to say the word joke ten times fast.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Say it for me right on the air. Joke joke, joke, joke, joke, joke.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Joke, jog yog jog yog yog yog yog yoke yog.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Yes, and what's the white part? An egg, white.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
White butt off, an head? Yeah, a white tang. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, See, you're pretty good. Most people would say the
yolk because you were saying joke, joke, joke, and they
automatically ninety nine percent of time people say yoke, you know,
because they're not thinking, they're just so i'matically answering because
you're programming them with the smaller questions you know, so
like we could even mess with Rebel a little bit. Okay, Rebel,
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come on, are you ready, Rebel? Okay, okay, do me
a favor and say bread ten times.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Fast bread bread.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Don't say that, never mind, I screwed it up. Okay,
say toast ten times fast.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Toast, toost, toast, toost, toost, toast, toost, toost, toost toasts.
Will you put in the toaster bread?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, because I've screwed it up, But most people would
say toast. I screwed it up by saying the bread,
but you would say toasts, and then it's like, no,
you put bread in a toaster and you take toast out.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
But people, that's how our mind works, you know. Sometimes
we don't even think about it, and especially today because
how many times on social media do people share articles
that they don't even read. They just see the headline
and share it because they think it fits their narrative
all day every the same thing exactly. Yeah, okay, Rebel
does it all day long. There's you know, there's times
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I've said to Rebel, why are you sharing that? Oh,
I'm saving so I could read it later, Like, yeah,
that's not the point of sharing.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
But that's what I do. I don't have time to
read it.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
I see it, it looks something I want to interest
maybe possibly take an interest in, or at least read later.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Right, So save it for later.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Don't share it with the world as your belief system
when you don't even know what you're sharing. Just because
you put something on the wall doesn't mean it's your
belief system. It just needs that everybody would think that.
Everybody would think that if you know, if you put
on there something, they're going to think that's your belief system.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
That's just the way it works.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
There was a hiccup there that there was this baseball player,
you know, and remember he sent me so many emails
about his sponsorship and then when you talk to him,
he was so rowdy and so that. So what do
you think people are just sending me I mean, I
spent so much of time there and I thought, you know,
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he's a baseball or a player or so he will,
you know, give me a sponsorship. But I don't know
what happened at that.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
You don't assume what people are.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
That's to begin with, the best sponsors are the people
you think won't be your sponsors. The people that you
think will be never will be. It certainly kind of
works that way.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Number one.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Number two, you know it's the one saying for me.
Thing so you're worried about is he's a baseball player.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
He should just.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Give you money. And he's thinking, no, I worked hard
for that money, you know, So you have to convince them.
That goes back to making their idea instead of your idea.
Instead you think, and they should give you money. I'm
more like, hey, I can help you. What kind of
help do you need? And then they tell me. I'm like, well,
if I could fulfill that, would you take advantage of it?
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Yes? You know you got five and not everybody's good.
It's a numbers game. Listen.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
You have to talk to a lot of people. You
have to talk to a lot of people that it's
a numbers game. If you talk to twenty people, probably
only five to seven of them are gonna create even
get more information and have that only one to one
to have ten would probably do business with you.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Right's so hard, you know, and it is so hard
to get a sponsorship, you know, and without a sponsorship
to carry out this show is very very difficult. Whatever
like the I think you know, all those ideas are
in my mind. I go blow it out, you know,
on people, but nothing is working.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Well.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
You gotta give them something first, okay, like like, as example,
have them be a guest.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
On your show for free.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Okay, get them interested, get them, they get to know
you and trust you because there's so many people they
could give their money to. Okay, They're only going to
give their money to somebody they trust and that they
feel is confident to help them, not yourself.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
You keep focusing on that. It's all about them.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
See you are you are a Jewish man. I am
a Muslim woman, you know, and like in your community,
everyone is so empowered. In our community, people are not
in that position. They are hand to mouth.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
My contacts are hand to mouth, so they cannot sponsor
my show. But if I go to Middle East and
start talking to these kings and queens and all that,
you know, I don't have those kind of contacts you know,
to get because they have money.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
You know, they'll go after the elephants, go after the peanuts.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
You know what that means.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
It means that people like what you're saying, you don't
go after the people with that are the Kings, the Queen's,
the big micers. They have too many choices, they have
too much time, and they have not enough time. They're
not gonna, you know, they may not give you the
time of day. You have to go after the small
business owner.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
You have to go out.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
They're the ones that spend money with you, the people
that you can actually talk to, the people that are
not out of reach.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
I have pried with small, big and middle people, but
it's not happening, you know. And I really need a sponsorship.
So folks, you know, this is my producer. You know,
I brought him here. There is someone by name of
Dean Piper through whom I buy time. He's a very
successful man and he owns a lot of radio shows.
(27:48):
And my show is syndicated worldwide to three hundred million listeners.
So I would, you know, requests you to please sponsor
my show if you like my show. You had an
army radio also, and you had you have many different
kinds of radio. So how much investment did you do
(28:09):
in the beginning to make a radio show.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Well, that's the point.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
That's then other thing I was talking about earlier, to
have a radio station. You can't do it on peanut,
you know, and people think they can. I've had people
think they can and they don't even last a month.
You know, I have to basically to run my radio network.
I have to make fifty grand a month just.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
To breathe, just to breathe.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
You know that if you want to run a business,
you run it the right way. You have to invest
in your business and you have to build a bit listen.
Even Amazon Amazon Jeff Bezos started in the garage of
his home with some books.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Yeah okay, but.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Then as the money is coming, he's investing the money
and that and became the mega company it is today.
There's no mega company out there today that starts by
doing things.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
I'll say it. The cheap way.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
The cheap way is doing DIY. The cheap way is
going buying a cheap mic. The cheap way is not
paying for time.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
You know, you right, equipment and everything. I made this
very innovative kind because usually people sit on the chair
I am sitting. This is called a muddless because I
always give you culture of Islam because when we started,
you're thinking was because you have never met a Muslim
woman and you thought like all Muslims are terrorist. You know,
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but now you think that there is this girl who's
very peaceful. So I'm an example example to you. So
I made this innovative thing like Saudi, and I want
to rent the studio. So what is the renting business?
You know, like I can you know just this studio?
I rent per hour. I want to do that, but
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I haven't got any gigs yet, you know, So how
do I do that?
Speaker 4 (29:58):
You need money, that's the bottom line.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
And going back to what you said, I never thought
that about you, because here's my viewpoint is I've met
some great Muslims. I've lived for months at a time
in the Netherlands with all the Muslims in the area
I was living, it was all Muslim. It's such a
big lie in fallacy throughout the world. I want to
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say that right now since you brought it up. You know, listen,
the terrorists are fundamentalists and the stuff they're preaching isn't
even the Qoran.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
You know what's in the Quran. I've read the Koran.
The Qoran is.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
A peaceful book in my opinion from reading it. They
twist this crap around the terrorists and you know, listen,
my natural path that has helped me through a lot
of things.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
She's Persian. She practices Persian medicine, which is where the
Chinese got from.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
So you go for like ironic medication, that's what it's
called Indian.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
The world do that too, But she does a lot
of other things.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
And you know, it's all about food with her.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
And you know, Iranians and Jews are not supposed to
be friendly with each other, if it's up to the
powers that be and her and I talk about it
all the time. It's our governments that create this bullshit,
you know, to be blood, you know, because generally, you know,
we can get along.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
It's they want us fighting.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Even the whole situation going on right now over there,
it's all a bunch of bull crap to for people
to grab more power whatever they need and have us
hating each other. We're all human beings, we all have
our own things, and we're all very similar, you know.
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It's it's very interesting because we're all Middle Easterners. If
you're a Jew from Israel, you're a Middle Easterner. You know,
if you looked at an Israeli and you looked at Iranian,
you wouldn't know which was the Jew and which was
the Muslim, you know, And this is the problem that
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we have right now. And I brought it up because
I said, because you brought it up, because you know what,
there's a lot of protesting going on in this world,
and we need to just love each other, because you know,
you know what, all those powers of be are the
ones they're wrong, not us innocent people who just want
to like each other. I don't care if somebody what
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their religion is, what their race is, as long as
they are not intentionally trying to hurt somebody.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
They deserve to be who they are.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
And you know what, if you being a Muslim, or
some may be a Christian, or somebody be a Jew,
if that makes them a better person, that's the right
religion for them. You know, we don't have to believe
the same thing. But the one thing I do know
from reading all studying all religions is we all basically
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believe the same thing. We have just different takes on it.
What I loved most of all was so I also
as a Jew, I also have Buddhist philosophies. I love
Buddhist philosophies, you know, the whole positivity of it.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
The mind.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I'm also very much into the Kabbalah, which is all
about positivity.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
And power to mind.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
And you know, when I was in Bali, I went
into the Hindu temples and one particular one really made
me feel good because it was a combo Buddhist Hindu temple.
They shared it, and to me, that's an example for
the world. They didn't need to be segregated. There were
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two different religions or philosophies that are sharing the same
house of worship to do it differently, that's the way
we should all be together.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
I could tell you too, Like when I was in Bali.
You're gonna laugh this, okay, because Indonesia is a primarily
Muslim country, okay. And it was so funny because there
was a I heard this noise like I thought it
was a concert. It was like like eleven o'clock at night,
(34:18):
Like what is that? And I actually was like, well,
that sounds cool. I went outside and it turned out
that it was Muslim services. You know, you know, because
as you know, it's at different hours of the day
and it gets like it gets really loud, like I
got once I was there for a while, I'm like, oh, okay,
I get it now.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
I didn't know it at first.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
That's problem.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yeah, And you know, like I also, I've been to Istanbul,
and right outside the airport in Istanbul is one of
the most beautiful, most beautiful mosques, and like, I'm a
Jew and I walked into that mosque because I was
interested in it, like you know, and it looked nice
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and stuff.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
You don't have to like some Jews.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Some Muslims are like, oh, I wouldn't or Christians, I
wouldn't walk in there or whatever. Yeah, no, no, like
it was beautiful. And most of the Muslims, the true
Muslims that I know, are peaceful people that have a
strong belief in their religion. And I have no problem
(35:25):
with that if that strong belief is not about, you know,
hurting people, and the Koran does not teach you to
hurt people. And I wanted to spell that myth as
a Jew right here and now, because terrorists go by
their own agenda. And I'll tell you what I'm going
(35:47):
to say it right now. I don't know how you feel.
I'd like to hear how you feel, but blows my
mind how many people are pro Hamas in this world
that we're in right now, you know, and I think
even if I was as might be like the Hamas
and all the other terrorist organizations are just giving our
religion and our people a bad name.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
What's your feelings on that?
Speaker 3 (36:12):
I have one question our American policies. You know, it
feels like, you know, you are not that democratic anymore.
You know, you.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Are not what we never were.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
We never were democrat. That was the big lie. Where
a constitutional republic we always have been. If we're a democracy,
we wouldn't have just two uh parties, you know, and
we have more parties, but none of them really count.
They don't win ever. You know, it's a two party system.
And as long as you have the electoral college and
a two party system, you're not a true democracy. I
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find it amazing that we go out around the world
preaching democracy and we really don't have a true democracy.
We have a constitutional republic based on democratic values, but
not a true democracy. And we are turning. We are
turning more extreme, We're becoming the extremist. Here's that's what's interesting.
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On both sides. I'm a very middle road person. I
have both conservative and liberal viewpoints depending on what it is.
I hate the extremes, you know, I don't like the
alt right. I don't like the far left, and not
because they're left, not because they're right, because they're extremists that.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Just use it to hate people and to not be nice.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
So how do you think about reality shows? Because I
want to do some reality shows with you conducting it,
you know, like I want to show this a studio.
I want to show like my house, like I live
in a small place, my cupboard. I don't have a
big cupboard, but I have a lot of clothes, and
(37:57):
so I will talk to you in privately about about
that and all. So I want what do you think
about that kind of idea?
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Well, I like reality shows for I don't like to
watch them personally myself, but I think they're a great
idea and people can relate to it. And I've done
reality shows on my own show, and I think also
like I'd like to have my own reality show because
then I'll become the president of the United States of America.
(38:30):
I think that's a requirement. I think they're changing that
that's a requirement now to be the president.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Also, and he's so popular, you.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Know, yeah, And you know the fact is, the fact
is is to me, this whole division thing is ridiculous
because that's the powers that be, so they can get
what they want and divide us. It's the oldest trick
in the book, divide and conquer. You know what I say? Everybody,
(39:01):
you do you, as long as you're not hurting anybody intentionally,
you do you.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
You believe what you want to.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Believe, and let's all just love each other for our differences.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
I don't want to be around a bunch of clones.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Yes, yes, live and let live is the thing.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Yeah, everybody has reasons.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Yes. The other other thing is this that many people
are you know by Duras. They know that I live alone,
but Duras they want, you know, to be my co host.
You know, they're putting pressure on me. They are doing
threatening the calls and those kinds of stuff. So so
how do how would you deal with these kinds of
(39:42):
problems because you might be having the same problem, you know,
because you are a big host. Remember when we started,
there was some noise and bad words coming from India,
you know, somewhere. So how do you deal with those
kinds of Because I'm facing since my husband has died,
I am facing a lot of those kinds of problem. Up,
everyone you know, as soon as they see it's three
(40:02):
hundred million listeners, they want to just want to be
co host in my show. So what should I do
about it?
Speaker 1 (40:09):
First of all, I went and talk to them. Second
of all, you can invite them over to my place.
I'm on the thirty sixth floor and I'll throw them
off the balcony.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Okay, so if they if they threatened me, I will say,
go and talk to my producer. You know that's right.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
And then and then as I'm driving from where I
live to the studio, I'll drop them off at more
A Lago because I have to pass more Lago on
the way a studio, and I'll let I'll let them
handle them over at mar Lago.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
They'll they'll, they'll uh, they'll take good care of them.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
That fantastic. So you see that place every day?
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Well, I don't go to the studio every day anymore,
but yeah, I passed by there, and I you know
when you pass by also it's you have to pass
by the airport because it's right near the airport.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
And you see, I could see that place.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
You see Trump air Force one and you know, uh,
now we have the guitar and the guitar.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
The catar play is here.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
I don't know if it's here yet, but we're we're
going to have it, I guess.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Okay, So what else do you want to say to
my audience? And because we are just you know, going
to I.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Want to say that you are a phenomenal human being
and a phenomenal show host and we're glad to have
you here on the network. And I think you're listeners
that are listening right now, they're all very lucky people
that have people and people like you on their side.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Thank you so much, Dean, and what else?
Speaker 4 (41:41):
And that's in and that's in spite of rebel.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
So if you want, you know, people to contact you,
what is your contact information? And all? And yes, and
one thing more Internet. I like your podcast was number
one on Internet, so I want to touch that also
before we go.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Yeah, well, so we have number one ranked radio stations.
My podcast is ranked number two on Apple and I
also tour the world doing radio coverage at conferences, music festivals.
In fact, I just got back from two months and
I have a little bit of downtime.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
That's why you were lucky enough to get me.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
And uh and then next week I'm heading off to UK,
to Europe, to France. I have a festival in the
UK in France and then I'm also so there's.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Two days between those two festivals.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
So I'm hopping on a plane down for a couple
of days to Marrakesh.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
Okay, hopefully I'll be safe there being a Jew.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
You are into Moroccan girls. I know that because you
really like Moroccan girls. Am I not right about it?
Speaker 4 (42:55):
I don't know. Well, we'll find that when I get there.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
So it was nice meeting you. So this was my
wonderful producer, Dean Piper, and he gave me that chance
and I buy time from him and he's famous worldwide
and so you can contact him, you know, and please
give your contact information.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Yes, So you can find me on all socials under
pipe Man Radio, p I P E M A N Radio,
all socials, I'm on everything. You can also check out
my my show on iHeartRadio or anywhere you listen to podcasts.
(43:35):
It's also live Monday, Tuesdays and Wednesdays at one pm
Eastern Time on W four c Y Radio W four
c Y dot com and also talk for TV and
you can also catchu. I have a website, well, there's
websites for all the radio stations here, K four HD
dot com, W four c Y dot com, W four
(43:56):
WN dot com, K four HD dot com. Oh, that's here,
W four h C dot com, W four CS dot com.
And we have talkform Media which has all our podcasts
on there, and you get my website for my podcast
is the Adventures of Pipeman dot com. I also have
another one that's pipeman Radio dot com and an app
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Pipeman Radio, and there is an app for talkform Media,
and there's an app for all the stations, so there
is an app for that.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
And one thing more, the radio show. You know, if
I would say, they would think I'll come from the
heart mouth. It goes in every car of the world,
right if they.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Have Oh yeah, you can listen to our shows or
if you want to have broadcast your own show. You
can broadcast from anywhere in the world. We have clients
that do shows from all over the world. And uh,
you know, reach out to me. You can DM me,
you can you can email me at Dan at talkformmedia
dot com. If you want to do a show, we
(44:57):
can talk about it U and if you need marketing,
we can talk about that, And if you want a
sponsor off Sean show, call me because I'll sell you
because you should be a sponsor on her show.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
So just tell your number so people can call you.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
That's the I will. But it's dangerous because all the
girls like to call me. Ask Rebel, Ask Rebel what happens.
They even call into my radio show to buy my
fake group on. But my number is five six one.
It's US, so it's plus one if you're not in
the US five six one five zero six four zero
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three one. And I'll tell you what. We also do
ticket giveaways on the station for festivals and stuff like that.
But reach out to me. I know I can help you,
and I know off Shon can help you. And I
am very honored to be on your show here and
it's probably my best honor of the day. And I
(45:59):
ready did my show, so it's even more of an
honored than doing my own show.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
Thank you so much, Dean, you know I really appreciate that.
And folks player, this show is syndicated world wide two
three hundred millium listeners, so just you know this is
this is the guy you know to contact and buy time.
Having said that, folks tears. Oh, thank you Dean for
coming in my show, and it was an honor talking
to you. And I will be talking about that show,
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about that reality show. You know what I'm planning, you know,
so we will talk about it. Having said that, folks,
tears and bye bye and thank you Dean. Bye bye.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
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