PipemanRadio Interviews Taylor Roberts of 12 Stones at Louder Than Life 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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You This is pipe Man here on the Vengrooms pipe
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Speaker 3 (00:23):
Here with Taylor Roberts from Taproot twelve Stones and riding
with Killers.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Oh my god, You're like the busiest freaking musician ever.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
And then on top of it, you know, I've got
the painting business, so.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Like I just I don't sleep, I ever, I know
ever feeling ever and I love your hat.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
So Sean May he was the bass player for the
band Switched if you remember them, and they're early two thousands.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Hell of the bass player.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
He is now a luthier and he makes some of
the finest basses, even some guitars every now and again.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
But he does all of my setups before I go
out on tour.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Like every guitar or bass, depending on what ban I'm with,
it always passes through his hands because I can do
my job and not think about playing my instrument.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, he's the man.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
So I'm gonna give you a trivia question, okay that
you have to ask him, all right, and you'll see
it if he can get it right. So ask him,
who is the most famous bass player that is only
a bass because the bass player because they already had
two other guitarists, so he drew the short straw and

(01:28):
he had to be the bassis.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Okay, you want the answer, you know the answer.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
I'm not gonna answer because I'll probably say the wrong
thing and then like it'll be so obvious and I'll
be mad at myself.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Paul McCartney, Oh yeah, okay, fair.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
So now you can know this to Beatles songs and
listen to his bass, because that's why I did.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
I'm like, oh my god, he does sound like a guitarist.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
He's a guitar player. He's like, I'm like, Paul McCartney,
is what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, that's what I'm picking up from this, that's exactly
I'm a guitar player playing bass, right, see say.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
That's why it's relevant, but it is true.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
It's kind of different when I think when you're a
guitar player that goes to bass, you put something extra
into it.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
For sure.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
I like, I will say, I've been a guitar player
for god what like twenty five twenty six years now,
and this is my first US. You know, I'm playing
bass for Twelve Stones, and it's my first professional bass gig.
But like, I have been having so much fun because
I've been so used to one thing for a quarter
of a century and now I'm doing something different and helping,

(02:31):
like controlling the low end of the band and the
heartbeat with the drummer. Like it's it's been a fun
rewire for my brain. But it's just it's something new.
It's exciting, and I've been having a lot of fun
and especially revisiting like those are the first two Twelve
Stones records where Eric was playing bass and that guy
was a monster, and just like learning his parts, it's
been a cool challenge.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
I really enjoyed.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
I love hearing that and it must be great too
when you're a musician. First of all, I know, like
I always been a sucky at playing everything, but I
always like I want one of those.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
I want one of those. I want one of those.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
And I think as a musician, it's like you want
to dip your toe into all kinds of instruments.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Oh it's I mean, it's it's an industry for addicts
in a way, right, because like it's one of those
things you get a guitar. Well, now, I need another,
And then you learn about studio gear. Now you got
to buy all that, and it's like it's it is
an addiction, but it's like it's the most fun toys
in the entire world because you use it to create exactly,
you use it to create beautiful art and all of

(03:36):
these horrible things that we've experienced, we turn it into
something beautiful and relatable, and it is addicting. It's a
drug in itself. But yeah, worked at Sweetwater for a while.
I did a ten year stint at a guitar store
called Pinkston. So like, I am a gear slut. I
have way too much gear already. I need a bigger studio,
I need, I need more gear.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
It's just it never ends with the radios to like
I've sweet Water and musicians friend on speed dial.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, you know. So we're here
at Louder than Life. We are.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
We almost escaped the first ever Louder Than in Life
that did not have a Code red killed today.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah. I thought we were gonna make it me too.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
I uh, And of course is the Code Red kind
of cut into our time slot, So we unfortunately didn't
get to play today. But it was still cool to
show up and dressed for all nine innings because that's
what you do.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Man.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
You don't always get to win, but you show up
ready to play. And Kilty, our stage manager, was so
wonderful and like he was apologizing, like dude, like this
is out of your hands, man, Like you are so
great to us upon arrival, and we were just happy
to be here and I'm glad we're still here because
we're still talking. Like I've seen so many friends, my

(04:54):
management with tap Root and like just all these other
bands that I've been playing with the last couple of years,
and I'm like, yeah, man, I'm sad I didn't play today,
but like I still get to hang out and be
with my people and feel like I'm normal for a weekend.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
You know what's cool about it, too, is like the
consensus of people around here is they all say the
same thing about you. What a great dude, You are
a great human. You are stop totally totally, And this
is why stuff like this, because so many artists they
would get cut, they may get pissed off, they may

(05:29):
get upset like you can't control the weather, and then
they just bail. But you're here because you're here because
you want to be here, and you know what, it
feels not great to not be able to play, but
you still love the music, the industry and everything so
much that you still want to be here. And like

(05:50):
you said, get in uniform and even if you're on
the bench, you're gonna make that bench it's warm and spossible.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Oh and I have to say an apology out to
Mercedes and the rest of the girls and Kittie. We
got stuck in the craziest traffic on the way down.
Like I was, I was coming to see Kitty, and
then I had some other friends playing, but it was
mainly to see Kitty. And when we played with him
at twenty twenty four, I got introduced to the whole band.
Ended up having coffee with Mercedes and her husband and

(06:20):
it was the best time in the entire world. And
she and I have been talking all week and like
I was like I'm coming, I'm coming, and then like
we just didn't make it in time, and by the
time we got to the hotel, I was like, I'm
dead and I just like passed out. Not that like
it was world ending that I didn't show up, but
like I hate that I didn't make it out last night,
and I.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Heard that they absolutely killed it, as they usually do.
But I just wanted to say sorry to Mercedes and
all that you.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
Were such a great human because you have actually give
a shit about all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Well, dude, like, and I.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Feel like we touched about on this a little bit
of incarceration, but like, man, like, I grew up without
my dad, so already some stunted growth right there. I've
had seven reconstructive surgeries on my left eye and like,
it doesn't look like anything now, but when I was
younger it was awful. I was picked on relentlessly. I
was made fun of. I was the guy that got

(07:10):
cheated on by his girlfriend. Blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
But like, rock music always gave me a safe space.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
It said all the things that I wanted to say
but I didn't quite know how to say because I
couldn't articulate my thoughts and my emotions. And this music
was what gave me a voice, and it gave me
a place in life, kind of like you know, mud
vein man. I saw them I think late last year
around this time, and I was side stage thanks to
Marcus and my brother Sean, who was teching for all

(07:39):
the remains, got to side stated and I started just
bawling my eyes out and Macy looks over and she's like,
are you okay? And I was like, yeah, I'm fine.
But like when I first saw the Dig music video,
I didn't know you could do that. I didn't know
you could look like that. I didn't know you could
play music heavy. Like that's when I was starting to
get into the mud vein slipping out in all the
new metal. But it was like I felt normal when

(08:02):
I saw those guys, and it was like them, along
with Corn Taproot, popa Roach, Lincoln Parks, Slip Kno, it
was like they all just kind of grabbed me and
they said, hey, kid, you're normal.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
You belong, You're not a freak.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
And that's why I fought my entire life to get
to where I'm at, And now that I'm starting to arrive,
it feels like the first time every time, because I'm
finally getting to rub elbows with people that made me
feel like I was not a freak and that I
was okay and I did belong. And that's why this
still matters, man, because it gave me life and I'm.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
A dumb ass kid from South Mississippi.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
I had to crawl out the Bible belt to get
to hear.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
And that's why I.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Am grateful for it, man, because like, not many people
get to do this and like this, and I.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Think attributes to the type of human you are.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
I think it makes a difference in like out there,
none of us are outsiders, none of us are exactly
We're one big family. I think that's what's even cooler
today than in the old days because in the old
days we weren't even that cohesive of a family. It's
like all the freaks were separated, right, And it's like

(09:15):
I always saw it was stupid, like why wouldn't we
band together? Like I remember my school there were like
five of us metal heads, five punks. The punks and
the metal had hated each other, but still the jocks
were bullying both of us.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
So why didn't we band together?

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Because divided we fall, but united, we're gonna kick your
fucking ass.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Now they're afraid of that, right exactly.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
It's true though, man, Like, dude, could you imagine if
everyone just like put differences aside and we were just
all friends like we would be an unstoppable force, and
we would advance and love life, science, everything, like like
all of it.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
We would just advance so much.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Did I tell you at Ink my solution to the
world's problems? No you did not. Oh I got a
solution to the world.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Oh God, It's not the final solution, right, No, no, no,
thank God Jesus.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
No, it's the one that we finally can all be
united against the people that are trying to divide us.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Oh yeah, So here's my solution.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
Have one big music festival, preferably in the rock metal arena,
because we are the ones that are the most family
united oriented. Everybody in the world's required to attend, and
we just work everything out at the music festival.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
I will say just to just to give some love
to my EDM crowd, because I'm a big I'm a
big EDM fan, and you know, Macy's really introduced me
to that world the last four or five years. And
I've gone to like Bonnaroo is more of like a
hippie fest, but like like Electric Forest in Michigan.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Just a great example. Our Okachobe down in Florida.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
I do ok back, I do Okachobe Fest. And that's dude, same.
I agree.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
I have never had more positive, soulful, meaningful interactions that
you know what I'm saying, Like just off the cusp
of going into a new genre because I already knew
about the rock and metal world right and jumping as
a new comer and an outsider, welcomed with open arms,
and everyone is just.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Always so polite, respectful, happy.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
I mean, we're all doing happy party drugs, but it's cool, man, Like,
I've never felt the need, oh my god, I might
have to punch this person if they like invade the
space or start some shit. Like everyone it's just it's
a good community. So I just wanted to give a
shout out to the EDM crowd and just thank you
for being you. You know what.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
I have something to say about that from Okeachobe fests.
But I also have something to say that that also
weirded me out last week at Bourbon and Beyond. So
we were at the Fish show and I was with
my friends who are dead heads, you know, and I
I'm actually I love the dead too, even though I'm
a metal head. Yeah, but Fish was on and my
friend she got she like totally loves Fish, but she's

(11:57):
like fishheads are all assholes. I'm like, that doesn't make
sense to me. Why would you be in that kind
of music and be an asshole?

Speaker 3 (12:07):
You can attract some pretentious people with intelligent music.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, that's that's part of it. And I think it's
when you get to that kind of a level.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
It's hard to articulate sometimes and it maybe comes across
a shitty But that's also me being too nice and
giving everybody the benefit of the doubt and trying to
see the good that I can.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
But so back to okachobe Fest.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
I had this viewpoint, stupid viewpoint, but disproves how people
like they have their perceptions of stuff and they need
to experience everything. Yes, okay, because I was like, why
would you ever go to a concert for a DJ?
Like I'll go to nightclub for a DJ, but that's
just stupid. And then I was at I was there

(12:51):
for Scroaics and base actor.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
I'm like, a basic actor.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Boo, sorry he fucked up. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
I don't know much about it. All I know is
they were both there. But I just saw the show
and I was like, I get it.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
I get it now. And I wasn't even on drugs.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
And I go, well, next time, do Molly and you'll
get it even more right, Well, like I got it.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Was funny because that fish too.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
I was like, man, I'm missing out by not being
on hallucin Cheggs for this because I could see what
these people are seeing that I could see it in
my head. I could see it like when the lights
were going, and like they have their own light system
and stuff, and it's designed totally for when you're peeking.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Well, and that's the other thing, dude, Like they they
know what they're doing, like the lights. Everything is very
well thought out. And I'll tell you one of the
most religious experiences I've ever had was being second row
center at Red Rocks for Dead Mouse and Cascade.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Oh my God.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Like I was literally probably seven eight feet away from Joel,
Like if I would have tossed a lighter, I would
have hit his little cube. We watched it, dude, chainsmokes, cigarettes,
drink seven Coronas, and DJ his ass off. That's a
cool thing. Like, yeah, a lot of it is computerized.
But like when you start looking at like the Acai
NPC or you get into the machine plus and like
these these pads and everything, and like like there's a

(14:15):
lot of DJs that are doing this in real time. Like, yeah,
there are fake people out there, much like there are
people that lip sync and rock and they're tracked in rock. Yeah,
there's nothing wrong with tracks. Everybody uses them. But if
that is your main crutch and you're not actually playing,
that's a problem. But like there are DJs out there
that they're doing it on the fly and they've got
sense Midi keyboards, they've got these padded instruments, and then

(14:38):
they've got their their decks and they're flying in these
sounds on the spot.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
So like it does take musical you lose it. You
have to use it, like you couldn't just people think
they could just be a DJ.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
No, no the hell you can't, dude, it's insane.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
I have a lot of respect, and I have even
more respect after seeing it live because I was like,
I used to.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Share the same thing as you, because I was like, oh, Djabna,
you're not a real musician. And then like I started
working at Sweetwater and I started getting into the technology
side of it and learning the retail side because the
guitar shop that I worked at in Gulfport, like we
were guitars, basses, some keyboards lives and that's it because
that's all that our market could handle, like like monetarily wise,

(15:22):
you don't have people that are spending tens of thousands
of dollars on pro tool rigs or Denn turntables and
this that, and it's just not where the market is.
But then I get somewhere like Sweetwater and they basically
train you. You have to go to a Sweetwater University
as they call it, and like learning about the technology
and then seeing demos and seeing people do this stuff

(15:42):
in real time. It's like, no, you're a musician too,
You're just a different kind of musician that most people
aren't really used to.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
And like once you dive into that world, it's it's
really cool.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
It just it just is. Yeah, totally. So I love
that you're all so diverse too.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
So that's cool too because it's not artist is maybe
because they're not exposed to it.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Well, and this goes back to one of my favorite comedians,
Bill Burr. He said, you got to hang out with
everybody to learn everything because not just one group of
people have the answers. And that's the way that I
feel about music, like because if I just listen to
rock music all the time. I'm going to echo that,
I'm going to repeat it. I'm gonna have influence, and

(16:24):
then my songs are going to sound the same. But
if I find something with EDM or jazz or lo
fi or orchestral or polka even like or bluegray, whatever
it is, I want to find inspiration from different genres,
so I'm not bringing something to the table that's already
there and not to mention, like I don't want to
be on one hundred and twenty with rock music all

(16:45):
the time.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
I want to have calm moments.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
I want to have thinking moments or meditative moments or
whatever it is that the music can because music influences
our moods and I just like branching out. Man, It's
kind of like the more diverse people you can to
meet from around the world, the more well rounded of
a human it makes you. I feel like the same
way with music, Like it's just making me a better

(17:07):
musician at the end of the day by appreciating other
artists and their ability to manipulate and mold sound and
create their art.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
I'm with you one hundred percent in every walk of life, Okay,
Like even with everything's going on today in politics. I
remember being in college and when you debated, you had
to debate both parts of the argument, not just one.
You didn't go to one source for research. And I

(17:37):
think everybody, no matter what side they think they're on
or whatever, why don't you.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Listen to the same side everyone you're on the same
side two.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
I always say two sides are the same coin.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Or here's the other thing, just related to the US
and Eagle needs the left and the right wing to
fucking fly.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
I just shared that from who you know.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
David Drayman posted that and I shared it because that's
freaking Brilliant's true.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Man, We don't have to harp on this, but like,
I just hate how many people take the device, the
dividing devices.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
It's just eating a trick in the book Divide and Conquer. Yeah,
And I'm a total libra, so I don't pick aside.
I don't want a fucking label either. If I say something,
it's my opinion. It's not because I'm a Republican or
a Democrat, or right or left. It's maybe because of
my experiences, maybe because of what I've been been through.

(18:29):
You don't know why people are thinking the way they do,
maybe you should sit down and find out.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
Right first, the minute we stop having conversations with each other,
that's the minute that the real problems happened. But like, dude,
I'm I'm a member of the human race, and that's
that's it. That's my political party, that's my that's my
my affiliation whatever. I'm human, dude, and I'm here to
hang out with other humans. I don't care what color.
I don't care what religion, what race, what orientation. I

(18:57):
I fuck with everybody until you give me a reason
not too. Because I ideal an energy, you know what
I mean, And that's the way that I want to
live my life. And it gets me walked on, sure,
But I would rather get walked on and stay the
same person than to let someone else's actions harden me
and just completely go off the rails and not be

(19:19):
myself anymore.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Like fuck that.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah, I'll get hurt a million times over, but if
I'm still me, that's all I care about.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
Yeah, I'm not looking to be picked on kickball team.
That sucked too when I was in grammar school. It's like,
just be on all teams, all human times. Lot of
somebody is a good person and isn't intentionally try and
hurt anybody else, right, you know what you do you and.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
That's going and we're bringing this all back to music.
That's why I love music so much because, dude, one
hundred thousand of us, depending on what festival, I guess
eighty thousand for Louder than Life this year more, but
like eighty thousand of us are going to be listening
to the same thing and united. We're all feeling it
for differ reasons, but we're all united with one sound

(20:02):
and like that's beautiful, man. It brings everybody together. That's
why music, to me is the last true sacred thing
on this earth.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Yeah, and it's the true uniter. That's why I want
to do that music festival.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
There we go, we're setting the ground work for this
there it is. Just have me come play. I got
three bands for you to choose from.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
You can all three could play. You'll have a different
band each day.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yes, So that and that's what I made a post
on Facebook earlier and I was like, hey, like we
didn't get to play, but still thank you Danny Wimmer
for the invite, because still thank you Danny Wimmer for
the invite.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Like I'm hanging out with you a lot it in life.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
I'm seeing all my friends, We're eating great food, We're
being taken care of. And I was like, we didn't
get to play today, but maybe next year we can
bring twelve Stones back. We can bring tap Free back,
and then you can get my band riding with killers
and I could play all three days. Like that's that's
my goal. I want to hit the trifecta. That if
I can do three days of the festivals with all three,
that would be so sick one day.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
I make We're gonna make that appen. Okay, for sure,
let's go.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
I'm in.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Well, listen, you give me an avenue to work. I'm
gonna work my ass off because that's all I want.
I don't want to fucking handout. I need a path
to work. Let me do the rest.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
And you are a true musician cause radio.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Sorry, I was just joining in.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
I know that was great. I love it. I love
you man, love you too.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
D Thanks for having me, Bro, thanks for being on.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
The adventures of pipe Man once again, and even being
such a consummate pro to come down here and do
this interview even after being cut due to mother nature.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
I want to have missed it.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Man.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
We plan this together, and when I make plans, I
keep a man regardless if I have to pivot and adjust,
that's what we do.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
But thanks for having me still.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
Bro, and that's why all three bands are definitely gonna
be on the festival.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Let's make your having Danny. Thank you for listening to
the adventures of Fight Man. I'm w for see Uhi
Radio

Speaker 2 (22:09):
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