Derek Davis of Babylon A.D. Chats About When The World Stops

BABYLON A.D. is excited to release the title track and the first single and video from their new album WHEN THE WORLD STOPS. The new album will be released on CD September 1st via Kivel Records. The digital release of the album follows a month later.

Derek Davis, Babylon A.D. lead singer had this to say about the first single, "“When The World Stops” is an apocalyptic love story about two young lovers facing the end of the world. The lyrics are very visual so a listener can really follow the story and the video we have just released conveys the imagery beautifully. I love writing lyrics that have a message and a theme, sort of like a mini movie, and this track I believe really captures the visual I was trying to capture. This song is a nice hard hitting up-tempo kick ass tune. A 100 percent Babylon A.D. track that I’m sure our the fans will love."  
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Listen to the First Single: https://smarturl.it/whentheworldstops  

Watch the Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlyu7PSfu1w  

Presave the new album on Spotify:  https://open.spotify.com/prerelease/0ma4NMKMqxFsCiu5tOUsjO

BABYLON A.D.
Derek Davis - Vox - Guitar - Keyboards
Ron Freschi - Guitar - B Vox
John Mathews - Guitar
Dylan Soto - Drums - Acoustic Guitar on “The Damage Is Done”
Craig Pepe - Bass - B Vox
Special guest: Julie Pacheco - Piano on “Love Is Cruel”  

Track Listing:

1. When The World Stops 3:25
2. Come On Let’s Roll 4:36
3. Don’t Ask Qustions 5:22
4. Love Is Cruel 6:49
5. Toxic Baby 4:16
6. I Don’t Beleive In You 5:15
7. Power Of Music 4:21
8. Torn 3:33
9. The Damage Is Done 4:43
10. Oh Suki 4:01
11. Sadness Madness 5:11  

Produced, Mixed, Engineered by Derek Davis @ The BADMOFO’s Recording Studio, Pleasanton, CA.
Drums recorded by: Brad Barth @ Audio Voyage Livermore CA.  

ALL SONGS WRITTEN BY: Derek Davis, Ron Freschi, John Mathews, Dylan Soto, Craig Pepe. © Perfect Pen Publishing, Matrix Media, Jonestown Pub ASCAP.  

Management: Malla Entertainment  

Released by Kivel Records/Apocalypse Records  

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• 1  Sticker
• 1  Button  

 Babylon A.D. is excited to bring the WHEN THE WORLD STOPS tour to Europe this September.

2025 Babylon A.D. Tour Dates:  
Aug 8 - Whisky A Go Go - West Hollywood, CA
Aug 15 - Wild Goose Saloon - Parker, CO
Aug 16 - Liquid Joe's - Salt Lake City, UT
Sept 4 - Underworld - London, United Kingdom
Sept 5 - Suburbia - Southampton, England
Sept 6 - Hard Rock Hell Sleaze Festival - O2 Academy - Leicester, England
Sept 7 - Eleven - Stoke-on-Trent, England
Sept 10 - Bannerman's - Edinburgh, Midlothian
Sept 11 - Yardbirds Rock Club - Grimsby, United Kingdom
Sept 12 - Nightrain - Bradford, United Kingdom
Sept 13 - Vinyl Tap Preston - Preston, England
Sept 14 - The Patriot - Crumlin, Wales
Sept 16 - The Victoria - Swindon, United Kingdom
Sept 20 - Piraeus Club Academy - Athina, Greece

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Episode Transcript

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it's amazing you're still around. But that's because they're great musicians.
So let's welcome to the show. Derek from Babylon A

(01:12):
d how are you?

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, great man, great to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
I'm glad I didn't screw up your band name because
I've had like I don't know, I can't speak for
some reason today and like ask the interview, I did
I know the band name? It is just like bla
blah blah blah blah. So this time it came out easily.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
You've been called baby long before, so.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
I could see that too. Like that is my worst nightmare.
Like if I really don't know how to pronounce a
band name, I will ask them before I start to
interview to tell me, okay, or I'll look it up
and hear them in an interview say the band name themselves.
Or like when I go over and I do festivals

(01:55):
all over to US, UK and Europe, and I always
let the tell me who they are, it's then good idea.
Can't screw it up because to me, I don't know,
I would be insulted if you were doing an interview
and you mispronounced my band name, Like, come on, do

(02:16):
your research, dude. But you know, yeah, I mean it's
pretty cool that here we are, twenty twenty five and
you got new music. You know, you've been around most
of my life in the rock and metal community too,
so you know, I always love when bands have been

(02:39):
around this long and still can put out new music.
Like I'm in awe of how doing this after all
these years, that you can still be creative enough to
make new music. Of course there's a plan to talk
about nowadays. But and like your newest title song, I mean, geez,

(02:59):
I feel like we're living it.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, I kind of think that's why I wrote that
song when the World Stops is because I kind of
feel the same way.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Right right, I feel like the world is spinning so
fast and we're all going to fall off and it's gonna.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Stop absolutely at some point. Well that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
And I think you know all of our lives, me
and you, we've heard about the apocalypse, right. But what
scares me is everything from back in the eighties that
we were talking about is all coming true now. All
the sci fi movies from that is coming true now. Yeah,
please no apocalypse while I'm still on this planet.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Funny, me and my bass player were talking about that
the other day when we were in Denver. We played
Australi in Denver and we were sitting in the hotel room.
We started talking about it, like did it ever notice
that everything we seen when were your little kids is
like kind of happened.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Now, right, I mean, think about it. Okay, So on
Star Trek when they had the flip phones, those are
outdated now, Like Matt, I didn't think you'd have flip phones.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Is missing as a beam me up Scottie part. When
they get that down, then we know it's.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Like whoa I know? Right? And then okay, so they
would talk on video and here we are, like this
was just sci fi. What we're doing right now was
sci fi in the eighties.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
I know, it's nuts, man, it is.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
That's why I think it's hilarious that you take bands
that wrote music in the eighties and you could substitute,
substitute places, substitute names, and it could be the same
song yeah today, which that kind of that kind of
blows my mind and is terrible. Other ins it's like

(04:47):
you you would think we would be past all that
stuff that we were writing about in the eighties. So
you also have you know, as of recent years new
members to the band, do you think that's put some
fresh life into the band too?

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely. When we got Dylan the drummer, he's
twenty four years old now, we got him when he
was twenty one, so he's been with us for three
years now. He really it's really funny because this kid
is he's twenty four now, but he is an encyclopedia
of hard rock, of metal, of rock and roll.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Love it.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
It's so weird, man. I mean, you could talk to
him about Judas Priest or Aerosmith or a CDC or
easy Top. He'll know all the guys' names, he'll know
all their hit songs and everything.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
So and so there's a lot of kids in his
generation that are just rediscovering rock and roll music, you know,
hard rock. You know it's so it's pretty interesting. And
then Craig Pepe pretty well known bass player on the
Los Angeles area. So when they joined the band, it
was very it was just seamless. The first time we
auditioned those guys, they came together as a package and

(05:59):
we played eight BACKI D songs and it was they
played them perfect, just like We're wow stage the next day.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
See. I love that about nowadays because I was just
talking about this before I go and I do coverage
at music festivals all over the US, UK and Europe,
and one thing I'm in awe of is how many
generations of people are at these festivals. Like I know
in our time, I wouldn't go see a band of

(06:26):
sixty year old for a metal show.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
It across your mind. You just said all those little farts,
so I'm not gonna go check them out. I know.
It's strange because I've noticed that as our shows go
on and the more shows we play, and I think
with the with the last album Rome Wasn't Built in
a day and the little bit of fire we got
so far into this album, it's weird. Man playing on
stage and looking out of the crowd, You're like, there's

(06:52):
about thirty percent of the people here that are under
twenty five, right, and even a couple of years ago
you maybe had five percent of the people. It's like
there's some kind of resurgence man, you know, totally.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
And it's like they're cool with being with the old dudes, you.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Know, like like like I said, my drummer's twenty four,
he hangs out with us. I mean he thinks just
like we do, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
I love that. That's amazing, you know, And it just
shows how rock hard rock and metal it stood the
test of time. People said it was dying, but it stood. Listen.
I think metal's bigger now than it ever was, to
be honest.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, it's like a dinosaur that just is not going
to get go extinct.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
You know, right, totally, and even some of these fans,
like you mentioned priests, I mean, to put out new
music and for Halford to still have the voice he does, yeah,
oh my god. Yeah, And I just saw scorpions at
health Vest Priests too. But scorpions, man, they kicked ass
like they were unbelievable, you know, And that's the cool.

(07:59):
And look at Ozzie. Okay, like that final show, I
think he sounded the best he sounded in years.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, that was pretty awesome. Man. It was a great
tribute and that was pretty amazing.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
You know, it gave me chills. But I also I
knew what was gonna happen after that because I've said
for years, like Sharon kept trying againhim to retire him,
like if he retires, he's just gonna die, because you know,
he loves the stage so much.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, so you know, it was like it sucked. It
was a shock, But wasn't that much of a shock
to me when it happened afterwards, because it was like
that was his last hurrah.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah. I've seen an interview with Pierce Morgan, and I
guess Pierce Morgan is a good friend of Sharon's and Auzie's,
and he talked to Ozzie when he was in the hospital,
I guess maybe two weeks before something. He went in
for something minor and Ozzie just said, this is it, mate,
you know, this is my last show. And after that,
I'm that's what he told Pierce, and Pierce went okay,

(09:02):
and then sure.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Enough, Wow, yeah, what a shame. But man, talk about
a mentor to everybody that you could be who Ozzie
was and still last all this time and still be
the hero to people.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
They was like the craziness that guy lived.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Geez, Like, I don't think I would have survived everything
he went through. And I was in the Sunset strip
on the in the eighties and I don't think I
could handle a lifetime of that.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Well, I think it would probably due to Sharon, right,
Sharon's keeping him on the up and up and him
having kids and having some kind of like normalacy. If
he wouldn't have had her as his anchor, yeah, I
would have went on the deep end a long time
ago with no one to help him.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
You know that. That's a good point, because she was
like the Evening now And I've heard stories about like
Sharon just like him doing something stupid. She just would
beat the shit out of him, you know, like, oh uh,
put him right in his place. But yeah, I mean, listen,

(10:12):
the hard thing is too and I'm sure you feel
the same way, or else you wouldn't be doing anymore.
You gotta be having fun when you're doing this for
a living, because you're in the wrong business if you're
not having fun.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
That's the only reason I'm still doing it, and I
know everybody in the band too. It's the only reason
that we keep doing it because I think it would
be like, you know, you're Michael Jordan, or you know,
you're retired, but you're sixty years old or you're fifty
five years old. You can't play as fast as you did,
maybe you know, but you're still really good. You're still
having fun, so you're not gonna quit playing basketball.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, exactly, exactly. And I'll tell you what. Seeing the video,
you guys looked like we were still in the eighties
and nineties. Like just the energy of you guys playing
in that video.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, it's just yeah, we still have that energy on stage.
Everybody always says, how the hell do you guys do that? Man?
We still kick ass when we when we when we
hit the stage, it's kind of like we go out
like if we're gonna go in a fistfight and we're
not gonna lose, right, we all look at it like
let's go kick some.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Ass, no doubt. And I think a lot of people
don't realize too when when you have this severe passion
for what you do like you do, it's like you
go into the zone when you get up on the
stage and there's this adrenaline rush that doesn't matter anything else.
You're just living in that moment right then and there.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
That's true, man, And it's a it's a great our
hour and twenty minutes. Sometimes you know, it's it's just
great man. Uh. You know, it's work getting to the show,
doing your soundcheck, going back to the hotels and things,
and getting ready for the show. But when you hit
that stage, man, the rush and the adrenaline that you

(12:00):
and especially when you see people singing the lyrics that
you might have wrote three years ago and you're betting
something and they're singing right back to you and it
means something to you. And you get off stage and
then you start talking to your fans and they're like, man,
this you know this song Desperate saved my life when
I was twenty because of this, And you're like, wow,
the stories.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
That you hear are like what a feeling? Right? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:22):
But then I think to myself. You know, for me
growing up would be like me meeting Robert Plan or
someone saying, oh my god, you don't know what this
one song did for me. You know, it'd be the
same thing, you.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Know exactly, you know, And it's like and those first
shows you went to, like you know, I went to concerts,
but my first club show ever, I was just talking
about this earlier was at the Roxy Motley Crue before
they had an album, and I remember, okay, so they
were trying to light the whole Roxy on fire to
bring satan and I was like, man, I'm never going

(12:59):
to a real or it ever again.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah. That's funny because when right when Motley Cruze released
their very first album, they must have been out maybe
a week or two, they opened for a band that
I was in in the in the Keystone, Berkeley at
the at the Keystone, and it was really weird because
I guess Tommy was probably fourteen years old, fifteen years
old in or something, and I was like, who the

(13:23):
hell these guys, how'd they get an album? And then
they were telling me all about it. Yeah, man, we
put together this album and we were playing pool with
them everything. Never ever dreamed that they were gonna be
didn't even didn't even dawn on us that they were
going to become a big band.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Right, And they were. I gotta say in LA they
were the epitome of the best promoters of their band anywhere.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Like that's what That's what I got. Yeah, that they
just knew how to promote. Man.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Oh they there were flyers for them on every telephone
pole in Los Angeles, you know, like, no matter where
you look, there they were.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
When you could do that, and then they pass that
ordinance about ninety one or ninety or something like that
and screwed everything up.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, that's how you found out about bands, Like I
found out about bands by seeing those posters and going, Oh,
that band looks cool. I'm going to their show or
I'm buying their album. You know, I miss those days.
That's one thing I do miss is like these kids nowadays,
with Spotify and stuff like that, they have this track
track track mentality. They don't get the whole benefit of it,

(14:29):
you know.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, they don't get the same thing. I know exactly
what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, it's like you didn't buy an out first of all,
you bought an album with you had no money, and
you scraped up the money to buy an album and
you didn't know what it sounded like because you couldn't
hear it. And most of the stuff I listened to
wasn't getting played on the radio, and so you would
listen to it over and over and over again. Just

(14:54):
sit there. It was a whole experience, you know. I
would sit there on my balcony with the headphones on
the outl bum reading all the lyrics. Like my kids
will say, how do you know the lyrics to like
every single song? And that's why, because I sat there.
It was like class I was studying, you know.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
And just look at the album. You're looking at Rainbow
and all you're doing is look at it. Every time
you put it on. You just keep looking at the
damn thing. Wonder what these guys really look like, you know,
right right TV back then, so you're like, what the
hell and you look at it Led Zeppelin album and
there's no pictures of these guys. What the hell they
look like?

Speaker 1 (15:31):
You know? Or how about like the Beatles with that
brilliant marketing of Paul McCartney being dead and you had
to find all the clues on all the albums.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
I know that those guys were their management was marketing geniuses.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Oh one, you know, And I think that's something we
need to bring back. Bands like that, Bands like Zeppelin,
bands like the Beatles. I mean, look at Ozzy. It's
funny we're talking about Ozzy. Who would ever think that
there would be no Aussie if there were no beat
Like he said it over and over and over again. Now, yeah,
the Beatles are the reason he does what he doesn't.

(16:06):
You wouldn't even think of that or associate that either,
you know. But I mean, yeah, think of Helter Skelter.
It's like one of the first heavy metal songs. Besides
Sabbath and other stuff, but it's like one of the
first heavy metal songs I think of, you know.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
I think, yeah, you're exactly right between led Zeppelin and
and Black Sabbath. It's like, man, they had they just
had that heavy song. I mean, we used to call
it heavy metal. You know, people don't really call it
heavy metal anymore. But no, I think it's been as
heavy metal.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
You know, it totally is. Now this will be funny
for you, but first of all, if you google led Zeppelin,
it shows their genre as heavy metal. But here's something wild.
I had one of my interviews go viral because it
was Carmina piece and he and this wasn't that long

(16:59):
ago at mug and he yeah, he said he didn't
think Black Sabbath was heavy metal, that Metallica was the
first heavy metal band. That's why he said. And all
the uproar for saying that.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
You know, it's kind of strange that he would say that,
because even before Metallica, the word heavy metal was already
out there in the seventies, before Metallica became popular.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Way before I was at Metallica's first show ever, and
before that I was listening Maiden and Priest and Black Sabbath.
In seventh grade, I remember going. I had this new
friend and I went to his house and he pulls
out this album that was black with red writing and
white lightning bolts for the s's We sold our souls

(17:48):
for rock and roll, And that was that was really
for me. I was like, man, I'm sold. I'm a
metal head forever now, and here I am and here
you are, and you guys are going on tour and
you're going to Europe. So one thing I've noticed is,

(18:09):
like I've said this a couple of times today. The
bands that I thought during the nineties and two thousands,
I'm like, oh, I wish that band was still around.
I found out when I went to Europe that they
were still around. They were just touring in Europe all
this time because those people love love this music still.

(18:31):
They don't need the newest stuff, you know, they just
love it all.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
What's kind of weird when you go over there is
like you jump back into a time warp, right, But
it's cool. It's a cool time warp. You know, it's
totally cool.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Like I was saying before, I have gone on several
road trips and you turn on the radio and it's
like you're turning on the radio in the eighties, you know,
that's what you hear on there. And you know we're
talking about like I was just that bloodstock in the
UK and ten thirty in the morning you were bands
playing that Man the crowd that they had at ten

(19:05):
thirty in the morning for a nobody band, you would
think they were the headliner.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, absolutely, And it's crazy. That's what's good about it though.
I mean that still gives us places to play in
a little bit of hope, you know. I just wish
America was more like that. You know, they're just scouted
out clubs around and no matter what, there's just not that.
I mean, everybody over there has got a jacket like
this or something with all their bands on it. I
mean it's like a you're in a gang. Well, this

(19:33):
is my gang, this is my game, this my you know,
my band, this is my my gang for my band.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
And they look about it and it gets crazy.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
What's funny about that is I started recently. I had
my battle vest from the eighties scene in my closet
for many years. My grandson was wearing it for a while,
and I decided to bring it on interviews when I
go to festivals. And it's not like the battle vest
today where you can buy. I am pre made, yeah right.
Mine has some blood and sweatd literally, it has blood

(20:05):
on it from stage dives and rocking, yeah, and drawings.
I drew on it like I was. I was interviewing
at Hellfest. I was interviewing Geene Hoagland and I pulled
out my battle vest and I showed them I have
dark Angel like the logo's perfectly drawn on my battle
vest and he's like crap, you know, and it's like

(20:27):
just so much history there. That's what it is. It's
it's history. I can't even wear the thing anymore because
you know, I'm not big now, but I was certainly
really small as a teenager. You know.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
I've got my old stage clothes too. Man. I could
never squeeze into it. It maybe though I'm still you know,
I'm not heavyweight or I got to overweight. It's just
I'm like, man, I was like one hundred and thirty
five pounds held it.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
You know, right exactly. But it's like you put your
heart and soul into Ease battle vests and instead of
just buying it, it was like, and you said the
gang thing. So it's funny. So they didn't even have
a Slayer patch when I started his vest. So I

(21:12):
got vinyl and not vinyl felt writing letters and it
spells at the top Slayer and it's funny. I used
to walk around LA and people thought I was a
gang banger and that was my gang name.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
You had a new new Hell's Angel Club.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
I know, right, Oh that's so funny. And then Winston
from Parkway Drive, I have to jump in the fire
Metallica back patch on it. He's like, holy shit, like
where did that logo come from? I've never seen that
Metallica logo, you know, and so but it is still
cool to see kids nowadays still doing that, still keeping

(21:57):
metal and rock and a hard rock alive and bigger
than ever, I think, you know, like when would you
have There was only one time when I was a
teenager that I went to a show that had as
many people as you see festivals now, and that was
the nineteen eighty three US Festival. But but other than that,
you know, there was a small group of us, you

(22:19):
know that used to go and it's it is great
to see that bands like you in some ways I think,
are playing to bigger crowds now than back then.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
It kind of feels like we just left off, you know.
It's just kind of strange. It's just like we never
missed a beaty with though those many years in between
when we missed mini beats.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Right.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, it's you know, I don't know if i'd call
it a resurgence or what.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
But maybe it's people waking up and like they went
on some kind of dream vacation with grunge and hair
metal for a while, and then they came back right right.
So what else you got going on down the pipe
that you want listeners to know about? You got the
new album.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
I mean, we're here with the new album when the
world stops, and that drops on September first, the CD
where right now you can get pre orders and they
are starting to get out. I I just seen a
post from a girl saying I just got my pre order,
so she's probably one of the first persons to get one.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, And then we have the digital releases coming out
one month after that, and then following that one month
we have the album coming out, so we're kind of
spacing it out just a little bit.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
I like that before, and the record company suggested and
we said, okay, yeah, that sounds like a pretty cool idea,
a little bit different, So we keep having a little
bit drip drip drip, so this hasn't all come back
and come out in one day and then people start
forgetting that getting about it like three months later. You know,
this way, we'll still have a little bit of a
some to talk about. You know, after our tour, you know,

(23:58):
we're going to be over the UK for a few
weeks and then we're gonna play Greece nice. Well, yeah,
so it's pretty exciting time for babylon Ad right now.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
You know, I love hearing that. Man. That's but that's
because you guys are true musicians, true artists, and that's
what we need. The resurgence of that, I think we're getting.
You know, even there's some younger bands now that are
bringing back that old school vibe.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah. You see a lot of bands that they look
like they could have been right out of nineteen eighty eight,
right exactly, Middle Edged magazine. You're like, wow, that's kind
of weird. These guys must be thirty years.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Old, right. Yeah. So it's good because I think those
were the times that you had the true musicianship, and
I think we might have gotten away from that for
a while. I always like to say that some of
the metal nowadays, it's like they use this formula, like
an algebraic equation to make metal, and I like that

(24:58):
where we have bands that are geting away from that
and doing it the old school way because it.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Doesn't take over, you know, in the next couple of
years or whatever. Because what happened to us, it's happened
a few other bands. I found out too. But last week,
all of a sudden, a fan, a couple of fans
contacted us and said, hey, man, I see you guys
got a new single out. Is this new single off
your new album? And we're like, what the hell are
they talking about? I thought they were talking about when
the World Stops as a single, right, So I pressed

(25:26):
the button and sure enough, there's a song called fuel
the Fire by Babylon A d and the Vinnie Vincent Invasion.
And it wasn't or it was not Bennie Vincent. It
was all AI made up by something. Oh yeah, we
found who the guy was. We researched him and found
out who it was. We told him, you better take
that down unless you're gonna get a you know, lossuit
up your ass. And uh, we cleared that up and

(25:47):
now it's gone. But still, I mean, I can imagine
and from what I gather, this same guy has done
it to I think it was Slaughter, three or four
other bands and a bunch of country artists. So this
guy making AI songs, putting him out there and if
nobody catches him, he collects the money.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, and you know what, it's bullshit because anybody you know,
it's like that meme they have I don't know if
you've ever seen it of the rock star in the
eighties and the rock Star now, and it's got a
picture above of this dude lying on the ground with
his guitar in one hand and Jack Daniels and the other,

(26:28):
and then the one below the one now he's sitting
in a chair as computer with the guitar on his
lap while he's typing on the computer.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah, making this song up. I want to. I want
the guy that, you know, I want the singer to
sound like this. I want that. Recently, I was approached
by a company to use my voice in AI Wow,
to be the singer I guess for all this AI
project shit, and I said, no way. Many screw might
have to be broke to even think that way. You know.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah, it's terrible because you know, you can't even tell
the difference sometimes, you know, yeah I can't.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
I mean I heard it right off the bat, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yeah, you can. Of course, you could put that average
listener out there.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
The average listener can't.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
No and listen. It's a lot of work to be
an artist. I think people don't realize how much work
it is. They just look at Oh you're living the
dream life blah blah blah. But they don't see everything
that goes into it, and it shouldn't be as easy
as pushing a button. I don't.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
I mean, I'm in the recording study right now. This
is where I live basically, and here creating ideas I
don't get on my Macintosh and just an hour later
have a song and I tell all my friends, look
at this song I wrote when I really didn't do
nothing but just tell the AI ate a song.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
You know, totally, it's just cheating.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Man. One of my friends did a couple songs like that,
and he was like, what do you think? Man? I
was man, I, I reamed his ass.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
I was like, good for you.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
He's a songwriter too, And I was like, you're really.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Gonna do that as a song?

Speaker 2 (28:01):
I said, what are you saying? Like grandma's eighty two
years old? She could just write her new hit song
now and put a meme on there that looked like
she's fourteen years old. Wow, Come on, man, where's your integrity?

Speaker 1 (28:11):
You know, no doubt, especially if you're an artist, you
should totally have integrity. Like, to me, the only people
that would be doing that is people that don't know
how to play an instrument and don't know how to
write songs, and you know, not people that like that's
their passion.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, exactly, And if they're gonna do it, let everybody know, Hey,
AI wrote this, and this is not you know whatever,
I own it maybe, but this is just my idea
that I put into a computer somehow. You know, they
should have a some kind of clause when you listen
to the song it's this is AI generated whatever.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Well, you know, we did say in the eighties that
the machines were going to take over, and that's what's
scary right now.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, I mean, if this AI thing keeps going like
it is, probably within five years, nobody's even gonna probably
people not even get a care because they just grew
up like that and just yeah, information just kept coming
like that where where they won't care, you know, just
as long as they like the.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Song, which is a shame, because art saves lives, I.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Believe, yep. The correct lyrics and the correct melody saves
a lot of people's lives.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
And especially the musicians and like people talk about how
they relate to your songs. But I think a lot
of musicians, artists, songwriters. Man, it saves their life first,
and that's why it saves our life absolutely.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Man.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yeah, well, I'm glad that you're here doing real music.
You know, what a concept and you know, being a
real musician, because to me, real musicians they figured things
out and make mistakes along the way and experiment. And

(29:56):
I remember I was playing guitar when I was a teenager.
My Dad's like, you suck, you should give that up.
And really, what I was doing is I was just experimenting.
I wanted to see what sounds I could make out
of the guitar. I didn't want I didn't give a
shit about the scales. I wanted to hear what I
could make that guitar do. Yeah, so that's cool, And

(30:17):
everybody should check out the new album. Get it, pre
order it now if you don't get it on the first,
and check out your tour dates and everything else. And man,
I'll tell you what I like the new music, and
I know they will too. So thank you for still

(30:38):
being a great musician and a true artist. And thanks
for being on the Adventures of Payment. Yeah. Thanks for
having me, man, Thank you, thank you for listening to
the Adventures of Patemn.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
I'm w for Cui Radio