September 30, 2025 • 37 mins
Remember Serenity are an acoustic rock duo from Southend-on-Sea, England formed in 2019 creating heartfelt original music with soul & sincerity. Featuring Den Owen on vocals and Wayne Stanez on guitar, Remember Serenity blend stripped-back instrumentation with powerful, introspective lyrics. The sound captures raw emotion and quiet strength, offering listeners an intimate journey through themes of love, loss and resilience.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hi, you love them too, censure.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Wow for you your.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
You're the best in.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
The reason I still me.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures Pipe
Man W four c Y Radio, and I'm here with
our next guest across the Pond, who not only are
great artists, but one of them is a friend of
mine and the guy in the purple is not. So
(00:51):
let's welcome to the show. Remember Serenity. I don't know
if I remember Serenity by way, because I just came
from louder in life.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Not quite not quite the same thing.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
But we frequently get misnamed on things, and I think,
remember Sobriety has been my favorite.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Oh yeah, I could see. I could see that. Maybe
you should form another band and call it Remember Sobriety,
and then and then and then maybe they'll think your
name is remember Serenity. Maybe I don't remember Sobriety either,
but that's okay now, Actually I do. I know Wayne doesn't.
(01:37):
And I can't believe I forgot to put my signature
for your See, I fucked up for my that's my
signature right there.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
The backdrop as well.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, there you go. See. I was so busy making
the backdrop that I forgot that I had to put
on the sunglasses because I do all my interviews in sunglasses,
and with the sunglasses it's hard to read anything. So
you know that I'm not using a script or or
notes or anything.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
You know, I've got the wrong glasses on to be
able to read anything.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
So well, the funny thing is is, uh, I have
LASAC and I have mono vision, but now I had
a sty last year and it's affected my reading vision.
Sometimes it's not even all the time. Sometimes I can
read out without the reading glasses, other times I need them.
It's weird, but you know it must be. I think
(02:37):
it's your music. It's so good that it just blurred
my vision.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Might be it could be. It could be that to
sleep in your eyes, possibly exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
It makes me very serene. It is usually what I
can't see too, That's why I'm never serene. But it
all seriousness. Man, your music is badass.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
So how does partnership come about?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
We've been friends for thirty years.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Oh, I'm so sorry for you.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
We weirdly, we actually initially met because a mutual friend
of ours knew that Wayne was looking for a singer.
For you know, band way way back, and I thought
it was a chat up line and told him I
wasn't interested, So I didn't sing for him thirty years
ago and it took what twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Years or something to finally nice.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah, i'd like to say here, so obviously we've got this.
We have got a lot of a bond obviously from
thirty year friendships. So it's very easy to do this,
like when you know, sometimes you're in bands and there's
they're very much different, different difference of opinion with this
between you know, the bass and singer or the guitarist
and drum or whatever, but.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
With just the two makes it easier.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah, and the fact that we're very very like minded,
so it kind of works well. So I mean with Teva,
for example, it was a song called Tever which I
we we d entered a songwriting competition and we were
given this one line. And I was then heading to America.
I think I think it was possibly one of the
times I went to see Laurie, but I was heading
(04:21):
to America. So I was sitting at the airport and
I thought, well, when I get back, we've literally got
four days to have four or five days to have
this song ready for this stim position, so probably should
start doing something. So I was siting at the airport
lounge and I quickly wrote some lyrics and sort of
said it to Den. Then got on the plane blah
blah blah when I landed, and when I landed in
New Orleans, that then set me a message which basically
(04:45):
had the second verse and the rest of the chorus.
So we kind of wrote wrote the song twoferent so
from England sort of thing. But but when we got back,
literally I just picked up the guitar and something comes
straight out and it was just that was it was
really that that song was just like the fastest I
think it just it just comes to very well. But
that but that was again, the lyrics are about our friendships.
(05:06):
So we were given the line two birds of a feather,
and obviously you're given that line you've been best friends
for thirty years. It's pretty The lyrics come quite simply.
You know, you have got one line in it and
it's kind of worked. So it was it was something
that we could relate to and that that kind of
inspired us to write quicker, didn't it.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, we've definitely been more prolific since then.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Yeah, up to that point we were very slow with
writing new songs. But now we're yeah, kind of knocking
them out quite quickly.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
So I love it. And I you know, at first,
when you were saying you met, I thought she was
going to say, you guys man on ship Rocked down.
I was going to say, I'm going to tell Laurie
that it's a pattern now, But no.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Ship rocked back then. I was on ship Rocked in
twenty three. So nice with Wayne, we were already friends obviously.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Well, there's always better to be friends if you're going
to be in a you know, a music project, because
otherwise it could be hell. Like I see bands that
you can tell they don't like each other, and it's like, wow,
that would really suck because you can't escape them. It's
not like a job where you could go home. You know,
(06:20):
you're stuck with this person like all the time.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
The family ones I think are probably the worst for that.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Actually, when you get the sort of sibling rivalry and
and that kind of thing, I think.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
That are you talking about Oasis.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
On the list obviously, but yeah, I mean even or
even Abba they all fell out, they were all married,
and Hearts have recently fallen out as well.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Weetwood Mac Yeah, say when when? Because then's actually the
second singer of Remember And when I was looking for
a new singer and my girlfriend at the time she
sort of said, well, what about then, And I was like,
I'm not sure. Yeah, because obviously good friends for so long,
and then when you add that element of being in
a band together, you get you get the different disagreements,
(07:06):
and I thought, you know, we don't want to affect
our sort of our friendship sort of thing. So we
sort of said from this, if we start arguing about
band stuff, then friendship comes first. Friendships friendships first.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
But that's a good rule for three and a half.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Years in or since since you joined and there and
we're still good. Yeah, well for that as much as
we normally don't know myself, we'll have one on our
list story well.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
And it's funny because you were saying before about like
having two people. Two people in the band can either
be really good in that scenario or really bad, Like
you know, because at least if you have like four
or five people in the band, there's buffers, there's people
that like there's more of a I would say can
(07:58):
be more of a democrat, but when you have two people,
it's like it's either hard, yes or hard.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Now Weirdly with.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
That though, obviously when I first first joined it was
very much it was Wayne's band. I wasn't even sure
if I was going to be sort of the permanent
singer or if it was just a stepping stone until
Baying found somebody else. And I'm not sure if that's
not true or not actually, but it's it's still very much.
(08:28):
If there is anything that a decision kind of needs
to be made, I still refer to Wayne, really, I
still sort of see it as he's his band, He's
the one, he's the boss.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Yeah, I mean a lot, a lot of it, as
well as my obviously extra experience of being in bands.
Obviously I've been doing band since was fifteen, whereas obviously
this is really your first band. I suppose it's an
apart from Gecko, it wasn't I hope does that really count?
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Though you can remember the name, well, yeah, I mean
from stuff I did not younger, But yeah, I shall
prop a band and stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
So I mean we generally agree on those things. I
don't mean musically, we've got very similar music tastes like
quite varied as well, which is obviously helpful because you know,
if you get someone who's I like folk and someone
who likes I like metal, and you kind of to
have clashes. But we both like those both of those genres,
(09:21):
so it kind of works. It's like folk with a
tinge of a rock, I guess is what we're actually doing,
or rock with a tinge of folk, which way you
look at it, one one or the other.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, And she's going to be an angel because you're
very picky, so she's going to be an angel to
put up with your taste. Yeah, but quite picky musically.
That's where you guys work together because that is a
(09:53):
commonality that brings you together. Because if you have one
person that really isn't picky, doesn't care, and some made it,
I think that's a clash, big.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Yeah, so that music tastes so far.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
I mean, we're actually genuinely friends because of music. You know,
we initially met very briefly, you know, it's like because
he was looking for a singer, and then we met
again at a nightclub and we were both in a
foul mood. Don't remember why, but we were both in
a foul mood and we got chatting because we were
the only two people sort of sitting.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Away from everybody else.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
And Wayne was talking about tattoos and I was saying,
as soon as I turned eighteen, I want to get
my first tattoo, and he said, what do you want
to get?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
And I want to get my favorite band logo? And
he went, oh, who are there?
Speaker 5 (10:40):
And went nobody's ever heard of them, nobody knows them,
nobody knows them. And then eventually I said, oh, it's
a band called Queen Drike and he literally lifted up
his sleeve to the only tattoo he had back then,
a Queen Drike tattoo.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Wow, I have still learning at once. I it's kind
of like, what a big work in progress.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Wow. And so then nobody really knew in the UK
because the minute Queen's Reike came out, we all knew
about but we thought it was Iron Maiden. We thought
it was Iron Maiden that first when it came When
it came out, we're like, oh, that's a new some
new Iron Man and then we're like, oh, no, it's not,
because it did the first album did sound a lot
(11:21):
like Bruce.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, you know that the highest stuff that you did.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Empire promised well some actually my favorite albums.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah see, I was introduced to it when Queen and
the Reich came out and that song sounded like Maiden.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Yeah absolutely, yeah, that is very very Maid.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, I quite right, But that is kind of wild
because how often in the world are you going to
find somebody else with the same band tattoo on, you know,
like especially a bad like Queen's Reike. I don't think
a lot of people have that tattoo, like I could
see if it was made in freeze. But to me,
that's that shows your your connection right from the get go.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Yeah, actually might when I find because you're not allowed
to get tattooed here until you're eighteen.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
You're not allowed to be in nightclubs either, but my.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Mom was.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
So when I finally turned eighteen, which would have been
probably about six months after that, I think something like that.
It was actually Wayne's parents that bought me my my
Queen direct tattoo as my eighteenth birthday present.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Wow, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Yeah, it's not in a place I can.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Show you, so I'm not Oh come on now, So.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
It's Yeah, it's not really. Yeah, it's difficult to get.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
To now you have Now you guys got both get
tattoo that says remember sent a serenity.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Maybe maybe the tree, the tree.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah, I don't have writing on me, so it'd have
to be the tree.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
The tree would be kind of cool. That would be cool.
So as well, obviously you both have interest in folk,
you both have interest in metal. What makes you pick
focus the one that you focus on for your music?
Speaker 4 (13:12):
It's obviously just I mean the main When I first
started rumors you back in twenty nineteen, I was really
really into a band called the Civil Wars, and I
imagine you heard them. I heard Civil Wars and I
was just blown away by just the just how stripped
back it was. It was just one guitar, a male
and a female vocal, lovely harmonies, and I thought, I
want to do something like that. I absolutely want to
(13:34):
do that, but I kind of wanted to do it
with obviously my rock influences as part of it. So
when I first formed a band, when I first did
it and I had my original singer, it was original
originally a working title for it was Civil Coil because
it was kind of a cross between Civil Wars and
Lacuna Coil.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Oh yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
It was kind of the plan. It doesn't really sound
anything like Lacuna Coil now, but initially that was kind
of the the kind of the idea. Twigger doesn't really
sound that much like the Civil Wars apart from harmony
sort of thing, and obviously not as good harmony as
Civil Wars, but that was the that was the kind
of the premise of it. So it was more a
case of doing something really stripped back, and that kind
(14:12):
of leads it more towards the folk side than the
rock side. But you can definitely hear the rock influences
in the in the some of the guitar playing sort
of thing, because there's a couple of songs the Neuer
Ones as well.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah, oh yeah, you could definitely tell. But it is
I think the name you have is perfect because I
think the music, the harmonies really does create surroundy, which
is something I think the whole world needs right now.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Thanks. Yeah, that's really cool.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
M Yeah, because you know, I have this idea too
of how to solve all the world's problems. You guys
could play at it too.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Excellent. Yeah, it's a.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Music festival that the whole world is required to attend
because you know, listen, music is the great unifier. It's
also the best therapy there is. And I think instead
of all the other stuff that's going on, we could
just work it all out at a music festival, because
when you go to a music festival, you know, generally
(15:17):
nobody's an outsider and nobody's fighting. We're all just loving
each other from all walks of life. Yeah, yeah, and
see that. I think that's what your music also represents. Like,
I think it represents something that could unify us together
and and uh create the serenity that this world.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Needs exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
If only you had a good photographer that you knew that. So,
tell us about this new music compared to the evil
What was the evolution to get to this new EP?
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Right, Okay, that's a good one. We basically we obviously
when we first started recording and the idea of recording,
we had seven songs, I think, and then I had
the idea of let's uh, I mean we could try
and record ourselves at home, and then it was a
case of every time we would get to a certain stage,
we then stop or yeah, something would distract us or so,
(16:28):
so we never really finished it. Then we met this
guy who had his studio in his garden. It's only
he was sixteen. All yeah, So the guy produced all
four of our EPs.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Is a sixteen year old producer.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Just turned seventeen.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Tetro studios in in Raylei and England. But Moss is
an absolute legend. So we basically we kind of heard
that he had a studio, So I asked him, can
you send us a recording of something you've done that's
similar sort of stuff to us? And I heard it
and I thought, well, that's better than I'm going to
do in yeah, the next year if I get round
to it. You know. So I thought, do you know
(17:05):
how much it meant? More so, how much for a
couple of days in the studio? And he gave us
such a good price. We're like, yeah, no, brain, I
will do that. If it comes out rubbish, then we
haven't lost a lot of money. Right, it come out
the first ap winter, we really were She's like, yeah,
this is this is great, you know. So we obviously
booked him for spring, then summer, then autumn. Yeah, and
(17:27):
but yeah, So so the writing process, which was the
question one, So what is the right process when?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Like I said, when when when I joined, obviously being
the second singer, Wayne already had a few songs sort
of finished basically, so I listened to the other singer
singing and I just kind of copied what was there.
And then as we wrote new songs, they became very
much our songs. And then as I became more comfortable
(17:55):
as being part of the band, I actually started writing
some lyrics as well. So it's become very much. It
was very much just Wayne doing it all, and now
it's become much more we sort of do it all together,
and I think both of us have definitely improved with
sort of songwriting and that kind of thing as we've
got a little bit more comfortable with it and that
kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
It's definitely better to do it together, I think too,
because people everybody has something to add to it, you know,
and bring something to the table that maybe you don't
think of and you know, or just a different viewpoint,
because there's so many viewpoints in the world. I think
the more viewpoints you have of the music you create,
(18:35):
the more likely you're gonna have a bigger tribe following you.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Yeah, the viewpoint is quite interesting actually, I mean especially
on a song called Circles that Wayne wrote, and it's
a it's a song about friendship, and he wrote it
about you know, like your little circle of friends and
how blessed he feels or whatever to have these few
people he can absolutely rely on. Have you know great
(19:01):
these you know, half a dozen people are I read
it and I sing it as how awful is it
that you can only rely on a few people and
everyone else read it?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
So I just I'm the negative one.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
It just absolutely I see that as you know, completely
the other way around to how Wayne actually wrote that.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
And see I thought circle would be about marsh pits.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
We did when we actually start geting. Lastly, you know,
like some people near to the front when we're playing,
we'd probably say we want to see, right, have a
circle pit out of one of the gigs would be
absolutely incredible.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
You know what though, I was just doing a festival
Bourbon Beyond and Fish was playing, Yeah, and I saw
the kai of circle pit you guys can have because
I was like I was sitting there and then in the
beginning I was like telling my friends I'm like, oh,
I want to start a marsh pit. We were like,
oh no, no, do that, blah blah blah. And I'm
(19:59):
like a couple hours in when people were peeking on
whatever they were peeking on, it looked like a mash
pit where nobody touched each other. It really did. Like
I was like observing these people of like and then
while you're talking, I'm thinking, that would be the perfect
mash pit for your live show. It's like you take
(20:23):
the deadhead fish head type of dancing and no touching,
and there's your pit. And it's very serene, you know,
because it was like it's like slow motion wash pit.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Most of most people that come to see you can
already do the slow motion version.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Right, So see, there you go. It's perfect. And so
how do people get this album EP? How do they
check you guys out? How they are? Where do they
next to you? Where do we create this circle of
your now musical friends.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
If you just got a link tree, remember Serenity is
obviously the best best place because all links to everywhere
where we're on. He's on there, so it's obviously a
link to our YouTube channel and link to our Spotify,
our Facebook, Instagram, Twitch, Twitch, which we're so we're going
on live now Twitch once a week at least that's
(21:30):
the plan. There's also a link to our shop, yes,
our band camp shop on there on there because we're
still we stuck with the original idea of doing classic
CDs for so so for people to tell us all
the time, I haven't actually got CD player.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Okay, it's all on Spotify and everything, so yes.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yeah, but they have to buy the CD if they
want to listen to my show aim more though.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
The CD has always better obviously. Yeah, we sell a CD,
and we actually obviously cost money to produce the CDs,
to record the CDs, to actually get the CDs done. Yeah,
obviously we've worked out if we actually sell all the
CDs we buy, we might just break even. But you're
obviously never going to sell all the CDs buy you
give away the odd few here and there.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I was going to say, if you sell all the
CDs next time, I mean you're in the US, you
could buy a couple of tacos at Taco Bell.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Yeah. Well, if someone goes on and streams all fifty
five minutes about four aps on Spotify, we get about
seven pence which is about what ten ten cents, So
so it's yeah, spot Spotify, and that's that's if they
don't find a reason to say, oh that that's stream there,
that one doesn't count because it was a three forty
(22:48):
seven in the afternoons, right right. But uh, but last
how I mean, really really stay wouldn't we We never
started doing this to make you know, to become you know, millionaires,
famous to all the world. I mean, it'd be nice,
but we're like old, we're old and like so you know,
on the down downward part of the hill now. But
(23:11):
like I said, we do it because we love doing it.
We do it because we like telling the stories that
we're telling. Obviously a lot all of our songs have
got some relevant so we don't write a song that's yeah,
just are there's some words that are catchy, you know,
sweet charaime, bah bah bah kind of rubbish.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
It's his favorite song, were.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Bom Bomb.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
But we all our songs have got a story to tell.
That was very much inspired by Bad Flower. When I
saw them on ship Rocks in twenty nineteen, I think
literally you saw them and it was just like that. Yeah,
there's a couple of their songs were amazing, and then
I saw them and they were incredible. So I went
back and revisited their first album and like listening to
reading the lyrics, and then lyrics then become really important
(23:59):
because they're yeah, just they're really such strong lyrics. Just
Josh catch.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I love Josh, He's the cause to but like what
I Love Too is one of the festivals they played,
he had larryn Jaynas so he just had the crowd
sing all the show. It was the coolest show where
it was a ballsy move because you know you're going
to get hate sometimes, but man, I thought it was
(24:24):
the coolest one term lifetime show ever to be fair to.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Do that rather than just cancel. That's that's that's.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Some of the stupid excuses I've heard for bands canceling.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, no doubt to me, that's a professional. The show
must go on.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
A bad fel fan, he's going to prefer to be that.
Like then. I remember I saw seble Tour actually once.
This was literally just after they sacked Max, because I
saw him. I saw him with Max at Brixton, which
is the last gig he did with them, and then
they sacked him and they were playing Donnington, which wasn't
before it was download and uh yeah literally based on
play you didn't even like to just sack that singer.
(25:01):
But they had like Evan and Billy from Biohazard, and
I think Jonithan Davis did a song with him, and
I just had other people who were on the bill.
Burton Seabells did a song and it was just like
Sebutura with guest singers and it was that was that
was amazing.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
It was yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Yeah, and I imagine that being a gig. Josh is
there playing playing the guitar, so it's not like he
wasn't there, right, so he was there and it was
just yeah, I mentioned that is that was a special gig.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
It was. And then like right after Covid my third show,
I had the cover since you mentioned Jonathan Davis was
corn and Jonathan Davis had COVID and sat in the
throne like Oars he did and imagined him just sitting down,
but he and he performed with Covid sitting in a throne. Wow,
(25:51):
Like that's dedication right there. You know, they are one of.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
The bands that I have missed thanks to a terrible
excuse though, So yeah, they were meant to be doing
Ozfest and one of them was expecting about it. Obviously
wife was expecting a baby, so they canceled and she
was like five months pregnant or something.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
She wasn't nearly about to give birth.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Yeah, and food Fighters covered it, just, yeah, that's weird that, like,
you're not even ready to give birth.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
And that was the excuse.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
That was that reason we were told.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, wow, that's a trip. So how come or what
made you decide to do the four seasons? And more importantly,
I mean maybe it's because you have all four seasons
in one hour, and that's why that is. But more importantly,
why did you start with winter? Was that Dedn's idea?
(26:47):
Because she's the negative one, so let's start with the
negative season.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Yeah. The first DP come out in December, so we
released one each. We had the songs, and then someone
had the eye. Someone suggested, remember who it was? Someone
it might might be Laurie.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Actually I don't remember who, so.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
It's Laur's fault.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Then it might might be Laura.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Laurie, I don't ever do it anyone out there?
Speaker 4 (27:11):
She said, whoever it was, who said, why don't you
like so you know, like, you've got these songs, and
we we want some sort of concept and and I
don't know where the idea come from having the seasons,
and then we thought, actually, why don't we just do
one and we'll release one now, we'll release one of
three months, and we'll release the four seasons aps over
(27:32):
nine months and yeah, so so basically have a year
to release the four aps, which was a great idea.
And obviously then we showed the I asked a friend
of mine and about the artwork and she just knocked
that up for us, and it was the concept was
was there, it was born. And then it was like
at the time we had seven songs and there's sixteen
songs on the APS. So once we got to about
(27:54):
sort of summer, we were like, we're running out of
songs now. Yeah, so we have to quickly squeeze some
more songs out. But the idea so.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Well, the good news is is in the UK, all
four of those EPs would be appropriate any month of
the year there.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, it was summer, yesterday's today exactly.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I'm surprised it took till today to become winter.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
I was figuring to getting a couple of special edition
and Alton is done with full on them instead.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, you could do like a special vinyl that is
made with leaves.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
That could be good. It's cool. Someone has to be
about vinyl. We other that you're going to get vinyl
collective vinyl? Is that we kind of you know, we
have to get like one hundred vinyls done, and it
costs like well over a thousand pounds to get like
one hundred vinyls done. So are we going to get
let's spend over one thousand pounds just for one person person?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah, well how about I want you, I want you
to put it out on a track?
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Yeah, great system.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I loved the tracks because you know, it would interrupt
the song in the middle of tracks, and you know,
if you didn't have a matchbook, it would play in
slow motion.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
It was really good. It was great quality. I think
I could turned my radio station into like an eight
track radio station.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Ben's got night track and I was just like, why
he's using this, He's just retro. She loved it because
it was your retro, so you just use it.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
So yeah, I not. I wish I kept my eight
tracks because it would be kind of cool and funny,
you know, because I had I had Blizzard of Oz
on eight track when it first came out. Mister Crowley
would fade out and during the second end of the
second track and feeback in in the third track.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Nice, amazing.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
So what else do you want to tell the listeners
about you guys, about your music that they need to know.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Well, we've got some ideas for an XDP, but it's
a secret, but we plan on releasing that hopefully by
about April May next year. Obviously, we've got the four EPs,
so there's plenty of music to get your tapth into.
We are recording two more songs in December seven Deputy,
which was the seventeenth song that didn't make it onto
(30:34):
the EPs, basically the on Autumn. There's a song Counting
the Days that's also about Lorry. Seven Deputy is about
how how I met Laurie. So it was a case
of there we wanted different subject matters on there, so
only one of them kind of made it onto the EP,
and Counting the Days we felt was the strongest song,
wasn't it, So that's why we did that. That's why
(30:54):
that one made it on there. But we're recording that
in December. That will be we'll do a video for
that and whack it on YouTube obviously on Spotify. It's
gonna be a non CD version, so.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
You're going to do like April and May. So you
should name the album forget Winter, it's spring.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
We're just we're just, we're just skipping over.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Exactly. Well, you know what you should do. And she'll
probably be watching or listening to this when it comes out.
I think you guys should sing live on the interview
the song about Laurie or at least part of it,
at least part of it.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Which one do you want to do?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Which one?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Count of the days?
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Probably count of the days of the off the new
EP probably in chane.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah that that that might mean some tune and.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Mm hm.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
That fuss about it and my chance to sleep wide
away continuity break, sorry but gonestly don't to dream?
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Will I want to sprink?
Speaker 6 (32:23):
That is so long?
Speaker 7 (32:24):
So long comes in the DISTI I see you again,
should not want and all reading.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
I just want to go.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I just need to feel.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
I'm not hope you want to be with you all
the time.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
M hm m.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
M m.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Through the day, my mind is away picking up places
that we even remember in times I would top tapular
signs that we see, yet in today we're so far away, yearning.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
Up in overwhelm both in my mind that's saver rabbit,
leave to my half, blease.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I just want to the long, Jess, I just be
to feel and not all with that.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
I want to be with you all the time.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Best chaptism meant. And that's a stormy about.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
That still be.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
In time it was just.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
Them.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I wait, I don't.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I just want to want you. I just need to
be curious.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I wanted to be fall world.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Nice. I was really really good. I don't care what
Laurie says.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
So yeah, so that's absolutely I mean when when I
met Lauri, I mean we at the time we had
seven songs, six of which were really miserable and one
which was happy. And then it was this case of
like since then, now we've got kind of fifty to
fifty happy sad, so balance now, so we're start writing
miserable songs again now because obviously it kind of suits
(35:23):
the mood of the music bit more.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
So yeah, but obviously that one's a bit of sad
and the other two there's there's free songs about Laurie.
Two of that one's on the new AP and the
song Oceans is on Spring video comes out next week.
The video does come out on the second of October
on YouTube on a YouTube channel. I'm not sure when
this is going live, but but yeah, so if this
(35:51):
is if, if this is on air before the second
of October, check out our YouTube channel on second October
for the new song nice.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Well you guys rock, your badass the Spike Wings in
the band, but but we do love you and everybody
else needs to love you too, or they can't listen
to my show anymore.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
We're looking forward to being your Your World festival.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yes, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
I'm happy to open that as well. I mean if
we s open it and then we can go to
the backstage bar and yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
It is well spoken like true English people right there. Well,
you guys rock, and everybody definitely has to get all
of the EPs and check you out. You're super talented
and thanks for being on the Adventures of pipe Man.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Much for having us, Thank you, Thank you for listening
to the Adventures of pipe Man on w for c
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Hi, you love them too, censure.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Wow for you your.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
You're the best in.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
The reason I still me.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures Pipe
Man W four c Y Radio, and I'm here with
our next guest across the Pond, who not only are
great artists, but one of them is a friend of
mine and the guy in the purple is not. So
(00:51):
let's welcome to the show. Remember Serenity. I don't know
if I remember Serenity by way, because I just came
from louder in life.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Not quite not quite the same thing.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
But we frequently get misnamed on things, and I think,
remember Sobriety has been my favorite.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Oh yeah, I could see. I could see that. Maybe
you should form another band and call it Remember Sobriety,
and then and then and then maybe they'll think your
name is remember Serenity. Maybe I don't remember Sobriety either,
but that's okay now, Actually I do. I know Wayne doesn't.
(01:37):
And I can't believe I forgot to put my signature
for your See, I fucked up for my that's my
signature right there.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
The backdrop as well.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, there you go. See. I was so busy making
the backdrop that I forgot that I had to put
on the sunglasses because I do all my interviews in sunglasses,
and with the sunglasses it's hard to read anything. So
you know that I'm not using a script or or
notes or anything.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
You know, I've got the wrong glasses on to be
able to read anything.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
So well, the funny thing is is, uh, I have
LASAC and I have mono vision, but now I had
a sty last year and it's affected my reading vision.
Sometimes it's not even all the time. Sometimes I can
read out without the reading glasses, other times I need them.
It's weird, but you know it must be. I think
(02:37):
it's your music. It's so good that it just blurred
my vision.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Might be it could be. It could be that to
sleep in your eyes, possibly exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
It makes me very serene. It is usually what I
can't see too, That's why I'm never serene. But it
all seriousness. Man, your music is badass.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
So how does partnership come about?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
We've been friends for thirty years.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Oh, I'm so sorry for you.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
We weirdly, we actually initially met because a mutual friend
of ours knew that Wayne was looking for a singer.
For you know, band way way back, and I thought
it was a chat up line and told him I
wasn't interested, So I didn't sing for him thirty years
ago and it took what twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Years or something to finally nice.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah, i'd like to say here, so obviously we've got this.
We have got a lot of a bond obviously from
thirty year friendships. So it's very easy to do this,
like when you know, sometimes you're in bands and there's
they're very much different, different difference of opinion with this
between you know, the bass and singer or the guitarist
and drum or whatever, but.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
With just the two makes it easier.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah, and the fact that we're very very like minded,
so it kind of works well. So I mean with Teva,
for example, it was a song called Tever which I
we we d entered a songwriting competition and we were
given this one line. And I was then heading to America.
I think I think it was possibly one of the
times I went to see Laurie, but I was heading
(04:21):
to America. So I was sitting at the airport and
I thought, well, when I get back, we've literally got
four days to have four or five days to have
this song ready for this stim position, so probably should
start doing something. So I was siting at the airport
lounge and I quickly wrote some lyrics and sort of
said it to Den. Then got on the plane blah
blah blah when I landed, and when I landed in
New Orleans, that then set me a message which basically
(04:45):
had the second verse and the rest of the chorus.
So we kind of wrote wrote the song twoferent so
from England sort of thing. But but when we got back,
literally I just picked up the guitar and something comes
straight out and it was just that was it was
really that that song was just like the fastest I
think it just it just comes to very well. But
that but that was again, the lyrics are about our friendships.
(05:06):
So we were given the line two birds of a feather,
and obviously you're given that line you've been best friends
for thirty years. It's pretty The lyrics come quite simply.
You know, you have got one line in it and
it's kind of worked. So it was it was something
that we could relate to and that that kind of
inspired us to write quicker, didn't it.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, we've definitely been more prolific since then.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Yeah, up to that point we were very slow with
writing new songs. But now we're yeah, kind of knocking
them out quite quickly.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
So I love it. And I you know, at first,
when you were saying you met, I thought she was
going to say, you guys man on ship Rocked down.
I was going to say, I'm going to tell Laurie
that it's a pattern now, But no.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Ship rocked back then. I was on ship Rocked in
twenty three. So nice with Wayne, we were already friends obviously.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Well, there's always better to be friends if you're going
to be in a you know, a music project, because
otherwise it could be hell. Like I see bands that
you can tell they don't like each other, and it's like, wow,
that would really suck because you can't escape them. It's
not like a job where you could go home. You know,
(06:20):
you're stuck with this person like all the time.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
The family ones I think are probably the worst for that.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Actually, when you get the sort of sibling rivalry and
and that kind of thing, I think.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
That are you talking about Oasis.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
On the list obviously, but yeah, I mean even or
even Abba they all fell out, they were all married,
and Hearts have recently fallen out as well.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Weetwood Mac Yeah, say when when? Because then's actually the
second singer of Remember And when I was looking for
a new singer and my girlfriend at the time she
sort of said, well, what about then, And I was like,
I'm not sure. Yeah, because obviously good friends for so long,
and then when you add that element of being in
a band together, you get you get the different disagreements,
(07:06):
and I thought, you know, we don't want to affect
our sort of our friendship sort of thing. So we
sort of said from this, if we start arguing about
band stuff, then friendship comes first. Friendships friendships first.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
But that's a good rule for three and a half.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Years in or since since you joined and there and
we're still good. Yeah, well for that as much as
we normally don't know myself, we'll have one on our
list story well.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
And it's funny because you were saying before about like
having two people. Two people in the band can either
be really good in that scenario or really bad, Like
you know, because at least if you have like four
or five people in the band, there's buffers, there's people
that like there's more of a I would say can
(07:58):
be more of a democrat, but when you have two people,
it's like it's either hard, yes or hard.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Now Weirdly with.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
That though, obviously when I first first joined it was
very much it was Wayne's band. I wasn't even sure
if I was going to be sort of the permanent
singer or if it was just a stepping stone until
Baying found somebody else. And I'm not sure if that's
not true or not actually, but it's it's still very much.
(08:28):
If there is anything that a decision kind of needs
to be made, I still refer to Wayne, really, I
still sort of see it as he's his band, He's
the one, he's the boss.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Yeah, I mean a lot, a lot of it, as
well as my obviously extra experience of being in bands.
Obviously I've been doing band since was fifteen, whereas obviously
this is really your first band. I suppose it's an
apart from Gecko, it wasn't I hope does that really count?
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Though you can remember the name, well, yeah, I mean
from stuff I did not younger, But yeah, I shall
prop a band and stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
So I mean we generally agree on those things. I
don't mean musically, we've got very similar music tastes like
quite varied as well, which is obviously helpful because you know,
if you get someone who's I like folk and someone
who likes I like metal, and you kind of to
have clashes. But we both like those both of those genres,
(09:21):
so it kind of works. It's like folk with a
tinge of a rock, I guess is what we're actually doing,
or rock with a tinge of folk, which way you
look at it, one one or the other.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, And she's going to be an angel because you're
very picky, so she's going to be an angel to
put up with your taste. Yeah, but quite picky musically.
That's where you guys work together because that is a
(09:53):
commonality that brings you together. Because if you have one
person that really isn't picky, doesn't care, and some made it,
I think that's a clash, big.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Yeah, so that music tastes so far.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
I mean, we're actually genuinely friends because of music. You know,
we initially met very briefly, you know, it's like because
he was looking for a singer, and then we met
again at a nightclub and we were both in a
foul mood. Don't remember why, but we were both in
a foul mood and we got chatting because we were
the only two people sort of sitting.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Away from everybody else.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
And Wayne was talking about tattoos and I was saying,
as soon as I turned eighteen, I want to get
my first tattoo, and he said, what do you want
to get?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
And I want to get my favorite band logo? And
he went, oh, who are there?
Speaker 5 (10:40):
And went nobody's ever heard of them, nobody knows them,
nobody knows them. And then eventually I said, oh, it's
a band called Queen Drike and he literally lifted up
his sleeve to the only tattoo he had back then,
a Queen Drike tattoo.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Wow, I have still learning at once. I it's kind
of like, what a big work in progress.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Wow. And so then nobody really knew in the UK
because the minute Queen's Reike came out, we all knew
about but we thought it was Iron Maiden. We thought
it was Iron Maiden that first when it came When
it came out, we're like, oh, that's a new some
new Iron Man and then we're like, oh, no, it's not,
because it did the first album did sound a lot
(11:21):
like Bruce.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, you know that the highest stuff that you did.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Empire promised well some actually my favorite albums.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah see, I was introduced to it when Queen and
the Reich came out and that song sounded like Maiden.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Yeah absolutely, yeah, that is very very Maid.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, I quite right, But that is kind of wild
because how often in the world are you going to
find somebody else with the same band tattoo on, you know,
like especially a bad like Queen's Reike. I don't think
a lot of people have that tattoo, like I could
see if it was made in freeze. But to me,
that's that shows your your connection right from the get go.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Yeah, actually might when I find because you're not allowed
to get tattooed here until you're eighteen.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
You're not allowed to be in nightclubs either, but my.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Mom was.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
So when I finally turned eighteen, which would have been
probably about six months after that, I think something like that.
It was actually Wayne's parents that bought me my my
Queen direct tattoo as my eighteenth birthday present.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Wow, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Yeah, it's not in a place I can.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Show you, so I'm not Oh come on now, So.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
It's Yeah, it's not really. Yeah, it's difficult to get.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
To now you have Now you guys got both get
tattoo that says remember sent a serenity.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Maybe maybe the tree, the tree.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah, I don't have writing on me, so it'd have
to be the tree.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
The tree would be kind of cool. That would be cool.
So as well, obviously you both have interest in folk,
you both have interest in metal. What makes you pick
focus the one that you focus on for your music?
Speaker 4 (13:12):
It's obviously just I mean the main When I first
started rumors you back in twenty nineteen, I was really
really into a band called the Civil Wars, and I
imagine you heard them. I heard Civil Wars and I
was just blown away by just the just how stripped
back it was. It was just one guitar, a male
and a female vocal, lovely harmonies, and I thought, I
want to do something like that. I absolutely want to
(13:34):
do that, but I kind of wanted to do it
with obviously my rock influences as part of it. So
when I first formed a band, when I first did
it and I had my original singer, it was original
originally a working title for it was Civil Coil because
it was kind of a cross between Civil Wars and
Lacuna Coil.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Oh yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
It was kind of the plan. It doesn't really sound
anything like Lacuna Coil now, but initially that was kind
of the the kind of the idea. Twigger doesn't really
sound that much like the Civil Wars apart from harmony
sort of thing, and obviously not as good harmony as
Civil Wars, but that was the that was the kind
of the premise of it. So it was more a
case of doing something really stripped back, and that kind
(14:12):
of leads it more towards the folk side than the
rock side. But you can definitely hear the rock influences
in the in the some of the guitar playing sort
of thing, because there's a couple of songs the Neuer
Ones as well.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah, oh yeah, you could definitely tell. But it is
I think the name you have is perfect because I
think the music, the harmonies really does create surroundy, which
is something I think the whole world needs right now.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Thanks. Yeah, that's really cool.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
M Yeah, because you know, I have this idea too
of how to solve all the world's problems. You guys
could play at it too.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Excellent. Yeah, it's a.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Music festival that the whole world is required to attend
because you know, listen, music is the great unifier. It's
also the best therapy there is. And I think instead
of all the other stuff that's going on, we could
just work it all out at a music festival, because
when you go to a music festival, you know, generally
(15:17):
nobody's an outsider and nobody's fighting. We're all just loving
each other from all walks of life. Yeah, yeah, and
see that. I think that's what your music also represents. Like,
I think it represents something that could unify us together
and and uh create the serenity that this world.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Needs exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
If only you had a good photographer that you knew that. So,
tell us about this new music compared to the evil
What was the evolution to get to this new EP?
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Right, Okay, that's a good one. We basically we obviously
when we first started recording and the idea of recording,
we had seven songs, I think, and then I had
the idea of let's uh, I mean we could try
and record ourselves at home, and then it was a
case of every time we would get to a certain stage,
we then stop or yeah, something would distract us or so,
(16:28):
so we never really finished it. Then we met this
guy who had his studio in his garden. It's only
he was sixteen. All yeah, So the guy produced all
four of our EPs.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Is a sixteen year old producer.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Just turned seventeen.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Tetro studios in in Raylei and England. But Moss is
an absolute legend. So we basically we kind of heard
that he had a studio, So I asked him, can
you send us a recording of something you've done that's
similar sort of stuff to us? And I heard it
and I thought, well, that's better than I'm going to
do in yeah, the next year if I get round
to it. You know. So I thought, do you know
(17:05):
how much it meant? More so, how much for a
couple of days in the studio? And he gave us
such a good price. We're like, yeah, no, brain, I
will do that. If it comes out rubbish, then we
haven't lost a lot of money. Right, it come out
the first ap winter, we really were She's like, yeah,
this is this is great, you know. So we obviously
booked him for spring, then summer, then autumn. Yeah, and
(17:27):
but yeah, So so the writing process, which was the
question one, So what is the right process when?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Like I said, when when when I joined, obviously being
the second singer, Wayne already had a few songs sort
of finished basically, so I listened to the other singer
singing and I just kind of copied what was there.
And then as we wrote new songs, they became very
much our songs. And then as I became more comfortable
(17:55):
as being part of the band, I actually started writing
some lyrics as well. So it's become very much. It
was very much just Wayne doing it all, and now
it's become much more we sort of do it all together,
and I think both of us have definitely improved with
sort of songwriting and that kind of thing as we've
got a little bit more comfortable with it and that
kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
It's definitely better to do it together, I think too,
because people everybody has something to add to it, you know,
and bring something to the table that maybe you don't
think of and you know, or just a different viewpoint,
because there's so many viewpoints in the world. I think
the more viewpoints you have of the music you create,
(18:35):
the more likely you're gonna have a bigger tribe following you.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Yeah, the viewpoint is quite interesting actually, I mean especially
on a song called Circles that Wayne wrote, and it's
a it's a song about friendship, and he wrote it
about you know, like your little circle of friends and
how blessed he feels or whatever to have these few
people he can absolutely rely on. Have you know great
(19:01):
these you know, half a dozen people are I read
it and I sing it as how awful is it
that you can only rely on a few people and
everyone else read it?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
So I just I'm the negative one.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
It just absolutely I see that as you know, completely
the other way around to how Wayne actually wrote that.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
And see I thought circle would be about marsh pits.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
We did when we actually start geting. Lastly, you know,
like some people near to the front when we're playing,
we'd probably say we want to see, right, have a
circle pit out of one of the gigs would be
absolutely incredible.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
You know what though, I was just doing a festival
Bourbon Beyond and Fish was playing, Yeah, and I saw
the kai of circle pit you guys can have because
I was like I was sitting there and then in the
beginning I was like telling my friends I'm like, oh,
I want to start a marsh pit. We were like,
oh no, no, do that, blah blah blah. And I'm
(19:59):
like a couple hours in when people were peeking on
whatever they were peeking on, it looked like a mash
pit where nobody touched each other. It really did. Like
I was like observing these people of like and then
while you're talking, I'm thinking, that would be the perfect
mash pit for your live show. It's like you take
(20:23):
the deadhead fish head type of dancing and no touching,
and there's your pit. And it's very serene, you know,
because it was like it's like slow motion wash pit.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Most of most people that come to see you can
already do the slow motion version.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Right, So see, there you go. It's perfect. And so
how do people get this album EP? How do they
check you guys out? How they are? Where do they
next to you? Where do we create this circle of
your now musical friends.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
If you just got a link tree, remember Serenity is
obviously the best best place because all links to everywhere
where we're on. He's on there, so it's obviously a
link to our YouTube channel and link to our Spotify,
our Facebook, Instagram, Twitch, Twitch, which we're so we're going
on live now Twitch once a week at least that's
(21:30):
the plan. There's also a link to our shop, yes,
our band camp shop on there on there because we're
still we stuck with the original idea of doing classic
CDs for so so for people to tell us all
the time, I haven't actually got CD player.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Okay, it's all on Spotify and everything, so yes.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yeah, but they have to buy the CD if they
want to listen to my show aim more though.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
The CD has always better obviously. Yeah, we sell a CD,
and we actually obviously cost money to produce the CDs,
to record the CDs, to actually get the CDs done. Yeah,
obviously we've worked out if we actually sell all the
CDs we buy, we might just break even. But you're
obviously never going to sell all the CDs buy you
give away the odd few here and there.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I was going to say, if you sell all the
CDs next time, I mean you're in the US, you
could buy a couple of tacos at Taco Bell.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Yeah. Well, if someone goes on and streams all fifty
five minutes about four aps on Spotify, we get about
seven pence which is about what ten ten cents, So
so it's yeah, spot Spotify, and that's that's if they
don't find a reason to say, oh that that's stream there,
that one doesn't count because it was a three forty
(22:48):
seven in the afternoons, right right. But uh, but last
how I mean, really really stay wouldn't we We never
started doing this to make you know, to become you know, millionaires,
famous to all the world. I mean, it'd be nice,
but we're like old, we're old and like so you know,
on the down downward part of the hill now. But
(23:11):
like I said, we do it because we love doing it.
We do it because we like telling the stories that
we're telling. Obviously a lot all of our songs have
got some relevant so we don't write a song that's yeah,
just are there's some words that are catchy, you know,
sweet charaime, bah bah bah kind of rubbish.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
It's his favorite song, were.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Bom Bomb.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
But we all our songs have got a story to tell.
That was very much inspired by Bad Flower. When I
saw them on ship Rocks in twenty nineteen, I think
literally you saw them and it was just like that. Yeah,
there's a couple of their songs were amazing, and then
I saw them and they were incredible. So I went
back and revisited their first album and like listening to
reading the lyrics, and then lyrics then become really important
(23:59):
because they're yeah, just they're really such strong lyrics. Just
Josh catch.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I love Josh, He's the cause to but like what
I Love Too is one of the festivals they played,
he had larryn Jaynas so he just had the crowd
sing all the show. It was the coolest show where
it was a ballsy move because you know you're going
to get hate sometimes, but man, I thought it was
(24:24):
the coolest one term lifetime show ever to be fair to.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Do that rather than just cancel. That's that's that's.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Some of the stupid excuses I've heard for bands canceling.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, no doubt to me, that's a professional. The show
must go on.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
A bad fel fan, he's going to prefer to be that.
Like then. I remember I saw seble Tour actually once.
This was literally just after they sacked Max, because I
saw him. I saw him with Max at Brixton, which
is the last gig he did with them, and then
they sacked him and they were playing Donnington, which wasn't
before it was download and uh yeah literally based on
play you didn't even like to just sack that singer.
(25:01):
But they had like Evan and Billy from Biohazard, and
I think Jonithan Davis did a song with him, and
I just had other people who were on the bill.
Burton Seabells did a song and it was just like
Sebutura with guest singers and it was that was that
was amazing.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
It was yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Yeah, and I imagine that being a gig. Josh is
there playing playing the guitar, so it's not like he
wasn't there, right, so he was there and it was
just yeah, I mentioned that is that was a special gig.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
It was. And then like right after Covid my third show,
I had the cover since you mentioned Jonathan Davis was
corn and Jonathan Davis had COVID and sat in the
throne like Oars he did and imagined him just sitting down,
but he and he performed with Covid sitting in a throne. Wow,
(25:51):
Like that's dedication right there. You know, they are one of.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
The bands that I have missed thanks to a terrible
excuse though, So yeah, they were meant to be doing
Ozfest and one of them was expecting about it. Obviously
wife was expecting a baby, so they canceled and she
was like five months pregnant or something.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
She wasn't nearly about to give birth.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Yeah, and food Fighters covered it, just, yeah, that's weird that, like,
you're not even ready to give birth.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
And that was the excuse.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
That was that reason we were told.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, wow, that's a trip. So how come or what
made you decide to do the four seasons? And more importantly,
I mean maybe it's because you have all four seasons
in one hour, and that's why that is. But more importantly,
why did you start with winter? Was that Dedn's idea?
(26:47):
Because she's the negative one, so let's start with the
negative season.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Yeah. The first DP come out in December, so we
released one each. We had the songs, and then someone
had the eye. Someone suggested, remember who it was? Someone
it might might be Laurie.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Actually I don't remember who, so.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
It's Laur's fault.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Then it might might be Laura.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Laurie, I don't ever do it anyone out there?
Speaker 4 (27:11):
She said, whoever it was, who said, why don't you
like so you know, like, you've got these songs, and
we we want some sort of concept and and I
don't know where the idea come from having the seasons,
and then we thought, actually, why don't we just do
one and we'll release one now, we'll release one of
three months, and we'll release the four seasons aps over
(27:32):
nine months and yeah, so so basically have a year
to release the four aps, which was a great idea.
And obviously then we showed the I asked a friend
of mine and about the artwork and she just knocked
that up for us, and it was the concept was
was there, it was born. And then it was like
at the time we had seven songs and there's sixteen
songs on the APS. So once we got to about
(27:54):
sort of summer, we were like, we're running out of
songs now. Yeah, so we have to quickly squeeze some
more songs out. But the idea so.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Well, the good news is is in the UK, all
four of those EPs would be appropriate any month of
the year there.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, it was summer, yesterday's today exactly.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I'm surprised it took till today to become winter.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
I was figuring to getting a couple of special edition
and Alton is done with full on them instead.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, you could do like a special vinyl that is
made with leaves.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
That could be good. It's cool. Someone has to be
about vinyl. We other that you're going to get vinyl
collective vinyl? Is that we kind of you know, we
have to get like one hundred vinyls done, and it
costs like well over a thousand pounds to get like
one hundred vinyls done. So are we going to get
let's spend over one thousand pounds just for one person person?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah, well how about I want you, I want you
to put it out on a track?
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Yeah, great system.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I loved the tracks because you know, it would interrupt
the song in the middle of tracks, and you know,
if you didn't have a matchbook, it would play in
slow motion.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
It was really good. It was great quality. I think
I could turned my radio station into like an eight
track radio station.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Ben's got night track and I was just like, why
he's using this, He's just retro. She loved it because
it was your retro, so you just use it.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
So yeah, I not. I wish I kept my eight
tracks because it would be kind of cool and funny,
you know, because I had I had Blizzard of Oz
on eight track when it first came out. Mister Crowley
would fade out and during the second end of the
second track and feeback in in the third track.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Nice, amazing.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
So what else do you want to tell the listeners
about you guys, about your music that they need to know.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Well, we've got some ideas for an XDP, but it's
a secret, but we plan on releasing that hopefully by
about April May next year. Obviously, we've got the four EPs,
so there's plenty of music to get your tapth into.
We are recording two more songs in December seven Deputy,
which was the seventeenth song that didn't make it onto
(30:34):
the EPs, basically the on Autumn. There's a song Counting
the Days that's also about Lorry. Seven Deputy is about
how how I met Laurie. So it was a case
of there we wanted different subject matters on there, so
only one of them kind of made it onto the EP,
and Counting the Days we felt was the strongest song,
wasn't it, So that's why we did that. That's why
(30:54):
that one made it on there. But we're recording that
in December. That will be we'll do a video for
that and whack it on YouTube obviously on Spotify. It's
gonna be a non CD version, so.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
You're going to do like April and May. So you
should name the album forget Winter, it's spring.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
We're just we're just, we're just skipping over.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Exactly. Well, you know what you should do. And she'll
probably be watching or listening to this when it comes out.
I think you guys should sing live on the interview
the song about Laurie or at least part of it,
at least part of it.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Which one do you want to do?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Which one?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Count of the days?
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Probably count of the days of the off the new
EP probably in chane.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah that that that might mean some tune and.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Mm hm.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
That fuss about it and my chance to sleep wide
away continuity break, sorry but gonestly don't to dream?
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Will I want to sprink?
Speaker 6 (32:23):
That is so long?
Speaker 7 (32:24):
So long comes in the DISTI I see you again,
should not want and all reading.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
I just want to go.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I just need to feel.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
I'm not hope you want to be with you all
the time.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
M hm m.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
M m.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Through the day, my mind is away picking up places
that we even remember in times I would top tapular
signs that we see, yet in today we're so far away, yearning.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
Up in overwhelm both in my mind that's saver rabbit,
leave to my half, blease.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I just want to the long, Jess, I just be
to feel and not all with that.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
I want to be with you all the time.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Best chaptism meant. And that's a stormy about.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
That still be.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
In time it was just.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
Them.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I wait, I don't.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I just want to want you. I just need to
be curious.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I wanted to be fall world.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Nice. I was really really good. I don't care what
Laurie says.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
So yeah, so that's absolutely I mean when when I
met Lauri, I mean we at the time we had
seven songs, six of which were really miserable and one
which was happy. And then it was this case of
like since then, now we've got kind of fifty to
fifty happy sad, so balance now, so we're start writing
miserable songs again now because obviously it kind of suits
(35:23):
the mood of the music bit more.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
So yeah, but obviously that one's a bit of sad
and the other two there's there's free songs about Laurie.
Two of that one's on the new AP and the
song Oceans is on Spring video comes out next week.
The video does come out on the second of October
on YouTube on a YouTube channel. I'm not sure when
this is going live, but but yeah, so if this
(35:51):
is if, if this is on air before the second
of October, check out our YouTube channel on second October
for the new song nice.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Well you guys rock, your badass the Spike Wings in
the band, but but we do love you and everybody
else needs to love you too, or they can't listen
to my show anymore.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
We're looking forward to being your Your World festival.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yes, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
I'm happy to open that as well. I mean if
we s open it and then we can go to
the backstage bar and yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
It is well spoken like true English people right there. Well,
you guys rock, and everybody definitely has to get all
of the EPs and check you out. You're super talented
and thanks for being on the Adventures of pipe Man.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Much for having us, Thank you, Thank you for listening
to the Adventures of pipe Man on w for c
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