Nutrition, health counselor, award-winning author, and show host, Nancy Addison talks with James Roguski a researcher, author, natural health proponent, and believer in freedom. James shares his new information concerning the WHO. The DEADLINE for nations to REJECT the the amendments to the International Health Regulations is fast approaching - Saturday, July 19, 2025. James expands on why he believes everyone should speak up and take action now.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
Welcome beautiful people to organic healthy lifestyle. And I'm Nancy Addison,
your host, and I always start off my show with
a prayer, So if you'll please join me in whichever
way you would like, it be great. Dear Divine Creator,
help us to remember those who need our prayers the
most and those who bless us with their lives. We
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pray and rejoice for a bright future together. Let us
embrace a healing perspective of peace and hope. Our state
of heart and mind rules our lives and makes a
difference for everyone. And we ask for your help in
all of these ways. And we ask this in the
highest good of all concerned, for everyone listening now and
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everyone listening in the future, and thank you. And so
it is, so everybody, let's just take a deep breath
and release any tension or stress in our mind and body,
and we're gonna have a great show today. But before
I introduce him because he's he's gonna be just a
few minutes late. I thought I would share with you
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this that my friend Mary and Delio shared with me today.
It was sent to her by Susan Mertz Anderson, and
it is called you have to be Bigger by Steve Taylor.
You have to be bigger than slights to find a deep,
essential self that can be damaged by disrespect, so that
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insults pass by without hurting you. You have to be
bigger than bitterness to let go of wrongs that you
can't correct and awaken so fully to the present that
past events no longer disturb you. You have to be
bigger than rivalry to see your peers as colleagues, not competitors,
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who share your goals and are part of the same
project that will only succeed through cooperation. You have to
be bigger than selfishness to live to contribute, not accumulate,
as if your life is a wide river that nourishes
the earth, not a road that cuts coldly through the land.
You have to be bigger than yourself to let the
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world's soul become your own soul, and the world's purpose
become your own purpose, until your own life merges with
life itself. I just thought that was very nice and anyway,
I wanted to share that with you. We have very
special guest one today. We have James Roguski on who
is just an amazing, courageous person who's been researching the
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WHO for I don't know how many years now. He's
an author, he's a natural health proponent, and he is
a believer of freedom and James, welcome to the show today.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Well, thank you very much for having me. I hope
you can hear me.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Fine, I can, I hear you great. Thank you so
much for joining us. I know this is actually a
very critical show because the International Health Regulations amendments they
need to be refused by Saturday, July nineteenth, twenty twenty five,
which is coming really fast and furiously. And so James,
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you've really been keeping up on all the shenanigans that
WHO has been doing since the very beginning. They don't
put up with any of their own rules. They are
basically funded by nonprofits that have an agenda with their
pharmaceutical agenda. And so I would love for you to
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share with everyone out there that you know what is
going on with these amendments in why we need to
all speak up and not and not be quiet, but
we need to speak up and let our people who
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are you know, going for this, let them know that
we are not in favor of it.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Well, first and foremost, let me make sure that people
do not fall into the idea of being afraid of
what's going on here. The last thing I ever want
to be seen as is some kind of fear longer,
you know, getting people to take action out of fear.
What's going on is way back more than a year ago.
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On June first, twenty twenty four, during the Biden iministration,
the member nations of the who got together. I feel
they broke all their rules. I think you kind of
mentioned that, and they adopted amendments to an existing International
Health regulation. The IHR goes all the way back to
nineteen sixty nine, and there's a period of time it
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works backwards from what most people would like to believe.
It's not Oh, the Senate would have to adopt this,
you know, give their advice and consent with two thirds majority. No no, no, no, no,
because it's an existing agreement. The ongoing agreement is any
amendments if they are adopted, which they were there's a
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period of time for each nation to send a letter
to the WHO and say, no, thank you, we recognize
that these amendments were adopted, but we reject them for
our nation. Now. I really do, honestly believe that President
Trump would thend such a letter if he was properly
(06:02):
briefed on the situation and say, well, you know, the
Biden administration agreed and adopted this back in twenty twenty four,
but thank you, but no, thank you, we reject them. Now.
Part of the problem is that, in my view, membership
in the WHO is one agreement. Being a party to
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the International Health Regulations is a separate agreement, and that
evidence for that is very clear. It's listed as a
separate agreement under the UN List of Treaties and so forth.
And two states, the Vatican and Liechtenstein, are parties to
the International Health Regulations, but they're not members of the WHO.
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So the fact that first day in office when Donald
Trump put out an executive order saying you know, we're
going to start the year long process to exit the WHO,
that's wonderful, but that's not the same as the International
Health Regulations, and it's an executive order that's not the
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same as an official letter notifying the who we reject
the amendment. So it's very simple, very clear. It really
is a one paragraph letter. Hey, who, how you doing.
You know, nice to communicate with you. We understand you've
got these amendments that were adopted. We're in office now.
(07:26):
Sorry to let you know we reject them. Have a
nice day.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
It's something that I think he would want to do.
But the problem is, you know, I don't have Donald
Trump on speed dial. I don't have a membership at
mar Lago. I don't have easy access to the White House.
I don't have the President's here. And this actually is
the problem that we all have. You're a congress person,
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your senator, your mayor, your governor, whatever. They're listening to somebody,
but it isn't us. And so our quote quote representative
democratic aspect of our republic has been broken. Our people
who are supposed to be speaking for us are not
listening to us. They're listening to donors or special interest lobbyists,
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or they're listening to somebody. And those who have the
ear of our leaders are keeping this information. You buy it.
The media is not talking about it, and you know,
how do we the people get our leaders to understand
what it is we want and demand that they do
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what we want, not what oligarchs or corporate powers or
non government organizations who have been given a seat at
the table. The WHO has a list of four hundred
relevant stakeholders who were able to participate in these negotiations
for the amendments, but there was never a public comment period.
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There was never an ability for the people because the
WHO does not listen to people. They like to talk
like they do, but they are an organization of nations,
and those nations send delegates to their yearly meeting. But
all year long they're receiving donations and input from all
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of these non government agencies like Bill and Melinda Gates
and Bobby and even the Rotary International Organization donates millions
and millions of dollars to the WHL. They listen to
their donors and they do what's in the best interest
of their donors. They're not really working for the overall
health of with people.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Oh my goodness, that is such a great explanation. Thank
you so much, James. And I would, I mean, I
don't think you're anything like, you know, a negative person.
At all. I think you just really are aware of
so many of the little news that have been going on,
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and you've been so great about sharing that information with
us so that we can act on it.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Let me go a little further. All that information is
available on reject the Amendments dot com. Reject the Amendments
dot com. You know me, I always give my phone number.
My phone numbers three one zero six, one nine, three
zero five five, three one zero six, one nine, three
zero five five. You can call or text, or use
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telegram or WhatsApp or signal or whatever other you know
means you want to communicate. This is not the end
of this you know effort. This is just another deadline
that if we get government leaders around the world to
take action, we can count that as a tiny little victory.
(10:54):
And the bigger issue is not whether or not the
amendments get a adopted or the fact that they're even
our regulations, or that the WHO is still as we
speak negotiating and an additional agreement, the Pandemic Agreement. Even
if all of those agreements were wiped off the planet
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and the WHO disappeared, we're still going to be dealing
with the pharmaceutical hospital emergency industrial complex, and the problem
is really looking back at you in the mirror. If
at any point in time you're not feeling well, if
your first instinct is, oh, I've got to go to
the emergency room or urgent care, or make a doctor's appointment,
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get a prescription to take a drug, or get injected
with a vaccine to protect you from whatever your symptoms
may be, you are the problem. You're feeding the beast
because you're not taking responsibility for your health and choosing
to change something to keep you in balance. And so
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when people look in the mirror and they realize, wait
a minute, I am the person who is responsible for
my health. If you've listened to too many ads in
the United States that say, ask your doctor if this
poison is right for you, you know, ask your doctor, Ask
your doctor. Ask your doctor. If you've been programmed to
believe that you're not the most knowledgeable person about your
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own health, and you bear complete responsibility for maintaining your
own health. It's not your doctor, it's not a hospital,
it's not a clinic, it's not your insurance company. It's you.
You start making better choice, and so the who can
come and go any international group or lobbyist or non
government agency or state county health department. That's not who
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is ultimately responsible for you. And as long as we
keep giving them our energy and our money, they're going
to keep growing. So do what you can to spread
the word I have on my page. You know, you
can call the White House. You know, I think I've
got the number down the memory, but I'm not going
to trust my memory in this particular case. If you
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go to reject the amendments dot com, the very first
thing you're going to see is that you can call
to zero two four or five six one four one four.
I'm actually a little bit impressed you actually get a
real generally, you get a real operator and you say, hey,
I'd like to be connected to people who will receive
a thirty second comment. Please pass it on to the President.
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They'll patch you through. You might have to wait. You
might be you know, five people in line in front
of you, or there may be fifty people in line
in front of you, whatever it may be. And you know,
tell them that you want the President to reject the
amendments to the International Health Regulations before the deadline on Saturday.
It's your obligation to speak up. If you're silent, then
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that's see to be acceptance compliance. Silence is consent, respectfully,
you know, call me, leave a comment and let them
know what you want. If one comment comes in, you know,
maybe somebody in the White House gets notified. But if
a thousand of them come in, you know somebody's going
to go, hey, what the heck is going on?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Guys? Such great advice.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Well, you know, Benny Benny commented, you know, if we
do call the White House, do they start tapping our lines?
Do you honestly believe that all of your lines are
not currently tapped right now, and that they have a
recording through the phone company, have everything you've ever said
or done on email and phone and text message. You
can worry about that, or you can take action out
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of courage and state your case. You know, it's up
to you. You can live in fear, or you can
live in being encouraged to take advantage of your First
Amendment right to freedom of speech. If you don't speak up,
you know, your silence is viewed as consent.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Absolutely. In fact, by law, they count it as consent,
and you can if you don't want to call them,
I mean, could probably use a public phone, or you
could even email them. I emailed the White House, in
the State Department, in mcgovernor, in my Secretary of State.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Quite frankly, I have the opposite view. I was quite
disappointed that they would not take my contact information. You know.
I started to say, you know, if there's any questions,
you can reach me at whatever, and they got no, no, no,
we don't do that, which was quite frankly disappointing. So
there isn't going to be necessarily any feedback because they don't,
(15:34):
you know, take your information down. Of course they have
your number. But more to the point going forward, Okay,
I've been saying for two and a half years, I
want to get out of the WHO and on with
the new. You know, what is it that we want?
Do we want more drugs and more PCR tests sud
up our nose? Do we want more treatments like ventilators
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that you know, just have killed many people. Do we
want more poisonous instances like brehm desevere? Do we want
to reward and incentivize that by having the government pay
thousands and thousands of dollars for these treatments that cause
death and destruction, not to mention. You know the mRNA platform,
which I think is a biological weapon. What is it
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that we want instead? Each individual person has to make
that choice and and you know, work towards it to
make the world be you know, in your vision of
what you the world that you want to live in
in the future.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I so agree with you, James, that is such good advice.
And I you know, it is time for us to
you know, we don't want to have another fake demick
come on, and you know they are ready to set
up as many fake dimicks as they need to do
what they want to do. Tracy's asking if your voices
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really have any power to be heard?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Well, you know, while I have had some experiences that
I think are very intuitive and all most psychic. You know,
sometimes you're connected to somebody and you you finish each
other's sentences. If you don't let the sound come out
of your mouth, they're not going to hear what's bouncing
around inside your head. So your voice that is unspoken
(17:14):
will absolutely not be heard. If you fulfill your obligation
of you know, putting it out on social media, putting
it out in a phone call or an email or
a text message, if you do what you're supposed to do,
which is to speak your mind and speak it into existence.
Then you can say, well, they're at fault for not listening,
but if you don't speak, you're at fault for not speaking.
(17:37):
And so, you know, is it any wonder that you're
you know, your representative, your congress person, your senator, or
any other level down, if all they ever hear from
are their donors or their lobbyists, you know, special interest lobbyists,
who are you know, setting up appointments and and you know,
maybe donating and bribing or whatever you want to call it.
(17:57):
If all your representatives ever here are those voices, we
collectively have to come together and you know, raise our
voice even louder and get more people to speak up.
I do think they listen. They may not listen to
one voice. But think about it on your own level, Okay.
If you get an email and somebody send you an email,
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I mean I spend an hour every morning just trying
to catch up with the emails behind that I am overnight, Okay,
And so you give a nanosecond when somebody sends you
an email. If somebody if you get the same information
from twenty different people in an email, you're like, hey,
everybody's talking about this. What that you know? Maybe I
should look at it. Maybe I didn't look at the
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first one. Maybe I didn't look at the second one.
But if it keeps coming, you're like, Okay, something's going on?
What the heck's going on? If you get a text message,
are you more likely to actually read it? If you
get a phone call, are you more likely to maybe
listen to the voicemail message that was left behind? If
you get five phone calls and five different people, Oh,
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did you hear about this? Okay? If you get a letter,
you get a handwritten letter in the mail, does that
catch you by surprise? Oh? My god? Do I even
remember how to read cursive? You know, let alone write it?
What if you get a registered letter, certified mail? Okay?
What if you get five of them? What if somebody
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knocks on your door, and then later in the day
somebody else knocks on your door, and all your neighbors
are telling you, hey, something's going on. It may not
happen with just one and it may not happen with
just an email or a text message or a letter,
or a knock on the door or a phone call.
But collectively, when you're being badgered by people saying, hey,
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are you going to do this, or you're going to
do this, or you're going to do it. It might
be going to a party, it might be, you know,
being something that's going on in the neighborhood. It might
be anything. It piles up and it does have an impact.
But you have to be that drop of rain water
that contributes to the flood. Now, maybe that's a bad
analogy after what happened in Texas, but you know, if
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you look at it from the point of view of
every single individual rain drop that fell during a flood,
it looks insignificant. But when there's enough of them, you
can cause a problem and you can get the attention
of your government officials. But if everybody gets now, I
don't feel like raining on their parade today, I don't
feel like speaking up. I don't feel like sending an email.
(20:23):
Then you have a drought and nothing happened. So I
can ramble on for days. But you know, the point
of it here is if this is the first time
that you're being made aware of something that's been going
on for several years, now, you have to ask yourself,
you know, what is the media doing that they were
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able to keep this a secret from me. If you
were unaware of this deadline before now, or you know,
maybe before last week or whenever you go, how is
it that this information is being hidden by all of
the stories that may be in the media. You know,
is this more important than what you're being distracted by?
(21:04):
And why are they distracting you with whatever it is
you're being distracted by, and why are they not reporting
on this? So, you know, thank you very much for
giving me the opportunity to talk about this. You know,
you're not hiding it, you're not burying it, You're talking
about it. And we've had many many conversations over the
past couple of years. What is media doing, what are
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they not doing and why? So any specific questions, Nancy
that you might have.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
So I just want to add to that because that
was an awesome answer. But I understood I heard this
years years ago because I'm from a family of lawyers
and judges and people like that, and they're all friends
with judges and things. But when one of these public
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officials get a like a letter or a phone call
or whatever, they actually attribute that to Repri's inn Probably
ten thousand people say, figure, if one person is thinking this,
then you know that's probably you know, equivalent to that
many people out there who are not speaking yet thinking that.
(22:15):
So you know, I would say, you know, be a
part of the the I mean, in some ways, I
want to compare it to the Revolutionary War. If if
those people didn't stand up against a tyrannic government, then
we wouldn't have America.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Let me take what you said and kind of merge
it with a comment from I think it's Danny. He said,
do you feel that they were dismissing you by not
taking my information? And did they even pass along the
request like what you said, Nancy. I've been told from
people who have worked in you know, congressional offices that
when they receive an automated email, like you go to
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somebody's website, you push a button and sends an email
that they know that that's all, you know, cookie cutter,
carbon copy, you know, very simple done, and so you
know they count that maybe as one as opposed to
ten thousand. If you get an email that comes through
their contact form and it's unique and different, you know
they count that as a constituent. Obviously, if you get
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a phone call and you can actually interact and talk
with a person. You know, that has more impact if
you call and set up a meeting and go to
their office and you know, sit down and try to
share that information with a real life human being, all
the better. If you show up with ten people behind
you and they're all saying the same thing, you know,
that counts even more. I think with that, to answer
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Danny's question, I was pleased that there's a pathway to
leave a comment. I think the person who's taking my
comment is doing their job and is most likely passing
it on to some higher up, you know, manager of
some sort. And I would like to believe that if
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they see that there are dozens and hundreds and thousands
of people going, hey, this is the problem, this is
our opinion about it, that that'll move up to the
next level. Does it get to the point where the
State Department is going to write that letter and put
it in front of Donald Trump and have them sign
it and do a little press conference about it and
(24:29):
make a you know, social media play about it. Well,
we shall see. And I hope so they either do
it or they don't. And if they do it, you know,
we'll know, and if they fail, then we're going to
have to realize that this is the core problem that
I think I mentioned earlier. If you reach out and
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you speak your mind, and you let your representative know
what it is you want, and you have a bunch
of allies who are doing the same thing and they listen, well,
good on you and good on them. Okay, if they
vote the way you want them to vote. If they
speak up about something, that's great. If they don't, well,
bad on you if you didn't say anything, and bad
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on them if you did say something and they ignored you.
Listen to somebody else. Now, sometimes you're in the minority
and the other side's got thousands of people making phone calls.
But I don't think people are calling the White House going,
oh yeah, we love these amendments. Just you know, don't
do anything and let it pass, let it go through,
let it continue. I don't think there's a constituency for that. So,
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you know, make a phone call today, make a phone
call tomorrow, and make another one on you know, Friday
the next day. But more importantly, let it be known
to your circle of influence, your friends, your family, social media,
whatever it may be that you know, I think I
got my start in political thinking back in I think
(25:57):
it was nineteen ninety four. I found myself working on
a project at a local TV station in Rhode Island,
and what I was advocating for was that the TV
station have sort of a public calendar of Hey, there's
going to be a city council meeting on Tuesday, and
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there's going to be a school board meeting on Wednesday,
and there's going to be a car show on Main
Street on the weekend, or you know, whatever it might be.
Because I got sick and tired of listening to news
that had happened and I missed it, Like, don't tell
me what happened after it happens, you know, give me
a chance to participate by letting me know before there's
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a deadline. So that's what we're doing. Now, Hey, there's
a deadline, and now's the time to speak up. And
I got an amazing amount of pushback from the station
man got into a very heated discussion and I, why
in the world would you argue about that? Well, he
called a break in the meeting, and he pulled me aside.
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He was fifteen years older than me and very condescending.
He puts his arm around me, he goes, let me
help you out, kiddo, and I'll clean it up for
your show. Nancy. I won't say exactly what he said
he said, but he said, we don't give an f
about our viewers. Our advertisers pay the bills around here,
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do you undersday? And that was the point where I
just stopped paying attention to mainstream media because I realized
that that was the truth. They do what their donors,
meaning their advertisers, want them to do. They don't care
about you. They don't deliver the news. They delivered a
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very curated version of information that serves the benefit of
the people who pay them advertising money. And if you
think television and mainstream media is ever going to be
anything other than that, you didn't have the benefit of
that experience that I had. That changed my view forever.
You have to understand why they're presenting the information that
(28:03):
they're presenting. Now. I don't know who pays your bills, Nancy,
I don't know who advertise. You know what advertising groups
you can take money from. Then, but if you think
about it, if your if your presentation was dependent upon
you know, pick a company you see it. A lot
of people are advertising gold and silver, and they're advertising
(28:26):
you know, prepper materials and you know, preserved food, you know,
to get you through the apocalypse or whatever. Do you
think you're ever going to hear those people say anything
bad about the companies that are sponsoring their programs. Probably not, Okay,
And so one of the things I'm working on, and
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I encourage people to reach out and connect with me.
Here's an idea that I have in development, and Nancy,
if you or anybody else wants to help work on it.
Has anybody ever held a magazine TV guide in their hand?
Speaker 2 (29:04):
You know, I forgot about those. I haven't watched TV
in like twenty years.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Okay, but you know what I'm talking about. One of
the things I'm working on is a TV guide for
alternative media. Okay, it's you know, twelve thirty about Pacific
time here today right now as we're recording this, if
I wanted to watch something at one o'clock specific time,
how would I know what to watch? And so any
(29:30):
organization that has a regularly scheduled program I mean, think
about it. We're up against massive mainstream media programming. We
need to schedule counter programming. Do you want to watch
mainstream or do you want to watch somebody else? And
I think one of the problems that is out there
is the alternative media doesn't have, you know, their version
(29:53):
of the TV guide. What what do people do? I mean,
I remember from back in the day, I haven't had
a television for a decade and a half at least.
You turn on the TV when you're in the mood
to watch something. You get out the remote control and
you go through the five hundred stations to see if
there's something you want to watch, and it's all based
on well, what time is it. Okay, you're sitting here
in front of the TV. What is it you want
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to watch? And the alternative media is so many millions
of different people doing their own thing. We need that
type of structure and so you know, it's just one
of the projects that I'm working on. And you know,
happy to add you to the list. If you have
a regularly scheduled program that you livestream or if you
know of one, you know, there you go those days
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at three pm, you know, we're going to add you
to the list. And this is this is wonderful, And
so you know, the whole point of it is there's
many things that individual people can do, whether it's making
for better healthcare, better media better you know, financing, better work,
you know, all kinds of things. We all need to
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come together and get better connected to put forth the
ideas that we can do on a grassroot spaces because
the solutions are not coming from the top down. They're
they're causing the problems. And that's that's a lesson I
learned from a plumber that I worked with. You know why,
I'll say excrement flows downhill, it is because they make
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it at the top, and we have to build solutions
on a local basis from the bottom up. And you know,
anybody who's interested in working on that, you know, please
get in touch with me.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Thank you so much. That's just you're a fascinating person.
I had a couple of questions for you about these
amendments and the who and everything are these amendments? Is
this going to override our government being able to veto
it if they decide on something spontaneously out of the
(31:53):
top of their hat that oh, we're going to have
an emergency now, and you know we're gonna have another
fake pandemic and is this one of those that is
going to override any government approval or would it have
to go through approval because I know some of them
actually override any government's constitution.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Well, that is not the case what you just said last.
And so there has been uh and this is why
I started off the way I did. There has been
an awful lot of fear mongering. And let me see
if I can summarize it as clearly as possible. What
the amendments are is primarily the beginning foundation of what
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I think is a very corrupt business deal. They're trying
to set up a global cartel to control the response.
From the viewpoint of number one, they have defined relevant
health product. So I will say that if they had
put into the definition of relevant health products, oh, herbs
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and vitamins and minerals and organic foods and good clean
water and homeopathic remedies and Chinese medicines and things like that,
if those were the things that they were saying everyone
should have access to and we want money to flow
so that everybody, you know, gets these fundamental bits of
nutrition or whatever, I'd be like, m darn, you know,
(33:24):
I might agree with you. No, none of that is
to be seen. It's never even been spoken of. They're
not talking about anything like that. It's all pharmaceutical products,
diagnostic tests, which the PCR is a fraudulent use of
the technology, devices like you know, ventilators, and drugs like remdessevere.
And they also added into the definition gene based therapy. Well,
(33:49):
I'm sorry, but the answer to preventing an outbreak of
some contageous disease are not pharmaceutical products and gene altering injection.
That is not the solution. That's the pathway to redistributing
wealth to the companies that are producing those products. That's
what these are primarily about. They also add in not
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just the ability for the Director General of the WHO
to declare a public health Emergency of International concern e
HEIC or fake did you not right? They added up
They added a whole other level called the pandemic emergence.
And if you read through the definition that they have adopted,
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it's just because he says so there's no evidence needed,
there's no data, there's no committee that is reporting, and
they have all this evidence, and so he's got to
do it and there's no way to turn it off.
It's basically saying he gets to declare that there's a
fake and I called the other one a super fake.
But they call it a pandemic emergency. And it's all
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about fearmah. It's all about saying, oh, okay, now we
can justify having contracts go out for more of these
pharmaceutical products because the Director General said there's an emergency. Now,
that is not an order that nations have to follow,
but it ultimately becomes an excuse that they use to
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try to justify their own declaration of emergency. So literally,
and I think we've talked about this a couple of
years ago. On the very last day of last full
day of the Obama administration January nineteenth, twenty seventeen, day
before Trump was inaugurated, the first time the CDC published
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final rulings, and one of the things that they redefined
was the criteria that would allow the Secretary of Health
and Human Services to declare in the United States a
public health emergency. And essentially, the Secretary of Health and
Human Services can say, well, the who declared an emergency,
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so we can too. It could be halfway on the
other side of the planet. It could be tiny, it
could be no real problem that has any impact on
our lives. But that's all the justification they would need. Now,
that's not the same as an order, that's an opportunity.
And so the real if you go back over the
past five years, our government didn't need any stinking amendments
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to the international health regulations. They didn't need any pandemic
agreement to attempt to infringe upon our rights and freedom.
They declared emergencies, they claim emergency powers. They talk about
mandates and lockdowns and travel restrictions and all these many things.
That's not because the WHO said so. That's because the
WHO said what they said, and our local government officials
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didn't listen to us. They listened to them and they said, oh,
here's what we're going to do. And quite frankly, they
probably went way beyond any thing that the WHO would
have recommended and did stricter lockdowns and mandates and all
that sort of stuff. So the battle is always local.
And I think Paula said, why do they get away
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with doing this this way because we collectively let them.
We listen to the media who is lying or hiding
things on their behalf, and they sneak things through the way.
It's structured. If they just procrastinate and you know the
word that I pronounced differently, If they are just ignorant
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and we are ignorant of what's going on because we're
distracted by the media, time passes, and like at a
wedding when they say, anybody who objects to this marriage,
you know, speak now or forever holds your peace. That's
the situation we're in right now. The deadline is July nineteenth.
Speak now or miss your opportunity. But that doesn't mean
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it's over. Continue to get informed, continue to pay attention
to what these groups are doing. Continue to speak up
when you are in opposition to something, and speak to
the people who have the authority to do something about
it and demand that they take the action that needs
to be taken. If we don't speak up, it's our fault.
If we speak up and they don't listen, then it's
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their fault.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yes, yes, thank you. And you know, I just want
to say the Director General of the World Health Organization
is is not even a medical doctor. And he's also
been accused by people of actually directing Ethiopia's security forces
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and actions between twenty thirteen and twenty fifteen, and he
was accused of, over that period of time, of directing
the security service that was killing and torturing Ethiopians, so,
you know, causing genocide. So you know, he's not this.
(38:56):
You know, he's not an angel. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
That brings up a very esoteric little something that you know,
I don't even begin to know what it really means.
But in the list of four hundred relevant stakeholder who
are given the opportunity to present input into all of
these negotiations, the one that jumped out at me the
most was Ethiopian Airlines. Now, why in the world would
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Ethiopian airlines be allowed to seat at the table for
the International Health Regulation. Well, there's actually a point to it.
I encourage people, now, you know, raise your hand if
you've actually read the International Health Regulations. I'm sure the
vast majority of people have probably never even heard of them.
But some of the amendments that they put forth have
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an impact on what they call conveyance operators, airlines, cruise boats,
they call those conveyances. Well, one of the amendments that
they put in was that they want nations to make
sure that conveyance operators implement I'll give one example, I've
put it on Rejected Amendments dot com. There's plenty of
(40:11):
videos online where people who have taken a flight, and
airline flight, they get locked into the cabin and before
they take off or before they land, the flight attendants
walk up and down the aisles spraying insecticide inside the cabin. Well.
That's one of the measures that was mentioned and added
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in these amendments. They want them to do that when
people are embarking and disembarking from their travels. They also
added in the ability to quarantine people on their conveyance.
So they want, you know, airlines and cruise ships to
test people on demand, and if somebody on the front
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row of the cruise boat doesn't pass a test, you're
literally the terminology that they have in the HR is
you could be considered a suspect and you could be
quarantined just because you're on the same boat. And so
in the International Health Regulations, this is not an amendment,
this is the existing one. In article thirty one, it's
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very funny, that funny in a sick way. That doublespeak
is amazing. Article thirty one, paragraph one says, you know,
nations really shouldn't require paperwork and vaccines and all that
sort of stuff in order to be able to travel.
But paragraph two says unless you want to, and then
it goes on to say that if you're a traveler
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and you're in a foreign country, that nation can do
anything they want to you. They can make you be tested,
they can give you therapy or treatment, and they can
require you to be vaccinated. People don't know that that
is the existing agreement in the International Health Regulation. And
then they added on braying insecticides and quarantine and so
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forth and so on. So these agreements are being made
by delegates who go to these negotiations and they adopt
them without really paying attention to the to the details.
And you know, our governments just rubber stamped them, and
nobody's none the wiser until you find yourself in a
predicament and you wonder how you got yourself stuck, you know,
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locked up in quarantine or being told that you have
to have this, that or the other thing done to you.
These things are not acceptable, and you know, ignorance is
not bliss. You know, ignorance is very very dangerous, and
so you know, Nancy, thanks again for the opportunity to
share some of this information.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Oh well, I'm thrilled to have you here. I can't
believe our time is already up. I mean we literally
have like three minutes. And Paul is asking how they
get away with this, and they get away with it
by people not speaking up or doing anything about it.
And James are so grateful for you to come on
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and share this with with everyone. James's contact information is
substack dot com, slash the Little sign at and it's
James Rogusky. And I highly recommend everybody taking no matter
where you are around the world, take action on this.
Be strong, be brave, and stand up for what you
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believe in and what you feel is right. You know
so many of these things in the amendments, I mean
I know some of them. They actually had them taken out,
weren't even in them when they first gave them to
everybody as required, and they didn't do it in the
required amount of time, and then when it was being
voted on, they stuck it in, secretly stuck it in,
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and I just you know, it's just unconscionable how they
do this. And yes they're spraying poison. Iso is saying,
yes they're spraying poison on you inside the aircraft.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
If you go to Reject the Amendments dot com and
scroll down the page on that article, you'll see a
couple of videos. And I'm sure you can go on
YouTube or other video platforms and you know, do light
attendance spraying passengers with insecticide and you'll be appalled. Now,
it maybe doesn't happen on domestic flights. It's to certain
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countries and certain times and whatever, but you may or
may not be informed that that's going to happen on
a given flight that you may find yourself on. And
you know, quite frankly, if you understand the law of
the sea, you know the captain is the king of
the castle or whatever you want to call it on
any international voyage, your bill of rights, and you know
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rights and freedoms don't apply on the high seas. And
they know that, and so they know how to take
advantage of you.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Thank you so much, James for joining us today. I'm
so grateful for you sharing this great information with everyone.
And yes, those poisons cause nerve damage and you are
breathing that in as well as soaking them in through
your skin, which goes straight to your bloodstream. So really
serious things. And James good, I hope we all stand
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together and go with you and speaking up and letting
our voice be heard. And James, just one quick, tiny
little parting thought for our listeners if you could please well.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
You know, wind loser draw, It's always going to remain
the same problem. You know, we have a responsibility to
stand up and speak up for ourselves. Don't count on
some savior coming down to you know, rescue you, some
politician or party or whatever. Take the action that makes
sense to you and your local community and do which
you can to make the world a better place. And
you know, if you want to talk about that, reach
(45:45):
out to me anytime.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, and everyone. I will
talk to you next week and stay strong. And James
and I wish you great peace and strength and great health.
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Welcome beautiful people to organic healthy lifestyle. And I'm Nancy Addison,
your host, and I always start off my show with
a prayer, So if you'll please join me in whichever
way you would like, it be great. Dear Divine Creator,
help us to remember those who need our prayers the
most and those who bless us with their lives. We
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pray and rejoice for a bright future together. Let us
embrace a healing perspective of peace and hope. Our state
of heart and mind rules our lives and makes a
difference for everyone. And we ask for your help in
all of these ways. And we ask this in the
highest good of all concerned, for everyone listening now and
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everyone listening in the future, and thank you. And so
it is, so everybody, let's just take a deep breath
and release any tension or stress in our mind and body,
and we're gonna have a great show today. But before
I introduce him because he's he's gonna be just a
few minutes late. I thought I would share with you
(01:41):
this that my friend Mary and Delio shared with me today.
It was sent to her by Susan Mertz Anderson, and
it is called you have to be Bigger by Steve Taylor.
You have to be bigger than slights to find a deep,
essential self that can be damaged by disrespect, so that
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insults pass by without hurting you. You have to be
bigger than bitterness to let go of wrongs that you
can't correct and awaken so fully to the present that
past events no longer disturb you. You have to be
bigger than rivalry to see your peers as colleagues, not competitors,
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who share your goals and are part of the same
project that will only succeed through cooperation. You have to
be bigger than selfishness to live to contribute, not accumulate,
as if your life is a wide river that nourishes
the earth, not a road that cuts coldly through the land.
You have to be bigger than yourself to let the
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world's soul become your own soul, and the world's purpose
become your own purpose, until your own life merges with
life itself. I just thought that was very nice and anyway,
I wanted to share that with you. We have very
special guest one today. We have James Roguski on who
is just an amazing, courageous person who's been researching the
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WHO for I don't know how many years now. He's
an author, he's a natural health proponent, and he is
a believer of freedom and James, welcome to the show today.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Well, thank you very much for having me. I hope
you can hear me.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Fine, I can, I hear you great. Thank you so
much for joining us. I know this is actually a
very critical show because the International Health Regulations amendments they
need to be refused by Saturday, July nineteenth, twenty twenty five,
which is coming really fast and furiously. And so James,
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you've really been keeping up on all the shenanigans that
WHO has been doing since the very beginning. They don't
put up with any of their own rules. They are
basically funded by nonprofits that have an agenda with their
pharmaceutical agenda. And so I would love for you to
(04:08):
share with everyone out there that you know what is
going on with these amendments in why we need to
all speak up and not and not be quiet, but
we need to speak up and let our people who
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are you know, going for this, let them know that
we are not in favor of it.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Well, first and foremost, let me make sure that people
do not fall into the idea of being afraid of
what's going on here. The last thing I ever want
to be seen as is some kind of fear longer,
you know, getting people to take action out of fear.
What's going on is way back more than a year ago.
(04:56):
On June first, twenty twenty four, during the Biden iministration,
the member nations of the who got together. I feel
they broke all their rules. I think you kind of
mentioned that, and they adopted amendments to an existing International
Health regulation. The IHR goes all the way back to
nineteen sixty nine, and there's a period of time it
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works backwards from what most people would like to believe.
It's not Oh, the Senate would have to adopt this,
you know, give their advice and consent with two thirds majority. No no, no, no, no,
because it's an existing agreement. The ongoing agreement is any
amendments if they are adopted, which they were there's a
(05:40):
period of time for each nation to send a letter
to the WHO and say, no, thank you, we recognize
that these amendments were adopted, but we reject them for
our nation. Now. I really do, honestly believe that President
Trump would thend such a letter if he was properly
(06:02):
briefed on the situation and say, well, you know, the
Biden administration agreed and adopted this back in twenty twenty four,
but thank you, but no, thank you, we reject them. Now.
Part of the problem is that, in my view, membership
in the WHO is one agreement. Being a party to
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the International Health Regulations is a separate agreement, and that
evidence for that is very clear. It's listed as a
separate agreement under the UN List of Treaties and so forth.
And two states, the Vatican and Liechtenstein, are parties to
the International Health Regulations, but they're not members of the WHO.
(06:45):
So the fact that first day in office when Donald
Trump put out an executive order saying you know, we're
going to start the year long process to exit the WHO,
that's wonderful, but that's not the same as the International
Health Regulations, and it's an executive order that's not the
(07:06):
same as an official letter notifying the who we reject
the amendment. So it's very simple, very clear. It really
is a one paragraph letter. Hey, who, how you doing.
You know, nice to communicate with you. We understand you've
got these amendments that were adopted. We're in office now.
(07:26):
Sorry to let you know we reject them. Have a
nice day.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
It's something that I think he would want to do.
But the problem is, you know, I don't have Donald
Trump on speed dial. I don't have a membership at
mar Lago. I don't have easy access to the White House.
I don't have the President's here. And this actually is
the problem that we all have. You're a congress person,
(07:50):
your senator, your mayor, your governor, whatever. They're listening to somebody,
but it isn't us. And so our quote quote representative
democratic aspect of our republic has been broken. Our people
who are supposed to be speaking for us are not
listening to us. They're listening to donors or special interest lobbyists,
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or they're listening to somebody. And those who have the
ear of our leaders are keeping this information. You buy it.
The media is not talking about it, and you know,
how do we the people get our leaders to understand
what it is we want and demand that they do
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what we want, not what oligarchs or corporate powers or
non government organizations who have been given a seat at
the table. The WHO has a list of four hundred
relevant stakeholders who were able to participate in these negotiations
for the amendments, but there was never a public comment period.
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There was never an ability for the people because the
WHO does not listen to people. They like to talk
like they do, but they are an organization of nations,
and those nations send delegates to their yearly meeting. But
all year long they're receiving donations and input from all
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of these non government agencies like Bill and Melinda Gates
and Bobby and even the Rotary International Organization donates millions
and millions of dollars to the WHL. They listen to
their donors and they do what's in the best interest
of their donors. They're not really working for the overall
health of with people.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Oh my goodness, that is such a great explanation. Thank
you so much, James. And I would, I mean, I
don't think you're anything like, you know, a negative person.
At all. I think you just really are aware of
so many of the little news that have been going on,
(10:02):
and you've been so great about sharing that information with
us so that we can act on it.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Let me go a little further. All that information is
available on reject the Amendments dot com. Reject the Amendments
dot com. You know me, I always give my phone number.
My phone numbers three one zero six, one nine, three
zero five five, three one zero six, one nine, three
zero five five. You can call or text, or use
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telegram or WhatsApp or signal or whatever other you know
means you want to communicate. This is not the end
of this you know effort. This is just another deadline
that if we get government leaders around the world to
take action, we can count that as a tiny little victory.
(10:54):
And the bigger issue is not whether or not the
amendments get a adopted or the fact that they're even
our regulations, or that the WHO is still as we
speak negotiating and an additional agreement, the Pandemic Agreement. Even
if all of those agreements were wiped off the planet
(11:14):
and the WHO disappeared, we're still going to be dealing
with the pharmaceutical hospital emergency industrial complex, and the problem
is really looking back at you in the mirror. If
at any point in time you're not feeling well, if
your first instinct is, oh, I've got to go to
the emergency room or urgent care, or make a doctor's appointment,
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get a prescription to take a drug, or get injected
with a vaccine to protect you from whatever your symptoms
may be, you are the problem. You're feeding the beast
because you're not taking responsibility for your health and choosing
to change something to keep you in balance. And so
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when people look in the mirror and they realize, wait
a minute, I am the person who is responsible for
my health. If you've listened to too many ads in
the United States that say, ask your doctor if this
poison is right for you, you know, ask your doctor, Ask
your doctor. Ask your doctor. If you've been programmed to
believe that you're not the most knowledgeable person about your
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own health, and you bear complete responsibility for maintaining your
own health. It's not your doctor, it's not a hospital,
it's not a clinic, it's not your insurance company. It's you.
You start making better choice, and so the who can
come and go any international group or lobbyist or non
government agency or state county health department. That's not who
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is ultimately responsible for you. And as long as we
keep giving them our energy and our money, they're going
to keep growing. So do what you can to spread
the word I have on my page. You know, you
can call the White House. You know, I think I've
got the number down the memory, but I'm not going
to trust my memory in this particular case. If you
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go to reject the amendments dot com, the very first
thing you're going to see is that you can call
to zero two four or five six one four one four.
I'm actually a little bit impressed you actually get a
real generally, you get a real operator and you say, hey,
I'd like to be connected to people who will receive
a thirty second comment. Please pass it on to the President.
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They'll patch you through. You might have to wait. You
might be you know, five people in line in front
of you, or there may be fifty people in line
in front of you, whatever it may be. And you know,
tell them that you want the President to reject the
amendments to the International Health Regulations before the deadline on Saturday.
It's your obligation to speak up. If you're silent, then
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that's see to be acceptance compliance. Silence is consent, respectfully,
you know, call me, leave a comment and let them
know what you want. If one comment comes in, you know,
maybe somebody in the White House gets notified. But if
a thousand of them come in, you know somebody's going
to go, hey, what the heck is going on?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Guys? Such great advice.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Well, you know, Benny Benny commented, you know, if we
do call the White House, do they start tapping our lines?
Do you honestly believe that all of your lines are
not currently tapped right now, and that they have a
recording through the phone company, have everything you've ever said
or done on email and phone and text message. You
can worry about that, or you can take action out
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of courage and state your case. You know, it's up
to you. You can live in fear, or you can
live in being encouraged to take advantage of your First
Amendment right to freedom of speech. If you don't speak up,
you know, your silence is viewed as consent.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Absolutely. In fact, by law, they count it as consent,
and you can if you don't want to call them,
I mean, could probably use a public phone, or you
could even email them. I emailed the White House, in
the State Department, in mcgovernor, in my Secretary of State.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Quite frankly, I have the opposite view. I was quite
disappointed that they would not take my contact information. You know.
I started to say, you know, if there's any questions,
you can reach me at whatever, and they got no, no, no,
we don't do that, which was quite frankly disappointing. So
there isn't going to be necessarily any feedback because they don't,
(15:34):
you know, take your information down. Of course they have
your number. But more to the point going forward, Okay,
I've been saying for two and a half years, I
want to get out of the WHO and on with
the new. You know, what is it that we want?
Do we want more drugs and more PCR tests sud
up our nose? Do we want more treatments like ventilators
(15:56):
that you know, just have killed many people. Do we
want more poisonous instances like brehm desevere? Do we want
to reward and incentivize that by having the government pay
thousands and thousands of dollars for these treatments that cause
death and destruction, not to mention. You know the mRNA platform,
which I think is a biological weapon. What is it
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that we want instead? Each individual person has to make
that choice and and you know, work towards it to
make the world be you know, in your vision of
what you the world that you want to live in
in the future.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I so agree with you, James, that is such good advice.
And I you know, it is time for us to
you know, we don't want to have another fake demick
come on, and you know they are ready to set
up as many fake dimicks as they need to do
what they want to do. Tracy's asking if your voices
(16:51):
really have any power to be heard?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Well, you know, while I have had some experiences that
I think are very intuitive and all most psychic. You know,
sometimes you're connected to somebody and you you finish each
other's sentences. If you don't let the sound come out
of your mouth, they're not going to hear what's bouncing
around inside your head. So your voice that is unspoken
(17:14):
will absolutely not be heard. If you fulfill your obligation
of you know, putting it out on social media, putting
it out in a phone call or an email or
a text message, if you do what you're supposed to do,
which is to speak your mind and speak it into existence.
Then you can say, well, they're at fault for not listening,
but if you don't speak, you're at fault for not speaking.
(17:37):
And so, you know, is it any wonder that you're
you know, your representative, your congress person, your senator, or
any other level down, if all they ever hear from
are their donors or their lobbyists, you know, special interest lobbyists,
who are you know, setting up appointments and and you know,
maybe donating and bribing or whatever you want to call it.
(17:57):
If all your representatives ever here are those voices, we
collectively have to come together and you know, raise our
voice even louder and get more people to speak up.
I do think they listen. They may not listen to
one voice. But think about it on your own level, Okay.
If you get an email and somebody send you an email,
(18:19):
I mean I spend an hour every morning just trying
to catch up with the emails behind that I am overnight, Okay,
And so you give a nanosecond when somebody sends you
an email. If somebody if you get the same information
from twenty different people in an email, you're like, hey,
everybody's talking about this. What that you know? Maybe I
should look at it. Maybe I didn't look at the
(18:39):
first one. Maybe I didn't look at the second one.
But if it keeps coming, you're like, Okay, something's going on?
What the heck's going on? If you get a text message,
are you more likely to actually read it? If you
get a phone call, are you more likely to maybe
listen to the voicemail message that was left behind? If
you get five phone calls and five different people, Oh,
(19:00):
did you hear about this? Okay? If you get a letter,
you get a handwritten letter in the mail, does that
catch you by surprise? Oh? My god? Do I even
remember how to read cursive? You know, let alone write it?
What if you get a registered letter, certified mail? Okay?
What if you get five of them? What if somebody
(19:20):
knocks on your door, and then later in the day
somebody else knocks on your door, and all your neighbors
are telling you, hey, something's going on. It may not
happen with just one and it may not happen with
just an email or a text message or a letter,
or a knock on the door or a phone call.
But collectively, when you're being badgered by people saying, hey,
(19:40):
are you going to do this, or you're going to
do this, or you're going to do it. It might
be going to a party, it might be, you know,
being something that's going on in the neighborhood. It might
be anything. It piles up and it does have an impact.
But you have to be that drop of rain water
that contributes to the flood. Now, maybe that's a bad
analogy after what happened in Texas, but you know, if
(20:01):
you look at it from the point of view of
every single individual rain drop that fell during a flood,
it looks insignificant. But when there's enough of them, you
can cause a problem and you can get the attention
of your government officials. But if everybody gets now, I
don't feel like raining on their parade today, I don't
feel like speaking up. I don't feel like sending an email.
(20:23):
Then you have a drought and nothing happened. So I
can ramble on for days. But you know, the point
of it here is if this is the first time
that you're being made aware of something that's been going
on for several years, now, you have to ask yourself,
you know, what is the media doing that they were
(20:44):
able to keep this a secret from me. If you
were unaware of this deadline before now, or you know,
maybe before last week or whenever you go, how is
it that this information is being hidden by all of
the stories that may be in the media. You know,
is this more important than what you're being distracted by?
(21:04):
And why are they distracting you with whatever it is
you're being distracted by, and why are they not reporting
on this? So, you know, thank you very much for
giving me the opportunity to talk about this. You know,
you're not hiding it, you're not burying it, You're talking
about it. And we've had many many conversations over the
past couple of years. What is media doing, what are
(21:26):
they not doing and why? So any specific questions, Nancy
that you might have.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
So I just want to add to that because that
was an awesome answer. But I understood I heard this
years years ago because I'm from a family of lawyers
and judges and people like that, and they're all friends
with judges and things. But when one of these public
(21:51):
officials get a like a letter or a phone call
or whatever, they actually attribute that to Repri's inn Probably
ten thousand people say, figure, if one person is thinking this,
then you know that's probably you know, equivalent to that
many people out there who are not speaking yet thinking that.
(22:15):
So you know, I would say, you know, be a
part of the the I mean, in some ways, I
want to compare it to the Revolutionary War. If if
those people didn't stand up against a tyrannic government, then
we wouldn't have America.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Let me take what you said and kind of merge
it with a comment from I think it's Danny. He said,
do you feel that they were dismissing you by not
taking my information? And did they even pass along the
request like what you said, Nancy. I've been told from
people who have worked in you know, congressional offices that
when they receive an automated email, like you go to
(23:00):
somebody's website, you push a button and sends an email
that they know that that's all, you know, cookie cutter,
carbon copy, you know, very simple done, and so you
know they count that maybe as one as opposed to
ten thousand. If you get an email that comes through
their contact form and it's unique and different, you know
they count that as a constituent. Obviously, if you get
(23:23):
a phone call and you can actually interact and talk
with a person. You know, that has more impact if
you call and set up a meeting and go to
their office and you know, sit down and try to
share that information with a real life human being, all
the better. If you show up with ten people behind
you and they're all saying the same thing, you know,
that counts even more. I think with that, to answer
(23:48):
Danny's question, I was pleased that there's a pathway to
leave a comment. I think the person who's taking my
comment is doing their job and is most likely passing
it on to some higher up, you know, manager of
some sort. And I would like to believe that if
(24:08):
they see that there are dozens and hundreds and thousands
of people going, hey, this is the problem, this is
our opinion about it, that that'll move up to the
next level. Does it get to the point where the
State Department is going to write that letter and put
it in front of Donald Trump and have them sign
it and do a little press conference about it and
(24:29):
make a you know, social media play about it. Well,
we shall see. And I hope so they either do
it or they don't. And if they do it, you know,
we'll know, and if they fail, then we're going to
have to realize that this is the core problem that
I think I mentioned earlier. If you reach out and
(24:51):
you speak your mind, and you let your representative know
what it is you want, and you have a bunch
of allies who are doing the same thing and they listen, well,
good on you and good on them. Okay, if they
vote the way you want them to vote. If they
speak up about something, that's great. If they don't, well,
bad on you if you didn't say anything, and bad
(25:13):
on them if you did say something and they ignored you.
Listen to somebody else. Now, sometimes you're in the minority
and the other side's got thousands of people making phone calls.
But I don't think people are calling the White House going,
oh yeah, we love these amendments. Just you know, don't
do anything and let it pass, let it go through,
let it continue. I don't think there's a constituency for that. So,
(25:35):
you know, make a phone call today, make a phone
call tomorrow, and make another one on you know, Friday
the next day. But more importantly, let it be known
to your circle of influence, your friends, your family, social media,
whatever it may be that you know, I think I
got my start in political thinking back in I think
(25:57):
it was nineteen ninety four. I found myself working on
a project at a local TV station in Rhode Island,
and what I was advocating for was that the TV
station have sort of a public calendar of Hey, there's
going to be a city council meeting on Tuesday, and
(26:17):
there's going to be a school board meeting on Wednesday,
and there's going to be a car show on Main
Street on the weekend, or you know, whatever it might be.
Because I got sick and tired of listening to news
that had happened and I missed it, Like, don't tell
me what happened after it happens, you know, give me
a chance to participate by letting me know before there's
(26:39):
a deadline. So that's what we're doing. Now, Hey, there's
a deadline, and now's the time to speak up. And
I got an amazing amount of pushback from the station
man got into a very heated discussion and I, why
in the world would you argue about that? Well, he
called a break in the meeting, and he pulled me aside.
(26:59):
He was fifteen years older than me and very condescending.
He puts his arm around me, he goes, let me
help you out, kiddo, and I'll clean it up for
your show. Nancy. I won't say exactly what he said
he said, but he said, we don't give an f
about our viewers. Our advertisers pay the bills around here,
(27:20):
do you undersday? And that was the point where I
just stopped paying attention to mainstream media because I realized
that that was the truth. They do what their donors,
meaning their advertisers, want them to do. They don't care
about you. They don't deliver the news. They delivered a
(27:41):
very curated version of information that serves the benefit of
the people who pay them advertising money. And if you
think television and mainstream media is ever going to be
anything other than that, you didn't have the benefit of
that experience that I had. That changed my view forever.
You have to understand why they're presenting the information that
(28:03):
they're presenting. Now. I don't know who pays your bills, Nancy,
I don't know who advertise. You know what advertising groups
you can take money from. Then, but if you think
about it, if your if your presentation was dependent upon
you know, pick a company you see it. A lot
of people are advertising gold and silver, and they're advertising
(28:26):
you know, prepper materials and you know, preserved food, you know,
to get you through the apocalypse or whatever. Do you
think you're ever going to hear those people say anything
bad about the companies that are sponsoring their programs. Probably not, Okay,
And so one of the things I'm working on, and
(28:48):
I encourage people to reach out and connect with me.
Here's an idea that I have in development, and Nancy,
if you or anybody else wants to help work on it.
Has anybody ever held a magazine TV guide in their hand?
Speaker 2 (29:04):
You know, I forgot about those. I haven't watched TV
in like twenty years.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Okay, but you know what I'm talking about. One of
the things I'm working on is a TV guide for
alternative media. Okay, it's you know, twelve thirty about Pacific
time here today right now as we're recording this, if
I wanted to watch something at one o'clock specific time,
how would I know what to watch? And so any
(29:30):
organization that has a regularly scheduled program I mean, think
about it. We're up against massive mainstream media programming. We
need to schedule counter programming. Do you want to watch
mainstream or do you want to watch somebody else? And
I think one of the problems that is out there
is the alternative media doesn't have, you know, their version
(29:53):
of the TV guide. What what do people do? I mean,
I remember from back in the day, I haven't had
a television for a decade and a half at least.
You turn on the TV when you're in the mood
to watch something. You get out the remote control and
you go through the five hundred stations to see if
there's something you want to watch, and it's all based
on well, what time is it. Okay, you're sitting here
in front of the TV. What is it you want
(30:15):
to watch? And the alternative media is so many millions
of different people doing their own thing. We need that
type of structure and so you know, it's just one
of the projects that I'm working on. And you know,
happy to add you to the list. If you have
a regularly scheduled program that you livestream or if you
know of one, you know, there you go those days
(30:36):
at three pm, you know, we're going to add you
to the list. And this is this is wonderful, And
so you know, the whole point of it is there's
many things that individual people can do, whether it's making
for better healthcare, better media better you know, financing, better work,
you know, all kinds of things. We all need to
(30:58):
come together and get better connected to put forth the
ideas that we can do on a grassroot spaces because
the solutions are not coming from the top down. They're
they're causing the problems. And that's that's a lesson I
learned from a plumber that I worked with. You know why,
I'll say excrement flows downhill, it is because they make
(31:19):
it at the top, and we have to build solutions
on a local basis from the bottom up. And you know,
anybody who's interested in working on that, you know, please
get in touch with me.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Thank you so much. That's just you're a fascinating person.
I had a couple of questions for you about these
amendments and the who and everything are these amendments? Is
this going to override our government being able to veto
it if they decide on something spontaneously out of the
(31:53):
top of their hat that oh, we're going to have
an emergency now, and you know we're gonna have another
fake pandemic and is this one of those that is
going to override any government approval or would it have
to go through approval because I know some of them
actually override any government's constitution.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Well, that is not the case what you just said last.
And so there has been uh and this is why
I started off the way I did. There has been
an awful lot of fear mongering. And let me see
if I can summarize it as clearly as possible. What
the amendments are is primarily the beginning foundation of what
(32:37):
I think is a very corrupt business deal. They're trying
to set up a global cartel to control the response.
From the viewpoint of number one, they have defined relevant
health product. So I will say that if they had
put into the definition of relevant health products, oh, herbs
(33:02):
and vitamins and minerals and organic foods and good clean
water and homeopathic remedies and Chinese medicines and things like that,
if those were the things that they were saying everyone
should have access to and we want money to flow
so that everybody, you know, gets these fundamental bits of
nutrition or whatever, I'd be like, m darn, you know,
(33:24):
I might agree with you. No, none of that is
to be seen. It's never even been spoken of. They're
not talking about anything like that. It's all pharmaceutical products,
diagnostic tests, which the PCR is a fraudulent use of
the technology, devices like you know, ventilators, and drugs like remdessevere.
And they also added into the definition gene based therapy. Well,
(33:49):
I'm sorry, but the answer to preventing an outbreak of
some contageous disease are not pharmaceutical products and gene altering injection.
That is not the solution. That's the pathway to redistributing
wealth to the companies that are producing those products. That's
what these are primarily about. They also add in not
(34:12):
just the ability for the Director General of the WHO
to declare a public health Emergency of International concern e
HEIC or fake did you not right? They added up
They added a whole other level called the pandemic emergence.
And if you read through the definition that they have adopted,
(34:36):
it's just because he says so there's no evidence needed,
there's no data, there's no committee that is reporting, and
they have all this evidence, and so he's got to
do it and there's no way to turn it off.
It's basically saying he gets to declare that there's a
fake and I called the other one a super fake.
But they call it a pandemic emergency. And it's all
(34:59):
about fearmah. It's all about saying, oh, okay, now we
can justify having contracts go out for more of these
pharmaceutical products because the Director General said there's an emergency. Now,
that is not an order that nations have to follow,
but it ultimately becomes an excuse that they use to
(35:21):
try to justify their own declaration of emergency. So literally,
and I think we've talked about this a couple of
years ago. On the very last day of last full
day of the Obama administration January nineteenth, twenty seventeen, day
before Trump was inaugurated, the first time the CDC published
(35:42):
final rulings, and one of the things that they redefined
was the criteria that would allow the Secretary of Health
and Human Services to declare in the United States a
public health emergency. And essentially, the Secretary of Health and
Human Services can say, well, the who declared an emergency,
(36:02):
so we can too. It could be halfway on the
other side of the planet. It could be tiny, it
could be no real problem that has any impact on
our lives. But that's all the justification they would need. Now,
that's not the same as an order, that's an opportunity.
And so the real if you go back over the
past five years, our government didn't need any stinking amendments
(36:24):
to the international health regulations. They didn't need any pandemic
agreement to attempt to infringe upon our rights and freedom.
They declared emergencies, they claim emergency powers. They talk about
mandates and lockdowns and travel restrictions and all these many things.
That's not because the WHO said so. That's because the
WHO said what they said, and our local government officials
(36:45):
didn't listen to us. They listened to them and they said, oh,
here's what we're going to do. And quite frankly, they
probably went way beyond any thing that the WHO would
have recommended and did stricter lockdowns and mandates and all
that sort of stuff. So the battle is always local.
And I think Paula said, why do they get away
(37:05):
with doing this this way because we collectively let them.
We listen to the media who is lying or hiding
things on their behalf, and they sneak things through the way.
It's structured. If they just procrastinate and you know the
word that I pronounced differently, If they are just ignorant
(37:26):
and we are ignorant of what's going on because we're
distracted by the media, time passes, and like at a
wedding when they say, anybody who objects to this marriage,
you know, speak now or forever holds your peace. That's
the situation we're in right now. The deadline is July nineteenth.
Speak now or miss your opportunity. But that doesn't mean
(37:49):
it's over. Continue to get informed, continue to pay attention
to what these groups are doing. Continue to speak up
when you are in opposition to something, and speak to
the people who have the authority to do something about
it and demand that they take the action that needs
to be taken. If we don't speak up, it's our fault.
If we speak up and they don't listen, then it's
(38:10):
their fault.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yes, yes, thank you. And you know, I just want
to say the Director General of the World Health Organization
is is not even a medical doctor. And he's also
been accused by people of actually directing Ethiopia's security forces
(38:34):
and actions between twenty thirteen and twenty fifteen, and he
was accused of, over that period of time, of directing
the security service that was killing and torturing Ethiopians, so,
you know, causing genocide. So you know, he's not this.
(38:56):
You know, he's not an angel. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
That brings up a very esoteric little something that you know,
I don't even begin to know what it really means.
But in the list of four hundred relevant stakeholder who
are given the opportunity to present input into all of
these negotiations, the one that jumped out at me the
most was Ethiopian Airlines. Now, why in the world would
(39:25):
Ethiopian airlines be allowed to seat at the table for
the International Health Regulation. Well, there's actually a point to it.
I encourage people, now, you know, raise your hand if
you've actually read the International Health Regulations. I'm sure the
vast majority of people have probably never even heard of them.
But some of the amendments that they put forth have
(39:48):
an impact on what they call conveyance operators, airlines, cruise boats,
they call those conveyances. Well, one of the amendments that
they put in was that they want nations to make
sure that conveyance operators implement I'll give one example, I've
put it on Rejected Amendments dot com. There's plenty of
(40:11):
videos online where people who have taken a flight, and
airline flight, they get locked into the cabin and before
they take off or before they land, the flight attendants
walk up and down the aisles spraying insecticide inside the cabin. Well.
That's one of the measures that was mentioned and added
(40:31):
in these amendments. They want them to do that when
people are embarking and disembarking from their travels. They also
added in the ability to quarantine people on their conveyance.
So they want, you know, airlines and cruise ships to
test people on demand, and if somebody on the front
(40:54):
row of the cruise boat doesn't pass a test, you're
literally the terminology that they have in the HR is
you could be considered a suspect and you could be
quarantined just because you're on the same boat. And so
in the International Health Regulations, this is not an amendment,
this is the existing one. In article thirty one, it's
(41:17):
very funny, that funny in a sick way. That doublespeak
is amazing. Article thirty one, paragraph one says, you know,
nations really shouldn't require paperwork and vaccines and all that
sort of stuff in order to be able to travel.
But paragraph two says unless you want to, and then
it goes on to say that if you're a traveler
(41:38):
and you're in a foreign country, that nation can do
anything they want to you. They can make you be tested,
they can give you therapy or treatment, and they can
require you to be vaccinated. People don't know that that
is the existing agreement in the International Health Regulation. And
then they added on braying insecticides and quarantine and so
(41:58):
forth and so on. So these agreements are being made
by delegates who go to these negotiations and they adopt
them without really paying attention to the to the details.
And you know, our governments just rubber stamped them, and
nobody's none the wiser until you find yourself in a
predicament and you wonder how you got yourself stuck, you know,
(42:20):
locked up in quarantine or being told that you have
to have this, that or the other thing done to you.
These things are not acceptable, and you know, ignorance is
not bliss. You know, ignorance is very very dangerous, and
so you know, Nancy, thanks again for the opportunity to
share some of this information.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Oh well, I'm thrilled to have you here. I can't
believe our time is already up. I mean we literally
have like three minutes. And Paul is asking how they
get away with this, and they get away with it
by people not speaking up or doing anything about it.
And James are so grateful for you to come on
(42:59):
and share this with with everyone. James's contact information is
substack dot com, slash the Little sign at and it's
James Rogusky. And I highly recommend everybody taking no matter
where you are around the world, take action on this.
Be strong, be brave, and stand up for what you
(43:23):
believe in and what you feel is right. You know
so many of these things in the amendments, I mean
I know some of them. They actually had them taken out,
weren't even in them when they first gave them to
everybody as required, and they didn't do it in the
required amount of time, and then when it was being
voted on, they stuck it in, secretly stuck it in,
(43:45):
and I just you know, it's just unconscionable how they
do this. And yes they're spraying poison. Iso is saying,
yes they're spraying poison on you inside the aircraft.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
If you go to Reject the Amendments dot com and
scroll down the page on that article, you'll see a
couple of videos. And I'm sure you can go on
YouTube or other video platforms and you know, do light
attendance spraying passengers with insecticide and you'll be appalled. Now,
it maybe doesn't happen on domestic flights. It's to certain
(44:20):
countries and certain times and whatever, but you may or
may not be informed that that's going to happen on
a given flight that you may find yourself on. And
you know, quite frankly, if you understand the law of
the sea, you know the captain is the king of
the castle or whatever you want to call it on
any international voyage, your bill of rights, and you know
(44:44):
rights and freedoms don't apply on the high seas. And
they know that, and so they know how to take
advantage of you.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Thank you so much, James for joining us today. I'm
so grateful for you sharing this great information with everyone.
And yes, those poisons cause nerve damage and you are
breathing that in as well as soaking them in through
your skin, which goes straight to your bloodstream. So really
serious things. And James good, I hope we all stand
(45:13):
together and go with you and speaking up and letting
our voice be heard. And James, just one quick, tiny
little parting thought for our listeners if you could please well.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
You know, wind loser draw, It's always going to remain
the same problem. You know, we have a responsibility to
stand up and speak up for ourselves. Don't count on
some savior coming down to you know, rescue you, some
politician or party or whatever. Take the action that makes
sense to you and your local community and do which
you can to make the world a better place. And
you know, if you want to talk about that, reach
(45:45):
out to me anytime.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, and everyone. I will
talk to you next week and stay strong. And James
and I wish you great peace and strength and great health.
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