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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey, you Lunt's sure four see ww crazy young.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures of
Pipe Man W four c Y Radio, and I'm here
with Islander.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Islander nice. I like how you did that? Can you
like do it like a song like that?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Right right now?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, right now? Make up a song.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Thank you Danny Wemmer for having us.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
We should do it every year at every festival, festival
every day. I heard I heard the next announcement at
an announcement at five. The next announcement is that Danny
Wimmer is gonna come out and say that Islander is
gonna play every Danny Wimmer festival for the next ten years.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
That's what we've heard. We've heard that and we're totally
down with it. If that's what he wants it, we're
all good with him.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
How about if we just have a festival where you
just you're the band that plays all day long, like
you just have different sets.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I have to work out a little bit. We were
just discussing that. I was like, I gotta get in
shape first, right like a jam band, though, like we're
not a jam band, Like we'd have to scream all day.
Like I couldn't do it.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, you could jam the scream, yet that would be
tough to scream all day. I don't even know how
you do it. Like I used sing thresh meadow, and
now I did it wrong. There was no technique way
back when. So now I can't even get through a
song because and then my voice is gone.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
You always tell people if your throat is hurting after
you get done playing, you're doing something wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Exactly like I am always in awe of you guys
that you can do like a whole set singing like that,
because it's true. Like, yes, it's I did it wrong
for a long time and it didn't work. Somebody shad
told me that. Well too late now, right, But you guys, no,
(02:06):
it's I have this idea now though, Like so what
I'm gonna do is I gonna start banned. I'm gonna
wear masks because it's the popular thing now, and it's
gonna be a mask of a teenager, so that maybe
it will be me as a teenager. And then like
as I start to trend and get big that I'm
getting on stage, like kiss, I'll rip off the mask.
(02:29):
I'll be like a fuckers, I'm fifty eight. That's pretty funny, right,
it is a little crapy. That's why i'ven't done it. Guys.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
See there you go, Iria fans.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
If I see somebody start doing that, I'm gonna be like,
I think that's him.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
And I could even wear my eighties battlefest from when
I was that that I curate. Yes, So when I
walked in, I saw that. I see that's cool. I
love that.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
This is so like, forget the pre made ones. Man,
I put all my blood in sweat and literally blood
and sweat. There's blood on there. Venom wowe Right, if
you loved I've never had, you could be the first
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ann bro.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
So what happened is it's been in my closet for
years and I decided last year, you know what, this
is perfect for interviews because like a lot of bands
geek out on this and like that. In June, I
was interviewing Gene Hoagland and so I pulled it out
and Dark Angel has a new album and they're on tour,
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so I was like, do you recognize that logo the
hen and then Exodus one of the other bands, said wow,
that's their original logo, Like they played here at lar
in Life and that's not their logo anymore.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Slayers didn't even have a patch yet.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So I did that and I was in LA and
people were like, we're thinking I was a gang banger
and that was my gang name.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Oh my gosh wow.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
And then like Winston of Parkway Drive, he was geeking
out the whole thing, the whole interview, and basically he's
like that Metalica. When did Metallica have a logo like that?
So I have a trivia question for you. Then, okay,
what is that logo from? Oh no, no, it's something
(04:36):
very specific, the Devil. Yes, it's a very specific reason
for that logo on a Mentallica patch. I'll give you
a hint. It's a song. It's a song on kill
them All.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Don't make us look bad? Bro.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I think I already did. I think I already did
Jump in the Fire. That's a jump in the Fire logo.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I've never seen that before.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, see most haven't. It's because I'm fucking old. I
was at their first show ever, in Slayers, first show ever?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Are you serious?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah? Total?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
The craziest thing that ever happened to you while you
were wearing.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
This, I'll tell you flip it over okay, okay, and
so on this side over here there's blood because I
was at Okay. So this is one of those great
moments that you tell your kids' stories. They think you're
exaggerating and you're full of shit, and then you get proof.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Okay, so you didn't sacrifice somebody. No, Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
That was another time. I wasn't wearing the vest. And
so what I did was I was at a Savage
Grace show. They were a thrashband in the eighties that
they haven't been around till a couple of years ago.
They put on a new album, like the first one
in like thirty years. So I climbed up on their
marshall stack. I got up on stage, climbed up on
the marshall stack as security was chasing me, and I
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did the swan. And as I was midair, the crowd
spread out and not to form a mash pit, and
I was like, oh foh, and I went te first
into the floor and then my friend did pick up
my teeth and put him on ice.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
And this other girl we were with, she came out.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
She was all so thirsty and she grabbed a cup
and she started to drink, and he's like, no, those.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Are Dean's teeth.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Did she swallow them?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Now?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
She didn't drink him, thank god. And it's the first
time I didn't want her to swallow.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, yeah, I had.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I wasn't gonna go there, but I was more concerned
of how So I'll give you an example my dog.
I have a Chihuahua, and he used to do this
thing where he would grab our remote control for the TV.
And one time he finally got one of the buttons
out and he swallowed it. Well, I needed the button back,
so I waited till he pooped. I got it, I
cleaned it off, and then it did it again. And
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then I got it back, and I did it again.
I cleaned it all, and I just kept thinking, well,
that thing went all the way through him is kind
of gross. I gotta push the button. I make sure
to clean it really good. I'm not just like squishing
dog poop every time I look at the TV.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Here's why I gotta say, like, it happened once, maybe twice.
You didn't think it got read of a button so
the dog couldn't do that.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Well, he's crazy. He's calmed down a little bit since then.
We have a new TV that has a different remote,
so we're good.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Now, Okay, there you go.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yes, I have an actual baby. Now, oh wife had
a baby. Rat We had the baby, but she did
the pushing and I was there.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Right, you couldn't tribute it because there's no woman on
earth that's gonna say you both had the baby. So
you have to say you couldn't tribute it.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Well, I just I contributed, and I've like, dude, it's
so awesome. I've been so excited being a daddy, Like
it's I can't wait to bring him on the road,
That's all I gotta say.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I love that because that's what's cool about today's music. Yeah,
it's like all these bands are bringing their kids on
the road and we're getting new generations of music lovers
that didn't happen way back when my dad would have
never taken me to a Slayer show.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Are you freaking getting me? Yeah? So it's kind of
cool nowadays. Like I've put my son and three.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Of my grandsons into their first mashpit ever, that's a
proud moment, man like, and how cool is their granddad
that they're bringing him to a metal show?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
The day that I see my little boy do a
flip off the stage into the crowd. I'm gonna be
really happy.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Dude, as long as he doesn't knock out his teeth.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
As long as he doesn't knock out his tea, because
that's not fust.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I'm here to tell you it's not fun. It's not fun.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And look at this. Somebody asked today what band is that.
I'm like, it's not band that says no posers.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Oh dude, I haven't heard the word poser in forever.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Right, that's how dated that is, dude, that's so sick.
So if you look at.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
All the bands I drew on there and I did
dry draw those, which one would you want to go
on tour with?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Well, I'm just gonna go and say Metallica of it,
because does it get any bigger? Catering at Metallica tour
would have to be crazy. Also, like, I don't know,
it's Metallica. You have to go on tour Metallica, Mantis?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Let me see. Oh that's a new one. That's a
new one.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
That was a bloodstock I think, oh yeah, those are
three members of what band was that?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I don't even know. I'm like they wanted to be
on there, so I'm like, oh, ahead, draw it on there.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
We would, Yeah, we would. We played with them, I know,
Mike Mirror, I would tour with Slayer. Yeah, that would
be sick. We'd have to pull out every single heavy
song we have, but we can do it.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
One Mike Mirror story.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, okay. So I've interviewed him a few times. But
one time, several years ago, we were on the tour bus.
We're in an interview. In the middle of the interview,
he gets a texta message, gets up and walks off
the bus and just leaves me there. Nobody saw him.
Nobody saw him til showtime. Now, as funny as that sounds,
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the reason he did that was not funny. He got
the text that Jeff Hanneman died during that interview.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Oh Man Wild Like, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
And yeah, so I went to the first crossover show
ever where punks and metal heads could be in the
same room, and it was suicidal on the punk side
before they were crossover, you know, in coc pre Pepper.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I haven't there one that I haven't seen because back
in the day, I couldn't go to punk shows because
I was a long hair and you got your ass
beat if you're saying, so, I've seen a lot of
my favorite punk bands now, like like Misfits, like the Exploited,
like GBH, like Discharge. None of them was I able
to see back then. Mes Fitz maybe, but and d R.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I love. There's a reason I can go to shows.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
What's your take on, like how divided things were back then? Though?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Like do you look back at that?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Was it like a were people wasting their time?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I think it was stupid. I don't tell you why.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I think it's stupid, Okay, because first of all, we
all liked both metal punk, so why could we not
go to each other shows? And then it's so stupid
that I went and got my spikes at Displaced Posers
on Melrose.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
But it was a punk place.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
So I brought my two punk friends who were friends
with the owners, and we walk in and like literally
a minute later, my friends come up to me and
they're like, we gotta leave. I'm like why, and they're like,
we'll tell you outside. We need to leave now.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
And apparently what happened was is the owners walked up
to them like we're giving you a curzy because you're
friends of ours. Get the fucking long hair out of here,
or we're gonna kick it. We're gonna kick his ass.
Now that's stupid. I was gonna spend money in your store.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
More on.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
But but what's worse is we were small groups, not
like now. You wouldn't have a festival like this. Like
I went to a festival like this in the eighties
called the US Festival.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Heavy Metal Day.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
The headliner was Van Hallen Triumph played like that's not
heavy metal Day. But here's the thing is that we
were small groups similar music. The jocks were bullying both
of our groups. Why didn't we band together and kick
the shit out of them instead of each other?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Like?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
What the hell was wrong with us? What's wrong with
the gatekeeping?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I believe a as a fan, I should like whatever
music I want and if I like something else, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
And you as the artist should be able to play
whatever music you.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Want and not being you can only play micro death metal, hardcore,
post punk.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Rock.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I think something cool about now at the times, you know,
we've had all that music bleed over into each other,
so you know, whether it be the thrash, hip hop, punk,
like everything's kind of it's all rock and roll, exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
That's why I love.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
We could go out there in that festival and everybody
is an outsider in the outside world, and everybody's an
insider here, and that's what I love. I love that
I could be at a festival like this, go to
a metal band, go to a hip hop band, go
to a pop punk band.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Go to a hardcore band, all in one day. Yeah,
Like that's the way it should be.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
We're all just out here trying to have some fun
when everybody enjoy what they enjoy.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
So exactly tell us about what you feel your music
contributes to that, to where you're melding us all together.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
For us, we actually we kind of look at it
like club members. That's kind of what we've been calling
it lately. It's like the idea of this whole heavy
hearts thing that people have, Like I see so much
pain in the world. I see so much that everybody's
going through, and we just want to be an outlet
for people to know. Look, man, I don't care what
you believe. I still love you, and I think that's
what the world needs right now. Told me we're because
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we're seeing everybody. Everybody's seeing the news, everybody's getting canceled
and shot and this and that, and it's like, dude,
like once that conversation stops, that's when the violence starts.
We want the conversation to continue. Everybody get to share
their peace and let's hear each other out and like
where's your heart? Like where's your heart this week? What
happened this week that was good or bad? We want
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to celebrate or morn with you.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I love that, Yeah, because that's what it's all about. Man.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Music is the best therapy there is for you, the artists,
for me, the listener, and you know what, let's just
all be in therapy together.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
In fact, I have a solution to the world's problems.
You want to hear my solution.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
What's your solution?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
One major music festival where the whole world that's required
to attend, Okay, and we'll work it all out in
the pit, man, and then we could all just love
each other.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
The whole world is an obligation.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, you all have to at test, like you're all
required to attend, and then you're all we can all
just work it up.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
We can all just work it out.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I feel so bad for like there'd be like the
one band though that nobody went and saw and they're like, dude,
the whole world's here and nobody set my set still
right like until bad.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Let's hope it's not islander.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
That would never happen though, because you guys are too
fricking cool and your music's too great, thank you, and
more importantly, your message is too great.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
We just want to be an outlet, man. We just
want to We want kids to come and know that
they can cry or laugh or whatever it is that
they've been going through that somebody's listening to them and
sees them and sometimes just feeling seen. That's enough, Like
just knowing, like, man, somebody paid attention to me and
listened to what I had to say, and that's enough
to keep you from ending it.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, so right, both of you probably different answer. What's
your favorite thing that a fan said to you?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Mine, anytime somebody told us that our music helped them
get through a moment of feeling suicidal, that's the.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
World.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
That's the highest point for me, just knowing that they
decided to stick around because not because of us, but
there was an inspiration and they saw somebody else that
was like, you know what, keep going keep waking up.
So that's for me, like mine has to be the same.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Like that that's the biggest Like it's not a compliment
or whatever you want to call it. It's happened several
times where people it seems like it's always some song
where like they go, I never where I knew that
song existed, or I listened to it and then all
of a sudden it came up on a playlist or
I went back and I started digging through your catalog
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like that one song. So like I listen to it
and they're just like there's so much there and they're
like I was feeling this way or whatever the or
like or they'll say, you don't understand like all the
stuff that I've been going through, and then like it
connected and I'm like, I don't know, Like I don't
know what else tops that.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Really there really isn't anything.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, And that's why too that the people out there
today that are saying music artists just stick to music
and stop using as a pulpit, they don't understand music
at all.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
We grew up going to a lot of hardcore shows,
and hardcore was always supposed to be about getting up
and sharing whatever it was that was on your heart,
and it didn't have to necessarily be something that you
agreed with or whatever, but the fact that we all
had that we could listen to one another and say like, well,
where are you coming from? I want to hear where
you're coming from, and then I hope you give me
the same respect. We need the scene culture as far
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as like the music scene, all these different bands here
that believe different things, all coming together for this one
cause to give everybody an outlet. Hopefully that's what everybody's
here for. To give everybody an outlet to let loose
a little bit, maybe get some emotions out that are
negative in a positive way.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
I just think that maybe if that can bleed over
into the real world a little bit, so to speak.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
No doubt, Yeah, not even a little bit. Yeah, like
a flowing river after a hurricane. Yes, that's what we need, man,
because man, we just all need to love each other.
We don't need to be divide on sides. We don't
need to be like it's just ridiculous what the powers
of b are doing to make us all angry at
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each other, attacking.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
We were just talking earlier about everything that happened with
Charlie Kirk and now the whole Jimmy Kimmel thing, and
we're like, it's like people start using a death or
whatever for their own agendas and we're like, I'm not
on either side here. I'm on the human side, right.
I want us to listen to one another and come together.
Like it's like everybody starts picking sides. It's like, dude, like, I.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Hate it, I hate it. I'm gonna leave. So I
hate sides. I look at both sides.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I look at both of everything, and I think that's
the only way you really become a full fledged human
being is knowing both sides and understanding people that have
opposing viewpoints why they think that way, instead of just
judging and attacking them.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, maybe understand why. Maybe they have a good reason
for it. Who knows. Maybe something happened to them that
you don't know about. Who knows.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
It's kind of like this is maybe a bad analogy.
I hope not. I just like, you go adopt a
dog and the dog maybe seems like really angry, and
everybody's like that dog's crazy and mean, It's like, what
happened to that dog?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Does he need somebody to show him some love a
little bit and kind of find out what was going
on in the dog's heart what like right, genuinely like
maybe they were abused, That's maybe why they're angry.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
They're just It's a perfect analogy.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I'll tell you a story that happened to me is
I'm a Jew and I was forced to be in
an enclosed room.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Working with a neo Nazi.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
And I have this believe that violence just breeds more light.
Violence hate breeds more hate. If you hate your haters,
they're not gonna like you any better. I decide with
this kid, I'm like, you know what, let me find out.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Why he hates me so much.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
And what I found out is he was just misinformed
by a small, sheltered group he was in. And I
proved to him that I wasn't what they were saying
because I didn't hate on him or hate him because
of who he was, and because I actually listened to him.
And at the end of that conversation we ended up
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becoming friends and he changed his viewpoint.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
That's what the world needs to know.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I agree, because at the end of the day, if
we just treat people the way we want to be
treated isn't that the goal here? Like hopefully, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I think that is the goal. There's only one other goal.
They have to go to an islander show.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yes, got to get an island show and listen to.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Islanders music, because that is the goal. Because you guys
are badass.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Do you have anything else you want to share that
you have coming out or new coming up that we
haven't covered already?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
We have a new record coming out next year. We
don't know like a release date, but we're super stoked
on it. We can't wait for everybody to hear it.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I'm super stoked. I can't wait. You're gonna have to
let me know right away.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Yeah, it's the worst thing having to like like when
you when you track an album and we have to
sit on these songs, right and we have to get
a game plan and a marketing plan and just a
release date all those things and how we're going to
release it. It's hard. It's really difficult because you're sitting
with these songs. You can't you just can't show it
to everyone, right. You're like, I want to just put
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it out. I want to go play the songs, and
but we have some time because of the baby, my nephew.
But so we have the next few months to focus
on that, and we're getting together as we speak, like
we've been getting a game plan for twenty twenty six.
But we're putting tours together, We are putting release dates.
How we want to release the album. We don't really
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we don't know what it's called yet. We might know
what it's called, but that's where we're at. But we finished,
we've mixed and mastered, so songs.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Are ready to go. So we're really excited about it.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
It's just more of a mismatch mixed, you know, like
a whole bunch of a bunch of islander. Yeah, like
we're always we're all over the place, right, It's punk metal.
I love that, give hip hop, heavy big choruses. Yeah,
so it's but anyway, but yeah, so that's what's next.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I love that about you.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
And tell everybody how they can connect to you and
subscribe to you so they can find out when that
new album comes out, and also so they can buy
your merch because they can't listen to my show.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
And let's say buy your merch.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Oh that's awesome. You can find us on all the socials, TikTok, Instagram,
Instagram is just islander. If you type an islander on
any of the stuff, it'll pop up. So anything that's
got a little scorpion logo or you see some dudes
like us on it with some face pain and dreads. Yes,
so yeah it is. I love it.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
And since we're doing this over here, let's show.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
That Yes is the most recent. It's Grammy nominated.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
The I love it.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yeah, it's a great album. It's got songs on it
you see like albums, dude, and then I hear this
has a feature a Christian from the band blind Side.
It's one of our favorite bands. And yeah, he jumped
on the track with us. So yeah, everybody go check
this out. We love it.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I even love that you have Spanish on there.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Oh yeah, yeah we're Dominican.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah, so I love that you included that.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Yeah, that's our culture. I do, now you do.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I love it. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
This is the best interview of all of Louder than
Life because it's the best freaking band. Forget Slayer, go
to Islander, don't forget them, but you know, love it.
You guys rock. Thanks for being here at Louder than Life.
And thanks for being on the Adventures of pipe Man.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Thank you for having us
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Bro, Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipemin
on w for CUI Radio,