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PipemanRadio Interviews Thrashest Regime at Bloodstock Open Air 2025.
The Pipeman Radio tour landed at The UK’s biggest independent metal festival featuring not only some of the biggest bands in Heavy Metal and Hard Rock, but also some of the best emerging metal music out of the UK and Europe competing in Metal 2 The Masses for a spot to play on New Blood Stage. The festival also features The Sophie Lancaster Stage dedicated to the memory of Sophie being brutally beaten and murdered just for being Goth and different. Sophie’s story particularly resonating with anyone who has been bullied, abused, or attacked for simply being who they are. The mission of The Sophie Lancaster Foundation is to stamp out prejudice, hatred and intolerance everywhere. This festival is more than just great music, fun, awareness, and togetherness. It's a family driven DIY Festival that cares where there ar eno outsiders. We join together for a common cause.
Next year is the 25th Anniversary. Get your tickets now at https://www.bloodstock.uk.com/ #BOA26 6th - 9th August 2026, Catton Park, Derbyshire
Take some zany and serious journeys with The Pipeman aka Dean K. Piper, CST on The Adventures of Pipeman also known as Pipeman Radio syndicated globally “Where Who Knows And Anything Goes.”
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey, you have learned too, Yes, that's true.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
For see why Crazy Young.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
This is pipe Man here on the adventureds pipe Man
W four c Y Radio and I'm here with My.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Name is Joe Johnston and from Thrashist Regime were a
Scottish thrash band. We just played on the EMP stage
earlier on and it was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Man, tell us more about what it was like to
perform at Bloodstock.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It was superb. I mean to be honest, we're we've
been going for eighteen years and this is probably the
most high profile gig we've ever played. Wow, and it
was just amazing. The crowd were fantastic. The tent was
absolutely packed out with people. I think we've benefited from
there not being quite as much thrash on the bill
yet this year, as as in most years, and I
(00:55):
think people saw our name and just saw Thrashist Regime
and went right, there's no mistake about what that's going
to be, right, and people love thrash metal. Everyone loves
thrash metal. Metallica the biggest band in the world.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Everyone always wants them to play the old stuff and
that's the thrash stuff. So there's always going to be
an audience out there for thrash, but I mean, I
was really surprised how many people showed up. It was fantastic.
I was kind of imagining five people in the dog
in the tent, you know what I mean. And we
turned up and it's like people all along the barrier,
all the way back as far as you can see,
and they've all got their hands in the air. They're
all giving us the horns. People were so up for it. It
(01:28):
was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I love it. And so I'm an old scoore thrash
metal head.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Good stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I was at the first ever Metallica show, first ever
Slayer show.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
For real, for real amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
All right, So I have a trivia question for you,
and that I will be followed up by a story. Okay,
there was no thrash such thing as thrash metow when
Metallican Slayers started, the word didn't exist. Yeah, what was
Metallica originally considered before thrash metal was coined a term?
(02:03):
What would they have been called? You mean, well, what
even by themselves? What was their genre? Con get?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Some speed metal close they what there was one first?
Then they went to speed, then they went to thrash.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I don't know what would you have called motorheads? Do
you know what I mean? Those bands that were around before.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, my head. Well, let me just said we're rock
and roll.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, I mean he always said that.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Okay, so now I'll tell you his story to answer
the question. Okay, I go to the first show. There's
about twenty five of us there. I'm like thirteen fourteen
years old, and at those first shows you would go
back to their place after the show and party all
night line.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, I've read about Willis.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah I was there. So anyway, this dude gets off
the stage, comes and starts talking to me, hands me
it's business card. It said Metallica power metal, Dave Spain
power metal. Okay, yeah, can you imagine metallic could be
called power now?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I know it's ridiculous, right yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, like there was nowhere to put them, so let's
just make them power metal.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, I mean, where did the term thrash come from?
When did that start being.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I'll tell you al came because the slamming at a
show was thrashing around yeah yeah, yeah, and look at
the song whiplash. Yeah okay, okay, yeah, yeah that song. Yeah,
that song's all about the pit of course. Yeah, and
headbagging and Thrash and Exodus of course. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Bang your head against the stage exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, learn a lesson in violence.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah yeah. So what made you get into thrash? I
was always an Iron Maiden fan, a bit softer. I
didn't actually really well, I guess I got into Metallica.
I was given the Black album on tape. I remember
hearing Master of Puppets and thinking, Oh, that's far too
heavy for me. I don't think I'll ever like that.
And then it was I got had a palcal Jeff,
(04:01):
and when I was about sixteen, we'd just go like
razing around in his car and he was always just
listening to and Justice for All, and I think pretty
quickly I was like, oh my god, the rifts on
this are absolutely incredible. So that was my real entry
point into thrash. And then I got into all the
older Metallica and then a bit of Megadeath, but it
wasn't really until I was kind of probably about twenty
(04:23):
three to twenty four, which is quite old to come
to the game, but I really started getting into the
kind of this kind of lower tier thrash bands Forbidden.
I just love Twisted into Form. I think that record
is because I quite like tech thrash. I think that's
where my that's the sweet spot for me is thrash
that's quite technical, not so technical that it's like Mecon
(04:46):
Delta or something like that Watchtower. That's fine, but like
you've got to have hooks. But Twisted into Form for
me is that kind of perfect sweet spot between hooks
and like rifts that are real tech craigs. I think
Tim Calver as well, those guys. Anyway, someone just gave
me a burned CD copy of that and said, oh,
I think you might like this, and they were right.
(05:08):
And then I got into Heathen and there was a
point where on Amazon I was basically ordering a new
thrash CD every day. Every day something could turn up
in the post, and I was like Fantastic, got into
Suicidal Tendencies and at Trophy and Demolition Hammer and all
of this kind of more underground thrash really and I
just that was it for me. And I was like
(05:29):
I'd already been in a band, a more kind of
melodic band for about ten years, but I just wanted
to form a thrash band. I met another guy in
town and he really wanted to form a thrash band.
And I had this idea for the band name because
I used to wear these massive boots and a really
long coat. And the guy said, oh, you look like
a fascist, and I was like, I'm not a fascist.
I was like, thrashist, not a fascist. And then I
(05:50):
was like thrashist, and then I was like thrashist regime.
That's a great band name. And then I was like, Oh,
someone's got to form that band, and it's going to
be me. So here we are, years down the line. Wow,
it's amazing. Really, it's funny how things work out.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
So it's funny you mentioned the Black album because me
and my original crew of Metallica fans, all twenty five
of us, when that album came out, we were like,
fuck them, those fucking posers sellouts. Yeah, yeah, of course
we all came back later when we matured to get
a little older.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Hang On, that's actually a great record, there's no denying it.
It is a great metal Lesson, It's not a thrash
metal record, No, it's not. That's what you were expecting.
At the time. Then of course you're gonna be like,
hang on a second, boy, But I.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Think nothing else. Maris is one of the best metallica
songs ever, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I mean yeah, I mean there's a reason it's a classic.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
It is it And I'm a pure thrash metal person,
so for me to say that's a lot. Yeah, that's
something and that was something deep for James, so that's why.
But you know, like it's funny this song Seeking Destroy
plays at the San Jose Shark hockey games, and James
has said in an interview, he goes, I don't know
(07:04):
why they played the original version. My voice sucked. Then
I like the newer version bear because he learned how
saying me personally, I like that original raw.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, old boy, so do I there's something about kill
them all. Oh, It's like they're obviously quite an undeveloped
band at that point. The riffs are fantastic, but there's
something about the naivety of that really early thrash that's
just incredibly enjoyable, and that's kind of what thrash was about.
It was a sort of reaction to the big long, progressive,
really very musical, the way the heavy rock had kind
(07:38):
of gone, and then Thrash was a lot more like, hey,
let's just get in the garage and make a noise, right.
You can hear that on Kill Them All. You can
hear it Unponded by Blood as well. You can even
hear it on Forbidden Evil, even though Forbidden Evil is
a little bit more tech, but it's still got that
kind of slight naivety to it that's just kind of
really enjoyable. And for all I'm saying that, I really
like the tech more tech developed Thrash. I absolutely love
(08:01):
a lot early stuff as well.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Well. What's interesting is like seeing the evolution and like
you're from further down the road. For me, it's fine.
Like I remember watching that Metal Show and Kirk Hammett
was on and Eddie Trunk had him rate all the
Metallic albums and the one he had last, which makes sense,
(08:23):
was Kill Mall. I don't know if the rest of
them would play it last, but he wasn't with that
same I mean, he wasn't with that. You know.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
He came in and basically recorded everything almost pretty much
the way that Dave Mustain had done it on the
original demos, exactly ifn the solos are kind of a I.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Even have the original demo from tape Trading. You can't
even tell what it is. It was recorded over like
fifty times. But that's a slice of history right there,
no doubt. But if you took the original thrash bands. Okay,
kill Mall's my favorite album. Okay, Show No Mercy is
my favorite album. Okay, killing is my business, but Business
(09:01):
is Good is my favorite album. Okay, and Anthrax, believe
it or not, the first one is my favorite album
with Neil. Even though I love Belladonna, I love Joey,
I love Beladonna, But it was like, because sometimes I
think it's because of nostalgia that week.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Of course, that's going to be a huge bar of it.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
And it's the soundtrack to your life, right and you're
a kid, and this is your first experience in metal,
absolutely and you went I went to like it'saw Metallica
and Slayer five hundred times before I was even eighteen.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
It's like you heard the shit over and over and
over again. Yeah, And like I was watching Metallica multiple
times before even Kill ma All came out when it
was supposed to be metal. Up your fucking ash. Yeah,
and it wasn't allowed to be you know.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
It is that rawness that and I think a lot
of people do that. Even I can take bring Me
to Rizin, the true bring me fans, the original ones.
They I hate everything after the very beginning because they
wanted that true death corn the beginning.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You always get fans like that. I think of every
band as a huge Iron Maiden fan. I meet people
all the time. Actually, because Paul Deiano died last year,
so many people came out and went, oh, my favorite
Maiden albums at the first two they're the two that
he was on.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Killers.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, I mean I love Killers. I love every Iron
Maiden album. Really, I'm just the nerd, an Iron Maiden nerd.
I've seen them like fifty five times. I followed them
around Europe. But I would never say that the Deiano
albums were my favorite ones. But a man, I love Killers.
When they brought Martin Birch on boards to produce, that
was the moment. Actually he made such a difference to
their sound. But the point is that you're always going
(10:39):
to get the people that just want the early stuff,
play classics. Those guys, I don't want to hear anything
you recorded after your first two years.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
As a brand. Now I have the other side of
that now that I'm older and mature, more mature. Yeah,
I understand the artist side of it. Like you want
to evolve, you want to get seater, you want to learn.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Of course you do know what the fuck they were
doing that. Your songwriting evolves completely as well. And when
you're young, you're quite happy to write songs that are
just like intro verse chorus, verse chorus, midlight chorus, that's
the end. And then after you've done that for a
little while, even a couple of years, you're you start
expanding and going, hey, let's stick another bit here, let's
(11:22):
put a weird time change in there. You end up
with songs for seven, eight nine minutes long, And like,
I love that. I love progressive thrash. Actually, I like
Vector's last album for me was just amazing and amazing
pinnacle of music. It's so technical, there are so many
riffs in every song. It's just mad. Their conceptual stuff
is just incredible. I love that. And that is what
(11:44):
I'm saying is like, I just love thrash. So there's
a place for the early stuff, and sometimes you just
want that raw aggression and sometimes you're in the mood
for something that's gonna take you places that are a
bit weird that you've never been before. You know.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Well, look, so two Seasons, that's the longest Mentale song ever.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, I don't love it. I have to say, there's
some all right stuff on the album.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
To me, it's more about to your point, what you're
saying is they were, but that's for them to write
exactest songs an experiment.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
That's just an experiment, you know. Yeah, totally, that's it.
And you see it with all bands. You see it
with Iron Maiden. You know, they went from writing running
Free to writing rhyme of the Ancient Mariner and in like
five or six years. You know, that's I mean, that's
a wild progression in terms of how you write songs.
And I think it happens to most artists because you're
a musician, you know, and you want to keep on
challenging yourself and you just want to do stuff that
(12:35):
you haven't done before, because it's boring to do the
same thing over and over and over again, no doubt
for you.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Well that's what I was gonna say too. Like your
first album, you play those songs on that first album
more times than any other song ever, because you've been
playing those songs before it was even an album, and
you're playing like every night trying to get nuhs, so
thousand hours i'd be like, fuck, I don't want to
play that song again.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Well, that's it. It happens to us. And to be honest,
we've got two albums. We're working on the third album
at the moment. But for the first album, the songs
are all about three minutes long and they're all pretty simple.
Then there's a gap of about five years before the
second album because we work quite slowly. You know, we're
not professed, like, it's not our job to be musicians.
We have to fit it in, so it takes us
a long time to write a whole album's worth a
(13:20):
material and record it. But five years later, by the
time the second album came around, the average song length
has gone up to like five and a half minutes,
maybe even pushing six minutes. We've got a lot of
long stuff on it. It goes to a lot of
different places that we would have never gone to on
the first album, and for me, that's far more interesting.
I love our second record, it's much better than the
first one. But there are people who say, oh, I
(13:40):
like your first album much more than the second one,
and you just have to go, well, that's fine, that's
what you're looking for.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
But then there's other people that say the opposite.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
So I think here's what you learn. Please yourself as
an ours because you're not going to please.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
But no, exactly. The only reason you do it is
for yourself.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
If you're just in it because you want to please
the fans, then you're doing it for the wrong reason.
Really are lucky to have fans, I mean, that's fantastic.
If you can make a career out of music, then
that then you're one of the luckiest people in the world.
Because it's very, very difficult to make money off music
these days, with the car work, the current model, and
it's so much hard work. And that's it, and that's
why we'll never be like full time professional musicians. It's
(14:16):
too much of a risk. And now we're too old
and we've got kids and all that kind of thing.
So you just fit it in around the rest of
your life. But you're still progressing as musicians and pushing
yourself all the time.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Totally tell everybody they can reach out to you on socials,
on the web, buy your merch. They can't listen to
my show, and let's they support you.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Okay, yeah, I mean we're called thrashist regime. We're from Scotland.
Who can get shirts and the albums at Fat Hippie Records,
dot co, dot UK, Amazon, Spotify, all the streaming services
dz are all those things. We're on all of them.
And yeah, just google us and you'll find us. I
think hopefully we're the only thrashest regime out there.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I would think so.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Oh I know one other thing too. I had somebody
that's dated a Scottish girl and as Scottish friends. Oh really,
how come you're the only Scottish person I can understand.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Because I don't have a Scottish accent because my parents
are English from ah, that makes sense for my sins.
Somebody has to be there, you go. But I was
born in Aberdeen. I am Scottish. The whole bander actually
old just from round Aberdeen.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Really nice. Yeah, anything else you want to share with
the listeners, we haven't covered already that they need to know.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Not really, just please check us out of the video
for headshots on YouTube. Go and check that out and
look out for us. Next year, we'll be releasing a
new album, all the materials written. We're recording it right
now and it's gonna kick your ass.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I'm sure will and you do kick ass. And thanks
for being on the Adventures of pipe Man.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Thanks for speaking to us.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Cheers.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Michelle Kerr was my press officer for my entire fucking
career here in the UK, my entire career with Machina.
She recently passed away and it was a very, very
sad day. And I can tell the other reason that
I'm gonna tell this story because she was family. She
(16:06):
was Bloodstock family.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
She was heavy metal UK family. Most of the bears
that you.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Know and love you probably heard of because of that
woman right there. Slip Knots, Slayer, Machinehead, Trivium, Killswitch, Engage, Hey, Breed,
you name it.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
She helped lift everybody up, man, She helped lift everybody up,
and in so many ways, she helped make this entire
music scene, this incredible, beautiful community that lives here at Bloodstock.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Man.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
She helped make it.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
So, ladies and.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Gentlemen, please make some noise from Michelle Kerr.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Thank you for listening to the adventures of plate Man.
I'm dove U force U I Radio
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Yeah.
Hey, you have learned too, Yes, that's true.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
For see why Crazy Young.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
This is pipe Man here on the adventureds pipe Man
W four c Y Radio and I'm here with My.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Name is Joe Johnston and from Thrashist Regime were a
Scottish thrash band. We just played on the EMP stage
earlier on and it was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Man, tell us more about what it was like to
perform at Bloodstock.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It was superb. I mean to be honest, we're we've
been going for eighteen years and this is probably the
most high profile gig we've ever played. Wow, and it
was just amazing. The crowd were fantastic. The tent was
absolutely packed out with people. I think we've benefited from
there not being quite as much thrash on the bill
yet this year, as as in most years, and I
(00:55):
think people saw our name and just saw Thrashist Regime
and went right, there's no mistake about what that's going
to be, right, and people love thrash metal. Everyone loves
thrash metal. Metallica the biggest band in the world.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Everyone always wants them to play the old stuff and
that's the thrash stuff. So there's always going to be
an audience out there for thrash, but I mean, I
was really surprised how many people showed up. It was fantastic.
I was kind of imagining five people in the dog
in the tent, you know what I mean. And we
turned up and it's like people all along the barrier,
all the way back as far as you can see,
and they've all got their hands in the air. They're
all giving us the horns. People were so up for it. It
(01:28):
was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I love it. And so I'm an old scoore thrash
metal head.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Good stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I was at the first ever Metallica show, first ever
Slayer show.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
For real, for real amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
All right, So I have a trivia question for you,
and that I will be followed up by a story. Okay,
there was no thrash such thing as thrash metow when
Metallican Slayers started, the word didn't exist. Yeah, what was
Metallica originally considered before thrash metal was coined a term?
(02:03):
What would they have been called? You mean, well, what
even by themselves? What was their genre? Con get?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Some speed metal close they what there was one first?
Then they went to speed, then they went to thrash.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I don't know what would you have called motorheads? Do
you know what I mean? Those bands that were around before.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, my head. Well, let me just said we're rock
and roll.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, I mean he always said that.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Okay, so now I'll tell you his story to answer
the question. Okay, I go to the first show. There's
about twenty five of us there. I'm like thirteen fourteen
years old, and at those first shows you would go
back to their place after the show and party all
night line.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, I've read about Willis.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah I was there. So anyway, this dude gets off
the stage, comes and starts talking to me, hands me
it's business card. It said Metallica power metal, Dave Spain
power metal. Okay, yeah, can you imagine metallic could be
called power now?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I know it's ridiculous, right yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, like there was nowhere to put them, so let's
just make them power metal.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, I mean, where did the term thrash come from?
When did that start being.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I'll tell you al came because the slamming at a
show was thrashing around yeah yeah, yeah, and look at
the song whiplash. Yeah okay, okay, yeah, yeah that song. Yeah,
that song's all about the pit of course. Yeah, and
headbagging and Thrash and Exodus of course. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Bang your head against the stage exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, learn a lesson in violence.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah yeah. So what made you get into thrash? I
was always an Iron Maiden fan, a bit softer. I
didn't actually really well, I guess I got into Metallica.
I was given the Black album on tape. I remember
hearing Master of Puppets and thinking, Oh, that's far too
heavy for me. I don't think I'll ever like that.
And then it was I got had a palcal Jeff,
(04:01):
and when I was about sixteen, we'd just go like
razing around in his car and he was always just
listening to and Justice for All, and I think pretty
quickly I was like, oh my god, the rifts on
this are absolutely incredible. So that was my real entry
point into thrash. And then I got into all the
older Metallica and then a bit of Megadeath, but it
wasn't really until I was kind of probably about twenty
(04:23):
three to twenty four, which is quite old to come
to the game, but I really started getting into the
kind of this kind of lower tier thrash bands Forbidden.
I just love Twisted into Form. I think that record
is because I quite like tech thrash. I think that's
where my that's the sweet spot for me is thrash
that's quite technical, not so technical that it's like Mecon
(04:46):
Delta or something like that Watchtower. That's fine, but like
you've got to have hooks. But Twisted into Form for
me is that kind of perfect sweet spot between hooks
and like rifts that are real tech craigs. I think
Tim Calver as well, those guys. Anyway, someone just gave
me a burned CD copy of that and said, oh,
I think you might like this, and they were right.
(05:08):
And then I got into Heathen and there was a
point where on Amazon I was basically ordering a new
thrash CD every day. Every day something could turn up
in the post, and I was like Fantastic, got into
Suicidal Tendencies and at Trophy and Demolition Hammer and all
of this kind of more underground thrash really and I
just that was it for me. And I was like
(05:29):
I'd already been in a band, a more kind of
melodic band for about ten years, but I just wanted
to form a thrash band. I met another guy in
town and he really wanted to form a thrash band.
And I had this idea for the band name because
I used to wear these massive boots and a really
long coat. And the guy said, oh, you look like
a fascist, and I was like, I'm not a fascist.
I was like, thrashist, not a fascist. And then I
(05:50):
was like thrashist, and then I was like thrashist regime.
That's a great band name. And then I was like, Oh,
someone's got to form that band, and it's going to
be me. So here we are, years down the line. Wow,
it's amazing. Really, it's funny how things work out.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
So it's funny you mentioned the Black album because me
and my original crew of Metallica fans, all twenty five
of us, when that album came out, we were like,
fuck them, those fucking posers sellouts. Yeah, yeah, of course
we all came back later when we matured to get
a little older.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Hang On, that's actually a great record, there's no denying it.
It is a great metal Lesson, It's not a thrash
metal record, No, it's not. That's what you were expecting.
At the time. Then of course you're gonna be like,
hang on a second, boy, But I.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Think nothing else. Maris is one of the best metallica
songs ever, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I mean yeah, I mean there's a reason it's a classic.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
It is it And I'm a pure thrash metal person,
so for me to say that's a lot. Yeah, that's
something and that was something deep for James, so that's why.
But you know, like it's funny this song Seeking Destroy
plays at the San Jose Shark hockey games, and James
has said in an interview, he goes, I don't know
(07:04):
why they played the original version. My voice sucked. Then
I like the newer version bear because he learned how
saying me personally, I like that original raw.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, old boy, so do I there's something about kill
them all. Oh, It's like they're obviously quite an undeveloped
band at that point. The riffs are fantastic, but there's
something about the naivety of that really early thrash that's
just incredibly enjoyable, and that's kind of what thrash was about.
It was a sort of reaction to the big long, progressive,
really very musical, the way the heavy rock had kind
(07:38):
of gone, and then Thrash was a lot more like, hey,
let's just get in the garage and make a noise, right.
You can hear that on Kill Them All. You can
hear it Unponded by Blood as well. You can even
hear it on Forbidden Evil, even though Forbidden Evil is
a little bit more tech, but it's still got that
kind of slight naivety to it that's just kind of
really enjoyable. And for all I'm saying that, I really
like the tech more tech developed Thrash. I absolutely love
(08:01):
a lot early stuff as well.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Well. What's interesting is like seeing the evolution and like
you're from further down the road. For me, it's fine.
Like I remember watching that Metal Show and Kirk Hammett
was on and Eddie Trunk had him rate all the
Metallic albums and the one he had last, which makes sense,
(08:23):
was Kill Mall. I don't know if the rest of
them would play it last, but he wasn't with that
same I mean, he wasn't with that. You know.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
He came in and basically recorded everything almost pretty much
the way that Dave Mustain had done it on the
original demos, exactly ifn the solos are kind of a I.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Even have the original demo from tape Trading. You can't
even tell what it is. It was recorded over like
fifty times. But that's a slice of history right there,
no doubt. But if you took the original thrash bands. Okay,
kill Mall's my favorite album. Okay, Show No Mercy is
my favorite album. Okay, killing is my business, but Business
(09:01):
is Good is my favorite album. Okay, and Anthrax, believe
it or not, the first one is my favorite album
with Neil. Even though I love Belladonna, I love Joey,
I love Beladonna, But it was like, because sometimes I
think it's because of nostalgia that week.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Of course, that's going to be a huge bar of it.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
And it's the soundtrack to your life, right and you're
a kid, and this is your first experience in metal,
absolutely and you went I went to like it'saw Metallica
and Slayer five hundred times before I was even eighteen.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
It's like you heard the shit over and over and
over again. Yeah, And like I was watching Metallica multiple
times before even Kill ma All came out when it
was supposed to be metal. Up your fucking ash. Yeah,
and it wasn't allowed to be you know.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
It is that rawness that and I think a lot
of people do that. Even I can take bring Me
to Rizin, the true bring me fans, the original ones.
They I hate everything after the very beginning because they
wanted that true death corn the beginning.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You always get fans like that. I think of every
band as a huge Iron Maiden fan. I meet people
all the time. Actually, because Paul Deiano died last year,
so many people came out and went, oh, my favorite
Maiden albums at the first two they're the two that
he was on.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Killers.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, I mean I love Killers. I love every Iron
Maiden album. Really, I'm just the nerd, an Iron Maiden nerd.
I've seen them like fifty five times. I followed them
around Europe. But I would never say that the Deiano
albums were my favorite ones. But a man, I love Killers.
When they brought Martin Birch on boards to produce, that
was the moment. Actually he made such a difference to
their sound. But the point is that you're always going
(10:39):
to get the people that just want the early stuff,
play classics. Those guys, I don't want to hear anything
you recorded after your first two years.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
As a brand. Now I have the other side of
that now that I'm older and mature, more mature. Yeah,
I understand the artist side of it. Like you want
to evolve, you want to get seater, you want to learn.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Of course you do know what the fuck they were
doing that. Your songwriting evolves completely as well. And when
you're young, you're quite happy to write songs that are
just like intro verse chorus, verse chorus, midlight chorus, that's
the end. And then after you've done that for a
little while, even a couple of years, you're you start
expanding and going, hey, let's stick another bit here, let's
(11:22):
put a weird time change in there. You end up
with songs for seven, eight nine minutes long, And like,
I love that. I love progressive thrash. Actually, I like
Vector's last album for me was just amazing and amazing
pinnacle of music. It's so technical, there are so many
riffs in every song. It's just mad. Their conceptual stuff
is just incredible. I love that. And that is what
(11:44):
I'm saying is like, I just love thrash. So there's
a place for the early stuff, and sometimes you just
want that raw aggression and sometimes you're in the mood
for something that's gonna take you places that are a
bit weird that you've never been before. You know.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Well, look, so two Seasons, that's the longest Mentale song ever.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, I don't love it. I have to say, there's
some all right stuff on the album.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
To me, it's more about to your point, what you're
saying is they were, but that's for them to write
exactest songs an experiment.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
That's just an experiment, you know. Yeah, totally, that's it.
And you see it with all bands. You see it
with Iron Maiden. You know, they went from writing running
Free to writing rhyme of the Ancient Mariner and in like
five or six years. You know, that's I mean, that's
a wild progression in terms of how you write songs.
And I think it happens to most artists because you're
a musician, you know, and you want to keep on
challenging yourself and you just want to do stuff that
(12:35):
you haven't done before, because it's boring to do the
same thing over and over and over again, no doubt
for you.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Well that's what I was gonna say too. Like your
first album, you play those songs on that first album
more times than any other song ever, because you've been
playing those songs before it was even an album, and
you're playing like every night trying to get nuhs, so
thousand hours i'd be like, fuck, I don't want to
play that song again.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Well, that's it. It happens to us. And to be honest,
we've got two albums. We're working on the third album
at the moment. But for the first album, the songs
are all about three minutes long and they're all pretty simple.
Then there's a gap of about five years before the
second album because we work quite slowly. You know, we're
not professed, like, it's not our job to be musicians.
We have to fit it in, so it takes us
a long time to write a whole album's worth a
(13:20):
material and record it. But five years later, by the
time the second album came around, the average song length
has gone up to like five and a half minutes,
maybe even pushing six minutes. We've got a lot of
long stuff on it. It goes to a lot of
different places that we would have never gone to on
the first album, and for me, that's far more interesting.
I love our second record, it's much better than the
first one. But there are people who say, oh, I
(13:40):
like your first album much more than the second one,
and you just have to go, well, that's fine, that's
what you're looking for.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
But then there's other people that say the opposite.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
So I think here's what you learn. Please yourself as
an ours because you're not going to please.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
But no, exactly. The only reason you do it is
for yourself.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
If you're just in it because you want to please
the fans, then you're doing it for the wrong reason.
Really are lucky to have fans, I mean, that's fantastic.
If you can make a career out of music, then
that then you're one of the luckiest people in the world.
Because it's very, very difficult to make money off music
these days, with the car work, the current model, and
it's so much hard work. And that's it, and that's
why we'll never be like full time professional musicians. It's
(14:16):
too much of a risk. And now we're too old
and we've got kids and all that kind of thing.
So you just fit it in around the rest of
your life. But you're still progressing as musicians and pushing
yourself all the time.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Totally tell everybody they can reach out to you on socials,
on the web, buy your merch. They can't listen to
my show, and let's they support you.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Okay, yeah, I mean we're called thrashist regime. We're from Scotland.
Who can get shirts and the albums at Fat Hippie Records,
dot co, dot UK, Amazon, Spotify, all the streaming services
dz are all those things. We're on all of them.
And yeah, just google us and you'll find us. I
think hopefully we're the only thrashest regime out there.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I would think so.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Oh I know one other thing too. I had somebody
that's dated a Scottish girl and as Scottish friends. Oh really,
how come you're the only Scottish person I can understand.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Because I don't have a Scottish accent because my parents
are English from ah, that makes sense for my sins.
Somebody has to be there, you go. But I was
born in Aberdeen. I am Scottish. The whole bander actually
old just from round Aberdeen.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Really nice. Yeah, anything else you want to share with
the listeners, we haven't covered already that they need to know.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Not really, just please check us out of the video
for headshots on YouTube. Go and check that out and
look out for us. Next year, we'll be releasing a
new album, all the materials written. We're recording it right
now and it's gonna kick your ass.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I'm sure will and you do kick ass. And thanks
for being on the Adventures of pipe Man.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Thanks for speaking to us.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Cheers.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Michelle Kerr was my press officer for my entire fucking
career here in the UK, my entire career with Machina.
She recently passed away and it was a very, very
sad day. And I can tell the other reason that
I'm gonna tell this story because she was family. She
(16:06):
was Bloodstock family.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
She was heavy metal UK family. Most of the bears
that you.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Know and love you probably heard of because of that
woman right there. Slip Knots, Slayer, Machinehead, Trivium, Killswitch, Engage, Hey, Breed,
you name it.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
She helped lift everybody up, man, She helped lift everybody up,
and in so many ways, she helped make this entire
music scene, this incredible, beautiful community that lives here at Bloodstock.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Man.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
She helped make it.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
So, ladies and.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Gentlemen, please make some noise from Michelle Kerr.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Thank you for listening to the adventures of plate Man.
I'm dove U force U I Radio
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Yeah.
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