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Bourbon & Beyond is the World’s Largest Bourbon, Food & Music Fest
Bourbon & Beyond Kicked Off America’s 8 Biggest Days In Music on September 11-14 In Louisville, Kentucky
World’s Largest Bourbon, Food & Music Festival Featured Headliners The Lumineers, Benson Boone, Alabama Shakes (Thursday), Phish, Khruangbin, Joe Bonamassa (Friday), Sturgill “Johnny Blue Skies” Simpson, Jack White, Vance Joy (Saturday), Noah Kahan, Goo Goo Dolls, Megan Moroney (Sunday), Plus Dozens More Rock, Americana, Bluegrass And Alt Rock Artists Along With Elevated Bourbon & Culinary Experiences.
The seventh Bourbon & Beyond welcomed fans from over 50 states and around the globe and over 120 music artists on five stages to Louisville, Kentucky over the weekend. The World’s Largest Bourbon, Food & Music Festival was held from September 11-14 at the at Kentucky Exposition Center in Louisville, Kentucky and featured an incredible music lineup of music legends and rising stars with headliners The Lumineers, Benson Boone and Alabama Shakes on Thursday; Phish, Khruangbin and Joe Bonamassa on Friday; Sturgill “Johnny Blue Skies” Simpson, Jack White and Vance Joy on Saturday; and Noah Kahan, Goo Goo Dolls and Megan Moroney on Sunday. The lineup also included Cage The Elephant, Pat Benatar & Neil Giraldo, Collective Soul, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Iron & Wine, Trombone Shorty & Orleans Avenue, Switchfoot, Third Eye Blind, Ringo Starr & His All Star Band, Pixies, Lake Street Dive, Dashboard Confessional, Foreigner, Blues Traveler and many others.
This year, Bourbon & Beyond’s newly expanded footprint doubled the square footage of past layouts, and made greater use of the Kentucky Exposition Center’s infrastructure, creating a more comfortable and resilient experience for fans. In addition, all festival passes included FREE access to amusement rides inside Kentucky Kingdom.
This year’s festival was packed with unforgettable performances, surprise collaborations, and historic moments that will be remembered for years to come. Take some zany and serious journeys with The Pipeman aka Dean K. Piper, CST on The Adventures of Pipeman also known as Pipeman Radio syndicated globally “Where Who Knows And Anything Goes.”
Check out our segment Positively Pipeman dedicated to Business, Motivation, Spiritual, and Health & Wellness.
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Bourbon & Beyond is the World’s Largest Bourbon, Food & Music Fest
Bourbon & Beyond Kicked Off America’s 8 Biggest Days In Music on September 11-14 In Louisville, Kentucky
World’s Largest Bourbon, Food & Music Festival Featured Headliners The Lumineers, Benson Boone, Alabama Shakes (Thursday), Phish, Khruangbin, Joe Bonamassa (Friday), Sturgill “Johnny Blue Skies” Simpson, Jack White, Vance Joy (Saturday), Noah Kahan, Goo Goo Dolls, Megan Moroney (Sunday), Plus Dozens More Rock, Americana, Bluegrass And Alt Rock Artists Along With Elevated Bourbon & Culinary Experiences.
The seventh Bourbon & Beyond welcomed fans from over 50 states and around the globe and over 120 music artists on five stages to Louisville, Kentucky over the weekend. The World’s Largest Bourbon, Food & Music Festival was held from September 11-14 at the at Kentucky Exposition Center in Louisville, Kentucky and featured an incredible music lineup of music legends and rising stars with headliners The Lumineers, Benson Boone and Alabama Shakes on Thursday; Phish, Khruangbin and Joe Bonamassa on Friday; Sturgill “Johnny Blue Skies” Simpson, Jack White and Vance Joy on Saturday; and Noah Kahan, Goo Goo Dolls and Megan Moroney on Sunday. The lineup also included Cage The Elephant, Pat Benatar & Neil Giraldo, Collective Soul, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Iron & Wine, Trombone Shorty & Orleans Avenue, Switchfoot, Third Eye Blind, Ringo Starr & His All Star Band, Pixies, Lake Street Dive, Dashboard Confessional, Foreigner, Blues Traveler and many others.
This year, Bourbon & Beyond’s newly expanded footprint doubled the square footage of past layouts, and made greater use of the Kentucky Exposition Center’s infrastructure, creating a more comfortable and resilient experience for fans. In addition, all festival passes included FREE access to amusement rides inside Kentucky Kingdom.
This year’s festival was packed with unforgettable performances, surprise collaborations, and historic moments that will be remembered for years to come. Take some zany and serious journeys with The Pipeman aka Dean K. Piper, CST on The Adventures of Pipeman also known as Pipeman Radio syndicated globally “Where Who Knows And Anything Goes.”
Check out our segment Positively Pipeman dedicated to Business, Motivation, Spiritual, and Health & Wellness.
Check out our segment Pipeman in the Pit dedicated to Music, Artistry and Entertainment.
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Would you like to have your business, products, services, merch, programs, books, music or any other professional or artistic endeavors promoted on the show?
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hi, you have done too, Yes, that's true. Why for you?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
You? This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures
of Pipe Man W four C Y Radio. And I
don't know what band I have now, so well I went.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
You already got the first half of the correct so
you're already on the right track.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I know, right.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
My name is Dallen and the name of the band
is I don't know how, but they found me. I like,
it's a mouthful, I understand.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It's seven words, seven the syllables maybe eight, I don't know.
I lose count two. I understand. It's confusing. It's a
terrible business choice.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Well not really, because I think everybody doesn't realize all
the band names have been taken by Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, that was it, Like this was the only one left.
I did really did have a choice.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
And you figure in Google too, so like ay, by
googling that, all they're gonna find is you. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Well it's a quote from Back to the Future, which
is one of my favorite movies, has been since I
was a kid. And then this band was a secret
project that I was doing. For the first like year
or so, I was in a different band, more popular
bands and decided to start doing this in secret and
just book shows and dive bars under this ridiculous band name,
(01:27):
and then people started to get on board with it
and it became too late to change. So now I'm
just stuck with it. But band names are I was
always terrible.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I would show up.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
But when you think about enough balls.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
To do that long of a band name, you must
be good.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, you just kind of have to embrace the nature
of the ridiculousness of band names, like they're all bad.
The Beatles best band ever. Their band name is a pun.
That's terrible. That's terrible, but they're the Beatles.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
And Ringo's here today is incredible. Yeah, and who named Ringo?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I think Ringo got to choose for himself and he
chose well he did. Mister Sharkey chose well he did.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
He's the reason I started playing drums. He's not the
reason I sucked at He's just the reason I started
playing drums.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Good. That's good as a reason as any of Beatles
are why I picked up a guitar finally, when I
was fifteen.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Okay, so I have a trivia question, then hit love
that you said that, who is one of the greatest
known bassists that was not a bassist.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
A Bassis that was not a Bassis. Well, you're probably
talking about Paul McCartney because he didn't start there.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
He sort of he drew it a short straw.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, he said, well, I guess I'll do it, And
thank god that he did, because my gut, what a
clever bass player.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
After I learned that then, because I was a Beatles
freaker from a little kid, and after I learned, I
started listening to Beatles' songs differently and I'm like, holy shit,
he plays the bass like a guitar and I'd never
noticed before I actually knew.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, it was the nineties when the Beatles anthology hits
the airwaves on TV, and I was learning at the
same time, So I was simultaneously falling in love with
those two things at the same time, playing guitar and
learning about the Beatles, and I was obsessed and I
had to have the haircut. And if it was from
the sixties, especially from England, like I was all about it.
And if it wasn't from that era, it was garbage
(03:15):
of course, right, So there's that period of time where
it was the Beatles. Was this the end and the
beginning for me.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Well, you know what's amazing about the Beatles is they
started off very simplistic and they became very complex musically.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I think it was all by necessity too, Like you
watched the interviews about them playing places like say Stadium,
and as culturally impactful as that moment was, they couldn't
hear what they were doing, and so they they stopped
playing live and became a studio band. And it was
born out of necessity because they were a great live
band all those years in Hamburg and playing for eight
(03:52):
hours at a time. But set touring is the Beatles.
It was stand on stage and be screamed at for
an hour, twenty minutes or whatever a headlining set was
back then.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, exactly like Shays staym Like you said, that was insane.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
They definitely were quick to have people hear what they
were doing. That sound system didn't exist yet.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
It's wild. Yeah, So what story good or bad in
this whole musical journey is one that you're gonna talk
about when you're eighty Oh.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Man, Well, the bad ones are easy, right, bring up?
They're easier to remember than the good ones.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Spot.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I wish that wasn't the case, but you always remember
the time that goes wrong. You kind of have to
sit and ruminate and think about it for a little bit.
All of the good ones, but ultimately the good ones
and those good moments make all of the bad moments
worth it. So it's a trade off.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Really, you need the bad with the good. Yeah, is
there anything that sticks out in your mind at all
that like you're like, oh, either good or bad? Like
you're like, oh, man, that was I never expected that moment,
or plenty.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Of unexpected moments, like especially at festivals and places like this,
where you're walking into play for groups of people who
aren't necessarily your audience. You got to put in some
work and win some people over, and when that, when
it happens, that's a really great feeling. There's nothing that
compares to that.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
That is pretty cool when you do go in with
these expectations of like, oh, who's going to like my
music here, I'm in the wrong place. Yeah, and then
all of a sudden they're out there singing the ship
back to you and that, Yeah, like that happen.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I don't think it's something that you should concern yourself
with too much, because you have to when it comes
to the art you're making. You got to please yourself first,
and if anybody else happens to like what you're doing,
that's just an awesome bonus that you get to enjoy.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I think you hit the nail on the head because
that's when you get your following because you're being authentic.
You can't please everybody, so why bother making art to
please others? It's never going to be as good as
what you're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Please wait, you're saying reminds me of this great David
Bowie and that I think he did twenty thirty years ago.
He was talking about how you should never play to
the gallery, never give people what you think they want.
You tend to do your worst work that way. Instead,
go further out into the water. Then you're comfortable, and
when your toes are barely touched on the ground, then
you're just about in a good place to make something interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I love that because you look at somebody like David Bowie,
he definitely went outside the zone of what anybody would
in his time.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, playing to the gallery is not something he was
ever concerned about.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And look at the icon he has become.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
And that's how you do it. That's how you do it.
You make the art you want to make and people
will get on board with it or they won't. And
even if they don't get on board with it, at
least you made the thing that you wanted.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
To make and you can enjoy it. Yeah, Like, there's
gotta be nothing more miserable than making music that you
don't enjoy any.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Exactly play it live exactly right, exactly. There are some
people who sign up to be the belaver of the
month and they have their huge hits or they're five
years in the spotlight where they're the biggest thing in
the world. And if that's what you're after, if that's
what you're chasing, god bless you. But yeah, you've got
to go up there every night and play your hit.
And if it's not a hit that you enjoy, that's
(07:14):
gotta suck man.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
There's this band that plays at the festival next week.
I don't think they are maybe they aretists here, but
there's one song that's like one of their most popular songs.
That's a cover song of an artist that in that
genre probably wouldn't be so popular, but it is a
really good version and you could tell that they hate
(07:37):
the fact when they're on stage they have to play
that song.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, that's everman, because this is supposed to be fun,
and if it's not fun, you got to change something.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, exactly. And that's a good point right there, what
you said, if it's not fun, changing because the rest
of the business is not fun. Yeah, So why should
not fun?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Everything surrounding the good part is just miserable.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Right, So you need the good part.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Otherwise, why are you here?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Exactly when did that first moment happen in your life
when you knew this was what you had to do.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Oh, man, I had to be twenty twenty one or
twenty two. I think I had a local band in
Salt Lake City that we were just getting started, and
I think we had played maybe three or three shows,
and then this fourth show that we played, people came
who weren't related to us or weren't our co workers.
He was the first time that like people had heard
about our band right and came to see our band,
(08:30):
and we didn't know these people, and it filled up
this tiny little club and the show went great, and
it was actual people who were just like here for
the music that we were making and I was like, okay, this,
I have to do this forever now. That was it.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I love that because it's a great feeling, right, Like
it's a mist People you've never seen in your life
are like there.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
My favorite moment is the dudes who are in the
crowd that had their arms folded with their soulen faces
that are like, okay, who's this clown? Show me what
you got guy, And if you can get those arms
unfolded and get that guy on board, like, that's my
favorite thing to do.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You know what. I feel the same way about what
I do because you do have that because listen, this
is the job of an artist. So again it goes
on that outside of the fun part. Usually Yeah, and
so they walk around this tent to thirty interviews, same
stupid questions that they've answered a million times. They come
over you and they have this look on their face
(09:29):
and they have this like all right questions right, And
the minute you could get them to like start slouching
and like get comfortable what I'm doing there you go,
you could tell and the look on their face changes
is like boom, because you know what, talk to them
what they're passionate about, not what is on your script?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, yeah, h questions like what does this song mean?
Or what does that lyric mean? Like those questions like
that are so and you can always you know, I
would much rather talk about like how we made the
song or how we made something, rather than like what
the meaning is because art arts meaning is always so interpretive,
interpretive and individualistic and subjective, and there's no objective way
(10:15):
to really explain your art because you might have one
idea and the person listening might have a completely different.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Why influence it, Like some of the best songs were
written on what the artists was feeling at the time,
but every person listening puts their own feeling to it
and their own meaning to it, and I'd rather keep
it that way, yeah, because if you try change it,
then I think it changes their.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
View, might disconnect to them from the bit of art
that you made. So yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And so what you guys got going on? After Burba
and beyond, we're heading.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Back to Salt Lake City, where I live at right now,
but we've got a couple more shows along the way.
It's just a quick little run to get us hearing back.
So yeah, just out for like a week.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Nice, And how do you feel that Danny Wimmer treats
artists so far? Of your experience here at Bourbon and Beyond.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I'm assuming that Danny Wimmer is the guy running this stoint.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
He's the one that runs Danny Wimmer presents Surban and Beyond.
He is he mister Bourbon or mister Beyond. Which one
do you refer to? I think he's both.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I'm sure I'm grateful he's putting this thing on. It's
wonderful to be here. I'm excited to play.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Nice And have you got to look around at the
venue at all? Not yet.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I just woke up a little bit ago and came
straight over here.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Nice. Well, you gotta check it out.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I absolutely will.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I guarantee you you're gonna love this festival because.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
We're gonna lost you. Well, no peer pressure, none at all.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
It's just a synergistic relationship here. Well, I thank you
for having us, Hey, I thank you for being here
at Bourbon Beyond. Tell everybody how they can reach out
to you on socials, on the web, by your merch,
get your music, all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Well, the merch buying, that's the important bit. That's really
why I do this to sell T shirts.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I know, right, but I tell them that they can't
listen to my show and let's say, buy your merch
because I don't want you to promote it, but you
can't get to the next gig without it.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Well, yeah, the band name is a little long, so
the if you're into the whole brevity thing, then IDK
how you'll be able to find us on socials using
those letters.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
IDK how wait, I don't know how I'm supposed to
find you now.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
That's the new band name. Just changed it right now? Nice?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Well, thanks a lot for being here and thanks for
being on the Adventures of Pipe Main.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Thanks sir, Thank you for listening to the Adventures of
Pipemin on w for CUI Radio.
Hi, you have done too, Yes, that's true. Why for you?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
You? This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures
of Pipe Man W four C Y Radio. And I
don't know what band I have now, so well I went.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
You already got the first half of the correct so
you're already on the right track.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I know, right.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
My name is Dallen and the name of the band
is I don't know how, but they found me. I like,
it's a mouthful, I understand.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It's seven words, seven the syllables maybe eight, I don't know.
I lose count two. I understand. It's confusing. It's a
terrible business choice.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Well not really, because I think everybody doesn't realize all
the band names have been taken by Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, that was it, Like this was the only one left.
I did really did have a choice.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
And you figure in Google too, so like ay, by
googling that, all they're gonna find is you. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Well it's a quote from Back to the Future, which
is one of my favorite movies, has been since I
was a kid. And then this band was a secret
project that I was doing. For the first like year
or so, I was in a different band, more popular
bands and decided to start doing this in secret and
just book shows and dive bars under this ridiculous band name,
(01:27):
and then people started to get on board with it
and it became too late to change. So now I'm
just stuck with it. But band names are I was
always terrible.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I would show up.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
But when you think about enough balls.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
To do that long of a band name, you must
be good.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, you just kind of have to embrace the nature
of the ridiculousness of band names, like they're all bad.
The Beatles best band ever. Their band name is a pun.
That's terrible. That's terrible, but they're the Beatles.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
And Ringo's here today is incredible. Yeah, and who named Ringo?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I think Ringo got to choose for himself and he
chose well he did. Mister Sharkey chose well he did.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
He's the reason I started playing drums. He's not the
reason I sucked at He's just the reason I started
playing drums.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Good. That's good as a reason as any of Beatles
are why I picked up a guitar finally, when I
was fifteen.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Okay, so I have a trivia question, then hit love
that you said that, who is one of the greatest
known bassists that was not a bassist.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
A Bassis that was not a Bassis. Well, you're probably
talking about Paul McCartney because he didn't start there.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
He sort of he drew it a short straw.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, he said, well, I guess I'll do it, And
thank god that he did, because my gut, what a
clever bass player.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
After I learned that then, because I was a Beatles
freaker from a little kid, and after I learned, I
started listening to Beatles' songs differently and I'm like, holy shit,
he plays the bass like a guitar and I'd never
noticed before I actually knew.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, it was the nineties when the Beatles anthology hits
the airwaves on TV, and I was learning at the
same time, So I was simultaneously falling in love with
those two things at the same time, playing guitar and
learning about the Beatles, and I was obsessed and I
had to have the haircut. And if it was from
the sixties, especially from England, like I was all about it.
And if it wasn't from that era, it was garbage
(03:15):
of course, right, So there's that period of time where
it was the Beatles. Was this the end and the
beginning for me.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Well, you know what's amazing about the Beatles is they
started off very simplistic and they became very complex musically.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I think it was all by necessity too, Like you
watched the interviews about them playing places like say Stadium,
and as culturally impactful as that moment was, they couldn't
hear what they were doing, and so they they stopped
playing live and became a studio band. And it was
born out of necessity because they were a great live
band all those years in Hamburg and playing for eight
(03:52):
hours at a time. But set touring is the Beatles.
It was stand on stage and be screamed at for
an hour, twenty minutes or whatever a headlining set was
back then.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, exactly like Shays staym Like you said, that was insane.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
They definitely were quick to have people hear what they
were doing. That sound system didn't exist yet.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
It's wild. Yeah, So what story good or bad in
this whole musical journey is one that you're gonna talk
about when you're eighty Oh.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Man, Well, the bad ones are easy, right, bring up?
They're easier to remember than the good ones.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Spot.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I wish that wasn't the case, but you always remember
the time that goes wrong. You kind of have to
sit and ruminate and think about it for a little bit.
All of the good ones, but ultimately the good ones
and those good moments make all of the bad moments
worth it. So it's a trade off.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Really, you need the bad with the good. Yeah, is
there anything that sticks out in your mind at all
that like you're like, oh, either good or bad? Like
you're like, oh, man, that was I never expected that moment,
or plenty.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Of unexpected moments, like especially at festivals and places like this,
where you're walking into play for groups of people who
aren't necessarily your audience. You got to put in some
work and win some people over, and when that, when
it happens, that's a really great feeling. There's nothing that
compares to that.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
That is pretty cool when you do go in with
these expectations of like, oh, who's going to like my
music here, I'm in the wrong place. Yeah, and then
all of a sudden they're out there singing the ship
back to you and that, Yeah, like that happen.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I don't think it's something that you should concern yourself
with too much, because you have to when it comes
to the art you're making. You got to please yourself first,
and if anybody else happens to like what you're doing,
that's just an awesome bonus that you get to enjoy.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I think you hit the nail on the head because
that's when you get your following because you're being authentic.
You can't please everybody, so why bother making art to
please others? It's never going to be as good as
what you're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Please wait, you're saying reminds me of this great David
Bowie and that I think he did twenty thirty years ago.
He was talking about how you should never play to
the gallery, never give people what you think they want.
You tend to do your worst work that way. Instead,
go further out into the water. Then you're comfortable, and
when your toes are barely touched on the ground, then
you're just about in a good place to make something interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I love that because you look at somebody like David Bowie,
he definitely went outside the zone of what anybody would
in his time.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, playing to the gallery is not something he was
ever concerned about.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And look at the icon he has become.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
And that's how you do it. That's how you do it.
You make the art you want to make and people
will get on board with it or they won't. And
even if they don't get on board with it, at
least you made the thing that you wanted.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
To make and you can enjoy it. Yeah, Like, there's
gotta be nothing more miserable than making music that you
don't enjoy any.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Exactly play it live exactly right, exactly. There are some
people who sign up to be the belaver of the
month and they have their huge hits or they're five
years in the spotlight where they're the biggest thing in
the world. And if that's what you're after, if that's
what you're chasing, god bless you. But yeah, you've got
to go up there every night and play your hit.
And if it's not a hit that you enjoy, that's
(07:14):
gotta suck man.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
There's this band that plays at the festival next week.
I don't think they are maybe they aretists here, but
there's one song that's like one of their most popular songs.
That's a cover song of an artist that in that
genre probably wouldn't be so popular, but it is a
really good version and you could tell that they hate
(07:37):
the fact when they're on stage they have to play
that song.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, that's everman, because this is supposed to be fun,
and if it's not fun, you got to change something.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, exactly. And that's a good point right there, what
you said, if it's not fun, changing because the rest
of the business is not fun. Yeah, So why should
not fun?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Everything surrounding the good part is just miserable.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Right, So you need the good part.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Otherwise, why are you here?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Exactly when did that first moment happen in your life
when you knew this was what you had to do.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Oh, man, I had to be twenty twenty one or
twenty two. I think I had a local band in
Salt Lake City that we were just getting started, and
I think we had played maybe three or three shows,
and then this fourth show that we played, people came
who weren't related to us or weren't our co workers.
He was the first time that like people had heard
about our band right and came to see our band,
(08:30):
and we didn't know these people, and it filled up
this tiny little club and the show went great, and
it was actual people who were just like here for
the music that we were making and I was like, okay, this,
I have to do this forever now. That was it.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I love that because it's a great feeling, right, Like
it's a mist People you've never seen in your life
are like there.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
My favorite moment is the dudes who are in the
crowd that had their arms folded with their soulen faces
that are like, okay, who's this clown? Show me what
you got guy, And if you can get those arms
unfolded and get that guy on board, like, that's my
favorite thing to do.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You know what. I feel the same way about what
I do because you do have that because listen, this
is the job of an artist. So again it goes
on that outside of the fun part. Usually Yeah, and
so they walk around this tent to thirty interviews, same
stupid questions that they've answered a million times. They come
over you and they have this look on their face
(09:29):
and they have this like all right questions right, And
the minute you could get them to like start slouching
and like get comfortable what I'm doing there you go,
you could tell and the look on their face changes
is like boom, because you know what, talk to them
what they're passionate about, not what is on your script?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, yeah, h questions like what does this song mean?
Or what does that lyric mean? Like those questions like
that are so and you can always you know, I
would much rather talk about like how we made the
song or how we made something, rather than like what
the meaning is because art arts meaning is always so interpretive,
interpretive and individualistic and subjective, and there's no objective way
(10:15):
to really explain your art because you might have one
idea and the person listening might have a completely different.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Why influence it, Like some of the best songs were
written on what the artists was feeling at the time,
but every person listening puts their own feeling to it
and their own meaning to it, and I'd rather keep
it that way, yeah, because if you try change it,
then I think it changes their.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
View, might disconnect to them from the bit of art
that you made. So yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And so what you guys got going on? After Burba
and beyond, we're heading.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Back to Salt Lake City, where I live at right now,
but we've got a couple more shows along the way.
It's just a quick little run to get us hearing back.
So yeah, just out for like a week.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Nice, And how do you feel that Danny Wimmer treats
artists so far? Of your experience here at Bourbon and Beyond.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I'm assuming that Danny Wimmer is the guy running this stoint.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
He's the one that runs Danny Wimmer presents Surban and Beyond.
He is he mister Bourbon or mister Beyond. Which one
do you refer to? I think he's both.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I'm sure I'm grateful he's putting this thing on. It's
wonderful to be here. I'm excited to play.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Nice And have you got to look around at the
venue at all? Not yet.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I just woke up a little bit ago and came
straight over here.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Nice. Well, you gotta check it out.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I absolutely will.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I guarantee you you're gonna love this festival because.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
We're gonna lost you. Well, no peer pressure, none at all.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
It's just a synergistic relationship here. Well, I thank you
for having us, Hey, I thank you for being here
at Bourbon Beyond. Tell everybody how they can reach out
to you on socials, on the web, by your merch,
get your music, all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Well, the merch buying, that's the important bit. That's really
why I do this to sell T shirts.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I know, right, but I tell them that they can't
listen to my show and let's say, buy your merch
because I don't want you to promote it, but you
can't get to the next gig without it.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Well, yeah, the band name is a little long, so
the if you're into the whole brevity thing, then IDK
how you'll be able to find us on socials using
those letters.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
IDK how wait, I don't know how I'm supposed to
find you now.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
That's the new band name. Just changed it right now? Nice?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Well, thanks a lot for being here and thanks for
being on the Adventures of Pipe Main.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Thanks sir, Thank you for listening to the Adventures of
Pipemin on w for CUI Radio.
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