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W four WN Radio. I gotthe time And did you know women represent
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just three percent of Fortune five hundredCEOs and less than fifteen percent of corporate
execusatives at top companies worldwide. Haveyou wondered what the secrets are to getting
into the top ranks, whether inthe private or public sector. Do you
want to figure out how to stopbeing held back in your career? Are
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passed over for promotion, then you'rein the right place. Hi. I'm
doctor Mattlanann Lewis, President and CEOof the Executive Women's Success Institute. I
have decades of experience in the military, the federal government, and corporate America,
and my mission is to help womensucceed and tap into their full potential.
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I want to reach a million pluswomen around the world to become the
leaders they are meant to be.So if you want to move into a
management or executive level position, ormaybe you are a female veteran transitioning out
of the military into business entrepreneurship,then reach out to the Executive Women's Success
Institute at three zero one three twoeight four. Let us get you on
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the fast track to success. Well, Hello, and welcome to the Success
for Women's Show, where you canview us on Talk for TV and listen
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to us on the Women for WomenNetwork. I am doctor Madeline Anne lewis
your host, and my mission isto help women accelerate the path to success.
Well, my guest today is Achimcechern and the topic is going to
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be I am Chi, So we'regoing to have a great conversation with her
today, But let me just giveyou a little bit of background about her.
Achi is a speaker, certified lifecoach, and entrepreneur. Her global
mission is to motivate, inspire,empower and transform. She is passionate about
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helping others practically achieve and sustain theirdreams by actively and intentionally developing themselves.
From the stage. Chi uses candidand energetic storytelling to help companies and organizations
challenge their thinking and heighten personal awareness, which improves professional performance. She takes
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pleasure in sharing the personal experiences inorder to uplift and inspire audiences to the
next level. I'd like to bringon and introduce today my guests, missus
Chi mceitcher. Hi. Hello,talk to Madeline. Hi. It is
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so great to have you here onthe show today. I'm excited to hear
what you have to say, allthose great nuggets you're gonna share with us.
But here's the thing before we getstarted. I always give my audience
the standard bio on my guests,but I also like to ask my guests
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just tell us what you want usto know about h micahern. Well,
first of all, thank you forhaving me. It is an honor indeed
to be here, and thank youfor your service. Thank you for serving
our country. You're welcome. Soof course the bio said a lot,
but other than that, what Iwould want your audience to know is that
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I am a woman who deeply believesin the power and the importance of mindset.
I believe that our mindset controls everyfacet of our lives, from the
small things to the big things.And I think that when we walk into
any situation and we look at ourmindset and where that is around that particular
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situation or subject, that is wherethe change happens. And when I think
about the power of mindset and improvingyour mindset, That's been a part of
my foot print since I was alittle girl. My parents, we said
earlier, I live in Naples,Florida, but I was born in Cleveland,
Ohio. My parents were born thereas well, and they left Cleveland,
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Ohio. My mom got pregnant whenshe was seventeen, dropped out of
high school. My dad dropped outof high school at fourteen and had to
live on his own. But theyhad us, got married, and they
decided to uprook their lives leave Cleveland, which was a big deal back there.
You don't leave Cleveland. So theyloved Cleveland. Moved to Atlanta,
Georgia. Completely transformed our lives.And when you look at the history of
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or look at their childhood and howthey grew up, statistics would say that
their future was bleakd but the lifethat they gave us the complete opposite of
what they had. What I knownow is the result of improving their mindset
along the way and not accepting thestatus quo and not just going along with
what they see growing up, butto sharpen themselves and better themselves. And
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so that lesson. I didn't evenrealize that until I got an adult.
That lesson has been in me ofbeing aware of how you think and why
you think. Since I was justa little girl. Wow, that's amazing,
you know, that is amazing becausethey were really young. Really,
yeah, they were really young.Yeah, they were really young, and
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you would think that being that young, they wouldn't have had that. I
don't know. I guess the mindsetto do the things that they did and
work right. Yeah, and thisis before like conferences and like s healthy.
Like there's just something innate in them. And I'm sure when they got
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together they made each other stronger becausethey they were together. To say,
since my dad, I want tosay, my dad was eighteen or nineteen
yet, so they were together young. So to do what they did,
I mean, we moved to Georgia, had an apartment, and then they
got into a bunch of debt paidoff all their debt, lived by cash.
I remember them cutting up their creditcards and then get back to the
credit card agency like back in theday, you know. And they built
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a house for us, like fromthe ground up. None of us that
this was like what, we're buildinga house? Who does that? What's
going to happen? We were goinglike every week and see the progress that
this is going to be your bedroomand this is going to be our bedroom.
It's nothing they had ever seen before. And I remember while I was
watching some of your previous episodes andone of your guests said, you don't
have to see it to be it, yes, And that reminded me of
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that they had never seen anyone elevatetheir lives in that way. But it
was their mindset and their determination andtheir perseverance that allowed them at a young
age to continually progress. So that'syour mindset. Seeing them do what they
did sure had a lot to dowith shaping you and the you know,
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the journey that you're on right now. Absolutely, it absolutely did. And
now I always tell people like especiallywith kids, more as caught than talk.
So they never sat down and said, okay, what we're doing is
this And when you get older,you there was never a lecture. There
was never it was just a watchingand an examining sports. And it's like
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huh. And again as I gotolder, it's putting two and two together,
like, oh, this is whatwas actually happening here. You know.
In my young mind, it's like, oh, we moved here,
then we did this, and wedid that. Okay, I want to
switch schools, you know, buton the grand scheme, it's like,
no, they had to sharpen themselves, yes, to be able to move
out of what was projected for themand projected for their lives. Wow,
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that is awesome. So tell usbecause, like I said, with what
you experienced coming up, tell us, how did you get into coaching and
speaking? I mean, what broughtyou into that arena? Yeah, so
if you allow my dad to tellthe story, I came out of my
mother's room talking and asking questions.That was never a problem for me,
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and I've always had a very inquisitivemind. So I've always just wanted to
know why and ask questions. Andmy brain is like logistical. I like
to know how things work now,you know, growing up, you know,
within a household with my parents fromthat era, the worst thing you
can do is ask your parents why, and the worst you can do is
talk about And so I can troublea lot growing up. But the thing
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was, I wasn't being defiant,like I wasn't like being rude, because
I had major respect for my parents. But when I look at it now,
I really I wanted to know howthings worked. Yeah, I wanted
to plead my case, and Ijust wanted to know what if you think
this, well, that's not accurate. So I'm punishment for something that didn't
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actually happen. So we have totransform that thinking. Care for not having
it? Wow? Oh, They'relike, no, I don't care.
I don't care you're talking about I'mnot talking back when I'm really asking.
If no, if you're talking,then you're talking aback. But I learned
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from an early age that if youcommunicate something effectively, you can change a
dynamic. Okay, if you communicatesomething effectively, you can change someone's thinking,
you can transform the way they seesomething. And I picked up on
that early on, and of coursethey were shutting it down. But I'm
like, but listen, if youjust hear my part of the story,
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you know what I mean. Andthen just as years of progress and just
being a talker. As they wouldsay, I always found myself in the
front of the room, even beforeI started doing it professionally, no matter
what I did, if it wasif I was in a business, a
company, doing some sort of training, in the church, whatever it was,
I found myself in the front,in the front of the room with
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the mic in my hand. Andas you know, public speaking is like
the second worst fear in the world, next to die hotel. While most
people would rather die than to getup and speak, I'm like, well,
where's the mic. Just give methe mic to say, well,
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I I bet I can. Ican literally say. You are one of
those people as a woman that donot enter the room and sit in the
back of the room. You're likegoing up to the front because you want
to know where the mic is andbe near the mic. Okay, yes,
I want to know where the micis. I want to know what's
being said on the mic. Iwant to get all the information. That's
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just always in my personality. Mydad has a big personality as well,
but he is not comfortable speaking infront of large groups. So I'm like,
where's the mic, Let's go andwhenever like someone wanted to, even
if it was a wedding or justanything where someone needed to address the crowd,
be it planned or not, they'relike, hi, here, give
a And so I always found myselfthere and just over the years honing my
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skills and things of that nature.It became a profession. And as far
as coaching gets concerned, you know, they always say, if you want
to know who you are, lookat who you were when you were a
child. And I used to havethis really funny saying that. A friend
of mine and I joke about that. I used to say when I was
younger, I would say I amthe giver of truth. And I would
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walk around saying that all the time, and we would laugh about like,
oh ah, you're just being sosilly, but I would say, no,
I'm the giver of truth. AndI will always like give these really
powerful perspectives to people, or someonewould say something to me and like I
would just be able to navigate thesituation and like, no, this is
what needs to happen, this iswhat I'm seeing, you know, and
then you know it's just it wasjust who I was, and so over
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the years, yeah, yeah,wow, just kidd. You know,
I could just see you walking around. It's to you walking around doing that.
You know, you got your peoplegoing to school, you got your
books in your hands. Somebody said, am the giver of truth? Okay,
and I got that term from likereally, wow, he's my best
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my best friend. It's still friendstoday. We're about to celebrate thirty years
of friendship. As a matter offact, and we still joke about that.
You never used to run around sayyou were a giver of truth.
I'm like, look what am Idoing? Now? There you go.
You are manifesting that right back then? Okay, exactly. But I officially
got certified, so instead of justbeing, you know, just a willing
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nearly give her a truth, Igot certified nine years ago. So I've
been certified for almost ten years now. And it really makes me come alive
when I am coaching, like speakingcoaching, they go hand in hand to
me. But whether I'm doing groupcoaching, what I'm doing one on one
coaching, whatever it is, itmakes me come alive because I know the
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power of perspective. Yeah, andI know that your perspective on a thing
can change the trajectory of your life. Yes, And sometimes we just get
so stuck and we just need someoneto say, oh no, just move
this over here, just move thatover there, and let me just show
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you a mirror of how awesome youactually are. And something as simple as
that can just change someone's life,make them come alive, and it's like
they're more bold, they have moreconfidence, they're doing things that maybe they
didn't have the courage to do before, just from someone saying no, let
me tell you who you really are. Yes, you know, And so
that it warms my heart, Ittruly does. Wow. Now I know
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that you speak selves on limiting beliefs. Yes, to tell us what are
limiting beliefs, because I can sayright now, I'm not seeing that you
have now, But tell us whatare limiting beliefs? Well, we all
have them, we absolutely all havethem. But my personal definition of limiting
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beliefs that I created on my own, so if you go to Google this
will not come up, but justin my study and working with clients and
the existence of that nature, mydefinition is continual thoughts or beliefs that you've
learned or observed about yourself, others, or life that you accept you implement
as truth that prevents you from becomingyour full authentic self. Okay, So
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it's those things that maybe you learnfrom your parents, or you know,
your leaders, or a bully atschool, or some kind of concept or
idea of thought about yourself that you'vegot. I'm not good enough, I'm
not smart enough, I'm not wiseenough. I don't have the credentials that
I need. But I can't climbup the corporate ritter, doctor Matt,
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I don't have what it takes.I'm going to be stuck here. You
know, those are limiting beliefs,things that are stopping you. I can
only be, you know, awife and a mom. I can't be
a businesswoman like whatever. It isthe beliefs that are stopping you. I
like to say, wherever you feelstuck, stagnant, or stationary, there
is a limiting belief that is invadingyour thoughts. Wow. Wow, So
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why do you feel it's important toexamine your limiting beliefs because that is what
will allow you to go to thenext level. We all have big dreams,
we have aspirations. When we arelying in bed at night and the
house is quiet and no one isaround, no matter what we've done throughout
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the day or what we're doing inour life. We have things that we're
thriving for on a micro level anda macro level. And I believe that
the first step in any level oftransformation is awareness. And in order to
become a way or to become aware, you first have to ask yourself deep,
meaningful questions. And I think oneof the most powerful questions you can
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ask yourself about a belief or howyou see something is but why? But
why? Why do I believe that? Why do I think I can't start
this business? Why do I believeI can't climb the corporate ladder. Why
do I believe I won't be successful? Why do I believe I can't lose
this weight? Why do I believeI can't buy a new hull? Why
do I believe I can't relocate?Yes, And when you start asking yourself
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those questions and identifying the beliefs thatare stopping you from achieving whatever those goals
are, again, micro macro couldbe something as I don't think I can
cook. I have a friend whoshe always say I need a great cook.
I can't cook. I'm not agreat cook. When she decided that
this is going to be the yearthat she learned how to cook, because
we all know cooking gives a larnedskill. Right, Yes, she's an
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amazing cook. Wow. Now becauseshe decided, you know, why would
what's not saying I wasn't a cookcook, I never even gave myself the
chance. So she started getting cookbooksand looking at recipes online, and now
she's able to like put stuff togetheron her own and she creates these beautiful
gourmet meals from the woman six monthsago that said I need cook. So
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just something as small as that,but that can go from something like that
to something as large as don't wantto start a business, I want to
build an empire. It's the sameprocess of examining your thoughts and then what
you're assigning meaning to because our thoughtsand beliefs only have the meanings that we
assigned to them. Right. Soif I say Cleveland, Ohio is significant
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to me, well, Cleveland,Ohio may not be significant to you.
So the meaning for me is wheremy parents grew up childhood. I lived
here until I was four. Ihave aunts, uncles, and cousins.
You know, maybe a song helistened to, Oh, well, this
was a song that we're reminded meof when I was a child. But
you hear that song, You're like, never heard of it before? Right?
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You know what I'm saying. Sothe same thing with our thoughts and
beliefs, we attached meaning to it, and we have to ask ourselves why
have I attached this meaning to it? And then if it's causing me to
be stuck, stacking or stationary,how can I move away from that?
Wow? Wow, that is interesting. So tell us about your journey and
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how and why you started, youknow, to examine your own limiting beliefs.
Yes, so I have been inthe personal development space for years as
long as I can well, Ican say as long as I can remember.
I'll say in my twenties, mymid to late twenties, I started
becoming interested in personal development conferences,reading different books and things of that nature.
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And so I was already on thejourney of just like self improvement.
But when everything changed for me ina deep way is when I got pregnant
with our son. With my son, and I said I didn't want to
have any kids. I had plentyof nieces, nephews, got children,
mentees. I was like the youngand free childless aunt that would take in
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all the kids and then send themback on to their parents, you know,
just have fun with them. Butour son was I call them a
beautiful surprise. Because I got pregnantsix years into the marriage. I'm like,
oh my god, what are wegoing to do? And it's like,
we're going to raise the child,That's what we're gonna do. And
so me becoming pregnant, I hadto ask myself questions that I did not
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ask myself before because I didn't thinkI was gonna have kids. And it
just it prompted a lot of thingsin me, and it made me realize,
Okay, because just thinking, I'ma deep thinker. So it's like,
okay, well, even though you'retwo months pregnant, the child's going
to be here in a few months, you know. And even though they
don't come out talking or understanding youknow, deep concepts, at some point,
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you're gonna have to teach them aboutlife. Yeah, And so I
start asking myself, well, whatdo you want to teach him? What
do you want him to know?What what you know? Belief structure do
you want him to have? Whatare you going to teach him about God?
What are you going to teach himabout, you know, his personal
sovereignty? What are you going toteach him about his personal power and his
confidence and what he can do andnot do? Like what are you going
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to teach him? Like? Howare you going to do this? And
I started examining, when I tellyou, doctor Madlin, I examined from
the top to the bottom all ofmy beliefs, things that I was afraid
to tell people. I was questioningbecause it's just, you know, some
of those things you just learn asa child, and this is just what
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we believe, because this is whatour family believe, this is what our
answers is believe, and this iswhat we're taught to believe, or this
is the way of life, andthis is the way you do things.
I just and I said, Idon't want to just pass down stuff for
the sake of passing stuff down.When was the last time anybody has been
intentional about what we believe, notjust saying I'm going to teach them this
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because my grandmother said this is theright way, and then her great grandmother
said this is the right like whatwas true that there's you know, there
is a thing of you know oftimeless wisdom that's passed down. But there's
also some things that were true forour family members that are no longer true
for us. I mean, whenI think about my own life, it's
things that were true for me tenyears ago that are absolutely not true for
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me today. Yes, you know, I was a different woman ten years
ago, five years ago, twoyears ago. So I had to do
like a rehaul. And I remembereven thinking about growing up with my parents
and I would, you know,ask why about things? And the answer
was because I said so yeah,And I mean, and you know,
I could get it there, likeyou know, you don't question authority.
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But it's like I'm asking you whybecause I'm trying to formulate my own belief
Yes, I'm not trying to bedisrespectful. I'm trying to formulate what I
believe and how I want to showup in this world. So even now
my son is six, I allowhim to ask me why. I allow
him to probe me. I allowhim to dig deep and challenge me,
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even at six. I want himto because what I don't want you to
do is go out in the worldand accept what they have to say about
you. Absolutely, if someone saidsomething or call you something or tells you
what you can't do. You're gonnalook at them as if they're calling you
a bird, like what bird?What do you mean? I can't do
that? Really lose? Of courseI can. I can accomplish this that
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that's what you're saying is not true. But that comes from instealing that.
But I had to evaluate what Ithought and believed about myself m h.
In my own confidence levels and whatI saw possible in order to say,
okay, son, this is thisand that is that and again he's so
we're still in the beginning stages,but I am I have because of undoing
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all of those things. I havemore confidence and how he's raised right,
things that I share with him,and how I even allow him to explore
you know what I mean and theymean mine. You know, when he's
in a situation where someone may bedoing something that kind of borderline not right
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or whatever, he can make uphis own mind. Am I gonna go
with the crowd or am I gonnastand on what I've been taught, my
values, what I know you know, is right, and not worry about
if they're gonna be you know,not like me anymore. You know,
how kids now, especially nowadays kidsare into the senior school. Everybody they
want everybody to like them, andso to do that, they go along
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with whatever is going on. Butif you that where withal to think for
your self, to believe that whatyour decision is right for you exactly following
someone off for Cliff, you know, exactly exactly. Wow. And he's
actually already at that stage where he'slike, I think that's the right thing
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to do. That's not very pride. I think you're breaking the room.
M m. Sometimes he takes itoverboard, but I know he gets that
because I have already taught him andcontinuing to teach him how to speak up
for himself, how to be firmin his beliefs and what he stands for.
You know. So he's already youknow, exhibiting that good That's great,
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That is awesome. So how canthis way of thinking be applied to
women in the professional space? Yeah, So, like we mentioned earlier,
this crosses barriers of all areas inlife. And when I think about even
the work that you're doing, doctorMadeline. You know I've heard you say
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that you even work on mindset withyour clients because if a woman wants to
climb the ranks, the first thingshe has to work on is her mind
around being able to claim the ranksexactly. Yeah, Because if she works
with you, and you know,you're doing all this mental work and all
or doing all this work and strategy, but deep down she doesn't believe in
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her heart that she can have exactly, it doesn't matter. Yeah. And
so even that in the professional field, like whatever it is you're going for,
you first have to know that youare worthy, yeah, that you
are enough that you can accomplish whateverit is you set your mind to,
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yes, And if you don't,that is where the work of limiting beliefs
come in because you have to askwhy don't I feel like I can accomplish
this, Why don't I feel worthyenough? Why don't I feel like I'm
enough? And things that I haveworked with clients on that have been you
know, revealed as I mean somethinglike I don't think I can climb the
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ranks and make more money because thatwould mean that I would make more money
than my husband, And according towhat I've been taught and what I believe,
the man has to be the breakyeah. Yeah. And so not
realizing that they are subconsciously sabotaging themselvesbecause of a belief that was rooted,
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not because their mom, grandmother,aunt uncle said hey, little Susie,
you better never make more to yourhusband. But that's because that's what they
but just because that's what they alwayssaw, thought exactly exactly, And so
the pattern was the man is thegreat woman when or the woman she's you
know, she's me the homemaker.But if she's not the homemaker and she
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happens to have a job or sheshe will still be the homemaker and have
a job. You want to bea home mak her and she will have
a job, but she will justcontribute. She won't be the bread winner,
right because then if she's the breadwinner, then that would mean that
she's going to be, you know, taking the role of the leader of
the home. And we don't wantto make the man feel lesson and so
not knowing that all of that chatteris what's at play. And so then
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when the position or opportunity presents itselfto elevate yourself in the workplace, you're
like, oh, no, Ican't do it. I'm not exactly if
in line with what I what Isay is on my talk when I talk
about, you know, how menwill apply for a position when they have
only sixty percent of the requirements,But a woman will look at that same
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exact posting and she feels she hasto have chance to be able to check
every box one hundred percent before shewill apply. What's difference if they have
sixty you have sixty. What's thedifference? But she will not apply if
she doesn't feel she has one hundredpercent of the requirements. And it's it
just me yes. And that's themindset because the men feel like they can
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step into that position and what theydon't, they'll learn it, you know.
But most women won't take that typeof attitude. They won't, they
will not. Yes, right,And that's an area where you would ask
yourself deep questions like why do Ido that to myself? Yes, absolutely,
and giving yourself the space to tellyourself the truth, to tell yourself
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the truth and then put the stepsin place to make the change. M
hm wow. And so I guessthat brings us into the next question.
If someone wanted to start the journeyof identifying and examining their own limiting beliefs,
where would you suggest that they startthat whole process. Yeah, so
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awareness, awareness is the first stepany level of transformation, any level of
anything. I mean, before youget before you t take off of the
plane, the pilot has to knowwhere he's going. So hope, So
I gotta stop because I thought aboutsomething. I remember when I was in
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the military and we were going Ithink we were going to uh Fort Apa.
We were going to Fort Chaffy.That's where we're going, and from
where I lived. To get there, you had to take these little small
planes, you know, And oneof them got on and the pilots the
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door to where the pilot said thatit was open, and I happened to
look over and you know, justto see, and they were sitting and
I saw him pull out a map, and I thought, oh, that
was my first thought. I can'tbelieve he's pulling out a map and we're
about to get in the air andneed he obviously don't really know where he's
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go He should have been pulling thatout prior to hell so that I wouldn't
see it. That just came,Oh my gosh, I would have been
terrified, like getting lost, Itell you what that was. That was
definitely an experience and you know,uh, military can't just say Okay,
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he don't know where he's going,I want to get off here. It's
like I'm right, oh's exactly.That's the point, Like you have to
know where you're starting, right,And I always say, in order to
do that, you have to beyou have to get quiet with yourself.
We get so busy doing because wehave responsibilities, right always, Yeah,
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yeah, we have lots of responsibilities. We wear a lot of hats,
we do a lot of things,we have a lot of tasks. But
it's like we get so busy doingthat we never be we're not being mm
hmm. But in order to reallystop the patterns and the habits and the
self sabotaging behavior, we have tofirst get quiet, and we have to
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first have awareness of, Okay,this is where I actually am. No
matter what kind of journeys on,I want on a weight loss journey.
And it's like, okay, Iwas afraid to step on the scale and
admit to myself where I was.How can you expect to go on this
journey and to get healthier if youwon't even step on the scale and say,
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oh, this is where I am, or even if it's a you
know, a health journey and notwanting to get your blood taken or your
your your numbers ran and or oryou know, test done. Like you
have to know where you are tomake improvements to where you want to be
exactly. That's definitely the first step. Wow, wow, it's it is
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you know when you think about it. Though a lot of people don't do
that. They don't sit down anroute you know where, because, like
you say, you have to ifyou're going on a journey, and no
matter what it is, you know, like you said, the weight loss,
or if you're trying to move upor you know, you first of
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all, you need to know Ialways say, you know, got to
have some clarity questions. You needto know why you want to do it
in the first place, because that'sanother thing. You need to know why
you want to do it. Butonce you if you know why, you
know whatever that read, whatever thatwhy is, then you have to figure
out, okay, then what's keepingyou from doing it? And I noticed
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there are times, especially individuals thattend to work in the and I noticed
that tend to work in a federalgovernment. They get so complacent in the
positions that they're in that a lotof times don't want to move. And
so you're why I can't get promoted. Well, maybe you just can't get
promoted in that particular office or inthat particular right. It requires you to
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do something different, exactly exactly,but it's the comfortability, you know,
comfortability. They don't want to movebecause it's what they know. You know,
I'm used to this, I'm usedto these people. I'm used to
coming in at a certain time andI can leave at a certain time.
Well, if you're trying to moveup the ladder, these things are going
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to have to change. Yeah,well, you're absolutely right. You know.
I like to say that our growthand evolution requires something of us.
Yes, and we like to justsay, oh I want this and I
want that, and I want todo this and I want to do that.
But we don't leave room what wehave to do to get it,
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because it's not going to just fallfrom the sky. And you know,
sometimes people think, and that's whyI also say, no one owes you
a promotion. They don't. Noone owes you a promotion, and so
you do have to work for it. You know, you can't there and
think, you know, just becauseyou're GS. Whatever the next next GS
level that comes up, you're automaticallysupposed to get it. That's not true,
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and a lot of times that's whatthey feel, like, Oh,
well, my position goes you know, it's seven nine eleven. So in
the year I'm supposed to get I'ma seven down a year I'm supposed to
get my nine not necessarily what you'redoing to earn it? What are you
doing to get there? How areyou blocking yourself or either how are you
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making yourself visible so that they knowdo you know the nine level? So
it's like you say, and sometimesit's because of fear. You know.
Once they get to that eleven,then they stop like, oh, I
can't go any further because my positiondoesn't go any further. Well, then
that means you have to look forsomething else, don't you think? Right?
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If you want to grow now youwant to stay the same. If
you want to you want to grow, then you gotta do something different here
kick in or that the limiting beliefs, that's when that kicks in, because
at that point it's like, ohno, now I know, you know,
they really have to start reaching forsomething. And that's where yes,
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they have to start reaching now forwhat they want. It's not automatic.
It's not going to be given toyou. You have to start reaching or
you have to start doing some work, and you have to start doing some
work on yourselves. Absolutely, yeah, that's the thing, because then the
next thing is a lot of timesyou don't realize that the growth that we
want, the promotion that we want, we have to become the person that
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can sustain that. And many timesthe reason why those things are coming to
fruition because we have to become aperson that can even handle something like that.
Really absolutely, so that's the thingof it requiring something of you.
Of yes, doing your due diligenceand applying in those things of that nature.
But like you said, that workon yourself, because if you want
to be a person in an elevatedposition, you have to behave in an
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elevate way, and your beliefs andhow you show up and how you see
yourself and how you see others,like it requires an elevation of all of
you, and we like to especiallyin the professional space, is a big
part your mindset. Like you said, your beliefs, don't sta all that
place a big part in it.It really really does place a big part.
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So if there was one thing orone piece of advice you could tell
women, what would that be.It would be to remember who you are.
Remember who you are. Like Isaid, women are powerful, and
we are capable, and we arestrong and we are multi faceted. That
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we have been tricked into believing thatwe are not enough. Oh my goodness,
yes, like I said, we'rethe greatest resource on this planet.
Yeah, but we have been trickedinto believing who we are. We do
all the things. Look at thejust any woman one moment that does one
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thing, Yeah, just one thing. Yeah. And it's like we are
so powerful and I mean the waywe carry ourselves, in the way that
we can do things that we havebeen tricked out of it, I think,
and we've been tricked into believing thatwe're not back. Yeah. And
so in order to elevate and reachthose goals, we have to first remember
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who am I Who am amazing,I am powerful. I can do this.
Even if I don't have everything thatI need, I would be connected
with someone that will help me getwhat I need. You know what I
mean, Like it's always an answerthat that will find me. And knowing
him believing that. But you haveto first sit and say, no,
I can do this. I amborn for this. Whatever I even desiring
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is desiring me. Like, waita minute, it's like you have to
have a recomend of sorts. Yes, like a pull on your own collar.
Absolutely right about that. Wow,I tell you, so tell us
h E, what is next?What's next? What do you have coming
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up on the horizon that you mightwant us to know about? Anything you
want to share with us? Yeah. So I actually have a free resource
for your audience. It is aseven step process to identifying and releasing limiting
beliefs. I actually came up withthis framework that I do by one on
one client. But there's a freeresource that I have available for your audience.
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If they go to the fight Ithink you have. I see it
strolling on the screen. Yeah,they episode that they can get the information
to get it. Yeah, thelink. Yes, that is an amazing
it's more than a first step.Like I said, it's seven steps,
but it is an amazing resource toreally journal, ask yourself those meaningful questions,
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really dig deep so you can seewhat are the things that are stopping
you from from where you want togo? And where you want to be.
Wow. So if our audience wantedto reach out to you to get
more information to maybe work with youin some way, how can they find
you? Yes, they can findme my website if I am chi dot
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com and on there if you wouldlike me to speak to your audience,
or I do group coaching, Ido one on one coaching as well.
I have all the information there.I might also be reached via email Hello
at imachi dot com, on Facebookat mckeechern, and I am on Instagram
at Chi Denise. And I'm alsoon LinkedIn, so I'm everywhere you type
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in my name, it's just you. That's where I followed you on LinkedIn,
so I definitely know you're on LinkedIn. Yes, I am all over
the place, so you type in. My name is unique. So you
type my name in and you willfind me all the places. Yes,
and make sure you put it asa C H I E and not H
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H I E. Yes, thathappens. I kept saying, well,
why isn't it coming up? Iknow she's there, and then I looked
at it. I said, that'sbecause you're putting the R and then I
kept get this guy coming up butit's not a guy. And then you
know what, all of the way, she's a c H I E.
I love it. I love it. Thank you so much for joining us
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today and sharing your great nuggets withus. It was a pleasure. It
definitely was a pleasure to have youon the show. So thank you for
having me. This has been amazing. It's an honor to be here.
I enjoyed my time with you.Thank you so much for having me.
Thank you. So I am nowgonna let everyone know what's coming up next,
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Well, my guest today is Achimcechern and the topic is going to
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today, But let me just giveyou a little bit of background about her.
Achi is a speaker, certified lifecoach, and entrepreneur. Her global
mission is to motivate, inspire,empower and transform. She is passionate about
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From the stage. Chi uses candidand energetic storytelling to help companies and organizations
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next level. I'd like to bringon and introduce today my guests, missus
Chi mceitcher. Hi. Hello,talk to Madeline. Hi. It is
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so great to have you here onthe show today. I'm excited to hear
what you have to say, allthose great nuggets you're gonna share with us.
But here's the thing before we getstarted. I always give my audience
the standard bio on my guests,but I also like to ask my guests
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just tell us what you want usto know about h micahern. Well,
first of all, thank you forhaving me. It is an honor indeed
to be here, and thank youfor your service. Thank you for serving
our country. You're welcome. Soof course the bio said a lot,
but other than that, what Iwould want your audience to know is that
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I am a woman who deeply believesin the power and the importance of mindset.
I believe that our mindset controls everyfacet of our lives, from the
small things to the big things.And I think that when we walk into
any situation and we look at ourmindset and where that is around that particular
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situation or subject, that is wherethe change happens. And when I think
about the power of mindset and improvingyour mindset, That's been a part of
my foot print since I was alittle girl. My parents, we said
earlier, I live in Naples,Florida, but I was born in Cleveland,
Ohio. My parents were born thereas well, and they left Cleveland,
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Ohio. My mom got pregnant whenshe was seventeen, dropped out of
high school. My dad dropped outof high school at fourteen and had to
live on his own. But theyhad us, got married, and they
decided to uprook their lives leave Cleveland, which was a big deal back there.
You don't leave Cleveland. So theyloved Cleveland. Moved to Atlanta,
Georgia. Completely transformed our lives.And when you look at the history of
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or look at their childhood and howthey grew up, statistics would say that
their future was bleakd but the lifethat they gave us the complete opposite of
what they had. What I knownow is the result of improving their mindset
along the way and not accepting thestatus quo and not just going along with
what they see growing up, butto sharpen themselves and better themselves. And
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so that lesson. I didn't evenrealize that until I got an adult.
That lesson has been in me ofbeing aware of how you think and why
you think. Since I was justa little girl. Wow, that's amazing,
you know, that is amazing becausethey were really young. Really,
yeah, they were really young.Yeah, they were really young, and
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you would think that being that young, they wouldn't have had that. I
don't know. I guess the mindsetto do the things that they did and
work right. Yeah, and thisis before like conferences and like s healthy.
Like there's just something innate in them. And I'm sure when they got
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together they made each other stronger becausethey they were together. To say,
since my dad, I want tosay, my dad was eighteen or nineteen
yet, so they were together young. So to do what they did,
I mean, we moved to Georgia, had an apartment, and then they
got into a bunch of debt paidoff all their debt, lived by cash.
I remember them cutting up their creditcards and then get back to the
credit card agency like back in theday, you know. And they built
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a house for us, like fromthe ground up. None of us that
this was like what, we're buildinga house? Who does that? What's
going to happen? We were goinglike every week and see the progress that
this is going to be your bedroomand this is going to be our bedroom.
It's nothing they had ever seen before. And I remember while I was
watching some of your previous episodes andone of your guests said, you don't
have to see it to be it, yes, And that reminded me of
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that they had never seen anyone elevatetheir lives in that way. But it
was their mindset and their determination andtheir perseverance that allowed them at a young
age to continually progress. So that'syour mindset. Seeing them do what they
did sure had a lot to dowith shaping you and the you know,
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the journey that you're on right now. Absolutely, it absolutely did. And
now I always tell people like especiallywith kids, more as caught than talk.
So they never sat down and said, okay, what we're doing is
this And when you get older,you there was never a lecture. There
was never it was just a watchingand an examining sports. And it's like
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huh. And again as I gotolder, it's putting two and two together,
like, oh, this is whatwas actually happening here. You know.
In my young mind, it's like, oh, we moved here,
then we did this, and wedid that. Okay, I want to
switch schools, you know, buton the grand scheme, it's like,
no, they had to sharpen themselves, yes, to be able to move
out of what was projected for themand projected for their lives. Wow,
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that is awesome. So tell usbecause, like I said, with what
you experienced coming up, tell us, how did you get into coaching and
speaking? I mean, what broughtyou into that arena? Yeah, so
if you allow my dad to tellthe story, I came out of my
mother's room talking and asking questions.That was never a problem for me,
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and I've always had a very inquisitivemind. So I've always just wanted to
know why and ask questions. Andmy brain is like logistical. I like
to know how things work now,you know, growing up, you know,
within a household with my parents fromthat era, the worst thing you
can do is ask your parents why, and the worst you can do is
talk about And so I can troublea lot growing up. But the thing
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was, I wasn't being defiant,like I wasn't like being rude, because
I had major respect for my parents. But when I look at it now,
I really I wanted to know howthings worked. Yeah, I wanted
to plead my case, and Ijust wanted to know what if you think
this, well, that's not accurate. So I'm punishment for something that didn't
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actually happen. So we have totransform that thinking. Care for not having
it? Wow? Oh, They'relike, no, I don't care.
I don't care you're talking about I'mnot talking back when I'm really asking.
If no, if you're talking,then you're talking aback. But I learned
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from an early age that if youcommunicate something effectively, you can change a
dynamic. Okay, if you communicatesomething effectively, you can change someone's thinking,
you can transform the way they seesomething. And I picked up on
that early on, and of coursethey were shutting it down. But I'm
like, but listen, if youjust hear my part of the story,
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you know what I mean. Andthen just as years of progress and just
being a talker. As they wouldsay, I always found myself in the
front of the room, even beforeI started doing it professionally, no matter
what I did, if it wasif I was in a business, a
company, doing some sort of training, in the church, whatever it was,
I found myself in the front,in the front of the room with
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the mic in my hand. Andas you know, public speaking is like
the second worst fear in the world, next to die hotel. While most
people would rather die than to getup and speak, I'm like, well,
where's the mic. Just give methe mic to say, well,
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I I bet I can. Ican literally say. You are one of
those people as a woman that donot enter the room and sit in the
back of the room. You're likegoing up to the front because you want
to know where the mic is andbe near the mic. Okay, yes,
I want to know where the micis. I want to know what's
being said on the mic. Iwant to get all the information. That's
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just always in my personality. Mydad has a big personality as well,
but he is not comfortable speaking infront of large groups. So I'm like,
where's the mic, Let's go andwhenever like someone wanted to, even
if it was a wedding or justanything where someone needed to address the crowd,
be it planned or not, they'relike, hi, here, give
a And so I always found myselfthere and just over the years honing my
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skills and things of that nature.It became a profession. And as far
as coaching gets concerned, you know, they always say, if you want
to know who you are, lookat who you were when you were a
child. And I used to havethis really funny saying that. A friend
of mine and I joke about that. I used to say when I was
younger, I would say I amthe giver of truth. And I would
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walk around saying that all the time, and we would laugh about like,
oh ah, you're just being sosilly, but I would say, no,
I'm the giver of truth. AndI will always like give these really
powerful perspectives to people, or someonewould say something to me and like I
would just be able to navigate thesituation and like, no, this is
what needs to happen, this iswhat I'm seeing, you know, and
then you know it's just it wasjust who I was, and so over
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the years, yeah, yeah,wow, just kidd. You know,
I could just see you walking around. It's to you walking around doing that.
You know, you got your peoplegoing to school, you got your
books in your hands. Somebody said, am the giver of truth? Okay,
and I got that term from likereally, wow, he's my best
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my best friend. It's still friendstoday. We're about to celebrate thirty years
of friendship. As a matter offact, and we still joke about that.
You never used to run around sayyou were a giver of truth.
I'm like, look what am Idoing? Now? There you go.
You are manifesting that right back then? Okay, exactly. But I officially
got certified, so instead of justbeing, you know, just a willing
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nearly give her a truth, Igot certified nine years ago. So I've
been certified for almost ten years now. And it really makes me come alive
when I am coaching, like speakingcoaching, they go hand in hand to
me. But whether I'm doing groupcoaching, what I'm doing one on one
coaching, whatever it is, itmakes me come alive because I know the
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power of perspective. Yeah, andI know that your perspective on a thing
can change the trajectory of your life. Yes, And sometimes we just get
so stuck and we just need someoneto say, oh no, just move
this over here, just move thatover there, and let me just show
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you a mirror of how awesome youactually are. And something as simple as
that can just change someone's life,make them come alive, and it's like
they're more bold, they have moreconfidence, they're doing things that maybe they
didn't have the courage to do before, just from someone saying no, let
me tell you who you really are. Yes, you know, And so
that it warms my heart, Ittruly does. Wow. Now I know
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that you speak selves on limiting beliefs. Yes, to tell us what are
limiting beliefs, because I can sayright now, I'm not seeing that you
have now, But tell us whatare limiting beliefs? Well, we all
have them, we absolutely all havethem. But my personal definition of limiting
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beliefs that I created on my own, so if you go to Google this
will not come up, but justin my study and working with clients and
the existence of that nature, mydefinition is continual thoughts or beliefs that you've
learned or observed about yourself, others, or life that you accept you implement
as truth that prevents you from becomingyour full authentic self. Okay, So
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it's those things that maybe you learnfrom your parents, or you know,
your leaders, or a bully atschool, or some kind of concept or
idea of thought about yourself that you'vegot. I'm not good enough, I'm
not smart enough, I'm not wiseenough. I don't have the credentials that
I need. But I can't climbup the corporate ritter, doctor Matt,
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I don't have what it takes.I'm going to be stuck here. You
know, those are limiting beliefs,things that are stopping you. I can
only be, you know, awife and a mom. I can't be
a businesswoman like whatever. It isthe beliefs that are stopping you. I
like to say, wherever you feelstuck, stagnant, or stationary, there
is a limiting belief that is invadingyour thoughts. Wow. Wow, So
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why do you feel it's important toexamine your limiting beliefs because that is what
will allow you to go to thenext level. We all have big dreams,
we have aspirations. When we arelying in bed at night and the
house is quiet and no one isaround, no matter what we've done throughout
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the day or what we're doing inour life. We have things that we're
thriving for on a micro level anda macro level. And I believe that
the first step in any level oftransformation is awareness. And in order to
become a way or to become aware, you first have to ask yourself deep,
meaningful questions. And I think oneof the most powerful questions you can
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ask yourself about a belief or howyou see something is but why? But
why? Why do I believe that? Why do I think I can't start
this business? Why do I believeI can't climb the corporate ladder. Why
do I believe I won't be successful? Why do I believe I can't lose
this weight? Why do I believeI can't buy a new hull? Why
do I believe I can't relocate?Yes, And when you start asking yourself
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those questions and identifying the beliefs thatare stopping you from achieving whatever those goals
are, again, micro macro couldbe something as I don't think I can
cook. I have a friend whoshe always say I need a great cook.
I can't cook. I'm not agreat cook. When she decided that
this is going to be the yearthat she learned how to cook, because
we all know cooking gives a larnedskill. Right, Yes, she's an
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amazing cook. Wow. Now becauseshe decided, you know, why would
what's not saying I wasn't a cookcook, I never even gave myself the
chance. So she started getting cookbooksand looking at recipes online, and now
she's able to like put stuff togetheron her own and she creates these beautiful
gourmet meals from the woman six monthsago that said I need cook. So
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just something as small as that,but that can go from something like that
to something as large as don't wantto start a business, I want to
build an empire. It's the sameprocess of examining your thoughts and then what
you're assigning meaning to because our thoughtsand beliefs only have the meanings that we
assigned to them. Right. Soif I say Cleveland, Ohio is significant
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to me, well, Cleveland,Ohio may not be significant to you.
So the meaning for me is wheremy parents grew up childhood. I lived
here until I was four. Ihave aunts, uncles, and cousins.
You know, maybe a song helistened to, Oh, well, this
was a song that we're reminded meof when I was a child. But
you hear that song, You're like, never heard of it before? Right?
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You know what I'm saying. Sothe same thing with our thoughts and
beliefs, we attached meaning to it, and we have to ask ourselves why
have I attached this meaning to it? And then if it's causing me to
be stuck, stacking or stationary,how can I move away from that?
Wow? Wow, that is interesting. So tell us about your journey and
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how and why you started, youknow, to examine your own limiting beliefs.
Yes, so I have been inthe personal development space for years as
long as I can well, Ican say as long as I can remember.
I'll say in my twenties, mymid to late twenties, I started
becoming interested in personal development conferences,reading different books and things of that nature.
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And so I was already on thejourney of just like self improvement.
But when everything changed for me ina deep way is when I got pregnant
with our son. With my son, and I said I didn't want to
have any kids. I had plentyof nieces, nephews, got children,
mentees. I was like the youngand free childless aunt that would take in
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all the kids and then send themback on to their parents, you know,
just have fun with them. Butour son was I call them a
beautiful surprise. Because I got pregnantsix years into the marriage. I'm like,
oh my god, what are wegoing to do? And it's like,
we're going to raise the child,That's what we're gonna do. And
so me becoming pregnant, I hadto ask myself questions that I did not
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ask myself before because I didn't thinkI was gonna have kids. And it
just it prompted a lot of thingsin me, and it made me realize,
Okay, because just thinking, I'ma deep thinker. So it's like,
okay, well, even though you'retwo months pregnant, the child's going
to be here in a few months, you know. And even though they
don't come out talking or understanding youknow, deep concepts, at some point,
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you're gonna have to teach them aboutlife. Yeah, And so I
start asking myself, well, whatdo you want to teach him? What
do you want him to know?What what you know? Belief structure do
you want him to have? Whatare you going to teach him about God?
What are you going to teach himabout, you know, his personal
sovereignty? What are you going toteach him about his personal power and his
confidence and what he can do andnot do? Like what are you going
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to teach him? Like? Howare you going to do this? And
I started examining, when I tellyou, doctor Madlin, I examined from
the top to the bottom all ofmy beliefs, things that I was afraid
to tell people. I was questioningbecause it's just, you know, some
of those things you just learn asa child, and this is just what
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we believe, because this is whatour family believe, this is what our
answers is believe, and this iswhat we're taught to believe, or this
is the way of life, andthis is the way you do things.
I just and I said, Idon't want to just pass down stuff for
the sake of passing stuff down.When was the last time anybody has been
intentional about what we believe, notjust saying I'm going to teach them this
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because my grandmother said this is theright way, and then her great grandmother
said this is the right like whatwas true that there's you know, there
is a thing of you know oftimeless wisdom that's passed down. But there's
also some things that were true forour family members that are no longer true
for us. I mean, whenI think about my own life, it's
things that were true for me tenyears ago that are absolutely not true for
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me today. Yes, you know, I was a different woman ten years
ago, five years ago, twoyears ago. So I had to do
like a rehaul. And I remembereven thinking about growing up with my parents
and I would, you know,ask why about things? And the answer
was because I said so yeah,And I mean, and you know,
I could get it there, likeyou know, you don't question authority.
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But it's like I'm asking you whybecause I'm trying to formulate my own belief
Yes, I'm not trying to bedisrespectful. I'm trying to formulate what I
believe and how I want to showup in this world. So even now
my son is six, I allowhim to ask me why. I allow
him to probe me. I allowhim to dig deep and challenge me,
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even at six. I want himto because what I don't want you to
do is go out in the worldand accept what they have to say about
you. Absolutely, if someone saidsomething or call you something or tells you
what you can't do. You're gonnalook at them as if they're calling you
a bird, like what bird?What do you mean? I can't do
that? Really lose? Of courseI can. I can accomplish this that
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that's what you're saying is not true. But that comes from instealing that.
But I had to evaluate what Ithought and believed about myself m h.
In my own confidence levels and whatI saw possible in order to say,
okay, son, this is thisand that is that and again he's so
we're still in the beginning stages,but I am I have because of undoing
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all of those things. I havemore confidence and how he's raised right,
things that I share with him,and how I even allow him to explore
you know what I mean and theymean mine. You know, when he's
in a situation where someone may bedoing something that kind of borderline not right
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or whatever, he can make uphis own mind. Am I gonna go
with the crowd or am I gonnastand on what I've been taught, my
values, what I know you know, is right, and not worry about
if they're gonna be you know,not like me anymore. You know,
how kids now, especially nowadays kidsare into the senior school. Everybody they
want everybody to like them, andso to do that, they go along
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with whatever is going on. Butif you that where withal to think for
your self, to believe that whatyour decision is right for you exactly following
someone off for Cliff, you know, exactly exactly. Wow. And he's
actually already at that stage where he'slike, I think that's the right thing
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to do. That's not very pride. I think you're breaking the room.
M m. Sometimes he takes itoverboard, but I know he gets that
because I have already taught him andcontinuing to teach him how to speak up
for himself, how to be firmin his beliefs and what he stands for.
You know. So he's already youknow, exhibiting that good That's great,
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That is awesome. So how canthis way of thinking be applied to
women in the professional space? Yeah, So, like we mentioned earlier,
this crosses barriers of all areas inlife. And when I think about even
the work that you're doing, doctorMadeline. You know I've heard you say
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that you even work on mindset withyour clients because if a woman wants to
climb the ranks, the first thingshe has to work on is her mind
around being able to claim the ranksexactly. Yeah, Because if she works
with you, and you know,you're doing all this mental work and all
or doing all this work and strategy, but deep down she doesn't believe in
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her heart that she can have exactly, it doesn't matter. Yeah. And
so even that in the professional field, like whatever it is you're going for,
you first have to know that youare worthy, yeah, that you
are enough that you can accomplish whateverit is you set your mind to,
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yes, And if you don't,that is where the work of limiting beliefs
come in because you have to askwhy don't I feel like I can accomplish
this, Why don't I feel worthyenough? Why don't I feel like I'm
enough? And things that I haveworked with clients on that have been you
know, revealed as I mean somethinglike I don't think I can climb the
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ranks and make more money because thatwould mean that I would make more money
than my husband, And according towhat I've been taught and what I believe,
the man has to be the breakyeah. Yeah. And so not
realizing that they are subconsciously sabotaging themselvesbecause of a belief that was rooted,
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not because their mom, grandmother,aunt uncle said hey, little Susie,
you better never make more to yourhusband. But that's because that's what they
but just because that's what they alwayssaw, thought exactly exactly, And so
the pattern was the man is thegreat woman when or the woman she's you
know, she's me the homemaker.But if she's not the homemaker and she
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happens to have a job or sheshe will still be the homemaker and have
a job. You want to bea home mak her and she will have
a job, but she will justcontribute. She won't be the bread winner,
right because then if she's the breadwinner, then that would mean that
she's going to be, you know, taking the role of the leader of
the home. And we don't wantto make the man feel lesson and so
not knowing that all of that chatteris what's at play. And so then
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when the position or opportunity presents itselfto elevate yourself in the workplace, you're
like, oh, no, Ican't do it. I'm not exactly if
in line with what I what Isay is on my talk when I talk
about, you know, how menwill apply for a position when they have
only sixty percent of the requirements,But a woman will look at that same
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exact posting and she feels she hasto have chance to be able to check
every box one hundred percent before shewill apply. What's difference if they have
sixty you have sixty. What's thedifference? But she will not apply if
she doesn't feel she has one hundredpercent of the requirements. And it's it
just me yes. And that's themindset because the men feel like they can
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step into that position and what theydon't, they'll learn it, you know.
But most women won't take that typeof attitude. They won't, they
will not. Yes, right,And that's an area where you would ask
yourself deep questions like why do Ido that to myself? Yes, absolutely,
and giving yourself the space to tellyourself the truth, to tell yourself
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the truth and then put the stepsin place to make the change. M
hm wow. And so I guessthat brings us into the next question.
If someone wanted to start the journeyof identifying and examining their own limiting beliefs,
where would you suggest that they startthat whole process. Yeah, so
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awareness, awareness is the first stepany level of transformation, any level of
anything. I mean, before youget before you t take off of the
plane, the pilot has to knowwhere he's going. So hope, So
I gotta stop because I thought aboutsomething. I remember when I was in
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the military and we were going Ithink we were going to uh Fort Apa.
We were going to Fort Chaffy.That's where we're going, and from
where I lived. To get there, you had to take these little small
planes, you know, And oneof them got on and the pilots the
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door to where the pilot said thatit was open, and I happened to
look over and you know, justto see, and they were sitting and
I saw him pull out a map, and I thought, oh, that
was my first thought. I can'tbelieve he's pulling out a map and we're
about to get in the air andneed he obviously don't really know where he's
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go He should have been pulling thatout prior to hell so that I wouldn't
see it. That just came,Oh my gosh, I would have been
terrified, like getting lost, Itell you what that was. That was
definitely an experience and you know,uh, military can't just say Okay,
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he don't know where he's going,I want to get off here. It's
like I'm right, oh's exactly.That's the point, Like you have to
know where you're starting, right,And I always say, in order to
do that, you have to beyou have to get quiet with yourself.
We get so busy doing because wehave responsibilities, right always, Yeah,
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yeah, we have lots of responsibilities. We wear a lot of hats,
we do a lot of things,we have a lot of tasks. But
it's like we get so busy doingthat we never be we're not being mm
hmm. But in order to reallystop the patterns and the habits and the
self sabotaging behavior, we have tofirst get quiet, and we have to
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first have awareness of, Okay,this is where I actually am. No
matter what kind of journeys on,I want on a weight loss journey.
And it's like, okay, Iwas afraid to step on the scale and
admit to myself where I was.How can you expect to go on this
journey and to get healthier if youwon't even step on the scale and say,
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oh, this is where I am, or even if it's a you
know, a health journey and notwanting to get your blood taken or your
your your numbers ran and or oryou know, test done. Like you
have to know where you are tomake improvements to where you want to be
exactly. That's definitely the first step. Wow, wow, it's it is
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you know when you think about it. Though a lot of people don't do
that. They don't sit down anroute you know where, because, like
you say, you have to ifyou're going on a journey, and no
matter what it is, you know, like you said, the weight loss,
or if you're trying to move upor you know, you first of
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all, you need to know Ialways say, you know, got to
have some clarity questions. You needto know why you want to do it
in the first place, because that'sanother thing. You need to know why
you want to do it. Butonce you if you know why, you
know whatever that read, whatever thatwhy is, then you have to figure
out, okay, then what's keepingyou from doing it? And I noticed
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there are times, especially individuals thattend to work in the and I noticed
that tend to work in a federalgovernment. They get so complacent in the
positions that they're in that a lotof times don't want to move. And
so you're why I can't get promoted. Well, maybe you just can't get
promoted in that particular office or inthat particular right. It requires you to
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do something different, exactly exactly,but it's the comfortability, you know,
comfortability. They don't want to movebecause it's what they know. You know,
I'm used to this, I'm usedto these people. I'm used to
coming in at a certain time andI can leave at a certain time.
Well, if you're trying to moveup the ladder, these things are going
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to have to change. Yeah,well, you're absolutely right. You know.
I like to say that our growthand evolution requires something of us.
Yes, and we like to justsay, oh I want this and I
want that, and I want todo this and I want to do that.
But we don't leave room what wehave to do to get it,
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because it's not going to just fallfrom the sky. And you know,
sometimes people think, and that's whyI also say, no one owes you
a promotion. They don't. Noone owes you a promotion, and so
you do have to work for it. You know, you can't there and
think, you know, just becauseyou're GS. Whatever the next next GS
level that comes up, you're automaticallysupposed to get it. That's not true,
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and a lot of times that's whatthey feel, like, Oh,
well, my position goes you know, it's seven nine eleven. So in
the year I'm supposed to get I'ma seven down a year I'm supposed to
get my nine not necessarily what you'redoing to earn it? What are you
doing to get there? How areyou blocking yourself or either how are you
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making yourself visible so that they knowdo you know the nine level? So
it's like you say, and sometimesit's because of fear. You know.
Once they get to that eleven,then they stop like, oh, I
can't go any further because my positiondoesn't go any further. Well, then
that means you have to look forsomething else, don't you think? Right?
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If you want to grow now youwant to stay the same. If
you want to you want to grow, then you gotta do something different here
kick in or that the limiting beliefs, that's when that kicks in, because
at that point it's like, ohno, now I know, you know,
they really have to start reaching forsomething. And that's where yes,
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they have to start reaching now forwhat they want. It's not automatic.
It's not going to be given toyou. You have to start reaching or
you have to start doing some work, and you have to start doing some
work on yourselves. Absolutely, yeah, that's the thing, because then the
next thing is a lot of timesyou don't realize that the growth that we
want, the promotion that we want, we have to become the person that
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can sustain that. And many timesthe reason why those things are coming to
fruition because we have to become aperson that can even handle something like that.
Really absolutely, so that's the thingof it requiring something of you.
Of yes, doing your due diligenceand applying in those things of that nature.
But like you said, that workon yourself, because if you want
to be a person in an elevatedposition, you have to behave in an
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elevate way, and your beliefs andhow you show up and how you see
yourself and how you see others,like it requires an elevation of all of
you, and we like to especiallyin the professional space, is a big
part your mindset. Like you said, your beliefs, don't sta all that
place a big part in it.It really really does place a big part.
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So if there was one thing orone piece of advice you could tell
women, what would that be.It would be to remember who you are.
Remember who you are. Like Isaid, women are powerful, and
we are capable, and we arestrong and we are multi faceted. That
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we have been tricked into believing thatwe are not enough. Oh my goodness,
yes, like I said, we'rethe greatest resource on this planet.
Yeah, but we have been trickedinto believing who we are. We do
all the things. Look at thejust any woman one moment that does one
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thing, Yeah, just one thing. Yeah. And it's like we are
so powerful and I mean the waywe carry ourselves, in the way that
we can do things that we havebeen tricked out of it, I think,
and we've been tricked into believing thatwe're not back. Yeah. And
so in order to elevate and reachthose goals, we have to first remember
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who am I Who am amazing,I am powerful. I can do this.
Even if I don't have everything thatI need, I would be connected
with someone that will help me getwhat I need. You know what I
mean, Like it's always an answerthat that will find me. And knowing
him believing that. But you haveto first sit and say, no,
I can do this. I amborn for this. Whatever I even desiring
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is desiring me. Like, waita minute, it's like you have to
have a recomend of sorts. Yes, like a pull on your own collar.
Absolutely right about that. Wow,I tell you, so tell us
h E, what is next?What's next? What do you have coming
(39:15):
up on the horizon that you mightwant us to know about? Anything you
want to share with us? Yeah. So I actually have a free resource
for your audience. It is aseven step process to identifying and releasing limiting
beliefs. I actually came up withthis framework that I do by one on
one client. But there's a freeresource that I have available for your audience.
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If they go to the fight Ithink you have. I see it
strolling on the screen. Yeah,they episode that they can get the information
to get it. Yeah, thelink. Yes, that is an amazing
it's more than a first step.Like I said, it's seven steps,
but it is an amazing resource toreally journal, ask yourself those meaningful questions,
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really dig deep so you can seewhat are the things that are stopping
you from from where you want togo? And where you want to be.
Wow. So if our audience wantedto reach out to you to get
more information to maybe work with youin some way, how can they find
you? Yes, they can findme my website if I am chi dot
(40:21):
com and on there if you wouldlike me to speak to your audience,
or I do group coaching, Ido one on one coaching as well.
I have all the information there.I might also be reached via email Hello
at imachi dot com, on Facebookat mckeechern, and I am on Instagram
at Chi Denise. And I'm alsoon LinkedIn, so I'm everywhere you type
(40:43):
in my name, it's just you. That's where I followed you on LinkedIn,
so I definitely know you're on LinkedIn. Yes, I am all over
the place, so you type in. My name is unique. So you
type my name in and you willfind me all the places. Yes,
and make sure you put it asa C H I E and not H
(41:05):
H I E. Yes, thathappens. I kept saying, well,
why isn't it coming up? Iknow she's there, and then I looked
at it. I said, that'sbecause you're putting the R and then I
kept get this guy coming up butit's not a guy. And then you
know what, all of the way, she's a c H I E.
I love it. I love it. Thank you so much for joining us
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