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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Speaker 1 (00:40):
You saw it coming, so we hit the ground running.
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We saw it coming? So we hit the crown runnyway.
It's the ground runnyway, the grown honeyes. I had a
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When I saw this press release, I'm like, wow, holy crap.
I want to do that interview. And so let's welcome
to the show. Steve from the Vapors. How are you?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Oh good, thank you? How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I'm doing great? And you know, I was listening to
your new music, the newest single you dropped on the seventeenth,
and it just brings me all the way back to
nineteen eighty and like hit the ground Running to me
is like just like I went in the DeLorean back
to nineteen eighty which is funny because I just got
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off into a radio coverage at ship Rock where the
theme was the eighties and they had the DeLorean there. Wow,
So it is pretty funny. But what a what a
great song. So tell us what it's like after forty
five years to write new music.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
It's been great. We've been, it's been.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
We had a lot of songs, and we had an
American friend who said, oh, you should, you should. You
guys need to make another album. You know, the last
song is great, make another one. And we had a
friend called Mike Giblin who has his own studio in
his basement. He said, yeah, I really would love to
do it. I'd love to produce uh and yeah. So
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we headed down to Pennsylvania to Mechanicsburg in September and
I spent two weeks there making what I think is
is a.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Is an energetic fun album.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Well it's not only are jagging fun, but the subjects
that you guys are writing about are Again, how are
we back in the eighties where we have to write
about some of this crap still? You know, like it
seems like some of the subjects in the world are
the same as they were in the eighties.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah, we've been playing some songs from the first album
quite recently, and it's just like, we play a song
called there's a song called cold War, and it's like, well,
there's still some kind of Cold war going on. There's
so many of the same issues and the same problems
now as there were right back in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, it just blows my mind. Like I remember me
and my bro we would be like, it doesn't matter
in the world's going to blow up in nineteen eighty
four anyway. And who would have thought in twenty twenty
five we would still be thinking that way, but still here,
you know.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, you'd have thought it would ever have completely got
blown or up, or we'd have done something about making
sure it could never happen. Yeah, it's hard to believe
we're in the same place.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, totally. And you know, Okay, so I've they're viewed
and I'm friendly with Joe from the Vandals, and one time,
who's joking around during the interview because he knew wouldn't
ask him this, but he was like, and don't ask
us when the Vandals are going to come out with
new music. Nobody wants something fifty year old punk, rocker
rate and new music. But you guys did it fabulously.
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I mean like like it's the music is as relevant
today as it was then and these this new album
is just like bad ass to be blunt brilliant.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I so glad you like it, and we're really proud
of it. We really enjoyed making it. We had a
lot of fun making it and basically we set the
equipment up, we put some microphones in front of it,
and we played live and recorded it.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
It's very wow. It's very much.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Recorded in the way that we would have recorded Nuclear
Days back in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I love that because, you know, as being from you know,
the scene all this time myself, it's like I can't
miss those old days of the more the different type
of DIY like DIY today. But DIY is a lot
easier today than it was back then.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
The computer is totally democratized music and made it possible
for everyone to make.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Records, which is great.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
It's great everyone has the possibility to make records now.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, it is great. And on the other side, like
back when you started, it's like you learned to become
a musician, you know, by basically trial and error and
doing it.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Just going out and doing gigs. Yeah, just play and
play and play and play and get better and get
better and get better hopefully.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
So do you think also that the period of time
where we had no live music for COVID helped you
in writing new music because the way I look at
is for a lot of a lot of like current bands,
it gave them a chance to get off the hamster
wheel and like create again. And I think with that
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downtime that creativity comes out.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Yeah, I mean yeah, I think we didn't do very
much during COVID as a band. I mean we didn't
even really get together or rehearse very much. But Dave
was very it was prolific in writing stuff and he
had a lot of stuff. He had a lot of
stuff written when we came out of COVID and we
started playing again, and he was like, well, you know,
I've got some new songs. You want to play some
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new songs, And it's all about it has to excite
me first for me to if I hear something that
excites me, I think this could excite everyone else. And
some of the songs I was just like, yeah, this
is a great song. I love this bit and I
love that bit, and yeah, I hope that feeling comes across.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
It does come across, And that's why I brought that up, because, yeah,
where with that downtime, you're not you can't really rehearse together,
you can't really be on the road, you can't play,
you can't all you can do is right, is the
way I'm thinking.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
So that's when you have that time where you can switch,
to switch off for everything else and just focus on
the creativity.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, and I think Dave must have done a lot
of that, because I'm sure it came out with some
great songs.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, and so tell us a little bit about the
different songs, because they definitely have some meaning, like, for instance,
the Human Race.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, well it's just about it's about the band, really, Yeah,
this song about the band and you know what what
we've been doing, which is running in the human race.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
And it's nice to escape to music from the human
race nowadays.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah. Yeah, but there's another one. I mean, I love
that song too. It just it makes me smart.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah. Well, and then of course, so I was on
that I told you that cruise ship rocked and radio coverage.
But my daughter she lives up in the Panhandle of Florida,
and she texted me a video of them having a
blizzard there.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
And you know you have another song on the album
talking about climate change and if it's a blizzard in Florida,
we need to worry for sure.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah, we do need to worry when we need to
at least, you know, think about it and not just
blindly carry on like we have been for hundreds of
years now, Yeah, exactly since the Industrial Revolution exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Now, is there any song on the album, like they're
all probably your babies, but is there one that really,
you know, like it's home for you besides the human race,
because obviously it's about you guys.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I mean I really like Hit the Ground Running because
it's because it's so punk rock.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
It is, and I definitely got the turning Japanese is
like vibe out of it, you know, the vibe of it,
you know, that's what I mean, that scene vibe of
that music.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Then yeah, it's just let's just let's just play live.
Let's just try and capture the energy in the room.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I think Mike Given the producer, has managed to do
that absolutely.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And now speaking of live, you guys are going to
be doing a tour, and so tell us about live
shows are going to be going on in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Well, first up, we've got some UK shows to promote
the album we're doing. I think it's eight, but we've
gone right back to our roots, doing small club gigs.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Wish. It's going to be a lot of fun. I'm
really looking forward to that.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Then we've got we've got some gigs with Big Country
in the UK in April and May, which I think
is ten or twelve gigs, and then in the summer
in August and September, we're coming over to America to
play on the Lost Eighties Life Tour, which is six
weeks long.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yes, and that. Do you know yet? What states there's
going in?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
It's all over It's all over there. It's where there's
some some place. We're going Florida, We're going to yeah,
at Georgia, this is California, Texas. It's quite a few,
quite a few states this time.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I definitely have to be at the Florida show, especially
since Okay, you guys are playing big countries playing Flaker's goals,
and my friend Josie Carton is playing so Icicle works.
It's definitely it's definitely going to be a live of
fun for sure.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, those tours are just such fun to do.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Really, you get some you get to make a lot
of friends in the other bands because you spend so
much time to go the backstage hanging out, right, You
make a lot of friends on those tools.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
And we did.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
We did The Lost Eighties in twenty nineteen, and I'm
still friends with a lot of people from that tour.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Nice. And see that's good to hear because you know,
back in the eighties, Okay, so as an example, you know,
I was into metal, and you couldn't be into new
wave if you were into merdle, and you couldn't go
a little punk show if you had long hair, and
vice versa. And it was just so stupid. And yeah,
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you know, you know it's funny because the first time
I was ever talking with Josie, I was like, you know,
I can say it now, I used to like you
in the eighties, but I wasn't allowed to have to
keep it secret, I know, right, I remember it was
so funny. One day one of my best friends, we
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went to all these metal shows all the time, and
you know, I found the album. I was just talking
about this recently. I found this album Man's House and
I was like, what's this like? And not in a
nice way, and it was Adam and the Ants Kings
of the Wild Frontier. To this date, that is one
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of my favorite albums ever, you know, And so yeah,
it's like it's like, but you know, I had to play,
you know, like, oh, you shouldn't be listening to this,
you know. And it's so cool that nowadays, you know,
that's the one place in the world that we can
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all get together and get along and be united. And
that's in any type of live music venue, event, festival,
I don't care what it is, and doesn't matter what
genre you're from.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, everyone can. Yeah the get together and chewing.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah. I've said, if we want to solve all the
world's problems, just have one big live music event with
everybody and you know, and we could all unite and
stop you know what all the powers that be are
trying to manipulate us to do, and let's just love
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each other and be human beings together.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, and share and help each other, no, be kind.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
No doubt one hun. So, is there a tell us
how people can check out the new album. It drops
February twenty eighth. Yeah, it's Vapor Zone Records.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah it's it's being released in America on Red Chuck Records.
I think it's available from band camp. Uh, and that's
going to be the album's gonna be on vinyl n
CD on Red Chuck. Nice for all our American friends.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I love it. I love it, and so yeah, definitely
badass album. I can't believe after forty five years you're
still playing out great music that is, you know, like
stands to test the time. And that's the key right there.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Too, thanks very much.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Like I say, the song's all excited me when I
first heard them, and and that that gives it a
good chance of exciting other people.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
That's the most important part. Like if it doesn't excite
you and you're you're the one playing it, who could
who would it excite?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Exactly exactly, And I'm pretty firm about that, Like if
if we play something and.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
If any of us go to or you know, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Really sure about this one. It's just like, okay, we're
not doing that one. Hey, we all have to think, yeah,
this is great.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Absolutely, and it's the same for me as pressed like
I won't do an interview of an artist that I
don't like the music because I can't passionately promote them
if I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, I mean you can't. Yeah. I mean, who you're
going to say is I don't like it?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Right?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I mean I see these other media people sometimes I
go on tour and do these festivals all over the US,
UK and Europe. I see these media people more here
than over there, that they're doing interviews with bands that
like they don't even like the music, And I'm like,
why are you doing press an event that you don't
even like that? Right? Music is a passion, and when
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you're talking to people about music, you have to have
that same passion about it. You know, well, you guys
definitely have it. I can't wait till you play live
here in the States, and you know, I can't wait
for this album to drop. Everybody needs to get it.
Thanks a lot for putting out new music all these
years later, and thanks for being on the Adventures of
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pipe Man.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I thank you for having me on. It's been great.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Cheers, cheers.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipe Man
on w for c u I Radio. This is Steve
Smith for the Vapors. You're listening to the Pipe Man
on w fl C Y Radio. Yes,