September 2, 2025 • 49 mins
Nancy Addison talks with Cathy O’Brien, author and nationally and internationally recognized US Government Whistleblower. Cathy has been speaking out for over 35 years on her experience in MK Ultra mind control. Her knowledge is our defense against mind control, and Cathy’s experience on a White House/Pentagon level empowers her insight into far reaching effects of mind control on society and what you can do to reclaim, protect, and expand your free thought. Website: https://trance-formation.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
Welcome to Organic Healthy Lifestyle And I'm Nancy Addison, your host,
and I am just so joyful to be with y'all
each week. And I love to start off my show
with a prayer because I feel like it just gives
it that really positive energy. So today I'm going to
read the Lord's Prayer translated from Aramaic directly into English,
(01:00):
and rather than Aramaic to Greek to Latin to English,
it is a completely different translation than the one I
grew up with. So if you're just joining in whichever
way you would like, O Cosmic Birther of all radiance
and vibration, soften the ground of our being and carve
out a space within us where your presence can abide.
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Fill us with your creativity so that we may be
empowered to bear the fruit of your mission. Let each
of our actions bear fruit in accordance with our desire.
Endow us with the wisdom to produce and share what
each being needs to grow and flourish. Untie, the tangled
threads of destiny that bind us as we release others
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from the entanglement of past mistakes. Do not let us
be seduced by that which would divert us from our
to true purpose, but illuminate the opportunities of the present
moment for you or the ground in the fruitful vision,
the birth, the power, and the fulfillment as all is
gathered and made whole once again. And I asked this
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for everyone listening now and everyone listening in the future,
and in the highest good of all concerned, And thank you,
and so it is, and so y'all for an amazing
treat Today we get to have Kathy O'Brien back on
for the third time. I mean, she's just been amazing
(02:30):
and just for y'all who may have missed the other
two shows. Kathy O'Brien, she's incredible. She's an internationally recognized
US government whistleblower. She's been speaking out bravely and courageously
for over thirty five years of her experience as an
MK ultra mind control slave. Her knowledge is our defense
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against mind control and Kathy's experience at the White House
Pentagon levels empowers her to have insight of the effects
of mind control on society and how you can what
you can do to help reclaim and protect and expand
your free thought and even free yourself from trauma as well.
(03:15):
Welcome back to the show, Kathy.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Thank you. I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Oh my gosh, you are just the most delightful person,
and I'm just so excited how everybody just loves the
previous shows we did, and some of them were like,
oh my goodness. The television is patented as a emitting
an electronic field that can affect your nervous system and
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viewers and induce certain emotional states and alter your behavior.
So how many people know TV is a mind control device? Yeah,
it's really amazing. But Kathy, we got so many questions
from our listeners in the last two shows. I have
I don't know two or three pages of them here,
(04:08):
and I thought we would try to make our way
through it and see, if you know, we could answer
some of our I have some of the most brilliant
listeners and they're so kind and it's really refreshing when
you get to connect with people all over the world
in such a way. But one of the things that
(04:31):
I think is so important is the fact that you
having been through all the just incredibly horrendous trauma that
you were in for the first thirty years of your life,
the fact that you've been able to I really believe
you've been able to heal yourself and become like one
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of the most kind people I've ever talked to. But
also it feels like to me that you've been able
to let go and release a lot of the anger.
I don't ever hear any anger in your voice. And
you know, I know people have a lot of trauma
in their lives. We all have trauma in our lives
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in some way, shape or form. It may not have
been quite as horrific as yours, but you know, we're
all trying to heal and so when we focus on
certain things. I know, you did a recent blog the
other day that was so good, and it's on how
to not come out as a victim. So how do
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you let go of that trauma and drop the anger
and then stop coming from a victim mode. I think
that is something that I myself have struggled with after
certain situations.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, it's it's quite a difficulty that people face today.
There's so many survivors that are emerging varying levels of
abuse and control, whether it's MK ultra mind control, satanic
ritual abuse, domestic abuse, whatever it might be. You know,
the people have endured a lot of trauma and they're
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wanting to be able to heal. But for generations now, Nancy,
information on our mind, brain function, our resiliency of body,
mind and spirit, all the capabilities that we've been blessed
with for so long have been suppressed under national security.
That's so people can be conditioned to look outside themselves
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to big government, big pharma, big tech, big cultical religion
to tell them how to live their lives, and worse,
to look around society, a society that's been deliberately made
ignorant and dumbed down to try to get help from them,
and they don't know how to help. They don't know
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how to help themselves, let alone somebody else. So this
information on our healing resiliency is very important to get
back into society. And I'm very fortunate to have been
able to heal with that information because it's our birthright information.
This is information we all need to know to realize
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that we don't have to be victims. Our whole life,
our system, our medical system, our mental health system, society
is all conditioned to perpetuate a victim mentality because that's
what the globalist agenda is wanting in order to keep
us compliant and doing exactly what they say. Well, we
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need our free thought, we need our brilliant minds and lives.
We need our resiliency that we've been blessed with all
along to resurface, and it takes remembering who we are
and why we're here. So haven't healed from within? Is
what has allowed me to move forward in light of
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truth and joy, out of love for humanity, out of
determination to share this information to remind everyone that it's
within us to heal. That is a much more powerful
motivation than being hateful and bitter and negative towards my abusers.
That's their vibration. They can't have any more of that.
For me. I'm going to live the love I am.
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I'm going to bring truth to light so others can
be empowered to heal from within themselves too, Because when
survivors are looking for help and look outside themselves, they're
going to be met with ignorance. They're going to be
met with attitudes that only perpetuate that victim mentality, and
that's not fair. They need to realize their answers are within,
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they don't need to look outside themselves anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
That's so beautiful. Thank you. And you know when you
are saying that, I know one of the TV shows
or move that they would have you watch as part
of your mind control programming was The Wizard of Oz
And you know, at the end she tells her, You've
always been able to go home. You just didn't realize
(09:13):
you had it in you, right, Yeah, it's kind of
like the Truman Show, like Truman. I know, doctor Lee Merritt,
she you know, she thinks we're all living in the
Truman Show, and she may be very well, right.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah, Well, we have so much resiliency and so much
capacity for healing. And I would encourage everyone to check
out the overcoming victim Mentality that I just posted on
my website at trance dashformation dot com t r A
n ce pyphonformation dot com. People need that information and
(09:54):
I see it more and more where there's so much infighting,
you know, would survive get together and they're all fighting,
and it's because they're voicing their trauma and everybody's you know,
sharing their programming instead of their freedom. And that freedom
comes in silence. It comes through picking up that pen
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and paper and journaling and taking that that journey back
to health yourself, because it's within us all to have
that healing, that personal journey no one else. We don't
need any more outside input. We need to be able
to go within, align with the divine within, and reclaim
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our birthright to live in life that it was intended
to be.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
That is that's beautiful, thank you. So we're gonna just
start in with some of these questions. And first we
have Wesley who's asking, uh, where he can listen to
our shows that we did before, and you can listen
to him on W four c Y Radio or they
upload him to my podcast channel on iHeart Radio and
(11:01):
it's Organic Healthy Lifestyle Podcasts. And we have both of
the shows that Kathy was on very recently, so you
can just scroll back through the shows. But in one
of the shows before Kathy, Jason was asking, is there
a way to dump the mind of these unwanted like
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mind control thoughts that have been forced into our brain
or leaked into our brain.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
What do you think, absolutely same thing. Pick up that
pen and paper and write it out. Because when you
the very active move and a pen activates the logic
critical analysis part of the brain. It opens neuron pathways
in the brain. My control shots them down, awareness opens
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them up. And by writing with a pen on paper,
typing does not do the same brain thing. By moving
that pen and writing it out or even drawing it
out is effective. But to actually move that pen it
transfers programmed information emotionally incomprehensible trauma, fear, any repetitive media, narrative,
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any social conditioning, anything that you feel is not in
harmony with your life's purpose. Write it out, get it
out of your brain, clean house, clean that brain out,
and write that information out, literally write it out, and
then when you see it on paper, you consciously deal
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with it. And then that way you don't have it
in your brain cluttering up space anymore. It frees your
mind to advance forward in the directions that you choose.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Oh, I love that. That is so great. And something
I've learned over the years is that when we have
a thought, it triggers certain pathways in the brain and
builds on that. And so the more you think of something,
the more stronger that gets. And if it's a negative
or from a past trauma, that's really big. And so
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you have to really push your way into new experiences
and new thoughts in order to build new pathways to
offset the old trauma. So what do you think about that?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Kathy, Absolutely that is in PTSD Time to Heal has
posted on my website. Those are the healing methods that
Mark taught me. That's our birthright information that was buried
under national security and I could release it. I'm not
bound by laws of edition. It was my experience to
heal with it. So I'm sharing it with everyone so
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that we can remember that we have these amazing capacities
and resiliencies within us and we're able to overcome any
negative drivers so that we can choose our path forward.
And it's a great brain exercise to choose our thoughts.
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It's not always easy to do. It's like pushing a
river or used to just going with the flow. But
if we push that river and think in new ways
and open new new pathways, we're able to stop the
entrenchment of those negative thoughts. It could be a negative
thought that we were conditioned with from childhood, that we're
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no good or we're worthless or whatever, And you can
write that out, get it out of your brain, and
reclaim that space for yourself. Choose thoughts going forward. What
really is your free will choice? What's in harmony with
your life's purpose. That's the way to make a decision
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is to know what's in harmony with love, what you're
choosing true to soul rather than following nagging, you know,
undermining man that has subliminally slipped into our subconscious.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
So here's the question for you, Kathy, about like our
subconscious and how our mind has an amazing or our
body has an amazing ability to try to protect us
from these traumas. So it like creates different personalities or
different things depending on you know, what trauma's being subjected
to at the time. And I have a friend who
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has like blackouts about their childhood, like they can't remember
almost anything, and then they also have like a scar
on their on their forehead, and you know, she has
just always wondered, you know, what is it I've blocked out?
Is there a way that you would know that she
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could possibly open that part of her mind up.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Absolutely, and those are some more tips and PTSD time
to heal that are easy to self apply because they're
natural and they give us the ability to access our
own subconscious mind, to be able to access repress memory
and bring it to conscious thoughts so it can be
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dealt with instead of leaving it there to undermine our
everyday activities. So it's a matter of picking up that
pen and paper. There's other ways to do it too,
like making a collage can reveal very much the subconscious mind.
There's different things that we do and say every day
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that indicate that something is going on down there that
needs to be that needs to be consciously dealt with.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Ye know, this is such an interesting kind of the
whole thing to look into because there's just so many
pathways you can go down, and Heaven in our chat
room is asking this is cause d I D. I
don't even know what d I D is. D You
know what that is.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Absolutely, it's the proper term for repressed memory. It's called
dissociative identity disorder. It's the term that came into being
in the early nineties to replace the old term of
multiple personality disorder because compartmentalization of memory is a compartmentalization
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of aspects of one personality that come, you know, exhibit
at different times according to being triggered, you know, whether
it's angry or you know, or complacent or whatever. That
life trauma created that kind of response mechanism. But multiple
personalities is a misnomer because it's just one personality that's
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been shattered and compartmentalized. So dissociative identity disorder is a
more action you're it terminology that describes what happens when
trauma occurs in the neuron pathways and the brain shut
down or around that trauma and repress it deep into
the subconscious so the rest of the mind can develop
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and function normally. If it's not addressed, though, that repressed
memory will start undermining our everyday actions. The past starts
intruding on the present, and it makes us make bad decisions.
Sometimes we've had abuse in childhood that's not dealt with
and is only repressed. We haven't acknowledged it yet or
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brought it to mind. That can influence our choice of
mate in the future, one that we might gravitate to
someone who's abusive because the brain is trying to remember
what had happened, and it will gravitate towards that what
they're used to, that familiarity, whatever, that compartmentalization of memory
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is used to, and it will gravitate to that trauma.
So it can end up in really bad relationships. That
can cause problems in careers. It can undermine everything less
it's consciously dealt with. We don't need to be dissociative
of what happened. We need to deal with it full
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on and again PTSD Time to Heal shows us how
it's very simple. It's our birthright.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Well, I'll tell you your books are fabulous, and some
member a little bit harder to get through than others
because they're very traumatic. But for everyone listening out there,
I highly recommend all of Kathy O'Brien's books, and they
can find a lot. They can find all of this
on your website right treants dashformation dot com.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yes, and they can find my books on audible too.
I read them myself to preserve the integrity of them.
Information Transformation of America is my nineteen ninety five testimony
for Congress that was censored under national security. Every bit
of it's true, but it is traumatic. It's not intended
for the public access denied for reasons. The National Security
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tells Marx in my journey through the corrupted justice system,
the corrupted so called child Protective services to help my
daughter Kelly, who is medically kidnapped and thrust into that
corrupt system, So that one is like a road map
into where the riots of corruption are planted throughout our
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system today, so that parents can safely navigate through it
all for the safety and well being of their children.
And then, of course PTSD Time to Heal, which is
simple little workbook, very thin, it's easy to self apply,
and it's our birthright reminder that we all can heal.
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These are the methods I use for healing that we
all can use. When we heal from within, we can't
be triggered anymore. We get to live freely. We get
to live the love we are and live our life's
purpose the way it was intended. So I'd recommend yeah,
everyone can look into those into those books according to
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which one or which ones fit their need and fit
their their learning path.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
So Kevin's asking which which book should he start with
if he wants to know more about the d I
D information, Would that be the the PTSD book.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I would look into that to understand the BA, the
mind brain function, and how easy it is for us
to heal when we have the knowledge that is our
defense against mind control and our birthright information for healing.
So yeah, I would recommend that. It's so simple it
could just sit down and you know, go through that
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in an evening. Of course, it's a little workbook to
be applied, but to read through it gives a very
good understanding of the brain function and how compartmentalization occurs
and how it can be freed. And then from there,
I would definitely recommend access denied for reasons in national security,
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because it's a testament to the human spirit and the
power of love and provides deep information on mind control,
how it's being used on society today in the education
system and even through the medical system to fund big
pharma instead of empower our healing. So yeah, I would
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recommend definitely that order.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Thanks. Yeah, I mean I think the pharmaceutical industry is
just tied in with all of this. I think it's
part of their program to control it in poison it.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Yeah, it is there at the top, there, the very top,
follow the money because the money will lead right to
the puppet masters at the top, and they go straight
to Big Pharma, who they even own the media. You know,
look look at all the ads. They're the ones who
are are funding it. Then consider that Big Pharma is
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the one who owns the education system that teaches the doctors,
and it doctrinates them to follow Big Pharma's protocol for
treatment rather than healing. You know, So when we start
looking at the top of it, yeah, big farmer right there,
right there at the top. They need to they need
to be brought down. And it's easy for us to do.
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We can defund them by simply not buying into their
nonsense anymore.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Kathy, as you were recovering, and now that you, I
feel like you've really recovered. And but do you still
get triggered by certain trigger words? And how can people
know what their trigger word is and how they can
possibly heal from getting triggered by them?
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Again, Well, the triggers would be indigenous to certain traumas.
And you know, I think everybody had the program repetitive
media narrative to mask up social distance, get the injection.
And now still when we hear mask up, you know,
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it's you know, it gets that little catch and that's
that's an example of a trigger. So those are things
like another trigger would be when I say nine to
one one. You know, the image that we see in
our mind instantly is a plane flying into the tower.
Whether that was real, whether that was not, the fact
is that was what the media showed us repetitively, and
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it programmed are subconscious. So when we hear nine one one,
we see the plane flying into the tower. So those
are those are examples of trigger, and it's what catches
our attention and just you know, dominates our mind in
that moment. Those can be written out and dealt with accordingly.
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I don't trigger anymore because I've written them out. I
do know what that kind of thing is. So when
I hear a repetition, I don't buy into it. Again.
Knowledge is our defense against mind control, and I've got
that inside knowledge. When I see horrible images of children
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being you know, traffic is sexually assaulted. When I see
images the bloody images that we have seen in the
media for especially during the Biden administration, My gosh I
saw we saw is satanic blood trauma. But to see
those things as not healthy and even though the trigger
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is diffused. Understanding that that is not healthy takes a
conscious acknowledgement of choosing to not allow that to influence
the brain, and that can get exhausting in itself. So
sometimes it's just better to shut off the devices, get
away from that stuff, take a break, give your brain
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a break from having to counter triggers all the time
by getting out in nature and you know, breathing in
the air, doing something natural, and give your brain a
nice break from that nonsense.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Oh so that's good advice, and I so agree. And
it made me think of the fake COVID S pandemic
that they created and how they put that computer generated
proton or spike protein looking thing that they have actually
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never actually isolated ever in the history of the world.
How they put that everywhere along with their like talking points,
and I think doctor Tenpenny told me that they put
out something crazy like six billion you know mind control,
like uh, you know words that you know, like the
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mask and the you know you trust in the science,
all all of these different So I think the whole
world is having to heal from that trauma, don't you think.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Kathy, Absolutely they are, and that's why, you know, I say,
we're all affected by mind control because mk Ultra is
exactly the tool being used for a globalist life society
agenda and the the keys for that, the way that
they're using it. Once we understand it, it's like understanding
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a magic trick. It loses, it loses, it breaks the spell.
You know, it doesn't work anymore. So understanding it is
very important so that we don't ever comply with that
kind of mind control ever. Again.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
You know, it's interesting. I was listening to someone the
other day talk about English and how English was like
a spell language, like you know, it doesn't have the
verbs in the beginning of the sentence like they do
in most languages, and that you know, a lot of
the different things that that we grow up saying in
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English in many ways sound like something different, like the
word parents, are you a pair that rents because you
you know, signed over your child when they were born
to the state, you know, with a birth certificate, And
the word humanity and Black Law Dictionary actually means monsters,
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and and this person was talking about, you know, like
when we go into grocery store, when we go look
at any kind of advertising, they use these special trigger
words to you know, create urgency or confusion or make
you feel less, and then they of course have the
remedy or the opportunity. And have you gotten really good
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at just you know, seeing through all that and going hmm,
they're using a trigger word on me here.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Oh, absolutely absolutely. Wordplay is something that they always do
and and twist words to uh, to fit their agenda
without conscious mind filter, the subconscious just takes information in
without any ability to consciously comprehend question or reason. They
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can't even applicably, the subconscious can't even apply that kind
of programmed information. There's no creative application on that level.
It's just information in So to use a subliminal on people,
a word that has more meanings than what it sounds like,
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has a subconscious effect, especially if the conscious mind is distracted,
you know, So even something as transparent as transparent, all
of a sudden, you know, it takes on new meaning.
I play with words all the time, like perpetrators of abuse,
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you know, the perpetrators of mind control. They are traders.
They're traders of the whole human race. So I play
with words, and I sometimes I turn them around to
the most positive ever, like solution spelling. It with an
soul sole solution, because if we're going to be thinking
in terms of solutions, it needs to be in harmony
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with love. It needs to be in harmony with purpose.
It needs to be in harmony with our soul. It
doesn't need to be vengeance, it doesn't need to be hatred.
That's the vibration that's expected from us. We need to
keep our vibration high and come up with soullutions so
when we understand that kind of wordplay, we can use
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it to our advantage and actually just have fun with it.
I've got a poetry book about to come out, and
my poetry is written with double and triple meaning words
all the time, because that's the language of the subconscious
that I was manipulated by for so long, and I
turned it around to use it for positive, to use
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it for good, and to bring it to awareness of
people on how those words are twisted, manipulated to inspire
us and to action that they are wanting us to take. So,
you know, when we understand that and start looking at
the way our subconscious interprets versus high, our conscious mind interprets,
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you know, we got to keep that conscious mind filter
on there and realize that our subconscious is very suggestible,
very vulnerable, and just takes anything in and those words
can then be twisted and used in against us.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Well, I am so excited about your poetry book. That
sounds amazing. I get a wait to read it. And
I will say, your audible audio books and your reading
it is beautiful and it made all the difference in
the world for me because I actually listen to the
Transformation Book and it was really empower much more powerful,
(32:49):
I believe because you were reading it.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Oh yeah, I appreciate that, and I just think it's
it's important for preserving the integrity of information and being
able to find the most palatable way of receiving information
because you know, again, Trance was written for Congress. It
was all documented testimony, every word, and it was validated
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by clean members of intelligence and Secret service and law enforcement.
And it's harsh. It's harsh information. Some of us are
needing to deal with our own traumas before reading that,
you know what I mean. We all need to know
our own truth in order to recognize truth in others anyway,
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So we all need to work on ourselves first, and
I think PTSD time to heal is the absolute easiest
way to do that.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
So for this show, Kathy tell everyone one more time
what it is you do to heal that trauma. So
you have a trauma that pops in your head and
you're like struggling with it and you can't sleep, what
would you recommend.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
I'm picking up the pen and paper and writing it out.
You know, this can even work for our PTSD's military
veterans who need to stop that war within and have
horrible night terrors. They can keep a notebook in pen
right beside the bed, and if they wake up with
the night terrors, make a note of it and it
will shut off that alarm system. It will shut off
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that intrusion. It will shut off the past from intruding
on the present, and then they can go back into peaceful,
restless sleep. It's a way of reclaiming control over our
own minds and everyday life. If you're going along and
you have a flash from the past for whatever reason
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that is dominating your thoughts, just make a note of
it and it will shut off that alarm. It won't
be intruding anymore. You can go on about your life
and then sit down and cut off all devices and
in quiet, write it out in detail, How did you
get there? Where did you go after? You know, just
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write out the whole thing, and that will bridge the
neuuron pathways in the brain and it will open them
up so that it's not, you know, just compartmentalized anymore.
And that way it can't trigger and invade your space
when you're doing something else, you know. And it's just
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a really good way to be able to organize and
take control of our own minds.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Thank you so much for that, And so so for
someone who has gone through some trauma in their life
and let's say they feel unworthy, right and they find
themselves self sabotaging themselves in various ways throughout their life,
and they just want to go, why did I do that?
(35:54):
Do you have any device for them?
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Yeah? Same thing? Pick up that pat and pay paper.
Who told you that? Who said that? Whose voice do
you hear? When? When that that intrudes? And learn to
make good decisions Sometimes if it's not present enough to
even recognize that it's the subconscious intruding. Then if you're
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in a situation where you're going into a new career
or a new workspace and you want to make sure
this time it's not undermine. Then pick up a pen
and paper and make a list. Make a list of
the positive, make a list of the negative, Make a
list of what you can do in order to accomplish
your goal. You know, just making little lists sometimes helps
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us to stay focused and on track in the direction
that we consciously choose, because when we're writing, we're consciously choosing.
When we're just you know, giving into Oh I'm no good,
I'm no good. You know, never say that because the
words have power, and you're giving power to an old program.
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So don't voice it. Write it out and determine who
told you that, where you learn that, and then what
you can do about it. What is your choice going forward?
Why should you be free of that? What is it
you're wanting to accomplish? All these things by using a
pen and paper brings them into conscious self control.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
So I have a question for you, Kathy. In the past,
with some of my spiritual training and kind of woo
woo stuff that I've investigated throughout my life, trying to
figure out what is true and what is it true?
In some of them, they say that if you have
a negative thought come in your head or something that
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you you know, had an old trauma and that you
know comes you know, bursting into your mintier mindal scene
and they say, if you can catch it, you say,
I no longer need you and cancel, cancel, cancel, Or
if you say something that you probably shouldn't have said
that you don't want to like be you know, putting
(38:16):
something harsh out there into your own mind by you know,
repeating something negative. What because I know you've said the
three times, saying it three times like cancel, cancel, cancel,
saying it three times is in mind control program. So
you know, what do you think about that advice? And
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would you you know, support that or or or think
you know a different way is much much better.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
I definitely, you know, go back to the writing again,
because that takes it right out of the subconscious, whereas
just saying cancel, cancel, cancel is a choice of the moment.
It's a band aid instead of uprooting the problems. So
you know, let's let's get to the to the base
cause of it, and that would It's also like if
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somebody has an addiction and they go to a hypnotist
and the hypnotist tells them, you know, programs them not
to have that addiction. Then they will develop a different addiction,
or there will be an unrest, or there will be
something else. There'll be illness could even result because the
hypnosis is a intrusive, invasive way of attempting to deal
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with something that only actually makes it worse because it
doesn't uproot the causation. We've got to uproot that causation
in order to effectively stop it. We can't just band
aid over it and go on because it's going to
pop up somewhere else or it's going to manifest through
physical illness. So we always need to uproot, get to
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the cause of the matter, and write it out.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah, Kathy, I think back on when Mark just had
first rescued you and your daughter, and you were, I
don't know, on that journey of realizing they're really nice
people in the world and that you know, he's telling
you you can heal, or there's some you know, real
(40:23):
struggles and trying to find the fortitude in your inner
strength to even write down some of the most traumatic things.
I mean, it just seems like it's just so tough
to sometimes look at, you know, traumas that are in
your life and sometimes they are just so horrific. It
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just seems like you have to like really gear up
all your strength to handle it emotionally.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Yeah, definitely that. When my daughter Kelly was thrust into
the corrupt system that I saw being set up as
a catch in that operation, it was absolutely horrifying. And
people were ignorant. They didn't know what mind control was,
they didn't know what she had been through. And I
was doing everything I could to raise awareness for her.
(41:16):
And the whole thing is it is it? Especially when
at first unfolded, I was devastated and I cried and
cried and cried, and I front found out I was
only drowning in my tears. I wasn't helping my daughter
and her circumstance at all. And Mark told me then,
he said, you know, you got to take the negative
energy of this and turn it into a positive that
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empowers you. Need to use this energy like a martial
artist would, you know, and turn it around and make
it be the energy that carries you forward in a
productive way. So that was a really good lesson for me,
knowing that I could do channel that energy into love,
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because love is the most powerful force in the universe
and it was love for my daughter, that it was
all about anyway, So I channeled it into that aspect.
He also told me as I was writing up my memory,
I told him, I said, I can't live with myself
after what I did under mind control, not being able
to protect my own daughter, the plan for humanity, that
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I can't live with us. And he told me, he said,
you're not responsible for what you were tort you under
mind control. Your abusers are responsible for that and they
need to be held accountable for those actions. But now
that you are aware, you are responsible for all your
actions going forward. So that just completely freed me from
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the drag of what was imposed on me to realize
that what happens to us isn't who we are. Who
we are is within and it's divinely protected, and we
can access that and live that and use the knowledge
gained the energy from all of that to be turned
into a positive to propel forward faster and harder and
(43:11):
further than ever before. Again, love is the most powerful
force in the universe, so to be able to turn
that around is very empowering. It's something really that everyone needs.
After mind control. Mass is a virus because so many
people complied with media's repetitive narrative, and they're seeing the
devastating results of having masked up their children and limited
(43:35):
oxygen to their brain. They see the devastating effects of
the injection. People are having to deal with guilt and
grief and really that we need to write it all
out and understand we're not responsible for what we're programmed
to do under mind control. Our abusers are those puppet
masters are big pharma, big tech, big government. They are
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responsible for what we were programmed to do. But now
that we're aware of that, we are responsible for all
our actions going forward. We need to be effective of
protecting our children and make sure that we never comply again.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Oh bravo girl, You're a glorious force in this world
going towards peace, and I just want to envision it
always in peace. I want to know what you think of,
oh rebel our sound gingineer is. So we have like
four minutes, but I'd love to know, just really quick
and briefly what you think of AI.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
Oh ay I. Well, artificial intelligence is a linear, flat
thinking form of thought, just like criminal minds are flat thinking.
And Mark always told me wisdom. Oh thanks for criminal
minds every time wisdom outthinks artificial intelligence, and wisdom is
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our birthright. When we live the love we are, gather
the strength of the human spirit, have our free thought,
free will, soul expression. With our sole expression comes discernment
of truth, comes our wisdom, the height, the depth, the strength.
We have it all so I have no fear of
(45:25):
artificial intelligence. We just need to empower people to remember
who they are, why they're here, live the love they are,
and outthink criminals and artificial intelligence and light of our wisdom.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Well, that's so beautiful. And I have to admit I'm
not a big fan of a I know we.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Don't need to be it's but we don't have to
be afraid of it either, and limit it everywhere we can.
You know they're wanting to write every note for me
and every email. No I don't, I don't. I don't
know that that is no we can limit that. Some
people gravitate more towards it. We have a choice, make
(46:07):
a healthy one. Choose nature, Choose to align with the
divine within. Choose our birthright to live love and peace
and harmony, to be healthy, to eat healthy, to make
healthy choices in our lives. Making healthy choices means no, AI.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Well, I will agree with you. I don't use it
at all, and I'm not sure I will be using
it in the future. But I know that the Globalist
program did. I'm not sure I want it telling me anything.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Right, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
So, Kathy, we have like well about one minute left,
and if you can just share maybe a parting thought
and for everyone listening out there, it's Kathy O'Brien. Our
website is Trance t r a n C E dash
Formation f O R M A t I O n
(47:08):
dot com and she just has a wonderful blog. She
has all these great interviews that you will just love.
And Kathy, I'm just so honored to have you on
the show again and I just feel very blessed that
you've been able to share your brilliance with all of
our I do feel like I have some really incredibly
(47:28):
amazing listeners on my show, and so thank you, so much.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Thank you. I'm sure you've got great listeners because you're
just such a powerful energy yourself. You're such a bright light, Nanta.
I always love doing that. These conversations with you and
your questions are are brilliant. Keep living the loveyard. Keep
shining that light because you're influencing money. I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Oh well, well, you're my inspiration girl. You're like this
writing great beacon. You're a lighthouse in the world.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
And you're just so gracious to have shared your abilities
for everyone to heal themselves from all our traumas, because
I don't think there's a person on the planet that
and that's some kind of trauma in.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Their life, right right. Oh, we're all just grateful. Thank
you so much for joining us again today. And just
how about just a really quick parting thought for our listeners.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
I just encourage everyone to remember who they are, why
they're here, to start living the love they are. It's
our victory, it's our time.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
We got this, Yes we do. Everybody stands strong and
read all the Kathy's books. Look forward to talking to
y'all next week.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
If it is to dist
Speaker 4 (49:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
Welcome to Organic Healthy Lifestyle And I'm Nancy Addison, your host,
and I am just so joyful to be with y'all
each week. And I love to start off my show
with a prayer because I feel like it just gives
it that really positive energy. So today I'm going to
read the Lord's Prayer translated from Aramaic directly into English,
(01:00):
and rather than Aramaic to Greek to Latin to English,
it is a completely different translation than the one I
grew up with. So if you're just joining in whichever
way you would like, O Cosmic Birther of all radiance
and vibration, soften the ground of our being and carve
out a space within us where your presence can abide.
(01:22):
Fill us with your creativity so that we may be
empowered to bear the fruit of your mission. Let each
of our actions bear fruit in accordance with our desire.
Endow us with the wisdom to produce and share what
each being needs to grow and flourish. Untie, the tangled
threads of destiny that bind us as we release others
(01:46):
from the entanglement of past mistakes. Do not let us
be seduced by that which would divert us from our
to true purpose, but illuminate the opportunities of the present
moment for you or the ground in the fruitful vision,
the birth, the power, and the fulfillment as all is
gathered and made whole once again. And I asked this
(02:09):
for everyone listening now and everyone listening in the future,
and in the highest good of all concerned, And thank you,
and so it is, and so y'all for an amazing
treat Today we get to have Kathy O'Brien back on
for the third time. I mean, she's just been amazing
(02:30):
and just for y'all who may have missed the other
two shows. Kathy O'Brien, she's incredible. She's an internationally recognized
US government whistleblower. She's been speaking out bravely and courageously
for over thirty five years of her experience as an
MK ultra mind control slave. Her knowledge is our defense
(02:52):
against mind control and Kathy's experience at the White House
Pentagon levels empowers her to have insight of the effects
of mind control on society and how you can what
you can do to help reclaim and protect and expand
your free thought and even free yourself from trauma as well.
(03:15):
Welcome back to the show, Kathy.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Thank you. I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Oh my gosh, you are just the most delightful person,
and I'm just so excited how everybody just loves the
previous shows we did, and some of them were like,
oh my goodness. The television is patented as a emitting
an electronic field that can affect your nervous system and
(03:45):
viewers and induce certain emotional states and alter your behavior.
So how many people know TV is a mind control device? Yeah,
it's really amazing. But Kathy, we got so many questions
from our listeners in the last two shows. I have
I don't know two or three pages of them here,
(04:08):
and I thought we would try to make our way
through it and see, if you know, we could answer
some of our I have some of the most brilliant
listeners and they're so kind and it's really refreshing when
you get to connect with people all over the world
in such a way. But one of the things that
(04:31):
I think is so important is the fact that you
having been through all the just incredibly horrendous trauma that
you were in for the first thirty years of your life,
the fact that you've been able to I really believe
you've been able to heal yourself and become like one
(04:52):
of the most kind people I've ever talked to. But
also it feels like to me that you've been able
to let go and release a lot of the anger.
I don't ever hear any anger in your voice. And
you know, I know people have a lot of trauma
in their lives. We all have trauma in our lives
(05:13):
in some way, shape or form. It may not have
been quite as horrific as yours, but you know, we're
all trying to heal and so when we focus on
certain things. I know, you did a recent blog the
other day that was so good, and it's on how
to not come out as a victim. So how do
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you let go of that trauma and drop the anger
and then stop coming from a victim mode. I think
that is something that I myself have struggled with after
certain situations.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, it's it's quite a difficulty that people face today.
There's so many survivors that are emerging varying levels of
abuse and control, whether it's MK ultra mind control, satanic
ritual abuse, domestic abuse, whatever it might be. You know,
the people have endured a lot of trauma and they're
(06:14):
wanting to be able to heal. But for generations now, Nancy,
information on our mind, brain function, our resiliency of body,
mind and spirit, all the capabilities that we've been blessed
with for so long have been suppressed under national security.
That's so people can be conditioned to look outside themselves
(06:37):
to big government, big pharma, big tech, big cultical religion
to tell them how to live their lives, and worse,
to look around society, a society that's been deliberately made
ignorant and dumbed down to try to get help from them,
and they don't know how to help. They don't know
(06:58):
how to help themselves, let alone somebody else. So this
information on our healing resiliency is very important to get
back into society. And I'm very fortunate to have been
able to heal with that information because it's our birthright information.
This is information we all need to know to realize
(07:19):
that we don't have to be victims. Our whole life,
our system, our medical system, our mental health system, society
is all conditioned to perpetuate a victim mentality because that's
what the globalist agenda is wanting in order to keep
us compliant and doing exactly what they say. Well, we
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need our free thought, we need our brilliant minds and lives.
We need our resiliency that we've been blessed with all
along to resurface, and it takes remembering who we are
and why we're here. So haven't healed from within? Is
what has allowed me to move forward in light of
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truth and joy, out of love for humanity, out of
determination to share this information to remind everyone that it's
within us to heal. That is a much more powerful
motivation than being hateful and bitter and negative towards my abusers.
That's their vibration. They can't have any more of that.
For me. I'm going to live the love I am.
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I'm going to bring truth to light so others can
be empowered to heal from within themselves too, Because when
survivors are looking for help and look outside themselves, they're
going to be met with ignorance. They're going to be
met with attitudes that only perpetuate that victim mentality, and
that's not fair. They need to realize their answers are within,
(08:49):
they don't need to look outside themselves anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
That's so beautiful. Thank you. And you know when you
are saying that, I know one of the TV shows
or move that they would have you watch as part
of your mind control programming was The Wizard of Oz
And you know, at the end she tells her, You've
always been able to go home. You just didn't realize
(09:13):
you had it in you, right, Yeah, it's kind of
like the Truman Show, like Truman. I know, doctor Lee Merritt,
she you know, she thinks we're all living in the
Truman Show, and she may be very well, right.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah, Well, we have so much resiliency and so much
capacity for healing. And I would encourage everyone to check
out the overcoming victim Mentality that I just posted on
my website at trance dashformation dot com t r A
n ce pyphonformation dot com. People need that information and
(09:54):
I see it more and more where there's so much infighting,
you know, would survive get together and they're all fighting,
and it's because they're voicing their trauma and everybody's you know,
sharing their programming instead of their freedom. And that freedom
comes in silence. It comes through picking up that pen
(10:14):
and paper and journaling and taking that that journey back
to health yourself, because it's within us all to have
that healing, that personal journey no one else. We don't
need any more outside input. We need to be able
to go within, align with the divine within, and reclaim
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our birthright to live in life that it was intended
to be.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
That is that's beautiful, thank you. So we're gonna just
start in with some of these questions. And first we
have Wesley who's asking, uh, where he can listen to
our shows that we did before, and you can listen
to him on W four c Y Radio or they
upload him to my podcast channel on iHeart Radio and
(11:01):
it's Organic Healthy Lifestyle Podcasts. And we have both of
the shows that Kathy was on very recently, so you
can just scroll back through the shows. But in one
of the shows before Kathy, Jason was asking, is there
a way to dump the mind of these unwanted like
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mind control thoughts that have been forced into our brain
or leaked into our brain.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
What do you think, absolutely same thing. Pick up that
pen and paper and write it out. Because when you
the very active move and a pen activates the logic
critical analysis part of the brain. It opens neuron pathways
in the brain. My control shots them down, awareness opens
(11:51):
them up. And by writing with a pen on paper,
typing does not do the same brain thing. By moving
that pen and writing it out or even drawing it
out is effective. But to actually move that pen it
transfers programmed information emotionally incomprehensible trauma, fear, any repetitive media, narrative,
(12:17):
any social conditioning, anything that you feel is not in
harmony with your life's purpose. Write it out, get it
out of your brain, clean house, clean that brain out,
and write that information out, literally write it out, and
then when you see it on paper, you consciously deal
(12:37):
with it. And then that way you don't have it
in your brain cluttering up space anymore. It frees your
mind to advance forward in the directions that you choose.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Oh, I love that. That is so great. And something
I've learned over the years is that when we have
a thought, it triggers certain pathways in the brain and
builds on that. And so the more you think of something,
the more stronger that gets. And if it's a negative
or from a past trauma, that's really big. And so
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you have to really push your way into new experiences
and new thoughts in order to build new pathways to
offset the old trauma. So what do you think about that?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Kathy, Absolutely that is in PTSD Time to Heal has
posted on my website. Those are the healing methods that
Mark taught me. That's our birthright information that was buried
under national security and I could release it. I'm not
bound by laws of edition. It was my experience to
heal with it. So I'm sharing it with everyone so
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that we can remember that we have these amazing capacities
and resiliencies within us and we're able to overcome any
negative drivers so that we can choose our path forward.
And it's a great brain exercise to choose our thoughts.
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It's not always easy to do. It's like pushing a
river or used to just going with the flow. But
if we push that river and think in new ways
and open new new pathways, we're able to stop the
entrenchment of those negative thoughts. It could be a negative
thought that we were conditioned with from childhood, that we're
(14:28):
no good or we're worthless or whatever, And you can
write that out, get it out of your brain, and
reclaim that space for yourself. Choose thoughts going forward. What
really is your free will choice? What's in harmony with
your life's purpose. That's the way to make a decision
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is to know what's in harmony with love, what you're
choosing true to soul rather than following nagging, you know,
undermining man that has subliminally slipped into our subconscious.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
So here's the question for you, Kathy, about like our
subconscious and how our mind has an amazing or our
body has an amazing ability to try to protect us
from these traumas. So it like creates different personalities or
different things depending on you know, what trauma's being subjected
to at the time. And I have a friend who
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has like blackouts about their childhood, like they can't remember
almost anything, and then they also have like a scar
on their on their forehead, and you know, she has
just always wondered, you know, what is it I've blocked out?
Is there a way that you would know that she
(15:50):
could possibly open that part of her mind up.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Absolutely, and those are some more tips and PTSD time
to heal that are easy to self apply because they're
natural and they give us the ability to access our
own subconscious mind, to be able to access repress memory
and bring it to conscious thoughts so it can be
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dealt with instead of leaving it there to undermine our
everyday activities. So it's a matter of picking up that
pen and paper. There's other ways to do it too,
like making a collage can reveal very much the subconscious mind.
There's different things that we do and say every day
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that indicate that something is going on down there that
needs to be that needs to be consciously dealt with.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Ye know, this is such an interesting kind of the
whole thing to look into because there's just so many
pathways you can go down, and Heaven in our chat
room is asking this is cause d I D. I
don't even know what d I D is. D You
know what that is.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Absolutely, it's the proper term for repressed memory. It's called
dissociative identity disorder. It's the term that came into being
in the early nineties to replace the old term of
multiple personality disorder because compartmentalization of memory is a compartmentalization
(17:28):
of aspects of one personality that come, you know, exhibit
at different times according to being triggered, you know, whether
it's angry or you know, or complacent or whatever. That
life trauma created that kind of response mechanism. But multiple
personalities is a misnomer because it's just one personality that's
(17:52):
been shattered and compartmentalized. So dissociative identity disorder is a
more action you're it terminology that describes what happens when
trauma occurs in the neuron pathways and the brain shut
down or around that trauma and repress it deep into
the subconscious so the rest of the mind can develop
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and function normally. If it's not addressed, though, that repressed
memory will start undermining our everyday actions. The past starts
intruding on the present, and it makes us make bad decisions.
Sometimes we've had abuse in childhood that's not dealt with
and is only repressed. We haven't acknowledged it yet or
(18:38):
brought it to mind. That can influence our choice of
mate in the future, one that we might gravitate to
someone who's abusive because the brain is trying to remember
what had happened, and it will gravitate towards that what
they're used to, that familiarity, whatever, that compartmentalization of memory
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is used to, and it will gravitate to that trauma.
So it can end up in really bad relationships. That
can cause problems in careers. It can undermine everything less
it's consciously dealt with. We don't need to be dissociative
of what happened. We need to deal with it full
(19:25):
on and again PTSD Time to Heal shows us how
it's very simple. It's our birthright.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Well, I'll tell you your books are fabulous, and some
member a little bit harder to get through than others
because they're very traumatic. But for everyone listening out there,
I highly recommend all of Kathy O'Brien's books, and they
can find a lot. They can find all of this
on your website right treants dashformation dot com.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yes, and they can find my books on audible too.
I read them myself to preserve the integrity of them.
Information Transformation of America is my nineteen ninety five testimony
for Congress that was censored under national security. Every bit
of it's true, but it is traumatic. It's not intended
for the public access denied for reasons. The National Security
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tells Marx in my journey through the corrupted justice system,
the corrupted so called child Protective services to help my
daughter Kelly, who is medically kidnapped and thrust into that
corrupt system, So that one is like a road map
into where the riots of corruption are planted throughout our
(20:38):
system today, so that parents can safely navigate through it
all for the safety and well being of their children.
And then, of course PTSD Time to Heal, which is
simple little workbook, very thin, it's easy to self apply,
and it's our birthright reminder that we all can heal.
(20:58):
These are the methods I use for healing that we
all can use. When we heal from within, we can't
be triggered anymore. We get to live freely. We get
to live the love we are and live our life's
purpose the way it was intended. So I'd recommend yeah,
everyone can look into those into those books according to
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which one or which ones fit their need and fit
their their learning path.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
So Kevin's asking which which book should he start with
if he wants to know more about the d I
D information, Would that be the the PTSD book.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I would look into that to understand the BA, the
mind brain function, and how easy it is for us
to heal when we have the knowledge that is our
defense against mind control and our birthright information for healing.
So yeah, I would recommend that. It's so simple it
could just sit down and you know, go through that
(21:58):
in an evening. Of course, it's a little workbook to
be applied, but to read through it gives a very
good understanding of the brain function and how compartmentalization occurs
and how it can be freed. And then from there,
I would definitely recommend access denied for reasons in national security,
(22:20):
because it's a testament to the human spirit and the
power of love and provides deep information on mind control,
how it's being used on society today in the education
system and even through the medical system to fund big
pharma instead of empower our healing. So yeah, I would
(22:44):
recommend definitely that order.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Thanks. Yeah, I mean I think the pharmaceutical industry is
just tied in with all of this. I think it's
part of their program to control it in poison it.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Yeah, it is there at the top, there, the very top,
follow the money because the money will lead right to
the puppet masters at the top, and they go straight
to Big Pharma, who they even own the media. You know,
look look at all the ads. They're the ones who
are are funding it. Then consider that Big Pharma is
(23:16):
the one who owns the education system that teaches the doctors,
and it doctrinates them to follow Big Pharma's protocol for
treatment rather than healing. You know, So when we start
looking at the top of it, yeah, big farmer right there,
right there at the top. They need to they need
to be brought down. And it's easy for us to do.
(23:38):
We can defund them by simply not buying into their
nonsense anymore.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Kathy, as you were recovering, and now that you, I
feel like you've really recovered. And but do you still
get triggered by certain trigger words? And how can people
know what their trigger word is and how they can
possibly heal from getting triggered by them?
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Again, Well, the triggers would be indigenous to certain traumas.
And you know, I think everybody had the program repetitive
media narrative to mask up social distance, get the injection.
And now still when we hear mask up, you know,
(24:25):
it's you know, it gets that little catch and that's
that's an example of a trigger. So those are things
like another trigger would be when I say nine to
one one. You know, the image that we see in
our mind instantly is a plane flying into the tower.
Whether that was real, whether that was not, the fact
is that was what the media showed us repetitively, and
(24:48):
it programmed are subconscious. So when we hear nine one one,
we see the plane flying into the tower. So those
are those are examples of trigger, and it's what catches
our attention and just you know, dominates our mind in
that moment. Those can be written out and dealt with accordingly.
(25:12):
I don't trigger anymore because I've written them out. I
do know what that kind of thing is. So when
I hear a repetition, I don't buy into it. Again.
Knowledge is our defense against mind control, and I've got
that inside knowledge. When I see horrible images of children
(25:36):
being you know, traffic is sexually assaulted. When I see
images the bloody images that we have seen in the
media for especially during the Biden administration, My gosh I
saw we saw is satanic blood trauma. But to see
those things as not healthy and even though the trigger
(25:58):
is diffused. Understanding that that is not healthy takes a
conscious acknowledgement of choosing to not allow that to influence
the brain, and that can get exhausting in itself. So
sometimes it's just better to shut off the devices, get
away from that stuff, take a break, give your brain
(26:21):
a break from having to counter triggers all the time
by getting out in nature and you know, breathing in
the air, doing something natural, and give your brain a
nice break from that nonsense.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Oh so that's good advice, and I so agree. And
it made me think of the fake COVID S pandemic
that they created and how they put that computer generated
proton or spike protein looking thing that they have actually
(26:57):
never actually isolated ever in the history of the world.
How they put that everywhere along with their like talking points,
and I think doctor Tenpenny told me that they put
out something crazy like six billion you know mind control,
like uh, you know words that you know, like the
(27:19):
mask and the you know you trust in the science,
all all of these different So I think the whole
world is having to heal from that trauma, don't you think.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Kathy, Absolutely they are, and that's why, you know, I say,
we're all affected by mind control because mk Ultra is
exactly the tool being used for a globalist life society
agenda and the the keys for that, the way that
they're using it. Once we understand it, it's like understanding
(27:53):
a magic trick. It loses, it loses, it breaks the spell.
You know, it doesn't work anymore. So understanding it is
very important so that we don't ever comply with that
kind of mind control ever. Again.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
You know, it's interesting. I was listening to someone the
other day talk about English and how English was like
a spell language, like you know, it doesn't have the
verbs in the beginning of the sentence like they do
in most languages, and that you know, a lot of
the different things that that we grow up saying in
(28:32):
English in many ways sound like something different, like the
word parents, are you a pair that rents because you
you know, signed over your child when they were born
to the state, you know, with a birth certificate, And
the word humanity and Black Law Dictionary actually means monsters,
(28:55):
and and this person was talking about, you know, like
when we go into grocery store, when we go look
at any kind of advertising, they use these special trigger
words to you know, create urgency or confusion or make
you feel less, and then they of course have the
remedy or the opportunity. And have you gotten really good
(29:18):
at just you know, seeing through all that and going hmm,
they're using a trigger word on me here.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Oh, absolutely absolutely. Wordplay is something that they always do
and and twist words to uh, to fit their agenda
without conscious mind filter, the subconscious just takes information in
without any ability to consciously comprehend question or reason. They
(29:49):
can't even applicably, the subconscious can't even apply that kind
of programmed information. There's no creative application on that level.
It's just information in So to use a subliminal on people,
a word that has more meanings than what it sounds like,
(30:11):
has a subconscious effect, especially if the conscious mind is distracted,
you know, So even something as transparent as transparent, all
of a sudden, you know, it takes on new meaning.
I play with words all the time, like perpetrators of abuse,
(30:33):
you know, the perpetrators of mind control. They are traders.
They're traders of the whole human race. So I play
with words, and I sometimes I turn them around to
the most positive ever, like solution spelling. It with an
soul sole solution, because if we're going to be thinking
in terms of solutions, it needs to be in harmony
(30:55):
with love. It needs to be in harmony with purpose.
It needs to be in harmony with our soul. It
doesn't need to be vengeance, it doesn't need to be hatred.
That's the vibration that's expected from us. We need to
keep our vibration high and come up with soullutions so
when we understand that kind of wordplay, we can use
(31:15):
it to our advantage and actually just have fun with it.
I've got a poetry book about to come out, and
my poetry is written with double and triple meaning words
all the time, because that's the language of the subconscious
that I was manipulated by for so long, and I
turned it around to use it for positive, to use
(31:37):
it for good, and to bring it to awareness of
people on how those words are twisted, manipulated to inspire
us and to action that they are wanting us to take. So,
you know, when we understand that and start looking at
the way our subconscious interprets versus high, our conscious mind interprets,
(32:02):
you know, we got to keep that conscious mind filter
on there and realize that our subconscious is very suggestible,
very vulnerable, and just takes anything in and those words
can then be twisted and used in against us.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Well, I am so excited about your poetry book. That
sounds amazing. I get a wait to read it. And
I will say, your audible audio books and your reading
it is beautiful and it made all the difference in
the world for me because I actually listen to the
Transformation Book and it was really empower much more powerful,
(32:49):
I believe because you were reading it.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Oh yeah, I appreciate that, and I just think it's
it's important for preserving the integrity of information and being
able to find the most palatable way of receiving information
because you know, again, Trance was written for Congress. It
was all documented testimony, every word, and it was validated
(33:14):
by clean members of intelligence and Secret service and law enforcement.
And it's harsh. It's harsh information. Some of us are
needing to deal with our own traumas before reading that,
you know what I mean. We all need to know
our own truth in order to recognize truth in others anyway,
(33:36):
So we all need to work on ourselves first, and
I think PTSD time to heal is the absolute easiest
way to do that.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
So for this show, Kathy tell everyone one more time
what it is you do to heal that trauma. So
you have a trauma that pops in your head and
you're like struggling with it and you can't sleep, what
would you recommend.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
I'm picking up the pen and paper and writing it out.
You know, this can even work for our PTSD's military
veterans who need to stop that war within and have
horrible night terrors. They can keep a notebook in pen
right beside the bed, and if they wake up with
the night terrors, make a note of it and it
will shut off that alarm system. It will shut off
(34:26):
that intrusion. It will shut off the past from intruding
on the present, and then they can go back into peaceful,
restless sleep. It's a way of reclaiming control over our
own minds and everyday life. If you're going along and
you have a flash from the past for whatever reason
(34:47):
that is dominating your thoughts, just make a note of
it and it will shut off that alarm. It won't
be intruding anymore. You can go on about your life
and then sit down and cut off all devices and
in quiet, write it out in detail, How did you
get there? Where did you go after? You know, just
(35:07):
write out the whole thing, and that will bridge the
neuuron pathways in the brain and it will open them
up so that it's not, you know, just compartmentalized anymore.
And that way it can't trigger and invade your space
when you're doing something else, you know. And it's just
(35:28):
a really good way to be able to organize and
take control of our own minds.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Thank you so much for that, And so so for
someone who has gone through some trauma in their life
and let's say they feel unworthy, right and they find
themselves self sabotaging themselves in various ways throughout their life,
and they just want to go, why did I do that?
(35:54):
Do you have any device for them?
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Yeah? Same thing? Pick up that pat and pay paper.
Who told you that? Who said that? Whose voice do
you hear? When? When that that intrudes? And learn to
make good decisions Sometimes if it's not present enough to
even recognize that it's the subconscious intruding. Then if you're
(36:21):
in a situation where you're going into a new career
or a new workspace and you want to make sure
this time it's not undermine. Then pick up a pen
and paper and make a list. Make a list of
the positive, make a list of the negative, Make a
list of what you can do in order to accomplish
your goal. You know, just making little lists sometimes helps
(36:44):
us to stay focused and on track in the direction
that we consciously choose, because when we're writing, we're consciously choosing.
When we're just you know, giving into Oh I'm no good,
I'm no good. You know, never say that because the
words have power, and you're giving power to an old program.
(37:07):
So don't voice it. Write it out and determine who
told you that, where you learn that, and then what
you can do about it. What is your choice going forward?
Why should you be free of that? What is it
you're wanting to accomplish? All these things by using a
pen and paper brings them into conscious self control.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
So I have a question for you, Kathy. In the past,
with some of my spiritual training and kind of woo
woo stuff that I've investigated throughout my life, trying to
figure out what is true and what is it true?
In some of them, they say that if you have
a negative thought come in your head or something that
(37:54):
you you know, had an old trauma and that you
know comes you know, bursting into your mintier mindal scene
and they say, if you can catch it, you say,
I no longer need you and cancel, cancel, cancel, Or
if you say something that you probably shouldn't have said
that you don't want to like be you know, putting
(38:16):
something harsh out there into your own mind by you know,
repeating something negative. What because I know you've said the
three times, saying it three times like cancel, cancel, cancel,
saying it three times is in mind control program. So
you know, what do you think about that advice? And
(38:37):
would you you know, support that or or or think
you know a different way is much much better.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
I definitely, you know, go back to the writing again,
because that takes it right out of the subconscious, whereas
just saying cancel, cancel, cancel is a choice of the moment.
It's a band aid instead of uprooting the problems. So
you know, let's let's get to the to the base
cause of it, and that would It's also like if
(39:05):
somebody has an addiction and they go to a hypnotist
and the hypnotist tells them, you know, programs them not
to have that addiction. Then they will develop a different addiction,
or there will be an unrest, or there will be
something else. There'll be illness could even result because the
hypnosis is a intrusive, invasive way of attempting to deal
(39:34):
with something that only actually makes it worse because it
doesn't uproot the causation. We've got to uproot that causation
in order to effectively stop it. We can't just band
aid over it and go on because it's going to
pop up somewhere else or it's going to manifest through
physical illness. So we always need to uproot, get to
(39:58):
the cause of the matter, and write it out.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah, Kathy, I think back on when Mark just had
first rescued you and your daughter, and you were, I
don't know, on that journey of realizing they're really nice
people in the world and that you know, he's telling
you you can heal, or there's some you know, real
(40:23):
struggles and trying to find the fortitude in your inner
strength to even write down some of the most traumatic things.
I mean, it just seems like it's just so tough
to sometimes look at, you know, traumas that are in
your life and sometimes they are just so horrific. It
(40:46):
just seems like you have to like really gear up
all your strength to handle it emotionally.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Yeah, definitely that. When my daughter Kelly was thrust into
the corrupt system that I saw being set up as
a catch in that operation, it was absolutely horrifying. And
people were ignorant. They didn't know what mind control was,
they didn't know what she had been through. And I
was doing everything I could to raise awareness for her.
(41:16):
And the whole thing is it is it? Especially when
at first unfolded, I was devastated and I cried and
cried and cried, and I front found out I was
only drowning in my tears. I wasn't helping my daughter
and her circumstance at all. And Mark told me then,
he said, you know, you got to take the negative
energy of this and turn it into a positive that
(41:39):
empowers you. Need to use this energy like a martial
artist would, you know, and turn it around and make
it be the energy that carries you forward in a
productive way. So that was a really good lesson for me,
knowing that I could do channel that energy into love,
(42:02):
because love is the most powerful force in the universe
and it was love for my daughter, that it was
all about anyway, So I channeled it into that aspect.
He also told me as I was writing up my memory,
I told him, I said, I can't live with myself
after what I did under mind control, not being able
to protect my own daughter, the plan for humanity, that
(42:26):
I can't live with us. And he told me, he said,
you're not responsible for what you were tort you under
mind control. Your abusers are responsible for that and they
need to be held accountable for those actions. But now
that you are aware, you are responsible for all your
actions going forward. So that just completely freed me from
(42:48):
the drag of what was imposed on me to realize
that what happens to us isn't who we are. Who
we are is within and it's divinely protected, and we
can access that and live that and use the knowledge
gained the energy from all of that to be turned
into a positive to propel forward faster and harder and
(43:11):
further than ever before. Again, love is the most powerful
force in the universe, so to be able to turn
that around is very empowering. It's something really that everyone needs.
After mind control. Mass is a virus because so many
people complied with media's repetitive narrative, and they're seeing the
devastating results of having masked up their children and limited
(43:35):
oxygen to their brain. They see the devastating effects of
the injection. People are having to deal with guilt and
grief and really that we need to write it all
out and understand we're not responsible for what we're programmed
to do under mind control. Our abusers are those puppet
masters are big pharma, big tech, big government. They are
(44:01):
responsible for what we were programmed to do. But now
that we're aware of that, we are responsible for all
our actions going forward. We need to be effective of
protecting our children and make sure that we never comply again.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Oh bravo girl, You're a glorious force in this world
going towards peace, and I just want to envision it
always in peace. I want to know what you think of,
oh rebel our sound gingineer is. So we have like
four minutes, but I'd love to know, just really quick
and briefly what you think of AI.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
Oh ay I. Well, artificial intelligence is a linear, flat
thinking form of thought, just like criminal minds are flat thinking.
And Mark always told me wisdom. Oh thanks for criminal
minds every time wisdom outthinks artificial intelligence, and wisdom is
(45:03):
our birthright. When we live the love we are, gather
the strength of the human spirit, have our free thought,
free will, soul expression. With our sole expression comes discernment
of truth, comes our wisdom, the height, the depth, the strength.
We have it all so I have no fear of
(45:25):
artificial intelligence. We just need to empower people to remember
who they are, why they're here, live the love they are,
and outthink criminals and artificial intelligence and light of our wisdom.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Well, that's so beautiful. And I have to admit I'm
not a big fan of a I know we.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Don't need to be it's but we don't have to
be afraid of it either, and limit it everywhere we can.
You know they're wanting to write every note for me
and every email. No I don't, I don't. I don't
know that that is no we can limit that. Some
people gravitate more towards it. We have a choice, make
(46:07):
a healthy one. Choose nature, Choose to align with the
divine within. Choose our birthright to live love and peace
and harmony, to be healthy, to eat healthy, to make
healthy choices in our lives. Making healthy choices means no, AI.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Well, I will agree with you. I don't use it
at all, and I'm not sure I will be using
it in the future. But I know that the Globalist
program did. I'm not sure I want it telling me anything.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Right, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
So, Kathy, we have like well about one minute left,
and if you can just share maybe a parting thought
and for everyone listening out there, it's Kathy O'Brien. Our
website is Trance t r a n C E dash
Formation f O R M A t I O n
(47:08):
dot com and she just has a wonderful blog. She
has all these great interviews that you will just love.
And Kathy, I'm just so honored to have you on
the show again and I just feel very blessed that
you've been able to share your brilliance with all of
our I do feel like I have some really incredibly
(47:28):
amazing listeners on my show, and so thank you, so much.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Thank you. I'm sure you've got great listeners because you're
just such a powerful energy yourself. You're such a bright light, Nanta.
I always love doing that. These conversations with you and
your questions are are brilliant. Keep living the loveyard. Keep
shining that light because you're influencing money. I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Oh well, well, you're my inspiration girl. You're like this
writing great beacon. You're a lighthouse in the world.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
And you're just so gracious to have shared your abilities
for everyone to heal themselves from all our traumas, because
I don't think there's a person on the planet that
and that's some kind of trauma in.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Their life, right right. Oh, we're all just grateful. Thank
you so much for joining us again today. And just
how about just a really quick parting thought for our listeners.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
I just encourage everyone to remember who they are, why
they're here, to start living the love they are. It's
our victory, it's our time.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
We got this, Yes we do. Everybody stands strong and
read all the Kathy's books. Look forward to talking to
y'all next week.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
If it is to dist
Speaker 4 (49:10):
Just havings to know some
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