July 22, 2025 • 47 mins
Nancy Addison talks with Cathy O’Brien, author and nationally/internationally recognized US Government Whistleblower. Cathy has been speaking out for over 35 years on her experience in MK Ultra mind control. Her knowledge is our defense against mind control, and Cathy’s experience on a White House/Pentagon level empowers her insight into far reaching effects of mind control on society and what you can do to reclaim, protect, and expand your free thought. Website: https://trance-formation.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
Welcome beautiful people to organic healthy lifestyle and I'm Nancy Addison,
your host, and I love to start off my show
with a prayer, and if you'll just join me in
whichever way you would like, I ask our divine creator,
please allow your love for us to extinguish any fear
that we may have. Enable us to become quiet and
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focused on your spirit of divine love. May we feel
the waves of peace washing over us in the earth
and clearing away any anxiety or negative situations. We claim
and to clear your grace and love and promises, and
gratefully accept your gifts of strength, compassion, fortitude, flexibility, wisdom, insight,
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and perfect health. Bring peace to our souls that passes
all worldly understanding, and make us a light for others
to see your strength. I asked this in the highest
good of all concerned for everyone listening now and then
everyone listening in the future. Thank you, and so it is,
And today I just wanted to make a quick announcement.
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This is my twelfth year being in the show. This
is my five hundred and thirty third show, and I
was notified recently that I'm in the top one hundred
healthy eating podcasts in the world and also in the
top one hundred nutrition podcasts in the world, and so
that was very nice to find out. And you know,
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I always love sharing what I consider the authentic truth
with y'all, and you know, held nutrition, lifestyle, but also
on life and so much of what our lives are
like it has to do with our mental thoughts and
how all of this ties together. So today I have
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someone who I consider a true angel. And all we
are all born in various circumstances and challenged to by
various things throughout our lives, but this lady was particularly
challenged and the things that she has overcome have just
been monumental and with the help of a true angel.
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And so today we have Kathy O'Brien on and she
is the author of some amazing books. One of them
is called Transformation of America, The True Story of a
CIA Mind Control Slave, and she co authored that with
her angel rescuer Mark Phillips, and then she also wrote
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another book called Access Denied for Reasons of National Security,
documented journey from CIA mind control slave to government whistle blower,
and just incredible books. I highly recommend him. But she
is a nationally internationally recognized US government whistle blower and
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she's been speaking out for over thirty five years on
her experiences with MK ultra mind control and her knowledge
of the defense against mind control, and her experience with
the White House and Pentagon levels just give her amazing
insight into far reaching aspects of mind control and society
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and in different ways that maybe you could help reclaim
and protect and expand your free thought in your life.
Welcome to the show today, Kathy.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Thank you for having me on. I'm so excited to
have this conversation with you, and I really appreciate the
important information you've been putting out there for so long.
This is amazing. Oh you're so sweet.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Thank you so much, And you know, kudos to you
for all the great information you've been putting out there too. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I've been speaking out for over thirty five years on
MK ultra control and healing from it, and I'm so excited.
That we've finally reached this point of solutions because people
are waking up to realize that our lives have been
manipulated in many, many ways, and it's time we take
back our freedom. We take back our freedom fear and
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impose trauma to be able to realign with a divine
within and live life the way that it's intended to
be lived. So well, what an exciting time to be
speaking out.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Oh, thank thank you, and yes, it's so welcome for
so many people around the world. I feel very sure
because you know you've been through untold, believable, unbelievable traumas
that this really was hard to read about. Really I
had to take it in in sections because I had
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to like regroup and pull myself together because it was
such a deep, heavy story. So I just I just
applaud you for your unbelievable strength and or strength. And
I really think you have divine spark of God in
you that's just magnificent, or you wouldn't be here today
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to talk to us.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
In Uh, we definitely feel that way. I feel so
blessed to have survived my ordeal and to be here.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Oh my goodness. Well, I have to admit this week,
I've been very you know, just on the edge of
my seat. I was so excited about having you on.
And one of the things that I've heard you talk
about recently. And I'm an author as well as you know,
and I write all the time, like I like handwrite
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things in little notebooks all the time, and it's almost it,
you know. I've had people go, you know, why don't
you just use a computer, you know, why don't you
just you know, dictate into your phone or whatever. And
it's like, for some reason, I've always felt like it's
more healing for me when I write. And I learned
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a while back that the writing actually connects your mind
and your heart. And you were talking about something like this,
and when when Mark rescued you and your daughter in
nineteen eighty eight, your little eight year old daughter who
had just been horribly traumatized and brutalized her whole lifequently
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because and they make you'd witness it. You know, how
in the world did he bring you all out of
that in order to be able to be the beautiful
soul that that you're able to exist as today.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Well, Mark was working the highest levels of intelligence mind
sciences to preserve the sanctity of free thought. And he
was so disturbed to see how mind control was being
used on a global population for a globalist slave society
agenda to make people more compliant. The people were being
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dumbed down, and that means the neuron pathways in their
brain were actually being shut down through trauma after trauma,
through repetitive media narrative, through mind manipulation, and people didn't
have a defense against it because information on our birthright,
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information on our mind brain function was buried under national security.
When Mark saw that, you know that we were being
taken away from our humanity through ignorance. This information was
omitted from the medical, mental health community, the education system,
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and society as a whole. And Mark was livid. He
just couldn't release the information, but he could take action.
And by the time he saw little children being taken
in and out of the White House and compromising judges
and people in positions of power and influence through very
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deliberate blackmail operations. We're hearing about more and more of
these days with Epstein Island and all. Mark had seen
all that going on, and he was very disturbed over
what was being done to humanity. So he decided to
take action, and fortunately for me, he lifted my daughter
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and me right out of the Washington, DC human trafficking
swamp in nineteen eighty eight and handed me keys to
my own mind. People can look into what my experiences
were in mk Ultra. Through the book. He mentioned Transformation
of America, which is actually compiled for my testimony for Congress,
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and it was never meant for the public. It was
meant for Congress who had a point of reference for
the information. And they can also see what Mark found
buried under national security that birthright information and PTSD time
to heal. It's posted on my website transformation dot com,
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so everybody can have access to it.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Now.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
It has a pay what you can, if you can option,
so you can download it for free. MOO. People do
and have that information that has been withheld from us.
It's not about me, it's about us all. It's a
reminder of our birthright information. So that information will help
us to defend ourselves against mind manipulation going forward. It
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will help us to reclaim our mind brain function, to
open the neuron pathways in our brain so that we
can think free and think clear. And it's just such
an opportunity for all of us. Everyone is needing this
right now to realize, Oh, we have been kept at
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a low vibration and manipulated for generations. But it's very
easy for us to reclaim our birthright information because when
we reclaim our free thought, free will, soul expression, we
reclaim our moral compass, our discernment of truth, our ability
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to align with the strength of the human spirit, that
infinite power of love, align with the divine then and
start living life's purpose the way it was intended, free
of the imposed, very deliberate mind control of the global
population that we've all been experiencing.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Thank you so much. That was very eloquent, Kathy. We
have a question here from Ben and the for the
listeners out there, he's asking, what is mk ultra? Can
you just touch on that, on that program that you
were subjected to literally starting as a.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Toddler, Absolutely, i'mk ultra. Mind control was as a scientific formula.
That formula is the same whether it's of an individual,
a classroom, a church, a military, a nation, or the world,
and trauma is the basis of it. The other components
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of mk ultra mind control are sleep, food, and water. Deprivation,
because if our brains are starved of sleep, food, and water,
it doesn't fire properly, and we become more compliant and
easily led. So when we understand that that is part
of the formula, we understand why our food is being
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bioengineered and genetically altered to starve our brains of nutrients,
why our water is tainted, why we're having to work
nine to five, five to nine to put food on
the table that doesn't have nutritional value. It's all by design.
And this has been going on ever since. That formula
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for mind control was brought into the US through Project
paper Clip in the wake of World War Two. Everyone
can research for that for themselves and realize we didn't
win World War Two. We brought the Nazi and fasiast
scientists into the US and with them came that formula
for mind control that was being used on Nazi Germany.
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That formula has been used on the population ever since.
It's a global agenda, so it's been used on a
global population now for generations, and the information has been
kept secret and buried under national security because knowledge is
our defense against mind control, and that they didn't want
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us to have that knowledge. Once we have that knowledge,
we have the truth that makes us free, and we're
able to start reclaiming the sanctity of free thought and
the beauty of life as it's intended to be lived
going forward.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Oh yes, thank you. And then Joy or Jay is
asking what you mean by birthright information.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Birthright information is what we were born with. It's simple
understanding of our own mind brain function. Like when trauma
occurs that it causes our conscious mind to freeze in
fright and leaves our subconscious mind wide open to be
an easily led and manipulated. Without our conscious mind filter,
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we just take information in, especially if it's a repetitive
media narrative of repetition three times. That's why while we
were all scared of mind control, masks is a virus
twenty twenty when it was unleashed on the global population, well,
we were terrified and afraid that we were going to
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have to comply or Grandma was going to die. I mean,
that's just horrible. What was done to the population. What
did we hear masks up social distance, get the injection.
How many times do we hear that that program our
subconscious mind into compliance? So that is a great example
of the kind of mind brain function that has been
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repressed from society. If that, if people hadn't forgotten that,
if that birthright information was still readily accessible, everyone would
have done what I did because I have the knowledge
that's my defense against mind control. I've reclaimed that birthright
information and understanding. So because of that, I didn't comply
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with a thing, and there's no way I'm ever going
to when I recognize components of mind control. So that
is our birthright information, very simple, and it's what we
all need to know in order to protect the sanctity
of free thought going forward.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Thank you so much for that. That was beautiful, And
so let's let's delve into how in the world you
were able to heal from the unbelievable trauma that you
experienced really your whole life.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, it had been found in that Hitler Himmler research
that was brought into the US through Project paper Clip,
that there's no trauma or horrific on the human mind
the sexual abuse of a child prior to age five
while the brain is still forming. That is something we
all need to understand so that we realized howaphile agenda
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that's being pushed is actually a mind control agenda intended
to create a compliance society. I bring this up because
it goes back to that birthright information on our mind
brain function. We need to understand that our brains have
autogenic brain response mechanisms in them. The sexual abuse that
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I endured from infancy isn't something that I could have
under understood was wrong. I didn't know what my father
was doing was wrong, but my brain knew it was wrong.
So my brain knew I was enduring the pain and
suffocation of his abuse, and it actually physically shut down
neuron pathways around that trauma, compartmentalizing that traumatic memory, pushing
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it deep into the subconscious so the rest of the
mind could develop and function normally. This is called the
mind's sain defense the trauma too horrible to comprehend. It's
an automatic, autogenic brain mechanism by the same design, this
miracle design of our amazing brains. When Mark Phillips lifted
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my daughter and me out of the MK Ultra human
trafficking swamp, I had no ability to even think to
trust him. I didn't know good people existed in the world.
I didn't know there was a place where people didn't
hurt each other. And even though that was no part
of my life's experience and I didn't know that, my
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brain knew that my daughter and I were safe. And
because of that, those neuron pathways that had been shot
down opened, they reopened, and as they reopened, the memory
started to leak out. That repress memory started to flash
across my mind and intrude on my present. And as
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it did, Mark told me, he said, just write out
what you're seeing. Write out these memories that are flashy.
Pick up a pen, because the pen activates the logic
critical analysis part of the brain, and write it out.
You have to use that critical analysis part of the
brain to move a pen. Typing does not do the
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same thing. But as I pick up that pen and
paper and started writing, it shifted that emotionally incomprehensible trauma
over to logic, where it was written out on paper,
consciously seen, and all of a sudden, I began healing psychiatrically, psychologically, emotionally,
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and ultimately spiritually by using this one simple little brain
hack of picking up a pen and paper and writing
out this memory that was starting to surface. I encourage
everyone to pick up that pen and paper, write out
your trauma, Rite out your fear, write out what's immobilizing,
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and then add a solution. Because if you add a
solution that forces more neuron pathways in the brain to
open up to even have to think of that, it
lifts you out of that dark fear and trauma. It
gives it's like rising above the storm to get a
clear path forward. You know, you could get a view
to be able to see where you're going from there.
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So that opens more neuroon pathways in the brain. So,
like I was saying, mind control shuts them down, we
need to open them back up. And the combination of
the birthright information on our own mind brain function was
a major part of the healing process. And then picking
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up that pen and paper made it that much easier
and accelerated my healing process. So it's within us all
to heal. We have been blessed with resiliency of body, mind,
and spirit. We all can heal. Whatever happens to us
in life is not who we are. Who we are
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is still within and it's within us all to remember
that we have been blessed with that healing capacity all along.
We just need to access it and utilize it and
realize that we have been made perfect. We don't need vaccines,
we don't need big pharma, we don't need these intrusions
on our lives. We certainly don't need our food bioengineered
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and genetically altered. We need the organic, healthy life that
we've been intended to live by reclaiming our own free thought,
free will, soul expression.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
That was a great explanation of that. But one of
the things I had listened to you saying when Sai'd
love for you to expand on a little bit of
this is when you're writing, it tells you're subconscious that
you're dealing with this and you're releasing it or letting
it go. Did I hear that right?
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Absolutely? Because when we don't have our conscious thought and
our subconscious tries to get us get our attention, our
conscious attention to deal with whatever that underlying issue is,
it will come in many ways. It start flashing on
our mindscreen, It might intrude in there are ways where
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we we might even it might even show physically, you know,
because if we're not paying attention to our own minds
because we're distracted by you know, the latest, the latest
little text, or you know whatever, shallow narrow thing that
we've been conditioned with these days, twiddling our thumbs on
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our cell phone. There, if we're not paying attention, then
it may manifest physically to remind us that we had
a trauma that we need consciously deal with, because when
we consciously deal with it, that frees us from it
being triggered anymore, it frees us from having to have
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it physically manifest. So in that regard, Nancy, it's a
really good way to be able to stay healthy to
pick up that pen and paper and write out these
these nagging annoyances, these undermining that happens to us, so
that we're free to live life in all of its
in all of its beauty and miracles and glory.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
So lovely, and I love that you added that part
of this therapy is to write out a solution, a
possible solution.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Absolutely, because so often people get bogged down in the negativity.
Can you imagine what a different world this would be
if social media had a rule that you could voice
no negatives without a solution. I mean, people couldn't complain
and just just you know, and parent each other's complaints
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and fears, and instead we would all have to think
in terms of solutions, because ultimately that's what's needed these days,
and it begins within each and every one of us.
It's up to us to govern our own life, to
start making the positive difference for ourselves. And that you know,
that solution could be something as simple as feeding our
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brains good nutrition, growing our own organic, healthy foods, and
feeding our brains accordingly. That alone could get our brains
firing so good that we're going to be so brilliant
that we're going to be able to shine our light
so bright that this dark, negative energy force we're all
being bombarded with can't creep in on our lives anymore.
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Darkness can't creep in on light. You know, light just
exposes what's going on in the darkness, and we need
to be able to shine more brightly. And there's so
many different ways we can do it when we're focused
on solutions and listening to our bodies and feeding it
what it truly needs, and that is healthy living, healthy
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organic foods and pure water, light your resh.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, that's so great. And so we have Oscar asking
a question, and you want to know what frequency do
we know to vibrate out? But I think that goes
with Kin's question also because he's asking about the penial gland,
and so you know, you're talking about writing and how
it's affecting the brain. So can you tie any of
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the frequency or the penial gland into an explanation of
how this kind of therapy might help with that.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Yeah, Well, I was deep in the swamp among these
global perpetrators who are using mind control and the global
population to make us more compliant, and haven't been around
these perpetrators, I can assure you that they are a
very low vibration, a dark, negative energy force. They feed
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off of negative energy. They feed off of fear, They
feed off a trauma, they feed off a division and hatred,
and they can't even the greatest fear is the strength
of the human spirit. Because it's such a high frequency,
they can't even touch it. The only thing they can
do is use mind to control to inhibit our ability
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to think, to gather our strength of spirit to live
that high vibration. Instead, we're being bombarded with that negativity
to keep us at their low vibration level. When we
realize their greatest fear is the strength of the human spirit,
that infinite power of love, because of its high vibration.
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We realize then that we need to only reclaim our
free thought, free will, soul expression, our strength is spirit
and that infinite power of love, and start living that
high vibration. And that would be that's just that's their
greatest fear. That's game over. We win, they lose, and
all all we need to do is remember that we
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have all the power. They only have as much power
as we give them or let them steal. Their darkness
can't creep in on our light anymore. When we reclaim
our own power and start living the love we are.
It's such a simple solution in one regard, and at
the same time it gives us deep insight into how
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what we're experiencing these days is genuinely and really a
spiritual warfare, that we are already one when we remember
who we are and why we're here.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I love that viewpoint that is so beautiful, and so
I understand love is like the most powerful frequency, the
most powerful force in the universe. And I think back
about Jesus's words where he said love thy enemy, and
I heard someone say one day, well, if your enemy,
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if you're loving your enemy, and love is the most
powerful force in the universe. Doesn't that just dissolve their vibration?
I mean, doesn't it just kind of it's all thinking, Yeah,
I mean, who's holding the power if you're standing in
uh divine love? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I gave a lot of thought to that in my
healing process because I was always told you got to
forgive your abusers, and I thought, well, I don't control
I don't condone their abuse, you know, and I don't
want to say that it's okay, because it's not. They're
hurting other children right now. You know that it's got
to stop. And so I really dealt with the semantics
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of the whole thing, and I found that if I
tried to love my abusers, they couldn't receive that vibration anyway.
So ultimately I chose to live the love I am,
and that is more than forgiveness. Understanding their their frequency
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is so much better than forgiving them because ultimately, if
we share that information and people understand what they're doing
and why they're doing it, that gives us the knowledge
that's our defense against their mind control, and it's game over.
We win, they lose, and ultimately we're talking about the
same thing. Love is the greatest healer. Love always wins,
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and it's a matter of us living that love now.
And it's not that we have to love them, it's
that we have to love ourselves and each other and
start living that love, and ultimately that's our victory.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yes, it's so beautiful, so beautiful, And you know, I
look back in your book and there were parts of
it where you were, you know, so young and just
traumatized to the max by so of the most powerful
people in the world, are so called powerful people in
the world, and you would think to yourself, there must
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be people somewhere who don't hurt other people. And that,
to me tells me that your soul was just so
big and so beautiful that no matter how dark these
people were, they couldn't put out your light. And you
were putting out that beautiful vibration. And I think, you
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know that had to attract mark that vibe because we
attract like vibrations.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Right, That's a beautiful thought. And you know, mind control
would not have been needed if I was like them.
I was never like them, and they couldn't make me
be one of them, no matter what they did, because
who I am inside today is who I was inside them.
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You know, we've all got that the beauty of ourselves
inside of us and the purity and innocence of it
is something we all need to reclaim. No matter what
happens to us in life. It doesn't taint that. It
doesn't change that. And you know, as as we're starting
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to understand the pervasiveness of mind control and seeing how many,
how many ways people have been manipulated and how extensive
it is, as we factor it into the justice equation
and and everything else, it's it's so important for us
to realize that mind control is used on the people
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who don't comply, you know, and that says a lot
about the extent of manipulation going on. There's very few
of these dark negative energy force perpetrators. They just make
themselves look like more with mind control, blackmail and coertion
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the other ways that they manipulate people to keep their
vibration low. Ultimately, there's not that many of them, and
as more and more of us wake up to reclaim
that strength to human spirit, we evolve with the knowledge
that's our defense against mind control going forward, because when
we're consciously aware of the components, we don't cooperate with it.
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It's an evolutionary process that we're in right now. So
it's like a mentally and spiritually evolutionary times that we're living.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, yes, yes, I love the way you put things,
and so it makes me think. When the whole victimic started,
I remember thinking, you know, this is just lead to Chris.
They're telling everybody to do exactly the opposite of what
they should be doing if this was really happening. And
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I had Shery Tenpenny on my show and she said, Nancy,
they have been hitting us with over a billion a billion,
that's with a b types of misinformation to carry through
this COVID scam thing. And it was just a mind
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blowing number. But they had you know, covered the signs
on the highways and on your computer and on your
emails and on anything out in public, and you know,
everybody had those crazy things, you know, stand six feet apart,
and people were actually doing it.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yeah, just blew my mind.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I was like, you know, this little seventy year old
lady would walk in that's me with no mask and
acting like everything's hunky dory and fine, and I would
just ignore these people and I.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
And you know, they said, you know that we had
to stand six feet apart because to the subconscious mind,
that's six feet apart or six feet under do or die.
If we didn't stay away from each other, we would die.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
That was what the message, subliminally and overtly was for
all of us and the poor children. What we did
to the children, the children masking them up, because masks
are used in MK ultra mind control on a white
House Pentagon level because of the depersonalization effect that it
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has on when you can't see a face, you don't
know if somebody is smiling or sneering, You don't have
the intricacies of the components of their their faces. More importantly,
those masks muffled voices, especially from speed away, and then
they inhibit oxygen to the brain necessary for critical analysis,
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free thought. So those masks were absent polutely a mind
control device all along, very detrimental to the physical and
mental health of everyone wearing them. And it was so
disturbing to see that. So when I would see little
children having to wear those masks and frightened little eyes
(35:17):
behind them, I would always smile at them. And it
doesn't help to scream, you know, take off a mask,
because people who are programmed can't hear over that program
buzzing in their ears. So the best thing we can
do is just lead by example. And I would just
smile and they would see that I was okay, that
(35:37):
it was it was all right. I would use all
of my pelepathy and heart and energy to beam at them.
You know, we're all okay, you're going to be okay.
This is you know, we don't have to be so afraid,
and you know, doing all I could that way, because
that's you know, ultimately, all we can do for each
(35:58):
other is just lead by example. We can't live other
people's lives for them, but we certainly can give them
a lot of comfort when we live the love we
are and live truth and stop complying with this dark,
negative agenda.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
So so true, and I love that you are sending him,
you know, telepathic communication, because I truly believe that it
is so powerful, and people all have this this ability,
but they don't they they've been taught not to use it.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Right absolutely well, you know, it goes right back to
that first question on the birthright information, that is our
birthright information. We have all kinds of heightened senses intuitions,
abilities to align with the divine, to be in sync
(36:56):
and synchronicity with the most miraculous timing and flow. We
have so many abilities that we have forgotten about, including
those telepathic abilities. Now all we need to do is
look at our our pets, look at our dogs, you know,
and our dogs are communicating to us with their telepathy.
(37:17):
They have an ability to attune to energy. They can
remind us all that we have that this says our
birthright information and it's within assault to access it. That
we have the most beautiful body, minded spirit. We have
the resiliency, we have the this more capacity for thinking
then than we then we realize we have a lot
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to reclaim and a lot to regain in our own
beautiful brains.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Thank you. Yes. And so when when you were healing
yourself from and I suppose we're all on a continual
process of healing ourselves all the time, but when you
were really dug in and you were hereilling yourself from
thirty years of just unfrigg unbelievable trauma, did speaking out
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or was it just writing or was there various components
into did you like have affirmations or did you speak
anything out or is that necessary.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Speaking can re traumatize, So it was very important to
write it out because when it opens the neuron pathways
in the brain, then that repressed memory can't be triggered anymore.
So in that regard, I could not be triggered back in.
What compelled me to speak out was love for my daughter.
My daughter had been caught up in the criminally corrupt
(38:44):
so called child protective services. They did what they termed
these days is a medical kidnapping of her when she
was in the hospital and took custody of her and
put her in this corrupt system. I was speaking out
out of love and concern for her. You know again,
love is the greatest motivator, it's the greatest healer. And
(39:08):
it was love for her that that got me speaking out.
It wasn't bitterness, hatred, or you know, anything about my abusers.
It was all about love. It was love for her,
love for humanity, love for the children. And ultimately that
(39:29):
that's why I began speaking out, and that that was
that was very healing in that it was love for
her that motivated me to heal fast so that I
could affect her situation.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
That's so important for people to know. And and I
think in some ways, if you've been traumatized and you're
in a process of healing, when you do speak out,
you know, frequently people will come from a place of
victimization and they they don't know how to take I
(40:04):
suppose control or ownership of their true spirit, their true heart,
and you know, let that trauma go. And like what
you were saying, well ago, you know, forgiveness is beautiful
and it's ultimately the nicest gift you can give. But
for people absolutely void of love, you just don't know,
you know, if that's even gonna be able to reach them.
(40:27):
It might just like disintegrate their vibration. But but really,
when when you're forgiving people, you're not condoning what they did.
You're you're letting it go from being something that you're
you know, lugging around with you for the rest of
your life, right.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Absolutely, you know, And that is important. And it's like
I had this this realization, you know, of their their
their low vibration, and it was like, you know, they
got fear and trauma from me the first thirty years
of my life, They're not going to get anymore. I
don't live in I don't live in bitterness or hatred,
(41:06):
none of that. I just live absolutely you're in love,
and in so many ways that is like an ultimate
justice because they can't they can't reach that, and it's
it's almost laughable to see when they realized they couldn't
trigger me back in, when they realized that their secrets
(41:29):
were no longer safe, you know, they had quite a
quite a profound realization that people can heal, and that
they can heal to live love and not live in
fear of them anymore. So it's it's vibrationally, it's it's
(41:49):
within us. We got the victory, but it's a matter
of realizing it and not speaking out too soon. We
speak out too soon and expect people to to sympathize.
They don't always do that. They're not always kind. When
I was speaking out on this in nineteen ninety, people
didn't even know that there was a swamp in Washington,
(42:12):
d C. Or what mind control was about. They didn't
they didn't know all of that. They didn't validate me,
and it's a good thing I didn't need them to
because instead I realized, Wow, these people are so kind
and sweet that they can't even wrap their brain around
this dark, negative reality. So it gave me an ability
(42:34):
to wake up to the good side of life, to
realize that people were so sweet and loving and blind
to what was going on out of their own inability
to wrap their brains around it. And it was a
very different experience than speaking out and expecting people to
(42:56):
validate my experience. I didn't need that. I knew my
own truth by the time I started speaking out, so
it's a good thing I did, and it gave me
an ability to embrace their reality. And it was like, Wow,
there's good people everywhere.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Oh Kathy, I am so grateful for you speaking out,
and I know that there's probably millions of people who
are also very grateful that for your bravery and oh
my goodness, I think of you like a Joan of
arc You're just incredible. But unfortunately, the time goes quickly
(43:31):
on this show, and we've got four minutes left and
we still had a few questions here, and I'm going
to save those questions and hope that Kathy will come
back and join us again in a future show and
maybe be able to expand on some of these other
areas that she is just so knowledgeable about. But Kathy,
(43:53):
just you know, as we're just kind of winding on
the show, tell everybody your contact information again in what
might be coming up for you that you think is
important for people to know today.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Well, yeah, they can go to my website at trance
dashformation dot com, p r A n CE hyphen formation
dot com and look into PTSD time to heal. That's
pertinent information. They can download it. It's it's secured on
my site with a pay what you can if you
(44:27):
can option. Most people zero it out and can have
it for free. It's just secured, so I encourage everyone
look into it. This is the information that Mark Phillips
found buried under national security. It's our birthright information, not
about me. It's about us all and we all need
to remember who we are and why we're here. So
(44:49):
you can get that and get in touch with me,
get further information, find my books on tranced formation dot
com or on audible and reach out to me too
through my website transformation dot com.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Yes, and she is so gracious, and y'all, I can't
I can't recommend her books enough. They'll just shift your world.
And if you think the US government is above board
and doing everything in your best interests. I have to
recommend these books because she's got some facts in there
(45:29):
and details that you will not find anywhere else, and
they will tell you the true picture of who really
is pulling the strings around us. But Kathy, I just
so honored to have you on today. I can't thank
you enough for all your beautiful information and help with
everyone healing from their trauma. And I hope you'll come
(45:53):
back and join us and get her to answer some
of these other questions that people had, and maybe just
if if you have a minute, and you could just
give us a parting thought that people might be able
to take away with them today from our show. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Absolutely, I look forward to coming back and answering more questions.
And I think you know this, This merging of our information, Nancy,
is especially important because when people have organic, healthy lifestyles,
when they eat organically, when they know how to listen
to their bodies and feed it accordingly, that will make
(46:30):
our brains fire brighter, more brilliant, and it will help
us all shine bright. Ultimately, that's what we need. So yeah,
I'm so happy for what you do. Thank you for
having me on.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Oh well, it was my extreme pleasure, and so everyone
out there. I know Kathy has this owner website, but
everybody go out there and get out in nature.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Yes, it gets its.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
Sundshine and fresh air this week. And I'll try to
get Kathy set up for a following show coming up
in the next few weeks and and hope she can
join us. And for y'all out there, Kathy and I
send us your best, send you our best and wish
you a beautiful life. Stay strong, and we wish you
(47:20):
perfect health.
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Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise,
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
Welcome beautiful people to organic healthy lifestyle and I'm Nancy Addison,
your host, and I love to start off my show
with a prayer, and if you'll just join me in
whichever way you would like, I ask our divine creator,
please allow your love for us to extinguish any fear
that we may have. Enable us to become quiet and
(00:57):
focused on your spirit of divine love. May we feel
the waves of peace washing over us in the earth
and clearing away any anxiety or negative situations. We claim
and to clear your grace and love and promises, and
gratefully accept your gifts of strength, compassion, fortitude, flexibility, wisdom, insight,
(01:18):
and perfect health. Bring peace to our souls that passes
all worldly understanding, and make us a light for others
to see your strength. I asked this in the highest
good of all concerned for everyone listening now and then
everyone listening in the future. Thank you, and so it is,
And today I just wanted to make a quick announcement.
(01:39):
This is my twelfth year being in the show. This
is my five hundred and thirty third show, and I
was notified recently that I'm in the top one hundred
healthy eating podcasts in the world and also in the
top one hundred nutrition podcasts in the world, and so
that was very nice to find out. And you know,
(02:02):
I always love sharing what I consider the authentic truth
with y'all, and you know, held nutrition, lifestyle, but also
on life and so much of what our lives are
like it has to do with our mental thoughts and
how all of this ties together. So today I have
(02:22):
someone who I consider a true angel. And all we
are all born in various circumstances and challenged to by
various things throughout our lives, but this lady was particularly
challenged and the things that she has overcome have just
been monumental and with the help of a true angel.
(02:47):
And so today we have Kathy O'Brien on and she
is the author of some amazing books. One of them
is called Transformation of America, The True Story of a
CIA Mind Control Slave, and she co authored that with
her angel rescuer Mark Phillips, and then she also wrote
(03:07):
another book called Access Denied for Reasons of National Security,
documented journey from CIA mind control slave to government whistle blower,
and just incredible books. I highly recommend him. But she
is a nationally internationally recognized US government whistle blower and
(03:30):
she's been speaking out for over thirty five years on
her experiences with MK ultra mind control and her knowledge
of the defense against mind control, and her experience with
the White House and Pentagon levels just give her amazing
insight into far reaching aspects of mind control and society
(03:51):
and in different ways that maybe you could help reclaim
and protect and expand your free thought in your life.
Welcome to the show today, Kathy.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Thank you for having me on. I'm so excited to
have this conversation with you, and I really appreciate the
important information you've been putting out there for so long.
This is amazing. Oh you're so sweet.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Thank you so much, And you know, kudos to you
for all the great information you've been putting out there too. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I've been speaking out for over thirty five years on
MK ultra control and healing from it, and I'm so excited.
That we've finally reached this point of solutions because people
are waking up to realize that our lives have been
manipulated in many, many ways, and it's time we take
back our freedom. We take back our freedom fear and
(04:47):
impose trauma to be able to realign with a divine
within and live life the way that it's intended to
be lived. So well, what an exciting time to be
speaking out.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Oh, thank thank you, and yes, it's so welcome for
so many people around the world. I feel very sure
because you know you've been through untold, believable, unbelievable traumas
that this really was hard to read about. Really I
had to take it in in sections because I had
(05:21):
to like regroup and pull myself together because it was
such a deep, heavy story. So I just I just
applaud you for your unbelievable strength and or strength. And
I really think you have divine spark of God in
you that's just magnificent, or you wouldn't be here today
(05:43):
to talk to us.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
In Uh, we definitely feel that way. I feel so
blessed to have survived my ordeal and to be here.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Oh my goodness. Well, I have to admit this week,
I've been very you know, just on the edge of
my seat. I was so excited about having you on.
And one of the things that I've heard you talk
about recently. And I'm an author as well as you know,
and I write all the time, like I like handwrite
(06:14):
things in little notebooks all the time, and it's almost it,
you know. I've had people go, you know, why don't
you just use a computer, you know, why don't you
just you know, dictate into your phone or whatever. And
it's like, for some reason, I've always felt like it's
more healing for me when I write. And I learned
(06:35):
a while back that the writing actually connects your mind
and your heart. And you were talking about something like this,
and when when Mark rescued you and your daughter in
nineteen eighty eight, your little eight year old daughter who
had just been horribly traumatized and brutalized her whole lifequently
(07:00):
because and they make you'd witness it. You know, how
in the world did he bring you all out of
that in order to be able to be the beautiful
soul that that you're able to exist as today.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Well, Mark was working the highest levels of intelligence mind
sciences to preserve the sanctity of free thought. And he
was so disturbed to see how mind control was being
used on a global population for a globalist slave society
agenda to make people more compliant. The people were being
(07:39):
dumbed down, and that means the neuron pathways in their
brain were actually being shut down through trauma after trauma,
through repetitive media narrative, through mind manipulation, and people didn't
have a defense against it because information on our birthright,
(08:03):
information on our mind brain function was buried under national security.
When Mark saw that, you know that we were being
taken away from our humanity through ignorance. This information was
omitted from the medical, mental health community, the education system,
(08:23):
and society as a whole. And Mark was livid. He
just couldn't release the information, but he could take action.
And by the time he saw little children being taken
in and out of the White House and compromising judges
and people in positions of power and influence through very
(08:44):
deliberate blackmail operations. We're hearing about more and more of
these days with Epstein Island and all. Mark had seen
all that going on, and he was very disturbed over
what was being done to humanity. So he decided to
take action, and fortunately for me, he lifted my daughter
(09:07):
and me right out of the Washington, DC human trafficking
swamp in nineteen eighty eight and handed me keys to
my own mind. People can look into what my experiences
were in mk Ultra. Through the book. He mentioned Transformation
of America, which is actually compiled for my testimony for Congress,
(09:29):
and it was never meant for the public. It was
meant for Congress who had a point of reference for
the information. And they can also see what Mark found
buried under national security that birthright information and PTSD time
to heal. It's posted on my website transformation dot com,
(09:51):
so everybody can have access to it.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Now.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
It has a pay what you can, if you can option,
so you can download it for free. MOO. People do
and have that information that has been withheld from us.
It's not about me, it's about us all. It's a
reminder of our birthright information. So that information will help
us to defend ourselves against mind manipulation going forward. It
(10:19):
will help us to reclaim our mind brain function, to
open the neuron pathways in our brain so that we
can think free and think clear. And it's just such
an opportunity for all of us. Everyone is needing this
right now to realize, Oh, we have been kept at
(10:42):
a low vibration and manipulated for generations. But it's very
easy for us to reclaim our birthright information because when
we reclaim our free thought, free will, soul expression, we
reclaim our moral compass, our discernment of truth, our ability
(11:04):
to align with the strength of the human spirit, that
infinite power of love, align with the divine then and
start living life's purpose the way it was intended, free
of the imposed, very deliberate mind control of the global
population that we've all been experiencing.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Thank you so much. That was very eloquent, Kathy. We
have a question here from Ben and the for the
listeners out there, he's asking, what is mk ultra? Can
you just touch on that, on that program that you
were subjected to literally starting as a.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Toddler, Absolutely, i'mk ultra. Mind control was as a scientific formula.
That formula is the same whether it's of an individual,
a classroom, a church, a military, a nation, or the world,
and trauma is the basis of it. The other components
(12:09):
of mk ultra mind control are sleep, food, and water. Deprivation,
because if our brains are starved of sleep, food, and water,
it doesn't fire properly, and we become more compliant and
easily led. So when we understand that that is part
of the formula, we understand why our food is being
(12:32):
bioengineered and genetically altered to starve our brains of nutrients,
why our water is tainted, why we're having to work
nine to five, five to nine to put food on
the table that doesn't have nutritional value. It's all by design.
And this has been going on ever since. That formula
(12:52):
for mind control was brought into the US through Project
paper Clip in the wake of World War Two. Everyone
can research for that for themselves and realize we didn't
win World War Two. We brought the Nazi and fasiast
scientists into the US and with them came that formula
for mind control that was being used on Nazi Germany.
(13:16):
That formula has been used on the population ever since.
It's a global agenda, so it's been used on a
global population now for generations, and the information has been
kept secret and buried under national security because knowledge is
our defense against mind control, and that they didn't want
(13:39):
us to have that knowledge. Once we have that knowledge,
we have the truth that makes us free, and we're
able to start reclaiming the sanctity of free thought and
the beauty of life as it's intended to be lived
going forward.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Oh yes, thank you. And then Joy or Jay is
asking what you mean by birthright information.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Birthright information is what we were born with. It's simple
understanding of our own mind brain function. Like when trauma
occurs that it causes our conscious mind to freeze in
fright and leaves our subconscious mind wide open to be
an easily led and manipulated. Without our conscious mind filter,
(14:24):
we just take information in, especially if it's a repetitive
media narrative of repetition three times. That's why while we
were all scared of mind control, masks is a virus
twenty twenty when it was unleashed on the global population, well,
we were terrified and afraid that we were going to
(14:49):
have to comply or Grandma was going to die. I mean,
that's just horrible. What was done to the population. What
did we hear masks up social distance, get the injection.
How many times do we hear that that program our
subconscious mind into compliance? So that is a great example
of the kind of mind brain function that has been
(15:12):
repressed from society. If that, if people hadn't forgotten that,
if that birthright information was still readily accessible, everyone would
have done what I did because I have the knowledge
that's my defense against mind control. I've reclaimed that birthright
information and understanding. So because of that, I didn't comply
(15:35):
with a thing, and there's no way I'm ever going
to when I recognize components of mind control. So that
is our birthright information, very simple, and it's what we
all need to know in order to protect the sanctity
of free thought going forward.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Thank you so much for that. That was beautiful, And
so let's let's delve into how in the world you
were able to heal from the unbelievable trauma that you
experienced really your whole life.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, it had been found in that Hitler Himmler research
that was brought into the US through Project paper Clip,
that there's no trauma or horrific on the human mind
the sexual abuse of a child prior to age five
while the brain is still forming. That is something we
all need to understand so that we realized howaphile agenda
(16:34):
that's being pushed is actually a mind control agenda intended
to create a compliance society. I bring this up because
it goes back to that birthright information on our mind
brain function. We need to understand that our brains have
autogenic brain response mechanisms in them. The sexual abuse that
(16:55):
I endured from infancy isn't something that I could have
under understood was wrong. I didn't know what my father
was doing was wrong, but my brain knew it was wrong.
So my brain knew I was enduring the pain and
suffocation of his abuse, and it actually physically shut down
neuron pathways around that trauma, compartmentalizing that traumatic memory, pushing
(17:21):
it deep into the subconscious so the rest of the
mind could develop and function normally. This is called the
mind's sain defense the trauma too horrible to comprehend. It's
an automatic, autogenic brain mechanism by the same design, this
miracle design of our amazing brains. When Mark Phillips lifted
(17:45):
my daughter and me out of the MK Ultra human
trafficking swamp, I had no ability to even think to
trust him. I didn't know good people existed in the world.
I didn't know there was a place where people didn't
hurt each other. And even though that was no part
of my life's experience and I didn't know that, my
(18:06):
brain knew that my daughter and I were safe. And
because of that, those neuron pathways that had been shot
down opened, they reopened, and as they reopened, the memory
started to leak out. That repress memory started to flash
across my mind and intrude on my present. And as
(18:29):
it did, Mark told me, he said, just write out
what you're seeing. Write out these memories that are flashy.
Pick up a pen, because the pen activates the logic
critical analysis part of the brain, and write it out.
You have to use that critical analysis part of the
brain to move a pen. Typing does not do the
(18:50):
same thing. But as I pick up that pen and
paper and started writing, it shifted that emotionally incomprehensible trauma
over to logic, where it was written out on paper,
consciously seen, and all of a sudden, I began healing psychiatrically, psychologically, emotionally,
(19:12):
and ultimately spiritually by using this one simple little brain
hack of picking up a pen and paper and writing
out this memory that was starting to surface. I encourage
everyone to pick up that pen and paper, write out
your trauma, Rite out your fear, write out what's immobilizing,
(19:32):
and then add a solution. Because if you add a
solution that forces more neuron pathways in the brain to
open up to even have to think of that, it
lifts you out of that dark fear and trauma. It
gives it's like rising above the storm to get a
clear path forward. You know, you could get a view
to be able to see where you're going from there.
(19:56):
So that opens more neuroon pathways in the brain. So,
like I was saying, mind control shuts them down, we
need to open them back up. And the combination of
the birthright information on our own mind brain function was
a major part of the healing process. And then picking
(20:18):
up that pen and paper made it that much easier
and accelerated my healing process. So it's within us all
to heal. We have been blessed with resiliency of body, mind,
and spirit. We all can heal. Whatever happens to us
in life is not who we are. Who we are
(20:38):
is still within and it's within us all to remember
that we have been blessed with that healing capacity all along.
We just need to access it and utilize it and
realize that we have been made perfect. We don't need vaccines,
we don't need big pharma, we don't need these intrusions
on our lives. We certainly don't need our food bioengineered
(21:02):
and genetically altered. We need the organic, healthy life that
we've been intended to live by reclaiming our own free thought,
free will, soul expression.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
That was a great explanation of that. But one of
the things I had listened to you saying when Sai'd
love for you to expand on a little bit of
this is when you're writing, it tells you're subconscious that
you're dealing with this and you're releasing it or letting
it go. Did I hear that right?
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Absolutely? Because when we don't have our conscious thought and
our subconscious tries to get us get our attention, our
conscious attention to deal with whatever that underlying issue is,
it will come in many ways. It start flashing on
our mindscreen, It might intrude in there are ways where
(22:02):
we we might even it might even show physically, you know,
because if we're not paying attention to our own minds
because we're distracted by you know, the latest, the latest
little text, or you know whatever, shallow narrow thing that
we've been conditioned with these days, twiddling our thumbs on
(22:22):
our cell phone. There, if we're not paying attention, then
it may manifest physically to remind us that we had
a trauma that we need consciously deal with, because when
we consciously deal with it, that frees us from it
being triggered anymore, it frees us from having to have
(22:45):
it physically manifest. So in that regard, Nancy, it's a
really good way to be able to stay healthy to
pick up that pen and paper and write out these
these nagging annoyances, these undermining that happens to us, so
that we're free to live life in all of its
in all of its beauty and miracles and glory.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
So lovely, and I love that you added that part
of this therapy is to write out a solution, a
possible solution.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Absolutely, because so often people get bogged down in the negativity.
Can you imagine what a different world this would be
if social media had a rule that you could voice
no negatives without a solution. I mean, people couldn't complain
and just just you know, and parent each other's complaints
(23:39):
and fears, and instead we would all have to think
in terms of solutions, because ultimately that's what's needed these days,
and it begins within each and every one of us.
It's up to us to govern our own life, to
start making the positive difference for ourselves. And that you know,
that solution could be something as simple as feeding our
(24:02):
brains good nutrition, growing our own organic, healthy foods, and
feeding our brains accordingly. That alone could get our brains
firing so good that we're going to be so brilliant
that we're going to be able to shine our light
so bright that this dark, negative energy force we're all
being bombarded with can't creep in on our lives anymore.
(24:26):
Darkness can't creep in on light. You know, light just
exposes what's going on in the darkness, and we need
to be able to shine more brightly. And there's so
many different ways we can do it when we're focused
on solutions and listening to our bodies and feeding it
what it truly needs, and that is healthy living, healthy
(24:48):
organic foods and pure water, light your resh.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, that's so great. And so we have Oscar asking
a question, and you want to know what frequency do
we know to vibrate out? But I think that goes
with Kin's question also because he's asking about the penial gland,
and so you know, you're talking about writing and how
it's affecting the brain. So can you tie any of
(25:18):
the frequency or the penial gland into an explanation of
how this kind of therapy might help with that.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Yeah, Well, I was deep in the swamp among these
global perpetrators who are using mind control and the global
population to make us more compliant, and haven't been around
these perpetrators, I can assure you that they are a
very low vibration, a dark, negative energy force. They feed
(25:52):
off of negative energy. They feed off of fear, They
feed off a trauma, they feed off a division and hatred,
and they can't even the greatest fear is the strength
of the human spirit. Because it's such a high frequency,
they can't even touch it. The only thing they can
do is use mind to control to inhibit our ability
(26:17):
to think, to gather our strength of spirit to live
that high vibration. Instead, we're being bombarded with that negativity
to keep us at their low vibration level. When we
realize their greatest fear is the strength of the human spirit,
that infinite power of love, because of its high vibration.
(26:39):
We realize then that we need to only reclaim our
free thought, free will, soul expression, our strength is spirit
and that infinite power of love, and start living that
high vibration. And that would be that's just that's their
greatest fear. That's game over. We win, they lose, and
all all we need to do is remember that we
(27:03):
have all the power. They only have as much power
as we give them or let them steal. Their darkness
can't creep in on our light anymore. When we reclaim
our own power and start living the love we are.
It's such a simple solution in one regard, and at
the same time it gives us deep insight into how
(27:25):
what we're experiencing these days is genuinely and really a
spiritual warfare, that we are already one when we remember
who we are and why we're here.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I love that viewpoint that is so beautiful, and so
I understand love is like the most powerful frequency, the
most powerful force in the universe. And I think back
about Jesus's words where he said love thy enemy, and
I heard someone say one day, well, if your enemy,
(28:01):
if you're loving your enemy, and love is the most
powerful force in the universe. Doesn't that just dissolve their vibration?
I mean, doesn't it just kind of it's all thinking, Yeah,
I mean, who's holding the power if you're standing in
uh divine love? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I gave a lot of thought to that in my
healing process because I was always told you got to
forgive your abusers, and I thought, well, I don't control
I don't condone their abuse, you know, and I don't
want to say that it's okay, because it's not. They're
hurting other children right now. You know that it's got
to stop. And so I really dealt with the semantics
(28:46):
of the whole thing, and I found that if I
tried to love my abusers, they couldn't receive that vibration anyway.
So ultimately I chose to live the love I am,
and that is more than forgiveness. Understanding their their frequency
(29:08):
is so much better than forgiving them because ultimately, if
we share that information and people understand what they're doing
and why they're doing it, that gives us the knowledge
that's our defense against their mind control, and it's game over.
We win, they lose, and ultimately we're talking about the
same thing. Love is the greatest healer. Love always wins,
(29:33):
and it's a matter of us living that love now.
And it's not that we have to love them, it's
that we have to love ourselves and each other and
start living that love, and ultimately that's our victory.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yes, it's so beautiful, so beautiful, And you know, I
look back in your book and there were parts of
it where you were, you know, so young and just
traumatized to the max by so of the most powerful
people in the world, are so called powerful people in
the world, and you would think to yourself, there must
(30:09):
be people somewhere who don't hurt other people. And that,
to me tells me that your soul was just so
big and so beautiful that no matter how dark these
people were, they couldn't put out your light. And you
were putting out that beautiful vibration. And I think, you
(30:30):
know that had to attract mark that vibe because we
attract like vibrations.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Right, That's a beautiful thought. And you know, mind control
would not have been needed if I was like them.
I was never like them, and they couldn't make me
be one of them, no matter what they did, because
who I am inside today is who I was inside them.
(30:57):
You know, we've all got that the beauty of ourselves
inside of us and the purity and innocence of it
is something we all need to reclaim. No matter what
happens to us in life. It doesn't taint that. It
doesn't change that. And you know, as as we're starting
(31:18):
to understand the pervasiveness of mind control and seeing how many,
how many ways people have been manipulated and how extensive
it is, as we factor it into the justice equation
and and everything else, it's it's so important for us
to realize that mind control is used on the people
(31:43):
who don't comply, you know, and that says a lot
about the extent of manipulation going on. There's very few
of these dark negative energy force perpetrators. They just make
themselves look like more with mind control, blackmail and coertion
(32:05):
the other ways that they manipulate people to keep their
vibration low. Ultimately, there's not that many of them, and
as more and more of us wake up to reclaim
that strength to human spirit, we evolve with the knowledge
that's our defense against mind control going forward, because when
we're consciously aware of the components, we don't cooperate with it.
(32:30):
It's an evolutionary process that we're in right now. So
it's like a mentally and spiritually evolutionary times that we're living.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, yes, yes, I love the way you put things,
and so it makes me think. When the whole victimic started,
I remember thinking, you know, this is just lead to Chris.
They're telling everybody to do exactly the opposite of what
they should be doing if this was really happening. And
(33:01):
I had Shery Tenpenny on my show and she said, Nancy,
they have been hitting us with over a billion a billion,
that's with a b types of misinformation to carry through
this COVID scam thing. And it was just a mind
(33:22):
blowing number. But they had you know, covered the signs
on the highways and on your computer and on your
emails and on anything out in public, and you know,
everybody had those crazy things, you know, stand six feet apart,
and people were actually doing it.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yeah, just blew my mind.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I was like, you know, this little seventy year old
lady would walk in that's me with no mask and
acting like everything's hunky dory and fine, and I would
just ignore these people and I.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
And you know, they said, you know that we had
to stand six feet apart because to the subconscious mind,
that's six feet apart or six feet under do or die.
If we didn't stay away from each other, we would die.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
That was what the message, subliminally and overtly was for
all of us and the poor children. What we did
to the children, the children masking them up, because masks
are used in MK ultra mind control on a white
House Pentagon level because of the depersonalization effect that it
(34:32):
has on when you can't see a face, you don't
know if somebody is smiling or sneering, You don't have
the intricacies of the components of their their faces. More importantly,
those masks muffled voices, especially from speed away, and then
they inhibit oxygen to the brain necessary for critical analysis,
(34:57):
free thought. So those masks were absent polutely a mind
control device all along, very detrimental to the physical and
mental health of everyone wearing them. And it was so
disturbing to see that. So when I would see little
children having to wear those masks and frightened little eyes
(35:17):
behind them, I would always smile at them. And it
doesn't help to scream, you know, take off a mask,
because people who are programmed can't hear over that program
buzzing in their ears. So the best thing we can
do is just lead by example. And I would just
smile and they would see that I was okay, that
(35:37):
it was it was all right. I would use all
of my pelepathy and heart and energy to beam at them.
You know, we're all okay, you're going to be okay.
This is you know, we don't have to be so afraid,
and you know, doing all I could that way, because
that's you know, ultimately, all we can do for each
(35:58):
other is just lead by example. We can't live other
people's lives for them, but we certainly can give them
a lot of comfort when we live the love we
are and live truth and stop complying with this dark,
negative agenda.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
So so true, and I love that you are sending him,
you know, telepathic communication, because I truly believe that it
is so powerful, and people all have this this ability,
but they don't they they've been taught not to use it.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Right absolutely well, you know, it goes right back to
that first question on the birthright information, that is our
birthright information. We have all kinds of heightened senses intuitions,
abilities to align with the divine, to be in sync
(36:56):
and synchronicity with the most miraculous timing and flow. We
have so many abilities that we have forgotten about, including
those telepathic abilities. Now all we need to do is
look at our our pets, look at our dogs, you know,
and our dogs are communicating to us with their telepathy.
(37:17):
They have an ability to attune to energy. They can
remind us all that we have that this says our
birthright information and it's within assault to access it. That
we have the most beautiful body, minded spirit. We have
the resiliency, we have the this more capacity for thinking
then than we then we realize we have a lot
(37:39):
to reclaim and a lot to regain in our own
beautiful brains.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Thank you. Yes. And so when when you were healing
yourself from and I suppose we're all on a continual
process of healing ourselves all the time, but when you
were really dug in and you were hereilling yourself from
thirty years of just unfrigg unbelievable trauma, did speaking out
(38:08):
or was it just writing or was there various components
into did you like have affirmations or did you speak
anything out or is that necessary.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Speaking can re traumatize, So it was very important to
write it out because when it opens the neuron pathways
in the brain, then that repressed memory can't be triggered anymore.
So in that regard, I could not be triggered back in.
What compelled me to speak out was love for my daughter.
My daughter had been caught up in the criminally corrupt
(38:44):
so called child protective services. They did what they termed
these days is a medical kidnapping of her when she
was in the hospital and took custody of her and
put her in this corrupt system. I was speaking out
out of love and concern for her. You know again,
love is the greatest motivator, it's the greatest healer. And
(39:08):
it was love for her that that got me speaking out.
It wasn't bitterness, hatred, or you know, anything about my abusers.
It was all about love. It was love for her,
love for humanity, love for the children. And ultimately that
(39:29):
that's why I began speaking out, and that that was
that was very healing in that it was love for
her that motivated me to heal fast so that I
could affect her situation.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
That's so important for people to know. And and I
think in some ways, if you've been traumatized and you're
in a process of healing, when you do speak out,
you know, frequently people will come from a place of
victimization and they they don't know how to take I
(40:04):
suppose control or ownership of their true spirit, their true heart,
and you know, let that trauma go. And like what
you were saying, well ago, you know, forgiveness is beautiful
and it's ultimately the nicest gift you can give. But
for people absolutely void of love, you just don't know,
you know, if that's even gonna be able to reach them.
(40:27):
It might just like disintegrate their vibration. But but really,
when when you're forgiving people, you're not condoning what they did.
You're you're letting it go from being something that you're
you know, lugging around with you for the rest of
your life, right.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Absolutely, you know, And that is important. And it's like
I had this this realization, you know, of their their
their low vibration, and it was like, you know, they
got fear and trauma from me the first thirty years
of my life, They're not going to get anymore. I
don't live in I don't live in bitterness or hatred,
(41:06):
none of that. I just live absolutely you're in love,
and in so many ways that is like an ultimate
justice because they can't they can't reach that, and it's
it's almost laughable to see when they realized they couldn't
trigger me back in, when they realized that their secrets
(41:29):
were no longer safe, you know, they had quite a
quite a profound realization that people can heal, and that
they can heal to live love and not live in
fear of them anymore. So it's it's vibrationally, it's it's
(41:49):
within us. We got the victory, but it's a matter
of realizing it and not speaking out too soon. We
speak out too soon and expect people to to sympathize.
They don't always do that. They're not always kind. When
I was speaking out on this in nineteen ninety, people
didn't even know that there was a swamp in Washington,
(42:12):
d C. Or what mind control was about. They didn't
they didn't know all of that. They didn't validate me,
and it's a good thing I didn't need them to
because instead I realized, Wow, these people are so kind
and sweet that they can't even wrap their brain around
this dark, negative reality. So it gave me an ability
(42:34):
to wake up to the good side of life, to
realize that people were so sweet and loving and blind
to what was going on out of their own inability
to wrap their brains around it. And it was a
very different experience than speaking out and expecting people to
(42:56):
validate my experience. I didn't need that. I knew my
own truth by the time I started speaking out, so
it's a good thing I did, and it gave me
an ability to embrace their reality. And it was like, Wow,
there's good people everywhere.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Oh Kathy, I am so grateful for you speaking out,
and I know that there's probably millions of people who
are also very grateful that for your bravery and oh
my goodness, I think of you like a Joan of
arc You're just incredible. But unfortunately, the time goes quickly
(43:31):
on this show, and we've got four minutes left and
we still had a few questions here, and I'm going
to save those questions and hope that Kathy will come
back and join us again in a future show and
maybe be able to expand on some of these other
areas that she is just so knowledgeable about. But Kathy,
(43:53):
just you know, as we're just kind of winding on
the show, tell everybody your contact information again in what
might be coming up for you that you think is
important for people to know today.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Well, yeah, they can go to my website at trance
dashformation dot com, p r A n CE hyphen formation
dot com and look into PTSD time to heal. That's
pertinent information. They can download it. It's it's secured on
my site with a pay what you can if you
(44:27):
can option. Most people zero it out and can have
it for free. It's just secured, so I encourage everyone
look into it. This is the information that Mark Phillips
found buried under national security. It's our birthright information, not
about me. It's about us all and we all need
to remember who we are and why we're here. So
(44:49):
you can get that and get in touch with me,
get further information, find my books on tranced formation dot
com or on audible and reach out to me too
through my website transformation dot com.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Yes, and she is so gracious, and y'all, I can't
I can't recommend her books enough. They'll just shift your world.
And if you think the US government is above board
and doing everything in your best interests. I have to
recommend these books because she's got some facts in there
(45:29):
and details that you will not find anywhere else, and
they will tell you the true picture of who really
is pulling the strings around us. But Kathy, I just
so honored to have you on today. I can't thank
you enough for all your beautiful information and help with
everyone healing from their trauma. And I hope you'll come
(45:53):
back and join us and get her to answer some
of these other questions that people had, and maybe just
if if you have a minute, and you could just
give us a parting thought that people might be able
to take away with them today from our show. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Absolutely, I look forward to coming back and answering more questions.
And I think you know this, This merging of our information, Nancy,
is especially important because when people have organic, healthy lifestyles,
when they eat organically, when they know how to listen
to their bodies and feed it accordingly, that will make
(46:30):
our brains fire brighter, more brilliant, and it will help
us all shine bright. Ultimately, that's what we need. So yeah,
I'm so happy for what you do. Thank you for
having me on.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Oh well, it was my extreme pleasure, and so everyone
out there. I know Kathy has this owner website, but
everybody go out there and get out in nature.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Yes, it gets its.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
Sundshine and fresh air this week. And I'll try to
get Kathy set up for a following show coming up
in the next few weeks and and hope she can
join us. And for y'all out there, Kathy and I
send us your best, send you our best and wish
you a beautiful life. Stay strong, and we wish you
(47:20):
perfect health.
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