PipemanRadio Interviews Little King About New Album Lente Viviente

Sonic Journey of Years Past with LITTLE KING’s 8th Studio Album “Lente Viviente”

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Bounce, Stone, bake Stones, Walk Shop Back.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe
Man W four C Y Radio. And our next guest
has some killer new music coming out. So let's welcome
to the show, Ryan from Little King.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Pipe Man, appreciate you having a song Man album's coming
out tomorrow. So we're excited and busy and yeah, fucking
running a little bit ragged.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
It's all good though, right, that's the fun part, right,
I don't know, Like, I mean.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
What kind of masochism are you into? Bro?

Speaker 3 (01:00):
You know, well, if you're in music, you're you're into masochism.
That's the bottom line.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
It's like a life. It's a lifelong affliction. No, dude,
this is a fun part for sure. You know, make
a record, you're super fucking proud of it, like you
love the guys you're playing with and your whole team,
and you know, after doing this for like twenty eight years,
which is basically where I'm at right now, making records,
like all I do is work with people that I dig,
and so like being able to celebrate the next few
days in a few weeks with those guys is pretty

(01:26):
dope for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Well, you know, that's what you figure out when you
get older, because when you start a band when you're
a kid, you think these people are your lifelong friends,
and most of them never last past teenage years, you know,
And then when you get to the later stages, it's like,
you know, I don't have to deal with all that
fucking drama. Why don't I just play with people I like?

Speaker 1 (01:50):
And I mean, I don't want to be pejorative too much,
but like drama and musicians, it's sort of like you know,
Telly or bong, water and the floor or whatever. You know,
it is what it is. But I definitely have appreciated
the last twenty years with the last two guys I
was with, and particularly Eddie Garcia. You know, shout out
to him. He's a drove for pissing raisers. I don't

(02:11):
know if you're familiar with them. He's played in Overkill
for a while, he's been around, and he and I
have made a bunch of records together, go like five
over the last twenty years. And so it is the
first one I haven't made with him since two thousand
and three. And I think, just like I'm in a
fresh perspective. You know, I live in Tucson now and
Eddie's and El Paso, and so for the longest time,
no matter where the fuck I was living, dude, in
the in the US, like Delaware or San Jose, Yeattle, even,

(02:35):
I was always going to El Paso to make records.
But this time, you know, I've been in Tucson five years,
and I take care of my mom and I take
care of my son. I'm a single dad to you,
amongst all the other fucking nights. Then I'm doing, you know,
So I just wanted to stay local. So I found
someone cool here and got some new musicians. Even though
Dave the bass player played on our last couple of records,
he plays cello TuS He's a ranger. But yeah, dude's

(02:57):
kind of a breath of fresh air. And just like
as I listen back to the tracks, you know, you
always take a you should always take a couple of
weeks off from listening to your stuff. When you're done.
You know, it's just not fresh to you, Like it's not.
It sounds terrible, right to be honest with you. But
after going back after a couple of weeks and revisiting
and getting ready for all the interviews of the press
and stuff. Yeah, dude, it's like, okay, I listen back.

(03:18):
It's like, really glad for the decisions that I made
this time. They were pretty adult. Nice.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Well. I think one of the best decisions you made too,
is not having to go to El Paso, because if
I never have to go to El Paso, I'd be
perfectly happy.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
You know, there's there's a charm there, and it's hard
to explain to people who haven't lived there, because yeah, clearly,
like if you're on fucking it ten blaze in east
or West, it's a blow through, you know. You know,
you know, there's nothing to recommend it. But when you
get in and you start to meet the people and
you find the nooks and the Mexican food, which is absolutely.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Well, yeah, it's good for Mexican food for sure.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah. And I have so many homies there, dude, and
they're just salid. I mean, it's not the most affluent city,
it's not the most highly like masters in PhD level educatedcy,
but there's some fucking great people there, dude. And so
even though yes, it is not like Bali or like
or like Big Sir, you know, it's not. No one's
ever gonna mistake it for that at least, Like the
people are pretty down there there, to be honest with you,

(04:13):
compared to almost all the other places I've ever been.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Well that that's good to hear. My Actually, my daughter
with her ex husband wins in the military, so they
were stationed. They'll pass so for a while.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, Four Bliss brings like I mean, they're like sixty
thousand people at Fort Bliss or something. But the peripheral
plus I mean that's a huge part of like the
economy and what goes on there. But yeah, we made
we made a ton of records there, dude, And like
I've recorded there for a long time. And yes, it's
nice to stay home. Two sounds lovely. I like my
life here, and you know, I'm fifty three and this
is my eighth record, and so it's time to like

(04:46):
make some changes. But at the same time, it like
still sounds like me, Like I can't fucking get away.
I can't get away from myself, you know.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
So it should always be your foundation, right, It's just
what you evolve from that foundation. Yeah, the way I
look at it, and I.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Think, you know, and as like a as a thoughtful
and hopefully introspective artist. You know, you're not necessarily looking
to say, Okay, I've got to progress. Different guitars, different snares,
sound different arrangements. I don't think that you have to
that out necessarily to be that way as a long
term as a longtime artist, but I do think it
has to be at least part of the equation because

(05:23):
I don't want to make the same music over and
over again. But I also know I'm, you know, true
to the fucking core of who I am, and I
always have been, you know, all these last years. So
do we think about it a little bit, Yeah, maybe,
But the main thing is, like I have to listen
back now to my back cat lot because it's been
at it for a minute, right, And so I have
to make sure I'm not like repeating hooks, for example,
repeating words, because like we're all predisposed to like going

(05:45):
back to our fucking habits, right of these words, these phrases,
these on the guitar, you know, these phrases. And so
I do definitely hammer my new songs against my old songs,
like okay, cool, that's actually original, Like I actually haven't
done that before. Which is at this point, it's kind
of like a fucking minor miracle, but we do do that.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Is it is a miracle. It is a miracle because
there's playing bands that they write new music and they
don't even realize that it's kind of the old music,
you know, because it's just hammered in your head.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, it's one of those old school tricks that you learn.
There is I was just telling my girlfriend yesterday. We
were having a long conversation and the recurring theme was
that there is no substitute for experience and there it's
literally is it like it is not something that you
can approximate now, I was like, and it's like like
if you're a fucking brain surgeon, dude, Like you can't
describe to somebody what it's like to cut someone's head

(06:38):
open and like do it justice. And it's like I'm
not saying that rock you know, rock and roll records
are like brain surgery, but it is a sort there
is a certain thing and like the experience is like, Okay,
I've made all of the fucking mistakes in the business
and in the music, like I've seen them also now
it's like, Jude, they're slipping through as many hands as
my as my music is through now, then shit, I
guess it's just meant to be there, you.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Know, right, And you're right though. It's a good analogy
because I actually use that analogy for my industry. It's like,
because you know, I have professional studios, state of the
art equipment, and you have these people out there that
think just because you can buy some fifty dollars bundle
and do it in your bed, that you should and

(07:18):
they have no clue how to run a mixer board,
they have no clue about sound quality. They just have
all ego, like my content is great, and they watch
a YouTube video to learn how to do a radio
show or a podcast, And my analogy is always like, yeah,
you could watch a YouTube video how to do brain surgery,
and doesn't mean I want somebody play a scalpel to

(07:41):
my head.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
You know, it's interesting. We live in the age and
particularly the generation. I'm Generation X. I guess you know
me too. Generations generations behind us, you know, Millennials and
Z and whatever. Fuck I don't know all the names
of it, but you know they have the most access
and we have the most access to information in the
history of the world. Everything is our fingertips. It's like
it flows my mind, you know what you and I
can you know basically get hard hold facts and figures

(08:05):
and dates and things like that like that. Like, dude,
we were pouring through encyclopedias you know about of course
we were right just to try and get through like
junior high, dude, like we had to do it even
elementary school. But with all of this access to information,
we seem like we're the least likely to use it.
And that paradox really is, you know, something to reflect on.
I think a little bit like what are we actually

(08:27):
doing with now that the Pandora's box has been open
and everybody can know everything. It's got to send some trouble,
There's no question about it. I'm not super stoked with
the way that's all evolved in the last twenty five
years of first, you know, easy access to fast internet
and then social media, which is you know, to me
in a way is just like the scourge of the
modern era. You know.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, well, you know the thing that's missing nowadays is
critical thinking, you know, and actually reading stuff that you
research and vetting it. Yeah. Funny, you know, I saw
somebody post something social media. And I said to a person,
is that peer reviewed? And their answer to me was, yeah,

(09:07):
all my friends agree with me. And I'm like, peer
you're a fucking idiot. That's not what peer reviewed means.
But that's the world we live in. So yeah, and
now with AI, like AI is wrong the lot of time,
but people just take it as the gospel.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
It's really and I you know, don't want to dive
too deep deeply down that rabbit hole, but it's really
less and less asking, you know, pushing us to question things.
The way society has evolved and the way our access
to information has evolved, and the ease with which we
can communicate has evolved, it's pushed us, like I said,
in some dangerous territory. And it's funny, like with social

(09:47):
media and the way that's it. I mean, we can
use music examples all day, but just in general, like
when you were a journalist back in the day, like
in the seventies, right when we were growing up in
the eighties or whatever, you probably went to journalism school.
You probably learned how to write. You probably learn in
the conventions of grammar and punctuation and alliteration and accidents
and imagery and similar as the metaphor is that on
and on, you probably worked your way up in the newsroom.

(10:09):
You probably learned how to source things, and you learned
how to interview somebody and then fact check and then
double check. Anybody with a keyboard now can be a
keyboard warrior, right, like anybody's with an opinion now. And
so what's evolved into is like, it's not the most
knowledgeable opinion, that's the that's the listen to one. It's
the loudest, the one with the most gravitas, you know,

(10:30):
is the one that everybody gravitates towards, right, because it's
just fuck a loud, it's in your face, and so
you know, that's it. You can we can make those
musical analogies, but it's you know, it's part of the
observations that you know that I see over the last
fifteen or twenty years.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Speaking of which you if I have this correctly, you
got a degree in creative writing, right, I did?

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah from UTEP. Actually it I'll pass out.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, So how do you how would you tell other
artists or just the people listening who may want to
be ours, how that helped you in your songwriting?

Speaker 1 (11:06):
There are certain conventions of elevated writing, and they're flexible
to a large degree, especially now with how quickly people communicate.
But learning the way the best of the best did
it from humans who have studied it their whole lives
and made it their career and passion is never going
to be detrimental. Do you have to go in up

(11:29):
educational in that open mind as fusolutely you do, because
there's a lot of indoctrination and brainwashing going on at
all levels right in corporate America and education whatever. But
learning and studying and understanding how people paint pictures with words,
and then understanding rhyme and meter and the forms that
don't use rhymes, you know, which are many. Just practicing

(11:50):
your craft, like the whole ten thousand hours adage, you know,
or analogy. I think it prepared me to try and
find my unique voice more than anything. And I think
authenticity in this day and age is what really we crave,
and even if fucking people don't, I'm gonna do it anyway,
do because That's how I'm going out, you know, is
just being my true authentic self and so learning how

(12:12):
to synthesize that, like what's going on in here into
lyrics or into short stories or into poetry. That's really
how creative writing is informed. And so now when I
sit down, I'm writing a song like I bring some,
I bring some a lot of thoughts to it, and
I don't want to repeat myself again. But there's so
many things going on in the world. There's so many
things that are going on personally. There's so many things
that are going on personally that are universal, and that

(12:34):
to me is like what makes a great song. But
if I hadn't had a creative writing education, would I
have had such a crystal understanding of kind of how
a lot of those things work, at least for me,
then I think I probably wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Well, I think, especially for your music, it seems that
it's it's kind of storytelling, and you need that creative
writing experience. Do storytell properly?

Speaker 1 (12:58):
I think, yeah, I mean Troubadour style of songwriting. I'm
a huge Steely Dan fan, and we don't sound anything
like Steely Dan, but the way he tells. Donald Fagan
tells stories in each one of those songs that are
just really vivid and clear, and his use of imagery
and just words, he's so good with the language, you know,
and all of my favorite artists really put a lot
of time and thought and effort into their lyrics.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
You know.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
I think it's key, like, you know, funny to your point.
I also I do like all kinds of festivals. But
at one of the punk festivals once, uh, when in
the band, all the bands, all the punk bands, they
all looked up to the descendants because of their songwriting.

(13:40):
Not because it's not because of the music. It's because
they would all talk about what a brilliant songwrit here
he was, you know, And I think that is key,
Like that's how to me, that's the hook, okay, because
if you can relate to that song writing and it's

(14:01):
something that can take you somewhere else, Yeah, that's good songwriting.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Well everything, you know. I'm not this is not an
original thought by Ryan Rose from Little King. This has
been this has been said before, but like everything should
serve the song to a degree, and it's kind of like,
what's the general vibe of this song and then specifics
the things that you can pull pull into it, whether
it's the actual composition, whether it's instrumentation that can further
that song, and like do there are a million fucking

(14:27):
guys that can play sweeps faster than I can ever, like,
and I don't have the discipline or the time or
the energy to sit down and become, you know, like
I used to be, even which is like really worshiping
Mega Death and Steve VI and guys like that. Now,
for me, as we get older, I've reflected on my
legacy a little bit and kind of the things that
I'm trying to you know, stand back and be proud
of and they can live on, you know, hopefully after

(14:48):
me and with through my kids and things like that,
and the magic of the interwebs. Right the music's fucking
everywhere forever, so can't shape it whether you like it
or not. But like, what my legacy wants to be
is being able to tell stories and being able to
make them relatable, setting them the music that's a little
bit more interesting than maybe just four four all the
time or the same tempo and same keys. And so
now as I'm reflecting your legacy, that's really it too,

(15:10):
is like writing the songs, the perfect song, and we edit,
we write, we re edit. These are not sit down
and jam a couple hours at the session, you know,
at the studio and then kick kick them out. I've
done that in the past, and there's no shade. Like dude,
I like that too. It's fun, I mean, and it's
it's a whole different challenge of your musicianship and a
part of your brain. But certainly, like when I'm looking
to put something out, I'm looking for this is, you know,

(15:32):
Little King twenty twenty five, Like I do. Want to
make sure that there's some memorable stuff on there, and
if people don't like it, it's like, fuck, dude, what
can I do? Like next time? Cool with that?

Speaker 3 (15:41):
You can't please everybody. That's why you gotta please yourself
and then your tribe will come.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
That's it authenticity. That's what you're saying, you know, being
authentic to who you are and what you're trying the
message you're trying to put out, and hopefully people can
sense that and they gravitate towards it.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
I hope, well totally. So the new album is called
Lente Bibiente. That's TRCT and my question is what made
you want to make it? The name of the album
in Spanish.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
So backing up a little bit to the beginning of
last year, I started a new company. I like entrepreneurship too.
You know, I've been a dad my whole life, and
I've got a support family and kids. I have two
children that I basically raised, you know, financial one hundred
percent pretty much, and so start a business in twenty
twenty four doing video memoirs. I live in Tucson, Arizona,

(16:31):
which is a huge retirement community, and then of course
Phoenix is two hours north and there's tons more. So
basically a bit the thrust of the business is documenting
people's stories and preserving them for posterity, for their kids
and for the descendants, you know, going on. And the
name of the company's Living Lens Memoirs. That's that's what
we decided to name it. So Lente Viviente means living lens.
And so as I'm talking to these people through the

(16:52):
last year and doing some interviews and just meeting peeping
people at festivals or trade shows, the thing that struck
me more than anything to do is like how people
view themselves and how biased they are we are of
our own opinions of not only ourselves but the world
around us, and that their kids look at them sometimes
a lot differently than they look at themselves. And we
look at ourselves differently because we have the sort of

(17:14):
psychological dysmorphya where we really have a hard time being
objective and seeing ourselves. And so hearing these folks tell
their stories, and most of these people are in their eighties, dude,
you know, so they've lived a full, rich life, you know,
and their families are usually there kind of surrounding them.
The lenses by which we see ourselves and we see
the world, the filters, the living lens of you know,

(17:35):
we're here and now what are you doing with all
this experience and the gathering and the amalgamation of all
the things that you've learned through the years. So basically,
the album lent to Viviende is the living lens, and
it's all of the different ways that filters and perception
affect how we act and how we react with each other.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
See that's why I wanted to hear the whole story
behind it, because to me, lente bibiente sounds much better
than living lens. It just sounds cooler.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
And also, dude, I'm in Tucson. This is definitely forty
four percent you know, Latino, and I lived in Opata.
As I said, for a long time, and I've been
in the last you know, twenty five years or so,
you know in Spanish culture, really thirty five years because
I moved down here first in nineteen ninety. So I
have great love for Spanish and my drummer's Mexican. He's
from Mexico.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
It's nice.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, shout out, dude. And I don't know. The other
thing too, Like from the business side of it, bro
is like you look before you make an album and
release it, you look to see if anybody else has
used the name. Does that name exist on Apple Music
and Spotify, And the fact of the matters it doesn't.
You know, it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
There You go, that's great, it.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Does as of midnight tonight, there it is. There it is.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
And in South Florida, you know, when you call a
company and it says press one for this and press
two for this, it's press one for Spanish, two for English.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
So same here in Tucson, Arizona.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
B there it is there, it is.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Well in the fucking inner ropers, though, do they were
totally here first?

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Like oh yeah, moved in yeah yeah, And you know
what the fact that the matter is is, I like
the Latin culture man they we could learn from them. Yeah,
we should.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
That's point we should be And we're so again getting
back to the theme of the album, that we're so biased.
We're so in doctrinary and immersed in our own beliefs
and our own cultures, and many of us, you know,
raised in a very narrow view of how the world
works without the experience of another culture and things like that.
There's so much we're fucking humans, dude, Like the artificial

(19:35):
lines and like what north or south of the line
you know where you were born is so fucking inconsequential,
Like the amount of melanin you have in your skin
is so fucking inconsequential to like what kind of human
being you are inside of that. They are amazing people
in every of every race, creed, color, and culture, sexual orientation, gender, whatever.
And there are fucking douchebags, dude, in every one of those.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
No doubt.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
And I totally agree with that. And the fact is
you hit on something I'm big about, and that is like,
until you travel out of your local area, you don't
know shit because you know what people do. I remember
the first time I went to Europe and I was like,
what the hell was everybody telling me, because I don't
buy it now, you know, because we're so sheltered like

(20:25):
I have my ex wife, her grandfather never left his
street his whole life, Okay, And it's like, man, there's
so many different things to experience out there and cultures
and how people are. We can all just learn from
each other.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Well, and the more you know to realize you don't
know a fucking thing exactly. When you get to that
place in your life where you are humble to the
big picture of it all and the fact that we're
always learning and growing creatures that can't know anything like
we just don't. It's the capacity when you've come at
peace with that. The only thing that student's kindness yea,
you know, and gratitude and humility, the things that are

(21:06):
true and pure that we know no matter what religion
and background or atheists in your point of view you're
fucking coming from, dude, Like those things are universal, Like
no one's gonna regret going out as like the kindest, gentlest,
most humble, most helpful person. So the further we straight
from that, whatever the reasons are. So when you go
to these different countries, like you you know, you go

(21:27):
to Europe or I was in Morocco this summer.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
For five Oh no, shit, that's so wild, that's cool.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
I was a Marrakesh with my son, like that was
his graduation.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
When did you go? Okay, So I I did radio
coverage at Download and then I was doing hell Fest
and so in between I flew to a Marrakesh. That's
what we were in June. In June in Marrakesh. That's
so funny.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
So we were there end of July and into August.
So we flew to Barcelona and we spent like four
days in Barcelona. And then it's like it's sixty dollars trip.
You're flying in Europe, as you know, it's so cheap, dude,
it's so cheap. So werew We went down there for
five days and did the Souks and did the Medina,
did the camel and did the Agafe Desert in the
app this mountains and all of that. Bro. It was amazing. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah. And you know what I find amazing is when
you go to places like that, all the things that
maybe you were taught or brainwashed about just disappear because
you realize it's all bunch of bullshit, And like you
say all the buns are humans periods.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yes, and it's all through a filter, right, Like, it's
all through whatever their biases, whatever their DNA is, whatever
their experiences are. Like, nobody can tell me about Marrakesh
now because I've been there, right, Like, I've seen it
and we walked that whole fucking deal. Did you walk
all the suits? Like, did you go through the market
and do that whole thing?

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Oh? Yeah, yeah yeah, And I learned something. Okay, So
I learned something very good in that marketplace. Whether you
speak Spanish, English or French, they will not stop hike
at hockey you. But if you tell those merchants, if
you say lo shukra, they immediately stop.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, that's secret code, that's.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
You know, and that's basically no thank you in Arabic.
So if you say it in Arabic to them, they'll listen.
Otherwise they'll just keep coming out.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
So when you come when you come back from there.
When I came back from there, there was definitely like
three or four day major adjustment back to the States,
and it was a good adjustment. It was cool, But
I don't want to lose the feeling, you know that I.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Had a real time I leave I come back, it's
like I got like Costa Rica a lot too love.
I love it too. I love the people there. The
people are just absolutely they have.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
No fucking military do. They abolished it in nineteen forty six.
Presidents said by decree after World War two, like we
are never having constitutions.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
And they gave free healthcare and free education instead of military. Dude,
the concept. I'll tell you I have a story about
that because so I had two heart attack surfing. One
was in Hawaii, and the idiots in the American healthcare
system that charged me four hundred thousand dollars almost killed
me because they caused a second heart attack. The second

(24:14):
heart attack happened in Costa Rica, as after I was
cleared of a year of you know, supposedly getting better.
But the difference I found okay, So it was absolutely amazing.
The cardiologist that's going to do the procedure on me
in Costa Rica, he's at my bedside calling the insurance
company like no receptionist doing that. He did it himself,

(24:38):
and they said to him. He said to him, he
needs this procedure or he's gonna die. And the insurance
company's answered to him typical, Well, it'll take forty eight
to seventy two hours of process of claim, and it's
a weekend, so it'll probably be longer. He goes, you
don't understanding. He'll be dead by then. They didn't give
two shits. He hangs up the phone. And what they

(25:02):
did next shows humanity. Okay, because they put me in
their social security system so I could get free healthcare.
I'm like another country, a third world country, puts me
who's a gringo in their healthcare system so I could

(25:23):
get traded for free in my life save. But my
own country is like, fuck you, why.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Is it that? And that's a fucking amazing story, and
thank you for sharing that with me. I really it
moves me to hear those kinds of things. It's the
humanity and all those things that we were just talking about.
Why can't we all across political and social lines and
gender and socioeconomic lines agree that that's who we want
to be? Like, why can't that be? Because I think

(25:49):
if you tell that story one hundred people, one hundred
people are at least gonna have some reaction of like, wow,
that's fucking amazing, dude, that sounds incredible you know, maybe
half of those people like, well, but I'm not in
favorite of socialized medicine. We can have that conversation, but
why not let's examine like what our priorities are. It's like,
why a country like Costa Rica and all of the
other thirty two quote unquote industrialized nations who have the

(26:10):
world have it and we don't. You tell me, dude,
I mean it's straight up breeding.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Well Bali. You mentioned Bali in the Begain. I was
in Bali for like three months and I got sick
and I was walking by on one of the nooses
and I saw this like little you know, walk in clinic,
looked it up. I had good reviews. I walk in.
I shit you not. I was in there for fifteen minutes.

(26:37):
The doctor not only treated me, diagnosed me, gave me
the medicine. I didn't have to go anywhere else. By
the next day, I was perfect. And it cost me
a total with the medications and with the doctor's visit,
forty two dollars. Like that would be like a five

(26:58):
hundred dollars bill at least here in Florida. I can
tell you.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
That you hear things like that, and it does make
you want to make another record and call it healthcare travesty,
like like just you know, with a with a fucking
little red cross and like a stethoscope. You're giving me ideas, dude,
I mean.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
How can a poor country do that but a rich
country can't?

Speaker 1 (27:24):
That is the problem because of the priorities, Because the
priorities that people are calling the shots, and the way
this system is set up to be so capitalistically dominated
and so haves and have nots, you know, intentionally like
that's the way we operate, when that is literally the
way this system is set up and supposed to be
those kinds of things, like the altruism goes away eventually.
And I'm not advocating for full socialism or communism, but

(27:48):
are a lot of socialist programs and a lot of
prioritization of whatever money is coming in the federal government.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
How you think too, because the powers that be they
brainwash us the old district in the book Divine Conquer,
But it's mindset too because another example, when I was
in Denmark, I'm sitting around with a bunch of people,
different religions, different political viewpoints, different origins. Nobody was arguing.
We were all talking and nobody had an argument, and

(28:16):
the Danish girl we were talking about the socialized medicine
there and her we were talking about social socialism there period.
And I'm not for socialism in our country, but I
like you, there should be certain things to take care of,

(28:36):
like basic human needs. But their viewpoint, this girl was like, listen, yeah,
we pay a lot more taxes, but we think it's
worth it because our viewpoint is why should I have
two cars and my neighbor have none. I'd rather share
with my country people instead of having everything.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Look at those happiness indexes. Finland, I think is always
the happiest country.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
In the world. You know, Denmark too, Yeah, Denmark too.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah, And there are nine million people in Denmark or whatever.
It's a small you know, relatively speaking. Sweden's maybe nine million,
It's six million something like that. It's like the size Arizona,
you know, in terms of like right population is. So
there are obviously differences, but you know, worth the main
our export is war. Our export is you know, we
have financial and economic control and tech and so all

(29:25):
of the things that our federal government spends money on.
When you have those experiences like that, that can happen
to anybody except the upper you know, five percent of
the population, Like you could die from medical disaster. None
of those other countries has that ever happened. Does someone
get bankrupt, you know, have a financial disaster because of
medicine just here? And those priorities to me are really weird,
especially when you go to Costa Rica and wait a second, like,

(29:47):
wait a.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
Second, you know, wait a second, right, you know, And
again it's mindset's how people think, and I think, like you,
we're one race, the human race. Period.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
I'm trying, dude, to do this in my music. And
maybe you know, now that we've had a conversation, you
go back and you give me twenty six minutes of
your time and put the headphones in a zone out
for a little bit. Because all the music that we're
creating and all the words that we're creating are positive
in their message in terms of like, I'm a believer,
I have hope, and I believe that art is able
to open people's eyes and make them a little bit

(30:22):
more open and a little bit more gentle.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
And so now you know.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Not to fucking says shamelessly sself from Mote, but dude,
this is really like the sentiments and the things that
we're talking about as the core of what I believe.
And it's clearly like at this age, the core of
the art that I'm trying to make. And I'm like,
I hope people can latch onto that and like take
something away from that. Just think a little bit more deeply.
Question the things that you've always been told, you know,
question the veracity of the things that you've been passed
down from generations. You know, like you said, your grandpa

(30:46):
never left his block, like go to Morocco, you know,
change your life.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
It always will, no doubt. And you know what, music
is the biggest unifier if you ask me, and it's
also the best therapy there is.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Motorcycles close close second, but yeah, you know there's something
about that on the open road, just through the hills,
you know, yeah, but yes.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
But yeah. So I'm really appreciative of somebody like you
giving that art to us because it is something that
is beneficial in so many ways. And you know a
lot of people out there now are saying, oh, musicians,
they shouldn't have a voice, you know, No, they should

(31:32):
have a voice more than anybody, because that it is
one of the greatest voices. If you don't like what
they have to say, you listen to somebody else what
they have you know, their music, but.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Universal language, dude.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Everybody knows it, no doubt. So tell everybody how they
reach out to you guys on socials, on the web,
how they get the new album, how they check out
everything about you guys.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Okay, we'll talk about business, dude.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Fine.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
So we are Little King too UNEs pretty much everywhere.
And when I say tunes, it's like songs like t
U n E s The Little King Tunes on all
the social media. Little King Tunes dot Com is our website.
It's everywhere as of midnight tonight, you know, Friday, Friday,
September twenty sixth, we released a couple singles called Catch
and Release. I was back in August and then don
Villa a few weeks ago, which is actually about my home,

(32:20):
my home, neighborhood, your good stories in all of those songs,
you know, fishing with my dad in the first one,
you know, doing the Yellowstone River, things like that. So
everything comes out tonight, and man, I just like, I
hope people give us twenty six minutes of their time.
You know, it's a really proud of this one, you know,
and I'm hope, I'm hopeful that we can at least
go to Europe and play some shows and not take
a bath, please contribute to the Europe to our fun,

(32:43):
you know, and then from there about I hope, I
just hope people dig it always for sure. I appreciate
you and your time and your.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Interests, and I think they will dig it, and they
definitely need to spend the time to take a sonic
journey of yours past.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
There you go, brother, that's it. Thank you so much, appreciate.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Thank you, Thank you for being on the Adventures of
pipe Man.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipemin on
w for c u I Radio.