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PipemanRadio Interviews Unnatural Order at Bloodstock Open Air 2025. 

The Pipeman Radio tour landed at The UK’s biggest independent metal festival featuring not only some of the biggest bands in Heavy Metal and Hard Rock, but also some of the best emerging metal music out of the UK and Europe competing in Metal 2 The Masses for a spot to play on New Blood Stage.  The festival also features The Sophie Lancaster Stage dedicated to the memory of Sophie being brutally beaten and murdered just for being Goth and different.  Sophie’s story particularly resonating with anyone who has been bullied, abused, or attacked for simply being who they are.  The mission of The Sophie Lancaster Foundation is to stamp out prejudice, hatred and intolerance everywhere.  This festival is more than just great music, fun, awareness, and togetherness.  It's a family driven DIY Festival that cares where there ar eno outsiders. We join together for a common cause.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey, you have done too. Yes, that's true for Sew
for you you. This is the pipe Man here on
the Adventures pipe Man W four c Y Radio and
I'm here.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
With Nathan from Unnatural Order.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Nice here at Bloodstock. How did you get to Bloodstock?

Speaker 2 (00:26):
So we took part in Metal to the Masses.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
This a regional basis competition organized through Bloodstock and the
winner gets to play on the New Blood stage.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
I just love Metal to the Masses and what I
love most about it is most of the bands that
are here that have won didn't think they were going
to win, in fact, that they thought other bands were
much better than them.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
We kind of fell into that group as well.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Actually, yeah, so tell us a little bit about the
experience with Metal to the Masses.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
So we ended last year, so twenty twenty four, and
we got to the final. So our band has only
been a band for just under two years. So we
entered last year. We were only a few months old
as a band, and it was a great experience and
we got to the final, which was quite a big
confidence boost.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
We assive too.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Not expected, but we got given our feedback of what
we could do better and what will just bring us
to the next level.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
And we entered this year.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
We had some lineup changes just due to various issues.
We got a new vocalist and a new bassist and
we are like a different band now, but for the
better as well.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Obviously we won this year.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
When we were in the final, all those bands were
brilliant and we were on last as well, so we
was watching them and each band that played, we was
getting more and more worried because we've got a top
that and we got to follow that and it was crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
That's and then why don't feel like when you actually won.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Well, I didn't realize that they said our ban because
I got out. I got too nervous and I kind
of just blanked out and I had to take a
second and I realized, oh my god, that's us. And
shortly after we were spoken to by Stewart, the guy
that runs the Kent Mells and Musses, and he told
us the vote was unanimous as well, which was a

(02:17):
real confidence.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Wow, that's amazing, And that's where you're front Kent.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
That's prett We're from Canterbury and Kent.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
So that's funny because when I flew in from the States,
I drove up here from London with some mad that's
from Kent who's a photographer here at the festival. So
it's like wild because it's like also and I'm meeting
all these people from Kent.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Oh is it the dude from Faversham.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
It's a girl. Her name's Danny.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
I know Danny, you really?

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
So I went to school with Danny's brother.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
That's so funny, because okay, it's funny how it worked out. Jasmine,
who is with Costinostra pr that does the festival here.
She had done some boasting about lost a ride, need
a ride up? So I message, I'm like, you know,
I'm flying in if you could get to London. She
said it's not for me, it's for my friend Danny,

(03:11):
and so then I talked to her. We met up
at Gatwick and drove up. We did a detour to
the Black Sabbath Bridge and now we're friends because she's
cool people. So it's kind of funny. And I'll have
to tell her about this.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Thing Nathan from Unatural Order.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, she's out there somewhere floating, I know, right, So
is it weird how the world works like a.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Place this big, with this many people, and it's still
small exactly.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
And that's the metal community one hundred percent, Like we're
just one big family.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
So describe to our listeners who have never seen you,
listen to you, how you would describe your music, not
genre label bullshit, but how you do are describe it,
and how you would describe your live show.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
So the music, there's so many influences in it.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
It's dark, sort of mysterious in ways, but at the
same time it's very energetic, so specifically in our live
shows to use backing tracks and sim players and things.
So I know you said not in terms of genre, but.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
I just.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
I mean, I mean there's a few genres that's in
it that I can live. So at the heart there
is metal core, but it's such a broad genre that
that you can't necessarily know exactly what a band sounds
like by them saying metal core. Yeah, but there is
influence in hardcore and industrial and like a lot of
like groove. I love that, almost like tribal in places,

(04:45):
but with a lot of energy.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
See.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Because nowadays that's the way to be unique, having all
kinds of different influences. Yeah, if you're just purely a
metalcore band and everybody in the band likes it, then
it's like you're going to sound the scene. Yeah, but
what you're doing makes you stay down unique and that's
probably a reason why you won too, I guess, And

(05:08):
it was unanimous.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
I mean, one thing that we do try to do
every time it is we do try to be as
cohesive and as a unit as possible, and I think
that definitely stood out to the judges.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
I think a lot of bands do so.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Nearly they're in that competition, like these bands, I could
have imagined any of those bands playing on that New
Blood stage. I think one thing that we do is
we're on stage and we look like we should be
in a band together, and we look like we're doing
it as a group as opposed to just someone playing guitar,
someone playing drums, because at the same time, you need.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
That, like that's what makes a band laugh. I can
be out there in the crowd and I can look
up and I can tell whether you like each other
or don't. Yeah, number one, you have to look like
you like each other. And I just saw an interview
with Toyaomi and said as he used to come up
to them the crowd didn't see it. They make faces
at them during your show, you know, and like just

(06:03):
fuck with them. That's what it should be like. You're
a family. And then it kind of sucks to travel
around in a little van with people you're not, yeah,
whining to be with. So I love that and I
think that's what makes you here at Bloodstock. Yeah, so
don't everybody they reach out to you on socials and

(06:24):
the web by your merch because they can't most do
my show, And let's say by your merch.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
They're setting up an online much store like as we speak,
that will be up the website name.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
I don't know yet.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
It will be along the lines of Unnatural Order, but
I imagine that's probably already taken from something. So we're on
all the socials, on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube. By searching, our
name will come up on Spotify, Apple Music, and all
the other streaming services as well.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Nice what else you got going on? How are you
gonna top Bloodstock? What you got going on app?

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Well, that's a very difficult question, isn't it right.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
I Mean, all we can really do is just network
with everyone and just promote ourselves as much as we
can and organize some shows with some of these other
new blood bands. We're in artists camping and there's some
main stage bands staying in there as well. So, I
mean I've made friends with the guys in Dead Flesh
that opened on the Sophie stage and yeah, so just
making friends with these bands and organizing shows around the

(07:17):
country as well, because everyone here is from different ends
of the country. Yeah, and it's a very good way
to schedule these gigs in areas you don't know, with
people that have already built up their local following and
people will be there and it's a really good way
to network and grow.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
That's a great idea, like you could do like a
new Blood tour.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we can get about four bands and
just schedule a lot of shows around in each of
our own areas.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, I'm pretty surely. So what is it that got
you into this, Like where that moment where you were like,
oh my god, this is what I need to do.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
I mean, I started playing guitar when I was fourteen,
but that was only really as a hobby. Yeah, I'd
been in a band when I was sixteen, Again it
was just a hobby. I've learned to play guitar, so
I thought, let's do something with that. I actually wanted
to be an artist, like fine art, right until I
left school and was about to choose my college course,
and I spoke to the people in the art department

(08:17):
and was about to apply for that, and just as
I was going back to the car, I turned around.
I was like, there's one more thing I wanted to
look at, and I went to the music department and
I spoke to one of the music tutors there, and
at that moment, I was like, no, this is what
I want to do. Just just the last minute change of
the decision, and I've followed it since.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
I love that story because like how many times some
people also go to college and they go in with
one idea and then they change their major. So and
there must have been something about that person at the
music department was that hit a light bulb in your head.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
It was very soft spoken and had very soft hands
when he shook my hand, so I guess that might
have helped.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
But no, it was just I don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
It was music was in the back of my head
the entire time, you know, playing guitar, and I don't know,
there was just something about it. At that moment in
time that I realized that I've made my decision.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
You know, well, that's cool and it's a badass at
you're here at Bloodstock and thanks for being on the
Adventures of Paper but thank you for having me my pleasure.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Michelle Kerr was my press officer for my entire fucking
career here in the UK, my entire career with Machinet.
She recently passed away and it was a very, very
sad day. And I can tell you the reason that
I'm going to tell this story is because she was family.

(09:43):
She was Bloodstock family. She was heavy metal UK family.
Most of the bars that you know mean love you
probably heard of because of that woman right there. Slivenot, Slayer,
her Machinehead, Trivium, kill Switch, Engage, Hey Reed, you name it.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
She helped lift everybody up.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
Man, She helped lift everybody up, and in so many
ways she helped make this entire music scene, this incredible,
beautiful community that lives here at Bloodstock.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Man, she helped make it.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
So, ladies and gentlemen, please make some noise from Michelle Kerr.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of plate Man
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