David Reece of Bangalore Choir Reveals NEW Album Cover & Title

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hi, you have done to the censure Onulze Wow for you,
young Hi and David Rison. I'm really excited to review
for you the album title re cover for the brand

(00:25):
new bengl Require album. It's Finnish people. I'm really still
in the autum for the end of the year twenty
twenty five. The title is Rapid Fire, our Succession on
Target Part two and here's the album cover. Tw do
you nick y'all?

Speaker 2 (00:43):
This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe
Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm very excited
about our next guest because there's some killer new music
coming out the end of this year. So let's welcome
to the show. David Reese from Bangalore. I can't even
speak today.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Bangalore quiet, Bengalore quiet.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
I know I'm like ton twisted today.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
That never happened to my brain.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
So greetings to you, and I just want to say,
right off the bat, I have a question, right off
the bat. You just revealed a new album cover. Is
that the same model that was in the original on
Target album? No to see it looks like it could

(01:32):
be today's version of that.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Well, that's a good time that similarities struck you.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
But yep, the colors everything, you know, it all looked like.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, I mean I I wanted to do on Target
Park too, So I studied it top to bottom.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
I love it well. You and you were a guy
keeping the name of the album a hush hush. And
now we're out and it's coming out the end of year.
So how is this is the part two? How would
you say part two is different from part one or

(02:21):
similar or both?

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I don't know. I would say similar. And it came
to me. I was in France last year doing a
bunch of gigs and strangely enough, I live in Italy, right,
and I played all over Europe in the world, and
I've never played France. But in my show I played

(02:45):
four or five songs from a Target every show, and
the French were going crazy, right wow. And so I
get in the car and I'm coming home and I'm
like thinking about branding and the whole thing. David Reese
is the soul of artist Dave does. Okay, you know
what I mean, But branding, you know what? That's all right?

(03:09):
So I called the manager about halfway home and I'm like,
I'm going to put together Bangalore Choir again. But I'm
going to call it David Esus bangal or Choir, but
I'm going to reach out to the some of the
original guys. Sadly we've lost one who passed away. But Crickets, yeah,
thanks Crickets. Curtis doesn't want to tour anymore, just not interested.

(03:33):
Uh Ian the bass player, he and I did some
stuff a few years ago. He was he was cool,
but I just went, you know what, I'm not gonna
take the dead, get out of the garbage sack, try
to revive it. So you know, the branding thing. I
want to compare it to like, let's say, Top of
my Head Mike Tramp and the song good White Line.

(03:57):
You know that was it. It was just like, you know what,
this has gone as far as I can take it.
I need to bring back the band, the brand, and
everybody was jumping up and down because it really had
kicked lookings in the high gear. Things started happening quick.
Probably didn't say much for me as a solo artist,

(04:18):
but you know, the brand bro and then similar, I guess.
I went back to on Target and I talked to
Brave Word's records. I said, I'm going to do this,
and they said Okay, if you're going to do Bangalore,
we got to be on target. We got to get there.
Can we do that? It's a long time ago, man,

(04:40):
I'll figure out my head s free. So I studied
the record, even though I've been playing it live. But
to go back and put your head back in that space,
not so Andy. Susamil and I my weapon of mass production,
my go to guitar player. He and I made an
attempt three or four songs and it just wasn't clicking.

(05:02):
And then which will soon be the second single with
a video. It's called a Driver's Seat. When he sent
me the rip of that I heard slipping away, I said,
now we're getting it. So I recorded the vocal and
then we did Bullet Train, which I'm sure you've heard, Yeah,
and it just all started coming. The thing is that

(05:25):
it was, you know, I wanted, you know, going back
to the album, covering everything. I contacted Simon Zouke and
I said, this is the first album and this is
we've got to be similar. So we tried to tie
the nostalgia and everything together, and I think we did.
I got to say, dude, this is I'm really proud

(05:46):
of this record.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Well, that's always good to hear, because you know what,
when you've been a musician, as long as you have
to have excitement about what you're doing after this many years,
that means it's good.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Well. I mean, and also people like you. I mean,
the incredible amount of media that I've done and radio,
it's tenfold what I was getting for the last ten years.
I mean, it's just and I And that's an attribute
to you know, brave work doing a really the outreach.

(06:22):
I mean, they lectured me like a kid going school. Dave,
your website sucks. You're not on top of the new game.
I'm an old dog, dude, I don't understand of this.
So brand Ball really schooled me. And I've got to
do to keep it the current, get it out there,
the mass overreach, you know what I mean. So I

(06:43):
learned a lot thinking that I was reaching the public.
Not not even close, you know. So I got schooled.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Right. It's never too late to learn right, right.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
I mean, you know, he even said it, guys, after
forty you guys are clueless of what's really happening out
there for people to get a visual or an audio
of what's going on with you, because like a lot
of bands. If you look at their page, you know
they got a new album out, but they still have
the album from three years ago on the banner, right,

(07:19):
you know what I mean. And he's making really good
points and I'm like, well, at least I'm not that
negative or lame. But he says, you got a long
way to go, kid, So he's good. I'm learning as
I go.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Well, and you know, it's great that you can have
somebody to coaching you like that so you can be
relevant nowadays, because I think the resurgence of real musicianship
is actually happening, but it takes veterans like you guys
to bring that stuff back.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Funny you should say that, I just said mister an
European podcast about an hour ago. He said, the resurgence
is there, but as you guys, you Oldzheimer's are the
ones that really know how to deliver. But he did
say he's seen a lot of young bands kind of
coming along down that road playing what we kind of

(08:14):
we're all part of.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
There is some new bands like that are bringing back
that like seventies.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Vibe, Bring it, man, bring it.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
No doubt. I was just saying that before, like listen
music nowadays, isn't like back in our day where like
now it's so programmatic and like a formula I called
an algebraic equation to make music, especially metal and rock.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Okay, it's quantized, it's quantized on a grid, and there's
not a bad note. I mean, you come from the
school I do listen to an old except one album
Plants not singing on key and a lot of those songs.
But he's delivering the goods. No, Page is not, you know,
doing this neoclassical what are we going to? Blind made

(09:03):
speed stuff? And he's playing some bad notes, but it's
the song. It's a vivor you know, rival sons, BlackBerry Smoke.
There's a few bands out there, dirty Honey that I'm going. Okay, man,
come on, guys, you know, I mean BlackBerry has been
around for a quarter century. But I saw him here

(09:24):
in Italy not too long ago. And to see a
thousand Italians sing along with a bunch of hicks from Georgia, right,
that impressive. Yeah, it was. It was like kind of
like seeing the new Tom Petty, this organic ground swell. Right.
There were people there that were like fifteen up to
like seventy five eighty years old, you know.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
That is something that amazes me nowadays. Like I do
radio coverage of festivals over the US, UK, Europe, and
one of the things I noticed first of all is
when I was a teenager, you weren't going to see
sixty year olds playing metal, you know, But now the

(10:06):
kids like, I'm like, how did these kids even know
some of these bands? But then Europe in particular, so
the first time I started going over to Europe to
do festivals, I'm like, holy shit, I thought that band
didn't even exist anymore, and they were just really playing
in Europe all these years because they love it.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Bengalo or Choir. You know, when that naughty little band
came out of Seattle and changed the world. I knew
it was a temporary band aid on a new movement
when we committed suicide to you know, the kind of
rock we were doing in La and that at that time.
But I had no idea when Warner Brothers dropped us
that the grunge movement didn't touch Europe for maybe two

(10:50):
years later, and that Bengalo or Choir were really big
in the UK, Germany, especially Scandinavia. Even here we're really
well known so that's why my songs from that record
people know the words and they sing along with me
since nineteen ninety two. And the thing about the European

(11:13):
fan base, which is something I love. You can throw
out a few stinker records, but if they love the band,
they're going to follow you. Yeah, they're not going to
throw the here today, go on later today mentality. Like
you know fast food McDonald's music. In America, it's a
loyalty and they have this tribal thing, this community with

(11:35):
the festivals. That's amazing. I'm hoping that America comes because
I really want to bring this over to the States,
you know, in early April, and we're talking about it
right now. Of course, I use in America a bunch
of guys because it's retarded with THESS to bring guys

(11:55):
from here over. Excuse me, but yeah, I know exactly
what you mean. I go to see you, like I
went to see Metallica and there were kids that are
like eight ten years old and people eighty years old. Right,
it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
You know, and it's fun. I thought of Metallica when
you were talking about the American mentality and post of
European because I was at Metallica's first show ever in
LA and I remember say that again, no kidding, yeah,
and Slayers first show ever awesome. But uh, I remember

(12:36):
when the Black album came out and then the twenty
five you know, core fans of Metallica were like, fuck them,
they're posers, sellouts, blah blah blah blah blah. You know,
and it goes along with what you were saying. It's like, uh,
forget it. But at the end of the day, okay,

(12:59):
still today this is one of my favorite bands because
of that, you know feeling that you get the feeling
that Europeans get when it comes to music and festivals.
Like I was just talking about this with Jimmy was
my last interview, and we were talking about I just

(13:21):
came back from a festival Bloodstock in the UK, and like,
there were bands playing at ten thirty in the morning
that nobody knew who they were, but they had the
same size crowd as somebody like machine Head and ten
thirty in the morning. You would never see that in
the festivals I do in the States.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
No, and that's the magic. The first time I played Vaka,
I remember the next morning, I'm an early bird, so
I get up and walk through the war zone. There's
like a mud hole, right, and there's people literally it
looked like where they've been doing. Mortars been going off,
and there were people down there in the mud and

(14:00):
water with their best people standing around on the above
the hole, kissing on them, singing in their language from
other country. It was like Viking pirates, you know it.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
I'm wandering the grounds and then you hear a fan
playing and you look forward and there's ten thousand kids
that haven't slept, their wing covered in mud, you know.
And then all day long some of them fall out,
they get too drunk, of course retired, and then they
go lay down their tent in the camper. And then
about seven it gets really crazy here they call the

(14:37):
army of maniacs. And then by the time it was dark,
it's it's a beautiful well. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
I also I do health Fest, speaking of France, and
that is like one of the most insane festivals ever.
Like they say Vakin is the Grande, but I think
Hellfest is taking that trophy. Now.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Oh yeah, it's a great festival. I mean, I they
got volcanic here, they got help us. They got another
one too, I'm doing Headbangers next year with Bangalore and
I'm doing Volcanic Nice. So that that shows you that,
like grass pop, last year you had. The cool thing

(15:17):
is the stage is here, I'm looking at you. We finished,
the crowd turns their back to you and they're looking
at the stage on the other side, and there's fifty
thousand maniacs for four straight days, maybe more night, I
don't know, but anyway, we sy sort you had Steel
Panther playing. They can't understand a word they're rambling about,
but they loved the band. Then you had o Limp Biscuit,

(15:40):
Then you had both Gang van Halen, then you had
Slip Knot. I mean you had this big palette something
for everybody. Yeah, and they were there. It was just
it was the electorate. Man, the energy was electric.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
I was there last year for grass pop because usually
grass Pop and Heal Fast is the same weekend. I'm
always doing hell fests, but last year I was like, oh, cool,
they're on different weekends because I always wanted to check
out grass pop And yeah, you're so right, And you know,
it amazes me how into it people are. Like I'll

(16:16):
tell you what that olymp biscuit pit was probably one
of the most brutal pits I've been in, and I've
been in a lot of brutal pits.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
He just played here. My wife's a huge fan and
my step son and her the slip up shells when
they Papa roach and they go cuku. My wife is
a music fanatic, you know, and she's right there. I mean,
it's like, be careful, honey, you know, don't wear anything
sharp and watch out for you don't put on your goggles. Yeah,

(16:52):
I mean, you know. I mean, but I'm not knocking
my country. I'm an American, Red white and blue. But
the fact is that there is a bigger range for
artists in the European.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Goun Well, you know, you drive around like I've road
tripped Europe a few times, you know, and you turn
on the radio and it's like you you're in back
to the future, going back to the eighties.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Angel You don't have one corporate controlled radio station that's
got the big Master disc playing the same song every
hour and thirty minutes for the advertisers. You've got Virgin
Radio here in Milan. You've got Germany's got a few,

(17:38):
Scandinavia's got a plethora stations. But what's really cool about
America is even though they're Internet station, there's an underground
And as I said earlier, I have not had the
airplay that I'm getting now in at least ten years.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
I mean I just got told the nineties in Baltimore
in the top ten. Still it came out the nineteenth
of July.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah, man, I mean it's like something's going on. I
don't know what it is, but it's rock and roll
and that's the beauty of it.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Get back to the basis.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
I think too, Like the Danny Wimmer festivals. He's tried
to pattern off of Europe and he's bringing a lot
of new bands. Like there's this one band it's so funny,
it's so old school punk, silly Goose. Okay, they showed
up at a Danny Wimmer festival and we're playing in

(18:41):
the parking lot, you know, the total old school that's invadeable,
and Danny was sitting out there watching them, and instead
of like giving them a hard time and bust them,
they played on the real stage the next day. And
now they play a bunch of his festivals.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Okay, that we lost that you know, for about I
don't know since ninety five. Yeah, it seemed like that
kind of got lost, you know. I mean when I
started out, you know, we would do the five set shows,
incessantly playing three hundred and fifty days a year, play

(19:20):
the top covers in rock, try to write some songs,
and swear to god, I'd never do this again. I'd
know myself if I have to go back to Rockford
or oh play Wisconsin, but I would put my balls
off to do one more grinder like that and a
stinky vand because you know, we don't know how good
we happened. I mean, remember those days when you could

(19:44):
walk out of a club, walk literally down the street
at after your set, watch a band play and it's
packed seven days a.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Week, no doubt. I pretty much lived at the Sunset Strip,
you know.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
I mean I saw Motley Cruce first gig at the
Whiskey on Valentine's Day with a band called a La Carte,
a three piece band opening for them, and we saw
this marquee of these crazy looking dudes from the VP
and where crews are on my band, I go look
at those Francisco see him. We walked in and I went,

(20:19):
oh my god, this is this is this is earth
changing something. Something's happening, because they had their street following,
and I was sitting with Tommy in the hotel them
doing nefarious things around the theater painter, and I said,
you know, I'm telling you guy did the whiskey blah
blah blah and the Valentine's gig with a bank called
Ala Cart And he like leaves the bed and tackles

(20:39):
me onto my bed, and I'm like, what said, yeah, man,
I explained, you know, Mickey liked himself on fire the
black and white Motley Crue balloons in the garbage shack.
And he's like, oh, I got and I I knew,
I just knew. And I saw Mickey brat. You know,

(21:00):
I saw David Lee Rock walk into a club and
basically take the place over. Yeah, who's who's his stickhead?
But you know the thing about him, you believed it,
even though he thought he was a douchebag. I believe
that that, you know. Well.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
One of my funniest stories is the eighty three US Festival,
Van Helen's headlining Metal Day and they're starting to playing,
talking about loving he's not singing and Eddie's looking over
at him. There's three hundred thousand people and no shame.
He just goes over to Mike. I fucking forgot the words,

(21:37):
and the whole place erupted like it was the best
thing it ever had except one dude that heckled him,
and he goes, I'm gonna fuck your girlfriend. Yeah, and
that is a rock star in my opinion right there.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yeah, he just had this man he still does in
my friend you know, I mean, we all get older,
but he there's a story about him. It's just classic.
I forget what band it was before they got van
Healen got sanged. I think it was quite right. He
walks in with assless jeans, no shirt, you know, suspenders.

(22:15):
Barney's grabs the microphone from I think to Bro and
screams it stops the band and said, my name is
fucking David b Roth. I'm going to be the biggest
rock and rolf i'veing star on the planet. And people
were booing it. Like I said. When I saw him
sutting around, people are like, that's a dick. But I
believed it, you know, right, he just had this Jim

(22:39):
Dandy on steroids is what I always.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Well it's funny too. You mentioned Crew. Okay, so am I.
I'm from Jersey and my dad moved me out to
California in nineteen eighty. What a time to move to La.
Culture shock, man, Oh, total culture shock. But the first
club show I ever went to my life was that
the Roxy and it was Motley Crue before they had

(23:04):
the album. Wasn't their first show, but it was before
they had the album. Yeah, and you brought me back
when you were talking about lighting on fire because they
were lighting everything on fire, try and bring Satan into
the Roxy. And I walked out of there. I was like,
I think I was like thirteen at the time or

(23:24):
forteen Island. I'm like, I'm never going to a real
concert again. That was the greatest thing I ever saw.
And then now you know when I am in La
and I play to Rainbow and I'm like, man, how
did I get in here when I was thirteen, fourteen,
fifteen years old? Oh that's right. I was walking over
from the Roxy with Motley Crue. That's how I got
in there.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, you know, yeah, I mean I remember the great
days of Mario and Michael and everybody. You know. Marigo's
sitting at the bun door. I mean the debauchery. We
were fricking pirates, man, I mean it was you know,
I had my wedding party there upstairs, and you remember
the rooster. The rooster's next at the top, right. All

(24:06):
kinds of bad things happened in that little room. But
I mean I was like, hey, Tony, Mike, I'm getting married.
Can I have my wedding party here? And they're like,
whatever you want, let's go down. I had the hole upstairs,
and of course everybody from hell was there, free alcohol, right,
So yeah, man, I missed that. I think it's inside

(24:32):
you still, Otherwise you wouldn't be doing this. It's in me.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
It's always, It's always.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah that magic times dude. Oh my god. I saw
Zeppelin and I remember the crowd literally started burning wooden
chairs on the floor in Saint Paul, Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
And they were dancing around this fire like going crazy,
and plant went and twenty thousand people went Island. If
you don't stop burning and going crazy, the band are
leaving and everybody's like, okay, dad again, and he stopped

(25:15):
the crowd. But I'm sitting in the audience going, wow,
that's Robert planted, and that's Jimmy Page and Bomb and
that's John Paul. I see with Ted NuGen and Heart
like three four times a year in the Midwest for
five bucks right now.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Oh yeah, I don't even know how kids go to
shows today. Like it was like two bucks for a
ticket and five bucks for a T shirt. And you
were good. And I scraped ship up. I had to
scrape that ship up. That was like a fortune.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah, it was, Mom. Can you drop me off at
the auditorium? So and So's player, Well, it's the only
for him, Honey. It's not safe, right, But I'll be fine, Mom.
I'll just find a bunch of knuckleheads like me and
we'll just hang out into the gates.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Oll right, Well, check out this story. Okay, So you
came into this part of the story a little later,
a few years later, but so and you'll get what
I mean when I tell you. So, I we were
going to see Ozzy on New Year's Eve, and I
told my dad I was sleeping at my bro's house.

(26:19):
He told his parents he was sleeping at my house.
And we went and saw Ozzie wit Randy on New
Year's Eve, Okay, Which that's epic. And then so we
get home and I lived in Lake Lindero in Agura Hill,
so like my backyard went straight down to the lake.
So we were hanging down by the lake so my
dad wouldn't see us. And my next door neighbor comes out, okay,

(26:45):
and she goes, oh, boys, she sees us in the
Ozzy stuff. Were you at the Aussie show Last Name?
And we're like, oh fuck, we're busted man, And we
were like yeah, wait right here, I'm getting my husband
and we're like, oh fuck. And the husband invites us
up to the house, into his studio. In his house
that was wall thewall cassette tapes. Turned out he was

(27:08):
Ozzie's promoter, so he gave us a bunch of swag.
But here's the part that will blow your mind. He
hands me this cassette. He says, this band's not in
the United States anymore. I'm yeah, they're gonna be here
in like six months and they're gonna be huge. And
I remember I listened to the first song on that

(27:31):
cassette and I was like, oh my god. That was
the first except album Small World right how Wild?

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Next I was in Milwaukee and Restless Wild was on
bloodbed Fine and we would sit around the band house
doing bong kicks and this guy walked him with that
record and put.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
It still gives me.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah, Street the first speed metal band, who spawned Slayer,
who spawned Metallica. I don't care what anybody says, except
spawned the speed metal movement.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
I'll verify that with you. I'll verify that because one
of my best friends is Dan Spit and oh yeah,
and he told me straight out. All of them, Anthrax,
all the big four Anthracks, Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer, they all
were like, that was the first thrash metal song ever.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
When I was in accept we went to Monsters of Rock.
Anthrax was playing, David b Rock and Mayden was headlining
this without makeup. We were in the tempt area in
the back and a big storm picking of court Germany right,
never had a nice sunny, cold day. And Spit was
there like a little kid looking at Wolf Hoffman going

(29:04):
heuring the die man, you know, and being the studians
going dude, you're Wolf Hopman, you know what I mean?
And he's just send me, you are the reason we're
playing what we do and he's like, well, thank you
very much, you know, very gentleman. I appreciate timing, But dude,

(29:24):
you don't realize the impact that that band had on
the metal scene in America and world.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
What there was nothing that song.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
You want to touch on, that story, We can touch
on that, you know.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
I mean, we can tell any stories you want to tell.
It's your world. I'm just living.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
One second. The weirdest thing about it was I was
in La, back to our little stomping ground, got to
get my my ic T excuse me, and and before
I got an accept I couldn't get arrested. Bro, everybody's
a waiter is going to be an actor, and everybody's

(30:06):
a lead singer, you know, standing on the corner of
some set, passing out flyers. I couldn't get arrested. I'm
a big guy, you know, I'm not the little girly
but Brett Michael guy, you know, lipsick, I'm not into that.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
No, couldn't get arrested. Man. But I had a really
dear friend named Lucy Forbes who had a little thing
called Rock Congress, and her old vision was rock placement agency.
You know, I'm going to get guys in big bands
or corn bands. Didn't have a clue what she was doing,
but she had a hearted goal. She was a sixties
biker chick, you know, knew all the you know, the

(30:44):
doors and all that informatic. So I'm homeless, sleeping on
a hardwood floor in Santa Monica, and I had reported
a bunch of demos with Mitch Perry, the guitarist who
played which thanker later and played with Tallis and she
and all this guy couldn't get anybody who listens to
it good songs, you know. But I was twenty three

(31:06):
maybe and living in her house. One day I just
I just said, you know what, I got to get
out of here because the la can eat you a lot. Yeah,
I'm working in factories, I'm you know, starving. I'm doing
anything I can, kind of book gigs. One day I
just said, you know what to talk it, I'm out.

(31:27):
And she looked at me, she said, where are you going?
I said, my mom and dad moved to Colorado. I'm
going to go on the ground and I'm going to
go live there. I'm done, So I leave that to set. Miraculously,
like a week later, Peter Dirk's, the producer of the Scorpions,
has got scorpions business and he's banging Lucy on the side.

(31:49):
Goes to visit her and says, hey, I got an issue.
We get this English guy and then the band, except
it ain't work the Saints Robert. Do you know anybody
that would work? I need a singer yesterday. She goes
check this guy out and hands him Mike thes un.
He puts it in. He goes, that's the guy wo
because he can hear voices, he's a producer, he knows

(32:10):
what he's looking for. I'm at the time wholist. I'm
just a rock singer guy. And she didn't know where
I was. So they go on. She goes, I think
he went to Colorado, to Colorado Springs. I'm going to
try to find him. He goes, find that dude. So
they went. She went through the phone book. I guess
director says there's something. There's only so many. Jack Reese's

(32:32):
in Colorado Springs called my dad and I'm living up
on the mountain painting houses, you know, and he says, yeah,
I need to find Dave and he's okay, I'll tell
him to call. They give out my phone number to
Wolf and one night there's a blizzard happening outside. In
the phone ranging and it's wolfowk wow, Hello, I speak

(32:56):
with David new Spee. This is both Palpman. The bis
up said yeah, I'm fucking Mickey Mouse, fuck you, and
I hung up. So he calls right back. I think
we have a bad dinection, but I'm telling you it's
you know, and he starts give me the spiel and
I'm like, yeah, I'm on a plane, let's go. So
next thing I know, I'm flying the dusel Door and

(33:19):
I'm auditioning for except Wow, and this didn't happen. I
mean the German way. Guys. You know, it's very particulous.
She replaced a guy like Udo. You know, there's a
lot of anxiety. So I mean literally the next day,
Peter wakes me up at im I got jet leg
I maybe slept two hours. Let's go, I said, where

(33:42):
are we going? He goes to the studio and I'm like, cool,
I get to meet the scorp me. I'll tell you know,
I'm a kid, and he just looks at me like,
oh whatever. Because they're finishing Savage Amusement. I walk in,
there's Rudolph and Dieter and I go hey man, I'm like,
I'm He looked at me like I was from Mars.
I think they're having an argument. So Peter took me

(34:03):
directly into a demo studio in the base, put on
a two instroy Tay and this first song was turned
the wheel around, had the title, puts the fifty eight
in front of my face with a board sitting there
and goes sing something.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
I mean it's like And so we spent day after
day after day writing lyrics and me singing on thisfty
eight and what the band would do would coming at
night separately and listen to what I've done, Yeah, and Peter.
The final audition was a live gime in Cologne, Germany's

(34:44):
biggest metal band, performing one night only. That was my
final audition. Was therefter about three months before they said
yes or come maybe longer. And of course they invite
all the heavy weights, Gruce Dickinson, all these guys because
at the time, Bruce is working for the fencing team
in Bon, Germany. He's in the captain's uniform. Shows up.

(35:06):
I'm good to see well, I'm like, what's he doing here?
I wanted to get his opinion. The fuck I'm going
home and you look out the window across from the
restaurant and there's a line of people standing in the
march rain because they know who it is, right, And
I was terrified. Did the gig BLAKELM And I fully

(35:30):
expected to be sent home. The next day, I hear
them all talking in the guests out, well, I better
go face the music. It's been a cool trip, and
they reach out their hands said, welcome to it's up.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah, And look, you just never know what's going to
happen in life, you know, in it beautiful, Oh I
love it, like see even for me. So I left
LA when all, you know, when it became really bad
with the hair metal, Like originally when mattawkan player went
up to Bay Area, me and my bro used to
like hitchhike up there to go to shows up there

(36:07):
because they left us. They left us with all the
glam shit, you know, and all the girl boys, and
you know, the scene was not the same. So then
like I went back to Jersey to go to college,
and I ended up leaving the whole sand Like It's
funny because I knew everybody and it was like I

(36:28):
just had this idea, like I went, I was playing guitar,
I was singing, and I was like, yeah, I'm not
selling my soul for this shit. Like I'm not because
I sat back stage, you know, and saw what record
labels did to these bands, okay, and I'm like, yeah,
I'm not selling out for that. So I left and

(36:51):
I ended up in the financial business. And I was
pretty big in the financial business. And the Wolf of
Wall Street, I knowew him personally, it was my competition,
you know, and and uh yeah he was a douchebag
by the way. Uh but but that movie is so
spot on except for where you're throwing the little people

(37:13):
at the dartboard. Everything else is true. And to me
it was weird because in that business it was the
same type of energy and debauchery as being in metal.
The difference was is I traded in my leather jack
and battle vest for a normany suit, you know, but

(37:33):
the same bullshit, you know, the same.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Drugs, lies, money, money corrupt everything, Money corrupted music, It
corrupts totally. I mean, it's I mean, who doesn't want
and I think that what it what? You know, I
don't know about you, but saying earlier rock and roll
committed suicide. I mean, what normal guy you can look
at a cream magazine to go, dude's got five nickd

(37:58):
Chicks spring whip cream on his dick. You know what
guy living in Portland or Seattle with a single mom
and a fucking single wife. Tim relate to that, right.
You know, we fucking cut our own head off despite
our face. So then you got these bands, you know,
delivering something that's heavy with a message to that generation.

(38:22):
You know, we all got shot in the head and
here comes this new like you said, I mean, they
don't want to be corrupted. But then again, Durban and
all these bands who were like anti corporations, they went corporate.
Mm hm, you know, and what happened there? You know,
all the people that believed in them from the street dates. Hey,

(38:44):
you guys sold out like a black album for you Yeah,
so totally. Uh, it's a cyclical thing. But like you said,
the Jersey in New York and Wall Street thing is
stuck exchange. I can't imagine that I'd be dead. I mean,
I thought my habits were bath from what people have
told me. They said, it's like fucking pirateships sailing down

(39:06):
Thyme Square. Oh yeah, you guys were you guys were
killing it man one.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
And the thing that you had more than you had
in the metal community was money. So it created more
debauchery because you had too much money to blow. Like listen,
I was twenty one years old making like fifty grand
a month, you know, and I'll tell you what I
spent every time of it and nothing.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
I'm going a load too, I mean a load, and
I had nothing to one time there was some money
coming in with a guy like you, and I probably
came by you, but for me, you get a two
hundred grand. You're not thinking about the irs. You're not
thinking about You're thinking about I want that thing, that

(39:56):
toy right now, and I buy it. I want to
buy it. Yeah. And then at the end of the year,
I'm thirty first and the next year you got this Nope,
you old blah blah blah. Wait a minute, they taxes.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Right, yeah, you're like and then the people above you
in the biz, you know, they told you you have
to do this, Like I remember when I first started
in the business, you know, and like what a five
hundred dollars suit and the boss was like, yeah, that's
not going to cut it. Here we're going out right now,
and I don't care if you have the money or not.

(40:32):
You're going and buying an Armani suit and that vehicle
you're driving. No, you need to get either a BMW
or Mercedes period, because you had to look the part,
you know, type of thing you got to represent.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Man, you're working for our firm. You got all them apart.
You're representing us, and where are the big dogs? We
don't need some billbilly driving it Volvo that's twelve years old,
right right.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
You're driving like a fifty thousand or more vehicle, but
you have no furniture in your apartment.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
The same for me, dude. I'm a rock and roll
start one time going back and got leave and accept
living at Stevie Nix's house. Not a pot to piss him.
I mean, not a diamond in my pocket. But I'm
now famous because of accept good and bad. Where I

(41:26):
couldn't get arrested in LA before that, I walked into
all the clubs and like, and I'm all of a
sudden hopvin with you know what it's like. And all
these super rich rock and roll people who I didn't
I don't think they were ever poor and I'm literally pennyless,

(41:49):
living in a studio apartment, regaining my career with Bengalo
or choir. But you know I had the full Mountain
team like you did. I mean, you're you're not dressing
like that, You're not doing this. I mean how Kauflin
is managing me. I'm they've got white sneak heart. Henley
Nick's Irving Azoff signed me to his new label, Giant

(42:11):
Fun Intended. You know, Warner Brothers, Moe Austin's son. The
only reason he got Irving got the deal. This is
how you are on Wall Street, right, who's shaking the
butter and who's bread? And he said, give my son
Kenny a job and I'll give you the two hundred
mil to start a label. Okay, Kenny's a fuck up
who grew up with Moe Austin from Warner Brothers in

(42:33):
w A. He's never had a job in his life.
He's got a job. He's in charge of my A
and R. I'm running around with these maniacs. You know.
It was insane, you know, I mean, they treated us good.
They put us on a salary. They you know, with
job the top studios. We went through the whole thing.

(42:53):
You know, the big shows, the big tour plans, and then.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah, you know Timon and here we are twenty twenty five,
new album coming out. I love it, and the album cover.
I would buy it, just like in the old days
you bought from album covers.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Okay, I'm going to tell that when you air this,
I want Simon zut. Here's a band called Goo Got.
Some of the guys are Russians, some of the guys
are Dutch, some of the guys are Italians. And I
got to say they wanted me to sing on their records,
and COVID destroyed us all. You know what. I used

(43:33):
to do a lot of records to eat eat my family.
But I got to say that some of the sweetest
human beings I've ever met in my life, and what
they're going through. Those Russian guys, they can't even talk
like you and me. They're completely controlled. Yeah, so they go,
they are routed around. I can't really say much because
I don't want to get in trouble. But I was
talking to Simon, the bass player, and I've seen that

(43:55):
he had done their album covers and I gave them
the reference. And when he hears his name and their name.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Good.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
You should see those guys. They get a boner the
size of New Jersey when they hear me saying good
things about it because they're good. They're good at what
they do. Check it out, goot and Simon Zouts is
his name. He's an Italian who did the artwork. I
gave him the idea and he gave me a few roughs.
But he's gonna love that. He said that, because I

(44:23):
think he.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Did totally, because it not only captures today, but it
gives you that nostalgic of the original album. That's why
I said, right from the beginning of is that the
same model?

Speaker 1 (44:37):
You know?

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Just years later? Does it kind of look that way
into the same colors? And you know how it was
in La Listen. He's good to this little record store
in the valley, me and my friends to get our music,
and there was a historic record store clerk there that
every time we walked in and he's like, oh, you
gotta check this band out, and we would buy it

(44:58):
just because he said so, because the album cover looked cool.
That was Brian Slagel, you know, And I told him
like a few years ago, I'm like, dude, that was
the most brilliant marketing plan ever. He was like I
was just a record store clerk, you know, but he
had us all like we'd go in there all the time,
and every band that I ever saw in LA, every

(45:22):
album that I ever bought, was because we would go
in there and he would say here and they were
all his bands, which was what was I thought was
brilliant about it.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
You know, yeah, I love him. He's uh, he's he's
gonna be around for past Hill outlived Keith Ridgards. I mean,
he's been doing it forever and God bless you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Oh yeah, you know, my hat's off to him because
Metal Blade is still around, still big, and like you
have never thought that back in the day, you know,
would you ever imagine that Metal Blade would still will
be around in twenty twenty five, you know, like you would.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
It's It's amazing. It's a testament to the profit. I mean,
you've got a good a good lump between his shoulders.
You know, he knows what he's doing. What works like
shoving it in your face. You got to buy this record,
look at that cover, this band rules. I'll take it.
You know, you go home. But what you're gonna turn on,
but when you listen, you go it is great. He's right,

(46:26):
Oh my god, right, I mean yeah, I wish we
had people like.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
That now, no doubt, no doubt him.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
And we go to we have one guy in hold
of and it's called Media Marks in Germany, and they
pretty much sacrifice all of the CDs, uh in the stores,
the chain of stores.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
But not him.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
I mean he put me in an in store. He's
a fan, he loves rock and roll. He knows everybody does.
These giant posters when you're there, and I remember like
two hundred kids won that Autocrats like the old days,
you know, yeah, the old record stores. Like you said,
tour bus pulls up. You know, there's a crowd of

(47:15):
kids waiting out there. Record day.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Yeah, I missed the good old days. Camping out to
get your tickets. I remember I saw Black Sabbath with
de O. I camped out for my tickets and uh,
this dude, I was like first in line. This dude
comes up to me, Hey, if you give me my ticket,
I'll smoke you out at the show. That's all he
had to say. Like I didn't want any money, right,

(47:39):
They're like, sure you know, and then he had this
like nowie wowie at the show, like he he meant
it because he was sitting right next to me. And
I remember when Dio just first started talking over to
Mike when they first came on, I thought Dio was
God because I was so high off of this stuff.

(47:59):
He smoked me when I was like, holy ship us.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
It's god spelled. It's an Italian literally it means God deal.
So and you are correct, So I mean, uh yeah,
that's the cosmic experience. And I remember my first concert
was Peter Frampton Comes Alive Tour. Jay Diles was the second. Wow,

(48:27):
Peter Wolf take my ass what the front man? I mean?
And Ruby Starr and Great Ghosts from Black Oakcarpon So
was the first back. And I remember being in the
Saint Paul Minnesota Civic Center and the lights are still
on and you can see the curtain and Frisbees were
flying across and beach ball and joints are coming. When

(48:53):
there's like this bluish white haze over the audience, right
and I'm here, I'm home. What is this? What is this?
My mom dropped me off for right, lights go out
in this roar. Remember that and the curtain drops and
there's Ruby in a miniskirt strutting around, and then Jay

(49:14):
Giles comes out and do their live record they did
for twenty years NonStop, and then Peter Frampton comes out
with this you know, oh baby, I love your way.
But it was a hit. And I remember just leaving
that place a different person. Yeah, you know, I it
was mind chan. Then I saw Alice there, Errol Smith

(49:37):
at bazillion times. I mean I'd be right there with
Tyler spitting in my face because in those days, like
you said, five bucks wasn't easy to come back. You know,
I didn't buy a pack of cigarettes or something. I could,
you know, I could go see meet my friends and
see Nugent and all those guys four or five times
a year totally, And it's it's a different animal now.

(50:02):
I mean, working on shows, it's a what do they
say to me? The other day? Guys said, it's not
that the bands are so competitive they're abut to destroy you.
It's that they're only thinking of themselves. Yeah, good point.
It's kind of the same thing. He goes. They're not

(50:23):
out there shit talking you, but they're only thinking about themselves.
There used to be a hang of a camaraderie with
rock and old bands. Yeah, I'm and open with us.
Come out and tour with us. You know we're not
going to charge you five hundred bucks a day and
make you sleep in the van, so you're paying our
road crew with your buy on. You know what bands
would say, Oh I fucking love your band man, come

(50:45):
out and open for us thirty days. Everybody, quit your
day job. We're leaving. You know, get your strip with
girlfriends and throwing a kiddy so we can rent a
vand you know, I'm get a U haul. We're going out.
You know it's different now, you know it is?

Speaker 2 (51:03):
It is? I miss those days. It was like there's
so many stories we could tell, we could tell for
days and days, Like, I don't think it's have the
same stories nowadays. Even when it comes to backstage, you know,
like I'm I do all these festivals and friends of
mine are like, hey, can you get me backstage? I'm like, dude,

(51:24):
it ain't what you think it is, Okay, there's nothing
going on there.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Photo the photo of like what they think backstage is
naked chicks and drugs and what it's really like a
bunch of people starting at their cell phone waiting for
the stage call.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Right, Yeah, not like the good old days when I
would go to Metallica shows and clean the first one
and everybody would go back to their house afterwards and
party all night long. I picked my friends up out
of the bushes outside and wherever they ended up passing out.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
I don't even want to git well, we won't even
go mean, but those were the days. Clark Street, that's
to the whiskey. Is that what it was? Clark Street? Yeah,
walk up the hill. It was madness. People falling out
of windows, people no front door in an apartment, all writers,

(52:15):
all weekenders.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
I mean, I was at that party. I was at
that party where Vince killed Razzle.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Like that was that's ironic. Maybe you know some of
the same people I do.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
We probably do. It's funny. There's some people have mad
I'm like, I don't remember them, but you know what
they say, if you were at the Sunset Strip in
the eighties and you remember it, you weren't really there.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Well, the guy that I know was with them. The
call was made to get more alcohol and blow, and
they were going to a guy's house that I know
that had to blow and he didn't show up. But
the story that I was told was he could hear
the sirens and thought, uh oh, what something's happened. He

(52:59):
didn't bother calling him going out, But I knew a guy,
knew a guy that was waiting for them after they
got more alcohol, and sadly what happened happening. Yeah, but
I know they were down in the beach area right
there in the South Park party that had been going
on for a few days. That's what happened.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
You can only you know, swing the sword at the
dragon so long before you do something stupid.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
And oh, you know, like because they were all so
high all the time. Like what I loved about being
a teenager then is I would go to those parties
and I'd get the overflow of what Montley Crew couldn't handle.
As far as women, I'm like some kid laid hot
chicks because they didn't get laid by Motley.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Crue I got. I went out with their dope dealer
on the Theater Pane tour with this stupid idea in
my head. I'll bring some of my demos and get
them to listen. I'm going to get a record, But
I'm with one of their multiple drug dealers, and they
had an entourage of them, trust me, oh, following the
band around, flying around picking up drugs in different cities

(54:10):
and bringing them to the band. And really, I'm just
sitting in a room with these maniacts so out of it,
and I'd always ask myself, how do they play tomorrow? Yeah? Right,
and it's like and they remember they had armed guards
at the door Vince because it had just happened before that,
so they would open the door and Vince would be

(54:33):
passed out and make it on the floor with a
bottle of tequila. And he had figured out how to
get the hotel staff to get him drugs and alcohol
and looked it through the window on a sheet and
they were like, how is he doing this? You know,
an attict wuld go to the end of the earth
to figure out a way to get eye. But it
was it was debauchery that I've never seen on that

(54:53):
scale that you know. They had a car of lookalikes
leave the venues right and the fans and chicks would
chase that car and then another limo would drive from
under the arena with the real can to the other
hotel in town. And I'd be like this is jeeves

(55:13):
that the kids caught onto that too.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Yeah, yeah, you follow that car.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
We'll follow this car. We'll call you if we got
the right band.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
And the idea that Mustaine got kicked out of Alcoholic
for being an alcoholic really always blew my mind to
this day.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
There's always a sacrificial lamb. Look at Steven at right,
I mean exactly, there's always that guy. I mean, I'm
a recovery drunk. I got seven years this September.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Good for you.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
I've made a bunch of dumb things. I've done some
dumb shit, you know, fighting with bands. That's where I
was fired from Mixed Up. I slapped Peter in the face.
I got drunk. I thought he deserved it, you know,
wrong choice action, but you know, to fire, you know,
especially when you get like we go back to that

(56:00):
brotherhood thing. There's no democracy. Yeah, you know, Adler is
probably the nicest guy I've ever met. In the band.
They throw him out, you know, and I've seen that
in Bloomer Times. Oh yeah, ah, you're disposable. I'm I'm
the reason people are going. And part of the part

(56:22):
of that's true, right, the in fact or you know,
it takes over our guy's mind that. I'll give you
an example of Guns n' Roses. My guitar player Andy
on this record and writer with me. Hudo was the
second act on the first Guns and Roses to Theaters

(56:44):
and Sweet Child of Mind. It not broke out. They
were going to dump the band. Deafen was it's not working,
but Andy said, every night there were just I couldn't
take my eyes off Axl. You know it's so easy
that it opened with and it was just something about him,
blah blah blah blah. And he said, every night all
the bands are being in the dressing room borrowing cigarettes

(57:04):
and they had no money, drinking together party. He said.
The day that Sweet Child of Mind hit, he goes,
I'll never forget it. I'm walking down the hall backstage
and Axel had the two tour managers against the wall
stream and I want my own bus, I want this,
I want that, I want this, or I'm going home. Wow,

(57:26):
And he stopped talking to the to Udo's band. He
stopped talking to Alita, and Slash watched into dressing and
he said, what happened? Man? What I don't know? Man?
This is mine He's lost overnight he sold like ten
million records. Yeah, and they were the MTD Darling, they
were the new thing. But he said, literally in a day,

(57:49):
he was like, I'm leaving the band if I don't
get this, I don't get that. No no, no, no, no
no no, I'm done. And the couple of weeks before
that actual with mom and cigarettes off.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
My friends and drinks. It was so it was well.
Now here you are years later, clean with great new
music coming out at the end of the month, thanking
the end of the year. Here and everybody's got to
check it out, get the new album and support you
because you're a badass and the music is better.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Great, great conversation. I really loved it.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Well, I love.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Yeah, it's your really cool, great great, great interview. I
like this relaxed formata exactly. We come from the same cloth, right,
So Braveboards Records. Reese is on Facebook, He's on Instagram,
so you can find me. I love to talk to
the fans. Thank you for everything. That's all I can say.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Thank you for giving us great talent and music all
these years and continuing to do so here in twenty
twenty five, and thanks for being on the adventures of
pipe man.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
I'm still riding the rhino with the pipe man. Let's
go back to the strip. Let's go back in time.
We should do a movie, right.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
I know, right, imagine back to the Sunset Strip.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
I mean with with the real stuff that happened, not
some kids trying to make it. It went down. Then
you can graduate from Wall Street. Well, all your friends
are still in Frisco, you know, hanging out in the
rainy streets, trying to get in at okay, the Paradise
loungeer wherever they were.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Playing only I don't even remember.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
And you're in Wall Street being suited, you know, and
fitted for a five thousand dollars money. You know exactly,
here's the piece, here's you new seven to fifty. But
next year and you got up grade.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Okay, come on, exactly exactly save debauchery, just different animal.
People don't even realize there's not there's a fine line
between the metal heads and the suits. All right, well
you rock on, my brother, and look forward to it again,
and anything you need you let me know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
We know what we should do. I want to make
this clear. The album is sixteen songs we did. Act
one is eight songs. Act two his songs. I had
about twenty four to twenty five songs, and Giles Lavery
and I whittled it down with brand Ball down to
the sixteen tracks. What I'd like to do maybe when
the album's out, if you're interested, we can do a

(01:00:31):
chat about act one. Yeah, absolutely, maybe, like because you
know how it is, you know what you all have
promoted for a record and everybody says, buy the album,
blah blah blah. The album comes out crickets for six
weeks prior, everybody's buzzing, you know, Let's talk about it
after it's out for a month or so.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Let's do it, you know, and be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
I really like this or I don't like that. Let's
talk about this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
I'm down for it. Let's make it happen. Tell Michael
to make it happen.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
I'm on it, brother, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Rill.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Then until then, have a good night or a good
day wherever you are. I'll go to bed and we
will see each other once again.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
You got it, brother.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Patement. I'm
w for CUI Radio.

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