September 3, 2025 • 37 mins
Born on the unforgiving streets of Belfast, Northern Ireland, Survivalist have forged their identity in the fires of personal struggle, societal decay, and the fractured world around them. Through a unique sonic alchemy, the band transforms fear, frustration, anger, and despair into a sound that is unbowed, unbroken, and uncompromising — a relentless fusion of bulldozing grooves, titanic riffs, concussive breakdowns, and devastating vocals. They call it Groovecore.
Their second album, A Place For Those Who Suffer, Alone…, has been announced, with lead single Deathbed — featuring Alex Koehler (Ameonna, ex-Chelsea Grin) — offering the first taste of what’s to come. On August 29th, they’ll unleash the devastating Radio Bleed, perhaps their most fiercely focused statement of defiance yet.
Tour Dates:
24/09 - The Old Salutation, Nottingham (Headline)
25/09 - Subside, Birmingham (Headline)
26/09 - The Gryphon, Bristol (Headline)
27/09 - Santiagos, Leeds (Headline)
28/09 - Trillians, Newcastle (Headline)
08/10 - Dolan’s Warehouse, Limerick (With Thy Art Is Murder & Heriot)
09/10 - Limelight, Belfast (With Thy Art Is Murder & Heriot)
10/10 - Academy, Dublin (With Thy Art Is Murder & Heriot)
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Their second album, A Place For Those Who Suffer, Alone…, has been announced, with lead single Deathbed — featuring Alex Koehler (Ameonna, ex-Chelsea Grin) — offering the first taste of what’s to come. On August 29th, they’ll unleash the devastating Radio Bleed, perhaps their most fiercely focused statement of defiance yet.
Tour Dates:
24/09 - The Old Salutation, Nottingham (Headline)
25/09 - Subside, Birmingham (Headline)
26/09 - The Gryphon, Bristol (Headline)
27/09 - Santiagos, Leeds (Headline)
28/09 - Trillians, Newcastle (Headline)
08/10 - Dolan’s Warehouse, Limerick (With Thy Art Is Murder & Heriot)
09/10 - Limelight, Belfast (With Thy Art Is Murder & Heriot)
10/10 - Academy, Dublin (With Thy Art Is Murder & Heriot)
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Take some zany and serious journeys with The Pipeman aka Dean K. Piper, CST on The Adventures of Pipeman also known as Pipeman Radio syndicated globally “Where Who Knows And Anything Goes.”
Check out our segment Positively Pipeman dedicated to Business, Motivation, Spiritual, and Health & Wellness.
Check out our segment Pipeman in the Pit dedicated to Music, Artistry and Entertainment.
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Would you like to have your business, products, services, merch, programs, books, music or any other professional or artistic endeavors promoted on the show?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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you know you but the world like your boy, we're
just like a fool. He's and your penis. And now
I see where good the faith is in your ryes Sally,
y'all fare.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Just like all you just cut.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yourself a friend now with baby before.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
H fucking fake friends and what for sake? Married? Now?
I know that you get a bag marry are you.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Get out? Fat job?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
But god, this is the pipe Man here on the
Adventures pipe Man W four c Y Radio, and I'm
going back across the pond again. I might. You know,
people have said I should just move over that way
because I'm so involved in the scene there, And I
can tell you too that I don't know. In this
(01:13):
day and age, with all the shit that's going on,
I like it and I feel more free and safe
over it on that side upon than I do on
this side upon. But here we are with some killer
new music from a killer band from Ireland. So let's
welcome to a show gave from Survivalist.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
How are you yeah, I'm good now, I'm good. Yeah.
I mean certain areas definitely, there's definitely obviously bonuses that
live in here. Than in America, but there's also still
the country's still run by pocket dick heads. Mon So
wherever you are, you know you're going to get them.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, you know, it's funny you should say that, because
I travel a lot for years and years now and
this year in particular more than ever, that statement is
true everywhere in the world. It's like I used to
go to places to escape the insanity going on here,
(02:09):
and now I just go somewhere else that has the insanity.
And when I talk to my friends on your side
upon you know, it's people don't realize this. It's one
thing when you're visiting someplace. It's another thing when you
live there and have to deal with it. Like as
an American going to the UK, I don't have to
deal with the bullshit you have to deal with, you know.
(02:32):
So so yeah, it's like, oh, I feel much better
over here, Dan, You'll you live there, And it's and
I've experienced it in other places because I've lived in
multiple places. And it's like when I was younger, I
always moved to where I vacation before I ever got
(02:55):
married and had kids. That was what I was known
for in my family. It's like vacation somewhere, I'm like,
oh fuck, I'm moving here, and like the next week
I would move there.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I think any vacation I've ever been on, every time
I leave, or if it's tour, if we're away, every
time I leave that place, I'm like, fuck, I would
love to move here. But then it's it's the same
as you live anywhere, man, everywhere, every location in the world,
every place, every town in every city, every country has
its own shit, you know what I mean, No doubt,
you're just kind of desensitized it that because you're there
(03:28):
on holiday and you only see the nice tour sea bits,
but you're not living there every day, dealing with taxes
and dealing with getting shofted by the man.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Totally. Well, here's a perfect example. Okay, my son is
in the Army. My dor in law, her ex husband,
was in the Army. Both were stationed in Germany. My
son lived off base. He didn't want to live on base,
so he lived as if he were amongst the Germans,
not on an American military base. Okay, daughter, on the
(04:00):
other hand, she lived on the military base. She loved Germany.
She wants to still live there now. She that was
the greatest place on Earth. My son not so much.
What's the difference she was living in Germany, but in America.
In Germany, when you're living on.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
The base, yeah, you know, dealing with the actual base
and my.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Son alone, but dealing with the utility companies was enough
to make and want to, you know, jump ship, you know,
and see. That's something you don't when you're vacationing or
like your station somewhere in the military on a base.
You don't realize those real life situations that people that
(04:44):
actually our locals go through.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, no, I agree, And it's the same with where
we are situated now. Obviously I like where I live.
I like Ireland. I like Belfast. We're actually just outside Belfast,
so the majority of the band, three out of four
of us live in place called Banger which is about
fifteen miles out, but we we typically play all of
our shows in Belfast. Whatever it comes to overland. So
(05:07):
Belfast is our home city and it's where the majority
of our fan bases is where the majority of our
family are, you know what I mean. But I love
living here. I love the majority of the aspects of
living here, and in comparison to other countries in the world.
We're very fortunate, and especially with the state of the world, Ukraine, Palestine,
(05:29):
all those countries that are just getting invaded and shit's
hitting the fan all around the world. We're very fortunate
to where we are. But yeah, it still comes with
us drawbacks. They're still government, there's still politicians in power
that just shouldn't be there. There's still parties in power
that shouldn't be there. They're still you know, the everyday man.
(05:53):
Taxes are still fucking going up every single fucking day.
People are still paying out of their assholes for absolutely
fuck all different crisises. Ridiculous. Homeless crisis is ridiculous. But
I love my city and I love Ireland, and yeah,
that's why we kind of put that at the forefront,
because we are from Belfast. We are a Belfast band.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
And I love hearing that too, And you know, you
kind of reminded me of like, I'm originally from New
York and New Jersey and I was born in New York,
grew up in Jersey. I love New York City and
I love to leave New York City, like I love
living just outside the city. And that's what I would
thinking of when you were talking about you live just
(06:33):
outside Belfast. It's like, yeah, to me, the city is home,
but I like living just outside the city where I
can escape it.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, type of thing. And I think we're very fortunate
as well to be part of the community that we're
part of, obviously being part of the alternative community, in
the metal community, in rock and all of that kind
of music that we're into a lot of people that
are a lot more open minded, a lot more understanding.
Don't get me wrong, you still get that. It's like everywhere,
you know what I mean, But like the majority of
(07:06):
the people are a lot more open minded. They're they're
more willing to have a conversation, they're more willing to
hear of you, they're more willing to step back and
separate themselves from a situation and actually listen to people speak.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I'm a big believer in that. Okay, so listen. You know,
you have to really talk to people to get where
their head's at. And you know, in this country we
have that problem right now. Nobody can talk to each
other other because god forbid, you don't agree exactly with
what they're saying. Then the name calling, the attacking and
all that starts. But the bottom line is do you
(07:39):
know why they're what their reasons are? You know, sometimes
there are good reasons, like you know, even with our
you know politics here, sometimes people vote for people they
don't really want to vote for or don't like, but
because it may affect their career, you know, and so
they have to vote a certain way so that they
(08:01):
can protect their livelihood and their family and all that.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, which is crazy. And then these people are called
out by the public because they've been you know, they've
seen that they're supporting certain parties or certain individuals, and
then these people get called out and then how their
career is conceled. But that's the culture that we live
in though.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Right, Yeah, the opinion. You can't have something that's or
something that affects your life. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
All your opinion from the start. That's the that's the
that's the key. Have your opinion from the very beginning.
If you have your opinions and your views locked in
before you start growing your community and start growing the
people that are surrounding you, you can't you can't fail,
you know what I mean exactly because you're the people
that are going to fow you and support. You're gonna
people that follow and support your views and opinions totally.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And that's why I love about the metal community because
there are no outsiders, and you know, we don't have
to think the same, we don't have to do anything,
look the same, anything the same. But we communicate with
each other and we're one big family that everybody is
entitled to be themselves.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
It's super inclusive and it's even down to fashion, you know, dress, sense, music, everything,
any way you want to express yourself as a person.
The metal seeing the metal community hardcore as well, is
exactly the same hardcore scene, hardcore community, all those guys.
There's just that inclusivity that's not there in other music genres.
(09:22):
It's not there. I think the only other music genre
like sort of outside that, and I'll side those sort
of alternative spans. I've seen a lot of this in
is hip hop. There's a lot of real to governess
and hip hop, especially at the underground hip hop scenes
which are sort of exploding in Ireland at the moment,
which is class. Yeah. So I think that it's it's
good to be part of this and it's good to
be in a band that are kind of we float
(09:45):
between genres. We're not stuck. We don't we don't railroad
ourselves and call ourselves a metal band. We like we've
we've been calling ourselves for a while groove core because it's.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
The Yeah, I was like, that's pretty cool, Yeah, groove.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Course probaly like it started as a joke within the band,
like it was us just saying ironically, it was never
supposed to be a real thing, but in terms of
like actual genre of shift and it's probably the thing
that personifies us the most because we've got the core
stuff from deathcore, hardcore, metal core that we have in
there as well. But then there's also a lot of groove.
(10:20):
There's a lot of heavy influence from groove metal bands,
especially everybody in the band is a Pantera fan.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
And this is I'm gonna say right from the beginning,
that's to me, that's the groove part of your hands in.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
And this and this then falls back to what we
were talking about earlier. People like following certain individuals. Phil
in Sound was a bit of a douchebag, isn't he?
But like I love Pantera, I always fucking will man,
They'll always be one of my favorite bands. Fills on
some stupid ship in the past, but that's not gonna
stop me from like in their music.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Well, you know what, I'm glad you brought that up,
because you know, a lot of people make mistakes tay
stupid ship or what they say against misconstruction or what
they do getst misconstrued. I know Phil personally, and I'm
a Jew, so by what and I'm walking my talk
(11:11):
by the way the world is right now, I wouldn't
like him just because I'm a Jew, because of the
fucking rumors and or stupid. He's the nicest guy man,
and like he doesn't like he got a bad rap
with being just stupid. And you know, when you're doing drugs.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
And this is well, I think some of it was
just fucking stupidity. So of it with stupidity. Some of
it was too much fucking booze.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
But that's what I'm saying. When you're drunk or on drugs,
you do stupid ship that you don't even know you're
fucking doing. And yeah, you can't sit there and blame
it on that because you made the choice to do it.
But you know, sit down and communicate with somebody and
find out what really happened instead of like assuming and
(11:59):
I think education it's key, even if like this will
blow your mind. But I actually literally sat down and
had a conversation where real neo Nazi because I was
forced to work with this dude, and I had two choices.
I could either talk to him and find out why
why he thinks the way he does and maybe kind
of helped to modify his thinking by acting the right way.
(12:24):
Or I could kick the ship out of him and
just prove the point of why he hated me just
for being a Jew.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
There was a clear there was a clear third option there.
You could have done both.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, right, right, That's my first thing is to kick
the ship out of him. But you know, I did
talk to him, and what I found out was he
was just brainwashed but by stupiding or people that it's
the only people he was surrounded with, and he was told.
And then when he was talking to me, instead of
me attacking him and being an asshole, he listened because
(13:00):
I wasn't being asshole and it was like, oh wow,
maybe they were wrong, and like it changed his viewpoints.
You're not going to change people's viewpoints by eating the
piss out of their opinion. You know they're good beat
the piss back.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I'm a big fan of people as well, man, Like
I'm a big believer in people and a big believer
obviously people shape us, especially being a band, You've got
to believe in people. People are the ones that pay
your tickets, They're the ones that by your merch, they're
the people that turn up to your shows, and they're
the reason why you can do what you do. So
I have to believe in people, and I like to
give people the benefit of the doubt. And it hasn't
(13:38):
hit me in the ass, probably more fucking times than
I could care to remember. But at the same time,
I like to give people those second chances. I like
to believe that people can be better.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
It's a better way to be for yourself. Man. Of course,
it sucks walking around angry all the time, you know,
And like, the politicians are the ones doing the politicians
throughout the world are the ones turning us against each other,
and we need to stand up against all of them.
My viewpoint is they're all on the same team, and
(14:10):
it ain't mine like that. In my country, Democrat, Republican,
it don't fucking matter. There are two sides of the
same fucking coin, and they yes, they could go fuck themselves,
all of them.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, all politicians. Like, don't get me wrong, there probably
is good politicians in there, and there's also probably politicians
that I think are pieces of shit. But they maybe
have some views and they maybe have some opinions on
stuff that I do agree with. They've maybe done some
things that I thought, Oh, you know what, that's good.
But that doesn't make you a good fucking person just
because you've gone and maybe had one or two wins. Yeah,
(14:42):
being a good person is that's where you're moral compass
points to, Like you're not a good person from being
a fucking sex offender or being an absolute fucking din
with Like, yeah, well we really went and fucking heavy
here straight off the butt, didn't we were?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Well yeah, Like it's part of your music too, which
is what I because you know, so many people say
that musicians should stop preaching and like stick to the music.
That is what music's about. It's about expression, and it
is about getting those things out of you. It's therapy,
getting the anger out, getting the things that piss you off.
(15:19):
In the world, music has always been a voice for
the un injustices in society, Like, so, why all of
a sudden should it not have a voice. It's fucking ridiculous.
I think it's the most powerful voice we can have,
and I have this philosophy we could solve all the
world problems if we had just one major music festival
(15:42):
that was a rock metal music festival that the whole
world was required to attend, and then we could just
work everything out in the fucking pit, like.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
A purge for music.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
It is all of death ever and boom, yes it is.
People don't know in the pit, we're not out there
to hurt and name and people. We're out there so
we don't.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
It's expressionism and it's a way for people to escape
from the everyday bullshit that they're facing the society at
the moment. And I think that's why music and escapism
is so, so so important as well. And circling back
to what you mentioned about keeping your voice and keeping
music music and keeping politics and keeping all that show
on music, it's fucking stupid, Like if that happened. Some
(16:34):
of the greatest music that's ever been written or created
has been written because it's either politically driven or it's
being driven by emotional response, or it's a cry for help,
or it's to do with substance and alcohol abuse. There
is always a story there. So if you are those
people that sit home, be like, keep your politics out
of my music, keep your keep your messages out of
(16:54):
my music. I just want to shut the fuck up.
All of your music's got messages in it.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, and to your point about the human being thing, Okay,
I'm big about that. Just be a good human being.
I'll give a fuck what you believe. As well as
you're not intentionally try to hurt people. Just you do
you just don't intentionally try to hurt people. Ye, and
perfect example. I don't know if you saw what happened.
(17:19):
I think it was yesterday fucking Roger Waters. Oh yeah, yeah,
fucking talking shit about Ozzie, Like, dude, the dude just
passed away. His family is in mourning.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
He's a real person.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yet.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, whether you liked Osbourne or not, or whether you
liked his music or not, or wherever you agreed with
his opinions. And yes, as he did some fucking stupid shit,
like he was high off his drugs. He did stupid
stuff like bite the heads of animals. He did some
other horrible things with animals knocking into But I loved
Ozzie Olsbourne. I loved Ozzie growing up. He influenced me
as a musician, influenced metal as a music. He influenced
(18:02):
every single person that is in this genre. Cannot like
there's no one that can stand back, Like we wouldn't
be here without all the else, you know what I mean,
There's so much, whether you dislike the guy you so
much to be grateful for.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
The end of the day, all that bad, shitty day
ended up a good human being.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
You know, people change, people fucking change people. We stopped
taking drugs, people stop fucking drinking all the time. People
try to change their ways, but this is the society
that we live in now. Man, you don't get that
second chance anymore. You make one mistake and you're fucking
out the door. You know what I mean, It's not
we're humans. We are creatures of chaos. We're creatures of emotion.
We have anger, we have sadness, we hate, we have animosity,
(18:42):
we have everything withinside us and every single person that's
on this bonnet has that. So also be kind to people.
Take a step back, realize situations that other people were
in and obviously there are whankers out there as well
that don't deserve those chances. But try and be kind,
try and try and remember that we're all try to
get from A to B and we're all trying to
(19:03):
get there the same way, and we're all trying to
work shit out our own ways.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Like so yeah, and so that's what I love about
your music, because your music is not only badass and
heavy as shit, but it sends strong positive messages and
talks against the negativity in society. And I'm all about that.
And I don't know, like, it's funny you made a
(19:28):
comment earlier and I'm thinking, now we've really made the
radio bleed today, But that's it.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
So funny. Story about the actual song title, so Radiobly,
we was a replacement for a track that we had
written on the album that we weren't very happy with,
and so we've shelved up for now, we're keeping some
of the risk. We're going to deconstruct it and we'll
obviously probably built it into a track in the future.
So we took that song of the album and we
needed another song. So Nick on research she went to
(19:58):
Racist Elswitz, where We do all the demos, so Reese
is our drummer. For anybody who doesn't know, Reese records
all of our demos and then we obviously take them
into the studio so that we're a bit prepared for Josh.
Josh is like the fifth member of this band. Without Josh,
our songs wouldn't sound anything like the way they do.
We help write, we have ideas. We collaborate on our
music together, and I think that's what a good producer does.
(20:19):
It's a collaboration. It's not just band go and record
this shit. And it's not just a producer being like
I'm going to changes because I like it. It's the collaboration,
which is what we've always had with Josh. So we
took this song off the album and we were driving
in the car after I had heard the initial song,
and it was fantastic. Like I remember recent Nick sending
the riffs through for Radio Bleed and just being like,
(20:41):
this is fucking class this literally, And I'm quite picky,
so a lot of the times, like when they sent
me stuff, I'll be like, no, no, this needs to
be changed, this needs to go here, this needs to
go there. But they sent me the song. It was
essentially perfect, and it's the first time that that ever happened.
So the main thing that stuck out to me was
there was that main riff the whole way through the
down but the bam but damn but but the bam
(21:03):
but damn. So that's like, it was so repetitive, and
it's so throughout the song, and it pops up in
different places in the background, and I was like, that's
like one riff the whole way through the song, but
it's in different variations and we're doing different things with
it and there's stops. I was like, whatever songs do
that bleed Bleed by My Sugar was, And I know
they're not similar. I know that they're not in the
(21:25):
even in the same same genre, but the same Yeah, yeah,
having that same riff pattern the whole way through. But
then we were like, but let's let's make it like
Bleed but something you'd maybe hear on a rock radio station,
because you know, like My Sugar isn't getting played at
two o'clock in the afternoon on a rock radio station.
But I will kind of give it that New age feel,
(21:46):
a bit of hip hop with the DJ scratch and
stuff in the background and kind of bring it in
the twenty twenty five. So that is where the song
name radio Bleed comes from.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
It could be like a radio version of blea.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I love it. That's pretty cool. And I really dug
too about the video is that it was done in
a skateboard part because I'm a skateboarder. The only thing
I have to say is, man, you guys should have
been skateboarding while playing. Well we were.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
If you actually, if you look at the video, are
guitarist Nick. There's a few shots of Nick in the background,
and there's a few shots of Nick with the guitar
on the skateboard.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
See I missed the part or the guitar on the skateboard,
so yeah, he is.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
There's a few shots.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I corrected.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
That's either because like, there's so much happening. It's such
a busy video, and we decided we wanted to do
it in in four to three because we just you know,
bit edgy ear. Put those black bars at the side,
rewind people back to the nineties and how music videos
used to look. They're not in sixteen nine anymore. It's
not all clean, it's not all polished. That was kind
of the aspect of it. And the main message in
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between between between behind uh radio bleed is so we've
all had a friendship or a relationship, or we've known
somebody and that has either went toxic or they've fallen out,
or that person has stabbed them in the back, and
we've all kind of felt that way. And you know yourself,
whether it be an individual or a group of people,
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you always feel ostracized. You feel isolated, you feel on
your own, you feel like you've got nowhere to turn
to and nobody to speak to when you're going through
that situation with either those people or those individuals. And
then you realize when you take a step back and
you take a breath and you look around you, there's
always someone to speak to, whether it's a friend, whether
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it's a family member, whether it's just reaching out to somebody.
If you don't have any immediate friends or family. There's
other support groups, there's other charities, there's stuff. There is
always going to be somebody who will open an ear
and listen to you, no matter how isolated and how
ostracized you feel like you are being from society, from
your friends, from your family, and radiobled is about to
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goeverness within that. So it's about finding a piece within
the chaos and finding the the community where you belong
kind of thing. And that was, you know, just kind
of put your feet back, having a beer, drinking some
buck fast as we do in the video as well.
And they were not props. They were actually gone.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Well listen, you wouldn't be irish if they were props.
And you know what's cool too, is as you were
talking about the old school nineties thing, I was thinking
about him, like, you know, not the music itself, but
the video gives me like reminders of old suicidal videos.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, that's it. It's old school suicidal tendencies, old school
Pantera Like, it's all that, like old school nineties togetherness
as well. Get off your fucking phone, stop scrolling, go
and sit in the skate park where your friends have
a drink. What's your mate to a kickflip, break his
fucking wrist and not see you again for three months.
But that's that's real life, you know what I mean? Like,
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that's yeah, it's that is the world that we live in,
and it's a bit more of what we want to capture.
We want to One of the sentences I've said about
our music before is that it is familiar and reminiscent,
but it's also current and cohesive. So it's we've got
all those aspects of the old school bands that influence this,
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like Pantera, like Machine Head, like uh Jus Praise blocksab
of all those guys. There's elements of that old school
sound within our music and within our even our visuals
and the way we look. But also we wanted to
make sure that a new, polished radio sound.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
And I love hearing that too, because nowadays I find
that I don't know a lot of metal is so programmatic,
is the best way to put it. I I call
it like an algebraic equation to make a metal song.
And they and like some of these, like with the
micro genres. That's why I love it. You know, it's
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funny you made me laugh when you're saying how you
came up with groove core, because I do that shit
in interviews at festivals all the time. I'll have bands like,
if you were to pick what genre and make up
a new genre that was your genre, what would be?
And I do it because it's so ridiculous how many
genres subgenres. Micro genres there are that. Yeah, there might
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as well be one for every band because it's so
stupid and and a lot of those genres they're so
fine tune that they use a you know, a formula
to make metal music. Metal music was never a formula.
So bands like you that are bringing in different elements
that's what makes you unique and stand out because it's
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it's not predictable.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
It's sole, and it's it's the same as our live performance.
Anybody who's ever came to see us live. Yes, we
use box trucks. I think it's probably in this day
and age, fucking stupid not to use them. But our
back tracks are so minimalistic. You will literally hear maybe
some sense or something in the background, but what you're
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seeing live is live as fuck. We don't use in ears.
We still play through the monitor. I don't use anything
at all. The only person that uses any sort of
click track or anything like that in the band is
O drummer, and that's just to keep the rest of
us tight. Everything else is just off him. So we
play like a traditional band as well. And it's been
said to us so many times when people are kind
to say his life. It's raw, it's energetic, it's impactful,
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and you feel like you've gone to see a live band.
I have seen so many bands recently, man, and I'm
actually fucking sick of it, to be honest, going to
see bands that sound exactly like they do on record. Yeah,
we not differentiate, they don't try. There's no jamming, there's
no mistakes, there's no mistakes, there's no there's no fucking about,
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there's no like you know, we have a so we do.
We pulls our bocking truck a few times throughout our set,
and we do things on top of that. So our
druma will hit pause and we will just well riff.
We'll do some bits and pieces, and it's something that's
lost in music now. And I've seen bonds as well.
They all have their in ears in they're hearing everything
(28:19):
coming through their head and they're completely disconnected from their
crowded don't. They don't speak to anybody, like I've said,
they just stand there and they played their music the
funk off. They don't go We'll get the fuck up
on stage, you know, Oh put this fucking place up.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I was gonna say if I was singing and I
had the ind Ears in, I would not even feel
like I was there. I would feel like I was
in a studio, you know, like you want to be
part of the audience. I want to hear the audience.
I want to feel the audience. I want to be
part of it, you know. So to your point of
being disconnected, yeah, I've always felt that with the in Ears,
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Like if I were a singer, I wouldn't want that ship,
you know, I wanted to be part of it. That's
part of being a front person too.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
And we never want to move to That's something that
I've said. I don't know that probably doesn't align with
certain maybe labels or certain management or anything like that,
but it's not something that we're willing to compromise on.
Our live sound is fucking good like and that's me
speaking non biased from somebody who has just heard videos
of us, who has seen videos of us play. Our
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life sounds good and it doesn't need any more than
what it's got. Now. Would I want to add more
production in stage shows, some screens and shit behind us
doing cool stuff? You know, fire all that shit one
hundred percent right, Visuals.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Different, that's just a performance. Part of aspect of it, but.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
The actual sound that stays the same because that's where
our that's our heart, you know what I mean, that's
our soul. That's where, that's our expressionism. That's where we
get the fuck about. That's where we get to interact
with our fans. That's how we create these unique live
experiences where people are coming and they're fucking climbing up
poles and all sorts. Like we've got people climb on
roofs and everything in our shows, like it's been wild.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I love it. That's old school too, because I've been
at shows like that back in the day.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, and I think you lose that now. I think
in airs you lose that. And I've been, like I said,
so many so many bonds that I've seen recently, and
they're just standing on stage, they're going through the motions
they're playing. I get it as well, if you're a
tour or not, it's exhausting. It is exhausting, like being
on the road for so long. And I get that
sometimes you might just have a night where you want
to stand. But I think that if there are people,
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it's like being paid for a service, isn't it? Like
your your fans are paying tickets to come and see.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, if you're a true artist, yes it's tiring, but
once the year up on that stage, it's like you
go into the zone. Like even me times when I'm sick,
as soon as I turn on the mic, I'm not sick.
I don't allow myself to be in my head and
since the MIC's off, then I can fucking die. That's
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the way I look at it, okay, And that anybody
that has passion for what they do, that is how
it is.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Like.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
You know, you're in the zone. You're up on stage,
and yeah, you may be tired as fuck, but the
real artist give it everything they have and leave it
all on the stage.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah. And it's something that I'll say about my boys
as well. And I'm not just do in flight my
own ego here to like obviously, Race sets behind the kit.
Race is behind a kit. He gets he stands up
every now and again, he'll go give a bit of
a shout to the crowd and put his hands up
and shit, but he's behind a kit. And then you've
got Nick, who is fucking crazy, Like Nick is climbing
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over the crowd. Nick is in the crowd like every
single show we played up boy is in the crowd
with a circle pit or some shit going around him.
Lee is the same, Lee gets off stage a bit,
But Lee is the difference between Lee and Nick is
Lee's a classically trained musician. Lee has a master's in music,
which he never talks about by the way talking time,
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But Lea is classically trained. And when you watch Lee play,
he plays a six string bass. We match our six
string guitar with a six string bass, and Leah's like
just fucking doing loads of odd slapping shit and he's
doing loads of like crazy almost toasting a BASSI sort
of styles stop it on bass. And it's the difference
between them too. Lee's effort and energy goes into his precision,
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whereas Nick's effort and energy goes into giving a good
stage show alongside me. So we've got a really nice balance.
We've got the sound and everything being leveled right and
everything being having that polished sound, but there's also that
rawness and that aggression and that energy to the performance
as well.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Nice And speaking of live, you have some tour dams
coming up this month and next month, including one that
is in your hometown at Limelight in Belfast.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
So that brought me back because I used to hang
out at a club Line Light in New York. That
was a famous club back in the day. Yeah, that
was insane and it was an old church that was
converted into a club, so you would climb up to
the top and ring the bell like after you got drunk, stupid.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah. The Linme Light's kind of our home ground, so
that would be our home stage. We play the majority
of our headline shows and majority of our support shows
and stuff were in the Lime Light. And yeah, we've
got so this month in September, we are in Nottingham.
On the twenty fourth, we're in Birmingham and Subside on
the twenty fifth. On the twenty sixth we're in the
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Griffin and Bristol. On the twenty seventh were in San
Diego's and the Eads, and then on the twenty eighth
we finish up in Newcastle. That's the UK leg and
then we are back for the eighth, ninth and tenth.
Eighth is in Limerick with di Artists Murder on Harriet,
and then the ninth is in Belfast with Thy Artist
(34:03):
Murder and Harriet, and then tenth saying I don't know
why I said their name twice, but yeah, we're in Dublin.
But yeah, that was That was a That is one
of the biggest achievements we've probably had to date, was
landing that tour Nice with artist murdered. It's a fucking
huge band. Yeah, Harriet as well. They're an up and
common British band and they are fucking outstanding.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
If you've oh, yeah, they're badass. I interviewed them over
at Bloodstock.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
They're yeah, they're great and they seem like we haven't
really met them when we've spoken them an yet, but
they all seem like nice people. They all like give
they've like, uh, I think it's Jillian's their drummer, like
he gives us the time of day, responds the messages
and stuff like that. And that's what it's all about,
isn't it. It's like it's something that we do as well,
like it's anyone who reaches out for our social media's
and I guess this goes out to anybody who's listening
(34:50):
right now. A big part of what we do is
about the governess. It's about mental health, it's about supporting
each other, it's about community. I have a massive, Hate
Brief and Hatebrey sort of got me into hardcore, which
is my biggest love of music at the moment. Especially
hardcore is you know, it's about standing shoulder to the
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shoulder with your friends. It's about picking your made up
if they're full, and it's about picking strangers up if
they've fallen. It's inclusivity again, and that is a big
part of what our music is a well, that's why
we're called survivalist. We're called survivalists because it's all we're
fucking all trying to do to survive on this planet,
and we're all trying to do. And for anybody who's
listening to this now, if you're ever struggling, if you
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ever are, if you're not coping with your head, if
you're not coping with any aspect of your life, our
dms are always open. Am I going to get back
to you fucking immediately? Maybe not? Maybe so I might,
I might reply straight away. But if you're having a
rough day and you're feeling like there's no fucking other
way out and shit's looking dark and you can't see
the light at the end of the tunnel, never do
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anything fucking stupid. Please drop us a message speak to
speak to any member of the band. That's what we're
here for.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I love it. I love your attitude and your music
screams that same attitude. Everybody's gotta definitely check you out where.
Tell everybody where they can connect to you guys on
socials where they can check out your new music, merch
all that good stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, of course, so we uh, we're a me albound.
We're not a YouTuber, so we we know how how
difficult it is to grow YouTube, So we typically use
our channels for our videos. Channels like Slam Worldwide. You
can find our music on You can find our music
on the Circle Pit TV as well for YouTube, and
then our older singles are still on our channel as well,
(36:39):
and then we'll maybe upload them in the future at
some point once we finished the album cycle on the
our channel, so they're easier to find for everyone. But
for our Instagram is right here. And I did this
just before this call, and as I said Pipemin, I said,
I'm doing this so that I don't have to shamelessly
sell promote us. But here the fuck I am. Yeah,
we are at Survival dot GC dot groof Court. You
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can find us on that handle for anything. We're on TikTok,
We're on Facebook, we're on Linktree, we're in your mom's DMS,
We're fucking everywhere.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I love it. Well, you guys are badass. Everybody needs
to check you out and look forward to seeing a
lot more from you. Fucking have a blast on that
tour too. And and thanks for being on the Adventures
of pipe Man.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Yeah, thanks everybody for listening. I'm thanks very much. Thank
you for listening to the Adventures of pipemin im W
for c u I Radio.
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you know you but the world like your boy, we're
just like a fool. He's and your penis. And now
I see where good the faith is in your ryes Sally,
y'all fare.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Just like all you just cut.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yourself a friend now with baby before.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
H fucking fake friends and what for sake? Married? Now?
I know that you get a bag marry are you.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Get out? Fat job?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
But god, this is the pipe Man here on the
Adventures pipe Man W four c Y Radio, and I'm
going back across the pond again. I might. You know,
people have said I should just move over that way
because I'm so involved in the scene there, And I
can tell you too that I don't know. In this
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day and age, with all the shit that's going on,
I like it and I feel more free and safe
over it on that side upon than I do on
this side upon. But here we are with some killer
new music from a killer band from Ireland. So let's
welcome to a show gave from Survivalist.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
How are you yeah, I'm good now, I'm good. Yeah.
I mean certain areas definitely, there's definitely obviously bonuses that
live in here. Than in America, but there's also still
the country's still run by pocket dick heads. Mon So
wherever you are, you know you're going to get them.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, you know, it's funny you should say that, because
I travel a lot for years and years now and
this year in particular more than ever, that statement is
true everywhere in the world. It's like I used to
go to places to escape the insanity going on here,
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and now I just go somewhere else that has the insanity.
And when I talk to my friends on your side
upon you know, it's people don't realize this. It's one
thing when you're visiting someplace. It's another thing when you
live there and have to deal with it. Like as
an American going to the UK, I don't have to
deal with the bullshit you have to deal with, you know.
(02:32):
So so yeah, it's like, oh, I feel much better
over here, Dan, You'll you live there, And it's and
I've experienced it in other places because I've lived in
multiple places. And it's like when I was younger, I
always moved to where I vacation before I ever got
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married and had kids. That was what I was known
for in my family. It's like vacation somewhere, I'm like,
oh fuck, I'm moving here, and like the next week
I would move there.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I think any vacation I've ever been on, every time
I leave, or if it's tour, if we're away, every
time I leave that place, I'm like, fuck, I would
love to move here. But then it's it's the same
as you live anywhere, man, everywhere, every location in the world,
every place, every town in every city, every country has
its own shit, you know what I mean, No doubt,
you're just kind of desensitized it that because you're there
(03:28):
on holiday and you only see the nice tour sea bits,
but you're not living there every day, dealing with taxes
and dealing with getting shofted by the man.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Totally. Well, here's a perfect example. Okay, my son is
in the Army. My dor in law, her ex husband,
was in the Army. Both were stationed in Germany. My
son lived off base. He didn't want to live on base,
so he lived as if he were amongst the Germans,
not on an American military base. Okay, daughter, on the
(04:00):
other hand, she lived on the military base. She loved Germany.
She wants to still live there now. She that was
the greatest place on Earth. My son not so much.
What's the difference she was living in Germany, but in America.
In Germany, when you're living on.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
The base, yeah, you know, dealing with the actual base
and my.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Son alone, but dealing with the utility companies was enough
to make and want to, you know, jump ship, you know,
and see. That's something you don't when you're vacationing or
like your station somewhere in the military on a base.
You don't realize those real life situations that people that
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actually our locals go through.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, no, I agree, And it's the same with where
we are situated now. Obviously I like where I live.
I like Ireland. I like Belfast. We're actually just outside Belfast,
so the majority of the band, three out of four
of us live in place called Banger which is about
fifteen miles out, but we we typically play all of
our shows in Belfast. Whatever it comes to overland. So
(05:07):
Belfast is our home city and it's where the majority
of our fan bases is where the majority of our
family are, you know what I mean. But I love
living here. I love the majority of the aspects of
living here, and in comparison to other countries in the world.
We're very fortunate, and especially with the state of the world, Ukraine, Palestine,
(05:29):
all those countries that are just getting invaded and shit's
hitting the fan all around the world. We're very fortunate
to where we are. But yeah, it still comes with
us drawbacks. They're still government, there's still politicians in power
that just shouldn't be there. There's still parties in power
that shouldn't be there. They're still you know, the everyday man.
(05:53):
Taxes are still fucking going up every single fucking day.
People are still paying out of their assholes for absolutely
fuck all different crisises. Ridiculous. Homeless crisis is ridiculous. But
I love my city and I love Ireland, and yeah,
that's why we kind of put that at the forefront,
because we are from Belfast. We are a Belfast band.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
And I love hearing that too, And you know, you
kind of reminded me of like, I'm originally from New
York and New Jersey and I was born in New York,
grew up in Jersey. I love New York City and
I love to leave New York City, like I love
living just outside the city. And that's what I would
thinking of when you were talking about you live just
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outside Belfast. It's like, yeah, to me, the city is home,
but I like living just outside the city where I
can escape it.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, type of thing. And I think we're very fortunate
as well to be part of the community that we're
part of, obviously being part of the alternative community, in
the metal community, in rock and all of that kind
of music that we're into a lot of people that
are a lot more open minded, a lot more understanding.
Don't get me wrong, you still get that. It's like everywhere,
you know what I mean, But like the majority of
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the people are a lot more open minded. They're they're
more willing to have a conversation, they're more willing to
hear of you, they're more willing to step back and
separate themselves from a situation and actually listen to people speak.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I'm a big believer in that. Okay, so listen. You know,
you have to really talk to people to get where
their head's at. And you know, in this country we
have that problem right now. Nobody can talk to each
other other because god forbid, you don't agree exactly with
what they're saying. Then the name calling, the attacking and
all that starts. But the bottom line is do you
(07:39):
know why they're what their reasons are? You know, sometimes
there are good reasons, like you know, even with our
you know politics here, sometimes people vote for people they
don't really want to vote for or don't like, but
because it may affect their career, you know, and so
they have to vote a certain way so that they
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can protect their livelihood and their family and all that.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, which is crazy. And then these people are called
out by the public because they've been you know, they've
seen that they're supporting certain parties or certain individuals, and
then these people get called out and then how their
career is conceled. But that's the culture that we live
in though.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Right, Yeah, the opinion. You can't have something that's or
something that affects your life. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
All your opinion from the start. That's the that's the
that's the key. Have your opinion from the very beginning.
If you have your opinions and your views locked in
before you start growing your community and start growing the
people that are surrounding you, you can't you can't fail,
you know what I mean exactly because you're the people
that are going to fow you and support. You're gonna
people that follow and support your views and opinions totally.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And that's why I love about the metal community because
there are no outsiders, and you know, we don't have
to think the same, we don't have to do anything,
look the same, anything the same. But we communicate with
each other and we're one big family that everybody is
entitled to be themselves.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
It's super inclusive and it's even down to fashion, you know, dress, sense, music, everything,
any way you want to express yourself as a person.
The metal seeing the metal community hardcore as well, is
exactly the same hardcore scene, hardcore community, all those guys.
There's just that inclusivity that's not there in other music genres.
(09:22):
It's not there. I think the only other music genre
like sort of outside that, and I'll side those sort
of alternative spans. I've seen a lot of this in
is hip hop. There's a lot of real to governess
and hip hop, especially at the underground hip hop scenes
which are sort of exploding in Ireland at the moment,
which is class. Yeah. So I think that it's it's
good to be part of this and it's good to
be in a band that are kind of we float
(09:45):
between genres. We're not stuck. We don't we don't railroad
ourselves and call ourselves a metal band. We like we've
we've been calling ourselves for a while groove core because it's.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
The Yeah, I was like, that's pretty cool, Yeah, groove.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Course probaly like it started as a joke within the band,
like it was us just saying ironically, it was never
supposed to be a real thing, but in terms of
like actual genre of shift and it's probably the thing
that personifies us the most because we've got the core
stuff from deathcore, hardcore, metal core that we have in
there as well. But then there's also a lot of groove.
(10:20):
There's a lot of heavy influence from groove metal bands,
especially everybody in the band is a Pantera fan.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
And this is I'm gonna say right from the beginning,
that's to me, that's the groove part of your hands in.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
And this and this then falls back to what we
were talking about earlier. People like following certain individuals. Phil
in Sound was a bit of a douchebag, isn't he?
But like I love Pantera, I always fucking will man,
They'll always be one of my favorite bands. Fills on
some stupid ship in the past, but that's not gonna
stop me from like in their music.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Well, you know what, I'm glad you brought that up,
because you know, a lot of people make mistakes tay
stupid ship or what they say against misconstruction or what
they do getst misconstrued. I know Phil personally, and I'm
a Jew, so by what and I'm walking my talk
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by the way the world is right now, I wouldn't
like him just because I'm a Jew, because of the
fucking rumors and or stupid. He's the nicest guy man,
and like he doesn't like he got a bad rap
with being just stupid. And you know, when you're doing drugs.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
And this is well, I think some of it was
just fucking stupidity. So of it with stupidity. Some of
it was too much fucking booze.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
But that's what I'm saying. When you're drunk or on drugs,
you do stupid ship that you don't even know you're
fucking doing. And yeah, you can't sit there and blame
it on that because you made the choice to do it.
But you know, sit down and communicate with somebody and
find out what really happened instead of like assuming and
(11:59):
I think education it's key, even if like this will
blow your mind. But I actually literally sat down and
had a conversation where real neo Nazi because I was
forced to work with this dude, and I had two choices.
I could either talk to him and find out why
why he thinks the way he does and maybe kind
of helped to modify his thinking by acting the right way.
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Or I could kick the ship out of him and
just prove the point of why he hated me just
for being a Jew.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
There was a clear there was a clear third option there.
You could have done both.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, right, right, That's my first thing is to kick
the ship out of him. But you know, I did
talk to him, and what I found out was he
was just brainwashed but by stupiding or people that it's
the only people he was surrounded with, and he was told.
And then when he was talking to me, instead of
me attacking him and being an asshole, he listened because
(13:00):
I wasn't being asshole and it was like, oh wow,
maybe they were wrong, and like it changed his viewpoints.
You're not going to change people's viewpoints by eating the
piss out of their opinion. You know they're good beat
the piss back.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I'm a big fan of people as well, man, Like
I'm a big believer in people and a big believer
obviously people shape us, especially being a band, You've got
to believe in people. People are the ones that pay
your tickets, They're the ones that by your merch, they're
the people that turn up to your shows, and they're
the reason why you can do what you do. So
I have to believe in people, and I like to
give people the benefit of the doubt. And it hasn't
(13:38):
hit me in the ass, probably more fucking times than
I could care to remember. But at the same time,
I like to give people those second chances. I like
to believe that people can be better.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
It's a better way to be for yourself. Man. Of course,
it sucks walking around angry all the time, you know,
And like, the politicians are the ones doing the politicians
throughout the world are the ones turning us against each other,
and we need to stand up against all of them.
My viewpoint is they're all on the same team, and
(14:10):
it ain't mine like that. In my country, Democrat, Republican,
it don't fucking matter. There are two sides of the
same fucking coin, and they yes, they could go fuck themselves,
all of them.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, all politicians. Like, don't get me wrong, there probably
is good politicians in there, and there's also probably politicians
that I think are pieces of shit. But they maybe
have some views and they maybe have some opinions on
stuff that I do agree with. They've maybe done some
things that I thought, Oh, you know what, that's good.
But that doesn't make you a good fucking person just
because you've gone and maybe had one or two wins. Yeah,
(14:42):
being a good person is that's where you're moral compass
points to, Like you're not a good person from being
a fucking sex offender or being an absolute fucking din
with Like, yeah, well we really went and fucking heavy
here straight off the butt, didn't we were?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Well yeah, Like it's part of your music too, which
is what I because you know, so many people say
that musicians should stop preaching and like stick to the music.
That is what music's about. It's about expression, and it
is about getting those things out of you. It's therapy,
getting the anger out, getting the things that piss you off.
(15:19):
In the world, music has always been a voice for
the un injustices in society, Like, so, why all of
a sudden should it not have a voice. It's fucking ridiculous.
I think it's the most powerful voice we can have,
and I have this philosophy we could solve all the
world problems if we had just one major music festival
(15:42):
that was a rock metal music festival that the whole
world was required to attend, and then we could just
work everything out in the fucking pit, like.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
A purge for music.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
It is all of death ever and boom, yes it is.
People don't know in the pit, we're not out there
to hurt and name and people. We're out there so
we don't.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
It's expressionism and it's a way for people to escape
from the everyday bullshit that they're facing the society at
the moment. And I think that's why music and escapism
is so, so so important as well. And circling back
to what you mentioned about keeping your voice and keeping
music music and keeping politics and keeping all that show
on music, it's fucking stupid, Like if that happened. Some
(16:34):
of the greatest music that's ever been written or created
has been written because it's either politically driven or it's
being driven by emotional response, or it's a cry for help,
or it's to do with substance and alcohol abuse. There
is always a story there. So if you are those
people that sit home, be like, keep your politics out
of my music, keep your keep your messages out of
(16:54):
my music. I just want to shut the fuck up.
All of your music's got messages in it.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, and to your point about the human being thing, Okay,
I'm big about that. Just be a good human being.
I'll give a fuck what you believe. As well as
you're not intentionally try to hurt people. Just you do
you just don't intentionally try to hurt people. Ye, and
perfect example. I don't know if you saw what happened.
(17:19):
I think it was yesterday fucking Roger Waters. Oh yeah, yeah,
fucking talking shit about Ozzie, Like, dude, the dude just
passed away. His family is in mourning.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
He's a real person.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yet.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, whether you liked Osbourne or not, or whether you
liked his music or not, or wherever you agreed with
his opinions. And yes, as he did some fucking stupid shit,
like he was high off his drugs. He did stupid
stuff like bite the heads of animals. He did some
other horrible things with animals knocking into But I loved
Ozzie Olsbourne. I loved Ozzie growing up. He influenced me
as a musician, influenced metal as a music. He influenced
(18:02):
every single person that is in this genre. Cannot like
there's no one that can stand back, Like we wouldn't
be here without all the else, you know what I mean,
There's so much, whether you dislike the guy you so
much to be grateful for.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
The end of the day, all that bad, shitty day
ended up a good human being.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
You know, people change, people fucking change people. We stopped
taking drugs, people stop fucking drinking all the time. People
try to change their ways, but this is the society
that we live in now. Man, you don't get that
second chance anymore. You make one mistake and you're fucking
out the door. You know what I mean, It's not
we're humans. We are creatures of chaos. We're creatures of emotion.
We have anger, we have sadness, we hate, we have animosity,
(18:42):
we have everything withinside us and every single person that's
on this bonnet has that. So also be kind to people.
Take a step back, realize situations that other people were
in and obviously there are whankers out there as well
that don't deserve those chances. But try and be kind,
try and try and remember that we're all try to
get from A to B and we're all trying to
(19:03):
get there the same way, and we're all trying to
work shit out our own ways.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Like so yeah, and so that's what I love about
your music, because your music is not only badass and
heavy as shit, but it sends strong positive messages and
talks against the negativity in society. And I'm all about that.
And I don't know, like, it's funny you made a
(19:28):
comment earlier and I'm thinking, now we've really made the
radio bleed today, But that's it.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
So funny. Story about the actual song title, so Radiobly,
we was a replacement for a track that we had
written on the album that we weren't very happy with,
and so we've shelved up for now, we're keeping some
of the risk. We're going to deconstruct it and we'll
obviously probably built it into a track in the future.
So we took that song of the album and we
needed another song. So Nick on research she went to
(19:58):
Racist Elswitz, where We do all the demos, so Reese
is our drummer. For anybody who doesn't know, Reese records
all of our demos and then we obviously take them
into the studio so that we're a bit prepared for Josh.
Josh is like the fifth member of this band. Without Josh,
our songs wouldn't sound anything like the way they do.
We help write, we have ideas. We collaborate on our
music together, and I think that's what a good producer does.
(20:19):
It's a collaboration. It's not just band go and record
this shit. And it's not just a producer being like
I'm going to changes because I like it. It's the collaboration,
which is what we've always had with Josh. So we
took this song off the album and we were driving
in the car after I had heard the initial song,
and it was fantastic. Like I remember recent Nick sending
the riffs through for Radio Bleed and just being like,
(20:41):
this is fucking class this literally, And I'm quite picky,
so a lot of the times, like when they sent
me stuff, I'll be like, no, no, this needs to
be changed, this needs to go here, this needs to
go there. But they sent me the song. It was
essentially perfect, and it's the first time that that ever happened.
So the main thing that stuck out to me was
there was that main riff the whole way through the
down but the bam but damn but but the bam
(21:03):
but damn. So that's like, it was so repetitive, and
it's so throughout the song, and it pops up in
different places in the background, and I was like, that's
like one riff the whole way through the song, but
it's in different variations and we're doing different things with
it and there's stops. I was like, whatever songs do
that bleed Bleed by My Sugar was, And I know
they're not similar. I know that they're not in the
(21:25):
even in the same same genre, but the same Yeah, yeah,
having that same riff pattern the whole way through. But
then we were like, but let's let's make it like
Bleed but something you'd maybe hear on a rock radio station,
because you know, like My Sugar isn't getting played at
two o'clock in the afternoon on a rock radio station.
But I will kind of give it that New age feel,
(21:46):
a bit of hip hop with the DJ scratch and
stuff in the background and kind of bring it in
the twenty twenty five. So that is where the song
name radio Bleed comes from.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
It could be like a radio version of blea.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I love it. That's pretty cool. And I really dug
too about the video is that it was done in
a skateboard part because I'm a skateboarder. The only thing
I have to say is, man, you guys should have
been skateboarding while playing. Well we were.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
If you actually, if you look at the video, are
guitarist Nick. There's a few shots of Nick in the background,
and there's a few shots of Nick with the guitar
on the skateboard.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
See I missed the part or the guitar on the skateboard,
so yeah, he is.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
There's a few shots.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I corrected.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
That's either because like, there's so much happening. It's such
a busy video, and we decided we wanted to do
it in in four to three because we just you know,
bit edgy ear. Put those black bars at the side,
rewind people back to the nineties and how music videos
used to look. They're not in sixteen nine anymore. It's
not all clean, it's not all polished. That was kind
of the aspect of it. And the main message in
(22:54):
between between between behind uh radio bleed is so we've
all had a friendship or a relationship, or we've known
somebody and that has either went toxic or they've fallen out,
or that person has stabbed them in the back, and
we've all kind of felt that way. And you know yourself,
whether it be an individual or a group of people,
(23:16):
you always feel ostracized. You feel isolated, you feel on
your own, you feel like you've got nowhere to turn
to and nobody to speak to when you're going through
that situation with either those people or those individuals. And
then you realize when you take a step back and
you take a breath and you look around you, there's
always someone to speak to, whether it's a friend, whether
(23:36):
it's a family member, whether it's just reaching out to somebody.
If you don't have any immediate friends or family. There's
other support groups, there's other charities, there's stuff. There is
always going to be somebody who will open an ear
and listen to you, no matter how isolated and how
ostracized you feel like you are being from society, from
your friends, from your family, and radiobled is about to
(23:57):
goeverness within that. So it's about finding a piece within
the chaos and finding the the community where you belong
kind of thing. And that was, you know, just kind
of put your feet back, having a beer, drinking some
buck fast as we do in the video as well.
And they were not props. They were actually gone.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Well listen, you wouldn't be irish if they were props.
And you know what's cool too, is as you were
talking about the old school nineties thing, I was thinking
about him, like, you know, not the music itself, but
the video gives me like reminders of old suicidal videos.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, that's it. It's old school suicidal tendencies, old school
Pantera Like, it's all that, like old school nineties togetherness
as well. Get off your fucking phone, stop scrolling, go
and sit in the skate park where your friends have
a drink. What's your mate to a kickflip, break his
fucking wrist and not see you again for three months.
But that's that's real life, you know what I mean? Like,
(25:02):
that's yeah, it's that is the world that we live in,
and it's a bit more of what we want to capture.
We want to One of the sentences I've said about
our music before is that it is familiar and reminiscent,
but it's also current and cohesive. So it's we've got
all those aspects of the old school bands that influence this,
(25:22):
like Pantera, like Machine Head, like uh Jus Praise blocksab
of all those guys. There's elements of that old school
sound within our music and within our even our visuals
and the way we look. But also we wanted to
make sure that a new, polished radio sound.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
And I love hearing that too, because nowadays I find
that I don't know a lot of metal is so programmatic,
is the best way to put it. I I call
it like an algebraic equation to make a metal song.
And they and like some of these, like with the
micro genres. That's why I love it. You know, it's
(26:03):
funny you made me laugh when you're saying how you
came up with groove core, because I do that shit
in interviews at festivals all the time. I'll have bands like,
if you were to pick what genre and make up
a new genre that was your genre, what would be?
And I do it because it's so ridiculous how many
genres subgenres. Micro genres there are that. Yeah, there might
(26:26):
as well be one for every band because it's so
stupid and and a lot of those genres they're so
fine tune that they use a you know, a formula
to make metal music. Metal music was never a formula.
So bands like you that are bringing in different elements
that's what makes you unique and stand out because it's
(26:48):
it's not predictable.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
It's sole, and it's it's the same as our live performance.
Anybody who's ever came to see us live. Yes, we
use box trucks. I think it's probably in this day
and age, fucking stupid not to use them. But our
back tracks are so minimalistic. You will literally hear maybe
some sense or something in the background, but what you're
(27:13):
seeing live is live as fuck. We don't use in ears.
We still play through the monitor. I don't use anything
at all. The only person that uses any sort of
click track or anything like that in the band is
O drummer, and that's just to keep the rest of
us tight. Everything else is just off him. So we
play like a traditional band as well. And it's been
said to us so many times when people are kind
to say his life. It's raw, it's energetic, it's impactful,
(27:36):
and you feel like you've gone to see a live band.
I have seen so many bands recently, man, and I'm
actually fucking sick of it, to be honest, going to
see bands that sound exactly like they do on record. Yeah,
we not differentiate, they don't try. There's no jamming, there's
no mistakes, there's no mistakes, there's no there's no fucking about,
(27:58):
there's no like you know, we have a so we do.
We pulls our bocking truck a few times throughout our set,
and we do things on top of that. So our
druma will hit pause and we will just well riff.
We'll do some bits and pieces, and it's something that's
lost in music now. And I've seen bonds as well.
They all have their in ears in they're hearing everything
(28:19):
coming through their head and they're completely disconnected from their
crowded don't. They don't speak to anybody, like I've said,
they just stand there and they played their music the
funk off. They don't go We'll get the fuck up
on stage, you know, Oh put this fucking place up.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I was gonna say if I was singing and I
had the ind Ears in, I would not even feel
like I was there. I would feel like I was
in a studio, you know, like you want to be
part of the audience. I want to hear the audience.
I want to feel the audience. I want to be
part of it, you know. So to your point of
being disconnected, yeah, I've always felt that with the in Ears,
(28:55):
Like if I were a singer, I wouldn't want that ship,
you know, I wanted to be part of it. That's
part of being a front person too.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
And we never want to move to That's something that
I've said. I don't know that probably doesn't align with
certain maybe labels or certain management or anything like that,
but it's not something that we're willing to compromise on.
Our live sound is fucking good like and that's me
speaking non biased from somebody who has just heard videos
of us, who has seen videos of us play. Our
(29:24):
life sounds good and it doesn't need any more than
what it's got. Now. Would I want to add more
production in stage shows, some screens and shit behind us
doing cool stuff? You know, fire all that shit one
hundred percent right, Visuals.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Different, that's just a performance. Part of aspect of it, but.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
The actual sound that stays the same because that's where
our that's our heart, you know what I mean, that's
our soul. That's where, that's our expressionism. That's where we
get the fuck about. That's where we get to interact
with our fans. That's how we create these unique live
experiences where people are coming and they're fucking climbing up
poles and all sorts. Like we've got people climb on
roofs and everything in our shows, like it's been wild.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I love it. That's old school too, because I've been
at shows like that back in the day.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, and I think you lose that now. I think
in airs you lose that. And I've been, like I said,
so many so many bonds that I've seen recently, and
they're just standing on stage, they're going through the motions
they're playing. I get it as well, if you're a
tour or not, it's exhausting. It is exhausting, like being
on the road for so long. And I get that
sometimes you might just have a night where you want
to stand. But I think that if there are people,
(30:31):
it's like being paid for a service, isn't it? Like
your your fans are paying tickets to come and see.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, if you're a true artist, yes it's tiring, but
once the year up on that stage, it's like you
go into the zone. Like even me times when I'm sick,
as soon as I turn on the mic, I'm not sick.
I don't allow myself to be in my head and
since the MIC's off, then I can fucking die. That's
(30:57):
the way I look at it, okay, And that anybody
that has passion for what they do, that is how
it is.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Like.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
You know, you're in the zone. You're up on stage,
and yeah, you may be tired as fuck, but the
real artist give it everything they have and leave it
all on the stage.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah. And it's something that I'll say about my boys
as well. And I'm not just do in flight my
own ego here to like obviously, Race sets behind the kit.
Race is behind a kit. He gets he stands up
every now and again, he'll go give a bit of
a shout to the crowd and put his hands up
and shit, but he's behind a kit. And then you've
got Nick, who is fucking crazy, Like Nick is climbing
(31:37):
over the crowd. Nick is in the crowd like every
single show we played up boy is in the crowd
with a circle pit or some shit going around him.
Lee is the same, Lee gets off stage a bit,
But Lee is the difference between Lee and Nick is
Lee's a classically trained musician. Lee has a master's in music,
which he never talks about by the way talking time,
(32:00):
But Lea is classically trained. And when you watch Lee play,
he plays a six string bass. We match our six
string guitar with a six string bass, and Leah's like
just fucking doing loads of odd slapping shit and he's
doing loads of like crazy almost toasting a BASSI sort
of styles stop it on bass. And it's the difference
between them too. Lee's effort and energy goes into his precision,
(32:24):
whereas Nick's effort and energy goes into giving a good
stage show alongside me. So we've got a really nice balance.
We've got the sound and everything being leveled right and
everything being having that polished sound, but there's also that
rawness and that aggression and that energy to the performance
as well.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Nice And speaking of live, you have some tour dams
coming up this month and next month, including one that
is in your hometown at Limelight in Belfast.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
So that brought me back because I used to hang
out at a club Line Light in New York. That
was a famous club back in the day. Yeah, that
was insane and it was an old church that was
converted into a club, so you would climb up to
the top and ring the bell like after you got drunk, stupid.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah. The Linme Light's kind of our home ground, so
that would be our home stage. We play the majority
of our headline shows and majority of our support shows
and stuff were in the Lime Light. And yeah, we've
got so this month in September, we are in Nottingham.
On the twenty fourth, we're in Birmingham and Subside on
the twenty fifth. On the twenty sixth we're in the
(33:41):
Griffin and Bristol. On the twenty seventh were in San
Diego's and the Eads, and then on the twenty eighth
we finish up in Newcastle. That's the UK leg and
then we are back for the eighth, ninth and tenth.
Eighth is in Limerick with di Artists Murder on Harriet,
and then the ninth is in Belfast with Thy Artist
(34:03):
Murder and Harriet, and then tenth saying I don't know
why I said their name twice, but yeah, we're in Dublin.
But yeah, that was That was a That is one
of the biggest achievements we've probably had to date, was
landing that tour Nice with artist murdered. It's a fucking
huge band. Yeah, Harriet as well. They're an up and
common British band and they are fucking outstanding.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
If you've oh, yeah, they're badass. I interviewed them over
at Bloodstock.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
They're yeah, they're great and they seem like we haven't
really met them when we've spoken them an yet, but
they all seem like nice people. They all like give
they've like, uh, I think it's Jillian's their drummer, like
he gives us the time of day, responds the messages
and stuff like that. And that's what it's all about,
isn't it. It's like it's something that we do as well,
like it's anyone who reaches out for our social media's
and I guess this goes out to anybody who's listening
(34:50):
right now. A big part of what we do is
about the governess. It's about mental health, it's about supporting
each other, it's about community. I have a massive, Hate
Brief and Hatebrey sort of got me into hardcore, which
is my biggest love of music at the moment. Especially
hardcore is you know, it's about standing shoulder to the
(35:11):
shoulder with your friends. It's about picking your made up
if they're full, and it's about picking strangers up if
they've fallen. It's inclusivity again, and that is a big
part of what our music is a well, that's why
we're called survivalist. We're called survivalists because it's all we're
fucking all trying to do to survive on this planet,
and we're all trying to do. And for anybody who's
listening to this now, if you're ever struggling, if you
(35:32):
ever are, if you're not coping with your head, if
you're not coping with any aspect of your life, our
dms are always open. Am I going to get back
to you fucking immediately? Maybe not? Maybe so I might,
I might reply straight away. But if you're having a
rough day and you're feeling like there's no fucking other
way out and shit's looking dark and you can't see
the light at the end of the tunnel, never do
(35:54):
anything fucking stupid. Please drop us a message speak to
speak to any member of the band. That's what we're
here for.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I love it. I love your attitude and your music
screams that same attitude. Everybody's gotta definitely check you out where.
Tell everybody where they can connect to you guys on
socials where they can check out your new music, merch
all that good stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, of course, so we uh, we're a me albound.
We're not a YouTuber, so we we know how how
difficult it is to grow YouTube, So we typically use
our channels for our videos. Channels like Slam Worldwide. You
can find our music on You can find our music
on the Circle Pit TV as well for YouTube, and
then our older singles are still on our channel as well,
(36:39):
and then we'll maybe upload them in the future at
some point once we finished the album cycle on the
our channel, so they're easier to find for everyone. But
for our Instagram is right here. And I did this
just before this call, and as I said Pipemin, I said,
I'm doing this so that I don't have to shamelessly
sell promote us. But here the fuck I am. Yeah,
we are at Survival dot GC dot groof Court. You
(37:02):
can find us on that handle for anything. We're on TikTok,
We're on Facebook, we're on Linktree, we're in your mom's DMS,
We're fucking everywhere.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I love it. Well, you guys are badass. Everybody needs
to check you out and look forward to seeing a
lot more from you. Fucking have a blast on that
tour too. And and thanks for being on the Adventures
of pipe Man.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Yeah, thanks everybody for listening. I'm thanks very much. Thank
you for listening to the Adventures of pipemin im W
for c u I Radio.
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Football’s funniest family duo — Jason Kelce of the Philadelphia Eagles and Travis Kelce of the Kansas City Chiefs — team up to provide next-level access to life in the league as it unfolds. The two brothers and Super Bowl champions drop weekly insights about the weekly slate of games and share their INSIDE perspectives on trending NFL news and sports headlines. They also endlessly rag on each other as brothers do, chat the latest in pop culture and welcome some very popular and well-known friends to chat with them. Check out new episodes every Wednesday. Follow New Heights on the Wondery App, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to new episodes early and ad-free, and get exclusive content on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And join our new membership for a unique fan experience by going to the New Heights YouTube channel now!