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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hi, you love done too? Yes, that's true. For see wow,
cra you you.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe
Man W four c Y Radio and I'm here.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
With Matt from Rulebi Raptors and also Will from Chris
Nick from nice here at Bloodstock.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Thanks for taking the time man, oh my pleasure. Thanks
for being here at Bloodstock. How'd you get here? Anyway?
I don't mean how did you get here today?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Not just the van.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
We came through the Newcastle Metal to the Masters competition.
We played the new Blood stage to day on Sunday
six forty five. We are absolutely thrilled to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Did you even think you were going to win that competition?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Absolutely no, So that at the second time of asking
first year we had a really good run and it
was amazing. We thought we'll come back second time and
the competition was insane. The Newcastle's got some amazing bands
in the heavy scene right now.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
So that's why I hear from every one of these
mented Masses competitions is like the bands that won, aren't
the ones that think they were never gonna win. But
also the camaraderie. It's not a competition. Everybody's rooting for
everybody and telling everybody and saying how great everybody else is.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Absolutely like the scenes are getting more close and before
everyone just try to build each other up.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
That's the way it should be, right, Hell yeah, hell yeah,
And that's why you're at blood scot and Bloodstock, because
that's what Bloodstock's all about.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Everyone here has been so lovely, so friendly, Like the
vibes have been immaculate all weekend.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
So I got a funny story for you before we
get more into your music, since you're from Newcastle. Okay,
So I was married to a British girl. She came
over to America before I met her, and she acted
like a total royal spoke the queen's proper English snobby
towards Americans. I'm better than you, blah blah blah. Years
(02:05):
later I found out where she was from. Can you guess?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I'm gonna say suddenly, and just for like commonality, but
is it Newcastle?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
It is?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Hell yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
And everybody I say that too, that's exactly what you did,
not even if they're from Newcastle and laughs.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
There is no pretense up there, but it is just yeah, no,
Queen's English, no nothing.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
That's probably why she came to our country because she
didn't fit in with you, guys.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Oh dear, bless her, bless her.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I wish they would send her back to you guys.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Ahaa. So how would you describe your music?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Not a genre, not a label, not boxing you in,
but you, guys, as an artist? How do you feel
your music.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Is energetic, cathotic, political, socially conscious and just all around shouty,
shouty rah rah.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Let's have some fun kind of music.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Fun, that's the key. If you're not having fun in
this industry, it's the.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Wrong job, okay, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Like our live shows, it's just myself and this beautiful
bearded man here throwing ourselves at the nearest person. This
man's throwing shapes, this man's willing our drum kit. We're
having the best time. That's what we're doing it for.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Oh man, that's what it's about. And when you're having
the best time, so we're.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Weird one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And that's the key. When I see a band up
there that looks like they're not having fun, or like
what happened with James addiction, I'm out.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
We've been close to like tearing each other's heads off,
don't get me wrong. Yeah, in a fun, fun way. Yeah, sure,
spin kicks in a fun way.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Well, yeah, that's fun. Not because you're drunk and an asshole.
Want to punch out your guitarists?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
No, I mean, I mean, to be fair, I would
love to punch out our guitarist.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
For yourself, but do that off stage.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Oh yeah, yeah exactly. I am a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
That is where it would because like, how the hell
do you guys travel around in a van and not
kill each other?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
That's why I want now to be honest. Actually, we
get on really well.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I've been in other bands before this, but we learned
pretty early on that we get along. After we had
a really horrendous gig very early days in Liverpool. The
owners told us the loading time and unfortunately the loading
time was actually the door opening time and we were
three hours away and we're like, you need to get here,
so we rushed over. We hit the Mazy Side Tunnel
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and ended up going taking like the wrong route and
having to come back through the Merseyside Tunnel. Got there,
opened the door, the bass amp fell out of the
van on the floor, Matt punched the van.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I told Matt I'd punch.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Him if he did it again. He stormed off to
go and get a drink. He says, I'll let you
cool down. We're loaded in and then we had loads
of bother inside Matt's strings, yes, strap.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
It was strings, straps and the face of my all
smashed him. Within nine minutes, whoa.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
And it basically there was loads of things running behind.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So we ended up where we got about four or
five songs done. We came off stage.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
We were fed up and we thought, right, we'll take
the gear back to the hotel. We'll come back, and
we left. We told the venue and said, look, what
could have come back. We're gonna have a few drinks
and just chill out after everything that's gone on. They
said no, ba, and we went back to the hotel
to find that the train back in Liverpool was off,
so we just sat there for it, just just in
total dismay, got a Peter, watched some family guy and
(05:31):
then we're back there everybody just getting on again. So
at that point we realized we could pretty much.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Go through anything.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Listen, that's the way to experience it in the beginning,
because it's like dating. I tell women, I want to
know your worst habits. I want to know the worst
part of you, because if I could deal with that,
then I could deal with every day.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Absolutely, No, I mean we all know each other's eccentricities
as well. I mean we're all neurodivergent in some different ways,
and I think we're all quite tolerant of like the
sort of eccentricities of each other.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And that's the main thing.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
It is like dating three other people that you don't
want to be in a relationship.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
With, right, right, And it is important to know all
those things. I guess then you can be tolerant.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Understanding, Yeah, I suppose it's a bit like the whole
couple psychiatry thing, where you have to be understanding of
someone else's position when you look and go why doing that?
But that's and I think we're pretty good at that.
I think we're in age. This band's probably the band
I've been in the longest where I'm happy with.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Everybody that's in the band.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
You always have somebody that you sit there and you go, oh,
for God's sake, are you doing this again?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
You know, But it's.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Hard to have in the chemistry again for sure, Like
it's probably one of the most difficult things to being
a musician, like your people.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
If you don't get on, you won't vibe well on
stage as well. You'll end it with an Oasis situation.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
But that sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
So that's going back there what Matt said about us
being on stage. We've always said when we when you
say like Oasis and stuff like that, they just stand
there on stage. And if you're not moving around and
enjoying things on stage, why would the audience enjoy it?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
And to Ethos, that's the way I look at you.
And what do you think? How long is this reunion
gonna last?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
No, I mean the Oasis reunion. I mayn't even think
it would start to be honest.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Totally until the money drives up. I think that's about it. Yeah,
they're very much an edit for the money.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I don't know. I would never have a band with
any of my siblings. I'd kill them.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I'm in a band with my wife's brother.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
That's interesting because occasionally he forgets that it's his sister.
When guys talk guys stuff, it's like, yeah, that's your system.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Oh man, that's funny. That is a hard one right
there too.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I I think I would prefer brother law than a
brother in my bam.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
My wife says she's a little worried that he's closer
to me than he is to hear now.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Right exactly, And okay, you mentioned political Jesus Christ. I
can't believe in twenty twenty five you have more to
talk about politically in songs than you did in the eighties.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
So Chris is a vocalist, olericist, and he writes from
his political standpoint, well on board with that. And then
there's occasions in a lyrics which are a sort of
premonitions which keep happening, like like we write about this
tyrannical this fascist regime, it's horrendous oppression, And then I sure.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Are you talking about my country?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Like no, no, yeah, no, but we wrote about that
years ago and it keeps happening.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
It's just getting worse.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Hey, at least we've got a well of inspiration to
draw from these days.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Unfortunately, Well, it's one thing in my country that got
elected the first time, But how the fuck do you
elect them this second time?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I don't get it. Oh, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I'm in no position to speak on American politics, but
my god, what have they done?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I mean, like, come on, I forget everything else. Why
the fuck are we electing an eighty year old? That's
what I want to know.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
They don't trust the young, they don't trust women, and
they don't trust anyone outside of an old white.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Dude, no doubt. My daughter has said to me. I'm
very proud my youngest daughter. She has said to me, Dad,
thank god you're not an old white dude.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Oh man, it'll come to us all eventually, I know.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Right, Oh maya. But yeah, So what do we expect
from your live show?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Okay, okay, energy first and foremost. From minute one to
minute zero point with thirty, I've lost my voice, I've
lost whatever I've got. Minute thirty, expect energy. Expect movement.
Expect volumetric air, movement of the highest level.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Where loud.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
We're fun, without dance, without a mosh, without have a bear.
Release that terrible, terrible world that was somehow inhabits still.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Oh it's unbelievable, But thank god we have bands like
you that can spread a message of positivity and uniting and.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
One hundred amount the rest of these people.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Jesus Christ. I do want to say, I understand you
losing your voice because you're the vocalist. Wait, you're not
the vocalist. Why the fuck are you losing your voice.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Because it's a festival. I've smoked too much.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Oh yeah, well that's not good. No, and that's at
festival dust.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
It's ah the pit Dustrial Kubla Cord was insane. Yeah, honestly,
I thought it was an Arizona or something. Those mad
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
And how about Machinehead?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Honestly, I say, I mean I saw machine Heads two
thou in nine was Slipknot.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, and they were insane.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
And obviously it's paying god boys last sixteen years now
since I've seen them absolutely blew me away one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I was in the pit last night and there came
a point that if you wanted out, you weren't getting out.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah. It was yeah, it was like the gulag down there. Man.
It looked insane.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Oh yeah, it totally was. But it was a lot
of fun.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Hell yeah, man, hell yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
So what else you got going on after Bloodstock?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
So we got a couple of runs of gigs. We
are playing a slighter run around the vague North. We've
got a whole Blackpool and white Haven in September, and
then we're going down south of November. We'll go to Swindon,
Leicester and Sheltenham and then a couple of days of
Newcastle just around things out for the year. We're playing
a show at the Grove in Newcastle and Biker if
(11:49):
anybody gets that reference on Saturday, sixteenth week yesterday, so
that's gonna be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I love that venue.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Nice and tell everybody how they can reach out to
your soul on your souls on the web and most
importantly by your merch. Kids. They can't listen to my
show unless say buy your.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Merch absolutely one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
We are at ruled by Raptors on every platform, and
then we have a Shopify, we have band Camp, God
blessed band Camp, all of that thing.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I'm going to hand the mic to Chris for a sec.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
You can get our merch on Spotify because apparently you
can order that there. There's a Shopify account on there.
We also have it's rule biraptors dot band camp dot
com for the metch and our link tree is link
tr dot ee, fort slash rule by raptors that has
links to everything, including our bands in town account where
you can see where we're playing next.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I think we would be better off, at least in
my country if we were ruled by raptors. Unfortunately, it
would be nicer.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
To be honest.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Actually, the name is about it's all of your military
and a lot of your government agencies. They have birds
of prey as the imagery like the US military and
even going back far at like World War two where
you have the Nazis had the same sort of imagery
as well. That it's actually sort of a put on
the web being ruled by the fascists.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
That's right, figured that. Yeah, and that's why I think
we're better off because I think at leavest my government
I heard yours isn't much better lately. They're worse than raptors. Yeah,
I really want to rossturs rex to eat them, bring
them back. Let's create Jurassic Park to take out all governments.
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Well you guys, rock thanks for being here at Bloodstock,
and thanks for being on the Adventures of Pipe Man.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Thanks very much for having us. Jess, thank you uch.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Michelle Kerr was my press officer for my entire fucking
career here in the UK, my entire career with Machine.
She recently passed away and it was a very, very
sad day. And I can tell you the reason that
I'm gonna tell this story because she was family. She
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was Bloodstock family. She was head metal UK family. Most
of the bars that you know and love, you probably
heard of because of that woman right there. Slive, Knots, Slayer, Machinehead,
Trivium Kills which engage, Hey.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Reed, you name it.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
She helped lift everybody up. Man. She helped lift everybody up,
and in so many ways, she helped make this entire
music scene, this incredible, beautiful community that lives here at
Bloodstock Man she helped make it.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
So, ladies and.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Gentlemen, please make some noise from Michelle Kerr.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of plate Man
on w for CUI Radio.