April 10, 2024 • 46 mins
50-year-old Liz Galloway grew up in Salt Lake City Utah. & holds degrees in Pre Law, Business/Hospitality & Aviation Admin. & Cert. in Yoga, Group Fitness & Lic. Massage Therapist, RYA Essential Nav. & Seamanship, STCW Stand. of Training Cert. & Watchkeeping for Seafarers, FAA Part 107 Drone Cert. & an Int'l. Assn. Wilderness Guides Jungle Cert. & student rotor pilot training/helicopter pilot training. Liz has spent 20+ yrs in Int'l. Travel/Tourism, PR & Mktg. & Luxury Wellness/Medical Tourism.
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Welcome to outdoors people with me.Cw Getz and her Maya mar Zaki.
Good evening. It's Wednesday, Apriltenth, twenty twenty four. We've got
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a beautiful and I do me beautifulsixty five degree fahrenheit nineteen degrees celsius day
here in north central Illinois. Beatthat, miss Marzaki. I am so
jealous. Oh my gosh, Iknew you would be. I am very
jellos here. It is so hotwith twenty six degrees celsius and it means
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seven to eight degrees. Oh mygod, you really think that's hot.
Oh my gosh, that's too much. And it's so shouldn't be so hot.
You need to come to Illinois inthe summertime. You'll have ninety five
percent humidity. With ninety eight degreesone hundred degrees, you will be miserable.
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And well, the summer in Brazilis like worse than that. But
I mean it's falls. Should bechiller, but not it is still hot.
Yeah. I think you need corndown there, more corn. You've
got corn, but you need morecorn to cool that place off in the
fall. That's what happens. Ohyeah, sure, it's more forest.
That's what you need. People herein Brazil it is like killing their rain
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forest so that it's like so hot. Yeah, mister Garcia in Florida,
Florida, eighty degrees eighty degrees.That's that's nice too. It's perfect.
There was eighty six during the dayhere, he said, So stop complaining.
My gosh, no, I wenton my fall. I want a
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where are you? I love it? Hey, I mowed my lawn today
for the first time, and somethingvery strange happened. I'm mowing my ditches
and that's ditches with a D andI all of a sudden, I saw
this credit card. I go,whoa dude? So I picked it up
and it had this young lady's name. Well I don't know young lady,
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but she was a girl's name onit. I found out she was a
young lady. But all of asudden, there's another credit card, and
another credit card, and another creditcard, and then a wallet, the
entire wallet, and then actually wayup in my yarn, I found another
credit card. Later, I go, this girl, I got to get
this, you know, get holdof her. Well, fortunately her driver's
license was in there, you know, no major money, so I can't
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retire yet. But anyway, thewhole thing is I told my ups man
with such a small community, andhe called someone got her phone number right
off the bat, and they immediatelycalled me. She lost it in Halloween.
So yeah, it's been a while, win absolutely so. Yeah,
so it's just funny. But thisthis girl will be united with her wallet
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and her credit cards as soon astomorrow, so he plans to return it
to her. So yeah, goodfor her, Good for her. It
was in your yard, I know, right, the chances of that being
in my yard and not down theroad and you know the cornfield are right.
Well, well, let's meet tonight'sguest fifty year old public relations and
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marketing expert. Liz Galloway grew upin Salt Lake City, Utah. While
attending universities in Utah and in internationalonline programs while living overseas, she earned
degrees in pre law, business andHospitality and Aviation administration. Liz also achieved
certifications in yoga and group fitness,and she's licensed in Therapeutic Massage, RYA
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Essential Navigation Seamanship STCW Standards of TrainingCertification and Watchkeeping for Seafarers, as well
as having obtained an FAA Part oneoh seven Drone certification and an International Association
of Wilderness Guides Jungle Certification. Shealso has a background in student rotor pilot
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training and helicopter pilot training. Lizhas spent the past twenty years in various
positions of international travel and tourism,public relations and marketing, as well as
luxury wellness and medical tourism, bothdomestically and internationally. Charlay yes, preparing
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to le I know that there's somethingyou see in me because I see see
you. I know that there's morethan means the eye, because you ride
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of my world. So we shouldbefore to ever echo, because if the
sky is in no shine. Didn'twe go to win? Someone shot sistemist?
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I know that there's something you seeand with that, welcome to the
show, liz Ah, you welcome. I am so very pressive. Oh
my gosh, wow, you guyslike seeing that video again kind of brought
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a cheer to my eye. Well, speaking of that video, I just
learned that was my fault, soI'm not surprised. And it was a
little bit too big of a file, but it said, uh it want
says the video is as big asher resume. That's that's no exaggeration.
Very yeah, thank you so much, you guys, and for inviting me
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to be part of this incredible conversationand joining you know, the lovers of
outdoors on this podcast. I thinkI think have some fun today. I
think two things lovers of outdoors,but more so lovers of people in general.
And it's really and I'll just saythis, it's not necessarily what people
do, but that's how it's thepeople themselves and we get to that through
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what they do. So it's kindof like a weird backwards sort of thing.
But yeah, and you're very veryimpressive. I mean, gee,
wiz, I can't wait to hear'sabout some of this stuff. So there
you go, oh oh, thankyou. And I was behind stage listening
to how how could I get thatdone? You are I'm not necessarily an
overachiever, but I do live mylife to the fullest. So if I
die tomorrow, I would be okay. I would agree with that. Yes,
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we have so much to learn fromyou. I mean, when I
grow up, I want to bejust like you. Right. If I
be like the half of you,that's okay for me. But don't ever
grow up. Don't do it right. I'm trying whither absolutely with her,
right like Peter Penn, but it'son happy with me. I'm gurling.
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Well, but let's start by youshar as your background in sailing, sure,
of course. So though I didjust complete in almost five thousand mile
ocean race from Australia to Southeast Asia, before that, I hadn't really had
a lot of sailing experience other thanwhat we call champagne sailing on vacations and
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around my home base in the Puget'sSound here in Seattle, where, by
the way, I will get tosee some of my previous crewmates that I
just left in February from the raceas they are coming into Seattle later this
month as a stopover as they continueon that leg around the world. So
anyway, not a lot of sailingbackground, but a love of the ocean
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and I love of the water,of the learning new things and who says
you need to do something? Youknow you don't need to know how to
do it to get started, right, Yeah, that happened with me when
I started playing drugs. I didn'tknow a thing about it, jumped up
and their way you went. Youknow, everybody has to start somewhere,
That's true, right. I sawa picture of you on the mast.
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Go on, man, she surelooks like she knows what she's doing up
there, because that wouldn't be me. I'll tell you that right now.
Yeah, absolutely, all right,So tell us about the ocean yacht race
Clipper around the World. Is that? Yeah? So that's the race that
I just completed, And the Clipperis a well known ocean race that blends
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both experienced and novice sailors to racearound the world while also raising money for
different charities. So for me,taking on this challenge actually began over two
years ago when I found them Doomscrolling online from my next extreme adventure that
would you know, also allow meto gain another skill, because I do
believe that adventures are great, sabbaticalsare great, but it's also best if
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you can combine it with learning something. So I said, Hey, what
the heck, go ahead and doit. I applied to join the crew
in December of twenty twenty one,and over some interviews talking with the team,
I was accepted to be part ofthe crew, and then I began
training over the past previous two yearswith other new inexperienced sealers who were also
joining the race to start in twentytwenty three twenty twenty four. So basically
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I was just looking for an adventurethat would celebrate at the same time me
turning fifty, which just did recentlyhappen. I feel like I'm thirty,
but I am loving my fifties,I have to see. So the twenty
twenty four race that we just didactually coincided with that time perfectly. So
taking on that challenge, specifically Lakefive, which we just finished, has
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been just another new adventure for me, blending my passions of extreme adventure and
then just pushing at boundaries and unfilyour unfamiliar environments. So that's that's part
of what I love. So it'sjust pushing boundaries and mental and physical resilience,
teamwork and all that fun stuff.So yeah, you know, so
let me ask you this, wasthere ever a point that when you get
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into this you said, I'm lookingfor the challenge, I can learn something
fun anyway, never get to wasthere ever a point out there? He
said, what the hell was theythinking? Sure? Absolutely, yeah,
more than once. More than once. Yeah, I mean there are some
really beautiful times where you're just you'reon a three am watch or something,
and you're looking up at these amazingconstellations and all these massive stars in the
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middle of nowhere in the ocean.Everything's dark, and your seven foot clipper
with you know, your crew,that's it, nowhere to go. So
yeah, I did question it sometimes. But then there are just those really
great moments, and then there areother moments where you're just you're exhausted,
or you just I don't want todo this one more day. But you
know, it changes, and itwas a place where I could really proudly
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embrace my status as a novice sailor. So with the team where there were
people who were both sailing a lotof their lives, so there were people
who'd been doing this for most oftheir lives and then others who were newer
sailors like me, So it waskind of a combination. And the clipper
sailing is a very specific style ofsailing on a seventy foot clipper yacht.
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And then we race eleven votes total, are racing throughout the race. Wow.
Co Yes, I'm so impressed thatof you because you just wanted and
then you went for it, likeI don't know how to do, but
I am going to learn. Youalways being like that, like you want
to challenge and then you challenge yourselfand that's about it, you know,
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doesn't you? No normalison, Iwant to challenge, that's all. Like
you always have been like that,I think, so. I mean I
think even as a little kid,when I went to girls Scout camp,
for example, I sold the mostcookies ever, so I got you know,
the award was this horse camp fora week in camping out in the
middle of nowhere, and you know, we were just out doing bonfires and
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riding bareback courses. And I wasnine years old at the time, and
I just kind of like I enjoyedit, you know, and so there
just were lots of things to pursueover a lifetime, you know, there's
Yeah, I think it's always beenthere, but I think I'm definitely embracing
it more and more as I getolder. Yeah, well, Liz,
tell us about your nonprofit organization thatyou started, Well Minded Project. What
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is that? Yeah, So thewell Mined Project is a five oh one
c three that I started that's dedicatedto harnessing therapeutic power of adventure and the
natural world to enhance our mental wellness. So that's I'm a big believer in
that we all encounter challenges. Butin short, the nonprofit provides scholarships to
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people or couples who can for themto attend a venture retreats, expeditions,
wellness getaways that are all folks onimproving mental health and well being, and
that they get a chance to goto those which they may not otherwise be
able to afford. So I believein mental health. That's always it's always
a good conversation to have, especiallyin our society and nowadays, and I'm
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really happy that it's more talked aboutfreely now. So this particularly is relevant
for those seeking to overcome personal obstacles, manage stress, or SIMPLI find a
deeper connection with themselves in the environmentaround them. So that's the focus of
that nonprofit. Very cool, verycool. Oh yeah, I never thought,
oh sorry, I never tarad oftalking how outdoors and sports helped me
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and how I embrace people to dothat as well, because it is it
is a mad scene, it isa therapy and it'll work very well for
me. But for you, howit works for you? So in what
a way these aduventory treats are therapeotickey for you? Yeah? I mean,
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before I worked in more adventure,travel, public relations and marketing like
I do now, I was almostexclusively in the wellness sector, both internationally
and domestically, so I personally gotto enjoy so many beautiful locations and retreats
that were actually my work. Somedays I was like, Wow, this
is what I get to do formy job, right, and these beautiful
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locations. And of course, asa lifelong learner, I'm also she previously
mentioned a certified yoga teacher, groupbusiness instructor and all this, so I
personally dive heavily into wellness and fitnessin my daily life, and so for
me, retreats truly just are adecompression for life overall. And so those
therapeutic benefits are further amplified by themind body physiological physiology and that connection which
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again I'm a big believer in,and the neural plasticity that we have in
our brains and the brain's ability toreorganize itself by forming new neural connections through
out life. When we're just engagingin things like this, activities outdoors,
physical activity and really engaging your bodyto do hard things, it does improve
your mental fitness as well. Sofor me, that is the therapy,
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and I hope to be able todo that for others as well. Liz,
you've hosted a number of wellness andadventure retreats here and I really I'm
just a farm boy. There's alot I don't know. I've been accused
of living in a shoeblax, soI'm not really familiar with these. But
so you why didn't you tell uswhat type of things do these retreats entail?
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What happens there? Oh, itcould be, I mean, use
your imagination. I mean, it'sall about creating something that's just really engaging
for the people and the type ofpeople are coming. So I did do
them. I used to do thatmore and may do it again more in
the future by actually hosting them,but for now I'm just more interested in
enjoying them myself and then working withpartners with the nonprofit and therapists to help
others get on them. But typicallythey would combine things like yoga, movement
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of the body, healthy food,tranquil spaces, and then of course throwing
in some peak bagging or waterfall climbing, skydiving or surfing, maybe something that
fits in with the local areas,such as cultural elements, like we visited
the temples in Bali when we dida retreat there, did the local blessings,
we did the cleansings with the Idon't think you call them shamans with
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the local people there to learn aboutthat country and history, and then we
returned back to the hotel for actualtherapy sessions with certified therapists for everybody to
really get that personal connection in oneon one. So it does vary,
but it's meant to reset the stresssystems and immerse yourself in nature, and
so I'm always looking for more retreatpartners in this area as well. That's
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so cool, very interesting. Itsounds like a lot of fun. So
when you do these therapy sessions yougo back to hotel. This is not
a group session. These are likeyou said, there are, they're both
actually, and I think it's greatfor people to have both because the engagement
is completely different, right, andI think we need both kind of like
group sessions and then with then oneon one and it really just kind of
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goes back to sharing connection, somethingthat a lot of times in our world
we don't have, and you know, really just learning about yourself. So
yeah, those one on ones arealso really important. You know. In
my case, that's a little scarywhen you know there's some things I don't
think I want to know hold aboutmyself, but I just say it,
yeah, oh my gosh. Right, and I am the opposite. I
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am. I'm going to do aterrab session here because I want to figure
out myself. So I have questionshere. Okay, okay, So you
you said that you feel like thirty. I am thirty and I feel like
twelve, and I'm lucky you arenot. I don't know, let's see,
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right, why do you get tobe sixty. Just wait, we'll
talk to you. I think thereisn't there that same where somebody was saying,
like my body, No, mymind feels like I'm thirty. My
sense of humor is like I'm twelve, but my body feels like eighty or
something. That's pretty accurate. That'spretty accurate. Yeah. I like that
all right. I love it.But well, I feel like like twelve
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and I'm thirty, and I'm kindof like you, like, I do
so many different stuffs in my life, and I am wondering here, how
how those different elements in your lifeare connected? How do you connect all
of them? Yeah, it doessometimes seem like I'm doing this and then
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that, and you know, multipledifferent things that are completely disconnected. But
I really don't believe they are.They're always constantly opening up new doors and
new connection each time I'm doing something. Somehow it always kind of filters back
to this connection. I guess forme, it's kind of like being a
lifelong learner. I mean, I'ma multi potential led. I'm sure some
people have heard that term before,multi passionate who loves to pursue many things
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at once. Sometimes that's good.Sometimes that's bad. Maybe it's my ADHD.
I don't know. But so variousactivities spanning adventure, wellness, entrepreneurship,
public relations, marketing, nonprofit work, fitness, outdoors, they all
interconnect to create a cohesive and fulfillingjourney for myself first and foremost, that's
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one thing. And I've been ableto make a career out of it.
I've been able to connect with otherpeople about it, create a nonprofit out
of it. That all kind ofcircle back into the same type of theme
and journey. So somehow, againit just opens up ideas in other areas,
opportunities that continually open and things justcontinue to grow. But I mean
you have to you have to beopen to them. Like so when you
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see that door open, you've gotto step through it, right, So,
I mean, who knows what canhappen on the other side. And
even if it's failure and you're you'regoing to learn some trust me. Well,
speaking of failure, I'll tell youwhat I'm as free curb. I
mean, this is before we go, right before we go to Maya's favorite
part of this program. Speaking offailure, what type of failure have you
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experienced so far? In how didyou handle that situation? Oh wow.
I've had both personal and professional failures, at least what I perceived as failures
at the time, like divorce orshutting down a previous business that was a
pop up luxury based count business becauseit was just way too expensive to run
and make it worthwhile. Even thoughpeople loved it, it just couldn't work
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out. So each of those werein themselves very difficult to get through and
handle, but they again just openedup so many other opportunities that shifted and
redirected me into directions that I probablywouldn't have gone into had I stayed in
those situations or continued to press intothose situations. So it's been great to
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say that they were failures, getthrough that difficult time and leave behind other
things bad relationships or negative people arestruggling in something that wasn't working, and
just let it go and just say, you know, there's no reason for
my ego just to stick stick here, just for that. So I really
did learn to let go. Iguess that's the way of dealing with it.
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So really just leaving it all behind. You know, there are times
when you feel really deflated or unmotivated, but That's also why I loved Seeking
Adventures because it does have that interconnectivity. And I think with the recent ocean
race that was a perfect example ofembracing this. Because you're on the seventy
foot yacht, you're with sixteen otherpeople, there's nowhere to go, You're
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living at twenty four hours a day, I mean literally on rotation, twenty
four hours a day, sleeping fourhours on four on deck and so on,
and you push through it. Youknow you've got wonderful days. And
then they're others. Like we weresaying, you're asking yourself, what am
I doing? You know? Whatam I doing here? Speaking that sounds
a lot like the military at somepoint it's like, you know what I'm
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saying, There can be But Imean, so, I guess the moral
of that story and your question isjust resilience and persistence. That's the way
for me to handle things. Theability to bounce back for me is key,
and I always seem to come backbetter and learn more about myself.
So persisting in my efforts and continuingto take those steps forward sounds simple but
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also hard. It is not steepleat all. Actually, one step at
a time, one step at atime, right like babes steps. But
you know, I'm kind of speechlessbecause I will I want to say how
brave you are, and I amsure people look it up for you.
You know, you are inspiration formany people because sometimes eighties so hard to
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move on and it is so hardto try something new that you don't know
and you see and you face theproblems and think, you know, as
opportunity to grow up as a humanbeing and also make that changes for people
as well. And sometimes like myfriends, they ask me like, oh,
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how could I start to do likea hike. I'm so afraid of
a hike, and I'm like,it is just a hike, you know,
just go out there and do thatand try it out. And you
are doing you are accomplishing like bigstuff, you know, like you were
being in the middle of nowhere doingstuff that you just learn. So that's
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very very very nice of you.That's very encouraging. Thank you so much.
That is so kind of you tosay it's yeah, it's just seeking
adventures. I love it. No, somebody told me once he said,
uh, in fact, there wasthe guy who worked in fact, he
was on the show that was riskyyou remember him, Maya Bill Risk,
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the mushroom guy. He said,uh, he said, Michael Jordan missed
one hundred percent of one hundred percentof the shots he never took. And
I said what And I thought aboutthat. It's so true. Uh,
you don't know unless you try,and and you won't learn anything unless you
try. You still may not learnanything, but the opportunity is there.
There's a pretty good chance you maylearn something. You might find out that
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you're really good at something you didn'tknow, right, like skydiving. Do
you have a story? No,we could have had, but we did.
We don't have that. Yeah,well, well he has, Yeah
he has because he was kind ofprofessional back then. Yeah yeah, no,
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no, no, no, noexactly, you were always fasional.
Well I want to hear that.No, no, not at all.
We may do it again in Californiaif we go out to see Uncle Joe.
Okay, okay, but anyways,I climb, I rock climb,
and I climb like big mountains,and I love like climb BIGI mountains as
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big as better for me. Butalso I am afraid of hips. So
he invited me to to I didn'tknow that. I did not know that,
just so you know, I hada little disclaimer. Yeah, so
he invited me, and I waslike, oh my gosh, so afraid.
I don't know if I can dothat, but you know, I
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kind of forget regret. I'm goingto try, and I let you know.
There's a little Jackie Gleeson in there. When I said this guy diving
in my own, yeah, Iwas like my heads, my heads were
like sweating. Oh my gosh,I'm going to jump from a plane.
Yeah, we don't want to sendyou home in a body bagger like that.
But yeah, I get it,totally get it, totally get it.
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Well, you'll have to let meknow next time, because I do
love some skydiving too. I actuallyI think just last year my tailbone healed
from one of my not so goodland yeah, because I was I was
learning my solo jumps and so yeah, there was one that just did not
come down as well. As I'venever done a tandem, I've only done
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a solo, I didn't. Idon't. I don't know if I trust
a tandem person. I don't know. Maybe I trust him, but I
just feel weird. I don't know. We never had that option. We
threw of Us, threw us outof a plane, static Lanta. Your
first few jumps and good luck.So so yes, let's try the Tree
of Us. And also we cannotinvite the Hawaii guy who bayed the jump
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as well. Yeah, absolutely,we can go to Hawaii try it out.
I'm not base jumping. That justsounds entirely too dangerous. But no,
thank you for that. Yeah that'strue. Yeah, Joe Jennings,
we could jump in a car andall go out together like we could sit
in the car, do it.I think that's cool. All right,
maya, sorry, take your stickyour thunder here, go ahead? Sorry,
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no, yeah, okay, that'sthat's my time of the show.
That's my favorite five So I alwayslet me say, let's check it.
Let's see the picture of the photos. There we go, walk Star pictures.
I love that. Those are howmany boats you said eleven or something
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like that. That us what we'relooking at her list. Yes, those
are the classic seventy foot clippers rightthere, and those are all lined up
in a row. Look how beautifulthey are. Wow? And do they
fire a gun when you start orsomebody way of sometimes they do? I
mean, it really just depends onthe Porthost. There's always a big celebration.
Every porthost does amazing, amazing hostingfor us, and there's always celebrations.
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So it really depends, uh,that is it is a compressive looks
like a track meat or maybe anauto. It is kind of a track
meat. You're right, right,right? I like that cool. That's
beautiful. Yeah, a little sunset. That one was very chilly, yes,
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but I'm on the way over fromAustralia to China. It was actually
quite hot. So we were inshorts and swimsuits and dumping buckets of water
over our head and trying to staystay halfway hydrated. So oh sorry,
go ahead, no, no,no, go ahead, Mike, go
ahead. And it was like arandom question, Well, is there heat
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on those I'm just gonna ask isthere heat on those boats? Or no?
How would you get heat unless itwas electric heat or something like that.
No, there's no heat. There'sthere's a generator and that sometimes turned
on for certain things. But nowin the cold legs, which they're actually
one doing one right now, it'svery very cold on the way back over
here to Seattle. You use yourfolly's so you are just you are in
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your you're in your gear, you'rein your water rain gear, and that's
how you operate. Sometimes that's whatyou're sleeping in. You're up deck on
down below, and if you wantto stay warm, that's where you're at.
They're not easy to get on.A fallily is basically like a very
thick specific uh waterproof suit, nota dry suit, but it does keep
you dry. Is that what thoseguys on the big the big freighters are
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wearing when they're standing on deck anddoing all that? Yep, yep,
a version of that or when yousee the Deadliest Catch or something like that.
Yeah, big, exactly. Yeah, So that's what we use when
it's cold. And how do youshower? There's no showers? Okay,
it's called a wipe down with somesome body wipes and that what my month
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long was a baby wipe body shower. Really no showers. That's interesting,
I mean, is that there's noshower on any sailboat or just not these
sailboats. Not these sailboats. Yeah, space is very limited, so that
that's a shower. Who needs that? Interesting? But go ahead, go
ahead, No, No, it'sjust a comment like outdoors people do that,
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like we don't shower in the mountainas well, So that's that's nothing
less to care, that's true.And everybody, Yeah, if everybody smells,
nobody cares. Everybody knows the difference, right, it's just but I
noticed, well we're gonna see thatin the second. But I mean you,
I I think it just looks likethere's a lot of space here,
but maybe I'm obviously mistaken. Soyeah, I mean they do seem kind
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of spacious when you've got the photoswith the with the longer lens or that
wider, you know shot, Butthey they're not small, but they're not
they're not huge either. So there'snot a wet barrow, no, no
interesting Okay, you are just tryingto stay hydrated with the water that comes
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through the water maker and those longs, that's for sure. Yeah, it's
it's like Arabian big pictures. Yousee the pictures and like, oh my
gosh, it's such a big house. It's so beautiful, and then when
you go there, that is sogood. Photography always matters. Crew looks
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like great, Well that was yeah, one of my training crews. So
that was, like I said,we trained for the two years prior to
the actual race, and so thiswas one of my training crews in the
UK. I've met so many justgreat teammates and interesting people from all over
the world. I mean it's aninternational race. People come from South Africa,
Sweden, Australia, United States,UK. Everybody is on board,
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different people training, so you don'tyou never know who you're gonna get paired
up with. And that's that's thebest part of outdoors. You can connect,
like do real connection with real people. Yes that that are in the
same situation as you are, Likethey made the same crazy decision to make
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this choice with this particular adventure,right. So yeah, whatever you're doing
where there's outdoors peak bagging your skydivingthere, there's a camaraderie there and you
you are going through this yourself,so s to get put together the same
in your case, you guys arein the same boat. Yes, yes,
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I mean, no pun intended.I'll be here all week. Yeah,
tip your server right right mine thisit's get to drive the boat.
I love it. That's a big, big memory I took when we were
we did an episode in Florida.We took a sailboat to cruise those I
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don't what you call them wheel,I call them steering wheel. Those things
are huge. And does it takethat much strength? Is that why it
has so big? So you havethe leverage or what's the deal on that?
No power? Steering? Yeah,it just it depends. I mean,
so it is quite large on thehelm, and it depends on what
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you're selling against. You know,if you've got large ways, and yeah,
you are going to be moving thatthing really fast, back and forth,
very quickly. And most of thetime you can maneuver it with slight
and very gentle kind of back andforth touch. Just watching that navigation if
you're doing it by like guiding bythe stars, or you're guiding by you
know, some type of sight oryou know something in front of you,
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or you're doing it by compass.So it really just depends on the sea
conditions what it comes down to.I love that big garment satellite thing in
the back of your boat there.That looks pretty damn fancy. You notice
that, I'm guessing they're not watchinglike television or anything like that on that
thing. We didn't get to streamany Netflix, no, but we do
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have to stay and stay in touchwith home base. So that's why that's
there. I don't even know wantto know what that costs. But that
looks cool. I mean, it'sit's awesome. But we have that technology
out there. And the render question, I have ever thought about doing that
in Brazil because we have beautiful beachesin ocean. Oh you guys should uh,
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I don't know. I think that, I think they should. You
should host it? Do we havea man overboard here? What is that?
Well, that's training for a manoverboard. Yes, that's me me
trying to kick off the side ofthe boat to give myself more leverage to
reach who we call Bob, that'sthe dummy. And then I love that.
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I love that, Oh my gosh, Bob. Well, no,
not in this particular waters with thistraining, but I'm sure some of some
of the waters do. But Ihave you know, you've got your dry
suit on, you got your protectionon, and your tied to the boat,
and then you're trying to kick off. You can grab that mmy,
wrap your legs and arms around it, hook your your harness onto it,
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and then you both get pulled backup onto the deaths. It's fun.
Yeah, I'm sure. Oh wow, that's so cool. I bet it
is cold. Yeah, there's morehelming that wheel that wheels almost as tall
as me. It looks like soprofessional. I love it, like so
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rockstar, so fenceive it, youknow, like so very concentrated, very
concentrated. And you're in shorts hereand now I was taking Yeah, but
is it not cold or that wascoming over from Australia, so it was
very hot and the only reason Icovered on top is so that they don't
get sunburned. So strong. Yeah, interesting, and there's our crew coming
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over from Australia. That's one ofour watch because you do split watches,
and so the others are down below, probably sleeping, and this is us
trying to catch one of those sunsets. Get along on these trips, you
get for the time most of thereyou go, yeah, most of the
time. Most we had a reallygood crew. Everybody pretty much got along,
so there wasn't any major things,but yeah, that that happens.
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You know, people have different personalitiesand this is definitely a space where you
know, you you deal with thesituations and the conflicts and you deal with
multi, multiple different personalities. Ofcourse, you were just hide and still
like stash a bottle of something onthe trip, when you're you know,
I would have to do that.I'm sorry, maybe I'm an alcoholic,
but I would have to do that. I would have to bring the first
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of all, you would immediately getin a lot of trouble. There's no
drinking on board. It's dry,of course, because you're you're responsible.
You know, to be on watchtwenty four hours a day and the boat
runs twenty four hours a day,and there really is no space to kind
of go hide. I mean,you can you fling yourself into your bunk
and tie up your lee cloth sothat you know that, which is what
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you do to tie yourself into yourbunks. You don't fall out, and
the boat is, you know,kind of going back and forth, and
so you do have kind of yourspaceically sit in there and read or listen
to some music or something like that. So that's kind of what you do
on your downtime if you're not sleeping. But most of the time on your
downtime you are sleeping if you're noton deck. I'm just thinking like a
nightcap, so you could sleep,and maybe that's not a you're so tired
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you're not even concerned. I mean, you're going to sleep in any situation
with this. I mean I wassleeping, like you are, below the
waterline pounding they're doing you know,rotations and evolutions on the deck. It's
all kinds of noise. Oh man. Yeah. I mean at one point
I was asleep and awoken because asquall came in and there's just you know,
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banging and screaming, and they're pullingsales down and you know, I'm
planking myself across the uh from mybed pinned in there against it because the
boat was so keeled over, andI'm planking myself across, trying to hold
the portal closed with my foot becausean ocean of water was coming through onto
the bed. It was Those arefun times. Those are fun times.
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But you know we mod with that. I think I was at that point.
No, I was just trying tocapture some photos and video because it
was really interesting. Yeah, butyou know, your crew on deck is
professional and they're handled it like pros, and that's what happens. Sometimes.
You know, you hit us wallthat you don't expect or something like that.
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But we had some some pretty smoothselling as you can see by the
sunset. Oh went, Yeah,I had to go up to the ninety
five foot mask to get that shot. It was fun. We did a
three hundred and sixty degree video withthe three entred sixty degree camera and grab
some footage up there. See,that's the one I was talking about at
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the beginning. I was saying,when you're climbing the mask there, man,
that's just that's impressive. I mean, you look it looks like I'm
enjoying myself, right. You looklike alignment from the power Company actually up
there, minus the toolbuilt of course, but I love it. And you
really is like climb equipment. Threedo you what you you use like a
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climb equipment? Like, yes,yeah, you're exactly you're harnessed in and
they pull you up as you're climbing. Yeah, exactly. That's very This
is where completion here. What No, that's just another one of the another
shot of the boats at the beginning. Yeah, ours is the blue one.
I think this was before we startedactually thinking are blue ones faster than
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yellow ones? Ur was? Wecame in third place out of eleven on
my legs, so that's pretty good. That's pretty good. Yeah, top
three out. Just more more morehailming. You love it, do you
know who you look like right here, Angelina Jolie. Is it the glasses?
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I think it's both. I thinkit's it's just the whole, the
look, the glasses, the theyour face, the lips, everything,
you know, everything. Well,I'll take it. I'll take it.
Thanks. Yeah, I would say, you know, I would say,
that's who you look like. It'sjust me. Yeah, yes, there's
there's the winning crew that is Yeah, that is at the finish line basically
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as we came into Southeast Asia.Yep, these are the people that beat
you guys. What that's us?I was going to say, you said
the winning Okay, so you didn'tget first place, but still, okay,
I guess it. Yes, yes, that's us coming. I thought
that looks for those guys to comelook familiar. I go, that's okay,
Well she didn't get first so maybeit is the other crew. Well
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that's it, that's the awesome crew. How's that? Yes, that is
an awesome crew. I seriously havemet some of the coolest people through this
community of sailing. Are these peoplelike married like you know and everything too.
I mean these are husband wife teamseither, like they leave their spouse
at home for these trips. I'msure right, yeah, yeah, and
some of them are selling the fullyear, uh kind of yeah, and
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they they just work it out,you know, they're they're spossible come and
travel to each location when they're inport and meet them. And yeah.
So lots of people have you know, families and kids and jobs. They're
taking sabbaticals from like I did andyou know, left my my agency and
said, you know what got by? I got this is this is great
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for my mental health. I'm goingto be refreshedhen I come back from which
is so cool. I love it, man, I love it. I'm
sorry I'm talking too much. We'rewinding down on five minutes. I got
to let you guys do your thing, just working on board, dumping photos
and you got to work wherever youcan. Yeah, and everybody else has
to do the same. I'm sureright. They got to do their jobs.
If they're online, they can dothat, you know, their job,
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you're setting photos back to home base. Yeah, that's so cool.
I love your cat. Thank you. I know right, yes, I
call her two. I was tryingto figure out what it is if I
know the point, Well, I'lltell you what that this looks awesome.
I really am disappointed that you can'tbring a bottle of something just for you
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know, But otherwise it looks fantastic. I think it would be a cool
type of adventure, something I've neverdone before. So yeah, yeah,
I love it all of them,and I really want to try once.
Actually I think I would do thehammock though, like gilligansion, you know,
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so you can go whatever. Youdon't have to get pinned up against
anything. You just kind of thedifference. I love it, all right,
Well that's fantastic, all right,moving right along. If you could
offer last question here, well weget two, but last one's pretty sure.
If you if you could offer anypiece of life advice to someone,
what would it be in one minuteor less? How's that sure? One
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minute or less? Let's see ifI could put it into one line,
I would say, if you speakingup causes problems, then your environment is
benefiting from your silence period. SoI truly believe in that once you learn
to understand yourself and listen to yourselfand your intuition and you do speak up,
amazing things can happen. So goahead and say the thing. I
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mean, really, the only peoplewho are going to hate on you or
are usually those people who aren't goinganywhere, and those are the ones who
are going to be something negative toyou, but you don't want their opinion
anyway, so speak up. Itreally is. It is, Yes,
there really is, because you knowwhen your mind is free, you are
you really are free if you don'tcare and you if you live your life
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any or not look for please peopleand you are looking for please yourself.
That's like the true freedom. SoI am totally with you. If you
can type it up for me andsand and then I don't forget it.
Thank you. So I'll put iton a I'll put it on a T
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shirt for you. I love it. Yeah. Well, when where can
people can find you online and compactto you? Yeah? Absolutely. People
can always email me at Liz atLiz Galloway dot com or go ahead and
reach out to me at the WellMined Project dot org or Brandsanitymedia dot com.
(45:44):
So feel free to reach out.Very cool. Liz. Want to
thank you very much for being ourguest tonight. What a great life you've
had in great story you have,and thank you for sharing some of that
ones. I really really appreciate thatpleasure of having you here with Yes,
it's been amazing. Thank you both. Thank you. It was like a
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whol a feel for my spirit.Absolutely, thank you very much for sharing
your life and your eduventary with us. Yeah, and we also want to
thank our audience for tuning in tonight'sshow. Be sure to tune in for
next week's episode, Spanish Superwoman withour guest Irene Square along with Maya Marzaki.
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Welcome to outdoors people with me.Cw Getz and her Maya mar Zaki.
Good evening. It's Wednesday, Apriltenth, twenty twenty four. We've got
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a beautiful and I do me beautifulsixty five degree fahrenheit nineteen degrees celsius day
here in north central Illinois. Beatthat, miss Marzaki. I am so
jealous. Oh my gosh, Iknew you would be. I am very
jellos here. It is so hotwith twenty six degrees celsius and it means
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seven to eight degrees. Oh mygod, you really think that's hot.
Oh my gosh, that's too much. And it's so shouldn't be so hot.
You need to come to Illinois inthe summertime. You'll have ninety five
percent humidity. With ninety eight degreesone hundred degrees, you will be miserable.
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And well, the summer in Brazilis like worse than that. But
I mean it's falls. Should bechiller, but not it is still hot.
Yeah. I think you need corndown there, more corn. You've
got corn, but you need morecorn to cool that place off in the
fall. That's what happens. Ohyeah, sure, it's more forest.
That's what you need. People herein Brazil it is like killing their rain
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forest so that it's like so hot. Yeah, mister Garcia in Florida,
Florida, eighty degrees eighty degrees.That's that's nice too. It's perfect.
There was eighty six during the dayhere, he said, So stop complaining.
My gosh, no, I wenton my fall. I want a
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where are you? I love it? Hey, I mowed my lawn today
for the first time, and somethingvery strange happened. I'm mowing my ditches
and that's ditches with a D andI all of a sudden, I saw
this credit card. I go,whoa dude? So I picked it up
and it had this young lady's name. Well I don't know young lady,
(02:44):
but she was a girl's name onit. I found out she was a
young lady. But all of asudden, there's another credit card, and
another credit card, and another creditcard, and then a wallet, the
entire wallet, and then actually wayup in my yarn, I found another
credit card. Later, I go, this girl, I got to get
this, you know, get holdof her. Well, fortunately her driver's
license was in there, you know, no major money, so I can't
(03:05):
retire yet. But anyway, thewhole thing is I told my ups man
with such a small community, andhe called someone got her phone number right
off the bat, and they immediatelycalled me. She lost it in Halloween.
So yeah, it's been a while, win absolutely so. Yeah,
so it's just funny. But thisthis girl will be united with her wallet
(03:29):
and her credit cards as soon astomorrow, so he plans to return it
to her. So yeah, goodfor her, Good for her. It
was in your yard, I know, right, the chances of that being
in my yard and not down theroad and you know the cornfield are right.
Well, well, let's meet tonight'sguest fifty year old public relations and
(03:51):
marketing expert. Liz Galloway grew upin Salt Lake City, Utah. While
attending universities in Utah and in internationalonline programs while living overseas, she earned
degrees in pre law, business andHospitality and Aviation administration. Liz also achieved
certifications in yoga and group fitness,and she's licensed in Therapeutic Massage, RYA
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Essential Navigation Seamanship STCW Standards of TrainingCertification and Watchkeeping for Seafarers, as well
as having obtained an FAA Part oneoh seven Drone certification and an International Association
of Wilderness Guides Jungle Certification. Shealso has a background in student rotor pilot
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training and helicopter pilot training. Lizhas spent the past twenty years in various
positions of international travel and tourism,public relations and marketing, as well as
luxury wellness and medical tourism, bothdomestically and internationally. Charlay yes, preparing
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to le I know that there's somethingyou see in me because I see see
you. I know that there's morethan means the eye, because you ride
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of my world. So we shouldbefore to ever echo, because if the
sky is in no shine. Didn'twe go to win? Someone shot sistemist?
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I know that there's something you seeand with that, welcome to the
show, liz Ah, you welcome. I am so very pressive. Oh
my gosh, wow, you guyslike seeing that video again kind of brought
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a cheer to my eye. Well, speaking of that video, I just
learned that was my fault, soI'm not surprised. And it was a
little bit too big of a file, but it said, uh it want
says the video is as big asher resume. That's that's no exaggeration.
Very yeah, thank you so much, you guys, and for inviting me
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to be part of this incredible conversationand joining you know, the lovers of
outdoors on this podcast. I thinkI think have some fun today. I
think two things lovers of outdoors,but more so lovers of people in general.
And it's really and I'll just saythis, it's not necessarily what people
do, but that's how it's thepeople themselves and we get to that through
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what they do. So it's kindof like a weird backwards sort of thing.
But yeah, and you're very veryimpressive. I mean, gee,
wiz, I can't wait to hear'sabout some of this stuff. So there
you go, oh oh, thankyou. And I was behind stage listening
to how how could I get thatdone? You are I'm not necessarily an
overachiever, but I do live mylife to the fullest. So if I
die tomorrow, I would be okay. I would agree with that. Yes,
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we have so much to learn fromyou. I mean, when I
grow up, I want to bejust like you. Right. If I
be like the half of you,that's okay for me. But don't ever
grow up. Don't do it right. I'm trying whither absolutely with her,
right like Peter Penn, but it'son happy with me. I'm gurling.
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Well, but let's start by youshar as your background in sailing, sure,
of course. So though I didjust complete in almost five thousand mile
ocean race from Australia to Southeast Asia, before that, I hadn't really had
a lot of sailing experience other thanwhat we call champagne sailing on vacations and
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around my home base in the Puget'sSound here in Seattle, where, by
the way, I will get tosee some of my previous crewmates that I
just left in February from the raceas they are coming into Seattle later this
month as a stopover as they continueon that leg around the world. So
anyway, not a lot of sailingbackground, but a love of the ocean
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and I love of the water,of the learning new things and who says
you need to do something? Youknow you don't need to know how to
do it to get started, right, Yeah, that happened with me when
I started playing drugs. I didn'tknow a thing about it, jumped up
and their way you went. Youknow, everybody has to start somewhere,
That's true, right. I sawa picture of you on the mast.
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Go on, man, she surelooks like she knows what she's doing up
there, because that wouldn't be me. I'll tell you that right now.
Yeah, absolutely, all right,So tell us about the ocean yacht race
Clipper around the World. Is that? Yeah? So that's the race that
I just completed, And the Clipperis a well known ocean race that blends
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both experienced and novice sailors to racearound the world while also raising money for
different charities. So for me,taking on this challenge actually began over two
years ago when I found them Doomscrolling online from my next extreme adventure that
would you know, also allow meto gain another skill, because I do
believe that adventures are great, sabbaticalsare great, but it's also best if
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you can combine it with learning something. So I said, Hey, what
the heck, go ahead and doit. I applied to join the crew
in December of twenty twenty one,and over some interviews talking with the team,
I was accepted to be part ofthe crew, and then I began
training over the past previous two yearswith other new inexperienced sealers who were also
joining the race to start in twentytwenty three twenty twenty four. So basically
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I was just looking for an adventurethat would celebrate at the same time me
turning fifty, which just did recentlyhappen. I feel like I'm thirty,
but I am loving my fifties,I have to see. So the twenty
twenty four race that we just didactually coincided with that time perfectly. So
taking on that challenge, specifically Lakefive, which we just finished, has
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been just another new adventure for me, blending my passions of extreme adventure and
then just pushing at boundaries and unfilyour unfamiliar environments. So that's that's part
of what I love. So it'sjust pushing boundaries and mental and physical resilience,
teamwork and all that fun stuff.So yeah, you know, so
let me ask you this, wasthere ever a point that when you get
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into this you said, I'm lookingfor the challenge, I can learn something
fun anyway, never get to wasthere ever a point out there? He
said, what the hell was theythinking? Sure? Absolutely, yeah,
more than once. More than once. Yeah, I mean there are some
really beautiful times where you're just you'reon a three am watch or something,
and you're looking up at these amazingconstellations and all these massive stars in the
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middle of nowhere in the ocean.Everything's dark, and your seven foot clipper
with you know, your crew,that's it, nowhere to go. So
yeah, I did question it sometimes. But then there are just those really
great moments, and then there areother moments where you're just you're exhausted,
or you just I don't want todo this one more day. But you
know, it changes, and itwas a place where I could really proudly
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embrace my status as a novice sailor. So with the team where there were
people who were both sailing a lotof their lives, so there were people
who'd been doing this for most oftheir lives and then others who were newer
sailors like me, So it waskind of a combination. And the clipper
sailing is a very specific style ofsailing on a seventy foot clipper yacht.
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And then we race eleven votes total, are racing throughout the race. Wow.
Co Yes, I'm so impressed thatof you because you just wanted and
then you went for it, likeI don't know how to do, but
I am going to learn. Youalways being like that, like you want
to challenge and then you challenge yourselfand that's about it, you know,
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doesn't you? No normalison, Iwant to challenge, that's all. Like
you always have been like that,I think, so. I mean I
think even as a little kid,when I went to girls Scout camp,
for example, I sold the mostcookies ever, so I got you know,
the award was this horse camp fora week in camping out in the
middle of nowhere, and you know, we were just out doing bonfires and
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riding bareback courses. And I wasnine years old at the time, and
I just kind of like I enjoyedit, you know, and so there
just were lots of things to pursueover a lifetime, you know, there's
Yeah, I think it's always beenthere, but I think I'm definitely embracing
it more and more as I getolder. Yeah, well, Liz,
tell us about your nonprofit organization thatyou started, Well Minded Project. What
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is that? Yeah, So thewell Mined Project is a five oh one
c three that I started that's dedicatedto harnessing therapeutic power of adventure and the
natural world to enhance our mental wellness. So that's I'm a big believer in
that we all encounter challenges. Butin short, the nonprofit provides scholarships to
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people or couples who can for themto attend a venture retreats, expeditions,
wellness getaways that are all folks onimproving mental health and well being, and
that they get a chance to goto those which they may not otherwise be
able to afford. So I believein mental health. That's always it's always
a good conversation to have, especiallyin our society and nowadays, and I'm
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really happy that it's more talked aboutfreely now. So this particularly is relevant
for those seeking to overcome personal obstacles, manage stress, or SIMPLI find a
deeper connection with themselves in the environmentaround them. So that's the focus of
that nonprofit. Very cool, verycool. Oh yeah, I never thought,
oh sorry, I never tarad oftalking how outdoors and sports helped me
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and how I embrace people to dothat as well, because it is it
is a mad scene, it isa therapy and it'll work very well for
me. But for you, howit works for you? So in what
a way these aduventory treats are therapeotickey for you? Yeah? I mean,
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before I worked in more adventure,travel, public relations and marketing like
I do now, I was almostexclusively in the wellness sector, both internationally
and domestically, so I personally gotto enjoy so many beautiful locations and retreats
that were actually my work. Somedays I was like, Wow, this
is what I get to do formy job, right, and these beautiful
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locations. And of course, asa lifelong learner, I'm also she previously
mentioned a certified yoga teacher, groupbusiness instructor and all this, so I
personally dive heavily into wellness and fitnessin my daily life, and so for
me, retreats truly just are adecompression for life overall. And so those
therapeutic benefits are further amplified by themind body physiological physiology and that connection which
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again I'm a big believer in,and the neural plasticity that we have in
our brains and the brain's ability toreorganize itself by forming new neural connections through
out life. When we're just engagingin things like this, activities outdoors,
physical activity and really engaging your bodyto do hard things, it does improve
your mental fitness as well. Sofor me, that is the therapy,
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and I hope to be able todo that for others as well. Liz,
you've hosted a number of wellness andadventure retreats here and I really I'm
just a farm boy. There's alot I don't know. I've been accused
of living in a shoeblax, soI'm not really familiar with these. But
so you why didn't you tell uswhat type of things do these retreats entail?
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What happens there? Oh, itcould be, I mean, use
your imagination. I mean, it'sall about creating something that's just really engaging
for the people and the type ofpeople are coming. So I did do
them. I used to do thatmore and may do it again more in
the future by actually hosting them,but for now I'm just more interested in
enjoying them myself and then working withpartners with the nonprofit and therapists to help
others get on them. But typicallythey would combine things like yoga, movement
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of the body, healthy food,tranquil spaces, and then of course throwing
in some peak bagging or waterfall climbing, skydiving or surfing, maybe something that
fits in with the local areas,such as cultural elements, like we visited
the temples in Bali when we dida retreat there, did the local blessings,
we did the cleansings with the Idon't think you call them shamans with
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the local people there to learn aboutthat country and history, and then we
returned back to the hotel for actualtherapy sessions with certified therapists for everybody to
really get that personal connection in oneon one. So it does vary,
but it's meant to reset the stresssystems and immerse yourself in nature, and
so I'm always looking for more retreatpartners in this area as well. That's
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so cool, very interesting. Itsounds like a lot of fun. So
when you do these therapy sessions yougo back to hotel. This is not
a group session. These are likeyou said, there are, they're both
actually, and I think it's greatfor people to have both because the engagement
is completely different, right, andI think we need both kind of like
group sessions and then with then oneon one and it really just kind of
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goes back to sharing connection, somethingthat a lot of times in our world
we don't have, and you know, really just learning about yourself. So
yeah, those one on ones arealso really important. You know. In
my case, that's a little scarywhen you know there's some things I don't
think I want to know hold aboutmyself, but I just say it,
yeah, oh my gosh. Right, and I am the opposite. I
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am. I'm going to do aterrab session here because I want to figure
out myself. So I have questionshere. Okay, okay, So you
you said that you feel like thirty. I am thirty and I feel like
twelve, and I'm lucky you arenot. I don't know, let's see,
(18:59):
right, why do you get tobe sixty. Just wait, we'll
talk to you. I think thereisn't there that same where somebody was saying,
like my body, No, mymind feels like I'm thirty. My
sense of humor is like I'm twelve, but my body feels like eighty or
something. That's pretty accurate. That'spretty accurate. Yeah. I like that
all right. I love it.But well, I feel like like twelve
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and I'm thirty, and I'm kindof like you, like, I do
so many different stuffs in my life, and I am wondering here, how
how those different elements in your lifeare connected? How do you connect all
of them? Yeah, it doessometimes seem like I'm doing this and then
(19:45):
that, and you know, multipledifferent things that are completely disconnected. But
I really don't believe they are.They're always constantly opening up new doors and
new connection each time I'm doing something. Somehow it always kind of filters back
to this connection. I guess forme, it's kind of like being a
lifelong learner. I mean, I'ma multi potential led. I'm sure some
people have heard that term before,multi passionate who loves to pursue many things
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at once. Sometimes that's good.Sometimes that's bad. Maybe it's my ADHD.
I don't know. But so variousactivities spanning adventure, wellness, entrepreneurship,
public relations, marketing, nonprofit work, fitness, outdoors, they all
interconnect to create a cohesive and fulfillingjourney for myself first and foremost, that's
(20:30):
one thing. And I've been ableto make a career out of it.
I've been able to connect with otherpeople about it, create a nonprofit out
of it. That all kind ofcircle back into the same type of theme
and journey. So somehow, againit just opens up ideas in other areas,
opportunities that continually open and things justcontinue to grow. But I mean
you have to you have to beopen to them. Like so when you
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see that door open, you've gotto step through it, right, So,
I mean, who knows what canhappen on the other side. And
even if it's failure and you're you'regoing to learn some trust me. Well,
speaking of failure, I'll tell youwhat I'm as free curb. I
mean, this is before we go, right before we go to Maya's favorite
part of this program. Speaking offailure, what type of failure have you
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experienced so far? In how didyou handle that situation? Oh wow.
I've had both personal and professional failures, at least what I perceived as failures
at the time, like divorce orshutting down a previous business that was a
pop up luxury based count business becauseit was just way too expensive to run
and make it worthwhile. Even thoughpeople loved it, it just couldn't work
(21:36):
out. So each of those werein themselves very difficult to get through and
handle, but they again just openedup so many other opportunities that shifted and
redirected me into directions that I probablywouldn't have gone into had I stayed in
those situations or continued to press intothose situations. So it's been great to
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say that they were failures, getthrough that difficult time and leave behind other
things bad relationships or negative people arestruggling in something that wasn't working, and
just let it go and just say, you know, there's no reason for
my ego just to stick stick here, just for that. So I really
did learn to let go. Iguess that's the way of dealing with it.
(22:23):
So really just leaving it all behind. You know, there are times
when you feel really deflated or unmotivated, but That's also why I loved Seeking
Adventures because it does have that interconnectivity. And I think with the recent ocean
race that was a perfect example ofembracing this. Because you're on the seventy
foot yacht, you're with sixteen otherpeople, there's nowhere to go, You're
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living at twenty four hours a day, I mean literally on rotation, twenty
four hours a day, sleeping fourhours on four on deck and so on,
and you push through it. Youknow you've got wonderful days. And
then they're others. Like we weresaying, you're asking yourself, what am
I doing? You know? Whatam I doing here? Speaking that sounds
a lot like the military at somepoint it's like, you know what I'm
(23:10):
saying, There can be But Imean, so, I guess the moral
of that story and your question isjust resilience and persistence. That's the way
for me to handle things. Theability to bounce back for me is key,
and I always seem to come backbetter and learn more about myself.
So persisting in my efforts and continuingto take those steps forward sounds simple but
(23:33):
also hard. It is not steepleat all. Actually, one step at
a time, one step at atime, right like babes steps. But
you know, I'm kind of speechlessbecause I will I want to say how
brave you are, and I amsure people look it up for you.
You know, you are inspiration formany people because sometimes eighties so hard to
(24:00):
move on and it is so hardto try something new that you don't know
and you see and you face theproblems and think, you know, as
opportunity to grow up as a humanbeing and also make that changes for people
as well. And sometimes like myfriends, they ask me like, oh,
(24:25):
how could I start to do likea hike. I'm so afraid of
a hike, and I'm like,it is just a hike, you know,
just go out there and do thatand try it out. And you
are doing you are accomplishing like bigstuff, you know, like you were
being in the middle of nowhere doingstuff that you just learn. So that's
(24:48):
very very very nice of you.That's very encouraging. Thank you so much.
That is so kind of you tosay it's yeah, it's just seeking
adventures. I love it. No, somebody told me once he said,
uh, in fact, there wasthe guy who worked in fact, he
was on the show that was riskyyou remember him, Maya Bill Risk,
(25:11):
the mushroom guy. He said,uh, he said, Michael Jordan missed
one hundred percent of one hundred percentof the shots he never took. And
I said what And I thought aboutthat. It's so true. Uh,
you don't know unless you try,and and you won't learn anything unless you
try. You still may not learnanything, but the opportunity is there.
There's a pretty good chance you maylearn something. You might find out that
(25:33):
you're really good at something you didn'tknow, right, like skydiving. Do
you have a story? No,we could have had, but we did.
We don't have that. Yeah,well, well he has, Yeah
he has because he was kind ofprofessional back then. Yeah yeah, no,
(25:56):
no, no, no, noexactly, you were always fasional.
Well I want to hear that.No, no, not at all.
We may do it again in Californiaif we go out to see Uncle Joe.
Okay, okay, but anyways,I climb, I rock climb,
and I climb like big mountains,and I love like climb BIGI mountains as
(26:18):
big as better for me. Butalso I am afraid of hips. So
he invited me to to I didn'tknow that. I did not know that,
just so you know, I hada little disclaimer. Yeah, so
he invited me, and I waslike, oh my gosh, so afraid.
I don't know if I can dothat, but you know, I
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kind of forget regret. I'm goingto try, and I let you know.
There's a little Jackie Gleeson in there. When I said this guy diving
in my own, yeah, Iwas like my heads, my heads were
like sweating. Oh my gosh,I'm going to jump from a plane.
Yeah, we don't want to sendyou home in a body bagger like that.
But yeah, I get it,totally get it, totally get it.
(27:02):
Well, you'll have to let meknow next time, because I do
love some skydiving too. I actuallyI think just last year my tailbone healed
from one of my not so goodland yeah, because I was I was
learning my solo jumps and so yeah, there was one that just did not
come down as well. As I'venever done a tandem, I've only done
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a solo, I didn't. Idon't. I don't know if I trust
a tandem person. I don't know. Maybe I trust him, but I
just feel weird. I don't know. We never had that option. We
threw of Us, threw us outof a plane, static Lanta. Your
first few jumps and good luck.So so yes, let's try the Tree
of Us. And also we cannotinvite the Hawaii guy who bayed the jump
(27:47):
as well. Yeah, absolutely,we can go to Hawaii try it out.
I'm not base jumping. That justsounds entirely too dangerous. But no,
thank you for that. Yeah that'strue. Yeah, Joe Jennings,
we could jump in a car andall go out together like we could sit
in the car, do it.I think that's cool. All right,
maya, sorry, take your stickyour thunder here, go ahead? Sorry,
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no, yeah, okay, that'sthat's my time of the show.
That's my favorite five So I alwayslet me say, let's check it.
Let's see the picture of the photos. There we go, walk Star pictures.
I love that. Those are howmany boats you said eleven or something
(28:33):
like that. That us what we'relooking at her list. Yes, those
are the classic seventy foot clippers rightthere, and those are all lined up
in a row. Look how beautifulthey are. Wow? And do they
fire a gun when you start orsomebody way of sometimes they do? I
mean, it really just depends onthe Porthost. There's always a big celebration.
Every porthost does amazing, amazing hostingfor us, and there's always celebrations.
(28:57):
So it really depends, uh,that is it is a compressive looks
like a track meat or maybe anauto. It is kind of a track
meat. You're right, right,right? I like that cool. That's
beautiful. Yeah, a little sunset. That one was very chilly, yes,
(29:21):
but I'm on the way over fromAustralia to China. It was actually
quite hot. So we were inshorts and swimsuits and dumping buckets of water
over our head and trying to staystay halfway hydrated. So oh sorry,
go ahead, no, no,no, go ahead, Mike, go
ahead. And it was like arandom question, Well, is there heat
(29:45):
on those I'm just gonna ask isthere heat on those boats? Or no?
How would you get heat unless itwas electric heat or something like that.
No, there's no heat. There'sthere's a generator and that sometimes turned
on for certain things. But nowin the cold legs, which they're actually
one doing one right now, it'svery very cold on the way back over
here to Seattle. You use yourfolly's so you are just you are in
(30:06):
your you're in your gear, you'rein your water rain gear, and that's
how you operate. Sometimes that's whatyou're sleeping in. You're up deck on
down below, and if you wantto stay warm, that's where you're at.
They're not easy to get on.A fallily is basically like a very
thick specific uh waterproof suit, nota dry suit, but it does keep
you dry. Is that what thoseguys on the big the big freighters are
(30:30):
wearing when they're standing on deck anddoing all that? Yep, yep,
a version of that or when yousee the Deadliest Catch or something like that.
Yeah, big, exactly. Yeah, So that's what we use when
it's cold. And how do youshower? There's no showers? Okay,
it's called a wipe down with somesome body wipes and that what my month
(30:56):
long was a baby wipe body shower. Really no showers. That's interesting,
I mean, is that there's noshower on any sailboat or just not these
sailboats. Not these sailboats. Yeah, space is very limited, so that
that's a shower. Who needs that? Interesting? But go ahead, go
ahead, No, No, it'sjust a comment like outdoors people do that,
(31:18):
like we don't shower in the mountainas well, So that's that's nothing
less to care, that's true.And everybody, Yeah, if everybody smells,
nobody cares. Everybody knows the difference, right, it's just but I
noticed, well we're gonna see thatin the second. But I mean you,
I I think it just looks likethere's a lot of space here,
but maybe I'm obviously mistaken. Soyeah, I mean they do seem kind
(31:42):
of spacious when you've got the photoswith the with the longer lens or that
wider, you know shot, Butthey they're not small, but they're not
they're not huge either. So there'snot a wet barrow, no, no
interesting Okay, you are just tryingto stay hydrated with the water that comes
(32:04):
through the water maker and those longs, that's for sure. Yeah, it's
it's like Arabian big pictures. Yousee the pictures and like, oh my
gosh, it's such a big house. It's so beautiful, and then when
you go there, that is sogood. Photography always matters. Crew looks
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like great, Well that was yeah, one of my training crews. So
that was, like I said,we trained for the two years prior to
the actual race, and so thiswas one of my training crews in the
UK. I've met so many justgreat teammates and interesting people from all over
the world. I mean it's aninternational race. People come from South Africa,
Sweden, Australia, United States,UK. Everybody is on board,
(32:51):
different people training, so you don'tyou never know who you're gonna get paired
up with. And that's that's thebest part of outdoors. You can connect,
like do real connection with real people. Yes that that are in the
same situation as you are, Likethey made the same crazy decision to make
(33:14):
this choice with this particular adventure,right. So yeah, whatever you're doing
where there's outdoors peak bagging your skydivingthere, there's a camaraderie there and you
you are going through this yourself,so s to get put together the same
in your case, you guys arein the same boat. Yes, yes,
(33:34):
I mean, no pun intended.I'll be here all week. Yeah,
tip your server right right mine thisit's get to drive the boat.
I love it. That's a big, big memory I took when we were
we did an episode in Florida.We took a sailboat to cruise those I
(34:00):
don't what you call them wheel,I call them steering wheel. Those things
are huge. And does it takethat much strength? Is that why it
has so big? So you havethe leverage or what's the deal on that?
No power? Steering? Yeah,it just it depends. I mean,
so it is quite large on thehelm, and it depends on what
(34:20):
you're selling against. You know,if you've got large ways, and yeah,
you are going to be moving thatthing really fast, back and forth,
very quickly. And most of thetime you can maneuver it with slight
and very gentle kind of back andforth touch. Just watching that navigation if
you're doing it by like guiding bythe stars, or you're guiding by you
know, some type of sight oryou know something in front of you,
(34:42):
or you're doing it by compass.So it really just depends on the sea
conditions what it comes down to.I love that big garment satellite thing in
the back of your boat there.That looks pretty damn fancy. You notice
that, I'm guessing they're not watchinglike television or anything like that on that
thing. We didn't get to streamany Netflix, no, but we do
(35:04):
have to stay and stay in touchwith home base. So that's why that's
there. I don't even know wantto know what that costs. But that
looks cool. I mean, it'sit's awesome. But we have that technology
out there. And the render question, I have ever thought about doing that
in Brazil because we have beautiful beachesin ocean. Oh you guys should uh,
(35:25):
I don't know. I think that, I think they should. You
should host it? Do we havea man overboard here? What is that?
Well, that's training for a manoverboard. Yes, that's me me
trying to kick off the side ofthe boat to give myself more leverage to
reach who we call Bob, that'sthe dummy. And then I love that.
(35:49):
I love that, Oh my gosh, Bob. Well, no,
not in this particular waters with thistraining, but I'm sure some of some
of the waters do. But Ihave you know, you've got your dry
suit on, you got your protectionon, and your tied to the boat,
and then you're trying to kick off. You can grab that mmy,
wrap your legs and arms around it, hook your your harness onto it,
(36:10):
and then you both get pulled backup onto the deaths. It's fun.
Yeah, I'm sure. Oh wow, that's so cool. I bet it
is cold. Yeah, there's morehelming that wheel that wheels almost as tall
as me. It looks like soprofessional. I love it, like so
(36:31):
rockstar, so fenceive it, youknow, like so very concentrated, very
concentrated. And you're in shorts hereand now I was taking Yeah, but
is it not cold or that wascoming over from Australia, so it was
very hot and the only reason Icovered on top is so that they don't
get sunburned. So strong. Yeah, interesting, and there's our crew coming
(37:00):
over from Australia. That's one ofour watch because you do split watches,
and so the others are down below, probably sleeping, and this is us
trying to catch one of those sunsets. Get along on these trips, you
get for the time most of thereyou go, yeah, most of the
time. Most we had a reallygood crew. Everybody pretty much got along,
so there wasn't any major things,but yeah, that that happens.
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You know, people have different personalitiesand this is definitely a space where you
know, you you deal with thesituations and the conflicts and you deal with
multi, multiple different personalities. Ofcourse, you were just hide and still
like stash a bottle of something onthe trip, when you're you know,
I would have to do that.I'm sorry, maybe I'm an alcoholic,
but I would have to do that. I would have to bring the first
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of all, you would immediately getin a lot of trouble. There's no
drinking on board. It's dry,of course, because you're you're responsible.
You know, to be on watchtwenty four hours a day and the boat
runs twenty four hours a day,and there really is no space to kind
of go hide. I mean,you can you fling yourself into your bunk
and tie up your lee cloth sothat you know that, which is what
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you do to tie yourself into yourbunks. You don't fall out, and
the boat is, you know,kind of going back and forth, and
so you do have kind of yourspaceically sit in there and read or listen
to some music or something like that. So that's kind of what you do
on your downtime if you're not sleeping. But most of the time on your
downtime you are sleeping if you're noton deck. I'm just thinking like a
nightcap, so you could sleep,and maybe that's not a you're so tired
(38:30):
you're not even concerned. I mean, you're going to sleep in any situation
with this. I mean I wassleeping, like you are, below the
waterline pounding they're doing you know,rotations and evolutions on the deck. It's
all kinds of noise. Oh man. Yeah. I mean at one point
I was asleep and awoken because asquall came in and there's just you know,
(38:50):
banging and screaming, and they're pullingsales down and you know, I'm
planking myself across the uh from mybed pinned in there against it because the
boat was so keeled over, andI'm planking myself across, trying to hold
the portal closed with my foot becausean ocean of water was coming through onto
the bed. It was Those arefun times. Those are fun times.
(39:14):
But you know we mod with that. I think I was at that point.
No, I was just trying tocapture some photos and video because it
was really interesting. Yeah, butyou know, your crew on deck is
professional and they're handled it like pros, and that's what happens. Sometimes.
You know, you hit us wallthat you don't expect or something like that.
(39:35):
But we had some some pretty smoothselling as you can see by the
sunset. Oh went, Yeah,I had to go up to the ninety
five foot mask to get that shot. It was fun. We did a
three hundred and sixty degree video withthe three entred sixty degree camera and grab
some footage up there. See,that's the one I was talking about at
(39:55):
the beginning. I was saying,when you're climbing the mask there, man,
that's just that's impressive. I mean, you look it looks like I'm
enjoying myself, right. You looklike alignment from the power Company actually up
there, minus the toolbuilt of course, but I love it. And you
really is like climb equipment. Threedo you what you you use like a
(40:21):
climb equipment? Like, yes,yeah, you're exactly you're harnessed in and
they pull you up as you're climbing. Yeah, exactly. That's very This
is where completion here. What No, that's just another one of the another
shot of the boats at the beginning. Yeah, ours is the blue one.
I think this was before we startedactually thinking are blue ones faster than
(40:45):
yellow ones? Ur was? Wecame in third place out of eleven on
my legs, so that's pretty good. That's pretty good. Yeah, top
three out. Just more more morehailming. You love it, do you
know who you look like right here, Angelina Jolie. Is it the glasses?
(41:12):
I think it's both. I thinkit's it's just the whole, the
look, the glasses, the theyour face, the lips, everything,
you know, everything. Well,I'll take it. I'll take it.
Thanks. Yeah, I would say, you know, I would say,
that's who you look like. It'sjust me. Yeah, yes, there's
there's the winning crew that is Yeah, that is at the finish line basically
(41:37):
as we came into Southeast Asia.Yep, these are the people that beat
you guys. What that's us?I was going to say, you said
the winning Okay, so you didn'tget first place, but still, okay,
I guess it. Yes, yes, that's us coming. I thought
that looks for those guys to comelook familiar. I go, that's okay,
Well she didn't get first so maybeit is the other crew. Well
(42:00):
that's it, that's the awesome crew. How's that? Yes, that is
an awesome crew. I seriously havemet some of the coolest people through this
community of sailing. Are these peoplelike married like you know and everything too.
I mean these are husband wife teamseither, like they leave their spouse
at home for these trips. I'msure right, yeah, yeah, and
some of them are selling the fullyear, uh kind of yeah, and
(42:23):
they they just work it out,you know, they're they're spossible come and
travel to each location when they're inport and meet them. And yeah.
So lots of people have you know, families and kids and jobs. They're
taking sabbaticals from like I did andyou know, left my my agency and
said, you know what got by? I got this is this is great
(42:45):
for my mental health. I'm goingto be refreshedhen I come back from which
is so cool. I love it, man, I love it. I'm
sorry I'm talking too much. We'rewinding down on five minutes. I got
to let you guys do your thing, just working on board, dumping photos
and you got to work wherever youcan. Yeah, and everybody else has
to do the same. I'm sureright. They got to do their jobs.
If they're online, they can dothat, you know, their job,
(43:06):
you're setting photos back to home base. Yeah, that's so cool.
I love your cat. Thank you. I know right, yes, I
call her two. I was tryingto figure out what it is if I
know the point, Well, I'lltell you what that this looks awesome.
I really am disappointed that you can'tbring a bottle of something just for you
(43:29):
know, But otherwise it looks fantastic. I think it would be a cool
type of adventure, something I've neverdone before. So yeah, yeah,
I love it all of them,and I really want to try once.
Actually I think I would do thehammock though, like gilligansion, you know,
(43:49):
so you can go whatever. Youdon't have to get pinned up against
anything. You just kind of thedifference. I love it, all right,
Well that's fantastic, all right,moving right along. If you could
offer last question here, well weget two, but last one's pretty sure.
If you if you could offer anypiece of life advice to someone,
what would it be in one minuteor less? How's that sure? One
(44:13):
minute or less? Let's see ifI could put it into one line,
I would say, if you speakingup causes problems, then your environment is
benefiting from your silence period. SoI truly believe in that once you learn
to understand yourself and listen to yourselfand your intuition and you do speak up,
amazing things can happen. So goahead and say the thing. I
(44:36):
mean, really, the only peoplewho are going to hate on you or
are usually those people who aren't goinganywhere, and those are the ones who
are going to be something negative toyou, but you don't want their opinion
anyway, so speak up. Itreally is. It is, Yes,
there really is, because you knowwhen your mind is free, you are
you really are free if you don'tcare and you if you live your life
(44:58):
any or not look for please peopleand you are looking for please yourself.
That's like the true freedom. SoI am totally with you. If you
can type it up for me andsand and then I don't forget it.
Thank you. So I'll put iton a I'll put it on a T
(45:20):
shirt for you. I love it. Yeah. Well, when where can
people can find you online and compactto you? Yeah? Absolutely. People
can always email me at Liz atLiz Galloway dot com or go ahead and
reach out to me at the WellMined Project dot org or Brandsanitymedia dot com.
(45:44):
So feel free to reach out.Very cool. Liz. Want to
thank you very much for being ourguest tonight. What a great life you've
had in great story you have,and thank you for sharing some of that
ones. I really really appreciate thatpleasure of having you here with Yes,
it's been amazing. Thank you both. Thank you. It was like a
(46:06):
whol a feel for my spirit.Absolutely, thank you very much for sharing
your life and your eduventary with us. Yeah, and we also want to
thank our audience for tuning in tonight'sshow. Be sure to tune in for
next week's episode, Spanish Superwoman withour guest Irene Square along with Maya Marzaki.
(46:29):
This is c W Getz saying thanksfor tuning in outdoors people, see
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Cardiac Cowboys
The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.