March 7, 2024 • 50 mins
Join Dr. Lewis in a conversation with Renee Lindo, Owner of Let's Get Dressed Now. Renée is a Personal Stylist based in Toronto, Canada serving clients globally. With her keen sense of style and corporate sales background, she guides professional women on their style journey, so that they can show up as the best version of themselves. Email: renee@letsgetdressednow.com Website: www.letsgetdressednow.com
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to us on the Women for Women. I am doctor Madlin Ann Lewis your
host, and my mission is tohelp women accelerate the path to success.
Well, today's topic and I amso excited because she's joining us in the
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month of March, which is withWomen's History Month, So we're gonna be
talking today about let's get dressed.And my guess is coming to us from
Canada to kind of give us sometips on how to look good all the
time. So the topic today,as I said, is let's get dressed,
and my guest is Renee Lindo.Let me just give you a little
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background on her. Renee Lindo isa personal stylist based in Toronto, Canada,
serving clients globally so you can stillreach out to her no matter where
you are. She has been asense of style and corporate sales background,
and she is perfectly positioned to guideprofessional women on their style journey so that
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they can show up as the bestversion of themselves. Renee helps her clients
to save time and increase confidence bycreating polished and functional wardrobes so that they
can attract career building opportunities. Herphilosophy is when women look good, they
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feel great, and this gives themthe confidence to put their hands up for
more. Renee is passionate about helpingwomen show up as their most authentic selves
and believes when your outward appearance isaligned with who you are on the inside,
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that is when you are your mostpowerful. I'd like to bring to
the show today, miss Renee Lindo. Thank you, thank you. Up
to Lewis, It's great to behere, great to be here. I'm
glad to finally get you here.I mean, you're just so busy all
over the place. You talk aboutlooking you got these nice outfits on looking
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cool and everything. So you tellus how you do it. But before
we get started. I always givethe standard bio on my guests, but
then I like to ask the guests, just tell us what you want us
to know about Renee Lindo. Sureyou know I am. I'm passionation about
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helping women to really top into thepower of their style. I think it's
a it's a hopeful tool that Idon't think we really understand and leverage as
much as we could. Uh,And it really when we get it right
and really understand how to use ourstyle, it really expands what we're available
for. And that that really I'mjazzed by that. It is so exciting
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for me to see women kind ofmove from where they are to where they
want to go using their style andthe confidence it gives them to really show
up for more. Wow. Now, what is our uh your style story?
How can we use it? Oreverybody's style store? I guess because
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you work with a lot of women, mostly women? Right, No,
not me, it's mostly women,but I do work with men. Yes,
what is our style story and howcan we use it to advance our
careers or our business? Yes?So you know when I when I think
of style story, it you know, we all have a story, and
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how we show up is our stylestory. How we use our clothing and
our style to really communicate and haveit do the heavy lifting for us is
our style story. And I haveactually because I find that when we're able
to give a confident, consistent story, right, we're communicating to our audience
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who we are and what we're about. Actually created a framework that I take
clients to that I call your stylestory. And you, just like any
story or movie that you're you're watching, there are a few key elements that
really help us to be memorable,helps the story to have a confident story,
to be consistent, and it reallyjust aligns with a story. Right.
You start off with being clear beforeyou write a story or before a
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movie is made. There's clarity,right, what is this story going to
be about? Similarly, with yourstyle, you want to think about,
well, who am I? Howdo I want to move through the world?
You know what? What resonates withme? So we start with clarity
and then another another aspect of astory is a story happens somewhere, right,
there's a scene. And for ourstyle story, I say that's your
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closet. This is where everything kindof comes to life, right, whether
whether you're if you're going to whateveryou're going to create that date, it
starts in your closet. So wereally talk about creating a closet that works
for you, a closet that's filledpieces that work for you now that it's
not a museum of a life youused to live or a size you used
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to be, but really what whatwhat suits you now and the lifestyle that
you're living, whether it's will workand and and or professional or personal.
And then every story there is amain character and of course style that main
character is you, right, sowe really get we get clear on how
how do you address our body?You know, as we age, I'm
mature, our body is change andwhat if it doesn't fit or it fits
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differently? So we really get clearon your body shape and how to dress
this body shape? What, whatflatters? What? What? How we
bring attention to areas that we likeand maybe not and not so attention to
aras that we don't like. Andthen we go on to the wardrobe.
You think of a movie, right, so you can tell so much about
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the characters in a movie by theirwardrobe. Excuse me, similarly with you.
So we spend time really in yourin your plaster with your wardrobe,
creating outfits that are easy for you, that easily you can easily put together,
whether it's professional, whether it's personal, to really tell your story,
to communicate whatever it is that youwant. And it's really about building a
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wardrobe that's functional, right, thatyou can mix and and create great pieces
and great outfits so you feel good. And then the last of your story
is the supporting cast. Every storymovie there's a supporting cast. If it
was us about you, that maybea little bit boring, so, but
the supporting cast for your style.You know, we talk about color,
the colors that look great on you. We talk about your accessories and how
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to use your accessories to allow yourpersonality to come through to you know,
to tell, to allow people toknow you a little bit more. And
so when we put all of thoseelements together, it really helps us to
feel confident, helps us still havethat, you know, just to be
able to communicate who we are andhow we want to show up. And
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so using that whether progressing yourself andyour career, whether you're the face of
your business, that's a huge tool. Wow, to be able to get
it right now. I gotta askthis question because friend of mine, we're
always going back and forth over thisone here. How much should we pay
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attention to the trends when we're dressing? I mean, I mean, because
you know, things change, andif you look at the trends, some
of that stuff was way back whenand it's just repurposing coming back today.
And so you know, I'm oneof these people that I don't go out
every time something changes. I don'tgo out and you know, get that
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particular follow that trend. But howimportant is it or is it important to
follow trends? This is such agreat question, and I'm so glad you
asked, because first of all,there's a there's a few differences between trendy
and trends, right, So trendsjust kind of tell the this is what
the designers kind of tell us,this is what they're they want us to
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wear or we're seeing. We seea lot of it. It's we're easy
easy to get these pieces in storebecause they are what's the latest thing.
When you're a trendy, it justit means that you're constantly buying these trend
pieces, right, which is notsustainable, and you don't build a great
functional wardrobe just chasing the trends.Constantly chase your trends. First of all,
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that's very expensive, and then you'renot allowing your you to really show
up and say who you are.What is important when I when I work
with plans and we're talking about yourwardrobe, a great functional wardrobe really is
about eighty percent i'd say basics,right, your wardrobe basics the pieces that
and basics don't mean boring, butbasics with big pieces that you reach for
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all the time, these pieces thatyou know you make your great outfits with,
that you love to wear, thatlook great on your body. And
about twenty percent are trend pieces,pieces that you say, hmm, you
know that's interesting, I'm going totry that, but you're not. Your
entire wardrobe is not filled with trendsbecause you're constantly doing this and you don't
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want that. So you want tocreate a wardrobe that's i'd say bounce.
If you think of a meal,right with your With a meal, you
have your proteins, you have yourcarbs. The dessert is just a little,
a little sprinkling, right, Sosimilar thing to think about. So,
but I need to say this aswell, especially for folks who are
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in the job market. If you'regoing getting back into the job market.
Now, if you're a maybe aI like to say, an experience rich
employee, I'm retired too. Okay, you have to work out working or
anything like that. You don't haveto, right, but especially if you're
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in the job market and you're lookingfor a job or we're hearing so much
of that is happening, you wantto look current. That's the thing.
You're not necessarily trendy, but theimportant piece is that you're looking current because
again, you're communicating something you're alwayscommunicating by just how you show up.
Wow. Now, okay, giveme an example of what you mean by
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current. What would what would yousay would be an example today? Okay?
Absolutely? So you know before sobefore pandemic, we usually or not
usually, but let's just say,a more formal suit, maybe more fitted,
more kind of more structured, wasmore or less what people were to
work. That's what was deemed professional. Okay. Now you know that styles
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have changed, office cultures have changed. We're dressing much more more relaxed,
but we're still we still want tolook professional and appropriate for work. So
looking current could mean and I knowin certain clients I've worked with, they
may think that, okay, professionalonly means I have to wear a suit,
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so they get so they're wearing theirfull fitted suit formal to work.
That can lookated because that's not whatwe're doing. Now, you can still
look professional. The blazer is goingto be a little bit more relaxed,
it's not going to be as fittedand tied, even though overall silow way
is going to be a little bitlooser. So just things like that to
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not hold on to Okay, thisis what professional was, and then you
continue that for years and years.Things change, styles change, and you
want to look current because what Isay is on LinkedIn all the time.
If you show up dated or ifyou show up looking like you're a little
behind the times, people assume thatyour skills are also dated, right,
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because they can't because people are judgingus always right. We're always being judged.
Split second, people are judging,So you want to ensure that you
look current because then you're communicating thatI have my finger on the pulse,
I know what's happening in my industry. I I'm not stucking my ways.
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That's another thing that they want folksstuck in their ways. Employers are looking
for people who are adaptable, peoplewho are open to change, growth mindsets.
So all of those things are importantand you can communicate that with your
staff. Wow. Now when yousay, uh, stuck in your ways,
because I guess I tend to bethat way, are you meaning that?
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Are you meaning that I don't wantto change? Say, for example,
if I like pin Strive suits,then I'm just not gonna wear anything
but pins Strive suits. No,I'm talking about stuck in your ways when
it comes to work. So ifyou know, right, so they want
they employers really want you to notnot to be not be the person who
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says, this is how we've alwaysdone it, so this is how it's
going to be. Right. Theywant you to be open minded, growth
mindset. Right, So those thingsare are important. Okay, So just
so what I'm saying the point I'mmaking if you're you're showing up in this
very very formal suit I used towear, it doesn't show that you're open
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to change. It shows that thisis what was professional. And I'm sicking
to it and I'm always going towear that. You understand what I'm saying.
So that's that's really what we're communicating. We communicate all the time with
holy show up. Wow. Nowone of the things I did years and
years ago, and I don't know, maybe I should revisit that because you
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mentioned about colors, I went andhad a color assessment. Of course I
got on the color today that wasnot in that palette. But because I'm
supposed to be a winter and youknow, winter is like the blues and
the pretty pinks and different colors likethat. And how important is that you
know your colors? Because I actuallydo love blues. I love pinks and
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gray, and believe it or not, one of the things the lady did,
I remember, she showed me likeshe put on a color like she
would she put on I think itwas like, I don't know, like
a beige color. She put itnext to me, and then she took
that away and she put like awhite And you would be surprised is how
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much you light up just from thecolors, you know? I was.
Does that change as you age?You know your colors? Uh? Should
in other words, should I goget another reassessment of if I'm still a
winter person or not, or thatreally doesn't change. I don't. I
don't think you're that really changes youare. Looking at you, I would
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say that you are a winter Imean you can't always look and tell,
right, it's really important to dothe dripping. But those similar those colors
look great on you, right,those those deep the deep greens, like
kind of vibrant colors. Right.Purples, yea, the purples, the
reds, they the very vibrant colors. But yeah, as you age,
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not really and maybe maybe you maywant to maybe tone it down, but
usually your your colors are more orless the same. Wow. Wow.
And as I said, I Isee you all the time when you're posting
things and different outfits that you haveon, and sometimes you look so well
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put together. But it's not likeyou're dressed like you're going to an opera
something, but you're still you stilllook like you're well put together. And
I've seen you where you just siton a pair of jeans and a top
and a jacket and I'm looking,I'm like, that really looks pulled together,
you know. And I'm just yesterdaywhere you mentioned that you didn't used
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to like jeans, but now yes, jeans, and I'm the same way.
I didn't used to be a jeansperson, and I'm really still not.
That's not my first to outfit orgens. But when I read what
you were saying, it made sense, you know, because jeans have changed,
you know, so much since,like I said, things changed and
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they repurpose and all of that exactlyexactly. But that's so true, you
know. And that's another point,right, As we age and mature and
as we grow, we change aswomen, men, professionals, whomever,
humans. We change, and it'simportant that our style also changes with change
with us because you don't want tobe you don't want to be stuck,
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right, and you feel like you'restuck in our root. So you want
to change and evolve, just asas your style does. And you know,
you may have thought you were fabulousten years ago, but you can
still be fabulous now. It's justmaybe it just may look different. Right.
So that's also my point is thatwe don't have to feel like,
oh that the ship has passed.We're on that state, we're on that
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ship and it can still be likeGrainny, just because you are a grand
boy, I thought the words absolutely, no way right, And I don't
believe in that you know a certainage, so I can't wear a certain
thing and stylis for certain absolutely not. Style is available at all ages,
all sizes. It is really abouthow you interpret the styles. Is how
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you think? How you are comfortable? How? What? What are you
comfortable? Yes? Yes? Howare you comfortable wearing? What's going to
be? Because when you're sorry,when you're comfortable, you'll be able to
be confident. Right, you're notfixing it fidgeting, You're not wondering how
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does this look? Do I look? Does my boat look too big?
Does this? You know you're comfortable, and so that allows you to show
up. That allows you to reallyfocus on your gifts and talents and how
you're going to serve and help others. But it's about being comfortable. And
you had mentioned the point about howI look pulled together. I appreciate that,
so I thank you. And anotherpiece that I think is important it's
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intentionality. Right, Be intentional aboutthe message that you're going to send when
you get dressed. Right, SometimesI say, let's not think about what
am I going to wear today?But instantly, what do I want to
say? Today. Right, whatis it? What is the message that
I'm sending about me? What doI want folks to know about me?
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Right? So think about that andthen get dressed with some intention. You
have some intention, not just don'tjust think of your clothes, I'm just
going to throw something on. Ithink of be more intentional, and then
you'll find that when you create anoutput, when you create a wardrobe that
really supports how you live and supportsthe message that you want to send to
the world, it makes it somuch easier for you to put an outfit
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together. Right, You're not rummagingthrough and trying to find something because you
have all these things that no longerserve your lifestyle. As an example,
I came from corporate. My backgroundis corporate. So when I move up
to a move transition to being anentrepreneur, I still held on to all
of my corporate suits. I hadall these fabulous suits in my closet.
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Right, had all these suits becauseoh, I spent money on the suits,
and I may want to wear thesuits after maybe the suits and then
so every time I was getting dressedin the morning, when I walk into
my closet, it's a huge thing. Of suits, and then I had
a small section of what I wouldbe wearing that day. So really,
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your my closet wasn't serving me.My closet, not the life I was
living. So I was in courageclients to think about how are you living?
You think about your lifestyle, sothese suits. And then the other
thing I thought about is, butyou know, I may need to wear
suits again, and if I gointo corporate clients as a as a stylist,
I may want to wear my suits. But the important thing is,
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yes, I may want to weara suit, but those that style of
suit is three years, four yearsold, right, I'm not going to
want to wear that suit. I'mgoing to want to hear something new,
something fresh, right. So Ireally went through this process and really just
got rid of those suits because Iwasn't wearing head to toe suits and I
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didn't miss and I didn't miss them. That was the other thing, The
same thing. After a few yearsafter I retired, I did the exact
same thing, because, like yousaid, every time I went into the
closet, I had a cloent thatwas just filled with all these suits.
And so one time, one dayI just called this lady up. She
does the program Dress for Success.I called, I said, look,
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I have these suits, and shewas blown away because she didn't know she
was gonna be get suits. Itell you, I cleaned that closet out
and like, I gave away thosesuits because they were just sitting there and
taste the money picking up space exactly. Think about the fact that you haven't
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touched something in years, then youprobably that you're going to write and then
sometimes we said, oh, butI spent so much money on them.
But it's okay for you to giftitems that you spent money. And you
don't have to only give away itemsthat have no value. Right you can
gift others and I mean they'll givethem new love brings you new life and
opportunities to these to these women.So yes, that's my soap box.
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Now I have a question that Ihave to ask you, because this is
another question that I have done battlewith with someone that I know. We've
gone back and forth on this.Stockings. What do you think about women
wearing stockings now? Because you know, most of the time you see ladies,
don't you know, they're not reallyinto wearing stockings anymore? Tell me
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what your thoughts on on that.Okay, stockings, and this may not
be popular opinion, but I havenot worn stockings in years, unless it's
unless it's winter, like winter title. But I think you're asking me more
like stockings, like if you're goingto the office, that's what you're you're
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going to the office, or ifyou're you know, dressed in a nice
dress. You know, like ifyou're going on to a nice dinner,
a nice function, uh play orsomething where you're dressed in a nice then
yes, I could wear a stocking, but like every day going to work,
stock hold panty holes. Mm hmmmmmm mmmm. I think that's a
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personal preference. I don't. Ithink some people like to wear their stockings.
So but it's just it's a lotof work, you know, unless
it's unless it's like tights, likeyou know, I do, like,
you know, if you were likeblack, shared tights with with maybe boots,
boots and a dress or a sharkskirt or a miniskirt. I like
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that. But when I'm thinking ofit, stockings just like in your every
day work. Yeah, no,it's been a while. Yeah, I
don't think I haven't. Any ofmy clients have done stockings just maybe just
maybe tights in fall and winter?Okay, yeah, definitely. Now I
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gotta tell you, I like whenI get you know, put on a
nice dress or whatever. I dolike to have on stock and high definitely
in the winter time. I Amnot going to go with the time,
right, I mean, if you'regetting dress, nice dress, black,
you know, dress heels and it'sa fancy function, then yes, I
think for sure, you know,like a thin what do you call it?
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I don't remember the words? Notokay, but share share black tights?
Yes, absolutely right. So whatdo you mean when you talk about
style is a tool? Ah?Yes, so you know, I see
it as a tool to be ableto take us from where we are to
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where we want to go, whetherwe if it's you know, if you
set your career goals, career aspissionsor style is a piece of that entire
puzzle. Yes, your resume isimportant. Yes, it's important to the
networking. It's important to have thecover letter to get further accreditations. But
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I think people also people miss overlooktheir style being a part of their career
success toolkit. Right because I talkabout about your personal brand, your style
is a packaging of your personal brand. Right, it's the first thing that
people see. So it's a toolto help you. It's a tool for
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sure, for communication, right,it is you can say who you are
without speaking. People make assessments ofus in no time, in a few
seconds, right, they start tomake judgments and assessments. So your style
is a tool that for communication,and it's also a tool to help you
to position yourself for different opportunities.Now, you mentioned a personal brand and
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as a relationship, what do youthink the relationship between those two are our
personal brand and our style? BecauseI think one of the things that I
think women don't realize is that,especially when they're in the workplace in career,
they do have a personal brand andwhether they know it or not,
they there is a personal brand there. So what do you think that relationship
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is between the two, the personalbrand and the style. So personally,
a lot of people don't even thinkthey have a personal brand. They say,
oh, I'm just stun employee,I don't have I'm telling anything.
I don't have a personal brand.I mean, and sometimes people get reputation
and personal brand confused. When youhave when you think of your personal brand,
it's really about intention, right,and having intentionality behind your brand,
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so intentionally in terms of really intentionally, how you influence somebody to think something,
think a certain thing about you.Right, that's your personal brand,
So it encompasses it's a feeling,the feeling that people get when they work
with you, when they interact withyou. It is you know, your
skills and what you're known for.All of this is a part of your
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personal brand. And I have andas I mentioned previously, your style really
is the packaging of your brand becauseit's the first thing that people see.
So people say, I get pushback. Sometimes people say, well, that's
you know, that's that is verysuperficial. It shouldn't matter about what I'm
wearing because I'm a great employee.I am. I'm a great I can
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close deals or whatever it is thatyou're good at. Get that, I'll
get that pushback. And so myanswer is, and you know that may
be so true, but before Iknow what a fantastic fill in the blank
you are, I see you.Right, So that's the first thing.
And sometimes we're not even we don'teven know what opportunities we have missed because
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I didn't even think to offer it, just because they just didn't there was
a disconnect. And so in termsof your style and your brand, it's
really important that your style aligns withyour personal brand and it aligns with the
message that you want to send aboutyou. We spend all the time creating,
you know, your assets, Youspend all the time getting your resume
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up. You spend all this timegetting further accreditation, networking, getting sponsors
and mentors with throughout your career.Also, you need to you want to
include that piece that that that statues, because what happens is when you you
put your assets out there and peopleread about you or they see are they
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they're seeing all or hearing all that? And then when you show up,
if there is a disconnect right betweenwhat what you're putting out there and what
they expect, there's people are like, hmm, there's like a trust issue.
People like, am I if Iinvest in this person, whether it's
invest to do business, invest tohire, invest in promotion, what am
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I getting? Am I getting allof the things that they talk about or
their assets or what people tell me? Or am I getting what I see
in front of me? Right?And the confused mind don't buy confused minds,
They just step on. No,they don't, right, they don't
want so you want to be clear, which is why I say that your
your image and what you're saying,you really need to have a consistent,
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confident story, right that that linethat threat that runs through all of your
touch points, whether it's your it'show you look, it's your your what
you're doing on socials, it isyour resumes, your all of that.
It needs to be cohesive. Itneeds to really it needs to be aligned.
Wow, it's it's amazing that.Like you said, now, one
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of the things you always hear toois especially in the career in the workplace
is dressed for the position that you'dlike to attain. You know, sort
of like if you if you feellike you want to get into management or
executive position, then you should lookkind of look the part before you even
have the position. What do youthink about that? Do you agree with
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that? I agree with that.I agree with that. What's challenging now
is that because our dress codes arerelaxed and because you know, people aren't
really dressing as they used to.Sometimes there is it's great, right because
sometimes you'll have the levels up SDPsor the leadership team and they're very casual,
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especially depending on your industry. Sowhat I tell what I tell plans
is yes, use the next stepas a as a guide, right,
look at it and see take someclues from what the next level is wearing.
However, you if it's a verycasual organization, like when I work
with people who are in sports andentertainment, right, that that tends much
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more laid back. You can't takenecessarily or they'll tell me, Yeah,
but I don't like how my bossdresses. I don't think she dresses whatever
it is, you know, however, I don't like that. So it
is a great opportunity for you asa person as you're looking forward, for
you to for you to create yourstory, for you to take, for
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you to own the narrative, foryou to say, you know what,
I'm positioning myself with this level.This is this is a message I want
to send about me. So I'mgoing to dress this way. I am
going to present myself in a waythat when people see me when we're in
the office, when whatever it isthey're going to I'm going to own the
story that they're going to tell aboutme. Right, So, yes,
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take your clues from higher up.But I can be difficult depending on your
industry. However, use it asa time to really define your brand,
your personal brand. I know somepeople just have they have this is my
this is my standard. I'm notgoing even though the office is casual,
I'm not going to wear a jeansto work. That's not a part of
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who I am. So we empoweredto know that you can, you know
you you can still be authentic andshow up authentically. It's really a balance,
a balance of what is the employeeemployer expectations of employees, balancing how
you feel most comfortable so that andthen also what your audience expects so that
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it's it's a great balance. Absolutely. I remember when I was still working
and I was actually working in anarea where I actually did surveillance for the
organization I was working for, andmost of the people on the team said
they wore jeans, T shirts andstuff like that. But because I wasn't
that into jeans, I always worecasual slacks and the time, you know,
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so I didn't do the gene.I didn't go that much down but
obviously you know enough. But thething that happened was it was amazing because
what happened is that they started becauseI wasn't in the jeans of time whenever
they had to go into a restaurantor something to follow someone into a restaurant,
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that they started sending me because Ilook like I fit in a little
more than the ones that may havehad on the genes. And so eventually
they start they change the rule totell them the genes they every day and
that is it too write when youhold your standard, Yeah, come up
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to meet you, right, Andso it's really important, you know,
especially now since we have there's somuch blurring off what business casual is and
it already depends on your organization andindustry, the culture of the industry.
You know, clients, my clientswho are more formal industry, banking,
law, finance, they're gonna weartheir business casual is going to be very
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different from clients who are more marketingor social media marketing or digital marketing.
Right, they'll tend to be.And even that it's a generalization, which
not necessarily is true, because Ihave female lawyer clients and they all dressed
differently depending on the type of lawthat they have, they they they practice.
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Yeah, they all dressed differently.And also it has to do with
how they're comfortable, So we reallyhave to look at But what's important.
The point I want to make isthat the culture of your industry and your
company culture is important and those willdictate kind of what is appropriate dress for
your situation. And another thing toremember too, is it again if you're
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going for a higher level position.Because I also remember when we did have
the dressed down Fridays when you canyou know, like where the genes and
all it is, and that particulartime, one time I did wear a
pair of jeans and wouldn't you know, I got called in because I was
also a EEO representative. I gotcalled in to upper manage and to give
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them a briefing on the EEO stats. How do you go into So that's
too. That then another reason whyI never wore the jeans to work.
I always made sure if I diddress down casual, I also had a
nice jacket or whatever I could throwon to pull it together. Because that's
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that's something that also happened to me. And you don't want things like that
to happen to you, especially you'relike said, your your your brand,
your personal bring your image, becauseif I had walked in there with those
jeans on, It's like, look, you know they would have they would
have noticed that I had on thosegenes for sure. And you know that's
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a good point because when I workwith I worked with a client who was
in tech, big big tech company, and so you know, we know
we've also that tech is casual.Gan you know, jeans and T shirt.
She said, I'm tech, butI don't want to show up that
way, right, that is notwho I am. I So we spent
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time unreally created a wardrobe, notthat was full of suits, but a
wardrobe that you know, could stillit was still casual, but it wasn't
still polished, not jeans, butitems that she felt put together. She
felt, she felt confident in right, and definitely much more than jeans and
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T shirt. And I saw anarticle recently in the Wall Street Journal that
spoke to this. It was aman in tech. I think it was
maybe a Google employee, I don'tremember, in tech, and he noticed
that he usually wore like a graphictea and jeans. And he noticed in
a meeting somebody another man came innot in her jeans and T shirt,
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but more put together and he noticedhow that man commanded the room, how
people were respond to him, andhe changed what he was wearing because he
saw the difference it made on people. How people So it's it's important people
say, well, you know,you talk about authentic self, and my
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authentic self is just sweat hoo doI don't I don't know if I agree
with that. You can be comfortableand polished at the same time. They're
not mutually exclusive, and comfort isnot only a hoodie and sweats. It
can be, but there's retailers havedone a great job now of really providing
pieces that are comfortable that if youstretch, you can move in that still
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looks great for if you have anoffice environment where they really want it more
than you know you want to showa little bit a little more elevated.
Wow. So one of the thingsI'm hearing, because you spoke about this
before, that your style is apart of sort of a success too for
you. You got to make surethat you know your your style can help
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you actually not only change things sometimes, but move up because people will notice
you because you already you know,made your own style. So to spread
yes, and our style and colors, you know it can change our mood.
Data tells us as well that ifwe're feeling when we're feeling sad and
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down, we reach for clothes that'sbig and bulky and gray and really dark
colors that really keeps you down.And so the reverse is also to that
when you're and then when we're feelinghappy and excited, and we were bright
vibrant colors. This whole thing soonafter the pandemic that was called dopamine dressing,
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where you wear bright, lively colorsand you just feel bright and lively
and vibrant. So when you're feelingdown right, think about maybe just changing,
okay, reaching for pieces in yourcloset that have more colors, that
colors that make you feel great,that you feel happy, that you feel
uplifted, and as opposed to wearingmore dark and subdued tones. Wow.
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So as you talk about the pandemicand and you know how people dress before
then and how they're doing now,what would be your advice or guidance for
our viewers to show up well forthemselves now at this point? Yes,
I think the first thing is toreally get clear on who you are,
get clear on how you want tomove through the world. What do you
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what message do you want to setto send about you? How do you
want your audience to receive you?I think that's really important, Right do
you want are you are you goingto be giving a big presentation? Are
you showing up on zoom? Andyou have to lead? So what are
you going to wear that gives yousome more confidence that you're going to feel
great in? Do you? Doyou have a new are you going to
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be leading a new team where youwant to feel approachable? Right? Where
you don't want to be in aIf that's the case, you don't want
to wear a very formal black suitbecause that gives a separation, right in
terms of I'm here, you're there, right, So you want to maybe
wear brownze and some kind of warmcolors that so that people so that people
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feel approachable, that you're approachable,you know, if you're in banking or
insurance, right than our private bankinginsurance sort of that, and you're working
with clients and you really want tobuild some trust, right, think about
you know, maybe some colors,some green, some blues. There's this
whole thing on color psychology and notundergotting that, but you really want to
be intentional about the message that you'resending about you, about who you are.
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So I think that's the first thingis to really get clear, you
know, be comfortable, create awardrobe that speaks to your life and how
you live, and create piece,create invest in pieces that you could that
can you can easily mix and matchand create different outfits with. And you
know, style should be fun andsomething that you can lean on to give
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you strength, to give you couragefor it to be fun. So,
you know those are my main things. Wow, So tell us what next?
What do you have coming up?Anything on the horizon that you want
us to know about? What doI have coming up? Well, it's
it's spring, so you know it'sa great time for folks to really think
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about how are they showing up,you know, peeling back the layers of
fall and winter and thinking about,you know, how do I want to
show up? No, I thinkit's a great time to relate, kind
of reassess the message that we're sending, reassessed the closing our closet. Are
you holding onto pieces that don't fit? Are you holding on too and saying
(43:43):
I'm going to lose these ten poundsthat you've been trying that you've been saying
for the past five years is you'remaybe nine years old, right, So
those are things to really to thinkabout. And so in terms of me,
right, you know, maybe youwant to just have a call and
talk about you know, see whatdoes it look like if I'm investing in
me and really updating my style.So I think that's something that I'm excited
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about. Springs a busy time forpeople in general to say, hey,
I'm ready to show up better formyself. Absolutely absolutely, So tell us
how can the viewers and listeners reachout to you if they want to find
out more about you know, theirstyle and what they can do how they
can show up better? Well?Absolutely well, I have a a dressing
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your body shape that which I thinkis a foundation of really looking having your
clothes fit well and if you can'tin your clothes and it's at bigly front
slash dressing, best you can getthere or I'm on LinkedIn Rene Lindo and
my website is Let's get Dressed Now. But yes, I'd love to talk
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about this topic. I'm passionate aboutit. So if you have any questions,
reach out to me for sure,and my free guide is awesome.
It goes through other different body shapsand explains kind of what to wear and
hope to wear it, wear italrighty, well, thank you so much.
You appreciate you coming on and givingus those tidbits on dressing and style
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and our image and all of that. Really appreciate you. I know your
schedule is busy, so I doappreciate you taking time out to come and
talk to us. Thank you somuch for having me, Doctor Lister.
Conversation was great, so thank youfor the invitation. Absolutely so. Now
I'm just going to give everybody alittle bit of what's coming up next.
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Well, today's topic and I amso excited because she's joining us in the
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month of March, which is withWomen's History Month, So we're gonna be
talking today about let's get dressed.And my guess is coming to us from
Canada to kind of give us sometips on how to look good all the
time. So the topic today,as I said, is let's get dressed,
and my guest is Renee Lindo.Let me just give you a little
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background on her. Renee Lindo isa personal stylist based in Toronto, Canada,
serving clients globally so you can stillreach out to her no matter where
you are. She has been asense of style and corporate sales background,
and she is perfectly positioned to guideprofessional women on their style journey so that
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they can show up as the bestversion of themselves. Renee helps her clients
to save time and increase confidence bycreating polished and functional wardrobes so that they
can attract career building opportunities. Herphilosophy is when women look good, they
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feel great, and this gives themthe confidence to put their hands up for
more. Renee is passionate about helpingwomen show up as their most authentic selves
and believes when your outward appearance isaligned with who you are on the inside,
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that is when you are your mostpowerful. I'd like to bring to
the show today, miss Renee Lindo. Thank you, thank you. Up
to Lewis, It's great to behere, great to be here. I'm
glad to finally get you here.I mean, you're just so busy all
over the place. You talk aboutlooking you got these nice outfits on looking
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cool and everything. So you tellus how you do it. But before
we get started. I always givethe standard bio on my guests, but
then I like to ask the guests, just tell us what you want us
to know about Renee Lindo. Sureyou know I am. I'm passionation about
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helping women to really top into thepower of their style. I think it's
a it's a hopeful tool that Idon't think we really understand and leverage as
much as we could. Uh,And it really when we get it right
and really understand how to use ourstyle, it really expands what we're available
for. And that that really I'mjazzed by that. It is so exciting
(05:18):
for me to see women kind ofmove from where they are to where they
want to go using their style andthe confidence it gives them to really show
up for more. Wow. Now, what is our uh your style story?
How can we use it? Oreverybody's style store? I guess because
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you work with a lot of women, mostly women? Right, No,
not me, it's mostly women,but I do work with men. Yes,
what is our style story and howcan we use it to advance our
careers or our business? Yes?So you know when I when I think
of style story, it you know, we all have a story, and
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how we show up is our stylestory. How we use our clothing and
our style to really communicate and haveit do the heavy lifting for us is
our style story. And I haveactually because I find that when we're able
to give a confident, consistent story, right, we're communicating to our audience
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who we are and what we're about. Actually created a framework that I take
clients to that I call your stylestory. And you, just like any
story or movie that you're you're watching, there are a few key elements that
really help us to be memorable,helps the story to have a confident story,
to be consistent, and it reallyjust aligns with a story. Right.
You start off with being clear beforeyou write a story or before a
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movie is made. There's clarity,right, what is this story going to
be about? Similarly, with yourstyle, you want to think about,
well, who am I? Howdo I want to move through the world?
You know what? What resonates withme? So we start with clarity
and then another another aspect of astory is a story happens somewhere, right,
there's a scene. And for ourstyle story, I say that's your
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closet. This is where everything kindof comes to life, right, whether
whether you're if you're going to whateveryou're going to create that date, it
starts in your closet. So wereally talk about creating a closet that works
for you, a closet that's filledpieces that work for you now that it's
not a museum of a life youused to live or a size you used
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to be, but really what whatwhat suits you now and the lifestyle that
you're living, whether it's will workand and and or professional or personal.
And then every story there is amain character and of course style that main
character is you, right, sowe really get we get clear on how
how do you address our body?You know, as we age, I'm
mature, our body is change andwhat if it doesn't fit or it fits
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differently? So we really get clearon your body shape and how to dress
this body shape? What, whatflatters? What? What? How we
bring attention to areas that we likeand maybe not and not so attention to
aras that we don't like. Andthen we go on to the wardrobe.
You think of a movie, right, so you can tell so much about
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the characters in a movie by theirwardrobe. Excuse me, similarly with you.
So we spend time really in yourin your plaster with your wardrobe,
creating outfits that are easy for you, that easily you can easily put together,
whether it's professional, whether it's personal, to really tell your story,
to communicate whatever it is that youwant. And it's really about building a
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wardrobe that's functional, right, thatyou can mix and and create great pieces
and great outfits so you feel good. And then the last of your story
is the supporting cast. Every storymovie there's a supporting cast. If it
was us about you, that maybea little bit boring, so, but
the supporting cast for your style.You know, we talk about color,
the colors that look great on you. We talk about your accessories and how
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to use your accessories to allow yourpersonality to come through to you know,
to tell, to allow people toknow you a little bit more. And
so when we put all of thoseelements together, it really helps us to
feel confident, helps us still havethat, you know, just to be
able to communicate who we are andhow we want to show up. And
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so using that whether progressing yourself andyour career, whether you're the face of
your business, that's a huge tool. Wow, to be able to get
it right now. I gotta askthis question because friend of mine, we're
always going back and forth over thisone here. How much should we pay
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attention to the trends when we're dressing? I mean, I mean, because
you know, things change, andif you look at the trends, some
of that stuff was way back whenand it's just repurposing coming back today.
And so you know, I'm oneof these people that I don't go out
every time something changes. I don'tgo out and you know, get that
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particular follow that trend. But howimportant is it or is it important to
follow trends? This is such agreat question, and I'm so glad you
asked, because first of all,there's a there's a few differences between trendy
and trends, right, So trendsjust kind of tell the this is what
the designers kind of tell us,this is what they're they want us to
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wear or we're seeing. We seea lot of it. It's we're easy
easy to get these pieces in storebecause they are what's the latest thing.
When you're a trendy, it justit means that you're constantly buying these trend
pieces, right, which is notsustainable, and you don't build a great
functional wardrobe just chasing the trends.Constantly chase your trends. First of all,
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that's very expensive, and then you'renot allowing your you to really show
up and say who you are.What is important when I when I work
with plans and we're talking about yourwardrobe, a great functional wardrobe really is
about eighty percent i'd say basics,right, your wardrobe basics the pieces that
and basics don't mean boring, butbasics with big pieces that you reach for
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all the time, these pieces thatyou know you make your great outfits with,
that you love to wear, thatlook great on your body. And
about twenty percent are trend pieces,pieces that you say, hmm, you
know that's interesting, I'm going totry that, but you're not. Your
entire wardrobe is not filled with trendsbecause you're constantly doing this and you don't
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want that. So you want tocreate a wardrobe that's i'd say bounce.
If you think of a meal,right with your With a meal, you
have your proteins, you have yourcarbs. The dessert is just a little,
a little sprinkling, right, Sosimilar thing to think about. So,
but I need to say this aswell, especially for folks who are
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in the job market. If you'regoing getting back into the job market.
Now, if you're a maybe aI like to say, an experience rich
employee, I'm retired too. Okay, you have to work out working or
anything like that. You don't haveto, right, but especially if you're
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in the job market and you're lookingfor a job or we're hearing so much
of that is happening, you wantto look current. That's the thing.
You're not necessarily trendy, but theimportant piece is that you're looking current because
again, you're communicating something you're alwayscommunicating by just how you show up.
Wow. Now, okay, giveme an example of what you mean by
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current. What would what would yousay would be an example today? Okay?
Absolutely? So you know before sobefore pandemic, we usually or not
usually, but let's just say,a more formal suit, maybe more fitted,
more kind of more structured, wasmore or less what people were to
work. That's what was deemed professional. Okay. Now you know that styles
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have changed, office cultures have changed. We're dressing much more more relaxed,
but we're still we still want tolook professional and appropriate for work. So
looking current could mean and I knowin certain clients I've worked with, they
may think that, okay, professionalonly means I have to wear a suit,
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so they get so they're wearing theirfull fitted suit formal to work.
That can lookated because that's not whatwe're doing. Now, you can still
look professional. The blazer is goingto be a little bit more relaxed,
it's not going to be as fittedand tied, even though overall silow way
is going to be a little bitlooser. So just things like that to
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not hold on to Okay, thisis what professional was, and then you
continue that for years and years.Things change, styles change, and you
want to look current because what Isay is on LinkedIn all the time.
If you show up dated or ifyou show up looking like you're a little
behind the times, people assume thatyour skills are also dated, right,
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because they can't because people are judgingus always right. We're always being judged.
Split second, people are judging,So you want to ensure that you
look current because then you're communicating thatI have my finger on the pulse,
I know what's happening in my industry. I I'm not stucking my ways.
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That's another thing that they want folksstuck in their ways. Employers are looking
for people who are adaptable, peoplewho are open to change, growth mindsets.
So all of those things are importantand you can communicate that with your
staff. Wow. Now when yousay, uh, stuck in your ways,
because I guess I tend to bethat way, are you meaning that?
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Are you meaning that I don't wantto change? Say, for example,
if I like pin Strive suits,then I'm just not gonna wear anything
but pins Strive suits. No,I'm talking about stuck in your ways when
it comes to work. So ifyou know, right, so they want
they employers really want you to notnot to be not be the person who
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says, this is how we've alwaysdone it, so this is how it's
going to be. Right. Theywant you to be open minded, growth
mindset. Right, So those thingsare are important. Okay, So just
so what I'm saying the point I'mmaking if you're you're showing up in this
very very formal suit I used towear, it doesn't show that you're open
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to change. It shows that thisis what was professional. And I'm sicking
to it and I'm always going towear that. You understand what I'm saying.
So that's that's really what we're communicating. We communicate all the time with
holy show up. Wow. Nowone of the things I did years and
years ago, and I don't know, maybe I should revisit that because you
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mentioned about colors, I went andhad a color assessment. Of course I
got on the color today that wasnot in that palette. But because I'm
supposed to be a winter and youknow, winter is like the blues and
the pretty pinks and different colors likethat. And how important is that you
know your colors? Because I actuallydo love blues. I love pinks and
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gray, and believe it or not, one of the things the lady did,
I remember, she showed me likeshe put on a color like she
would she put on I think itwas like, I don't know, like
a beige color. She put itnext to me, and then she took
that away and she put like awhite And you would be surprised is how
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much you light up just from thecolors, you know? I was.
Does that change as you age?You know your colors? Uh? Should
in other words, should I goget another reassessment of if I'm still a
winter person or not, or thatreally doesn't change. I don't. I
don't think you're that really changes youare. Looking at you, I would
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say that you are a winter Imean you can't always look and tell,
right, it's really important to dothe dripping. But those similar those colors
look great on you, right,those those deep the deep greens, like
kind of vibrant colors. Right.Purples, yea, the purples, the
reds, they the very vibrant colors. But yeah, as you age,
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not really and maybe maybe you maywant to maybe tone it down, but
usually your your colors are more orless the same. Wow. Wow.
And as I said, I Isee you all the time when you're posting
things and different outfits that you haveon, and sometimes you look so well
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put together. But it's not likeyou're dressed like you're going to an opera
something, but you're still you stilllook like you're well put together. And
I've seen you where you just siton a pair of jeans and a top
and a jacket and I'm looking,I'm like, that really looks pulled together,
you know. And I'm just yesterdaywhere you mentioned that you didn't used
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to like jeans, but now yes, jeans, and I'm the same way.
I didn't used to be a jeansperson, and I'm really still not.
That's not my first to outfit orgens. But when I read what
you were saying, it made sense, you know, because jeans have changed,
you know, so much since,like I said, things changed and
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they repurpose and all of that exactlyexactly. But that's so true, you
know. And that's another point,right, As we age and mature and
as we grow, we change aswomen, men, professionals, whomever,
humans. We change, and it'simportant that our style also changes with change
with us because you don't want tobe you don't want to be stuck,
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right, and you feel like you'restuck in our root. So you want
to change and evolve, just asas your style does. And you know,
you may have thought you were fabulousten years ago, but you can
still be fabulous now. It's justmaybe it just may look different. Right.
So that's also my point is thatwe don't have to feel like,
oh that the ship has passed.We're on that state, we're on that
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ship and it can still be likeGrainny, just because you are a grand
boy, I thought the words absolutely, no way right, And I don't
believe in that you know a certainage, so I can't wear a certain
thing and stylis for certain absolutely not. Style is available at all ages,
all sizes. It is really abouthow you interpret the styles. Is how
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you think? How you are comfortable? How? What? What are you
comfortable? Yes? Yes? Howare you comfortable wearing? What's going to
be? Because when you're sorry,when you're comfortable, you'll be able to
be confident. Right, you're notfixing it fidgeting, You're not wondering how
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does this look? Do I look? Does my boat look too big?
Does this? You know you're comfortable, and so that allows you to show
up. That allows you to reallyfocus on your gifts and talents and how
you're going to serve and help others. But it's about being comfortable. And
you had mentioned the point about howI look pulled together. I appreciate that,
so I thank you. And anotherpiece that I think is important it's
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intentionality. Right, Be intentional aboutthe message that you're going to send when
you get dressed. Right, SometimesI say, let's not think about what
am I going to wear today?But instantly, what do I want to
say? Today. Right, whatis it? What is the message that
I'm sending about me? What doI want folks to know about me?
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Right? So think about that andthen get dressed with some intention. You
have some intention, not just don'tjust think of your clothes, I'm just
going to throw something on. Ithink of be more intentional, and then
you'll find that when you create anoutput, when you create a wardrobe that
really supports how you live and supportsthe message that you want to send to
the world, it makes it somuch easier for you to put an outfit
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together. Right, You're not rummagingthrough and trying to find something because you
have all these things that no longerserve your lifestyle. As an example,
I came from corporate. My backgroundis corporate. So when I move up
to a move transition to being anentrepreneur, I still held on to all
of my corporate suits. I hadall these fabulous suits in my closet.
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Right, had all these suits becauseoh, I spent money on the suits,
and I may want to wear thesuits after maybe the suits and then
so every time I was getting dressedin the morning, when I walk into
my closet, it's a huge thing. Of suits, and then I had
a small section of what I wouldbe wearing that day. So really,
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your my closet wasn't serving me.My closet, not the life I was
living. So I was in courageclients to think about how are you living?
You think about your lifestyle, sothese suits. And then the other
thing I thought about is, butyou know, I may need to wear
suits again, and if I gointo corporate clients as a as a stylist,
I may want to wear my suits. But the important thing is,
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yes, I may want to weara suit, but those that style of
suit is three years, four yearsold, right, I'm not going to
want to wear that suit. I'mgoing to want to hear something new,
something fresh, right. So Ireally went through this process and really just
got rid of those suits because Iwasn't wearing head to toe suits and I
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didn't miss and I didn't miss them. That was the other thing, The
same thing. After a few yearsafter I retired, I did the exact
same thing, because, like yousaid, every time I went into the
closet, I had a cloent thatwas just filled with all these suits.
And so one time, one dayI just called this lady up. She
does the program Dress for Success.I called, I said, look,
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I have these suits, and shewas blown away because she didn't know she
was gonna be get suits. Itell you, I cleaned that closet out
and like, I gave away thosesuits because they were just sitting there and
taste the money picking up space exactly. Think about the fact that you haven't
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touched something in years, then youprobably that you're going to write and then
sometimes we said, oh, butI spent so much money on them.
But it's okay for you to giftitems that you spent money. And you
don't have to only give away itemsthat have no value. Right you can
gift others and I mean they'll givethem new love brings you new life and
opportunities to these to these women.So yes, that's my soap box.
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Now I have a question that Ihave to ask you, because this is
another question that I have done battlewith with someone that I know. We've
gone back and forth on this.Stockings. What do you think about women
wearing stockings now? Because you know, most of the time you see ladies,
don't you know, they're not reallyinto wearing stockings anymore? Tell me
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what your thoughts on on that.Okay, stockings, and this may not
be popular opinion, but I havenot worn stockings in years, unless it's
unless it's winter, like winter title. But I think you're asking me more
like stockings, like if you're goingto the office, that's what you're you're
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going to the office, or ifyou're you know, dressed in a nice
dress. You know, like ifyou're going on to a nice dinner,
a nice function, uh play orsomething where you're dressed in a nice then
yes, I could wear a stocking, but like every day going to work,
stock hold panty holes. Mm hmmmmmm mmmm. I think that's a
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personal preference. I don't. Ithink some people like to wear their stockings.
So but it's just it's a lotof work, you know, unless
it's unless it's like tights, likeyou know, I do, like,
you know, if you were likeblack, shared tights with with maybe boots,
boots and a dress or a sharkskirt or a miniskirt. I like
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that. But when I'm thinking ofit, stockings just like in your every
day work. Yeah, no,it's been a while. Yeah, I
don't think I haven't. Any ofmy clients have done stockings just maybe just
maybe tights in fall and winter?Okay, yeah, definitely. Now I
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gotta tell you, I like whenI get you know, put on a
nice dress or whatever. I dolike to have on stock and high definitely
in the winter time. I Amnot going to go with the time,
right, I mean, if you'regetting dress, nice dress, black,
you know, dress heels and it'sa fancy function, then yes, I
think for sure, you know,like a thin what do you call it?
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I don't remember the words? Notokay, but share share black tights?
Yes, absolutely right. So whatdo you mean when you talk about
style is a tool? Ah?Yes, so you know, I see
it as a tool to be ableto take us from where we are to
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where we want to go, whetherwe if it's you know, if you
set your career goals, career aspissionsor style is a piece of that entire
puzzle. Yes, your resume isimportant. Yes, it's important to the
networking. It's important to have thecover letter to get further accreditations. But
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I think people also people miss overlooktheir style being a part of their career
success toolkit. Right because I talkabout about your personal brand, your style
is a packaging of your personal brand. Right, it's the first thing that
people see. So it's a toolto help you. It's a tool for
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sure, for communication, right,it is you can say who you are
without speaking. People make assessments ofus in no time, in a few
seconds, right, they start tomake judgments and assessments. So your style
is a tool that for communication,and it's also a tool to help you
to position yourself for different opportunities.Now, you mentioned a personal brand and
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as a relationship, what do youthink the relationship between those two are our
personal brand and our style? BecauseI think one of the things that I
think women don't realize is that,especially when they're in the workplace in career,
they do have a personal brand andwhether they know it or not,
they there is a personal brand there. So what do you think that relationship
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is between the two, the personalbrand and the style. So personally,
a lot of people don't even thinkthey have a personal brand. They say,
oh, I'm just stun employee,I don't have I'm telling anything.
I don't have a personal brand.I mean, and sometimes people get reputation
and personal brand confused. When youhave when you think of your personal brand,
it's really about intention, right,and having intentionality behind your brand,
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so intentionally in terms of really intentionally, how you influence somebody to think something,
think a certain thing about you.Right, that's your personal brand,
So it encompasses it's a feeling,the feeling that people get when they work
with you, when they interact withyou. It is you know, your
skills and what you're known for.All of this is a part of your
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personal brand. And I have andas I mentioned previously, your style really
is the packaging of your brand becauseit's the first thing that people see.
So people say, I get pushback. Sometimes people say, well, that's
you know, that's that is verysuperficial. It shouldn't matter about what I'm
wearing because I'm a great employee.I am. I'm a great I can
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close deals or whatever it is thatyou're good at. Get that, I'll
get that pushback. And so myanswer is, and you know that may
be so true, but before Iknow what a fantastic fill in the blank
you are, I see you.Right, So that's the first thing.
And sometimes we're not even we don'teven know what opportunities we have missed because
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I didn't even think to offer it, just because they just didn't there was
a disconnect. And so in termsof your style and your brand, it's
really important that your style aligns withyour personal brand and it aligns with the
message that you want to send aboutyou. We spend all the time creating,
you know, your assets, Youspend all the time getting your resume
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up. You spend all this timegetting further accreditation, networking, getting sponsors
and mentors with throughout your career.Also, you need to you want to
include that piece that that that statues, because what happens is when you you
put your assets out there and peopleread about you or they see are they
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they're seeing all or hearing all that? And then when you show up,
if there is a disconnect right betweenwhat what you're putting out there and what
they expect, there's people are like, hmm, there's like a trust issue.
People like, am I if Iinvest in this person, whether it's
invest to do business, invest tohire, invest in promotion, what am
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I getting? Am I getting allof the things that they talk about or
their assets or what people tell me? Or am I getting what I see
in front of me? Right?And the confused mind don't buy confused minds,
They just step on. No,they don't, right, they don't
want so you want to be clear, which is why I say that your
your image and what you're saying,you really need to have a consistent,
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confident story, right that that linethat threat that runs through all of your
touch points, whether it's your it'show you look, it's your your what
you're doing on socials, it isyour resumes, your all of that.
It needs to be cohesive. Itneeds to really it needs to be aligned.
Wow, it's it's amazing that.Like you said, now, one
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of the things you always hear toois especially in the career in the workplace
is dressed for the position that you'dlike to attain. You know, sort
of like if you if you feellike you want to get into management or
executive position, then you should lookkind of look the part before you even
have the position. What do youthink about that? Do you agree with
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that? I agree with that.I agree with that. What's challenging now
is that because our dress codes arerelaxed and because you know, people aren't
really dressing as they used to.Sometimes there is it's great, right because
sometimes you'll have the levels up SDPsor the leadership team and they're very casual,
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especially depending on your industry. Sowhat I tell what I tell plans
is yes, use the next stepas a as a guide, right,
look at it and see take someclues from what the next level is wearing.
However, you if it's a verycasual organization, like when I work
with people who are in sports andentertainment, right, that that tends much
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more laid back. You can't takenecessarily or they'll tell me, Yeah,
but I don't like how my bossdresses. I don't think she dresses whatever
it is, you know, however, I don't like that. So it
is a great opportunity for you asa person as you're looking forward, for
you to for you to create yourstory, for you to take, for
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you to own the narrative, foryou to say, you know what,
I'm positioning myself with this level.This is this is a message I want
to send about me. So I'mgoing to dress this way. I am
going to present myself in a waythat when people see me when we're in
the office, when whatever it isthey're going to I'm going to own the
story that they're going to tell aboutme. Right, So, yes,
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take your clues from higher up.But I can be difficult depending on your
industry. However, use it asa time to really define your brand,
your personal brand. I know somepeople just have they have this is my
this is my standard. I'm notgoing even though the office is casual,
I'm not going to wear a jeansto work. That's not a part of
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who I am. So we empoweredto know that you can, you know
you you can still be authentic andshow up authentically. It's really a balance,
a balance of what is the employeeemployer expectations of employees, balancing how
you feel most comfortable so that andthen also what your audience expects so that
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it's it's a great balance. Absolutely. I remember when I was still working
and I was actually working in anarea where I actually did surveillance for the
organization I was working for, andmost of the people on the team said
they wore jeans, T shirts andstuff like that. But because I wasn't
that into jeans, I always worecasual slacks and the time, you know,
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so I didn't do the gene.I didn't go that much down but
obviously you know enough. But thething that happened was it was amazing because
what happened is that they started becauseI wasn't in the jeans of time whenever
they had to go into a restaurantor something to follow someone into a restaurant,
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that they started sending me because Ilook like I fit in a little
more than the ones that may havehad on the genes. And so eventually
they start they change the rule totell them the genes they every day and
that is it too write when youhold your standard, Yeah, come up
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to meet you, right, Andso it's really important, you know,
especially now since we have there's somuch blurring off what business casual is and
it already depends on your organization andindustry, the culture of the industry.
You know, clients, my clientswho are more formal industry, banking,
law, finance, they're gonna weartheir business casual is going to be very
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different from clients who are more marketingor social media marketing or digital marketing.
Right, they'll tend to be.And even that it's a generalization, which
not necessarily is true, because Ihave female lawyer clients and they all dressed
differently depending on the type of lawthat they have, they they they practice.
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Yeah, they all dressed differently.And also it has to do with
how they're comfortable, So we reallyhave to look at But what's important.
The point I want to make isthat the culture of your industry and your
company culture is important and those willdictate kind of what is appropriate dress for
your situation. And another thing toremember too, is it again if you're
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going for a higher level position.Because I also remember when we did have
the dressed down Fridays when you canyou know, like where the genes and
all it is, and that particulartime, one time I did wear a
pair of jeans and wouldn't you know, I got called in because I was
also a EEO representative. I gotcalled in to upper manage and to give
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them a briefing on the EEO stats. How do you go into So that's
too. That then another reason whyI never wore the jeans to work.
I always made sure if I diddress down casual, I also had a
nice jacket or whatever I could throwon to pull it together. Because that's
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that's something that also happened to me. And you don't want things like that
to happen to you, especially you'relike said, your your your brand,
your personal bring your image, becauseif I had walked in there with those
jeans on, It's like, look, you know they would have they would
have noticed that I had on thosegenes for sure. And you know that's
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a good point because when I workwith I worked with a client who was
in tech, big big tech company, and so you know, we know
we've also that tech is casual.Gan you know, jeans and T shirt.
She said, I'm tech, butI don't want to show up that
way, right, that is notwho I am. I So we spent
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time unreally created a wardrobe, notthat was full of suits, but a
wardrobe that you know, could stillit was still casual, but it wasn't
still polished, not jeans, butitems that she felt put together. She
felt, she felt confident in right, and definitely much more than jeans and
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T shirt. And I saw anarticle recently in the Wall Street Journal that
spoke to this. It was aman in tech. I think it was
maybe a Google employee, I don'tremember, in tech, and he noticed
that he usually wore like a graphictea and jeans. And he noticed in
a meeting somebody another man came innot in her jeans and T shirt,
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but more put together and he noticedhow that man commanded the room, how
people were respond to him, andhe changed what he was wearing because he
saw the difference it made on people. How people So it's it's important people
say, well, you know,you talk about authentic self, and my
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authentic self is just sweat hoo doI don't I don't know if I agree
with that. You can be comfortableand polished at the same time. They're
not mutually exclusive, and comfort isnot only a hoodie and sweats. It
can be, but there's retailers havedone a great job now of really providing
pieces that are comfortable that if youstretch, you can move in that still
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looks great for if you have anoffice environment where they really want it more
than you know you want to showa little bit a little more elevated.
Wow. So one of the thingsI'm hearing, because you spoke about this
before, that your style is apart of sort of a success too for
you. You got to make surethat you know your your style can help
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you actually not only change things sometimes, but move up because people will notice
you because you already you know,made your own style. So to spread
yes, and our style and colors, you know it can change our mood.
Data tells us as well that ifwe're feeling when we're feeling sad and
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down, we reach for clothes that'sbig and bulky and gray and really dark
colors that really keeps you down.And so the reverse is also to that
when you're and then when we're feelinghappy and excited, and we were bright
vibrant colors. This whole thing soonafter the pandemic that was called dopamine dressing,
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where you wear bright, lively colorsand you just feel bright and lively
and vibrant. So when you're feelingdown right, think about maybe just changing,
okay, reaching for pieces in yourcloset that have more colors, that
colors that make you feel great,that you feel happy, that you feel
uplifted, and as opposed to wearingmore dark and subdued tones. Wow.
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So as you talk about the pandemicand and you know how people dress before
then and how they're doing now,what would be your advice or guidance for
our viewers to show up well forthemselves now at this point? Yes,
I think the first thing is toreally get clear on who you are,
get clear on how you want tomove through the world. What do you
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what message do you want to setto send about you? How do you
want your audience to receive you?I think that's really important, Right do
you want are you are you goingto be giving a big presentation? Are
you showing up on zoom? Andyou have to lead? So what are
you going to wear that gives yousome more confidence that you're going to feel
great in? Do you? Doyou have a new are you going to
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be leading a new team where youwant to feel approachable? Right? Where
you don't want to be in aIf that's the case, you don't want
to wear a very formal black suitbecause that gives a separation, right in
terms of I'm here, you're there, right, So you want to maybe
wear brownze and some kind of warmcolors that so that people so that people
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feel approachable, that you're approachable,you know, if you're in banking or
insurance, right than our private bankinginsurance sort of that, and you're working
with clients and you really want tobuild some trust, right, think about
you know, maybe some colors,some green, some blues. There's this
whole thing on color psychology and notundergotting that, but you really want to
be intentional about the message that you'resending about you, about who you are.
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So I think that's the first thingis to really get clear, you
know, be comfortable, create awardrobe that speaks to your life and how
you live, and create piece,create invest in pieces that you could that
can you can easily mix and matchand create different outfits with. And you
know, style should be fun andsomething that you can lean on to give
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you strength, to give you couragefor it to be fun. So,
you know those are my main things. Wow, So tell us what next?
What do you have coming up?Anything on the horizon that you want
us to know about? What doI have coming up? Well, it's
it's spring, so you know it'sa great time for folks to really think
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about how are they showing up,you know, peeling back the layers of
fall and winter and thinking about,you know, how do I want to
show up? No, I thinkit's a great time to relate, kind
of reassess the message that we're sending, reassessed the closing our closet. Are
you holding onto pieces that don't fit? Are you holding on too and saying
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I'm going to lose these ten poundsthat you've been trying that you've been saying
for the past five years is you'remaybe nine years old, right, So
those are things to really to thinkabout. And so in terms of me,
right, you know, maybe youwant to just have a call and
talk about you know, see whatdoes it look like if I'm investing in
me and really updating my style.So I think that's something that I'm excited
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about. Springs a busy time forpeople in general to say, hey,
I'm ready to show up better formyself. Absolutely absolutely, So tell us
how can the viewers and listeners reachout to you if they want to find
out more about you know, theirstyle and what they can do how they
can show up better? Well?Absolutely well, I have a a dressing
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your body shape that which I thinkis a foundation of really looking having your
clothes fit well and if you can'tin your clothes and it's at bigly front
slash dressing, best you can getthere or I'm on LinkedIn Rene Lindo and
my website is Let's get Dressed Now. But yes, I'd love to talk
(44:53):
about this topic. I'm passionate aboutit. So if you have any questions,
reach out to me for sure,and my free guide is awesome.
It goes through other different body shapsand explains kind of what to wear and
hope to wear it, wear italrighty, well, thank you so much.
You appreciate you coming on and givingus those tidbits on dressing and style
(45:14):
and our image and all of that. Really appreciate you. I know your
schedule is busy, so I doappreciate you taking time out to come and
talk to us. Thank you somuch for having me, Doctor Lister.
Conversation was great, so thank youfor the invitation. Absolutely so. Now
I'm just going to give everybody alittle bit of what's coming up next.
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continue to share, Please continue tolike, Please continue to comment on the
video if you'd like to. Ifyou have not seen it, you can
(47:34):
watch it on YouTube. Put inmy name doctor Madelin Anne Lewis in the
search box and it'll come right up. Or email me if you'd like the
direct link to send the email toinfo at exwsi dot com. I'm also
a contributing writer for on It magazine, where I share every month and article
(47:55):
of some type of article on resourcesfor personal, professional and business development.
So make sure if you'd like toget a subscription, you can go to
my website which is www dot exwsidot com to get an annual subscription to
the magazine. Very nice magazine,lots of great information in it. Marissa
(48:19):
Bluodorn is the one that puts themagazine together. She's the publisher for Only
magazine. So I am so excitedtoday because our guests really did give us
some great information. As you know, our guest today was miss Renee Lindo.
I want to thank her again forbeing here. I also want to
(48:42):
thank my viewers and my listeners forjoining me today. This is the success
for women's show. I'm doctor MadeleineLewis, and if you'd like to reach
out to me, you can emailme at info at exwsi dot com or
go to my website www dot exwsi dot com. You can reach me
(49:02):
on all the social media websites I'mavailable. Just you can reach out to
me on any of them to sendme a message through those make sure to
subscribe to our channel YouTube channel alsothe Talk for TV channel. Continue to
like and share the episodes, especiallythis one today with Miss Renee Lindo because
(49:24):
again we had some great tips thatshe left with us. This again is
the successful women's show. We're hereevery week. I am your host,
Doctor Madlin and Lewis helping women toaccelerate the path to success. Again,
thank you so much for joining us. I love you all to life and
(49:46):
as always, be well and staysafe out there day rather than its day. Ma
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