April 24, 2024 • 54 mins
42-year-old Peruvian, Business Consultant and Entrepreneur, Martin Guerra, AKA Martin Sandsnow, founded the company, Sandboarding Peru. In 2014, he co-founded the "International Sandboarding and Sandski Association" with the mission of promoting and developing Sandboarding and Sandskiing internationally.
The next big event will be the European Sandboarding Championship held in Germany from July 11 - July 14.
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Welcome to outdoors people with me.Cw Getz and her Maya mar Zaki.
Good evening. It's Wednesday, Apriltwenty fourth, twenty twenty four.
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We have a chili chili chilli fiftyeight degrees fahnheight. But shelly uh,
fifteen degrees celsius temperature here in northcentral Illinois. What you got down there
in Brazil? May well, nice, beautiful and warm like Colwis with twenty
five degrees celshoes and it means foryou guys in United States seven to seven
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degrees fahrenheit. So jealous, Sojust we're supposed to get like eighty degrees
I think Saturday, I think itis heavier Sunday. So I'm looking forward
to that. Man, I'm lookingforward to that. Well, you won't
be on fro the bikini mowing mylawn, you know how that goes and
looking like the Amazon jungle right now, so very very long, Hey,
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congratulate me. I turned thirty nineyears old yesterday. Yeah, just saying
that, that's so cool you areolder. Yeah, that's funny, that's
aid it is. I'm enjoying this. I'm gonna milk this one, you
know. But it was it.I actually told the server. We my
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cousin Gary and I went out lastnight for dinner. I call it.
We call it supper here slepper herein the country, you know. And
my dad went with us, andthe server, who was all of eighteen
years old, I told her myreal age and she goes, no way,
you don't look at your age.And I'm like, wow, just
made my night, Thank you somuch, dear. But then but then
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in about a moment later, shetold us her mom was in a bandon
because Gary asked, well, hey, you know, what's your last what's
your name? And she told herand I know, and we said,
well, you know the band vanHalen then right, you know, and
she said no, she has noclue. At that moment, I felt
older than Moses. Oh my gosh, No, he don't see old because
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she is in another world. She'sleaving in a shoe box, and she
doesn't knowing music and artists in general. I know, I know when Helen
well you know, you know,yeah. I told Mary Ell that today
and the phone and she said,you know, yeah, because oh wow,
I don't know. But she's acharming young lady. Just that just
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made me feel old. So whatare you gonna do? Oh yeah,
yeah, thirty nine. Well,anything especially happening, anything in Brazil that
you'd like to, you know,bring to our attention, yes, of
course. Always such an amazing place, right, so much to see and
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you know, uh so the lastweekend I went to a mountain trip because
the mountain season just started nice andwe went to the first national park in
Brazil and it is so so beautiful, so beautiful. And talking about that,
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by the way, guys, uh, if you want to travel to
Brazil and you know how and whereto go, just let me know because
I just started business to bring peopleto Brazil. So whatever you like to
do, like outdoors or I don'tknow, like restaurants. We have the
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best places. And if you don'tknow how to even start, message me
and I will show Brazil. Throwmy eyes and what's the name of this
new company that you this adventure companyBrazil Outdoor an Adventure. There you go,
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man and excellent. Yeah, thereyou go. The acronym Boa.
What a cool. I love thewhole and impart of is it's means like
good cool. So I love it. There you go. I love it.
That's very clever. And you do. I mean it's all sports.
I mean you anything, kayaking,canoeing, climbing, any thing, anything,
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So yeah, I mean we haveeverything here and we have like the
best places to do all types ofoutdoors sports and indoor as well, but
outdoors but much better. Right,So we have everything. So whatever you
are looking for for your next adventurein Brazil, just let them know I'm
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here and they can find you whereon Instagram at yeah am I at or
my personal account or the new accountsBrazil Outdoor Adventure. There you go,
there you go. We've successfully gotthat plug in there. I wanted to
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do that before I forgot very good. That's nice. Yeah, well,
let's meet tonight's guest, shall weforty two year old Peruvian business consultants and
entrepreneur Martin Guerre aka Martin sandsnow nowmakes his home in Saint Gallin, Switzerland.
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In twenty twelve, Martin founded thecompany Sandboarding Peru with the idea of
professionalizing not only the sport of boardingon the sand, but also to develop
the professional concept of the name sandboarding. In twenty fourteen, he co founded
the International Sandboarding and Sanski Association withthe mission of promoting and developing sandboarding and
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sand sea sand skiing internationally. Thenext big event will be the European Sandboarding
Championship held in Germany from July elevenththrough July fourteenth. Martin is currently working
on several projects that involve sand dunes, as well as continuing efforts towards strengthening
bilateral relations between two regions each ondifferent continents. Howny kill, did you
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know about sanboarding in santasy? Yes, look like snowboarding and sea but on
the Sunday. My name is MartinGerra. I am from Peru, but
I live in Switzerland and I willbe very very happy to tell you more
home this sport, Shane, mylife came. This amazing sport is growing
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around the world in many countries,community competitions. The most important is home.
This sport is growing in the streetto change more life for the future
generation who is involving to grow inmore professional this sport. So if you
want to know more about this sport, this news friend son snow, I
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will be very happy to tell youmore about that. And with Fad Welcome
to the show, Martin, Hello, everybody, are you doing it?
Welcome? I love those videos?So cool? Yeah, absolutely absolutely.
You're coming to us tonight from Switzerland, am I right? Switzerland? Not
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Paral, but Switzerland. Yeah.And in Switzerland now, yeah. And
in two weeks I go to Peru. Oh, very cool, very cool.
That's cool. I'm kind of jealous. I want to go so bad
Peru and it is so close by, so I hope I can make it
as soon as possible. But well, first let's have you explain the difference
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between sandboarding and sand skiing. Okay, Fierst, thank you for the invitation.
The idea is to to have inour mind for this interview. The
idea is to to to understand therelation between snowboarding and ski. Imagine snowboarding
and ski. That is the bigdifference is the surface sand dunes and a
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snow mountain, so a snowboard sunboording. We're right with the somebour like this,
that is someboard, that's it snowboard, but it is the same,
only the surface we need to totry to thin is another environment. Now,
yeah, that is the difference.Ski is like a board for two
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for two feet in your in yourlegs, but some boarding is like snowboarding.
Yeah, is it it feels different? I'm sure. I mean,
it's just not the same as beingon snow snow being a little I don't
know, or is it Is itabout the same? Is it similar feeling
snow between snow snow, I'm sureyou get you get dirtier, for sure,
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kid, is one more slick thanthe other? Martin? Yeah,
someboard in Yeah, that is becausehome star that trends and snow because it's
very similar. People who want totry the experience on snowboarding and ski on
the sand dunes, they can't tryin one day with the saints mythology or
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the saying technical, but with professionalpeople, local people who want to give
you to introduce to the sport ismore easy. For example, my first
time was in the snow was veryeasy, not easy, but were simple.
That was so much difficult than otherpeople who try snowboarding the first time.
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Yeah, you know it's less thantwo years ago. I'd never even
heard of sandboarding or sand skiing.You know, how did how and when
did you get into each one ofthese? Yeah? I like adventure sport
adventure trips. So in twenty twothousand and seven, I take that decision
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to travel outside of because I amfrom Lima and in this situation was a
little chaotic life, kaotic situation inmy life, and I want to go
out to to take like a medicinewith adventure sport or adventure trip. So
that is the reason. Because Itraveled four hours to the south to to
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to Lima. I was looking ininternet what is possible to do? And
I found the sport on the boardwriting on the duns, I don't want,
I don't need, What's what isthat? So only I tried to
go to the place and to knowexactly what is this sport and that's it
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home start my adventure with sun boarding. I tried to go to this place
every weekend, but that was notpossible because I was in no augod situation
of my life. But after toto know that subboording more people when I
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go back to Lima from my studyof my world, that people asking me
a Martin, when we can gowith you to try to leave this experience
that's his home. I started togo more frequent to to is the place
for hours from the so of Lima, so that is home. Start my
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lifestyle with somebourding. That's a greatstory. Yeah, that's very cool.
I saw that you're in Brazil becausewe have up north and down the south
and front of the beach, butI really didn't know that it was like
a real sport and a big thing. I really thought that it was just
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you know, like a tourism thingto have fun. So that's cool.
See like the sports growing and becomingsuch a big thing, like you were
going to German Now that's very Whattype of boards were you using when you
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first started? Yeah, that isinteresting an important question for for for me
in heavy because it's like to goback to the for my history home.
I started the sport because I haveunlucky because I started with writing with a
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table like a simple table with thestraps, nafee professional. That is home.
I understand homeworld with home is thesport now because we are using like
snowboarding with technology, different size,different shape of snowboard or some boards,
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and that's its home. Komes playedto the future generation what opportunities they have
now exactly now to try to growin the sport more professional or try to
use the sport to shage life too. I write with a table with a
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table with an ironing board, mayberight, I said, It was kind
of like like with maybe with anironing board. You're going down right?
Yeah, yeah, I'm very veryfun now, yeah, it's really Yeah.
My dream before when I started tolearn the sport, my dream was
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to have this board, a simpleboard with the start with the straps,
and this board was maybe the costwas twenty five dollars yeah, and this
time was a little not so much, but for my situation was so much.
Well, how do these standboards differentnow from uh, you know,
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the sand boards? How do theydiffer from snowboards? I should say?
And how the you know, dosandboards wear out quickly? Since like sand
is abrasive or or is it not? What I would think yeah. For
example, just I have here asnowboard. Oh cool, this is a
snowboard, real snowboard. When peoplebring props to the show so we can
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see exactly what we're talking about.I love this, right, Yeah,
that is a real snowboard. Iused that in Germany because in Germany is
another sound is a mineral, verybig. It's another it's not really really
very fine that the sun is snowvery small. For example, when I
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write on Germany. Yeah, seethat German snow is rough. I can
see that. Wow. Yeah,that is a snow Yeah. Sorry,
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this is the sandboard here, right, That is the sambo. That's a
that is a special material, andthat's is from Brazil. To hear tonight.
I love that his brand is fromBrazil. The shape is from Floridanapolis
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is a good friend. What's thebrand name of that board now? The
name is ayah i yah assemble myassemble. Yeah. I started to row
in the industry with him also becausehe was started to come into my my
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country for events and try to hetried to support songwriters who are going to
another special performance, to do trips, jumps, everything, and yeah.
The big difference is the material inthe base, and that's we use that.
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The material is melamina. Melamina isa material maybe years ago. This
material the people use it in thekitchen for example for the fun furniture.
So yeah, that's does this materialdo? It's possible to write more fast.
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But every time when we're riding,we are riding on the dunes.
Every time, each time we weneed to put wax. Also yeah,
okay, okay, I can see. I was going to ask you where
people can purchase sandboards and send skis, but now I know in Brazil.
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Guys come to Brazil by your words. Yeah, but where where else people
cannot find like people can find don'twine another another countries? How it works?
Yeah? Where where the people canto practice and boarding? Sure?
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Bye sandboard sorry by one. Yeah. For example in Brazil is the this
shape is very in our community isvery famous because they do a special board
for a good performance. He deliveredfor all continents for people who want to
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try. For example, the lastI was talking with him, the last
weekend, he was preparing a boardfor New Zealand for example, and the
other board for Russia. For Russia. Also depends where do you want to
practice. The sample I can giveyou some spots where to buy For example,
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I have there are chapers or storesin Chile, Brazil, Peru,
Mexico, also in USA, inOregon, in Dubai, for example,
it's a big industry in Dubai,be a good, very good store.
And also in Arabia, Soudis andAustralia too. So the idea is where
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you for example, in your case, you can you can find three three
chapers, three stores where you canbuy a board. Yeah yeah. Let
me ask you, Martin, whatare the most popular places for sandboarding in
sand skiing around the world. Well, Brazil so much. I might be
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more, but go ahead, no, Brazil is one of my favorite is
country to write because the sun isvery very special? Is that for me?
It's the sand in Brazil is themost beautiful sand to write. Only
the problem is very short, verysmall dunes. But when when you do
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a jump, you you feel likeon the snow because it's very close to
the beach. So in the coast. But the most popular region to do
some boording is South America. Ingeneral, Peru, Chile, Brazil,
Argentina are the most popular places topractice samboording, but Central America, Mexico
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for example in USA, Oregon.In Germany, for example, there is
coming the new European Sample Championship.Do buy Morocco, Spain, also in
Arabia, Saudio. Of course thereare countries for example, people don't imagine
it's possible to do some boarding becauseBolivia, for example, Bolivia have duns
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and they practice some bording too.But also for recreational, for touristic service
to wow a lot of places.Yeah right, and we didn't know and
they are around the world, mainlyhere in South America. So I'm very
glad to hear. You know,we got Oregon in the United States.
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Oregon is one of the first sunMaster. Part is that we are very
proud of Oregon with with long Bailbecause he started to build some part and
after to try to to promote topromote the samboarding around the world. Two
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cool, that's very cool. Andwhat's the International scent Boarding and Senski Association.
Yeah. After to develop the sumboardingin my country, I start to
know people from another countries with theconnection with the snow and it's very interesting
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because when I start to when Istarted to work with the Swiss embassy to
promove the culture or snowboardn ski.I started to know people from Switzerland.
Also, my wife is from Switzerlandtoo. When I arrived to Switzerland,
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I meet with all the people whoI meet in Peru and we start to
talk to promove more international the sunboardingand sky and thus was w we start
to fund the International Sandboarding and sanSky Association INTERSCENCE. You know, that's
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what's the idea that aimed to tointerstand is to promove and developed more the
sunboarding around the world. That's prettycool. Yeah, you're you're a sandboarding
consultant, uh for several major corporations, and you also have a connection between
you know, is Peru and Switzerland. Thing. Tell us about that?
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What's that all about? Yeah?Yes, now is the Yeah, five
years ago, for example, thewinter were five six years ago, the
winter were very very in Europe.For example, there were so much snow
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and the industry of snowboarding or thebrands like red Bull or other brands.
Big brands started to do to seespecial projects with the riders. So that
is I start to give my advicefor these companies to do snowboarding. But
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on the sund so I did manyproductions for televisions for brands companies, because
the riders when I start to writeon the sun, they feel very very
bad because it's not the same.And for productions, the most important is
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the time. Also, I've beento Jordania for example, Morocco round three
to Peru saproform for what production threedays to Peru round three from Switzerland to
Peru for a special production unless towrite one doom only for the special color
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of the dun We being in Perubecause they auditioned for a special clothes with
this color of the dun so andthat was very interesting. That's so cool.
You guys took it higher and likereal, that's so cool. That's
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nice to see someone involved that awayin Niceport and make that become so well
known and talking about that. Arethere scentboarding in sand schemes competitions in other
parts of the world. Yeah.I started to promote the competitions in Peru
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in my country, but just nowis coming for example European Chamber Sample Championship
in Germany. This spot is veryimportant in the community of sam Berlin because
here the people in Germany or theorganizers have the culture or snowboarding, so
that technology for the race for thefor the tracks Slalo and border cross are
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very interesting. It's very fun too. But also the in South America,
I say it is the most popularplace to do some boling. And just
now I can say Chile is growingvery very good in a good performance or
to organize events. The last weekend, for example, there was an event
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in in in Chile Peru. Iam going to Peru to try to talk
with the authorities to to try todo the next World Cup the next year.
But my trip to Peru is alsoto try to meet the people of
the community of samboarding. It's comingpeople from Brazil, from Chile, and
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I am going with people from Europeto Peru to try to talk more about
what is coming in the future forsomeboding on what we can do it,
what project is coming and what projectis possible to do together to try to
grow in more the sport in thedirection to do more professional to use that
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also for the future generation. That'sso cool, that's true. I can
see this in the Olympics. Whatdo you think, maya right? I
almost too, Yes, I'm excitedand right why not? And if you
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need someone in Brazil to try tocreate a competition here. I would be
so happy to be part of that. Now I have a those connections in
Peru and Brazils. That's cool.I really hope that you guys can make
it here in Brazil and let meknow because I am going for sure because
I want to see it in person. That's so cool. And uh,
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what are the most common injuries yousee in sand boarding and sand skin?
I am sure you hurt your skinwhen you fall though, yeah, but
like knee problems like what yeah,I'm thinking sand burns. I can see
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those. Like what do you getraspberries? We call them right? Yeah.
The big difference between the snowboarding inthe in the in the snow,
when you fall maybe you is light, very easy, but when you fall
in the sun it's sticky. No, It's very depends how fast you go.
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Who speed are you going, becausethat is very important to know where
are you practice somebody? Uh forexample, is you practice for the first
time. It's very important to havean instructor. That is the reason because
I started my company in Peru,because there isn't in this time there were
an instructor or company especially to giveinstructions for other people. But the jur
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is more. It's not frequently,but maybe when you fall maybe don't brows
nahy, but in one week maybeyou say, ah, that is because
I fall in the sun. Butin competitions, normally that clabicule, yeah
here that that is the more frashhill fraghill bonds in our body. So
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usually when you go so much speed, usually probably the clabb equal is the
most franqulity injury. So that's likeskiing. You can get some you can
get some broken bones, I canskiing. Then yeah, interesting Martin.
What a compliments? What accomplishments havecontributed to the growth and popularity of sandboarding
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and sand sand skiing? What acompliments? Accomplishments? I can say that
accomplishments have contributed to the growth ofthese two things. Yeah sorry sorry?
Can you repeat? Yeah? Sowhat what has all been done? What
accomplishments have you made? Uh thathelped this these two sports grow and be
as popular as they are. Whatkind of things have you accomplished in that
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way? Ah? I think myI can I say if some people come
to know the history of snowboarding,the snowboarding growing is only example for the
community, the people who practice,and it's very close to to For example,
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I am going to Peru just now. I am very happy to know
people from Chile, Brazil and peoplefrom Europe. Is coming with me only
because they are very interesting. Toknow more about the community and to know
more people, and that's its home. The samboarding is growing because when we
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do these events, for example,the sample work up or whatever events.
Just now I am going to doonly expeditions and inviting everybody. The reason
is to do a meeting, samplemeeting, to promove and to to have
more ideas in our community, togrow in more the sport. I think
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every writer is the most important thingsto do more in the future. So
I think in general the community ofsome boording is very small but very strong.
And it is the reason because justnow I know many many people around
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the world, and it's because probablyI do many events. I like to
do events to meet the people inone place and they are very happy to
when I amoungst events to try togo there. No, you do a
lot of work, you do alot of traveling make these things possible.
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I understand that, right, Yeah, yeah, I travel. I like
to travel. I try to travelbecause one of my passion is to try
to give back what the sport givesme to. So I want to try
to give my experience opportunities for otherpeople, other other kids or their future
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generations or jump people. For example. I have a project in Peru call
it sun Kids, and I meetkids from twelve years old and just now
after ten years. They have hisschool a company and they are instructors and
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they have a work, a workto give opportunity to other people. So
yeah, very cool, that's socool. Yes, you you have accomplished
lots for make sandboard in Sanski growin the world, around the world.
So that's very cul And now themost important question on are you ready?
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He's always ready for photos? Ilove get to do these notes and nobody
sees us, but we have this, you know, behind the scenes.
Here text She's always ready for photos. It says, oh, I love
it, and are you ready?One, I want to see the pictures.
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Let's see photos. There we gothe sand rock stars. Guys that
it looks pretty cool. I likethis. I like the gear. Those
look like skiing boots too, don'tthey. What are we looking? What
are we looking at here? Martin? Help us guide us through this narrate
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this for us. Oh yeah,what are we looking at here? Martin?
Just now that is seeing where isthat? That is in the big
dunes of the world two kilometers whereI did even there and I am close
to a rider from Chile. He'shelping me to to build that trap.
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Very cool. Is it one Cachina? Yeah, that is Waina also,
But always when there is a competitionin Wachina, we try to go to
visit other dunes too. Oh okay, that's so cool, so beautiful.
There we go, I love Iam here with Yeah, yeah, trying.
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I did my front flip in acareer. In the south of Wakachina,
for example, is Nayawur from Lima, and this is one of the
first events I promote in this duneand that is the big the longest dunes
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to write underworld two kilometers and thatis an event in the base of the
dune to invite the people, thelocal people to see what is suborning.
Yeah, for those of you inthe radio broadcast and who will be listening
to this audio only podcast, Martinis upside down with sand flying through the
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air. He's upside down on thissandboard and it's just incredible. It looks
very cool, right and two kilometersthat along a way down. Yeah,
that's cool. Oh my gosh.Kids right, yeah, yeah, this
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is what's I was. Can youhear me? Yeah? Okay, so
yeah that they are the first generationof my projects. Some kids just now
everybody's working in someboording they are instructorthey have hisself a school in Wacachina.
Now wow, yeah what is thatone kid get a box? Is he
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special or what? Did he winsomething there? They win? Yeah,
there was the first event for younggeneration and everybody was here with me in
Switzerland too with a special project.I didn't see I didn't see the gold
medal around his neck, and soI was just kind of curious. That's
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good that you are creating opportunity forpeople like not like in general, like
it's nice to create opportunity to kids. And I know how hard it is
here in South America. We arealways trying to make kids go to the
right path and sports always it isthe best way of doing that. So
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that's very nice of you creating opportunityfor young kids to be able to work
and do stuff like that. Likeso nice, yes, thank you.
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Yeah. Here is also in ina career. That is people. Yeah,
the guy from the right site isfrom Brazil. Yeah, and Brazil,
Chile, Peru. And that wasthe first evenue in this two.
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That's cool. You guys look likehaving so much fun. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. Always when there is anevenum in Suboling, it's very I
am waiting only for that and Ian't organized it, but I am waiting
only for the party. This isthe best one you can have without beer,
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I think, right well, whenit's and have a beer for Suresco
sour and yeah, exactly. Thekids or sand kids, is it?
Yeah, this is they are thesun kids. There was before an even
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also too, and I am herein the right side looking and talking about
what is the event, and alwaystrying to say be careful because yeah,
any injury is the responsibility of us. Because I tried to say to the
parents, we care for the kids, so it's for you that you do
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that. You watch out. WhenI was a kid, they just said,
hey, good luck, kid,you're on your own. Don't come
back here if you get hurt.Yeah, don't don't blame us if you
get hurt. You know, well, lating parents they are very like carying.
That's cool. Yeah, walk itoff. One says that's it.
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I used to get that walk itoff. Get in the head with the
baseball, walk that off. Ohmy god, it's so cool. You
as do the kids down there brokenankle mark it off? Yeah, same
yeah. Another Yeah. Here istwo thousand and sixteen in Wacina, also
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for the some Boarding Cup Someboard inPeru Cup and thus was the most important
event in Peru, the National Cupand many riders from different city of Peru
coming to this place for the competitions. Yeahs and in the middle there is
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a the was a representation of theSwiss embassy to see your world about what
we are doing on the dunes.For with snowboarding on the dons. You're
like an international ambassador. I loveit. Okay, yeah, I like
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this. This is my first oneof my first professional photo. That was
for a guy from Hungary maybe Holland, I don't remember exactly, but he
was taking pictures and in this timenobody can to tain me pictures. I
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was writing writing, I don't waswith telephone or anything, and I hear
always with my in my hand,no was not good, also in my
legs. But yeah, it's nicepicture. Yeah, that was one of
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my first professional pictures because I havealso in a good quality I don't know
where, but it's in one thispen. This is the picture that was
in Sports Illustrated that prompted me todo this episode and the contact you really
it's picture Actually I made that upabout rolling or not really Stille the Sports
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Illustrated. But this is the picturethat my fears snowboard. I remember just
now that that is when I startedto write with my Fear snowboard. That's
so cool, beautiful picture. Theman is very handsome too, and that
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in Germany. Yeah, that isexactly with the board I have the board
here. Yeah, we are weneed to be with a lot of protection
because the sun is like a mountain. The sun is very special. It's
not like Brazil or any sun likethe besh it's you fall, maybe you
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and you have a jury and soyeah, that is in Germany. That
is where it's coming. The Europeanchamp someboard championship in Julie. Well,
yeah, like I can see thepicture that the sand is like bigger and
uh and harder yeah than that warthat can see here for sure, such
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a cool picture. Yeah, that'sis when I started. I was with
jeans with Yeah, that's is Isay to my friends from Lima to to
try to bring a surfboard to trybecause the history of some boarding started.
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There are many histories, but themost popular is that starts in Brazil.
In California too, when the zofirst come to in front of the beach
there there were so many dunes andthey start to slide with the on the
dunes with the board with the surfor sar, I can see them.
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Didn't that in California? Yeah?Yeah, yeah, yeah good. Yeah.
Here was in for the Sample WorldCup and the Fears Sumble World Cup.
Yeah, exactly. Kind of arock star he is. He's surrounded
by these two beautiful women they're probablywaiting for. That is the price.
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That's is the for the winners.That's the winners. I love it.
Sign me up. There we go. This is the one I wanted you
to explain. What the hell arewe looking at here? Yeah? That
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is with the a table with aboard with I started. I just now
this this board. The people usethis board only for sound slide to go
like lie down and you go downlike Namibia for example, there are very
popular table for writing lie down likeme. But I did this for this
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picture only for fun. But forme, I am very scared when I
write like this because I don't thinkso. I would think that's a good
way to just injure yourself for faithfulas saying, man, I don't know.
Yeah, yeah it looks cool,but uh it looks all dangerous.
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You all dangerous reading right? Ohyeah it can break a tear. Yeah,
yeah, I'm thinking that too.I'm thinking that too. And how
do you stop when you're like that? You know, when you're the first
no breaks, you can just dragyour feet behind it, like kind of
slowed down. I don't know.Yeah, there is no stop your head
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as they stop. That's what I'mtaking. That's what I'm taking. And
this probably would break your you know, you've both of these break your wrists
would look like fun though. Yeah, that's awesome, awesome thing. Yes,
thank you for sharing. That's myfavorite part. And the guys know
that that. That's why they're makingfun of me, because I love seeing
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the pictures and marching. Where canpeople contact with your online? Yeah?
Usually I use just now, Instagram, Martin Point, Sounds Snow or my
website Sounds Snow as from Switzerland.Yeah, ah, some more per pun
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con point con very cool, verycool, that's cool. Martin. Listen,
we want to thank you for beingour guest here this evening. Uh.
It's pleasure having you on the show. And this is an episode real
quickly, this is an episode thatI've wanted to do for about a year
and a half now, well butabout a year now, about a year
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a little here, and I justI couldn't. I couldn't find anyone that
could do it, that speak English, and I thought, finally I got
Martin. I go, yes,man, we're gonna good to do this
episode. So thank you so muchfor making this happen, so making this
episode come to uh, to fruition, fruition for us here, thank you
very much. And now by English, it's not a US. It's always
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a challenge. You rock, man, you rock for sure. It's awesome
and we're pleasure to have you here. Thank you, thank you. Yes,
and uh, you know your Englishis better than mine, so you
are fine, And thank you verymuch for being here. It's always nice
to share a little bit of SouthAmerica for the world. So thank you
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very much for your time and foreverything you have done. For these sports.
Yeah, in best of luck toyou, Martin. We really appreciate
it. Okay, thank you verymuch, take care. Well, we
just want to say thank you Martin. And tonight's episode is our last weekly
broadcast. Going forward, we'll bedoing special feature episodes exclusively. So that's
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how that's what we're going to bedoing for now. You won't see us
here live next week. Maya andI will be drinking beer. I'm joking,
but we won't be here live nextweek. But these special feature episodes
will only be available on our YouTubechannel that CW gets Outdoors CW G O
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so that you won't you want missany of those episodes that'll give you an
alarm. I guess that's how itworks. Lastly, I want to thank
Dean Piper, owner of Talk forTV and W four CY Radio, for
your advice, your your feedback,your coaching, and of course the opportunity
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to do a show here that youyou know, you've provided me to do
a show here which started out tobe a radio show four years ago and
then turn into the streaming television show. Appreciate that opportunity that you've given me
here, so that's been four plusyears. I also want to acknowledge my
previous producers Rebel and Roxy, andof course our current amazing Superman producer and
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engineer Juan Garcia, who has donean excellent job of engineering the show each
week and one. We truly appreciateall that you have done for us and
and for your professionalism. And Ialso want to thank my wonderful, amazing
friend and co host Ms mayam Arzakiand just you really brought a lot to
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the show and I really appreciate thata little over a year ago, you're
in three four months ago now.So yeah, well, I cannot thank
you enough for believing on me,for teaching me so much, for the
patient, for the friendship, andfor everything that was possible just because of
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you. We had so much fun. In the same time when we traveled,
I learned like lost about so muchstuff. So I cannot thank you
enough to believing on me more thanI was believing on me. So yeah,
so thank you very much for theopportunity, and yes, I'm looking
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forward to the next treep. Yeah, you're quite welcome, first of all,
and secondly, we are planning sometrips. We got invited back to
just everybody. We got invited backto Aruba again this year. We're go
and do another feature and a littlesomething a little different there. This year.
We also got in and there's apotential there for us to do a
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trip of a property or with aproperty that they now have in Dominican Republic.
So they've asked us to, youknow, if we would consider that,
and I think we will, andso someplace I've never been. And
then we've got the UTMB in Brazilthat they've they've wanted us to do this
last this race last year and wedidn't get to kind of a little too
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close to make everything work. Butwe've been working on this one this year
since January, so I think we'regoing to try to make that happen this
year. So we've got some we'vegot some opportunities before us and you'll see
us again, just won't see usevery week live. We have then for
the you know, for the pastwell may you and I for the past
over a year now, but soyeah, but we've really enjoyed it and
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enjoyed bringing this show live every weekand it's been a lot of fun.
One one is Superman and one whydon't you jump on here real quick?
I know you got another show todo it jump on. Let what you
see our wonderful producer. How howhandsome this gentleman is. See if you'll
see, if you'll pop on?Did you shower? Did you ready for
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that? I didn't tell him thathe would be on this, but but
pop on here real quick. One. Yeah, he didn't show me anything.
There he is there. I loveit. What a handsome dude man.
And you know, you just won'tfind a more handsome, more uh
talented engineer and producer than this man, right and with a great voice.
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Yes, I understand he's single andavailable women. So there you go,
all the station. You know,if you're ever in my neck of the
swamp, just let me know.Yeah, we'll get together. And that
surprised you one of these days.Yeah, I will love that so well.
And thanks to the station, youknow, thanks Dean Piper everything.
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Really you guys are amazing there andreally appreciate it all. So this special
feature thing, those are going tobe recorded, so we don't have we
don't have the need for an engineerand all that kind of good stuff.
But we will miss we will missall of this, I assure you.
So yeah. I have so muchfun and I learned so much, and
I love meeting new people and Ilove being here with you guys. So
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I'm going to miss that very much. I'm kind of f lost because I
don't know what I'm going to donext week. Is a good point.
Yeah, well it's it's been.It's been a lot of fun. I
I definitely will miss uh miss youon and and all that kind of stuff.
I'll see I'll still see Maya,so yeah, yeah, thank you.
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Welcome to outdoors people with me.Cw Getz and her Maya mar Zaki.
Good evening. It's Wednesday, Apriltwenty fourth, twenty twenty four.
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We have a chili chili chilli fiftyeight degrees fahnheight. But shelly uh,
fifteen degrees celsius temperature here in northcentral Illinois. What you got down there
in Brazil? May well, nice, beautiful and warm like Colwis with twenty
five degrees celshoes and it means foryou guys in United States seven to seven
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degrees fahrenheit. So jealous, Sojust we're supposed to get like eighty degrees
I think Saturday, I think itis heavier Sunday. So I'm looking forward
to that. Man, I'm lookingforward to that. Well, you won't
be on fro the bikini mowing mylawn, you know how that goes and
looking like the Amazon jungle right now, so very very long, Hey,
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congratulate me. I turned thirty nineyears old yesterday. Yeah, just saying
that, that's so cool you areolder. Yeah, that's funny, that's
aid it is. I'm enjoying this. I'm gonna milk this one, you
know. But it was it.I actually told the server. We my
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cousin Gary and I went out lastnight for dinner. I call it.
We call it supper here slepper herein the country, you know. And
my dad went with us, andthe server, who was all of eighteen
years old, I told her myreal age and she goes, no way,
you don't look at your age.And I'm like, wow, just
made my night, Thank you somuch, dear. But then but then
(02:27):
in about a moment later, shetold us her mom was in a bandon
because Gary asked, well, hey, you know, what's your last what's
your name? And she told herand I know, and we said,
well, you know the band vanHalen then right, you know, and
she said no, she has noclue. At that moment, I felt
older than Moses. Oh my gosh, No, he don't see old because
(02:50):
she is in another world. She'sleaving in a shoe box, and she
doesn't knowing music and artists in general. I know, I know when Helen
well you know, you know,yeah. I told Mary Ell that today
and the phone and she said,you know, yeah, because oh wow,
I don't know. But she's acharming young lady. Just that just
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made me feel old. So whatare you gonna do? Oh yeah,
yeah, thirty nine. Well,anything especially happening, anything in Brazil that
you'd like to, you know,bring to our attention, yes, of
course. Always such an amazing place, right, so much to see and
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you know, uh so the lastweekend I went to a mountain trip because
the mountain season just started nice andwe went to the first national park in
Brazil and it is so so beautiful, so beautiful. And talking about that,
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by the way, guys, uh, if you want to travel to
Brazil and you know how and whereto go, just let me know because
I just started business to bring peopleto Brazil. So whatever you like to
do, like outdoors or I don'tknow, like restaurants. We have the
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best places. And if you don'tknow how to even start, message me
and I will show Brazil. Throwmy eyes and what's the name of this
new company that you this adventure companyBrazil Outdoor an Adventure. There you go,
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man and excellent. Yeah, thereyou go. The acronym Boa.
What a cool. I love thewhole and impart of is it's means like
good cool. So I love it. There you go. I love it.
That's very clever. And you do. I mean it's all sports.
I mean you anything, kayaking,canoeing, climbing, any thing, anything,
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So yeah, I mean we haveeverything here and we have like the
best places to do all types ofoutdoors sports and indoor as well, but
outdoors but much better. Right,So we have everything. So whatever you
are looking for for your next adventurein Brazil, just let them know I'm
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here and they can find you whereon Instagram at yeah am I at or
my personal account or the new accountsBrazil Outdoor Adventure. There you go,
there you go. We've successfully gotthat plug in there. I wanted to
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do that before I forgot very good. That's nice. Yeah, well,
let's meet tonight's guest, shall weforty two year old Peruvian business consultants and
entrepreneur Martin Guerre aka Martin sandsnow nowmakes his home in Saint Gallin, Switzerland.
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In twenty twelve, Martin founded thecompany Sandboarding Peru with the idea of
professionalizing not only the sport of boardingon the sand, but also to develop
the professional concept of the name sandboarding. In twenty fourteen, he co founded
the International Sandboarding and Sanski Association withthe mission of promoting and developing sandboarding and
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sand sea sand skiing internationally. Thenext big event will be the European Sandboarding
Championship held in Germany from July elevenththrough July fourteenth. Martin is currently working
on several projects that involve sand dunes, as well as continuing efforts towards strengthening
bilateral relations between two regions each ondifferent continents. Howny kill, did you
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know about sanboarding in santasy? Yes, look like snowboarding and sea but on
the Sunday. My name is MartinGerra. I am from Peru, but
I live in Switzerland and I willbe very very happy to tell you more
home this sport, Shane, mylife came. This amazing sport is growing
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around the world in many countries,community competitions. The most important is home.
This sport is growing in the streetto change more life for the future
generation who is involving to grow inmore professional this sport. So if you
want to know more about this sport, this news friend son snow, I
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will be very happy to tell youmore about that. And with Fad Welcome
to the show, Martin, Hello, everybody, are you doing it?
Welcome? I love those videos?So cool? Yeah, absolutely absolutely.
You're coming to us tonight from Switzerland, am I right? Switzerland? Not
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Paral, but Switzerland. Yeah.And in Switzerland now, yeah. And
in two weeks I go to Peru. Oh, very cool, very cool.
That's cool. I'm kind of jealous. I want to go so bad
Peru and it is so close by, so I hope I can make it
as soon as possible. But well, first let's have you explain the difference
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between sandboarding and sand skiing. Okay, Fierst, thank you for the invitation.
The idea is to to have inour mind for this interview. The
idea is to to to understand therelation between snowboarding and ski. Imagine snowboarding
and ski. That is the bigdifference is the surface sand dunes and a
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snow mountain, so a snowboard sunboording. We're right with the somebour like this,
that is someboard, that's it snowboard, but it is the same,
only the surface we need to totry to thin is another environment. Now,
yeah, that is the difference.Ski is like a board for two
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for two feet in your in yourlegs, but some boarding is like snowboarding.
Yeah, is it it feels different? I'm sure. I mean,
it's just not the same as beingon snow snow being a little I don't
know, or is it Is itabout the same? Is it similar feeling
snow between snow snow, I'm sureyou get you get dirtier, for sure,
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kid, is one more slick thanthe other? Martin? Yeah,
someboard in Yeah, that is becausehome star that trends and snow because it's
very similar. People who want totry the experience on snowboarding and ski on
the sand dunes, they can't tryin one day with the saints mythology or
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the saying technical, but with professionalpeople, local people who want to give
you to introduce to the sport ismore easy. For example, my first
time was in the snow was veryeasy, not easy, but were simple.
That was so much difficult than otherpeople who try snowboarding the first time.
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Yeah, you know it's less thantwo years ago. I'd never even
heard of sandboarding or sand skiing.You know, how did how and when
did you get into each one ofthese? Yeah? I like adventure sport
adventure trips. So in twenty twothousand and seven, I take that decision
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to travel outside of because I amfrom Lima and in this situation was a
little chaotic life, kaotic situation inmy life, and I want to go
out to to take like a medicinewith adventure sport or adventure trip. So
that is the reason. Because Itraveled four hours to the south to to
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to Lima. I was looking ininternet what is possible to do? And
I found the sport on the boardwriting on the duns, I don't want,
I don't need, What's what isthat? So only I tried to
go to the place and to knowexactly what is this sport and that's it
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home start my adventure with sun boarding. I tried to go to this place
every weekend, but that was notpossible because I was in no augod situation
of my life. But after toto know that subboording more people when I
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go back to Lima from my studyof my world, that people asking me
a Martin, when we can gowith you to try to leave this experience
that's his home. I started togo more frequent to to is the place
for hours from the so of Lima, so that is home. Start my
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lifestyle with somebourding. That's a greatstory. Yeah, that's very cool.
I saw that you're in Brazil becausewe have up north and down the south
and front of the beach, butI really didn't know that it was like
a real sport and a big thing. I really thought that it was just
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you know, like a tourism thingto have fun. So that's cool.
See like the sports growing and becomingsuch a big thing, like you were
going to German Now that's very Whattype of boards were you using when you
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first started? Yeah, that isinteresting an important question for for for me
in heavy because it's like to goback to the for my history home.
I started the sport because I haveunlucky because I started with writing with a
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table like a simple table with thestraps, nafee professional. That is home.
I understand homeworld with home is thesport now because we are using like
snowboarding with technology, different size,different shape of snowboard or some boards,
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and that's its home. Komes playedto the future generation what opportunities they have
now exactly now to try to growin the sport more professional or try to
use the sport to shage life too. I write with a table with a
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table with an ironing board, mayberight, I said, It was kind
of like like with maybe with anironing board. You're going down right?
Yeah, yeah, I'm very veryfun now, yeah, it's really Yeah.
My dream before when I started tolearn the sport, my dream was
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to have this board, a simpleboard with the start with the straps,
and this board was maybe the costwas twenty five dollars yeah, and this
time was a little not so much, but for my situation was so much.
Well, how do these standboards differentnow from uh, you know,
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the sand boards? How do theydiffer from snowboards? I should say?
And how the you know, dosandboards wear out quickly? Since like sand
is abrasive or or is it not? What I would think yeah. For
example, just I have here asnowboard. Oh cool, this is a
snowboard, real snowboard. When peoplebring props to the show so we can
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see exactly what we're talking about.I love this, right, Yeah,
that is a real snowboard. Iused that in Germany because in Germany is
another sound is a mineral, verybig. It's another it's not really really
very fine that the sun is snowvery small. For example, when I
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write on Germany. Yeah, seethat German snow is rough. I can
see that. Wow. Yeah,that is a snow Yeah. Sorry,
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this is the sandboard here, right, That is the sambo. That's a
that is a special material, andthat's is from Brazil. To hear tonight.
I love that his brand is fromBrazil. The shape is from Floridanapolis
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is a good friend. What's thebrand name of that board now? The
name is ayah i yah assemble myassemble. Yeah. I started to row
in the industry with him also becausehe was started to come into my my
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country for events and try to hetried to support songwriters who are going to
another special performance, to do trips, jumps, everything, and yeah.
The big difference is the material inthe base, and that's we use that.
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The material is melamina. Melamina isa material maybe years ago. This
material the people use it in thekitchen for example for the fun furniture.
So yeah, that's does this materialdo? It's possible to write more fast.
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But every time when we're riding,we are riding on the dunes.
Every time, each time we weneed to put wax. Also yeah,
okay, okay, I can see. I was going to ask you where
people can purchase sandboards and send skis, but now I know in Brazil.
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Guys come to Brazil by your words. Yeah, but where where else people
cannot find like people can find don'twine another another countries? How it works?
Yeah? Where where the people canto practice and boarding? Sure?
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Bye sandboard sorry by one. Yeah. For example in Brazil is the this
shape is very in our community isvery famous because they do a special board
for a good performance. He deliveredfor all continents for people who want to
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try. For example, the lastI was talking with him, the last
weekend, he was preparing a boardfor New Zealand for example, and the
other board for Russia. For Russia. Also depends where do you want to
practice. The sample I can giveyou some spots where to buy For example,
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I have there are chapers or storesin Chile, Brazil, Peru,
Mexico, also in USA, inOregon, in Dubai, for example,
it's a big industry in Dubai,be a good, very good store.
And also in Arabia, Soudis andAustralia too. So the idea is where
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you for example, in your case, you can you can find three three
chapers, three stores where you canbuy a board. Yeah yeah. Let
me ask you, Martin, whatare the most popular places for sandboarding in
sand skiing around the world. Well, Brazil so much. I might be
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more, but go ahead, no, Brazil is one of my favorite is
country to write because the sun isvery very special? Is that for me?
It's the sand in Brazil is themost beautiful sand to write. Only
the problem is very short, verysmall dunes. But when when you do
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a jump, you you feel likeon the snow because it's very close to
the beach. So in the coast. But the most popular region to do
some boording is South America. Ingeneral, Peru, Chile, Brazil,
Argentina are the most popular places topractice samboording, but Central America, Mexico
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for example in USA, Oregon.In Germany, for example, there is
coming the new European Sample Championship.Do buy Morocco, Spain, also in
Arabia, Saudio. Of course thereare countries for example, people don't imagine
it's possible to do some boarding becauseBolivia, for example, Bolivia have duns
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and they practice some bording too.But also for recreational, for touristic service
to wow a lot of places.Yeah right, and we didn't know and
they are around the world, mainlyhere in South America. So I'm very
glad to hear. You know,we got Oregon in the United States.
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Oregon is one of the first sunMaster. Part is that we are very
proud of Oregon with with long Bailbecause he started to build some part and
after to try to to promote topromote the samboarding around the world. Two
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cool, that's very cool. Andwhat's the International scent Boarding and Senski Association.
Yeah. After to develop the sumboardingin my country, I start to
know people from another countries with theconnection with the snow and it's very interesting
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because when I start to when Istarted to work with the Swiss embassy to
promove the culture or snowboardn ski.I started to know people from Switzerland.
Also, my wife is from Switzerlandtoo. When I arrived to Switzerland,
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I meet with all the people whoI meet in Peru and we start to
talk to promove more international the sunboardingand sky and thus was w we start
to fund the International Sandboarding and sanSky Association INTERSCENCE. You know, that's
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what's the idea that aimed to tointerstand is to promove and developed more the
sunboarding around the world. That's prettycool. Yeah, you're you're a sandboarding
consultant, uh for several major corporations, and you also have a connection between
you know, is Peru and Switzerland. Thing. Tell us about that?
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What's that all about? Yeah?Yes, now is the Yeah, five
years ago, for example, thewinter were five six years ago, the
winter were very very in Europe.For example, there were so much snow
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and the industry of snowboarding or thebrands like red Bull or other brands.
Big brands started to do to seespecial projects with the riders. So that
is I start to give my advicefor these companies to do snowboarding. But
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on the sund so I did manyproductions for televisions for brands companies, because
the riders when I start to writeon the sun, they feel very very
bad because it's not the same.And for productions, the most important is
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the time. Also, I've beento Jordania for example, Morocco round three
to Peru saproform for what production threedays to Peru round three from Switzerland to
Peru for a special production unless towrite one doom only for the special color
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of the dun We being in Perubecause they auditioned for a special clothes with
this color of the dun so andthat was very interesting. That's so cool.
You guys took it higher and likereal, that's so cool. That's
(25:33):
nice to see someone involved that awayin Niceport and make that become so well
known and talking about that. Arethere scentboarding in sand schemes competitions in other
parts of the world. Yeah.I started to promote the competitions in Peru
(25:56):
in my country, but just nowis coming for example European Chamber Sample Championship
in Germany. This spot is veryimportant in the community of sam Berlin because
here the people in Germany or theorganizers have the culture or snowboarding, so
that technology for the race for thefor the tracks Slalo and border cross are
(26:22):
very interesting. It's very fun too. But also the in South America,
I say it is the most popularplace to do some boling. And just
now I can say Chile is growingvery very good in a good performance or
to organize events. The last weekend, for example, there was an event
(26:45):
in in in Chile Peru. Iam going to Peru to try to talk
with the authorities to to try todo the next World Cup the next year.
But my trip to Peru is alsoto try to meet the people of
the community of samboarding. It's comingpeople from Brazil, from Chile, and
(27:10):
I am going with people from Europeto Peru to try to talk more about
what is coming in the future forsomeboding on what we can do it,
what project is coming and what projectis possible to do together to try to
grow in more the sport in thedirection to do more professional to use that
(27:32):
also for the future generation. That'sso cool, that's true. I can
see this in the Olympics. Whatdo you think, maya right? I
almost too, Yes, I'm excitedand right why not? And if you
(27:52):
need someone in Brazil to try tocreate a competition here. I would be
so happy to be part of that. Now I have a those connections in
Peru and Brazils. That's cool.I really hope that you guys can make
it here in Brazil and let meknow because I am going for sure because
I want to see it in person. That's so cool. And uh,
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what are the most common injuries yousee in sand boarding and sand skin?
I am sure you hurt your skinwhen you fall though, yeah, but
like knee problems like what yeah,I'm thinking sand burns. I can see
(28:38):
those. Like what do you getraspberries? We call them right? Yeah.
The big difference between the snowboarding inthe in the in the snow,
when you fall maybe you is light, very easy, but when you fall
in the sun it's sticky. No, It's very depends how fast you go.
(29:03):
Who speed are you going, becausethat is very important to know where
are you practice somebody? Uh forexample, is you practice for the first
time. It's very important to havean instructor. That is the reason because
I started my company in Peru,because there isn't in this time there were
an instructor or company especially to giveinstructions for other people. But the jur
(29:30):
is more. It's not frequently,but maybe when you fall maybe don't brows
nahy, but in one week maybeyou say, ah, that is because
I fall in the sun. Butin competitions, normally that clabicule, yeah
here that that is the more frashhill fraghill bonds in our body. So
(29:57):
usually when you go so much speed, usually probably the clabb equal is the
most franqulity injury. So that's likeskiing. You can get some you can
get some broken bones, I canskiing. Then yeah, interesting Martin.
What a compliments? What accomplishments havecontributed to the growth and popularity of sandboarding
(30:22):
and sand sand skiing? What acompliments? Accomplishments? I can say that
accomplishments have contributed to the growth ofthese two things. Yeah sorry sorry?
Can you repeat? Yeah? Sowhat what has all been done? What
accomplishments have you made? Uh thathelped this these two sports grow and be
as popular as they are. Whatkind of things have you accomplished in that
(30:45):
way? Ah? I think myI can I say if some people come
to know the history of snowboarding,the snowboarding growing is only example for the
community, the people who practice,and it's very close to to For example,
(31:06):
I am going to Peru just now. I am very happy to know
people from Chile, Brazil and peoplefrom Europe. Is coming with me only
because they are very interesting. Toknow more about the community and to know
more people, and that's its home. The samboarding is growing because when we
(31:32):
do these events, for example,the sample work up or whatever events.
Just now I am going to doonly expeditions and inviting everybody. The reason
is to do a meeting, samplemeeting, to promove and to to have
more ideas in our community, togrow in more the sport. I think
(31:53):
every writer is the most important thingsto do more in the future. So
I think in general the community ofsome boording is very small but very strong.
And it is the reason because justnow I know many many people around
(32:14):
the world, and it's because probablyI do many events. I like to
do events to meet the people inone place and they are very happy to
when I amoungst events to try togo there. No, you do a
lot of work, you do alot of traveling make these things possible.
(32:36):
I understand that, right, Yeah, yeah, I travel. I like
to travel. I try to travelbecause one of my passion is to try
to give back what the sport givesme to. So I want to try
to give my experience opportunities for otherpeople, other other kids or their future
(33:00):
generations or jump people. For example. I have a project in Peru call
it sun Kids, and I meetkids from twelve years old and just now
after ten years. They have hisschool a company and they are instructors and
(33:21):
they have a work, a workto give opportunity to other people. So
yeah, very cool, that's socool. Yes, you you have accomplished
lots for make sandboard in Sanski growin the world, around the world.
So that's very cul And now themost important question on are you ready?
(33:53):
He's always ready for photos? Ilove get to do these notes and nobody
sees us, but we have this, you know, behind the scenes.
Here text She's always ready for photos. It says, oh, I love
it, and are you ready?One, I want to see the pictures.
(34:14):
Let's see photos. There we gothe sand rock stars. Guys that
it looks pretty cool. I likethis. I like the gear. Those
look like skiing boots too, don'tthey. What are we looking? What
are we looking at here? Martin? Help us guide us through this narrate
(34:34):
this for us. Oh yeah,what are we looking at here? Martin?
Just now that is seeing where isthat? That is in the big
dunes of the world two kilometers whereI did even there and I am close
to a rider from Chile. He'shelping me to to build that trap.
(34:58):
Very cool. Is it one Cachina? Yeah, that is Waina also,
But always when there is a competitionin Wachina, we try to go to
visit other dunes too. Oh okay, that's so cool, so beautiful.
There we go, I love Iam here with Yeah, yeah, trying.
(35:24):
I did my front flip in acareer. In the south of Wakachina,
for example, is Nayawur from Lima, and this is one of the
first events I promote in this duneand that is the big the longest dunes
(35:45):
to write underworld two kilometers and thatis an event in the base of the
dune to invite the people, thelocal people to see what is suborning.
Yeah, for those of you inthe radio broadcast and who will be listening
to this audio only podcast, Martinis upside down with sand flying through the
(36:05):
air. He's upside down on thissandboard and it's just incredible. It looks
very cool, right and two kilometersthat along a way down. Yeah,
that's cool. Oh my gosh.Kids right, yeah, yeah, this
(36:27):
is what's I was. Can youhear me? Yeah? Okay, so
yeah that they are the first generationof my projects. Some kids just now
everybody's working in someboording they are instructorthey have hisself a school in Wacachina.
Now wow, yeah what is thatone kid get a box? Is he
(36:52):
special or what? Did he winsomething there? They win? Yeah,
there was the first event for younggeneration and everybody was here with me in
Switzerland too with a special project.I didn't see I didn't see the gold
medal around his neck, and soI was just kind of curious. That's
(37:14):
good that you are creating opportunity forpeople like not like in general, like
it's nice to create opportunity to kids. And I know how hard it is
here in South America. We arealways trying to make kids go to the
right path and sports always it isthe best way of doing that. So
(37:37):
that's very nice of you creating opportunityfor young kids to be able to work
and do stuff like that. Likeso nice, yes, thank you.
(37:59):
Yeah. Here is also in ina career. That is people. Yeah,
the guy from the right site isfrom Brazil. Yeah, and Brazil,
Chile, Peru. And that wasthe first evenue in this two.
(38:23):
That's cool. You guys look likehaving so much fun. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. Always when there is anevenum in Suboling, it's very I
am waiting only for that and Ian't organized it, but I am waiting
only for the party. This isthe best one you can have without beer,
(38:45):
I think, right well, whenit's and have a beer for Suresco
sour and yeah, exactly. Thekids or sand kids, is it?
Yeah, this is they are thesun kids. There was before an even
(39:05):
also too, and I am herein the right side looking and talking about
what is the event, and alwaystrying to say be careful because yeah,
any injury is the responsibility of us. Because I tried to say to the
parents, we care for the kids, so it's for you that you do
(39:31):
that. You watch out. WhenI was a kid, they just said,
hey, good luck, kid,you're on your own. Don't come
back here if you get hurt.Yeah, don't don't blame us if you
get hurt. You know, well, lating parents they are very like carying.
That's cool. Yeah, walk itoff. One says that's it.
(39:51):
I used to get that walk itoff. Get in the head with the
baseball, walk that off. Ohmy god, it's so cool. You
as do the kids down there brokenankle mark it off? Yeah, same
yeah. Another Yeah. Here istwo thousand and sixteen in Wacina, also
(40:14):
for the some Boarding Cup Someboard inPeru Cup and thus was the most important
event in Peru, the National Cupand many riders from different city of Peru
coming to this place for the competitions. Yeahs and in the middle there is
(40:37):
a the was a representation of theSwiss embassy to see your world about what
we are doing on the dunes.For with snowboarding on the dons. You're
like an international ambassador. I loveit. Okay, yeah, I like
(41:06):
this. This is my first oneof my first professional photo. That was
for a guy from Hungary maybe Holland, I don't remember exactly, but he
was taking pictures and in this timenobody can to tain me pictures. I
(41:27):
was writing writing, I don't waswith telephone or anything, and I hear
always with my in my hand,no was not good, also in my
legs. But yeah, it's nicepicture. Yeah, that was one of
(41:50):
my first professional pictures because I havealso in a good quality I don't know
where, but it's in one thispen. This is the picture that was
in Sports Illustrated that prompted me todo this episode and the contact you really
it's picture Actually I made that upabout rolling or not really Stille the Sports
(42:15):
Illustrated. But this is the picturethat my fears snowboard. I remember just
now that that is when I startedto write with my Fear snowboard. That's
so cool, beautiful picture. Theman is very handsome too, and that
(42:39):
in Germany. Yeah, that isexactly with the board I have the board
here. Yeah, we are weneed to be with a lot of protection
because the sun is like a mountain. The sun is very special. It's
not like Brazil or any sun likethe besh it's you fall, maybe you
(43:04):
and you have a jury and soyeah, that is in Germany. That
is where it's coming. The Europeanchamp someboard championship in Julie. Well,
yeah, like I can see thepicture that the sand is like bigger and
uh and harder yeah than that warthat can see here for sure, such
(43:25):
a cool picture. Yeah, that'sis when I started. I was with
jeans with Yeah, that's is Isay to my friends from Lima to to
try to bring a surfboard to trybecause the history of some boarding started.
(43:51):
There are many histories, but themost popular is that starts in Brazil.
In California too, when the zofirst come to in front of the beach
there there were so many dunes andthey start to slide with the on the
dunes with the board with the surfor sar, I can see them.
(44:13):
Didn't that in California? Yeah?Yeah, yeah, yeah good. Yeah.
Here was in for the Sample WorldCup and the Fears Sumble World Cup.
Yeah, exactly. Kind of arock star he is. He's surrounded
by these two beautiful women they're probablywaiting for. That is the price.
(44:38):
That's is the for the winners.That's the winners. I love it.
Sign me up. There we go. This is the one I wanted you
to explain. What the hell arewe looking at here? Yeah? That
(44:59):
is with the a table with aboard with I started. I just now
this this board. The people usethis board only for sound slide to go
like lie down and you go downlike Namibia for example, there are very
popular table for writing lie down likeme. But I did this for this
(45:25):
picture only for fun. But forme, I am very scared when I
write like this because I don't thinkso. I would think that's a good
way to just injure yourself for faithfulas saying, man, I don't know.
Yeah, yeah it looks cool,but uh it looks all dangerous.
(45:47):
You all dangerous reading right? Ohyeah it can break a tear. Yeah,
yeah, I'm thinking that too.I'm thinking that too. And how
do you stop when you're like that? You know, when you're the first
no breaks, you can just dragyour feet behind it, like kind of
slowed down. I don't know.Yeah, there is no stop your head
(46:10):
as they stop. That's what I'mtaking. That's what I'm taking. And
this probably would break your you know, you've both of these break your wrists
would look like fun though. Yeah, that's awesome, awesome thing. Yes,
thank you for sharing. That's myfavorite part. And the guys know
that that. That's why they're makingfun of me, because I love seeing
(46:31):
the pictures and marching. Where canpeople contact with your online? Yeah?
Usually I use just now, Instagram, Martin Point, Sounds Snow or my
website Sounds Snow as from Switzerland.Yeah, ah, some more per pun
(46:55):
con point con very cool, verycool, that's cool. Martin. Listen,
we want to thank you for beingour guest here this evening. Uh.
It's pleasure having you on the show. And this is an episode real
quickly, this is an episode thatI've wanted to do for about a year
and a half now, well butabout a year now, about a year
(47:19):
a little here, and I justI couldn't. I couldn't find anyone that
could do it, that speak English, and I thought, finally I got
Martin. I go, yes,man, we're gonna good to do this
episode. So thank you so muchfor making this happen, so making this
episode come to uh, to fruition, fruition for us here, thank you
very much. And now by English, it's not a US. It's always
(47:44):
a challenge. You rock, man, you rock for sure. It's awesome
and we're pleasure to have you here. Thank you, thank you. Yes,
and uh, you know your Englishis better than mine, so you
are fine, And thank you verymuch for being here. It's always nice
to share a little bit of SouthAmerica for the world. So thank you
(48:07):
very much for your time and foreverything you have done. For these sports.
Yeah, in best of luck toyou, Martin. We really appreciate
it. Okay, thank you verymuch, take care. Well, we
just want to say thank you Martin. And tonight's episode is our last weekly
broadcast. Going forward, we'll bedoing special feature episodes exclusively. So that's
(48:30):
how that's what we're going to bedoing for now. You won't see us
here live next week. Maya andI will be drinking beer. I'm joking,
but we won't be here live nextweek. But these special feature episodes
will only be available on our YouTubechannel that CW gets Outdoors CW G O
(48:52):
E t Z Outdoors. So pleasesubscribe to our channel and then select notify
so that you won't you want missany of those episodes that'll give you an
alarm. I guess that's how itworks. Lastly, I want to thank
Dean Piper, owner of Talk forTV and W four CY Radio, for
your advice, your your feedback,your coaching, and of course the opportunity
(49:16):
to do a show here that youyou know, you've provided me to do
a show here which started out tobe a radio show four years ago and
then turn into the streaming television show. Appreciate that opportunity that you've given me
here, so that's been four plusyears. I also want to acknowledge my
previous producers Rebel and Roxy, andof course our current amazing Superman producer and
(49:42):
engineer Juan Garcia, who has donean excellent job of engineering the show each
week and one. We truly appreciateall that you have done for us and
and for your professionalism. And Ialso want to thank my wonderful, amazing
friend and co host Ms mayam Arzakiand just you really brought a lot to
(50:06):
the show and I really appreciate thata little over a year ago, you're
in three four months ago now.So yeah, well, I cannot thank
you enough for believing on me,for teaching me so much, for the
patient, for the friendship, andfor everything that was possible just because of
(50:27):
you. We had so much fun. In the same time when we traveled,
I learned like lost about so muchstuff. So I cannot thank you
enough to believing on me more thanI was believing on me. So yeah,
so thank you very much for theopportunity, and yes, I'm looking
(50:50):
forward to the next treep. Yeah, you're quite welcome, first of all,
and secondly, we are planning sometrips. We got invited back to
just everybody. We got invited backto Aruba again this year. We're go
and do another feature and a littlesomething a little different there. This year.
We also got in and there's apotential there for us to do a
(51:10):
trip of a property or with aproperty that they now have in Dominican Republic.
So they've asked us to, youknow, if we would consider that,
and I think we will, andso someplace I've never been. And
then we've got the UTMB in Brazilthat they've they've wanted us to do this
last this race last year and wedidn't get to kind of a little too
(51:34):
close to make everything work. Butwe've been working on this one this year
since January, so I think we'regoing to try to make that happen this
year. So we've got some we'vegot some opportunities before us and you'll see
us again, just won't see usevery week live. We have then for
the you know, for the pastwell may you and I for the past
over a year now, but soyeah, but we've really enjoyed it and
(51:57):
enjoyed bringing this show live every weekand it's been a lot of fun.
One one is Superman and one whydon't you jump on here real quick?
I know you got another show todo it jump on. Let what you
see our wonderful producer. How howhandsome this gentleman is. See if you'll
see, if you'll pop on?Did you shower? Did you ready for
(52:17):
that? I didn't tell him thathe would be on this, but but
pop on here real quick. One. Yeah, he didn't show me anything.
There he is there. I loveit. What a handsome dude man.
And you know, you just won'tfind a more handsome, more uh
talented engineer and producer than this man, right and with a great voice.
(52:40):
Yes, I understand he's single andavailable women. So there you go,
all the station. You know,if you're ever in my neck of the
swamp, just let me know.Yeah, we'll get together. And that
surprised you one of these days.Yeah, I will love that so well.
And thanks to the station, youknow, thanks Dean Piper everything.
(53:04):
Really you guys are amazing there andreally appreciate it all. So this special
feature thing, those are going tobe recorded, so we don't have we
don't have the need for an engineerand all that kind of good stuff.
But we will miss we will missall of this, I assure you.
So yeah. I have so muchfun and I learned so much, and
I love meeting new people and Ilove being here with you guys. So
(53:27):
I'm going to miss that very much. I'm kind of f lost because I
don't know what I'm going to donext week. Is a good point.
Yeah, well it's it's been.It's been a lot of fun. I
I definitely will miss uh miss youon and and all that kind of stuff.
I'll see I'll still see Maya,so yeah, yeah, thank you.
(53:51):
Well yeah, well, so fornow, this is c W gets
saying along with Mayam r Zaki forthe last time, a live weekly show,
saying thanks for tuning in to OutdoorsPeople, See you next time. Show
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