August 5, 2025 • 49 mins
Nancy Addison talks with Cathy O’Brien, author and nationally and internationally recognized US Government Whistleblower. Cathy has been speaking out for over 35 years on her experience in MK Ultra mind control. Her knowledge is our defense against mind control, and Cathy’s experience on a White House/Pentagon level empowers her insight into far reaching effects of mind control on society and what you can do to reclaim, protect, and expand your free thought. Website: https://trance-formation.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
Welcome beautiful people to organic healthy lifestyle. And I'm Nancy Addison,
your host, and I would love everyone to just take
a deep breath and just let out any stress that
you might be holding in your beingness and just let
it go. And I love to start off my show
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and just frame it with a prayer, And if you'll
join me in whichever way you would like, I just
ask guard to find Creator. Please allow your love for
us to extinguish any fear that we may have. Enable
us to become quiet and focused on your spirit of
divine love. Maybe we feel the waves of peace washing
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over us in the earth and clearing away any anxiety
or negative situations. We claim and to clear your grace,
love and promises and gratefully accept your gifts of strength, compassion, fortitude, flexibility, wisdom, insight,
and perfect health. Bring peace to our souls that passes
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all worldly understanding, and make us a light for others
to see your strength, and I ask for this in
the highest good of all concerned for everyone listening now
and everyone listening in the future. Thank you. And so
it is. And I heard someone say the other day,
and I thought this was so beautiful. They said, we
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are created out of purity, and our purity is our
soul's free will. Well, we are so blessed to have
one of my favorite people on the show again today.
She was so kind to come as part two because
Part one was so overwhelmingly wonderful and the questions from
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the listeners were just so abundant we needed to continue on.
But we are blessed to have Kathy O'Brien on again today.
She's an author, and she's also a nationally and internationally
recognized US government whistleblower, and she's been speaking out for
over thirty five years on her experience as an MK
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ultra mind control victim, and her knowledge of our defense
against mind control is just amazing, and the fact that
she has been able to bring her self out of
that trauma is just absolutely incredible. Welcome to us the
show again today, Kathy.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Thank you, Nancy.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I'm so excited to be here and I loved your beautiful,
beautiful prayer at the beginning. We are we're all so pure,
and we can all return to that purity, that innocence
because what happens to us in life isn't who we are.
Who we are is divinely aligned within with that infinite
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power of love. So this is our opportunity for everyone
to reclaim it. And I love love the beautiful atmosphere
you set for people to understand how they can reclaim it.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Oh, thank you so much. I just think are that
we are so connected with everyone around the world now
right because of various technologies, and it is such a blessing,
but it can also be a mixed blessing also, right.
So I was looking up something today. It's just I
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don't know why it hit me as being important, because
you know you have been.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I think on the last year I called you that
you remind me of Joan of Arc. You're kind of
like Joan of Arc and reverse. You got burned at
the stake first and then you kind of like came
out of that just save all of us with your
amazing information and you know, with the help of Mark Phillips,
the most amazing angel who is just incredibly brave. But
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I went and looked up the US patent for television
and I looked it up and it said it emits
in the patent it emits an electromagnetic field that can
affect the nervous system of the viewers and induce certain
emotional states and ever even alter behavior. And what I
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realize is, you know this came out what sixty fifty
sixty years ago, probably when they started like after World
War Two, when they started the mk altar program, right,
and they probably used it. You know, a lot of
these techniques on you. And I know that in your book,
which is phenomenal, by the way, everybody, if you have
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a chance to read her book, it is absolutely incredible
and it will change your life forever. But you know,
they gave you Disney movies and certain themes and things
that would because you were put into this as a
baby and raised with this. And I was just going
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to ask you a little bit to touch on how
you think because this is affecting everybody all over the
world at this point, and they've only increased these frequencies
and the amount of screens that we're all seeing on
a daily basis, So you're probably seeing all kinds of
different aspects of this that maybe we wouldn't understand normally,
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But maybe you can help us to grow and knowledge
on how we can live with this and even protect
ourselves from it in some ways.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yes, it's such a brilliant observation.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah, we all need to cut off our devices and
get out nature more, you know, and realize that we
get bombarded with the frequencies. There's light flashing that affects
our brain. There's a media repetitive narrative. Anything that's repeated
three times goes into the subconscious part of the brain.
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It is the most primitive basic form of mind control
is repetition. So we certainly get that through the media.
And then we get the harmonics. The harmonics area the
frequency whether we hear it or don't hear it, but
it vibrates the neuron pathways of our brain to allow
for information to go in. So it's so important to
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understand that when we're listening to music, what lyrics is
it carrying, because it.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Does affect our brains. You know.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
TV has so many ways of affecting us. And when
we understand the components of mind control, we've realized that
it is used as a mind control device. It did
start soon after Project paper Clip, when we imported the
Nazi and Fascias scientists into the US. With them came
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the formula for mind control, and the TV made a
perfect little avenue for them to have voice and start
manipulating the minds of the masses. When people research Project
paper Clip, they're going to find out Walt Disney was
part of Project paper Clip.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Why why does a.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Child cartoonist have something to do with Nazi and Fascias
scientists like Werner von Braun, You know of NASA and
DARPA because of mind control. So when we understand that
Disney was aware of that when it started, we start
to understand how we have been manipulated through the media,
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and it had been found in the Hitler Himler research.
The formula for mind control is the same whether it's
of an individual, a nation, a classroom, military, a.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Church, or the world. Trauma is the basis of it.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Other components of mind control are sleep, food, and water deprivation.
When we understand that, we know why we're working nine
to five, five to nine to put food on the
table that's been bioengineered and genetically altered to deliberately starve
our brains of necessary nutrients. Can we understand why the
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fluoride brought over from Nazi Germany was also put into
our water as it affects our thing and our clarity
of thinking. All these components come into play, and it
had been found in Hitler Himler research, No trauma is
more horrific on the human mind than sexual abuse of
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a child prior to age five while the brain is
still forming. That's because it shuts down the trauma, shuts
down neuron pathways, compartmentalizes memory, and leaves the subconscious mind
wide open, being easily led, programmed, and manipulated. So when
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we understand our own mind brain function and how it
interfaces with television, when we understand the reality that the
pedophile agenda is a mind to control agenda intended to
dumb down the human population and make us more compliant.
When we put all those pieces of the puzzle together,
it gets easy to see how television was immediately used
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to manipulate our minds on us subliminal, subconscious level. Disney
started promoting pedophilia right from the get go. That mind
control agenda was weaved into the cartoons subliminally, so that
even if we didn't consciously see it, our subconscious mind
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was definitely seeing it while our conscious mind was distracted
by whatever else was happening in the cartoon. So, in
this regard, television has been used against humanity from the
get go in a most horrific way. And when we
understand that, we have a defense against it. Knowledge is
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always our defense against any level of mind control.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Well, that was such a great explanation of that. Thank
you so much. And then you know, as we look
at this aspect, and I have to admit I was
horrified when I started seeing all of the sexual content
that they stick in the cartoons and movies that are
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so fast you wouldn't normally recognize it, but you know,
it will be like a penis on one of those characters,
or them having intercourse or something really just horrifying. And
some of what you would normally consider or people normally
would consider innocent shows. And I mean it just it
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makes you really rethink that whole agenda and in uh yeah,
and and people are asking me today quite literally, Kathy,
and maybe you can help me with how do you
how do you answer this? You know, because I had
a friend tell me the other day, you know, her,
her her son and her children are going to Disney Lane.
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They want her to go with him. What does she do?
He addressed that if this person, her son in for instance,
has no idea of the reality of truth today in
this whole scenario.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Oh, it definitely should be known and understood by everyone
that that children are targeted at Disney. It's also mind
control epicenter in the underground of Disney World. I was
certainly taken there. There's very sophisticated NASA, DARPA MK ultra
mind control programming technologies there, and the sophistication of mind
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control is right there in the underground. Well, they're the
children are on the top and it's just right there
like that. They can harvest them from the from from
the from Disney. So you know, we have to be
mindful of that. The reality has become more and more
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obvious when people look at those brought up in Disney,
like Britney Spears with the effects that had on them
through MK ultra mind control. And I think Disney's not redeemable.
It doesn't No one needs to go there. If someone
is determined because of how to sheer ignorance, they think
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they're going to the happiest place on earth and bought
into the narrative, then perhaps it wouldn't be It might
be a wise thing to go along, to keep a
very close eye on the children and not be distracted
by what's going on around and make sure that they're
kept safe throughout.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
You know.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
So those of us with eyes to see, ears to hear,
and soul to know are the ones who need to
step up and protect the children now until others wake
up and realize exactly the magnitude of the MK ultra
mind control monster that we're all up against.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yes, thank you, And you know, it's something I've noticed.
I'm seventy, so I have a lot of older friends
that you know, many of them have you know, lost
their span, or live alone, or you know, whatever it
might be. And these media things I feel are so
I mean, they're so outreaching that I mean I quite
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literally have some friends and frequently it's men friends who
like have to have the news on all the time,
or they have the TV literally blaring in their house
all the time, and they're not aware that during the
Obama area era, they put cameras in all TVs so
that they can spy on everyone. So all these televisions
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and all the restaurants and all the elevators everywhere you go,
they are able to spy on you. And so they're
watching you in your bedroom, they're watching you wherever you
have your TV screens or whatever it is. But you know,
some of these people quite literally can't live without a
TV blaring at their face. And I remember being so
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horrified because I you know, I grew up in the
fifties in the sixties, and you know, Walter Cronkite was
like the trusted voice and you were supposed to believe
everything he said or something. And I saw a film
clip of him once when he was with some of
these top level political people talking about and laughing that
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you know, wouldn't they be surprised if they knew that
we were worshiping Satan instead of who they think we
are worshiping. And I remember just being dumbfounded. And that
was part of my wake up call to reality, is
that all of these media people that have been put
out for us to you know, listen to or think
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or telling us the truth or things, they're actually simply
telling us the agenda of what they've been told to
tell us as basically a mind control program.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Absolutely why there's a repetitive narrative no matter what channel
you watched, the same things follow the money, and it
goes to the same handful of puppet masters. It goes
to the same handful of self appointed, self anointed, unelected
global leaders at the very top of all this, And
they've been manipulating the minds of the masses very deliberately
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for a long long time, to the point where some
people really can't turn off that so called news. They're
addicted to the brain feed. It's the same thing as
people with their cell phones these days, twiddling their thumbs
away on their cell phones and scrolling information so fast
they're not really even taking it in or giving it
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any thought or researching it further or looking into.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
It at all.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Instead, it's just a constant bombardment on our minds of
information overloads. So we've realized the sanctity of our free thought,
free will, soul expression, you know, we'll start safeguarding it
back or get out in nature more and take time
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away from these devices. The more time we take away
from it, the more we see how much we get
dumped down by the focus that it steals from us.
And yeah, people definitely need to become aware of that.
They need to become aware of it, and video games
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and the music that they listen to. In all things,
we need to start paying attention because you know, with
knowledge our defense against mind control, we have a vast
array of application for that knowledge. Where we need to
start understanding that mind control has been far reaching, and
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it's gone into TV and computerization and video games and music,
and it's all around us. And yet we don't need
to succumb to it. We can raise our frequency and
rise above it anytime we use. But it takes our
reclamation of free thought to access our free will so
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that we can make a wise decision in light of
soul expression. With sole expression comes discernment of truth.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
You know.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
So we have ben let us stray away from our
own divine saving grace mechanisms for a long long time,
and it's time we reclaim it and reclaim our very
humanity and realize that this is ultimately a spiritual warfare.
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When we can't even think together the strength of the
human spirit anymore because our conscious mind is being so
traumatized freezes in fright while our subconscious being bombarded with
whatever repetitive narrative that they want to give us and
sit they while they sit in back laughing that they've
worshiped Satan, you know, I mean like you were. And
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it's just we need to start paying attention to safeguarding
our own free thought and take care of ourselves so
that we're more effective in protecting our children for future generations.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Oh, that is so true. And I was I was
just thinking. I was talking to a lady the other
day and I told her that she needed to watch
the documentary Out of Shadows, And I don't know if
you've seen it or not, but it's two of the
top Hollywood stunt men who were, like, you know, the
leading like you know, Batman and Superman. They were the top,
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and they did a documentary that is so good. It's
free to watch if anybody wants it. But it's on
how mk ultra mind controlled was built into Hollywood and
what they started noticing when they started waking up to
reality of where they were working and what might be
going on around the that they may not have noticed before.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Yeah, Liz Croken and Mike, they're just wonderful people that
I'm well familiar with and have spent a lot of
time talking with and everything else, and they've they've certainly
done their part in being able to bring that information
out through out of shadows and now into the light.
There's more information, and you know, everybody's coming at it
from every direction they can in order to help wake
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up the population. Look at look at how much you
are contributing with what you do all the time by
not only bringing truth to light, but reminding people about
the organic, healthy lifestyle that we all need to be living,
because that's reclaiming our birthright to good nutrition and inner
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peace and well being and good health. You know, it's important,
it's very important.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Thank you so much. And we have so many questions, Kathy,
I think we could spend a good hour or two
hours answering him. But for everyone sending in questions, thank
you so much. We will get to them. But Kathy,
I have so wanted to continue you sharing with us
the way that Mark helped you and guided you to
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heal yourself from all the trauma that you had had
all your life and since a baby, and how you
were able to do that because you know, as we
were talking before the show, it doesn't matter who we
are in the world. We've all been traumatized in some way,
shape or form by something that's gone on in our lives,
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and it's all relevant to our own lives. So you know,
maybe we aren't a Kathy O'Brien or something like that,
but the trauma in our life is real and it
can hurt. And we all are looking for ways of
making our lives healthier and better and moving into this new,
more peaceful world without these signs in saying, kind of
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mafia psychopaths running running our world anymore. And I'm very
prayerperal and hopeful that we're moving into a better, more
awakened era where people are just simply gonna laugh at
those people and say be gone, or I'm gonna throw
water on you like that we get into the way.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's time we do that, because there's
there's no business. They have no business meddling in our
brilliant minds and lives anymore. They're just a low, dark,
negative vibration energy force and we have all the power
they own, as much power as we give them and
let them steal. Mark found our birthright information on healing
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Buried under national security. It had been buried since it
was the formula for mind control was imported into the
US through Project paper Clip. That means for generations now
our birthright information on our own mind brain function has
been withheld from mental health, the medical community, and from
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society as a whole. We have forgotten it. We haven't
been passing this information down, but we sure can remember
it real fast and PTSD time to heal. It's secured
on my website at transformation dot com, so everybody can
have it now and download it and start applying it
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because it's not about me, and it's a healing method.
It's a reminder of what we've been blessed with wrong.
We have the body minded spirit, we have capacity for
healing and remembering who we are, why we're here, so
that we can all gather our strength of spirit and
start living the love we are you know, and live
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life the way it was intended. When Mark found that
buried under national security, he couldn't release it because he
was working the highest levels of intelligence mind sciences to
preserve the sanctity of free thought. But he couldn't release
it because he was bound by laws of sedition. So
he took action out of the swamp, the human trafficking swamp,
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and handed me those keys to my own mind. And
even though he couldn't release the information, I certainly could
because I'm not bound by laws of this edition.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Okay, Rebel, I think Kathy. Is Kathy still here? She froze?
Speaker 3 (24:21):
She said, our ability to cope.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Okay, Kathy, you froze for a minute, so you cut
off for a second as sorry. I was asking Rebel,
my wonderful sound engineer, if you are still here. So
I think you dropped off right when you were saying
that you know where you were able to release that
information and then heal yourself as well.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Yes, well, everybody needs this information and it's so easy
to self apply. One of the most important ones is
to pick up a pen and paper and write out
your grief, right out your trauma right, oh, any negativity
that's immobilizing you. And what that does is when you
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pick up a pen and paper. A keyboard does not
do the same thing. But when we pick up a
pen and paper, we activate the logic critical analysis part
of the brain, so we can shift all those emotionally
and comprehensible traumas and fears overwhelming grief, even guilt, anything
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that immobilizes as shift it over to logic, where it's
dealt with consciously. When we see it in front of us.
That opens neuron pathways in the brain. The mind controlled
mind manipulation shuts them down. We need to open those
neuron pathways back up for optimum thinking. We need to
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be able to gather our strength, a spirit, and our wisdom.
We need to access to all of our brain and
get it firing again the way that it was intended to.
So I would encourage everyone to apply that trip to themselves.
When Mark passed away in twenty seventeen, Nancy the whole
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world lost hero. I lost my soulmate, my best friend,
and my hero, and was very, very difficult dealing with that.
I knew that I was vulnerable. I knew that I
was suggestible at that time from the overwhelming grief. So
I made sure I shut off TV, I shut off
all devices. I picked up a pen and a paper,
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and I began writing poems. I began venting and binding.
Ultimately that all of the things Mark and I had
experienced gave me strength and a wisdom that I could
carry forward, and so then I would vent a poem
to in gratitude for that. But by moving that pen
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and paper, I was able to keep my brain active
and to keep the neural pathways open to be able
to maintain self control through this most traumatic time. That
is a time when many people experience overwhelming numbers of
people selling them something or even you know, anything that
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they can make money off of our grief, and we
need to realize that beforehand so that we can protect
ourselves and not give in to those who would capitalize
on our vulnerabilities. When we understand our own mind brain function,
pick up that pen and paper and get those neuron
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pathways firing again, we begin to understand how to protect
ourselves better and to protect the sanctity of free thought.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Especially.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
You know that if we just get writing by hand
back in the school system, we can stop the indoctor
name of our children. We'll learn how to think again
instead of being taught what to think.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
You know. So this is a.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Very important key that Mark gave me that everyone can
apply to themselves to deal with whatever they're having to
cope through in their own life, and then to apply
some of the other simple.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Methods too, like petting your dog.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Getting outside, getting your feet in the earth, your hands
in the dirt, breathe in the air, feel the sun
on your skin. Consciously feel it all and embrace it
again and it will help you to consciously ground back into.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Self control and inner peace.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Oh I love that, And so I had a couple
of questions for you on that, Kathy. Do you do
you write it once? Do you need to write it
more than once? Does it need to be in print
or does it matter if you're writing incursive or do
you do you need to read it out loud also
or is it just enough to just do it once?
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And I think in the last show you mentioned that
at the end of some of the traumas and things
that you had written out, you put something positive like
that was going to come out of that or I'm
not sure what it was, but if you could expand
on that, that would be much appreciated.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Yes, Mark had taught me voice no negatives without a solution. Well,
I had only followed orders robotically the first thirty years
of my life and didn't even know how to make
a decision or think for myself. So I had to
activate that part of my brain by saying voice no
negatives without a solution. Not only did it save him
from having to listen to me complain all the time,
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but it gave me an opportunity to exercise and force
my brain to think in new ways. So that opened
more neuround pathways in the brain. And it's so I
encourage everyone if they're writing out there their grief or
their trauma, or the negativity that's immobilizing them, whatever their
fear might be, write all that out, get that out,
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and then add a solution. Because when you add a solution,
it lifts you out of that dark pit of negativity.
It raises you above the storm, so to speak, so
you can see a clear path forward.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
So it's very important for.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
All of us to start exercising in terms of solutions.
I think it's a great thought that what if social
media had some kind of rual voice, no negatives without
a solution, people couldn't get on there and complain and
snap judge. They'd have to offer solutions and I'd changed
the world right there, you know. So it's an important exercise.
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As for when I was writing out my memory, I
didn't necessarily add the solution at that moment because that
was uh, its own kind of deprogramming by writing out
past trauma. And I when I would write it out,
I would write it out in photographic detail, because our
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brains photograph, They photographically record events surrounding trauma. So I
would hear voices of my abusers, and I would say,
who who it was, what were they saying, why were
they saying?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
You know?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
And it would just really helped me to be able
to write out all that trauma. When I did, I
would notice that my handwriting was vastly different in the
from the different compartments of my memory as I would
write it out. If it happened to me in childhood
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or earliest childhood, I printed. If it happened on more
in grade school level, then I would start writing, you know,
I'm might write it and cursive, so it varies according
to expression of the moment. The expression that we project
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through that pen onto paper reveals a lot about us.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Like even in.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Graphology, it shows how if we're writing incursive and we're
going with that flow, and all of a sudden there's
a little catch in an oh, and we keep going
and then there's another catch and the why is that happening? Well,
it's because the heart is doing a little irregular tick
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right at that point, and it's reflecting in this flow
of that pen. So we can actually if when we
understand that aspect of handwriting, we can look at that
and start focusing on making that circle round, make that
oh round without a tick in it. And that's taking
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control of our heartbeat with our mind from the other side,
which actually can regulate our heartbeat. And it teaches us
how much control our minds have over our bodies, and
we can start realizing that we have that control when
we access for ourselves. So you know, this take in
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writing by hand out of the school system is really
robbing humanity of a very important physical expression of our
inner most being.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Well, that was so brilliant, and yes, it's just another
way of mind control and brainwashing of the children today.
I mean, it's basically what they planned on doing when
Rocke Villas a school system. And I know they redid
all the history books from nineteen fifty two to nineteen
fifty four, which is when I was born, and you know,
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took out true facts and tossed just a bunch of
useless information that I have probably never used my life,
and and most of it is incorrect from I'm gathering now,
which is just really horrifying. But you know the fact
that they have all these kids in schools sitting for
hours under lighting. Yeah, I'm very good.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Ahead, No, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
I think we're getting a little pickup in the in
the little disruption and communications occasionally.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Okay, sorry, yeah, I am too.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Well, it's just you know, technology is a mixed blessing
for sure.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Yeah, exactly, exactly, And yeah, but the writing behind is
such an important aspect of our being that we need
to take back and understand too that history has been
rewritten in the school system when it went to computerization.
They went and to program the kids further to accept
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a global agenda. They don't even know how to do
math anymore properly, they don't know what economics are. All
the important stuff was taken out of the education system
in order to make us more compliant and lead into
this globalist slave society agenda that were being fed.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yes, yes, that's beautifully said. And I'm a school teacher.
I used to be a school teacher. I taught for
like two years, and they were drugging all the kids,
and kids are not meant to sit in a classroom
under horrifying light still all day long. It's not healthy.
(35:47):
And then to drug them all up and make them
think something's wrong with them and that they need a
drug to solve their problem. I mean, that's just another
mind control thing because they're basically saying drug solve your problem. Right,
So then you've got a whole bunch of drug addicts
coming out of school, right.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
And big Pharma reaped benefit.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Oh boy, it is. It's such a tangled web that
they have woven. And we are we are unweaving it
as we go. And you are, you are just the
angel of unweaving. And I just you know, you're such
a blessing to the world with all your information. One
of our listeners was just asking, what is the name
(36:27):
of your book? And the name of her book that
she wrote is called Transformation of America, The True Story
of a CIA mind control Slave, and it is co
authored by Mark Phillips, her amazing rescuer, brilliant angel. And
I know one of the questions last week was Kathy,
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when we ended the show last week, they wanted to
know what happened to your daughter? Did you get your
daughter back? And how is she doing?
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Yes, quickly on the books. They're available on audible or
through my website. Trance is my Marks. In my nineteen
ninety five testimony for Congress access denied for reasons in
National Security, tells our journey through the corrupted justice system
to help my daughter who had been born into MK
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ultra and then medically kidnapped into the corrupted Child Protective Services.
They just took custody of her, and we did everything
we could to free her from that system. PTSD time
to heal of courses is on my website right there
for everybody to have. But that information is something that
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while Kelly was with us, when my daughter was with
marking me for about a year before they medically kidnapped her,
she was able to gain access to her own mind,
her own free thought, free will expression, and she says
now that it's her saving grace. It allowed her to
(38:06):
not buy into what they were trying to program her
with through the corrupt system. And Kelly is probably the
most brilliant, amazing example of the strength of the human
spirit and the infinite power of love.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
She and I are very very close. She's she lives
the love. She she is.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
She's always outside with animals and nature and enjoying that aspect.
She spends very little time around any kind of social
media or anything, so she's not out there so publicly,
but she is brilliant. She's amazing and absolutely resilient. I
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just I'm so proud of her and so excited for
her and what it means for all humanity that there
is nothing that life can put in front of us
that we can't overcome.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
She has living proof of it.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
That's such a beautiful message, and I hope everybody out
there is hearing that message, because you know, these two
women have been just absolute blessings to our lives by
being able to heal themselves and then share the message
of what the truth is about the dis government all
these people that are in these high power positions that
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are absolutely harming and not having any of our best
interest at heart from what I can tell. And so
I wanted to talk today about how Mark introduced nutrition
to you, Kathy, because I know you were living on
like three hundred calories a day for like thirty years
(39:50):
of your life, which is to me just absolutely mind
blowing that that is, you know, something that would prevent
your body from having the proper nutrition so that it
could grow and function in the healthiest way possible. And
so you know, you had I had asked you about,
you know, the nutrition, because I write the healthy nutrition
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cookbooks and things, and you were like, oh, my goodness.
You know, Mark helped us with that. And I would
love for you to share some of your ideas on
how other people can can heal them their bodies and
do that through proper nutrition.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Well, our brains get starved, and mine was very deliberately starved,
and it had adverse effects on my whole physical body,
on my digestion and everything else. And I was in
such bad physical shape when Mark first rescued us that
he literally carried me around for a long a long
(40:50):
time while he was getting my health back through good nutrition.
He knew exactly what's needed to feed the brain. And
so I ate, I ate real well. Mark, Mark had
a lot of money in his bank accountanty rescued me,
(41:10):
but it was over three million dollars and the government
took it from him. So it was they said it was.
They took his life, saving us for saving a life.
You know, it's so classic what they do. They thought
it would stop us, it didn't, and it didn't even
stop Mark from knowing that good nutrition was essential and
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that it could be found even on the tightest of budgets. So,
you know, the tighter the budget, and I think sometimes
more you grow your own and to make sure that
it's organic and nutritious, and and it got.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
My health back.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
I think way better than ever, you know, than most
people experience. It's it's such an important integral part of
our life, and I'm I'm happy to have learned from
Mark the importance of that and maintaining it every day
that I live.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
That's so wonderful. Do you have a specific favorite recipe
he taught you, or food that you and your daughter
liked to eat sometimes that you feel as like one
of your favorite healthy foods or dishes.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
I think what I learned most of all is to
listen to my body and see what it needs. Back
when Mark was telling was trying to help me learn
to think and get my brain firing and make decisions.
He would ask me, what do you want for dinner?
I didn't know. I couldn't think to make up a
decision on that, And eventually I tuned into my body
(42:42):
and learned what it was needing and so then I
would be able to come up with an answer based
on listening.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
To my body.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
So I still do that today, Kelly and I both
do you know, we'll say, you know, my brain needs
a boost, let's have some salmon tonight.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
You know. It's something like that.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
So it's all a matter of really just listening to
our bodies and giving it what it needs.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Oh, I love that. So, Kathy, we're getting towards the
end of the show and we have so many questions.
We have five minutes. We have one question that is
are these standalone books or is there an order in
which to read them? What would you suggest ree Transformation
of America first, and then Access Denied and then that
(43:28):
third book.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
I would go PTSD Time to Heal first, because that
just reminds us all how to think.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Free.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Access Denied is like a road map through the corrupted system.
And there's a lot of a lot of mothers out
there who are struggling to keep their children from being
sucked into this criminal system that is being dismantled, but
it's taking plenty of time to do it. So it's
a roadmap through our corrupted system. And it's also a
(43:59):
testament to the human spirit and power of love. So
I would definitely recommend access denied for reasons in national security.
And then finally Transformation of America. It's mighty hardcore. It
was written for Congress, It's compiled for my testimony for
Congress in nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Every word in it is validated.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
And that's why national security was invoked on it. But
it is secured on my website at Transformation dot com,
so you know, I would recommend people go there for it.
The free ebooks that they post on the internet have
been altered to promote this globalist agenda and to dilute truth.
(44:44):
So not only is truth censored, it's diluted. Make sure
you go straight to the to the authors, and in
my case, yeah, I definitely recommend PTSD time to heal
first so we all have our discernment of truth, sharp
and clear.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Love that thank you Les for that for that question.
And then Dalton wants to know is there a connection
with doing writing in the brain and Kathy, you know,
I learned many years ago that the brain and the
heart are connected when you write, and the actually what
you mentioned about the O or having that you know, Glitchen,
(45:21):
there there's a lady named Vimmela Rogers that I uh
really looked at many years ago, and she has a
program called Change Your Writing, Change your Life, and she
believes the school actually taught us how to how to
write incorrectly. Yes, you write the letters correctly. It literally
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changes the way your brain functions.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
It does because it's an expression of ourselves, and we're
taught to all be exactly alike, you know, in the
way that we write in the school system.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
So yeah, they are teaching us wrong. They're teaching us.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
All to be nice, little exact same when in fact
our differences are beautiful.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yes, thank you, and thank you Jenna for that question
about the books in order. And so I'm trying to
get through some of these questions. Uh here before before
we have to end the show. So let's Leslie is
asking Walter Konkai worked for Disney. Do you think he
was involved in the mind control? Well, yes, you and
(46:26):
you answer that one cat there we go. Yes, I
would say all of these main people front are part
of the Satanic system. So Janice is asking, what do
you think about parents giving infants cell phones and tablets?
Speaker 4 (46:44):
Oh, isn't that that's just that's just programming from the start.
It's like when they used to set us in front
of a TV to babysit us, you know, just to
keep us occupied. That's not healthy, that's not good function. No,
that's just that's just dumbing them down from the start.
And yeah, people need to wise up to that and
(47:05):
understand the effects that that these devices are having on
our brains. Taken us full circle back around to what
you started this with Nancy on the television and the
effect that it had. Well, these these tablets and cell phones,
there are a step above that. You know, it's got
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to stop. We gotta we gotta wise up.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
And that's not a way to raise a child.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
I actually know a teenager that will not look up
and will not take the phone out of her hand,
and it it just makes me my heart sick. Are
just so sad to look at her and her parents
do nothing about it and they don't know what to do.
But she's addicted to it. And I know they build
these these addiction things into them because the people that
(47:53):
make these programs in Silicon Valley make their people that
take care of their kids sign no screen agreements that
if their child SE's the screen, they are fired.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
Because they know how dangerous they are, and so it's
really sad for at the end.
Speaker 5 (48:10):
Of the show against Kathy, You've also have been so
honored to have you on the show, and you know,
if you'll join me again, we'll try to answer more
of these questions that we have, numerous ones that we
haven't gotten to yet.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
But you know what we should, We should do a
whole show of nothing but questions and answers from your following.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
That would be wonderful. Let's set up a date and
do that. And for everybody listening, just know that I'm
going to put that out there and Kathy is just
so wonderful and sweet, and we'll find a date that
she can join me and we can answer these questions.
And Kathy, in just a you know, brief moment, can
you just you know, give a parting thought to our
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wonderful listeners today.
Speaker 4 (48:53):
Thank you so much for this opportunity again, it's always
such a delight.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Talking with you.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
And yeah, I just to encourage everyone to remember who
they are, why they're here, and start living the.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
Love they are. We got all the power.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
It's up to us, lovely, all right, everyone out there,
just go read Kathy's books and stay strong and and
get out in nature.
Speaker 4 (49:18):
Yeah really yeah, eat nutritionally and we love you.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
And thank you, Kathy, thank you,
Any health related information on the following show provides general
information only. Content presented on any show by any host
or guests should not be substituted for a doctor's advice.
Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise,
or treatment program.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Welcome beautiful people to organic healthy lifestyle. And I'm Nancy Addison,
your host, and I would love everyone to just take
a deep breath and just let out any stress that
you might be holding in your beingness and just let
it go. And I love to start off my show
(00:57):
and just frame it with a prayer, And if you'll
join me in whichever way you would like, I just
ask guard to find Creator. Please allow your love for
us to extinguish any fear that we may have. Enable
us to become quiet and focused on your spirit of
divine love. Maybe we feel the waves of peace washing
(01:18):
over us in the earth and clearing away any anxiety
or negative situations. We claim and to clear your grace,
love and promises and gratefully accept your gifts of strength, compassion, fortitude, flexibility, wisdom, insight,
and perfect health. Bring peace to our souls that passes
(01:40):
all worldly understanding, and make us a light for others
to see your strength, and I ask for this in
the highest good of all concerned for everyone listening now
and everyone listening in the future. Thank you. And so
it is. And I heard someone say the other day,
and I thought this was so beautiful. They said, we
(02:00):
are created out of purity, and our purity is our
soul's free will. Well, we are so blessed to have
one of my favorite people on the show again today.
She was so kind to come as part two because
Part one was so overwhelmingly wonderful and the questions from
(02:23):
the listeners were just so abundant we needed to continue on.
But we are blessed to have Kathy O'Brien on again today.
She's an author, and she's also a nationally and internationally
recognized US government whistleblower, and she's been speaking out for
over thirty five years on her experience as an MK
(02:46):
ultra mind control victim, and her knowledge of our defense
against mind control is just amazing, and the fact that
she has been able to bring her self out of
that trauma is just absolutely incredible. Welcome to us the
show again today, Kathy.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Thank you, Nancy.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I'm so excited to be here and I loved your beautiful,
beautiful prayer at the beginning. We are we're all so pure,
and we can all return to that purity, that innocence
because what happens to us in life isn't who we are.
Who we are is divinely aligned within with that infinite
(03:30):
power of love. So this is our opportunity for everyone
to reclaim it. And I love love the beautiful atmosphere
you set for people to understand how they can reclaim it.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Oh, thank you so much. I just think are that
we are so connected with everyone around the world now
right because of various technologies, and it is such a blessing,
but it can also be a mixed blessing also, right.
So I was looking up something today. It's just I
(04:04):
don't know why it hit me as being important, because
you know you have been.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I think on the last year I called you that
you remind me of Joan of Arc. You're kind of
like Joan of Arc and reverse. You got burned at
the stake first and then you kind of like came
out of that just save all of us with your
amazing information and you know, with the help of Mark Phillips,
the most amazing angel who is just incredibly brave. But
(04:33):
I went and looked up the US patent for television
and I looked it up and it said it emits
in the patent it emits an electromagnetic field that can
affect the nervous system of the viewers and induce certain
emotional states and ever even alter behavior. And what I
(04:57):
realize is, you know this came out what sixty fifty
sixty years ago, probably when they started like after World
War Two, when they started the mk altar program, right,
and they probably used it. You know, a lot of
these techniques on you. And I know that in your book,
which is phenomenal, by the way, everybody, if you have
(05:20):
a chance to read her book, it is absolutely incredible
and it will change your life forever. But you know,
they gave you Disney movies and certain themes and things
that would because you were put into this as a
baby and raised with this. And I was just going
(05:42):
to ask you a little bit to touch on how
you think because this is affecting everybody all over the
world at this point, and they've only increased these frequencies
and the amount of screens that we're all seeing on
a daily basis, So you're probably seeing all kinds of
different aspects of this that maybe we wouldn't understand normally,
(06:03):
But maybe you can help us to grow and knowledge
on how we can live with this and even protect
ourselves from it in some ways.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yes, it's such a brilliant observation.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah, we all need to cut off our devices and
get out nature more, you know, and realize that we
get bombarded with the frequencies. There's light flashing that affects
our brain. There's a media repetitive narrative. Anything that's repeated
three times goes into the subconscious part of the brain.
(06:40):
It is the most primitive basic form of mind control
is repetition. So we certainly get that through the media.
And then we get the harmonics. The harmonics area the
frequency whether we hear it or don't hear it, but
it vibrates the neuron pathways of our brain to allow
for information to go in. So it's so important to
(07:03):
understand that when we're listening to music, what lyrics is
it carrying, because it.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Does affect our brains. You know.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
TV has so many ways of affecting us. And when
we understand the components of mind control, we've realized that
it is used as a mind control device. It did
start soon after Project paper Clip, when we imported the
Nazi and Fascias scientists into the US. With them came
(07:34):
the formula for mind control, and the TV made a
perfect little avenue for them to have voice and start
manipulating the minds of the masses. When people research Project
paper Clip, they're going to find out Walt Disney was
part of Project paper Clip.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Why why does a.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Child cartoonist have something to do with Nazi and Fascias
scientists like Werner von Braun, You know of NASA and
DARPA because of mind control. So when we understand that
Disney was aware of that when it started, we start
to understand how we have been manipulated through the media,
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and it had been found in the Hitler Himler research.
The formula for mind control is the same whether it's
of an individual, a nation, a classroom, military, a.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Church, or the world. Trauma is the basis of it.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Other components of mind control are sleep, food, and water deprivation.
When we understand that, we know why we're working nine
to five, five to nine to put food on the
table that's been bioengineered and genetically altered to deliberately starve
our brains of necessary nutrients. Can we understand why the
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fluoride brought over from Nazi Germany was also put into
our water as it affects our thing and our clarity
of thinking. All these components come into play, and it
had been found in Hitler Himler research, No trauma is
more horrific on the human mind than sexual abuse of
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a child prior to age five while the brain is
still forming. That's because it shuts down the trauma, shuts
down neuron pathways, compartmentalizes memory, and leaves the subconscious mind
wide open, being easily led, programmed, and manipulated. So when
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we understand our own mind brain function and how it
interfaces with television, when we understand the reality that the
pedophile agenda is a mind to control agenda intended to
dumb down the human population and make us more compliant.
When we put all those pieces of the puzzle together,
it gets easy to see how television was immediately used
(09:55):
to manipulate our minds on us subliminal, subconscious level. Disney
started promoting pedophilia right from the get go. That mind
control agenda was weaved into the cartoons subliminally, so that
even if we didn't consciously see it, our subconscious mind
(10:17):
was definitely seeing it while our conscious mind was distracted
by whatever else was happening in the cartoon. So, in
this regard, television has been used against humanity from the
get go in a most horrific way. And when we
understand that, we have a defense against it. Knowledge is
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always our defense against any level of mind control.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Well, that was such a great explanation of that. Thank
you so much. And then you know, as we look
at this aspect, and I have to admit I was
horrified when I started seeing all of the sexual content
that they stick in the cartoons and movies that are
(11:02):
so fast you wouldn't normally recognize it, but you know,
it will be like a penis on one of those characters,
or them having intercourse or something really just horrifying. And
some of what you would normally consider or people normally
would consider innocent shows. And I mean it just it
(11:27):
makes you really rethink that whole agenda and in uh yeah,
and and people are asking me today quite literally, Kathy,
and maybe you can help me with how do you
how do you answer this? You know, because I had
a friend tell me the other day, you know, her,
her her son and her children are going to Disney Lane.
(11:49):
They want her to go with him. What does she do?
He addressed that if this person, her son in for instance,
has no idea of the reality of truth today in
this whole scenario.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Oh, it definitely should be known and understood by everyone
that that children are targeted at Disney. It's also mind
control epicenter in the underground of Disney World. I was
certainly taken there. There's very sophisticated NASA, DARPA MK ultra
mind control programming technologies there, and the sophistication of mind
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control is right there in the underground. Well, they're the
children are on the top and it's just right there
like that. They can harvest them from the from from
the from Disney. So you know, we have to be
mindful of that. The reality has become more and more
(12:48):
obvious when people look at those brought up in Disney,
like Britney Spears with the effects that had on them
through MK ultra mind control. And I think Disney's not redeemable.
It doesn't No one needs to go there. If someone
is determined because of how to sheer ignorance, they think
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they're going to the happiest place on earth and bought
into the narrative, then perhaps it wouldn't be It might
be a wise thing to go along, to keep a
very close eye on the children and not be distracted
by what's going on around and make sure that they're
kept safe throughout.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
You know.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
So those of us with eyes to see, ears to hear,
and soul to know are the ones who need to
step up and protect the children now until others wake
up and realize exactly the magnitude of the MK ultra
mind control monster that we're all up against.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yes, thank you, And you know, it's something I've noticed.
I'm seventy, so I have a lot of older friends
that you know, many of them have you know, lost
their span, or live alone, or you know, whatever it
might be. And these media things I feel are so
I mean, they're so outreaching that I mean I quite
(14:11):
literally have some friends and frequently it's men friends who
like have to have the news on all the time,
or they have the TV literally blaring in their house
all the time, and they're not aware that during the
Obama area era, they put cameras in all TVs so
that they can spy on everyone. So all these televisions
(14:34):
and all the restaurants and all the elevators everywhere you go,
they are able to spy on you. And so they're
watching you in your bedroom, they're watching you wherever you
have your TV screens or whatever it is. But you know,
some of these people quite literally can't live without a
TV blaring at their face. And I remember being so
(14:58):
horrified because I you know, I grew up in the
fifties in the sixties, and you know, Walter Cronkite was
like the trusted voice and you were supposed to believe
everything he said or something. And I saw a film
clip of him once when he was with some of
these top level political people talking about and laughing that
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you know, wouldn't they be surprised if they knew that
we were worshiping Satan instead of who they think we
are worshiping. And I remember just being dumbfounded. And that
was part of my wake up call to reality, is
that all of these media people that have been put
out for us to you know, listen to or think
(15:42):
or telling us the truth or things, they're actually simply
telling us the agenda of what they've been told to
tell us as basically a mind control program.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Absolutely why there's a repetitive narrative no matter what channel
you watched, the same things follow the money, and it
goes to the same handful of puppet masters. It goes
to the same handful of self appointed, self anointed, unelected
global leaders at the very top of all this, And
they've been manipulating the minds of the masses very deliberately
(16:16):
for a long long time, to the point where some
people really can't turn off that so called news. They're
addicted to the brain feed. It's the same thing as
people with their cell phones these days, twiddling their thumbs
away on their cell phones and scrolling information so fast
they're not really even taking it in or giving it
(16:38):
any thought or researching it further or looking into.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
It at all.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Instead, it's just a constant bombardment on our minds of
information overloads. So we've realized the sanctity of our free thought,
free will, soul expression, you know, we'll start safeguarding it
back or get out in nature more and take time
(17:04):
away from these devices. The more time we take away
from it, the more we see how much we get
dumped down by the focus that it steals from us.
And yeah, people definitely need to become aware of that.
They need to become aware of it, and video games
(17:25):
and the music that they listen to. In all things,
we need to start paying attention because you know, with
knowledge our defense against mind control, we have a vast
array of application for that knowledge. Where we need to
start understanding that mind control has been far reaching, and
(17:48):
it's gone into TV and computerization and video games and music,
and it's all around us. And yet we don't need
to succumb to it. We can raise our frequency and
rise above it anytime we use. But it takes our
reclamation of free thought to access our free will so
(18:09):
that we can make a wise decision in light of
soul expression. With sole expression comes discernment of truth.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
You know.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
So we have ben let us stray away from our
own divine saving grace mechanisms for a long long time,
and it's time we reclaim it and reclaim our very
humanity and realize that this is ultimately a spiritual warfare.
(18:38):
When we can't even think together the strength of the
human spirit anymore because our conscious mind is being so
traumatized freezes in fright while our subconscious being bombarded with
whatever repetitive narrative that they want to give us and
sit they while they sit in back laughing that they've
worshiped Satan, you know, I mean like you were. And
(19:00):
it's just we need to start paying attention to safeguarding
our own free thought and take care of ourselves so
that we're more effective in protecting our children for future generations.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Oh, that is so true. And I was I was
just thinking. I was talking to a lady the other
day and I told her that she needed to watch
the documentary Out of Shadows, And I don't know if
you've seen it or not, but it's two of the
top Hollywood stunt men who were, like, you know, the
leading like you know, Batman and Superman. They were the top,
(19:40):
and they did a documentary that is so good. It's
free to watch if anybody wants it. But it's on
how mk ultra mind controlled was built into Hollywood and
what they started noticing when they started waking up to
reality of where they were working and what might be
going on around the that they may not have noticed before.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Yeah, Liz Croken and Mike, they're just wonderful people that
I'm well familiar with and have spent a lot of
time talking with and everything else, and they've they've certainly
done their part in being able to bring that information
out through out of shadows and now into the light.
There's more information, and you know, everybody's coming at it
from every direction they can in order to help wake
(20:25):
up the population. Look at look at how much you
are contributing with what you do all the time by
not only bringing truth to light, but reminding people about
the organic, healthy lifestyle that we all need to be living,
because that's reclaiming our birthright to good nutrition and inner
(20:45):
peace and well being and good health. You know, it's important,
it's very important.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Thank you so much. And we have so many questions, Kathy,
I think we could spend a good hour or two
hours answering him. But for everyone sending in questions, thank
you so much. We will get to them. But Kathy,
I have so wanted to continue you sharing with us
the way that Mark helped you and guided you to
(21:13):
heal yourself from all the trauma that you had had
all your life and since a baby, and how you
were able to do that because you know, as we
were talking before the show, it doesn't matter who we
are in the world. We've all been traumatized in some way,
shape or form by something that's gone on in our lives,
(21:36):
and it's all relevant to our own lives. So you know,
maybe we aren't a Kathy O'Brien or something like that,
but the trauma in our life is real and it
can hurt. And we all are looking for ways of
making our lives healthier and better and moving into this new,
more peaceful world without these signs in saying, kind of
(21:59):
mafia psychopaths running running our world anymore. And I'm very
prayerperal and hopeful that we're moving into a better, more
awakened era where people are just simply gonna laugh at
those people and say be gone, or I'm gonna throw
water on you like that we get into the way.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's time we do that, because there's
there's no business. They have no business meddling in our
brilliant minds and lives anymore. They're just a low, dark,
negative vibration energy force and we have all the power
they own, as much power as we give them and
let them steal. Mark found our birthright information on healing
(22:40):
Buried under national security. It had been buried since it
was the formula for mind control was imported into the
US through Project paper Clip. That means for generations now
our birthright information on our own mind brain function has
been withheld from mental health, the medical community, and from
(23:02):
society as a whole. We have forgotten it. We haven't
been passing this information down, but we sure can remember
it real fast and PTSD time to heal. It's secured
on my website at transformation dot com, so everybody can
have it now and download it and start applying it
(23:22):
because it's not about me, and it's a healing method.
It's a reminder of what we've been blessed with wrong.
We have the body minded spirit, we have capacity for
healing and remembering who we are, why we're here, so
that we can all gather our strength of spirit and
start living the love we are you know, and live
(23:43):
life the way it was intended. When Mark found that
buried under national security, he couldn't release it because he
was working the highest levels of intelligence mind sciences to
preserve the sanctity of free thought. But he couldn't release
it because he was bound by laws of sedition. So
he took action out of the swamp, the human trafficking swamp,
(24:04):
and handed me those keys to my own mind. And
even though he couldn't release the information, I certainly could
because I'm not bound by laws of this edition.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Okay, Rebel, I think Kathy. Is Kathy still here? She froze?
Speaker 3 (24:21):
She said, our ability to cope.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Okay, Kathy, you froze for a minute, so you cut
off for a second as sorry. I was asking Rebel,
my wonderful sound engineer, if you are still here. So
I think you dropped off right when you were saying
that you know where you were able to release that
information and then heal yourself as well.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Yes, well, everybody needs this information and it's so easy
to self apply. One of the most important ones is
to pick up a pen and paper and write out
your grief, right out your trauma right, oh, any negativity
that's immobilizing you. And what that does is when you
(25:08):
pick up a pen and paper. A keyboard does not
do the same thing. But when we pick up a
pen and paper, we activate the logic critical analysis part
of the brain, so we can shift all those emotionally
and comprehensible traumas and fears overwhelming grief, even guilt, anything
(25:30):
that immobilizes as shift it over to logic, where it's
dealt with consciously. When we see it in front of us.
That opens neuron pathways in the brain. The mind controlled
mind manipulation shuts them down. We need to open those
neuron pathways back up for optimum thinking. We need to
(25:51):
be able to gather our strength, a spirit, and our wisdom.
We need to access to all of our brain and
get it firing again the way that it was intended to.
So I would encourage everyone to apply that trip to themselves.
When Mark passed away in twenty seventeen, Nancy the whole
(26:12):
world lost hero. I lost my soulmate, my best friend,
and my hero, and was very, very difficult dealing with that.
I knew that I was vulnerable. I knew that I
was suggestible at that time from the overwhelming grief. So
I made sure I shut off TV, I shut off
all devices. I picked up a pen and a paper,
(26:34):
and I began writing poems. I began venting and binding.
Ultimately that all of the things Mark and I had
experienced gave me strength and a wisdom that I could
carry forward, and so then I would vent a poem
to in gratitude for that. But by moving that pen
(26:58):
and paper, I was able to keep my brain active
and to keep the neural pathways open to be able
to maintain self control through this most traumatic time. That
is a time when many people experience overwhelming numbers of
people selling them something or even you know, anything that
(27:21):
they can make money off of our grief, and we
need to realize that beforehand so that we can protect
ourselves and not give in to those who would capitalize
on our vulnerabilities. When we understand our own mind brain function,
pick up that pen and paper and get those neuron
(27:43):
pathways firing again, we begin to understand how to protect
ourselves better and to protect the sanctity of free thought.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Especially.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
You know that if we just get writing by hand
back in the school system, we can stop the indoctor
name of our children. We'll learn how to think again
instead of being taught what to think.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
You know. So this is a.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Very important key that Mark gave me that everyone can
apply to themselves to deal with whatever they're having to
cope through in their own life, and then to apply
some of the other simple.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Methods too, like petting your dog.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Getting outside, getting your feet in the earth, your hands
in the dirt, breathe in the air, feel the sun
on your skin. Consciously feel it all and embrace it
again and it will help you to consciously ground back into.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Self control and inner peace.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Oh I love that, And so I had a couple
of questions for you on that, Kathy. Do you do
you write it once? Do you need to write it
more than once? Does it need to be in print
or does it matter if you're writing incursive or do
you do you need to read it out loud also
or is it just enough to just do it once?
(29:04):
And I think in the last show you mentioned that
at the end of some of the traumas and things
that you had written out, you put something positive like
that was going to come out of that or I'm
not sure what it was, but if you could expand
on that, that would be much appreciated.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Yes, Mark had taught me voice no negatives without a solution. Well,
I had only followed orders robotically the first thirty years
of my life and didn't even know how to make
a decision or think for myself. So I had to
activate that part of my brain by saying voice no
negatives without a solution. Not only did it save him
from having to listen to me complain all the time,
(29:46):
but it gave me an opportunity to exercise and force
my brain to think in new ways. So that opened
more neuround pathways in the brain. And it's so I
encourage everyone if they're writing out there their grief or
their trauma, or the negativity that's immobilizing them, whatever their
fear might be, write all that out, get that out,
(30:10):
and then add a solution. Because when you add a solution,
it lifts you out of that dark pit of negativity.
It raises you above the storm, so to speak, so
you can see a clear path forward.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
So it's very important for.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
All of us to start exercising in terms of solutions.
I think it's a great thought that what if social
media had some kind of rual voice, no negatives without
a solution, people couldn't get on there and complain and
snap judge. They'd have to offer solutions and I'd changed
the world right there, you know. So it's an important exercise.
(30:51):
As for when I was writing out my memory, I
didn't necessarily add the solution at that moment because that
was uh, its own kind of deprogramming by writing out
past trauma. And I when I would write it out,
I would write it out in photographic detail, because our
(31:13):
brains photograph, They photographically record events surrounding trauma. So I
would hear voices of my abusers, and I would say,
who who it was, what were they saying, why were
they saying?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
You know?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
And it would just really helped me to be able
to write out all that trauma. When I did, I
would notice that my handwriting was vastly different in the
from the different compartments of my memory as I would
write it out. If it happened to me in childhood
(31:51):
or earliest childhood, I printed. If it happened on more
in grade school level, then I would start writing, you know,
I'm might write it and cursive, so it varies according
to expression of the moment. The expression that we project
(32:11):
through that pen onto paper reveals a lot about us.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Like even in.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Graphology, it shows how if we're writing incursive and we're
going with that flow, and all of a sudden there's
a little catch in an oh, and we keep going
and then there's another catch and the why is that happening? Well,
it's because the heart is doing a little irregular tick
(32:38):
right at that point, and it's reflecting in this flow
of that pen. So we can actually if when we
understand that aspect of handwriting, we can look at that
and start focusing on making that circle round, make that
oh round without a tick in it. And that's taking
(33:01):
control of our heartbeat with our mind from the other side,
which actually can regulate our heartbeat. And it teaches us
how much control our minds have over our bodies, and
we can start realizing that we have that control when
we access for ourselves. So you know, this take in
(33:25):
writing by hand out of the school system is really
robbing humanity of a very important physical expression of our
inner most being.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Well, that was so brilliant, and yes, it's just another
way of mind control and brainwashing of the children today.
I mean, it's basically what they planned on doing when
Rocke Villas a school system. And I know they redid
all the history books from nineteen fifty two to nineteen
fifty four, which is when I was born, and you know,
(34:00):
took out true facts and tossed just a bunch of
useless information that I have probably never used my life,
and and most of it is incorrect from I'm gathering now,
which is just really horrifying. But you know the fact
that they have all these kids in schools sitting for
hours under lighting. Yeah, I'm very good.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Ahead, No, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
I think we're getting a little pickup in the in
the little disruption and communications occasionally.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Okay, sorry, yeah, I am too.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Well, it's just you know, technology is a mixed blessing
for sure.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Yeah, exactly, exactly, And yeah, but the writing behind is
such an important aspect of our being that we need
to take back and understand too that history has been
rewritten in the school system when it went to computerization.
They went and to program the kids further to accept
(35:05):
a global agenda. They don't even know how to do
math anymore properly, they don't know what economics are. All
the important stuff was taken out of the education system
in order to make us more compliant and lead into
this globalist slave society agenda that were being fed.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yes, yes, that's beautifully said. And I'm a school teacher.
I used to be a school teacher. I taught for
like two years, and they were drugging all the kids,
and kids are not meant to sit in a classroom
under horrifying light still all day long. It's not healthy.
(35:47):
And then to drug them all up and make them
think something's wrong with them and that they need a
drug to solve their problem. I mean, that's just another
mind control thing because they're basically saying drug solve your problem. Right,
So then you've got a whole bunch of drug addicts
coming out of school, right.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
And big Pharma reaped benefit.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Oh boy, it is. It's such a tangled web that
they have woven. And we are we are unweaving it
as we go. And you are, you are just the
angel of unweaving. And I just you know, you're such
a blessing to the world with all your information. One
of our listeners was just asking, what is the name
(36:27):
of your book? And the name of her book that
she wrote is called Transformation of America, The True Story
of a CIA mind control Slave, and it is co
authored by Mark Phillips, her amazing rescuer, brilliant angel. And
I know one of the questions last week was Kathy,
(36:50):
when we ended the show last week, they wanted to
know what happened to your daughter? Did you get your
daughter back? And how is she doing?
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Yes, quickly on the books. They're available on audible or
through my website. Trance is my Marks. In my nineteen
ninety five testimony for Congress access denied for reasons in
National Security, tells our journey through the corrupted justice system
to help my daughter who had been born into MK
(37:22):
ultra and then medically kidnapped into the corrupted Child Protective Services.
They just took custody of her, and we did everything
we could to free her from that system. PTSD time
to heal of courses is on my website right there
for everybody to have. But that information is something that
(37:45):
while Kelly was with us, when my daughter was with
marking me for about a year before they medically kidnapped her,
she was able to gain access to her own mind,
her own free thought, free will expression, and she says
now that it's her saving grace. It allowed her to
(38:06):
not buy into what they were trying to program her
with through the corrupt system. And Kelly is probably the
most brilliant, amazing example of the strength of the human
spirit and the infinite power of love.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
She and I are very very close. She's she lives
the love. She she is.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
She's always outside with animals and nature and enjoying that aspect.
She spends very little time around any kind of social
media or anything, so she's not out there so publicly,
but she is brilliant. She's amazing and absolutely resilient. I
(38:51):
just I'm so proud of her and so excited for
her and what it means for all humanity that there
is nothing that life can put in front of us
that we can't overcome.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
She has living proof of it.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
That's such a beautiful message, and I hope everybody out
there is hearing that message, because you know, these two
women have been just absolute blessings to our lives by
being able to heal themselves and then share the message
of what the truth is about the dis government all
these people that are in these high power positions that
(39:29):
are absolutely harming and not having any of our best
interest at heart from what I can tell. And so
I wanted to talk today about how Mark introduced nutrition
to you, Kathy, because I know you were living on
like three hundred calories a day for like thirty years
(39:50):
of your life, which is to me just absolutely mind
blowing that that is, you know, something that would prevent
your body from having the proper nutrition so that it
could grow and function in the healthiest way possible. And
so you know, you had I had asked you about,
you know, the nutrition, because I write the healthy nutrition
(40:11):
cookbooks and things, and you were like, oh, my goodness.
You know, Mark helped us with that. And I would
love for you to share some of your ideas on
how other people can can heal them their bodies and
do that through proper nutrition.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Well, our brains get starved, and mine was very deliberately starved,
and it had adverse effects on my whole physical body,
on my digestion and everything else. And I was in
such bad physical shape when Mark first rescued us that
he literally carried me around for a long a long
(40:50):
time while he was getting my health back through good nutrition.
He knew exactly what's needed to feed the brain. And
so I ate, I ate real well. Mark, Mark had
a lot of money in his bank accountanty rescued me,
(41:10):
but it was over three million dollars and the government
took it from him. So it was they said it was.
They took his life, saving us for saving a life.
You know, it's so classic what they do. They thought
it would stop us, it didn't, and it didn't even
stop Mark from knowing that good nutrition was essential and
(41:34):
that it could be found even on the tightest of budgets. So,
you know, the tighter the budget, and I think sometimes
more you grow your own and to make sure that
it's organic and nutritious, and and it got.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
My health back.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
I think way better than ever, you know, than most
people experience. It's it's such an important integral part of
our life, and I'm I'm happy to have learned from
Mark the importance of that and maintaining it every day
that I live.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
That's so wonderful. Do you have a specific favorite recipe
he taught you, or food that you and your daughter
liked to eat sometimes that you feel as like one
of your favorite healthy foods or dishes.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
I think what I learned most of all is to
listen to my body and see what it needs. Back
when Mark was telling was trying to help me learn
to think and get my brain firing and make decisions.
He would ask me, what do you want for dinner?
I didn't know. I couldn't think to make up a
decision on that, And eventually I tuned into my body
(42:42):
and learned what it was needing and so then I
would be able to come up with an answer based
on listening.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
To my body.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
So I still do that today, Kelly and I both
do you know, we'll say, you know, my brain needs
a boost, let's have some salmon tonight.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
You know. It's something like that.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
So it's all a matter of really just listening to
our bodies and giving it what it needs.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Oh, I love that. So, Kathy, we're getting towards the
end of the show and we have so many questions.
We have five minutes. We have one question that is
are these standalone books or is there an order in
which to read them? What would you suggest ree Transformation
of America first, and then Access Denied and then that
(43:28):
third book.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
I would go PTSD Time to Heal first, because that
just reminds us all how to think.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Free.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Access Denied is like a road map through the corrupted system.
And there's a lot of a lot of mothers out
there who are struggling to keep their children from being
sucked into this criminal system that is being dismantled, but
it's taking plenty of time to do it. So it's
a roadmap through our corrupted system. And it's also a
(43:59):
testament to the human spirit and power of love. So
I would definitely recommend access denied for reasons in national security.
And then finally Transformation of America. It's mighty hardcore. It
was written for Congress, It's compiled for my testimony for
Congress in nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Every word in it is validated.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
And that's why national security was invoked on it. But
it is secured on my website at Transformation dot com,
so you know, I would recommend people go there for it.
The free ebooks that they post on the internet have
been altered to promote this globalist agenda and to dilute truth.
(44:44):
So not only is truth censored, it's diluted. Make sure
you go straight to the to the authors, and in
my case, yeah, I definitely recommend PTSD time to heal
first so we all have our discernment of truth, sharp
and clear.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Love that thank you Les for that for that question.
And then Dalton wants to know is there a connection
with doing writing in the brain and Kathy, you know,
I learned many years ago that the brain and the
heart are connected when you write, and the actually what
you mentioned about the O or having that you know, Glitchen,
(45:21):
there there's a lady named Vimmela Rogers that I uh
really looked at many years ago, and she has a
program called Change Your Writing, Change your Life, and she
believes the school actually taught us how to how to
write incorrectly. Yes, you write the letters correctly. It literally
(45:44):
changes the way your brain functions.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
It does because it's an expression of ourselves, and we're
taught to all be exactly alike, you know, in the
way that we write in the school system.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
So yeah, they are teaching us wrong. They're teaching us.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
All to be nice, little exact same when in fact
our differences are beautiful.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yes, thank you, and thank you Jenna for that question
about the books in order. And so I'm trying to
get through some of these questions. Uh here before before
we have to end the show. So let's Leslie is
asking Walter Konkai worked for Disney. Do you think he
was involved in the mind control? Well, yes, you and
(46:26):
you answer that one cat there we go. Yes, I
would say all of these main people front are part
of the Satanic system. So Janice is asking, what do
you think about parents giving infants cell phones and tablets?
Speaker 4 (46:44):
Oh, isn't that that's just that's just programming from the start.
It's like when they used to set us in front
of a TV to babysit us, you know, just to
keep us occupied. That's not healthy, that's not good function. No,
that's just that's just dumbing them down from the start.
And yeah, people need to wise up to that and
(47:05):
understand the effects that that these devices are having on
our brains. Taken us full circle back around to what
you started this with Nancy on the television and the
effect that it had. Well, these these tablets and cell phones,
there are a step above that. You know, it's got
(47:26):
to stop. We gotta we gotta wise up.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
And that's not a way to raise a child.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
I actually know a teenager that will not look up
and will not take the phone out of her hand,
and it it just makes me my heart sick. Are
just so sad to look at her and her parents
do nothing about it and they don't know what to do.
But she's addicted to it. And I know they build
these these addiction things into them because the people that
(47:53):
make these programs in Silicon Valley make their people that
take care of their kids sign no screen agreements that
if their child SE's the screen, they are fired.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
Because they know how dangerous they are, and so it's
really sad for at the end.
Speaker 5 (48:10):
Of the show against Kathy, You've also have been so
honored to have you on the show, and you know,
if you'll join me again, we'll try to answer more
of these questions that we have, numerous ones that we
haven't gotten to yet.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
But you know what we should, We should do a
whole show of nothing but questions and answers from your following.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
That would be wonderful. Let's set up a date and
do that. And for everybody listening, just know that I'm
going to put that out there and Kathy is just
so wonderful and sweet, and we'll find a date that
she can join me and we can answer these questions.
And Kathy, in just a you know, brief moment, can
you just you know, give a parting thought to our
(48:51):
wonderful listeners today.
Speaker 4 (48:53):
Thank you so much for this opportunity again, it's always
such a delight.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Talking with you.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
And yeah, I just to encourage everyone to remember who
they are, why they're here, and start living the.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
Love they are. We got all the power.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
It's up to us, lovely, all right, everyone out there,
just go read Kathy's books and stay strong and and
get out in nature.
Speaker 4 (49:18):
Yeah really yeah, eat nutritionally and we love you.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
And thank you, Kathy, thank you,
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Cardiac Cowboys
The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.