September 27, 2025 • 33 mins
Stephen “Hamie” Hayman
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HEAVY PETTIN RETURN TO RECLAIM THEIR RIGHTFUL ROCK ‘N’ ROLL TURF WITH ‘ROCK GENERATION’ October 24th via Silver Lining Music, first since 1989
Heavy Pettin went on a triple decade hiatus
14 date tour with rock legends Uriah Heep and April Wine, hitting venues in Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Poland.
Click Here to Subscribe to The Adventures of Pipeman for PERKS, BONUS Content & FREE GIVEWAYS!
Pipeman in the Pit is a music, festival, and interview segment of The Adventures of Pipeman Radio Show (#pipemanradio) and from The King of All Festivals while on The Pipeman Radio Tour.
Pipeman in the Pit features all kinds of music and interviews with bands & music artists especially in the genres of Heavy Metal, Rock, Hard Rock, Classic Rock, Punk Rock, Goth, Industrial, Alternative, Thrash Metal & Indie Music. Pipeman in the Pit also features press coverage of events, concerts, & music festivals. Pipeman Productions is an artist management company that sponsors the show introducing new local & national talent showcasing new artists & indie artists.
Then there is The Pipeman Radio Tour where Pipeman travels the country and world doing press coverage for Major Business Events, Conferences, Conventions, Music Festivals, Concerts, Award Shows, and Red Carpets. One of the top publicists in music has named Pipeman the “King of All Festivals.” So join the Pipeman as he brings “The Pipeman Radio Tour” to life right before your ears and eyes.
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Speaker 3 (00:53):
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tell you about their next guest. My next guest is
because oh my god, it's like one of the longest
hiatus in history, and I'm very excited about the new music.
You know it is funny. Okay, So first I'll just
(01:14):
say this is Amy from Heavy Patton and I had
an interview recently with band a band that I was
friends with when I was a teenager and I haven't
seen since, and they just came out with a new album.
And then there you go another bet in their beat
and they were Savage Grace and their band Dark Angel.
(01:35):
They just came out with a new album. It seems
to be the trend nowadays that all the bands from
way back are all playing out new music now and
actually touring and everything. It's like it's like they never left.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
It's like, yeah, I've made a bunch of different people
in different bands on tours and stuff that are all
back together, just like cousin not playing and stuff. And well,
I mean everybody, it's the best gig in the world.
Play man, that's it, brother, it's everybody wants to be
back out playing, And especially if you've got songs, especially
(02:13):
if you've got songs that you really did didn't think
the world needs to hear and think that you can
still deliver. So I think that's the big key. If
I failed, that our songs were terrible or we couldn't
cut it live, then I wouldn't be back out playing,
you know.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
And that's because you're a true artist. And as a
true artist, we're our own worst critic.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Oh yeah, definitely, definitely yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
And I you know, it's funny because what's cool about too,
is so I do radio coverage at festivals all over
the US, UK, Europe. Just got back from a few,
And what I love nowadays is bands like yours, bands
like you know that are in our age group. Younger
(03:01):
generations are into like I remember being a teenageer going
to see bands on that Sunset strip in LA in
the eighties and I would never go see a band
of people my age now, And yet kids love it.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
So yeah, yeah, it's it is pretty cool. It's pretty
amazing that, you know, a lot of the shows that
we play and you do the meet and Greeks after
and all this kind of stuff, and people are talking
to you. You know, it's just amazing. You know that
they started playing, you know, they started getting into everything
(03:37):
because of you and everything else, and you know, it's
it's in the different age groups are just absolutely amazing
to me at the moment because it's like you get
people that are our age, you know, you get people
that are sixty, you get people in your fiftiest, people
in your forties, thirties, and they even way down till
in the teens because their mom and dad have been
(04:00):
playing our music or whoever's music, and these kids have
been digging that and then they want to go out
and see other live acts, which is absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Well see, I think that's what's the key too, because
like myself, I've brought my son and my daughters and
my grandkids to festivals and concerts of my music. But
yet there's no way in a million years my dad
would have ever gone to any show I wanted to
(04:29):
go to. And I think that's the difference. Our parents
were into a very different type of music, whereas it
seems now that the the rock metal hard rock is
like multi generational now, which it wasn't when I was.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Oh god, yeah, no, it definitely is multi generation. And
now I agree with your kids. Look my dad, you
know what I mean. I don't think I think my dad.
I think the first time I think my dad came
me at one show when we were back in the
day doing more thing and we headlined the Apollo in
Glasgow and that was the big place. That was where
(05:09):
we all went to see bands. Is that was a
kid growing up. That's where I saw Queen mat who Slid,
dig Bowie t Rex, you know, priests, I mean everybody
really And so when I played there, head Lane there
and my dad and that came, my family came and
that was one of the shows that he came in.
But I don't really remember him being here, you know,
(05:31):
he never really came here kind of stuff. Whereas my kids,
I have a daughter on the son, and they go
to the they go to shows and they come here there.
You know, they're looking forward to us company too in America,
so they can come to the shows. So it's a
totally different thing now, brother.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Oh yeah, And I think it's great because it's just
made rock like bigger and better than effort.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Hell yeah, yeah, definitely, I totally agree with that. It's
it's it's it's pretty amazing to see and you know,
and you see all the younger, younger faces in the
crowd and all that any other music, and it's and
then you get the chance to meet them after and
it's it's it's pretty awesome. I really dig it.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
So my question is, is what is it that lit
the spark after a triple decade hiatus.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Well, I think it was. Actually I was I'd moved
to well, I've loved in America for a long time,
but I moved to Florida and I was sitting on
the beach with my with my one of my daughters
then and and she was just talking about Dad, you
need to put the band back together in deada dead Dad,
(06:50):
And I was lit, Man, there's no chance of that.
None of us like each other. You know, we haven't
spoke to each other since. I mean the last time
we all spoke to each other was in two thousand
and seven, where the Japanese everybody always wanted to put
us back together, and for whatever reason, nobody would. Nobody
would do it, but we're on different places.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
And then the.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Japanese getting touchway is and they offered a whole bunch
of money and an album and a tour, and we
all thought about it and said, yeah, yeah, let's do it.
And then after the initial phone call was one by one,
we all started bailing again, and because you know, the
old problems, we're all surfacing and so we ended up
walking away from it. And then fast forward to twenty sixteen.
(07:37):
The end of twenty sixteen, my daughter was talking to
me and I said, you know, you're right. I see
a lot of bands getting back together. I said, let
me think about it. And then I made the initial
phone call to Gary the drummer, or named Gordon, the
guitar player, and they get in touch with Punky and
Brian and everything seemed to be a girl. And then
(08:00):
we set out a time that I said, Okay, I'll
flight London and we'll meet up in the studio and
we'll rehearse and see how everybody feels and that kind
of stuff. And so by the time I got on
the plane and I arrived, we were down like two guys.
(08:20):
It was like, well, what the hell, and so we
ended up getting two other people and and that was it.
That really was the whole thing. Eventually the original people
except me decided they didn't want to do it, and
so I kept on filling those spots. You know, we're
finding really good musicians and until I get to to
(08:41):
where we are now, and it's like, I really believe
everything happens for a reason. Yeah, and we are now
at the best part of Heavy Peyton has ever been.
You know, we're a much better band live. Everybody's a
great musician, and we've did some great I mean, we're right,
great songs and the album is fantastic. So I know
(09:04):
I'm not dogging what we did before, but I think
it's like everything everything moves forward, and back in the
day we were great and fantastic, but I think there
was a you know, time to get it's tall, and
it was now set for this new version of Heavy Paint,
which I think is just faster, stronger, tougher and ready wrong.
(09:28):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Well, you know what I think the key to that
is is the fact that you know, basically, you get
to a certain stage light in life and some things
are set aside that allow you to get along with
people in a band that you hand pick better than
then the people you started with when you were teenagers.
(09:51):
That you grow up and then you don't really like
each other, like I would never ninety nine percent of
people I hung out with as a teenager would never
hang out with today.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, that's actually a good equation about it. Yeah, it
really is. You wouldn't, you know. And we had a
great team, don't get me wrong. We had an awesometimes
sale millions of albums, doing whatever term the world away everybody,
and but you know, eventually things happen, and that's what
happened to be is after about ten years a tour
(10:23):
of recording tour and recording tour and recording touring, it was,
it just took its toll, and we just did not
like each other. You know.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
That's what ends up happening. I think when you're spending
that much time with people that maybe you grew apart from,
that's what kind of happens, is the way I look
at it.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, it is, you know, and everybody had different entry.
I mean we are from nineteen eighty to nineteen ninety,
it was like by the time nineteen ninety came, everybody
had different ideas of what they who they wanted to be,
what they wanted to do, and you know, and a
lot that just didn't mesh with the five of us
(11:03):
because we all had different aspirations about what we wanted
to do musically, bandwise, everything.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
So, yeah, you gotta be on the same page bottom line,
you know, especially if you're gonna go do tour dates
and spend time in the studio, like you have to
like each other.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's that's a that is a plus,
and that's a that's a big prerethquisard for me. Now
I need you like all the people I'm hanging that way.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I go and spend time, you know exactly, And I
love it that was your daughter's idea because that just
go Hammer's home the point I talked about in the beginning,
Like if my dad said, let's say he had a
band when he was younger, I don't think I ever
said to him, hey, you should get the band back together.
I'd be like that really be like really okay, you know,
(11:56):
forget it. That was your path, so truly cool. I
think it's really cool your daughter did that.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Like it is. She still takes a lot, she still
takes the credit for it.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I love I love it. Well, of course she does.
Mine went too. So wait, you can't see my whole shirt.
But my youngest store boy for me, it said, said,
you can't scare me. I have three daughters.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Oh that's true.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Right. We're in Florida, by the way, because that's where
I'm at. That's where I'm in my studio in Florida.
Right now, I'm in the Panhandle.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I'm in a little place called a Mexico beach.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Okay. Yeah, the daughter that bought me this, she lives
up by Navarre. She's on the turtle team in thevar beach.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
So not far oh okay, yeah, yeah, so that's cool.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah, I'm in South Florida, where it's a lot crazier.
We call where you are southern Alabama. We don't even
call that Florida road tide right oh man. So yeah,
I was listening to a new album and man, it
is tight. It is really really good, and you know,
(13:13):
it's modern, but it brings me back to those feelings
in the eighties like that, thank you good.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, I appreciate that. It's like and Patman asked what
we wanted to do. I mean, it's like what we
didn't want to do. I mean, we took her. We
took a lot of time getting the songs together. My
partner in crime, Daivy Ache, And you know, he's my
guitar player, one of he's one of my closest friends.
He's a great guitar player, great songwriter, and so when
(13:43):
it came to writing the songs, you know, we took
a lot of time putting the songs together and getting
and getting the kind of sound that we felt that
we wanted. And and it was one of those things
where it was like we wanted to keep true to
Heavy pain you know, we all the melodies and all
the harmonies and all that kind of stuff, you know,
(14:03):
and that's and it's not that hard to do with
my voice because obviously my voice goes through all the
different songs and I'm the guy, I'm the singer for
the old Heavy Paint to the new Heavy Painting. But
we wanted to keep as close to that kind of
thing as we could. But we still wanted to be
the kind of band that we wanted to be. You know,
we wanted to be heavier and everything else. But we
(14:26):
did not want to do was just for like you
see a lot of bands doing that, they just go
they just become that all of a sudden, become this
real heavy band, right, you know what I mean for
and it's like, wow, that was different. That's totally different
for where they used to be. And uh, and so
we we didn't really want to do that, but we
wanted to have that. We want to be able to
(14:49):
kind of straddle that fans properly where we had old
heavy painting, but then for the older fans and then
for newer fans, you know, just to keep it modern
and where they could relate more to that the sound
of the music and stuff. And so that's why you
use stuff, you know, the Faith Healer, which is an
example of you know, that's like basically a drop the
(15:09):
kind of real heavy heavy guitar kind of tune and
then you have all the malady and the harmonies, you know,
and the chorus and stuff like that. So but you know,
I appreciate you saying that, brother, thank.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
You my pleasure. I agree with what you said too,
because as somebody who's an old school metal head that
also like I like heavy, heavy and I also, like,
you know, just regular rock type heavy. But if a
band like yours all Suddens tried to sound like a
Slayer as an example, Yeah, yeah, I'm thinking you're faking
(15:45):
it because it was on that back then, if that
was your thing. So I'd rather a band stayed true
to their foundation, just build on that foundation.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, And that was and that was decisions that were
Dave and I sat and had talks about that. You know,
that was you know, we okay when we decided that,
because we'd already before Gordon to get one of the
original guitar players left, we'd been talking about, Okay, we're
going to do an album, and we'd already written a
(16:17):
bunch of songs. And then when he decided to call
it a day, you know, we Dave and I sat
there and we went, Okay, we still have all these
songs we've wrote together with Gordon and stuff. Do we
want to keep that or do you want to just
start afresh? And the two years just said now, hell,
let's just start afresh and then just come up with
(16:38):
a whole new batch of songs and and and that's
that's the way andy up. And I think the songs
have come across extremely well, you know, and I think
but as soon as people hear them, when the album
actually finally drops in October twenty fourth and people start
hearing all the songs, then I think everybody's going to
(16:59):
be sided, you know, and it's it's it's gonna be
a good thing.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah. Well, what what I love about the album is,
like I said, it does remind me of all you
But like the album is called rock Generation, I think
it's the new generation, not a new heavy pat and
it's just a new generation of heavy pet yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
That's what that's why we did it, you know, with Party.
You know, this is a new heavy pain new generation
of heavy painting, just like you said. But it's also, uh,
you know, rock generation is for everybody, for the rock fans,
for for other different decades of rock fans that are
growing up in common. And it's like, well this this
(17:42):
is a not that's a silly example, but but it's
really true. It's like when we were playing Europe, it's
like we would go be playing Germany, France, and I
mean we play everywhere in Europe the last five years
since we put the band back together, and and it's
amazing to see how many rock metal fans there is
at it, you know, at different ages, at younger ages
(18:05):
coming up. And so, like I said before, when we
would do meeting Greeks and we'd meet all these younger people,
it was like, thank god, does you know, I don't
know if it was like for me, just that was
registering for the first time and just going, thank God,
there's a there's a whole new generation of rock fans
coming up that's it's going to serve as well, it's
going to be great for rock music. And because they
(18:27):
would wear the exact same clothes as we used to
wear in the eighties, you know, in nineteen eighty one,
and I'd be like, damn man, this is crazy. And
then we really sealed the deal for me is when
we went and did the last tour in South America
and we're playing and bogutar. We're playing boguitar, and it
(18:49):
was it was just wild. And again we're doing these
big meet and Greek things and it's just thousands of
fans and they're talking to you, but they're all young,
and it's my god, this is a whole it is
it's a whole new generation coming up in dating the
guitar player was going, man, yees, it's a whole new
rock generation and we look, wow, that's a good table
(19:10):
for a song, you know. So that song and that's
how it simple, but that's how it all started with that.
I love it so and and like I said, it
just actually rock Generation was the last song that we
wrote it for the album, which was which was phenomenal
because everybody thought it was going to be done and
then we come out and say no, no, no, here,
(19:30):
we want to do this and and put it in
and it it was like the last nail in the
in the car as they say, you know what I mean,
it's a bum. Okay, this everything works well now I'm
happy with this.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
So it's a It's a perfect name too for everything
we've been talking about here, Like you're saying, you know,
it's exactly it describes it perfectly. And I had my
own experience what you're talking about, because you know, the
first time I started doing music festivals over in Europe
in the UK, I was like flabbergasted because there were
(20:07):
bands that I thought were gone all these years, and
they weren't gone. They were just playing in Europe because
the Europeans the way they love music, you know, and
they're not like trendy about it. You know, you turn
on the radio when you're driving through Europe and you're
hearing eighties music.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, no, it's it's it's cool. It's like you see,
And especially in a lot of the festivals that we
played in the summers and stuff, you meet a whole
bunch of different bands that had started at the same
time as us, like in eighteen eighty one something like that,
you know. And and just like you, I'd be sitting
(20:49):
there and going, oh wow, man, I thought he is
split up or something, you know what I mean. You're
playing It's like, oh wow, well that's good, you know.
And and and there was a couple of bands like that.
I won't the bands, but there was a couple of
me that I'd been friends with me back in the day.
And then I thought they'd called her day and they
never and they're like, no, no, we'be playing for years.
I was like, well, okay, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
It's wild. I love it.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
There's so many of them too, Like it's like I
went over there. It was like discovering new music that
wasn't new music. It was my old music that I
used to love that I thought didn't exist anymore.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's kind of it's a small thing,
small world, man, It's like, but it's awesome.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Even the idea of your fourteen date tour with Uriah
Heap and April Wine, I mean, yeah, that just brings
me right back to the eighties. And again, those are
bands that I know now are around, but I would
never have conceived them of still being around today if
(21:53):
I was just in that sheltered American you know.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, And you're right, he I mean, obviously you're right.
Hep were just an awesome band. They've been around from
the seventies and they've got some greats. I mean they have.
They've written great songs and and and they still have
a massive following all over the world, right, and so
they've been out for I would say that I didn't know,
because I think the new album, their new album, The
(22:20):
Magician's Farewell, I think it actually is like a farewell tour.
I'm not you know what I mean, I don't know.
It seems to go on, but but there they played
a whole bunch of shows when the album came out,
and then now we're and it's twenty five, and obviously
towards the end of twenty five now that we are,
(22:42):
so we're doing the European we're doing the first European
leg with them, and also we're starting twenty six with them.
We go back out in twenty six and do another
sixteen shows in Scandinavia and then then they'll be you know,
then who knows what happens after that, because obviously they're
going to come back out and they're going to come
(23:02):
to America and they're going to go they're going to
play all over in twenty six. So you know, it's
like seeing all these great bands. It's great to it's
great to go see them now because you know, a
you never know who's still going to be around and
be how long it's got, they're going to keep on playing,
you know. So if you got a chance and you
(23:23):
love live music, you know, catch all these bands, you know,
before they are just vanished and disappeared, right. I mean, look,
there's all the older bands that were all great. You know.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Yeah, look at Ozsie, you know, and what's amazing about
Ozzie is what we're talking about too, Like the whole
world in every generation is mourning his death, and that
just blows my mind. How great?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Oh yeah, I think I think Ossie transcended any kind
of little pigeonholes that you would want to put him in.
It's like everybody knew who Ozzy Osborne was, matter what
you did in your life. I'm sure there's a there
was a few people on the planet that really never
knew who it was, but most people and every planet
(24:10):
that were any music, and every country on the planet
knew who Ozzy Osborne was. You know, and on the
way from Black Sabbage t solo stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
So totally and so some bands too, like like and
to your point, some of them are even better live now.
Like I was just doing coverage for Hellfests and Scorpions
played and said, Scorpions, I can't even count how many times,
like I always you see him in the eighties all
the time. Their live show at Hellfest was probably the
(24:44):
best live show I've ever seen them do. I Mean,
I hate to say it, but I said it while
I was there. They played right after Priest and they
blew Priest away. And I've always loved Priests, so nothing
against Priests.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Oh I'm a huge priest fans a Scorpions, and I
love the Scorpions, and you know, it's but I guess
it's maybe maybe it's an angel thing. It's like, what
is it? People say it's like a fine wine, you
know what I mean, And and and and some people.
And obviously you have to be real lucky kids. I mean,
(25:17):
obviously the older you get and you're doing it, some
people don't. I'm not able to do it as good
as they used to be. But then there's other bands
that like the Scorpions, like Priests, you know, like Rob
Halford all that good God and they're just as great
as have ever been.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
But how does Halford have that voice still? Like there's
exactly can't do what he still does any different to
me than he did in the eighties.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
His voice, I mean, it's like it's just phenomenal to me.
And just let maybe you know what I mean. He
made him put on a better show now than they
did back in the day. Oh yeah, And they're awesome.
They're they are better now than they've ever been.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Oh yeah. I saw them headline download, Like I've seen
them a bunch of times, but when they had a
download in their own country, that was some serious live show,
and that was only a couple of years ago, like
last year.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
You know there, I love I love Maiden, I love
all of that. I love Priests, I mean, but then again,
you grew up with all those bands, you know what
I'm saying. Yeah, And and and even look at to
go on a different thing, look at Death Labor, you
know what I mean. It's like Death Labors are lightly
bigger now.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Than I've ever been, I think so. Yeah, Like it's
funny because back in the day I like them best
from their first album, which nobody probably knows of nowadays.
But you're right, they are better now. And you know,
just some of the bands, it's like they haven't even aged.
If you pay attention to just their music, Yeah, and
(26:55):
their live show. It's like wow, yeah, like I'm in
awe of that crap.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, no, I said, I got a man, It's it's amazing.
It's like, you know, I got a lot of respect.
I got a lot of respect for all those bands,
but I got held a lot of respect for Death Lever.
It's like they have stuck to their guns doing what
they do, and the vall has done it well and
done yeah great, and they they've just kept on going
doing what they do. Doesn't matter what MDL says, MDLS thinks,
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they just do it. And to the point now it's like,
you know, they have just a massive stadium band and
which which is absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
You know, it's amazing. I even like you'll love this.
A couple of weeks ago, I was doing a festival
and Ringo Star played, Oh Wow, and oh my god,
I have like one hundred and sixty bands. Ringo Stars
band was in my opinion and many others, the best
(27:55):
of the whole festival. And he's in mid eighties, and
he was running around stage and doing jumping jacks. I'm like,
that's why, that's my idol, you know, like that in
my eighties, you're my idol. If I do that in
my eighties, I mean, I'm that way now, but I'm
(28:15):
fifty eight. You know, it might be a whole different
story in mid eighties. Like so it's like I think
it's I think music too keeps you young, keeps you alot.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
No, that's I totally believe that. I believe that completely totally.
It's kept me young first, you know, I mean, cause
age is just a number, you know what. I mean,
when you're in the whole raw business and you doing
all that, it's like, it's it's it's pretty amazing.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
It does keep me young totally, and it is I
agree with the age. It's just a number because like
my youngest Stor, I'll bring her festivals with me sometimes
and she'll be like halfway through the first day. Dad,
I don't know how you do this every weekend because
I'm done and me like I'm out lasting everybody because
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it is the passion and the energy of music that
keeps us like this.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah, and that's what and that, you know what I mean.
I'm not I don't want to dog other kind of
forms of music or anthet like that, but it's like
rock music in metal and all that stuff is always
going to be here, you know what I mean, because
of the passion are the fans yeh, yeah, it's it's
it's just amazing.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
So you know, long may it continue, you know, absolutely,
and long may Heavy Patent continue because this album is
badass and everybody's got to go check it out and
check out your tour dates. Is there any other information
you want to give the listeners that they need to
know about what's going on? With you guys.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
No, just follow our socials and let us said, we'll
get the album drops on the twenty fourth of October.
Then we start the first party of the first leg
of the European tour with Urrai, and then at the
beginning of the year then we start our second leg
and in Scandinavia, and then we will just be playing
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everywhere and promoting that whole album. So keep up on
our socials to find out where we are and which
country we're going to be in because we mean to
promote this. Oh, you know, you never know what happens
in the future, but we expect to be out for
the whole twenty six you know, promoting this album before
we go back in the studio and do another one.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
So and so, now as your daughter think now that
you listen to.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Her, oh it's awesome. She's she's highly excited, you know
she is. And no, it's so this is this is
so funny. And as our oldest daughter her, she sent
a video the other day of my grandson and he's
seven or something and he's laying on the bed and
the our singles I was obviously we just dropped on
(31:02):
it two three weeks ago as the title track Rock Generation,
and he's playing on his sing but he's just the
song is playing on these laptops and and he's just
singing away.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
And I love it. It's a great grandkids are great,
Like I have one of my grandchild. I've taken like
several of my grandchildren to festivals with me, but one
of them one time, he's like, yeah, I'm a jew.
So he calls me Zady, which is grandfather and Jewish,
(31:35):
and he's like, ZAIDI take me to the stage.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Oh man, that is awesome.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Uh yeah, it's it's great to be able to share
what we love with our kids and our grandkids because definitely, definitely,
it's it's so cool to be able to share this
when we weren't able to share it with our parents.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
You know, no, no, it's all yeah. I agree.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
So I love it, and I I attribute it to
bands like you that are keeping this alive and showing
that it's multi generational and that there is no timeline
to rock and roll and metal.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
No, bell, I appreciate that. Man. Thank you so much
for your support.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I really do well. Thank you for giving us the music,
and thanks for being on the adventures of pipe man.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Well take a light my brother there. Appreciate you taking
the time you have me on my close. We never
we played close. We just need to make sure we
get in touch, so you can come to one of.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
The shows totally and anything. I'll look out for what
festivals you're on because I do a whole bunch of them.
So there's one cool, there's one here in the States
you should look into that's good for your type of band.
Is rock Klahoma is one that I do and okay
like those yeah, as all the legacy eighties bands.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
I will pass that along and hopefully we will see
you hanging out getting of you my friend.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
I hope so too.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
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Speaker 3 (00:53):
Channel, this is the pipe Man here on the Adventures
pipe Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm gonna
tell you about their next guest. My next guest is
because oh my god, it's like one of the longest
hiatus in history, and I'm very excited about the new music.
You know it is funny. Okay, So first I'll just
(01:14):
say this is Amy from Heavy Patton and I had
an interview recently with band a band that I was
friends with when I was a teenager and I haven't
seen since, and they just came out with a new album.
And then there you go another bet in their beat
and they were Savage Grace and their band Dark Angel.
(01:35):
They just came out with a new album. It seems
to be the trend nowadays that all the bands from
way back are all playing out new music now and
actually touring and everything. It's like it's like they never left.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
It's like, yeah, I've made a bunch of different people
in different bands on tours and stuff that are all
back together, just like cousin not playing and stuff. And well,
I mean everybody, it's the best gig in the world.
Play man, that's it, brother, it's everybody wants to be
back out playing, And especially if you've got songs, especially
(02:13):
if you've got songs that you really did didn't think
the world needs to hear and think that you can
still deliver. So I think that's the big key. If
I failed, that our songs were terrible or we couldn't
cut it live, then I wouldn't be back out playing,
you know.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
And that's because you're a true artist. And as a
true artist, we're our own worst critic.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Oh yeah, definitely, definitely yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
And I you know, it's funny because what's cool about too,
is so I do radio coverage at festivals all over
the US, UK, Europe. Just got back from a few,
And what I love nowadays is bands like yours, bands
like you know that are in our age group. Younger
(03:01):
generations are into like I remember being a teenageer going
to see bands on that Sunset strip in LA in
the eighties and I would never go see a band
of people my age now, And yet kids love it.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
So yeah, yeah, it's it is pretty cool. It's pretty
amazing that, you know, a lot of the shows that
we play and you do the meet and Greeks after
and all this kind of stuff, and people are talking
to you. You know, it's just amazing. You know that
they started playing, you know, they started getting into everything
(03:37):
because of you and everything else, and you know, it's
it's in the different age groups are just absolutely amazing
to me at the moment because it's like you get
people that are our age, you know, you get people
that are sixty, you get people in your fiftiest, people
in your forties, thirties, and they even way down till
in the teens because their mom and dad have been
(04:00):
playing our music or whoever's music, and these kids have
been digging that and then they want to go out
and see other live acts, which is absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Well see, I think that's what's the key too, because
like myself, I've brought my son and my daughters and
my grandkids to festivals and concerts of my music. But
yet there's no way in a million years my dad
would have ever gone to any show I wanted to
(04:29):
go to. And I think that's the difference. Our parents
were into a very different type of music, whereas it
seems now that the the rock metal hard rock is
like multi generational now, which it wasn't when I was.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Oh god, yeah, no, it definitely is multi generation. And
now I agree with your kids. Look my dad, you
know what I mean. I don't think I think my dad.
I think the first time I think my dad came
me at one show when we were back in the
day doing more thing and we headlined the Apollo in
Glasgow and that was the big place. That was where
(05:09):
we all went to see bands. Is that was a
kid growing up. That's where I saw Queen mat who Slid,
dig Bowie t Rex, you know, priests, I mean everybody
really And so when I played there, head Lane there
and my dad and that came, my family came and
that was one of the shows that he came in.
But I don't really remember him being here, you know,
(05:31):
he never really came here kind of stuff. Whereas my kids,
I have a daughter on the son, and they go
to the they go to shows and they come here there.
You know, they're looking forward to us company too in America,
so they can come to the shows. So it's a
totally different thing now, brother.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Oh yeah, And I think it's great because it's just
made rock like bigger and better than effort.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Hell yeah, yeah, definitely, I totally agree with that. It's
it's it's it's pretty amazing to see and you know,
and you see all the younger, younger faces in the
crowd and all that any other music, and it's and
then you get the chance to meet them after and
it's it's it's pretty awesome. I really dig it.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
So my question is, is what is it that lit
the spark after a triple decade hiatus.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Well, I think it was. Actually I was I'd moved
to well, I've loved in America for a long time,
but I moved to Florida and I was sitting on
the beach with my with my one of my daughters
then and and she was just talking about Dad, you
need to put the band back together in deada dead Dad,
(06:50):
And I was lit, Man, there's no chance of that.
None of us like each other. You know, we haven't
spoke to each other since. I mean the last time
we all spoke to each other was in two thousand
and seven, where the Japanese everybody always wanted to put
us back together, and for whatever reason, nobody would. Nobody
would do it, but we're on different places.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
And then the.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Japanese getting touchway is and they offered a whole bunch
of money and an album and a tour, and we
all thought about it and said, yeah, yeah, let's do it.
And then after the initial phone call was one by one,
we all started bailing again, and because you know, the
old problems, we're all surfacing and so we ended up
walking away from it. And then fast forward to twenty sixteen.
(07:37):
The end of twenty sixteen, my daughter was talking to
me and I said, you know, you're right. I see
a lot of bands getting back together. I said, let
me think about it. And then I made the initial
phone call to Gary the drummer, or named Gordon, the
guitar player, and they get in touch with Punky and
Brian and everything seemed to be a girl. And then
(08:00):
we set out a time that I said, Okay, I'll
flight London and we'll meet up in the studio and
we'll rehearse and see how everybody feels and that kind
of stuff. And so by the time I got on
the plane and I arrived, we were down like two guys.
(08:20):
It was like, well, what the hell, and so we
ended up getting two other people and and that was it.
That really was the whole thing. Eventually the original people
except me decided they didn't want to do it, and
so I kept on filling those spots. You know, we're
finding really good musicians and until I get to to
(08:41):
where we are now, and it's like, I really believe
everything happens for a reason. Yeah, and we are now
at the best part of Heavy Peyton has ever been.
You know, we're a much better band live. Everybody's a
great musician, and we've did some great I mean, we're right,
great songs and the album is fantastic. So I know
(09:04):
I'm not dogging what we did before, but I think
it's like everything everything moves forward, and back in the
day we were great and fantastic, but I think there
was a you know, time to get it's tall, and
it was now set for this new version of Heavy Paint,
which I think is just faster, stronger, tougher and ready wrong.
(09:28):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Well, you know what I think the key to that
is is the fact that you know, basically, you get
to a certain stage light in life and some things
are set aside that allow you to get along with
people in a band that you hand pick better than
then the people you started with when you were teenagers.
(09:51):
That you grow up and then you don't really like
each other, like I would never ninety nine percent of
people I hung out with as a teenager would never
hang out with today.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, that's actually a good equation about it. Yeah, it
really is. You wouldn't, you know. And we had a
great team, don't get me wrong. We had an awesometimes
sale millions of albums, doing whatever term the world away everybody,
and but you know, eventually things happen, and that's what
happened to be is after about ten years a tour
(10:23):
of recording tour and recording tour and recording touring, it was,
it just took its toll, and we just did not
like each other. You know.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
That's what ends up happening. I think when you're spending
that much time with people that maybe you grew apart from,
that's what kind of happens, is the way I look
at it.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, it is, you know, and everybody had different entry.
I mean we are from nineteen eighty to nineteen ninety,
it was like by the time nineteen ninety came, everybody
had different ideas of what they who they wanted to be,
what they wanted to do, and you know, and a
lot that just didn't mesh with the five of us
(11:03):
because we all had different aspirations about what we wanted
to do musically, bandwise, everything.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
So, yeah, you gotta be on the same page bottom line,
you know, especially if you're gonna go do tour dates
and spend time in the studio, like you have to
like each other.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's that's a that is a plus,
and that's a that's a big prerethquisard for me. Now
I need you like all the people I'm hanging that way.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I go and spend time, you know exactly, And I
love it that was your daughter's idea because that just
go Hammer's home the point I talked about in the beginning,
Like if my dad said, let's say he had a
band when he was younger, I don't think I ever
said to him, hey, you should get the band back together.
I'd be like that really be like really okay, you know,
(11:56):
forget it. That was your path, so truly cool. I
think it's really cool your daughter did that.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Like it is. She still takes a lot, she still
takes the credit for it.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I love I love it. Well, of course she does.
Mine went too. So wait, you can't see my whole shirt.
But my youngest store boy for me, it said, said,
you can't scare me. I have three daughters.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Oh that's true.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Right. We're in Florida, by the way, because that's where
I'm at. That's where I'm in my studio in Florida.
Right now, I'm in the Panhandle.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I'm in a little place called a Mexico beach.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Okay. Yeah, the daughter that bought me this, she lives
up by Navarre. She's on the turtle team in thevar beach.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
So not far oh okay, yeah, yeah, so that's cool.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah, I'm in South Florida, where it's a lot crazier.
We call where you are southern Alabama. We don't even
call that Florida road tide right oh man. So yeah,
I was listening to a new album and man, it
is tight. It is really really good, and you know,
(13:13):
it's modern, but it brings me back to those feelings
in the eighties like that, thank you good.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, I appreciate that. It's like and Patman asked what
we wanted to do. I mean, it's like what we
didn't want to do. I mean, we took her. We
took a lot of time getting the songs together. My
partner in crime, Daivy Ache, And you know, he's my
guitar player, one of he's one of my closest friends.
He's a great guitar player, great songwriter, and so when
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it came to writing the songs, you know, we took
a lot of time putting the songs together and getting
and getting the kind of sound that we felt that
we wanted. And and it was one of those things
where it was like we wanted to keep true to
Heavy pain you know, we all the melodies and all
the harmonies and all that kind of stuff, you know,
(14:03):
and that's and it's not that hard to do with
my voice because obviously my voice goes through all the
different songs and I'm the guy, I'm the singer for
the old Heavy Paint to the new Heavy Painting. But
we wanted to keep as close to that kind of
thing as we could. But we still wanted to be
the kind of band that we wanted to be. You know,
we wanted to be heavier and everything else. But we
(14:26):
did not want to do was just for like you
see a lot of bands doing that, they just go
they just become that all of a sudden, become this
real heavy band, right, you know what I mean for
and it's like, wow, that was different. That's totally different
for where they used to be. And uh, and so
we we didn't really want to do that, but we
wanted to have that. We want to be able to
(14:49):
kind of straddle that fans properly where we had old
heavy painting, but then for the older fans and then
for newer fans, you know, just to keep it modern
and where they could relate more to that the sound
of the music and stuff. And so that's why you
use stuff, you know, the Faith Healer, which is an
example of you know, that's like basically a drop the
(15:09):
kind of real heavy heavy guitar kind of tune and
then you have all the malady and the harmonies, you know,
and the chorus and stuff like that. So but you know,
I appreciate you saying that, brother, thank.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
You my pleasure. I agree with what you said too,
because as somebody who's an old school metal head that
also like I like heavy, heavy and I also, like,
you know, just regular rock type heavy. But if a
band like yours all Suddens tried to sound like a
Slayer as an example, Yeah, yeah, I'm thinking you're faking
(15:45):
it because it was on that back then, if that
was your thing. So I'd rather a band stayed true
to their foundation, just build on that foundation.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, And that was and that was decisions that were
Dave and I sat and had talks about that. You know,
that was you know, we okay when we decided that,
because we'd already before Gordon to get one of the
original guitar players left, we'd been talking about, Okay, we're
going to do an album, and we'd already written a
(16:17):
bunch of songs. And then when he decided to call
it a day, you know, we Dave and I sat
there and we went, Okay, we still have all these
songs we've wrote together with Gordon and stuff. Do we
want to keep that or do you want to just
start afresh? And the two years just said now, hell,
let's just start afresh and then just come up with
(16:38):
a whole new batch of songs and and and that's
that's the way andy up. And I think the songs
have come across extremely well, you know, and I think
but as soon as people hear them, when the album
actually finally drops in October twenty fourth and people start
hearing all the songs, then I think everybody's going to
(16:59):
be sided, you know, and it's it's it's gonna be
a good thing.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah. Well, what what I love about the album is,
like I said, it does remind me of all you
But like the album is called rock Generation, I think
it's the new generation, not a new heavy pat and
it's just a new generation of heavy pet yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
That's what that's why we did it, you know, with Party.
You know, this is a new heavy pain new generation
of heavy painting, just like you said. But it's also, uh,
you know, rock generation is for everybody, for the rock fans,
for for other different decades of rock fans that are
growing up in common. And it's like, well this this
(17:42):
is a not that's a silly example, but but it's
really true. It's like when we were playing Europe, it's
like we would go be playing Germany, France, and I
mean we play everywhere in Europe the last five years
since we put the band back together, and and it's
amazing to see how many rock metal fans there is
at it, you know, at different ages, at younger ages
(18:05):
coming up. And so, like I said before, when we
would do meeting Greeks and we'd meet all these younger people,
it was like, thank god, does you know, I don't
know if it was like for me, just that was
registering for the first time and just going, thank God,
there's a there's a whole new generation of rock fans
coming up that's it's going to serve as well, it's
going to be great for rock music. And because they
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would wear the exact same clothes as we used to
wear in the eighties, you know, in nineteen eighty one,
and I'd be like, damn man, this is crazy. And
then we really sealed the deal for me is when
we went and did the last tour in South America
and we're playing and bogutar. We're playing boguitar, and it
(18:49):
was it was just wild. And again we're doing these
big meet and Greek things and it's just thousands of
fans and they're talking to you, but they're all young,
and it's my god, this is a whole it is
it's a whole new generation coming up in dating the
guitar player was going, man, yees, it's a whole new
rock generation and we look, wow, that's a good table
(19:10):
for a song, you know. So that song and that's
how it simple, but that's how it all started with that.
I love it so and and like I said, it
just actually rock Generation was the last song that we
wrote it for the album, which was which was phenomenal
because everybody thought it was going to be done and
then we come out and say no, no, no, here,
(19:30):
we want to do this and and put it in
and it it was like the last nail in the
in the car as they say, you know what I mean,
it's a bum. Okay, this everything works well now I'm
happy with this.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
So it's a It's a perfect name too for everything
we've been talking about here, Like you're saying, you know,
it's exactly it describes it perfectly. And I had my
own experience what you're talking about, because you know, the
first time I started doing music festivals over in Europe
in the UK, I was like flabbergasted because there were
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bands that I thought were gone all these years, and
they weren't gone. They were just playing in Europe because
the Europeans the way they love music, you know, and
they're not like trendy about it. You know, you turn
on the radio when you're driving through Europe and you're
hearing eighties music.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, no, it's it's it's cool. It's like you see,
And especially in a lot of the festivals that we
played in the summers and stuff, you meet a whole
bunch of different bands that had started at the same
time as us, like in eighteen eighty one something like that,
you know. And and just like you, I'd be sitting
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there and going, oh wow, man, I thought he is
split up or something, you know what I mean. You're
playing It's like, oh wow, well that's good, you know.
And and and there was a couple of bands like that.
I won't the bands, but there was a couple of
me that I'd been friends with me back in the day.
And then I thought they'd called her day and they
never and they're like, no, no, we'be playing for years.
I was like, well, okay, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
It's wild. I love it.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
There's so many of them too, Like it's like I
went over there. It was like discovering new music that
wasn't new music. It was my old music that I
used to love that I thought didn't exist anymore.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's kind of it's a small thing,
small world, man, It's like, but it's awesome.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Even the idea of your fourteen date tour with Uriah
Heap and April Wine, I mean, yeah, that just brings
me right back to the eighties. And again, those are
bands that I know now are around, but I would
never have conceived them of still being around today if
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I was just in that sheltered American you know.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, And you're right, he I mean, obviously you're right.
Hep were just an awesome band. They've been around from
the seventies and they've got some greats. I mean they have.
They've written great songs and and and they still have
a massive following all over the world, right, and so
they've been out for I would say that I didn't know,
because I think the new album, their new album, The
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Magician's Farewell, I think it actually is like a farewell tour.
I'm not you know what I mean, I don't know.
It seems to go on, but but there they played
a whole bunch of shows when the album came out,
and then now we're and it's twenty five, and obviously
towards the end of twenty five now that we are,
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so we're doing the European we're doing the first European
leg with them, and also we're starting twenty six with them.
We go back out in twenty six and do another
sixteen shows in Scandinavia and then then they'll be you know,
then who knows what happens after that, because obviously they're
going to come back out and they're going to come
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to America and they're going to go they're going to
play all over in twenty six. So you know, it's
like seeing all these great bands. It's great to it's
great to go see them now because you know, a
you never know who's still going to be around and
be how long it's got, they're going to keep on playing,
you know. So if you got a chance and you
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love live music, you know, catch all these bands, you know,
before they are just vanished and disappeared, right. I mean, look,
there's all the older bands that were all great. You know.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Yeah, look at Ozsie, you know, and what's amazing about
Ozzie is what we're talking about too, Like the whole
world in every generation is mourning his death, and that
just blows my mind. How great?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Oh yeah, I think I think Ossie transcended any kind
of little pigeonholes that you would want to put him in.
It's like everybody knew who Ozzy Osborne was, matter what
you did in your life. I'm sure there's a there
was a few people on the planet that really never
knew who it was, but most people and every planet
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that were any music, and every country on the planet
knew who Ozzy Osborne was. You know, and on the
way from Black Sabbage t solo stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
So totally and so some bands too, like like and
to your point, some of them are even better live now.
Like I was just doing coverage for Hellfests and Scorpions
played and said, Scorpions, I can't even count how many times,
like I always you see him in the eighties all
the time. Their live show at Hellfest was probably the
(24:44):
best live show I've ever seen them do. I Mean,
I hate to say it, but I said it while
I was there. They played right after Priest and they
blew Priest away. And I've always loved Priests, so nothing
against Priests.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Oh I'm a huge priest fans a Scorpions, and I
love the Scorpions, and you know, it's but I guess
it's maybe maybe it's an angel thing. It's like, what
is it? People say it's like a fine wine, you
know what I mean, And and and and some people.
And obviously you have to be real lucky kids. I mean,
(25:17):
obviously the older you get and you're doing it, some
people don't. I'm not able to do it as good
as they used to be. But then there's other bands
that like the Scorpions, like Priests, you know, like Rob
Halford all that good God and they're just as great
as have ever been.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
But how does Halford have that voice still? Like there's
exactly can't do what he still does any different to
me than he did in the eighties.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
His voice, I mean, it's like it's just phenomenal to me.
And just let maybe you know what I mean. He
made him put on a better show now than they
did back in the day. Oh yeah, And they're awesome.
They're they are better now than they've ever been.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Oh yeah. I saw them headline download, Like I've seen
them a bunch of times, but when they had a
download in their own country, that was some serious live show,
and that was only a couple of years ago, like
last year.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
You know there, I love I love Maiden, I love
all of that. I love Priests, I mean, but then again,
you grew up with all those bands, you know what
I'm saying. Yeah, And and and even look at to
go on a different thing, look at Death Labor, you
know what I mean. It's like Death Labors are lightly
bigger now.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Than I've ever been, I think so. Yeah, Like it's
funny because back in the day I like them best
from their first album, which nobody probably knows of nowadays.
But you're right, they are better now. And you know,
just some of the bands, it's like they haven't even aged.
If you pay attention to just their music, Yeah, and
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their live show. It's like wow, yeah, like I'm in
awe of that crap.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, no, I said, I got a man, It's it's amazing.
It's like, you know, I got a lot of respect.
I got a lot of respect for all those bands,
but I got held a lot of respect for Death Lever.
It's like they have stuck to their guns doing what
they do, and the vall has done it well and
done yeah great, and they they've just kept on going
doing what they do. Doesn't matter what MDL says, MDLS thinks,
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they just do it. And to the point now it's like,
you know, they have just a massive stadium band and
which which is absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
You know, it's amazing. I even like you'll love this.
A couple of weeks ago, I was doing a festival
and Ringo Star played, Oh Wow, and oh my god,
I have like one hundred and sixty bands. Ringo Stars
band was in my opinion and many others, the best
(27:55):
of the whole festival. And he's in mid eighties, and
he was running around stage and doing jumping jacks. I'm like,
that's why, that's my idol, you know, like that in
my eighties, you're my idol. If I do that in
my eighties, I mean, I'm that way now, but I'm
(28:15):
fifty eight. You know, it might be a whole different
story in mid eighties. Like so it's like I think
it's I think music too keeps you young, keeps you alot.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
No, that's I totally believe that. I believe that completely totally.
It's kept me young first, you know, I mean, cause
age is just a number, you know what. I mean,
when you're in the whole raw business and you doing
all that, it's like, it's it's it's pretty amazing.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
It does keep me young totally, and it is I
agree with the age. It's just a number because like
my youngest Stor, I'll bring her festivals with me sometimes
and she'll be like halfway through the first day. Dad,
I don't know how you do this every weekend because
I'm done and me like I'm out lasting everybody because
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it is the passion and the energy of music that
keeps us like this.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah, and that's what and that, you know what I mean.
I'm not I don't want to dog other kind of
forms of music or anthet like that, but it's like
rock music in metal and all that stuff is always
going to be here, you know what I mean, because
of the passion are the fans yeh, yeah, it's it's
it's just amazing.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
So you know, long may it continue, you know, absolutely,
and long may Heavy Patent continue because this album is
badass and everybody's got to go check it out and
check out your tour dates. Is there any other information
you want to give the listeners that they need to
know about what's going on? With you guys.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
No, just follow our socials and let us said, we'll
get the album drops on the twenty fourth of October.
Then we start the first party of the first leg
of the European tour with Urrai, and then at the
beginning of the year then we start our second leg
and in Scandinavia, and then we will just be playing
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everywhere and promoting that whole album. So keep up on
our socials to find out where we are and which
country we're going to be in because we mean to
promote this. Oh, you know, you never know what happens
in the future, but we expect to be out for
the whole twenty six you know, promoting this album before
we go back in the studio and do another one.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
So and so, now as your daughter think now that
you listen to.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Her, oh it's awesome. She's she's highly excited, you know
she is. And no, it's so this is this is
so funny. And as our oldest daughter her, she sent
a video the other day of my grandson and he's
seven or something and he's laying on the bed and
the our singles I was obviously we just dropped on
(31:02):
it two three weeks ago as the title track Rock Generation,
and he's playing on his sing but he's just the
song is playing on these laptops and and he's just
singing away.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
And I love it. It's a great grandkids are great,
Like I have one of my grandchild. I've taken like
several of my grandchildren to festivals with me, but one
of them one time, he's like, yeah, I'm a jew.
So he calls me Zady, which is grandfather and Jewish,
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and he's like, ZAIDI take me to the stage.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Oh man, that is awesome.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Uh yeah, it's it's great to be able to share
what we love with our kids and our grandkids because definitely, definitely,
it's it's so cool to be able to share this
when we weren't able to share it with our parents.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
You know, no, no, it's all yeah. I agree.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
So I love it, and I I attribute it to
bands like you that are keeping this alive and showing
that it's multi generational and that there is no timeline
to rock and roll and metal.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
No, bell, I appreciate that. Man. Thank you so much
for your support.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I really do well. Thank you for giving us the music,
and thanks for being on the adventures of pipe man.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Well take a light my brother there. Appreciate you taking
the time you have me on my close. We never
we played close. We just need to make sure we
get in touch, so you can come to one of.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
The shows totally and anything. I'll look out for what
festivals you're on because I do a whole bunch of them.
So there's one cool, there's one here in the States
you should look into that's good for your type of band.
Is rock Klahoma is one that I do and okay
like those yeah, as all the legacy eighties bands.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
I will pass that along and hopefully we will see
you hanging out getting of you my friend.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
I hope so too.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Hey guys, this is hem Me from Heavy Pam and
you're listening to the Pipeline on W four c Y Radio.
Thank you for listening to the adventures of Patemn. I'm
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