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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
Welcome beautiful people to organic healthy lifestyle and I'm Nancy
Addis and your host and I always start off my
show with a prayer, and if you'll please join me
in whichever fashion you would like, as ask our divine creator,
as we come on the threshold of a new season,
we come before you with hearts full of gratitude and expectations,
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and we thank you for the gift she bestowed on us.
We ask for gifts of wisdom so that we may
be wise and thoughtful with our words, hind with our works,
and loving and patient with our family, friends, and neighbors.
And we ask for your divine support with our countries
and those who find themselves as leaders. Please fill them
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with your love and your wisdom so that they will
serve the people with divine grace, truth, ethical behavior, and
works to benefit all people with peace and abundance. Either,
we ask for your divine wisdom and discernment as we
navigate the unknown paths before us, and grant us clarity
of vision to see the opportunities you place before us,
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and the courage to pursue them boldly. May this year
be a year of spiritual growth. Transform us into your
image with ever increasing glory. Use us as instruments of
your love and peace and healing in a world so
desperately in need. Give us discipline and perseverance to pursue
the rias you've placed in our hearts. Please bring support
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and love to all who have suffered all around the world,
and very much so in the last few months. Thank you,
Divine Creator, and may this year be marked by your
abundant blessings and mighty works in and through our lives.
I asked this in the highest good of all concern
for everyone listening now and everyone listening in the future.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
And so it is today I have a very special guest.
I believe it's maybe her ninth time on my show.
It's hard to believe I've been doing this show for
going on twelve seasons now and I'm even surpassed five
hundred shows. But I'm really honored to have doctor Stephanie
Sinef on My show today. She has been a senior
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research scientist at MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory.
She received the BS degree in biophysics, degrees in electrical engineering,
and a Peace PhD Degree in electrical engineering and computer science,
all from MIT. She's been conducting research for over three
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decades and is published over one hundred and seventy articles.
She's also the author of two really fantastic books, one
of the Toxic Legacy, How the weed killer glycasde is
destroying our health and the environment, and also the book
Cindy and Erica's Obsession to Solve Today's Healthcare Crisis, Autism,
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Alzheimer's disease, cardiovascular disease, als and more. And I'm so
thrilled to welcome you to the show today, doctor Cinef.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Thank you so much for having me my pleasure so.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
As we are embarking on our new territory here in
this twenty twenty five I know it's been a little
while since you've been on the show, and I'd love
for you to catch us up on what you really
think is important for us to know today. If there
is anything specific either with pesticides and herbicides like ground
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up ready, which I know you are probably the world's
premier researcher on, if not one of the top ones.
And also maybe AI, because I do realize that's coming
fast and furiously and there's all types of various information
out there and we'd love to get your point of view.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Wow. Yeah, those are two big topics. That's certainly very
much on my mind. AI has been amazing actually how
fast it has come to be real. You know, I
was one of the early pioneers that developed these capabilities
for the computer to communicate with humans using natural language.
I was really my specialty way back when it seemed
impossible to imagine that it could ever actually work. I
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have to say we were pioneers, and I just never
it looked like there were so many obstacles at that
time that I think it would ever actually come to
be common. And it's just amazing to me how quickly
AI just basically appeared out of nowhere to people, to
random people. It must have looked like it just appeared
out of nowhere to have this incredible capability, I think,
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to converse with people and even to have, you know,
thinking in terms of avatars, the concept of a robotic friend,
you know, that could be could be more than a friend,
like even a romantic relationship with a robot. It just
seems so absolutely bizarre to me, and yet these things
are kind of happening right now, you know. So it's
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amazing to me how well they work. And of course
they also have a lot of deficiencies, and an important
deficiency in my view is the training, because they can
be trained to learn the message messaging from the mainstream
such that what I consider to be the truth doesn't
come out. And so if they become the official standard
of what we believe, they can be a mechanism by
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which those people who are trying to force us to
believe certain ways achieve their goal, you know, for most
of the population, because people don't no longer believe that
what it says is false. Do you see what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yes, I do, And I see that danger because I've
listened to a few pick people discussing the AI and
some of the capabilities and different things that they have
questions they've been putting in there, and they have found
them to be kind of pre programmed to a certain
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way of thinking and not.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Accurate exactly well not accurate according to our point of view,
because there's so much censorship going on in our world
that the people who have the kind of message you
and I have, they get suppressed, But they also get
suppressed in the training of the algorithms. They intentionally train
the algorithms so as to think the way the mainstream
wants you to think and to give you the messaging.
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In fact, someone sent me email saying that they had
asked the chat GPT about Stephanie Sendevan, what is your
view on vaccines, and the chat GPT is happy to
say that I was totally in favor of vaccines. I
didn't fare that this is true, but that's what I
heard from the email, which is just amazing, because I've
been very outspoken on vaccines, you know. So it's yeah,
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it's a question of they don't really think. They just
sort of put words together statistically, and they can make
very big mistakes. I've certainly seen very big mistakes in biology.
I've been using it extensively for biology, and I'm quite
actually excited about the potential that it has. I've been
using Google Ai actually every day, several times a day.
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I do a search into Google AI and it's actually
wonderful for giving a kind of an outline of a
particular topic in biology, and then to have links to
particular references. It'll make a statement, it'll have a link
to a reference you can confirm or show that it's
wrong by looking at that reference. So it actually gives
you a very handy interface to this vast literature of
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biology to answer specific questions that you have in mind.
And I have very specific questions mind, and it often
gives me very specific answers that I'm pleased with. So
I've actually been very excited about the potential for AI
in biology to help us to break through some of
the barriers of understanding exactly how biology works. I'm very
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excited about that. I just have to be careful that
it can say something wrong, so you don't trust it.
You never want to believe what it said unless you
check it from the literature good good point.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So you wouldn't want to just automatically take it at
face value as being one hundred percent correct. You'd want
l I go double check and really research and see
if some of the specific information that you're looking for,
you know, is coordinated with somebody that's.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Not a right basically. But the thing is chat GPT.
I used chat GPT as soon as it came out
quite a bit, and I got really frustrated with it
because it would make a claim and I would say,
are you sure you know that doesn't seem right, and
then it would have a reference, and the reference would
be a bogus reference, like it didn't even exist, and
I was so frustrated. In fact, I even reviewed a
paper where they had they had references that didn't exist,
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and I'm sure they found through chat GPT, and they didn't.
The authors didn't realize, you know, and didn't check. They
assumed it was an authentic reference. Chat GPT was making
up references, you know, complete with names and the journal
and dates, and completely bogus. You couldn't find them in
the literature, and that was very frustrating. But Google AI
is much better, and of course it got rolled out later,
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and I think chat GPT, the chat GPT folks forced
Google's hand for them to get cracking with their own system,
and they of course have vast amounts of knowledge to
train it on. And so the Google AI has been
to me very impressive and very powerful step above for sure.
And what's nice about it is that it gives you
those links, so it'll make it'll nice, make a nice
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outline of talking points around a particular topic, and then
you can click and you see the link right there.
You can look up that reference and so you can
confirm what it said is true because there it is
in that reference, and now you have that reference to
use your papers. So it's extremely good for the kind
of work I do, which is writing review papers in biology.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Okay, that is so good to know. I have to
admit I've had some real reservations. I'd listened to some
of doctor Lee Merritt and doctor Brine artists research and
how you were reading old papers that have been published
and it would have I don't know, you know, fifteen
or twenty people who had been on that research, and
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they start looking at all these names and a lot
of the researchers listed didn't even exist, and maybe the
very last person was some kind of obscure doctor that
agreed to put their name on it or something. And
some of the research, you know what was actually falsified information.
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And so you know, it makes me, as a researcher
and someone who who really has always in search of
the truth, weary of trusting some of this, and the
fact that they rewrote our history books in nineteen between
nineteen fifty and nineteen fifty four, and we removed a
lot of actual information and then also did it back
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in the nineteen I believe, in the nineteen twenties. Yeah,
I think one of our safer things to do when
we're researching is actually go back and get old books.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Oh yeah, and actually old scientific literature too. I have
found some incredible important, incredibly important articles from the nineteen
sixties in the work I'm doing now, and even one
from the nineteen thirties and so, and I think I
found those through one of these search engines. So they
actually have some of those very old articles and that
some of those turn out to be really important because
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it's research that was really groundbreaking and that hasn't been repeated,
you know, didn't really catch on, didn't get into the mainstream,
and nobody followed up. So that can become very very important.
The old literature in biology.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, and those books are getting more and more expensive.
And I don't know about where you are, but here
in Texas we have like a half priced books and
there are a lot of people who donate their books
from their estates. So if you're looking for a really obscure,
maybe out of print book, yes, I always those places
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because you can find a treasure.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
There, right.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yes, So let's move to a different subject now that
but we've kind of touched on AI because I really
do think we could probably do a whole show on
a I have to do that in the future, but
I'd love for you to touch on because we were
talking just a moment ago, and you have a book
out on autism and Alzheimer's and I'm hearing alarming ratios
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of how many children vaccinated children have autism now.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
And yes, there's actually been you know, I'm excited about
the studies that are finally getting published. It was kind
of interesting that a study came out right around all
the here things going on with RFK Junior trying to
I heard by the way that he's made it out
of committee. I don't know if you know that. I
think that's brand new news our K, thank you, which
is wonderful. So I'm really hopeful that he's going to
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make it and he's going to be great. I really
am very excited about the possibility of him being in
charge of HHS. You know, that is just going to
be a very powerful position for him to have, and
I think he can do good things. And he's certainly
very concerned about the food and the Glife is Aid
and all of that sort of thing, so I think
he can have some power to actually implement some things
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that can help us improve our food supply, which is
so crucial I think for our health. And of course
the vaccine issue is very controversial, but he's been constantly
saying I'm not against you know, vaccines, I just want
them to be safe and effective. That's kind of his mantra,
And of course my opinion is that that's an extremely
difficult path to carry out. To make them both safe
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and effective is almost contradictory, because I think in order
for them to be effective, they won't be safe. So
I personally think I come to the position, a very
strong position that vaccines are generally speaking, you it'd be
hard to find a vaccine that has more benefit than risk.
I think that's the way I would say it. It would
be hard to find one, and certainly the COVID vaccines
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definitely have more risk than benefit.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
You know, yes, and you were on my show very
early on, right when they were coming out with that
talking about your research and the danger you were seeing
in it. And I so appreciate you sharing that information
with us, because people get so confused with all the
you know, various information coming out then that you know,
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the government's telling them it's safe and inspective, and then
you know their friend died after they got it.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
All right exactly. And the thing is, I mean, the
really critical thing to me is the legislation back in
nineteen eighty six, I believe it was was when they
passed this law that gave the industry a get out
of jail free card. I think that was a huge mistake.
That the industry was saying, we're going to stop making
these vaccines because we're getting too many lawsuits and it's
costing us money. We're not going to make a profit,
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so we're just going to stop, and the government basically said, oh,
you can't stop. Vaccines are so important that you know
they're saving all these lives. We'll make we'll give you
a break, and whatever happens to the child that gets vaccinated,
if they drop dead two hours later, too bad for them.
You can't be sued. You know that particular law. If
we can reverse that law, I think things will really change.
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My personal belief going forward is that we should get
to the point. I think there's two big things we
could do that would really help. And number one is
to reverse that law. Say that the industry is accountable.
You know, if somebody can go to court, regular court,
not this vaccine court that's you know, the government thing,
and make a case, get a jury trial, and then
get a reward, you know, for the damages that we're
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done in cases where it's very compelling. We need to
have that process back in place. And I think if
it is back in place, they're going to stop making
the vaccines that are most the biggest problematic, you know,
the most problematic vaccines. They'll take them off market, which
is what they should do. You know. That's market pressure.
Oh yeah, something. Yeah. If something is that dangerous that
you can't make money off of it, then why are
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you making it? You know, no kidding. It seems icial
to me. So that would be number one, And then
number two would be to get rid of all the mandates.
You know, it's no longer mandated that you have to
get these vaccines in order to attend school. You know,
it's not even part of the program anymore. You just
the government strongly recommends if they like, you know, all
these vaccines that these kids are being subjected to. They
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can strongly recommend it, but they can't mandate it. That's
I would love to see us get to that point
where you don't have to have a religious excuse. You
don't have to have a you know, a medical excuse
for why you don't want to vaccinate your child. You
just say no. Parent has the power to just say no,
and that's it. You don't have to prove anything, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I so totally agree with you, doctor Sinneff, and we
have a listener, Henry, who says there should be accountability,
and we we agree, I mean totally agree able. To
put something out on the market that harms people knowingly, harms, paralyzes,
kills people without being liable.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
For that, Yeah, that just seems wrong. You know, that
just totally seems wrong. And that also brings us to
glypaze because this is what I was telling you earlier
about the chemical agrochemical industry. They're trying to play the
same game that the vaccine industry has so phenomenally have
been so phenomenally successful with this game of getting off
the hook. And now Monsanto Beyer has been approaching several
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different states. I think it's up to maybe twelve different
states individually, trying to get them to pass a law
that basically says, you know what, glyphysate is so important,
it's so vital to our food supply that we can't
afford not to have it. And if we're going to
get all these lawsuits for non Hschin's lymphoma, we're going
to have to withdraw glyphystate from the art market, and
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then your food prices are going to go way up,
and it's just going to be you'll have you'll start
if everybody will start, because there won't be enough food.
I mean something like that, right, that it's so vital
to our food supply that we can't we have to
go ahead and get sick from it without having any
recourse you know, for compensation.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, they're propaganda they put out there is just sometimes
just mind blowing because you think, who in their right
mind would really believe this?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
But I know it's like, you know, we lived without
glyph is a for most of human history. You know,
we only had it for maybe thirty or forty years,
and the idea that we can't live without it is
just really stupid, and we would be so much better
off if we if we really made a push to
switch all of our farming to organic. I think it
should all be organic. We should get rid of all
the herbicides, all the insecticides, all the fungicides, and figure
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out how to grow food without those. I think we
need to do that, you know, if we want to
be healthy. Otherwise we're just going to all be sick.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
You're so right, and we have two listeners, Pam and Jen,
and I'm going to read your comments here, doctor Sinneth.
Pam says we need to take our power back and
make the government work for us instead of us working
for the government. Thank you, Paam, and Jen. Jen says
they make poison. Why should we have to put that
on our food supply?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I thank you for both of you. That's totally right.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah, And you know, it's just it's crazy to go
in the grocery store and to seriously look at the
food and go, Okay, here we have safe, organic food,
and then here we.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Have what is this.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I I've had I had a doctor tell me once.
He said, if you're not eating certified organic food. And
I know it's even more challenged today because they keep
watering down on the board. But he said, every bite
you take an organic food, food that's had this round
up ready or these herbicides on it. He said, it's
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like eating an antibiotic with every bite.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
It's true. It's true. Life has been patented as an
antimicrobial agent, and I think that's why we're having a
lot of one of the reasons why we're having so
much trouble with these antabotic resistant microbes. You know, we
get these nasty infections with you know, salmon el er
with the soutamonus or uganosa, you know, resistant to everything,
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and you have this MRSA you know what, it's a
multiple resistance staff aureas. All these viruses that are so bacteria, sorry,
bacteria that you can't fight off because they're immune to
all the antibiotics that you can throw at them.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
You know, m just become resistant to them over time.
And yeah, and then to basically I mean have to
pay extra to eat food that's not poisoned.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I know. And it's really sad because the government actually
subsidizes the GMO, you know, farms. The large agricultural GMO based,
chemical based agriculture system is subsidized by the government. If
they would just take away those subsidies and get them
to the organic farmers instead, it would be so much better.
You know, we could the government could really motivate the
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farmers to move in the right direction by funding the
right way to grow agriculture instead of the wrong way.
You know, it seems like a no brainer to me.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Well, I think in many ways, if we really want
a government that represents us and not these big corporations,
then we need to get rid of these lobbyists.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
That well for sure, yes, you know are.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Paying millions of dollars to buy these people off for
their boat.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I know that's really We've got a broken system for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
And so as we are embarking on this new year,
doctor Senef, I know that some of these herbicides, like
the ground up ready with glyphysate in it, they do
certain things to the food. And you have shared with
us in the past a few ways that we can
detoxify from those, protect ourselves from those, or maybe supplement
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something that is being really harmed or blocked or diminished
by this herbicide being put on the food and can
you share with us some of the things that you
do for you and your family that you feel is
something that we could also implement.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Yeah, I think the food is absolutely number one importance
is what you eat, and we're very careful in my household.
Whenever we go shopping, we always look for the certified
organic label, and if we can't find something certified organic,
we don't buy it. We just try to do without
that particular product. We've been very much that way ever
since I've more than a decade, you know, since I
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discovered how toxic life is it is, and how pervasive
it is in our food supply. We're very strict about
eating certified organic in my household. The other thing is,
of course whole foods, you know, eating don't eat soy
protein bars, for example, and don't eat a lot of
cookies and candies. You want to be eating wholesome whole foods,
and especially fresh foods and vegetables, cruciferous vegetables. I think
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all of the green vegetables are very healthy. And of
course all the herbs and spices. You want to have
generous use of herbs and spices, including things like garlic,
and ginger and oregano and basil, all those wonderful herbs
you want to really spice up your food. The herbs
turn out to be really, really good as antioxidants. I'm
finding more and more to believe that you know that
it's important to eat those to spice up your food plues.
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It tastes much better when it has these spices in it.
So I've gotten very interested in emphasizing herbs and spices
and food. And of course I have this thing about sulfur.
Sulfur is kind of my thing, and going way back,
I love that about you, both sulfur deficiency and of
course disruptive sulfate system due to life you eate. That's
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a lot. A lot of my book talked about that,
and in fact, that connects directly to autism, because the
autistic kids have issues with sulfur. Many of them can't
handle sulfur containing foods. They get sick. And I think
it's because glyc we state it is messing up the
enzymes that manage sulfate in particular, and sulfate is incredibly
important in the body, but it's also tricky to manage,
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and so we have some sophisticated systems that take care
of that, but glyphys eight messes them up, and I
think that's a direct link to autism, connecting glyphysate to autism.
And of course glyphys eights usage on core crops went
up dramatically over the first ten years of this century
in step with a dramatic rise in autism. That is,
basically those two curves co incide extremely strong correlation, and
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people screen back. Correlation doesn't mean causation, but I think
in this case it does. And of course there's many
other diseases that have also gone up dramatically since two
thousand and that's when we started. You know, all those
GMO around up bready crops. They became very popular starting
around two thousand and they increased the number of those
crops using and also increased the amount of glap state
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they were using on those crops because the crops the
glyphizate resistance started appearing in the weeds, so they had
to use higher levels of glyphysate to kill those weeds.
And so as a consequence, the use of glyphys e
went up over time on those on those glycazate resistant props,
and so we're getting more and more. Now it's pretty
much pervasive in our food supply, and we've been testing
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you know, zend Houndcat of Mombs across America is a
good friend of mine and she's been testing various things
for glyphaz eight and she's been finding it. You know, recently,
she's been testing Girl Scout cookies and she found one
hundred percent of the samples contained glycys eight. And the
same thing with school lunches. She did a study on
school lunches at the public school system. I think it
was ninety five percent were positive. And then she did
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fast food restaurants one hundred percent were positive. So it's
basically all over the food supply. Glyphys eight is if
it's not organic, and even if it is an organic,
it can test positive for glyphys eight. I just bought
a macaroni this morning. I was so happy because it
was an organic macaroni, but they actually had on the
box they had they said it was glyphis eight free.
The first time I found a product like that that
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actually said it was glyph is eight free, which was
so pleasing.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Well, I'm going to start looking for that. Well, Doctor Sinnev.
One of the things you've taught me over the years
is kind of how to detox survive from the glyphus satan.
And once you said apples cider vinegar was.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Yes, I was going to get to that because actually
that's right, and sauer kraut as well. In fact, there
was a study on cows. The cows were sick and
they tested they had glycusate in their urine, and they
actually treated the cows with one of the things they
treated them with with sauer kraut, which is of course
similar to apple sider vinegar. Both of those have a cetobacter,
and Acetobacter are one of the very few species that
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have been shown to be able to break down glycusate.
So it's only some of the strains of acetobracter that
can break it down. And I believe that they are
often in these premented foods that have a cetobacter as
part of the mix of the factory that are in
the fermentation process. So I believe that when you take
when you take apple sider vinegar or sauer kraut, you're
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actually providing your mouth with microbes that can break it
down it even when they're preparing. You know, if you
think about in fact, there's a really fascinating paper that
was just recently published by Don Hubert with some collaborators.
Really fascinating paper and a very sad story. Actually it
was a cabbage. They were growing cabbage organically, it was
organic cabbage, and then they were making a sauerkraud out
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of it, and they found for some reason that the
sour craft was all mush like. It didn't the cabbage
didn't have the right texture to make proper sour kraut,
and had to throw it away. They couldn't sell it,
and they lost a lot of money. It was like
a million dollars or something. It was a huge amount
of cabbage that they were processing to make this sour craft,
and then the whole thing failed, and so Don Huber
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got involved in trying to figure out what was going on,
and a very sad story because what he traced it
to was life is a contamination in the manure. They
were using chicken, yeah, poultry manure as a fertilizer and
that isn't required to be organic, and so they were
feeding the chickens lots of glyphiz eate which was getting
into their manure, and the madure was contaminating the soil,
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and that was causing the cabbage to not develop properly
because it was actually messing up the development of the fibers.
You know, the copectant or whatever it is that the
cabbage makes that keeps it sturdy, wasn't able to be
made properly because of the exposure to the glive state.
Really fascinating story. And they found actually, ironically that sauer
kraut juice sourcoud juice applied I believe to the soil
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actually removed the glyphysiate in the soil and solved the problem.
So it's ironic because the sauer krowd juice, I mean,
they probably had a lot of sour krout juice from
the glyphyzate, you know that they had from them all
the sauer craut that they had to throw out. I
don't know whether they used that juice, but it could be.
It removed the glypizate in the It removed the glpstate
(28:50):
in the sauer kraut and then it ruined it. But
then it could also remove the glave state in the
soil if you applied it to the soil. So it's
kind of a twisted circle. It is so interesting yeah,
so the acetobacter. So there have been various studies in
terms of trying to fix the soil when after it's
been exposed to glastic because the microbes in the soil
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get all messed up by the glycate, just like the
microbes in our gut get all messed up, and so
they have an imbalance in the microbes and the ones
that are supposed to be like nitrogen fixing bacteria, they
get they get messed up by glyphys a And then
you have excess nitrates that wash off into the waterways
and cause a lot of problems, you know, with nutrient overgrowth.
And then you get the algae, the blue green algae,
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you get the red tide, all these nasty things that
come out of glyphys eate wash nitrate we're washing off
because glyphys aate is preventing it from getting soaked up
by the plants.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Well, if they're uh trying to get so many questions
for you, I know that the glyphissate in many ways
kind of depletes things like taurine and stuff in the soil,
and it's a mineral key lator, so so it basically
makes the food very mineral deficient.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Absolutely, Yeah, and that's one of the things that Don
Hubert taught me. He was the one who first introduced
me to glyc is eight many years ago, twenty twelve,
that's when I first started on this whole glyphysate obsession.
I say, he's a great guy, and he's still active.
He's over eighty years old, and he was the author
on this paper that I just mentioned, so he's just amazing.
But he talked and I remember that talk where he
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showed svies and he had done studies where he had
shown how and of course sulfur was one of the
things that was really shrunk down. He compared life state
exposed versus non glyphys age exposed plants, and he looked
at the amount of minerals that were taken up, and
you know, manganese and magnesium, and sulfur and zinc and
all probably copper, All these things were much lower in
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the GlyP state exposed crops compared to the others. And
so we're getting mineral deficiencies by virtue of eating food
that hasn't been able to take up the minerals. Because
glycy state is such a great key lader, it binds
to those minerals keeps them away from both the bacteria
and the plant itself, so you get deficiencies in these minerals.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Stefan Doctor said, if could you share with our listeners
why you think sulfur is so important. You and I
have had some extensive research discussions on this when with
the heart disease and cholesterol and vitamin D, and I
would love for you to share your ideas of that
and what your research has shown you.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, well, that's very very interesting to me. And I
actually started looking at sulfate before I even knew about
life as a specifically with respect to autism. That's where
I started, because I came across Rosemary Wearing's work, which
was in the late nineteen nineties or maybe all of
the nineteen nineties from Rosemary Wearing was working with a
number of different autistic kids and she was interested in
trying to understand what was going wrong with their metabolism,
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and so she actually got a hint that sulfur might
be a problem, probably because they were sensitive to sulfur,
and so she started looking at sulfur metabolites in their
and she found that they had extraordinarily high levels of
some sulfur compounds that are kind of unusual, like sulfate
and thiosulfate. You know, they had high, sky high levels
like fifty times as high as what the normal kids
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had of some of these patabolites, and it suggested to
her that they had a problem with making sulfate. So
she had a theory that they had a sulfate deficiency problem,
a sort of an inability to handle sulfate properly, both
to make it, to transfer it, to deliver it, you know,
the whole process. And that was a huge hint for me,
and that's sort of where I started. And at the
same time I got interested in cholesterol sulfate. This was why,
(32:35):
way before I was doing glyph is, I was looking
at autism and I was looking at heart disease, those
two diseases together at the same time, and I found
there was a common element, which was cholesterol sulfate. And
in fact, there's a there's a genetic defect that it
causes an inability to make cholesterol sulfate, and that's associated
with the high risk of autism. So that's sort of
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another sort of hint that cholesterol sulfate might be important.
And so what I believe now is that there are many.
It's true. There are many different very important metabolites in
biology that are sulfated in transit, and cholesterol is one
of them. Also vitamin D, so vitamin D sulfate, cholesterol sulfate,
and also all the aromatic amino acids that come out
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of the shickmate pathway, which glyph is a block so
blocks the production of the sulfate carrier molecules that come
out of the shickamate pathway, which are all these phenolic compounds,
polyphenols and flabinoids. Those things come out of a process
that glyph is eight blocks, and they are also sulfated,
and then they're transported through the blood with a sulfate
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attached to them. And so that includes one in fact,
tryptofan and tyrosen and phenylanine, and then they're derivatives like
melatonin and serotonin and dopamine. They're all sulfated when they're transported.
It's really fascinating to me. These are all incredibly important neurotransmitters.
You know, the dope dopamine and the melotonin and the serotonin.
Those are all really important in the brain, you know,
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opper brain function. They're also sulfated when they're transported, and
so it became clear to me that these molecules require
sulfate to be transported, which actually in it disables them.
They're not active, that can't do their normal job. Like
vitamin D. Sulfate is inert it doesn't it doesn't do
what vitamin D does. You have to take the sulfate
(34:21):
off before it becomes active. But that's kind of the
point that you carry it. It's kind of like when
you have to carry something dangerous explosive gas and you
put it in this very thick truck that has these
very thick walls to keep it safe because it can explode.
You know, it's sort of like you have to attach
the sulfate to keep it from doing what it will
do until you get it to where it needs to be.
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Then you take the sulfate off and now it's active.
So it's a way of transporting it without it sort
of messing up along the way. You know, it turns
it off, dips it out, turns it back on again
when you take the sulfate off at the at the
delivery point, but then you also deliver the sulfate as
well as that molecule, like vitamin D so you deliver
both vitamin D and sulfate packed together. You take the
sulfate off and it's very useful to the body because
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it's lining. You have hepron sulfate that lines all the
blood vessels, and you're delivering that sulfate to the hepron
to make the hepron sulfate. You see what I'm saying.
So these molecules are carrying sulfate.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
How are you telling the body to like remove the sulfate.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Well, there's enzymes that put it on, there's enzymes take
it off, and all those enzymes are suppressed. There's also
enzymes that make it. And there's an activated sulfate that's
made by an enzyme that's just suppressed by glyphysate. There's
a sulpho transferrase that's suppressed by glyphs eate. And then
there's the phaps synthase that's the one that makes the
activated sulfate sulfite to sulfate. All of those are suppressed
(35:41):
by glypstate. I believe, and I have reasons why I
believe that that I discuss in my book. And so,
in fact, the autistic kids have been shown to have
a deficiency in the ability to sulfate polyphenols in the gut,
which also makes them by the way, toxic, so you
know you're sort of detoxifying. You detoxify certain chemicals also
(36:02):
by sulfation, so inactivate, detoxify. These all happen with sulfation.
But then sulfation also becomes a way to transport sulfate
because you can't just put free sulfate into the blood
otherwise it'll gel the blood because it has this property
of being what's called a cosmotrope, and it makes the
blood really thick. It gels the blood. So you can't
just throw free sulfate into the blood. You have to
(36:23):
carry it with one of these carrier molecules. And what
happens with autism is you don't have enough carrier molecules.
You don't have enough enzyme action to put the sulfate
onto those carrier molecules, so then you have too much
free sulfate and then you have to just flush it
through the kidney. So what these kids actually do is
they excrete sulfate in their urine because they can't keep
(36:44):
it in the blood because they have no way to
attach it to things. It's a very big defect that
can cause and eventually then you have insufficient heproinsulfate in
the brain, which is what's been associated with autism in
both humans and mice. They've shown that that the autistic
kids have a deficiency and have and sulfate in the
brain ventricles, which is absolutely critical for happen. Sulfate is
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critical for brain development.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
So, Stephanie, doctor Stenef, if you detoxify, say from this
glit facade or some of these toxic chemicals that are
sometimes set are additives in these vaccines, like thermerisol, which
is mercury and aluminum, things like that. Would you use
(37:27):
something like activated charcoal or bentonite clay or are there
some other well?
Speaker 3 (37:32):
I think those are good things. And that's also part
of what was used for those cows I mentioned earlier
with the Saubercraft juice. The Soubercraft juice and combined with
bench nite clay and also fulbc acid and humic acid.
These are all binders and fubic acid and humic acid
or organic matter from the soil, and you can get
those pretty easily on the web, and they're binders and
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they may also be trapping enzymes that can break down
GLC state that's not as clear I was doing. The
reason I wrote about that in my book because I
found some studies that showed that these specialized enzymes that
are very powerful that breaking down chemicals, toxic chemicals end
up in those pulbic acid embedded in the pubic acid,
and so the enzyme action could be breaking down the glytiate.
(38:16):
I love to think of breaking it down rather than
just fitting it out, you know, because you just bind
it and release it in the feces, then it's still around,
it's still glyphis eight. You want to break it down,
and that's where the acetobacter come in too, so to
have enzymes some of the back very few of the
bacteria have enzymes that can break down glyph is eight,
and that's what you need. You need enzymatic breakdown. You
(38:38):
can also get, you know, breakdown from things like chlorine dioxide.
You know, you sort of have chlorine can break it down,
and also oxygen like ozone or something. So you can
have sort of powerful oxidizing agents that can break lipe
is a down non enzymatically, but those are sort of
trickier because they're also very reactive and they could cause
some other troubles, so it's not as clear whether that's
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a good option, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Okay, Well, I mean that's such valuable information for everyone
to know, and I think you know more and more
today as we live in this just kind of toxic
saturated world. It's in our air, our water, our food,
you know. I think detoxifying on a regular basis is
really one of the things I recommend to people because
(39:24):
I just think we're getting toxic overload.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Oh we are, for sure. It's just so I mean
I focus on glype is it, and I focus on vaccines,
but I think there's so much else, you know. I'm
not saying there's nothing else. All these other herbicize and
insecticides and fungicides and even plastics. I mean, there's just
so many things. And the forever you know, chemicals, the
pithos is just like such a huge list, and even
(39:48):
all the drugs, you know, the cancer drugs for example,
are extremely toxic and they and they can even become
a problem to people and to the animals, you.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Know, I understand. And the chemo is actually mustard gas
poison that they.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Yeah, chemo is extremely toxic, and you have to wonder,
you know, you hate to think of the first poor
person has to be exposed to it to try to
cure the cancer. But they're do they in fact, does
it end up in the sewer system? You know, you
know completely yeah, and even things like met form and
met Forman, you know, is a very popular diabetes drug
(40:26):
and apparently it is hard to break down and it
ends up in the water waste and it actually messes
up the fish. I remember reading about that. So we
all these drugs that we take, you know, they're all
not not natural, and they're all out there and they're
doing things to the animals that we don't know. We
don't know what they're doing. You know, we need to
study more, but it's very expensive to do the studies
(40:47):
and very hard to prove a lot of the times
it's very hard to prove something and so and of
course the industry doesn't want us to think that it's poisoned,
so they're always working against proving that is toxic.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
So, Stephanie, if I have a question for you. Over
the last year year or so, there have been over
a hundred patents for putting venomous snake poison into vegetable
and fruit seeds.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Wow, I didn't know about that. Even LSU is putting
what's the purpose of it?
Speaker 2 (41:21):
In the rice? Well, that's my thoughts too, is is
this you know what kind of people fund this kind
of study? Why would they patent this? And what is
that going to do to the environment in our wildlife
or even us for that matter. But I mean just
the whole philosophy of that alone just seems absolutely ludicrous.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
I mean I really have come to distrust any chemical
that's not natural, and we're just constantly making up new chemicals.
I mean, I think the chemistry industry is really out
of control right now, and they're trying all these different things.
Of course, there's all kinds of exotic drugs that they're
working on these days, and of course all the mRNA
based technology. It's quite frightening to me. I think we're
(42:06):
recklessly moving forward into a space that we don't understand,
and there's a kind of a cavalier view that, oh
what could go wrong? You know, this hopeful point of
view that says, oh, we're going to solve cancer. You know,
we're going to do all these great things with all
this weird stuff that we're messing with in biology that
we don't understand, and I just think it's a very
(42:27):
dangerous place to be. And when you look at the
mRNA vaccines and all the different possibilities that seem like
to me they could be happening, even like the RNA
getting converted into DNA, getting integrated into the genome being
passed on to the offspring. I mean, this is all
theoretically possible, and it's interesting to me, Like it seems
like some people like to think that, oh gosh, what
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could go wrong? It's so small amounts, you know, who cares?
And then other people like me are always sort of
worried about the opposite of, Oh my god, do we
understand this really and what is it going to do?
And how are we going to find out? You know,
I'm always worried about what could happen, whereas most people
seem to be relaxed about it, like, well, it's just
a long amount, how much damage could it do? Type
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of attitude.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
You know, Yes, I know, my father had a masters
in chemical engineering from Stanford University.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
I literally grew up watching him poison our farm.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
And you know, I think he had the right intention,
But I think, you know, in many ways they are
taught in these universities that these types of things are
not really harmful to the world and the environment. And
I mean it just you know, it really blows my
mind sometimes because I took landscape architecture at Texas A
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and M, and I also did some pre med environmental
studies there, and you know, they really pushed the chemicals
and try to convince you that, you know, this is good.
And I have not been able to bring that into
my mind as well.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
I know, I think that has really struck me, is
I've really reached a point where anything that isn't natural,
I don't want it, you know, any kind of chemical.
And I resist pharmaceutical drugs for that reason too, because
they're all anything that's patented is not natural by definition.
You know.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yes, yes, Well, we're going onto our last five minutes,
and it has been such a great honor having you
back on the show today, doctor Sinnef. And we have
one question from a listener here and she is saying,
how do we know if our food is free from poison?
Speaker 3 (44:46):
We don't. We really don't. But I think generally eating
certified organic is safer than not. I certainly think it's
worth it to eat certified granic and I appreciate the
fact that that exists and there is a sort of
certification label that requires certain behaviors that's going to prevent,
you know, horrible things from happening. Usually. Of course, you
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have that story with this ouercraft which didn't work out
so well, so you have to be worried even with
certified organic that it might actually not be safe. But
you know it's at least a step in the right direction.
You know, they can't use glyph is a directly on
the food unless they're cheating, and of course there's always
a possibility that they're cheating, but I think buying certified
organic to me is a very important thing to do. Also,
(45:29):
if you can befriends your farmer and you have a
local farmer that you trust and who assures you that
they're not using chemicals, probably can get really good food
buying directly from the farm.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Oh, that is such great advice, and Doctor Sinev. Since
we only have a few minutes left, I'd love for
you to share your contact information with our listeners and
also let them know what might be coming up for
you or what you're embarking on next.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Okay, Yeah, my web page is definitely said have done that,
and I'm lately I've been very interested in deterim and
I'll just mention that now deiturium is heavy hydrogen, and
I've been very I've discovered that it's extremely interesting as
a toxic exposure to the mitochondria and the gp A
messes it up. And so I have a bunch of
interviews and presentations that I've been doing recently on that topic.
(46:22):
Very very fascinating and I'm really gripped by it, and
I'm trying to understand the biology behind how deuterium, which
is heavy hydrogen, how it works into biology and how
we manage it and how glyph is A messes it up.
So that's my latest thing.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Wow, that sounds fantastic and I can't wait to hear
some of your toksin bread some of your information. And
here we have one more question. And when we have
a couple of minutes left, why do they put the
organic right.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
Next to you and transfer setting next to each other.
That's next question. I don't think the glyph is it
would actually migrate, you know, like evaporate and go over
to the other products. I don't think you need to
worry about that. Yeah, and I do think that sometimes
they have organics all in one place, and other times
they have them each each section has an organic corner somewhere,
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so it gets hard to find the organics sometimes. But
there's more and more. I'm actually really pleased with Costco
and of course Whole Foods, and then even the regular
grocery stores increasingly have organic choices. I've seen a progression
over the past ten years. It's been really delightful to
see increased availability of organic foods.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
I'll agree with you on that, and I really believe
that when we spend our money, that is a vote
for that farmer who's either poisoning or not poisoning.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
Exactly, vote with the pocketbook. Yeah, very powerful.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Well, I just love talking with you today. I would
love to have you back on and in this last minute,
doctor Sinnef, if you would like to share a partying
thought with our listeners before we have to sign off,
that would be really low flee.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
Well, I would just encourage everybody to think in terms
of eating certified organic. Tell your friends and neighbors, your
government try to encourage this movement towards certified organic whole
foods because I think that's a path towards good health,
and I think our country desperately needs that.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Oh what a good amount of information you've shared with
us today, and I can't thank you enough. And for
all you listeners out there, Doctor Sinnif and I send
you great love and we wish you a peaceful, healthy life.
Thank you.