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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hi, you have done to censure.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Wow for you your.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures of
Pipe Man, W four CY Radio. And this is Positively Pipeman,
a segment of the Adventures of pipe Man here on
W four CY Radio. And it's Thanksgiving week, so this
is the Thanksgiving Positively pipe Man. With We have a
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couple of segments today. We have our powerful Business Strategy
segment coming at the end of the show, but we
have with this in the beginning of the show, the
Pet Health Guru, and well we're going to talk about
well Thanksgiving, of course we're going to talk about holiday foods.
So with no further ado, the Guru of all gurus,
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Bill Pachaki, the Pet Health Guru, How are you?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I'm doing pretty well. How are you doing? Are you ready?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I listen? Nowadays, Thanksgiving is not my favorite holiday because
I have to either cheat or eat nothing because I
eat so healthy and there is nothing healthy to eat
a Thanksgiving, especially things I love the most. Okay, so
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stuffing I love not good for me. Cranberry sauce, real
cranberry sauce with the whole cranberries, as long as it's
not made with sugar. It's for me. Otherwise not for me,
because a lot if you buy a canned crap has
so much sugar, you might as well not be eating cranberries,
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green bean casts roll well, the green beans they're good.
That's about it. And then mashed potatoes also not good
for me. It used to be one of my favorite
things to eat, believe it or not, though I prefer
the fake ones, Okay, it's weird. I always preferred what
where they call potato buds or what I forget the
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name of it, the boxed mashed potatoes that were flakes. Okay,
I like those better than actual. I don't like mashed
potatoes if it still has pieces of potato. If you're
gonna make real mashed potatoes, you better mash that crap
down till it's not clumpy. People like clumpy. They're gonna
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hate me for saying that I don't like clumpy mashed potatoes.
I don't like sweet potatoes. So sweet potatoes had a question,
although sometimes when I get them at Bullet, they're not bad. Okay,
so it's weird, like I think. Sometimes it depends on
the snarrow, but I can only take so many. And
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then of course that makes sweetptaaloe pie had a question
because I don't like it and it's not good for
me either one of them. Okay, the turkey is good
for me. Actually. You know, our friend doctor Jafari, she
when she was reversing my diabetes and I was on
like total vegan, she said it was okay to eat
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turkey breasts because the trip to Fane's actually good for you.
See I thought the opposite, because the trip to Fane's
what makes you tired, but it's actually good for you.
So there's that. And then my favorite part of Thanksgiving,
because it's my favorite part of everything, is the desserts.
And there's way too money implement Thanksgiving that I would
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probably die. Okay, I love pumpkin pie. I love pecan pie.
Those are probably my two favorite Thanksgiving desserts. You know,
I wouldn't say they're my two favorite desserts, they're my
two favorite Thanksgiving desserts. And so, and then there's the
other thing. It's like when you have dogs, they're gonna
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end up eating all this crap too because nobody's paying attention.
They're eating, they're getting drunk, and the dogs are having
a field day with all the food dropping and the
tables not that aren't attended to and all that. So, yeah,
there's a lot wrong for humans and animals absolutely, So
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what's your take.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Well, you know, I'm what.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
We normally, you know, uses as ingredients for that Thanksgiving
dinner is exactly what you described. Are those Are any
of those acceptable for your dog, for your pet? Probably
the last one just the turkey. Yeah, the turkey, you
have to be very very careful, you know, if it's
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you know, the supermarket brands and that sort of thing.
Those are loaded with all kinds of sugar and salts
and and you know, basically, you know, even if they're
naturally raised, but generally most of them marks again, GMO corn,
GMO soy, that's in the you know, that stuff is
in the meat itself. I've just formed it. So that's
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not normally good unless you're getting a good, fresh killed,
you know, naturally raised turkey.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
A little bit of that would be fine.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
And I was just watching them, by the way, sorry
to interrupt, I was what's watching a TikTok the other
day of somebody who has like a pet turkey that
the turkey she was talking to turkey turkey was talking
about the turkey was she was feeding the turkey food,
Like they went to McDonald's and we're both eating the food,
and uh, I just think to myself, like, I could
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never eat that for dinner. I'd feel like what's his
name from Silence of the Lambs?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, But you know, the other items are basically inappropriate
for an animal anyway. I mean, obviously nothing is you know,
contains usually bread, you know, some sort of bread, you know,
crumbs or cube breads, you know, something of that nature.
That's absolutely horrible for both people and pets. The other
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items you mentioned, of course, everything else is you know,
the only other item that somebody might question me on
would be the sweet potatoes.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
But then again, you know, a small amount.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Of that would probably be okay, but as far as
you know part of the meal, that's no good.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Okay. So I have to stop you there again because
I've literally been in the grocery store where now they're
starting to do the things like you started years ago,
and like you go into Whole Foods and they'll have
the raw food for pets type of scenario, and I've
seen packaging that includes sweet potato in it. So what's
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your take on that?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Well, the sweet potatoes. Basically they use them for two things.
One of course is the sugar content. You know, our
dogs and cats can get hooked on sugars just as
easily as we can, right because there's the same problems.
You know, it does cause diabetes. We've seen such an
uptick in diabetes and dogs and cats that it's just insane.
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And of course the other thing was all those sugary
foods they actually feed cancers.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
And that's another thing.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, you know, if your dog has got lumps and bumps,
they shouldn't have anything carbohydrate basically, so that narrows it
down to the turkey.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
And like I say, if it's naturally.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Raised, you know, you do have to pay attention to
the amount of seasoning that you would put on it,
but generally with a natural bird you wouldn't need very
much as far because it's got real flavor. The reason
enhance all this stuff is to make it taste better
for you. And of course also it's done by injection,
you know, liquid forms of salt, water and flavor additive
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to it, and it adds as much as five or
six percent under the weight of that turkey. When they're
selling it to you, because after they're slaughtered of obviously,
and it's just to get a few more pennies of
your dollar.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah, and you know you made me think of years ago.
I think the April's favorite food of yours was the
ground turkey.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, it's one of it's one of the cleanest meats
out there.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
It does have a little bit different profile than does
beef or even chicken. Turkey does contain vitamon c small amount,
which is fine, and that's also essential for them as well.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
On the other side of that, too.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Is when we get down to that cleaned carcass, basically
down to the bones, most of those bones will be
okay for your animal to eat. I stay away from
the leg bones because they're hollow, and it's not because
they'll rip up their stomach and their intestine. It's basically
those hollow bones. When they bite into it, they get
stuck on their teeth and then you have to prime
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top of it. But you know, slow roasted turkey bones,
I don't have very much of a problem with it.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
You have to use your own discretion.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
If your dog is on a natural diet, a raw
food diet, especially those few would won't make any difference.
If they're on kibble, they'll probably try to gorge themselves
on it because they're laughing on so many nutrients. And
that's where it becomes a problem. If they do get
too much, you'll just have a little bit extra to
clean up. You'll get a vomit, you'll get some diarrhea,
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loose stools, that sort of thing. That's all natural.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Essential to rush through the emergency room and spend a
ton of money because the body is just cleansing out
what it does need, and you would get into some
of the other things. It's the same thing. The body's
going to purge the especially if they're healthy. You eating
healthy and clean, Me eating healthy and clean. I can't
go to most restaurants anymore because of all the additives.
And you know, it's's one of those things that you know,
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you finish, that was a great dinner. Okay, we're leaving
the restaurant. It takes me ten minutes to get home.
You will use the bathroom here or use it well,
I make it home, you know, because the body's gonna
start purging right away. And you know that's just the
fact of life. I mean, the body does what it's
supposed to do.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, it doesn't. And you know the thing is too,
it is like what you're talking about with the bones.
I just have a question, like, why my whole life
if I heard, oh, don't give your dog a chicken bone,
they'll die. Now is the turkey bone different?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Well, actually all the bones are okay, it doesn't matter
what chicken, turkey, poor, beef bones, all of those. In fact,
eating bones like that helps clean their teeth, which is
important part of that as well. Raw bones are obviously
a lot better. But again, if you have to, you know,
just just be just use your discretion and make sure you're.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Just you know, not overdoing it.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
You know, a couple and of course you can storm
a refrigerator, so a couple you know, pieces or.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Part of a meal is fine.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
And but on the other side of that too, one
of the other things that we have to take a
good look at is all the other stuff that's going
on in the household.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
You know, the kids.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Screaming and running around, and you know, the poor pet
is stressed out to the max. You know, you get
you know, family members that are I'm going to put
this very loosely discussing politics, you know, without killing each
other that you know, that's stressing.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Even happened today, by the way, Yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
But that's but that's all stresses the animal as well.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
And even if they don't get into the food, you
may still see that vomit of the diarrhea in the
next twenty four to forty hotwards because they're just stressed
out sets their stomach as well. And you know this
is you know, part of that whole holidays season thing.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
That we're stressed out.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
They're stressed out, and as we discussed on a previous show,
you know, it's not flu season.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It's poisonous season.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
No doubt. And you know they are stressed out because
there's ten million people coming over the house and a
lot of pets. They get stressed out when you have
like dinner parties and like people over, like And I
don't blame them because I don't want people over either.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I know, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Unfortunately I get several in the and it's like do
I really want to go? You know, it's like I
could be recluse, no problem with.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
That, right, We were just talking about that one and
I were just talking about that before the show. I
am and I'm perfectly we're talking about people with social awkwardness,
and we're talking about different things. And you know, when
it's my domain, like my radio shows my domain. When
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I do a speaking engagements my domain. When I was
in the retail business, the store was my domain. When
I go to a music festival, that's my domain. Even
though people could argue that's not your domain, No, it
is because that's my environment. Okay. If I would have
family get togethers or even any kind even while I
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was in high school, I didn't like going to part
the high school parties, I usually had them at my
house because it was my domain, you know. And same
with you know, family get together as and what our
parties like if somebody invites me over to a house party,
most of the time, I really really don't want to go.
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And I'm an extreme extrovert. So it has nothing to
do with being introverted, has nothing to do with you know,
social you know awkwardness. It's just it's not my vit.
It's not my domain. So it's like you go somewhere
where you don't know anybody, Like if I go somewhere
like a restaurant, I don't know anybody. I have no
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problem with that. But when I'm going in somebody else's
domain and I don't know anybody, like, I don't feel comfortable,
let's put it that way. But if you were in
my house and I didn't know you, I would feel
totally comfortable. It's my domain, and you know, it's my show.
You're all living in it, opposed to me living in
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somebody else's show.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah, It's it's that way, you know, because you're you're
always being set up. It seems like that there's always
going to be somebody there that's gonna be And of
course you and I are in specialty type of domains,
if you will, and you know, when somebody asks you
what you do what I do.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
It's like, how can you do that?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
You know, you know, especially like on my stuff with
health and everything else, Well, I'm against every doctor, every
every vax, every you know, drug, and it's like there
we go down the road. I just you know, I
would rather avoid that unless you truly want to know
how to fix your health and the health of your
pat and that's the important part, you know. Yeah, it's
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like me doing any speaking engagement like you and like you,
you know, the show, it's so easy.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
But because it is my domain.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
You're right, exactly, and you know what interesting, I just
thought of something right now, thing too. You know that
I refer to the ex wives as Thing one and
Thing two. Okay, Thing two is exactly what you described.
It was Thanksgiving. I was single, she was single, and
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Heather Briquette invited both of us to her parents' house
for Thanksgiving dinner and that's how we met. So I
don't like Heather Burnett anymore because there you go, uh,
just kidding, but uh, yeah, you made me think of
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it because you're getting set up because she didn't tell
either one of us that's what she was doing.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, exactly, I know.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
That's uh, you know, it's a stressful time for all
of us and especially for our pets as well. And
that's the that's the one thing we have to understand
that we have to consider what's going on with them.
You know a lot of people will turn around and
lock them in the bathroom or in a bedroom.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
That's worse.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
And that's the actually it is actually worse because they.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Are part of our family but just don't want to
be around the other people.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Well, there's parents that do that to their kids and
the same thing like that. That's why kids lash out
like they want to be part of it. They don't
want to be locked in the room, you know, and
the dogs or cats don't either. You know, it's their home.
Why are they being locked up?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Right, that's exactly right, You've got that one.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I'd rather lock up the people coming over, to be honest,
put them all in the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
So yeah, yeah, Holidays, Like what I was just gonna say,
it's just a recipe for disaster for health and for
humans and animals. You got the stress plus the poison,
Like you couldn't have a worse combination, and nobody's ever happy.
There's always arguments, there's always toxicity. Like you see some
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people you haven't seen in the year and now and
you know why you haven't seen them in the year,
and you know, I just think they should eliminate the holidays.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Personally, it's uh yeah, it's too commercial. You know, everybody's
comparing it to everybody else in the room. You know,
their clothes, their gifts, gifts, even if you're bringing a
part of the dinner. You know, well, I don't like
Aunt Mary's uh you know pie, but I prefer Aunt
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Joyce's Pie instead.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
You know, it's like, well, you have to eat stuff
like I remember being at Thanksgiving dinner at my sister
in law's house and I hate him forget being kosher.
That's not why, I just hate it. And I had
to choke down some ham at that Thanksgiving dinner because
I didn't want to make anybody feel bad.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yes, yeah, so there's a lot of negatives to all
of that. You know, we don't have to have big celebrations,
you know, and if you want to have guests over
that sort of thing, you know, I prefer to have
like minded and you know, and possibly get into some
good intellectual conversations discussions. And of course when you have
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that and you're gonna pat especially dogs but cats as well,
they generally want to join in and they're gonna be
right there with you because you're feeling good about yourself
and as stress is gone.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah. Well, I can also tell you that it's kind
of you're talking about the commercialization. It's kind of ridiculous
that there is, uh, you know, Thanksgiving, because I just
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found out recently Canada has a Thanksgiving and I said
to the my friend, like, why do you have Thanksgiving?
It it didn't happen where you are, so it just
meant and not that they didn't have their own thing,
but it just makes me believe, you know, they just
make up these stupid holidays for retail companies, grocery stores
and all this stuff, and it's all about money. It's
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not about what really happened, because you know, US Americans
were very sheltered. We think, oh, Thanksgivings only for us
because you know we did this and blah blah blah
blah blah. But no other countries have it, So now
it doesn't make any sense anymore.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Well to your being, you know, you're being fed says
poisonous food basically, and who's selling the poisons to the
food companies are the drug companies and a chemical companies.
So it's it's just we're creating a problem because half
the people that had Thanksgiving dinner are going to regret
it the next day and if not that night. And
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you know, as they were were over stuff ourselves, if
you will, just trying to sample a little bit of
everything and.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
The stomach just can't handle it.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
That intestinal trap is very programs for specific things, and
when you give it all that junk, you know, and again,
same thing with our pets.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
You know, they're gonna get into it. The flavors are there,
the smells are there, and you.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Know they're sitting there at the table begging, and so
somebody's going to start giving.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Something, yeah, or stuff's gonna drop on.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
The floor, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
So what are your recommendations of what people should do?
We know, what we shouldn't do. What should we do
during the holidays for our pets?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
They basically you know, surround yourself with again, people that
aren't going to stress you out, that aren't going to
stress out the pets. You know, keep your regular routine,
you know, feeding a good, good species appropriate diet. Sometimes
you may have to tune up the training a little
bit so that you know, we don't have behavioral issues
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going on.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
You know, we don't need anybody getting bit or scratched.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
And you know, maintain your life basically like you do
the whole rest of the year as long as as
long as you know, your content and peaceful.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
And so how can people reach out to you to
get more information not only about this, you know, not
only about the holidays, but all year round. How to
keep your pets healthy and happy? With proper diet and
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proper parenting. I'll even call it.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yes, well, of course I'm I'm on the Pet Health
Cafe on your network every Thursday night, eight o'clock, so
we'll be able to jump on and answer a life
of questions there. Go back through the archives as well,
because a lot of the stuff is cataloged by issues,
you know, by problems, so you know if your dog
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is suffering from cancer or your cat's got diabetes. There's
going to be several, probably multiple hours of discussion on
that with a lot of experts of which I can
be reached at my Paleo Pet and where we do consultation.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
We actually make foods for your animals.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
We can sit down with all the herbs and botanicals
and formulate what would be best for your animal to
get them back in at optimal health state. And along
with that, of course our farm to table philosophy for
people that we have the proteins that you need, we
have the the pasture raised eggs, raw dairy and things
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of that nature that go along with it.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
And essentially every product that's.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
In my Paleo Pet today is also good for people.
There is no animal feed great any thing so and
and like on the proteins we use. We use you know,
basically a high choice or better. You can't even buy
that in most of the supermarkets anymore. Yeah, So, yeah,
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I can be reached there. We'll be glad to help
out anyone. If you've got serious problems on the website,
you can also go on and book a consultation. Then
that way I can explain in you know, basically in
great detail, not only what foods are best or that
sort of thing, which you know it's so called. Other
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stories will say it doing, but I'll tell you how
the body works and why it needs it. And it's
very specific, but we keep it as simple as possible.
You know, none of this doctor talk. That's just you know,
this is what you need to do.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Well. You are definitely a wealth of knowledge. As we've
talked about for many, many years. There's nobody I've ever
met that knows more about how you could have a
healthier and happier pet. And Frank, if you don't want
a healthier and happier pet, you should not be a
pet owner.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
You know, you know, one of one of the things
that that's a pet peeve that I began to show
here I can help people with.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
But if you're going to adopt or.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
You know, trying to think that you're going to rescue,
if you will, make sure you know what to do,
because so many times these animals that are in the shelters,
you think you're doing a good thing and then you
throw down a inappropriate diet.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
You know, you listen to.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
That white coat community that just loading you up with
all kinds of drugs and other poisons, and at some
point in time you're going to run out of money.
And we don't want that to happen. We want the
animals to be healthy, healthy and happy and you know,
keep them that way. So make sure you do your
homework before before you do anything like that.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
And part of that homework, I say, is to reach
out to the path Health Guru and to watch Pet
Health Cafe. That's definitely part of it, for sure. Any
final tips you have for the holidays, for well at
least Thanksgiving holiday that pen owners should know in order
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to make sure it's the least stressful and happiest time for.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Your pet exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
You got it all right, Well, thank you very much.
Pet Health Guru, you rock and everybody make sure to
watch the show. Go to my Pellio pet I mean,
it'll change your life. If you're a pet person, The
Pet Health gurul change your life and you can check
out more tips from the Pet Health Guru every week
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here on the Positively pipe Man segment of the Adventures
of Pipe Man right here on W four CY Radio.
And thanks Bill for once again helping all the pet
people in the world.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Thank you Dean having I always enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Patement on
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