Pipeman Interviews St. Lucia at Bourbon & Beyond 2025

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hi, you love Larnt.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yes, that's true.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
For see why for you.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Your this it's pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe
Man W four c Y Radio and now I'm here.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
With Patty and Jean from the band Saint Lucia.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Nice. Yes, and I love your look.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Oh, thank you?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Whose idea is it? It must be yours?

Speaker 1 (00:38):
No, actually we worked with a friend of ours.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
I'm trying to say, man, it was say she told you.

Speaker 5 (00:46):
It was a collaboration with Xander ferred a friend of
ours and us basically, And I love it because I
don't have to worry about what to wear. Isn't that
c Yes, it's like ten minutes to showtime, No no worries.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
We have her a red and a wye outfits of
the only decision is red or white?

Speaker 2 (01:02):
And what picked red today?

Speaker 1 (01:04):
We wore white yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
There it is. I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
The white sweaty so yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
That one that's to get recycled exactly. But I love
the look though.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
It's so cool, not literally though, like how do you
play and perform in this heat?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
In that especially him?

Speaker 6 (01:21):
You're gonna be hot, You're gonna sweat, and it doesn't
matter what I wear. I'm gonna be completely drenched, so
it might as well be drenched in a towel.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
There you go. I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
And you know, when you're up on stage too and
you're getting drenched, you don't really think about it because
you're in the zone, and I think it just propels
you even more.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Oh, this is my favorite part about a show. Get
sweaty and like, go love it.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
That's you're the second artist this week and has said
the exact words like they want to be sweaty up
in stage.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
I think if you're not sweaty, something's wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
You're standing still and playing a studio album on the stage.

Speaker 6 (01:57):
I think the only show we ever played where I
didn't sweat was we played snow Globe Festival in Lake
Tahoe once and it was like negative ten degrees.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Celsius or something.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
How are you playing that?

Speaker 1 (02:09):
We could My hands were frozen.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
I kept on There was like a heater like with fire,
like spitting fire behind me, and I kept putting my
hands in the heater because my hands were they wouldn't move.
I was like, I know, my hands on the keyboard
have to change right now, but it's not doing it.
So I would like stick them in the fire and
then come back out. It was insane, actually, yeah, pretty brutal.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
So tell me about your part two, newest part of
your double album Masterpiece.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
All right, I'll do my best.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
So yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
So we're in the process of releasing a double album.

Speaker 6 (02:41):
We released we released it separately, the two parts of it.
The first part came out earlier this year. The second
part is coming out at the end of this year.
The first part is more influenced by the sixties and seventies,
a bit more kind of indie psychedelic kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
It's called Fatimokhanda Dawn.

Speaker 6 (02:57):
The second one is called Fatimaghanda Dusk and is more
a kind of exploration of dance music and pop music.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
See.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
I love that, And that's what I was saying before
your double album Masterpiece, Part two of your double album Masterpiece,
and I love how you had part one as Dawn
and part.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Two as Dusk. I just thought it was brilliant.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Thank you, appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
But now I think it's even more brilliant that it's
like almost two separate genres. Yes, because I just don't
like how artists are boxed into a genre like thank
you artist expression and it shouldn't. You shouldn't be limited
to what kind of music you can play.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Totally.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
I totally agree.

Speaker 6 (03:40):
I think there's a lot of artists that I like
who do the same thing over and over. I think
that's a skill in a way. But I do think
like there's an overrepresentation right now of artists that that
really sound the same or very similar across the discography,
because I think it's easier for the algorithm to understand
that music and to know who to recommend that too
and what plays to put it on.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
And I think we love what we do.

Speaker 6 (04:01):
We're very proud of it, but I think it's it
is harder for these kind of like technological AI systems
to just know where to put on music because it's
I think there is a joining line through all of it.
I think there is a certain sound to it, but
it is pretty different, like you said, But that's not.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Why we do it, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (04:18):
Like it comes like for me, it's just you have
a certain time. I always call it the time capsule.
You have your creative for that period of time, and whatever.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Comes out is put in this time capsule.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
And that's what's so beautiful about it, and like maybe
one year something comes out, in the next year is
something completely different, and ten years later it's something completely
different again. So I think that's the beauty of art
and music in general, that you can capture what is
there at the time.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Well you know why that makes so much sense? Okay,
So I have my favorite types of music, but as
a listener, we all listen to different music depending on
what mood we're in, what vibe we want at that
moment in time. So it's like, why should an artist
be boxed in too, And why wouldn't you want as

(05:06):
you're evolving as an artist to just test your limits,
Like you were saying, artists like do the same thing
over and over again, I would be bored.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Even if I love.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
The music, I would be bored because I wouldn't want
to try something different. Perfect example is a band that's
headlined next week at the same venue at Louder than
Life called Bring Me to Horizon.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
They've gotten a lot of flak.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Lately because of all the type of music they've been
putting out for the past few years, and all the
gatekeepers were like, you're supposed to be a deathcore band,
not a pop band, not an electronic band no of
this and only the lead singer. He In an interview,
he said, why do I want to write the same
song over and over again?

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, and that's brilliant.

Speaker 6 (05:50):
It goes back to Dylan bringing out the electric guitar
and just people thinking that like artists cater to them.
But the reason you actually like an artist is not
because they're catering. It's because they show you something you
never thought you even wanted. That's I think we were
all here to do for better or worse and risking
our asses. Like just being artists in this day and
age is because it's a way of exploring yourself. Like

(06:12):
there's things I'm probably gonna write that I would never
think I was gonna write, and those, to me are
always like the best ideas, of the best Eureka moments
is when something arrives and you're just like, WHOA, this
feels completely outside of anything I ever thought i'd write.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
And that shows the elements of personal growth as well.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
I think I was gonna hit on that what you
just said, because that is what it is personal growth.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
If you never grow out of that box, there is
no personal growth.

Speaker 6 (06:36):
So you know, kudos and look at Okay, we're getting deep, man,
I know it's getting pretty pretty deeper.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Maybe this age like that's where what happens. I know,
I love it.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
I know right Well, look at Azsie Okay, yeah, when
I started listening at Ozzie a million years ago. Would
I have ever contemplate that he would have done a
with Elton John No? Would I have ever contemplated posts Malone? No? Yeah,
and he did both recently. It's like those are two

(07:09):
different spectrums and he did well. He did collapse with
a lot. I think it's an artist.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
You just got to be you totally.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
And we were talking before about the algorithms, but was
it really different before the algorithms. Record labels used to
it too. Record labels were always well what genre are you?

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (07:26):
I play all kinds of genre. No, you can't say
that you can't do that, and why can't you?

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah? I know. Fuck.

Speaker 6 (07:33):
It does make it more difficult for the marketing person,
but I don't care.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
It's just like, that's just not art. If you're doing
it for the marketing, it's just not that different.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
No that, And I am a big believer, especially as
somebody that sat with bands in the eighties. While they
were signed with record labels telling them how to do
their music. I'm like, I think the business people need
to be there because that's how you get somewhere. But
they need to stay to business people in the artist
need to stay to artists. Yeah, and that's where I

(08:03):
think that's where you draw the line. Artists should be
have total creative control. That doesn't mean you don't get
advice from other artists like producers and stuff like that.
But the business people they don't know the art, they
know the business. That's my opinion.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Yeah, I totally agree.

Speaker 6 (08:20):
And the thing is, artists have a tendency to go
against what people in suits tell them to do.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
So we're like, we're children.

Speaker 6 (08:27):
We're basically children because our children are the same, right, Like,
don't do that, don't pull the middle finger.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
What are they doing?

Speaker 6 (08:33):
You tell them that, I tell them, they just want
to do it, And so I think it's the same
with artists.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
And I think, yeah, I think you're right.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
So we're not old, we're big babies.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
There it is.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yes, see, that's better. I think that's better. Look at
Ringo Storry yesterday. I was amazement. He's in his mid
eighties and he was doing jumping jacks on stage and
running around the stage amazing. Never know, like, and I
think that's what happens when you really really enjoy expressing
your art.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Maybe it literally gives you life. Yeah, told that she
gives you life.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah, So when did this all happen? When did you decide?
What was it that made you decide to go this route?

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Both of you?

Speaker 4 (09:18):
You mean, like in general with Saint Lucia.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
Which and it's not the outfit but music in Oh,
we've been dating for a long time and being together
for a long time.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
So twenty three years.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah, we met at school, right, I didn't even make
it twenty three years with two wa Well, this is us.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
We met at school and then actually, for the longest time,
we kind of we tried to avoid working together because
everybody tells you it's bad for you, it's bad for business,
bad for what I know. And then at one point
we got to the point, because we're working together all
the time, we just said fuck it, and then things
started happening once we embraced that.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
So that's great.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
It's been a while.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
I have this viewpoint. You hear it all the time.
I'd never work with my spouse I want to spend
that much time. Then you're with the wrong person, like
when you want to be with them all the time,
and especially in music, why would you want to be
with somebody, Well, they're on the road and maybe you're
on the road too, but separately when you could do
it together.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
I know. And now we've expanded, So now we've got
two little ones too, and they're on the road with
us too.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
We're just growing.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
I love it. And then they could be the next generation.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, we'll put them, We'll put them in there.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Have they shown interest yet?

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Like musically, Indy our first one. He's very musical.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
Charlie I think needs to have a drum kit and
then he just needs to bang on stuff right now.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
But who knows, Like we're not boring.

Speaker 6 (10:46):
Charlie's a lefty Charlie's eyes. He's a lefty who was
born on Friday the thirteenth.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Wow, I know.

Speaker 6 (10:52):
And what's the other weird thing about him? There's some
other weird thing about him. We love him And whenever
he counts, he skips the number thirteen.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
I don't know. So I think he's an interesting case and.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
I think he's he will surprise us all.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah, he'll surprise us all. But we are not music.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
We are not forcing anything down their throats.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
I love that too.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
We just have music around. We have an open door
in the studio. They come in, they play stuff, they do,
They can do whatever they want and if they show interest,
like I think I want to sit down with Indian
do a bit more like piano and stuff. But I
never like want him to like miss out on the
love of it, you know.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
So and if you force them, yeah, they're not going
to have fun with him.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
You happen or game.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
Exactly will yeah, and they're always surrounded by it, so
we'll see where that goes. There, you go, I might
just make him become a business person though I don't know,
yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
I was like, do the numbers please.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Right, Okay, So tell everybody how they can reach out
to you guys on socials on the web. Buy your
merch because they can't listen to my show unless say,
buy your merch because that's how you get the next gig,
and that's how you.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Can feed the kids at these festivals too.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
True.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
Yeah, we were pretty early on the social media. Bandwagons
are Instagram. Our main thing is Instagram. Still, like we
never really super got into the TikTok thing. But our
Instagram is just at Saint Lucia one word St l
u c I a website for merch. I mean it's
just www dot St. Lucia, New York dot com and
all the merches on there. And you can also buy
via Spotify. I think it's like on, but preferctly go

(12:22):
to our actual.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Store, I say so, yeah, but we're all over.

Speaker 6 (12:25):
On YouTuber when all the platforms we're out there nice.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yes, definitely go buy their album on their site, yes,
because otherwise they don't even get enough to get one
of those butt little round bubble gums in the.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Bubble protion exactly.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah, so have a million streams and you could buy
a half a gumball.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
Yeah, it's crazy, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
It's stupid.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Who would have known that Lars was right when when
everybody was complaining because he complained about Napster Here we are.

Speaker 6 (12:58):
Did you hear about this new podc cost startup, This
AI podcast startup that's aiming aiming to produce like a
thousand podcast episodes per day with AI and have like
AI personalities, and it costs them like one dollar per
episode so no matter what happens, it's a win.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
For them, and I think it sucks.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
I didn't even why would you listen to that? Why
would anyone.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
And the whole there's artists out there creating music with AI.
You're not an artist if you're creating music with AI.
I know I want the real thing me too.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
And let's go back to rock and roll.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
No doubt, that's what we need right there.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Let's get sweaty. That's it.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
And getting sweaty right.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Now, I know, I know you could definitely get sway
in Louisville. So but anyway, do you have any final
words you want to leave the listeners with.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
No, we're just very excited to play here in Louisville again.

Speaker 6 (13:51):
It's been a while also, I think we're here for
Forkshool Festival.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Like years ago, did we play our own show here?
I can't remember. We've been doing this a long time.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Things I know, right that they all swirl in your head.

Speaker 6 (14:01):
Yeah exactly, But no, we're just very happy to be
here playing at festival with our band and the people
we love and.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
Have the kids here. We just feel very blessed. It's great.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Well, we're blessed to have you and thanks for being
on the adventures of pipe Man here at Bourban beyond.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Thanks for having us

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipe Man
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