South Florida Health & Music: The "Pet Health Guru" & Byzantine

Season 19, Episode 68 of The Adventures of Pipeman. 

Introducing the "Pet Health Guru" from Pet Health Cafe our second longest running show besides The Adventures of Pipeman. Listen to Bill's rants on your pet's health, nutrition and more...  

Then, we will have some PipePeeves promo about Pipeman's upcoming guest appearance on Fifty Shades of Bullshit.  

Next we will review more on the ending of the 2025 Pipeman Radio our including The Haunt at Respectable Street in West Palm Beach on Halloween celebrating the Moonfest Crawl and finish with a fun interview with OJ of Byzantine on-site at Culture Room in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. Byzantine is performing there along with MRSA and Fear Factory on "Demanufacture" 30th Anniversary Tour.  

We will recap all the PipeNutz Halloween shenanigans as well.  

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:22):
to those show hosts.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Thank you for listening.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Hi, lunto censure fee W bring you Young?

Speaker 4 (00:48):
Why Up America, It's time for the adventures You'll Fight
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is number one internet radio station.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Here's your host, the Fight.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
Many Oh, Welcome to the Adventures of pipe Man. Here
on W four CY Radio and also talk for TV.
And I've had a little seclusion downtime because the Pipe
Main radio tour was full blast since March.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Almost every weekend.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
We have a couple you know left, but basically the
last festival that I just did was the beginning of October,
and then except for a couple shows, I kind of
just went into that, you know, come down seclusion from
the whole excitement. And now I'm back and I'm here

(01:38):
with my pipe nuts, and one of them is especially
nuts right now. So first before I call them on,
maybe we have this new thing, a teleprompter. I'm going
to pull a teleprompter up so that I can read
what I have to say. But there's a problem. Hold on,
let's ask the pipe nuts about the problem. Pipe nuts,

(01:58):
come on down, all right, and we have a guest
in the background that's going to be coming soon here
in a second. However, I just want to know why
nothing is scrolling on my teleprompter.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Do you guys know am a teleprompter? Yeah? For everything
I'm saying, I have a teleprompter. Did you click on
the telemprompter? Did I did? Are you scrolling or using

(02:37):
the arrow keys? This is the thing.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
The reason I asked this question is because people are
so focused with certain things or certain details that they
ignore the obvious. It's because I have no script in
the teleprompter. So of course there's no nothing going to
be scrolling on the teleprompter because I don't use a script.

(03:03):
That's why. So now let's see if I can do
this without the teleprompter real quick, we are very what
I would hope so.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
What to have no script.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
I would hope that you can do it without a script.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
I'm gonna try. Okay, this next part it's very difficult.
I'm gonna try to see if I can do without
a script. We are bringing on a guest who actually
started off as a guest on my show at a
previous radio station before I started the network. Okay, so

(03:40):
he was a guest on my show on another network,
and he is probably the second longest running show on
the network besides this one. And he is definitely the
OG of W four c Y Radio, W four HC radio,

(04:02):
W four WN radio, W four CS radio, K four
HD Radio, and Talk for Media. Okay, and I have
mad respect for this guru, and he is a guru.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
And uh so you know him, rebel one, you know him.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
And even my daughter that does the disclaimer, the adult disclaimer,
by way, is that we're gonna ask him. Is that
a little creepy that my daughter does my adult disclaimer
on my show? It's a little creepy to me, my daughters.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
I think it's ironic, just a little bit ironic, just
a little bit.

Speaker 5 (04:45):
Uh don't you say that's a song. By the way,
he didn't get the song reference because he's too young
to get the song reference. Let's see if our guest
knows the song reference. So let's welcome to the show
the Pet health Guru, Bill, how are you?

Speaker 6 (05:02):
I am fantastic. How are you doing?

Speaker 3 (05:05):
I'm doing great?

Speaker 5 (05:05):
And so the Pet health Guru is also the chief
person in charge of my Paleo pet and is the
chief person in charge of Pet Health Cafe.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
I did that all with a teleprompter. Bill, can you go?
Could you hear me when you were backstage?

Speaker 6 (05:31):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Were you paying attention?

Speaker 5 (05:34):
No, that's exactly what I thought. Okay, So you've known
Rebel a long time. Based on being on the show.
Now compared to previous episodes, how would you say she's.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
Aged quite well? Actually, she's like looks better right, I don't.

Speaker 6 (05:58):
Know that I got quite that far.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
She looks like she finally got some sleep.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
It's different uniqueness.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
She's a trans halloweeny.

Speaker 6 (06:12):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
Okay, so pet health Guru, Yes, it was just Halloween.
What happened? Let's start here. What happens when our pets
get into our pillowcases and start eating our candy?

Speaker 6 (06:33):
Ah? She i just did a couple of shows on this.

Speaker 7 (06:37):
Actually, all that stuff that they list on the poisons
for your dog are pretty much if it's real, real food,
it's no problem.

Speaker 6 (06:49):
It's all men. It's a way of selling you a product.

Speaker 7 (06:52):
And that hotline is actually run by a nonprofit organization
that charges of.

Speaker 6 (06:59):
Fortune because your veterinarian can't tell you the truth. It's uh,
you know, the grapes, the chocolate, that sort of thing. However,
we have to you know, in those candies.

Speaker 7 (07:09):
The one thing we have to realize that most of
the chocolate in the market today isn't really chocolate. You know.

Speaker 6 (07:15):
It's not the cow, it's not the natural stuff.

Speaker 7 (07:17):
It's loaded with waxes and all kinds of preservatives, things
that will not allow it to melt, you know, So
you're not putting a food product into your body when
you eat that yourself. And of course the dog eating
cats are going to have the same issue with it.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
I like when they do that because then when I
leave my chocolate out in my vehicle in South Florida,
it doesn't make a mess of my vehicle, that's right.

Speaker 6 (07:43):
But when the dog eats it and you've got a mess.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Oh yeah, that's for sure. I've seen that too.

Speaker 6 (07:49):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
By the way, I was at Okay, so I was
at the green Market in West Palm Beach this weekend.
We had this booth where they were selling something for
pets that was it had well it was towted. Well

(08:12):
they're booth tow did THC and CBD. So I of
course went up to the booth and I'm like, you
can't really give THHC to an animal, especially a dog
or a cat. And they said it was just a
CBD because that's true. Uh, you know, and I want

(08:35):
to hear your viewpoint on what happened, especially like Stoners,
they love to get their dogs high.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Okay, who's that is that your store?

Speaker 6 (08:48):
Yeah, it's at the store. They're running through carts.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Where is your store?

Speaker 5 (08:53):
Tell everybody where your story is and what they what
they could get your store and how they could also,
you know, check out your online store.

Speaker 7 (09:01):
Right Well, the online is at my Paleo pet dot
com where we list most of our products on there.
And we're locating Pompino Beach, Florida, twenty two oh one
West Sample Road. We're right there at Sample and and
uh power line right next to one of the one
one of the best coffee people in the world.

Speaker 6 (09:23):
Blah blah.

Speaker 7 (09:27):
So uh that we're you know, our hours are pushed onlines.
We're not open every day, but uh you know we're open.
One is very very convenient. And uh we've got literally
thousand plus products in here that are here around well
pets and people. Actually in the evolution of this company
over the last twenty years. Uh, it doesn't look at

(09:49):
anything like your pet shop or a pet supply store anymore.
It's actually of my products in here are both for
people and pets. And uh, you know we do uh
raw diets people like mm hmmm, so people like Rebel absolutely,

(10:10):
but yeah, we do all kinds of herbals we do.

Speaker 6 (10:13):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (10:14):
Since we talked last time, we're pretty much aparmed a
table store out so your grass grass finished beef when
you're poultry with no grains and you know, n good
good proteins for both people and pets. Uh, pasture raised
a U all the raw dairy products, which of course
are in the news all over the place today. You know,

(10:34):
there are terms of you know, they just they don't
want us to be healthy, that's what they said.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
Uh, you know, why should we be healthy. Why should
we be healthy? It's too it makes people too much
money for you to be unhealthy.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Ohially your pets. Oh my god, what they charge.

Speaker 6 (10:52):
Oh ridiculous, it's going through the ceiling.

Speaker 7 (10:55):
You know, a big part of that problem is corporate medicine,
just like we have on the human side.

Speaker 6 (11:00):
Uh. You know, we've got one major company that's in
the candy business that makes foods and has bought is
now the world's number one employer of veterinarians. Uh.

Speaker 7 (11:12):
They brought off all the small hospitals. They then forced
those veterinarians that were independently minded that now follow a
corporate structure.

Speaker 6 (11:21):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (11:22):
They can't make decisions on their own. And it's it's
it's created this this monster, if you will. A lot
of the equipment that they use, you know, they're all
doing different scans, CT scans, MRIs and all of that
sort of thing. That equipment is actually the outdated equipment
from the human hospitals.

Speaker 6 (11:41):
The quality it's not there. Wow, it's a mess.

Speaker 7 (11:45):
And I mean, uh, they're looking at you know, two
three four increases in veterinary piece. And the other thing
is you know, of course, a big controversy on you know,
the v's you know the injectables preventions is they won't
even allow you in the office if you got up

(12:06):
to day and compliance.

Speaker 6 (12:11):
Even on an emergency basis.

Speaker 7 (12:13):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (12:13):
Crazy. And you know if you if you've got.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
A I'm in the wrong business. I gotta know you.

Speaker 6 (12:19):
Well, it depends on if you have any any kind
of morals. I guess.

Speaker 7 (12:23):
But you know the thing is is if you're going
into an emergency hospital, well, there's on the human side
or the animal side. My understanding twenty years ago, thirty
years ago, fifty years ago that you had to be seen.
Now they can turn you away at the door if
you don't have certain procedures.

Speaker 6 (12:44):
That have been done to your body. And it's just
getting worse or worse and worse.

Speaker 7 (12:50):
I say, just a typical office is that now is
anywhe's between five hundred and one thousand dollars.

Speaker 6 (12:56):
If you're going on an emergency.

Speaker 7 (12:57):
If you if they answered the phone you say, hey,
my dog's got is vomiting or his diarrhea, the first
thing under their mouth is, oh my god, that's an emergency.
That adds a thousand dollars under your bill without you
walking in the door.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
And Okay, so let's talk to our pipe nuts here
for a second. Long have you ever brought your chihuahua
to see Bill?

Speaker 3 (13:21):
I have not, and why not because I don't have one?

Speaker 5 (13:30):
Exactly, So, Rebel, when have you gone to visit Bill?
Because is that where you got your animal food for yourself?

Speaker 2 (13:44):
I've what I visit Bill online in place my.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
Order so animals can place her order too, online? Yes, exactly,
perfect right? It wouldn't if you could just train your
dog or cat to just go online to your store
and buy what they want. It'd be like your kids
with your credit card.

Speaker 6 (14:10):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
That sounds expensive.

Speaker 6 (14:14):
You have all these boxes showing up at your door,
and it's like.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
What uh they get? They get the rolls roy stroller?

Speaker 5 (14:24):
Like think about that as anybody ever thought about that
of if you were a dog or cat?

Speaker 3 (14:30):
What would you do?

Speaker 5 (14:31):
Like Bill, if you were a dog or cat, what
would you do about eating?

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Like Like if.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
You're if you're you know, humans are feeding you, Kimble,
what would you think if you were the dog or
the cat.

Speaker 6 (14:51):
I would think that.

Speaker 7 (14:54):
They just don't have the knowledge to do the right thing,
and then they complain when I have an upset stomach
I have diet real own the house. I'm vomiting and
they spend two thousand, three thousand and five thousand dollars
in the vest office. And yeah, those results to say,
there's nothing really wrong with them, and we ignore the
food part of it in the tree. I mean, our

(15:16):
health is dependent on what we put into our body completely.

Speaker 6 (15:22):
You know, if it doesn't go into body, it can't
hurt you.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
So like when the animals are out in the wild, okay,
are they eating kibble?

Speaker 7 (15:33):
I have not found a kibble tree yet. Then again,
I have found the money tree yet either.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
So well, they're all bunny trees.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
Because we we chop down trees to granate the piper
for the worthless money.

Speaker 7 (15:46):
That's right, and then we have to use it for
firewood so that we can stay warm because we can't
afford the liver bill.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
Exactly so, but we are saving a lot of money
now because with the end of snap, we don't have
to kill any trees to to make the food stamps.

Speaker 6 (16:03):
Exactly.

Speaker 7 (16:04):
Well there, but they're no, they're using the plastic now,
so you know we have to drill, baby drill.

Speaker 5 (16:11):
Oh there you go. So uh back to the CBD
THC thing. So like, from what I know, and correct
me if I'm wrong, THHC is definitely extremely toxic and
can kill your dog and or cat. And I really
do hate I always have. When you got these stoners

(16:31):
that think it's funny to get their pet high, okay,
like you chose to get high. It's like taking a
kid and forcing them to get high too, Like the
animal can't say no.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
And how do you know it's going to affect it? Now?

Speaker 5 (16:49):
Two part question? What is your viewpoint of what THC
can do to your pet? But now you got these
places because CBDs the popular thing.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Now should pets even have CBD? I don't know.

Speaker 7 (17:03):
Well, the truth of the matter is all mammals and
all warm blooded animals literally make their own CBDs. And
because we have that endocannabinoid system, and basically it works
in conjunction with our adrenals system. But instead of working
on a trauma like you know the adrenals, it's working

(17:24):
on inflammation. So your body is trying to fight that inflammation.
And when you take it, give it to your dog,
give it your cat, whatever animal you do, that basically
is going to turn on the receptor sites where that
inflammation is and then it floods the area. The body
does it itself, floods the area with hormones and enzymes,

(17:46):
blood cells, platelets, and.

Speaker 6 (17:50):
Nutrition to start the healing process.

Speaker 7 (17:53):
And the body, as you know, actually works on a
hierarchy where it's going to go to the worst one
the first time you take it. The next time you
take the dose, it's going to go to the next
worst inflammation area.

Speaker 6 (18:04):
So it's continuously.

Speaker 7 (18:05):
Working and it can be a game, see a changer,
But you have to what we found over the last
twenty years and actually it's been almost fifteen years working
with CBD, is that if we combine that with different
botanicals and herbal products, natural products, and even the right
foods when we take it after we ingest these foods,

(18:28):
it will send the right nutrition to the right area.
And that's an important part of the healing process. It's
not just for funning games or recreation. It's actually doing
the function. And of course, with our polluted bodies, you know,
we can't make enough CBD, We can't make enough of
most of the things that we need to detoxify it.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
Yeah, well, and it's true with you know humans, like
if you take CBD, for a specific thing like cancer, glaucoma,
it doesn't get or even THC it doesn't get you
high when it's usmatically, That's why I have this thing
like I don't think that, you know, the THAC or

(19:13):
CBD is medicine for everybody. I think it has medicinal
qualities and if it gets and if it gets you high,
it's not a medicinal quality.

Speaker 7 (19:25):
Now and the problem with CBD two is the quality.
I mean so many you know, when we first started
in the business, I partnered with one of the top
research groups that we're doing sustainable agriculture to raise it,
you know, USDA certified organics. We control the whole process
all the way through and so it's pure. I remember

(19:47):
in the yearly days, somebody tried to sell me bulk
CBD and when he came in, it was a different color.

Speaker 6 (19:54):
Different smell, and a different taste to it.

Speaker 7 (19:56):
We actually send it out to our lab you know,
we do do some laboratory work as well, and I
found out that it was one hundred percent vegetable oil
with no medicinal qualities at all, and wow turned into
a oh you know, I mean, there's a lot of
that in you withs reached drugs, and actually a lot of.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
It reminded mebe when I was a teenager and this
friend of mine went, you know, and got got some
pot from somebody, and it all was was parsley.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (20:27):
I mean I saw something this morning that they recalled,
uh something like one hundred thousand doses of a cholesterol medicine.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that was fake yeah wow.

Speaker 7 (20:40):
And you know, when you start taking this stuff, you
have no idea what you know, what's going on.

Speaker 6 (20:45):
You know, you're where.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
People just blindly listened to their vets and their doctors.
It's like, no, I remember when I had the first
heart attack, okay, which we're coming on like eight years now,
in December.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
My son was there and he's in the military, so
of course he has to be pro western medicine. You
know that that's the choice. And you know, I they
started to wheel me down to do a cardiac cath
like they started wheeling down. I'm like, whoa, where are
we going?

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (21:18):
You're going down for a cardiac cath. I'm like, no,
I'm not. I haven't even talked to a doctor yet.
And I and my son goes, y, just do what
they tell you to do, and I was like, no,
I'm not gonna just do what they tell me to do.
I want the doctor to come here, the one that's

(21:39):
going to be going inside my body, okay, and I
want to know everything, and I want to know what's
the worst case scenario and the best case scenario and
everything in between, which the doctor did end up doing,
and then I can make an intelligent choice. You have
to be your own advocate, for sure.

Speaker 6 (21:56):
Absolutely.

Speaker 7 (21:57):
It's it's it's interesting because we don't about this on
the Penthouse Cafe all the time, and we've included a
lot more with people and that.

Speaker 6 (22:04):
Sort of thing.

Speaker 7 (22:04):
But even today, with the way medicine is structured, whether
it's a visonary or on the human side, it's all
about specialty medicine. And to be honest, that is so
incomplete because Okay, you had a heart attack.

Speaker 6 (22:17):
What caused your heart attack? They don't know because.

Speaker 7 (22:21):
They're not looking at a root cause you know there
was something going on in your body, and when you
start tracking it back, okay, means your liver probably wasn't
functioning properly, so it wasn't filtering out all the bad
stuff that was going through your intestine in your mouth
and it just all accumulates. You know, we're breathing the chemtrails.

(22:42):
I have to mention that though too. Since October first
and the law went into effect here in Florida.

Speaker 6 (22:49):
The skies are a little bit bluer that has many chemtrails.

Speaker 7 (22:54):
However, federal law supersedes us, so the fence can still
spray us.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
Yeah, there you go, so rebel. You have pets. You
know you're a pet and and you I converted you
over to Bill many many years ago. What has been
your first and experience as the end user of how

(23:21):
life is in your house now with the Pet Health
Grew's advice and products.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Oh, they are living longer, they are getting better, They're
very active because I have older pets, they are so active.

Speaker 5 (23:44):
Hunger, nice and and then I assume your look now
is because of you know, all the healthy things you're
taking from Pet Health girl.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Let's make up make it by the way, which is
probably not good to be on for too long, but uh,
it's fun. And not only do my pets products from them,
but I and I find that it helps I don't

(24:20):
take medicaid. People like doctors wanted to throw at you.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
In this end.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
It's like somebody will ask, well, what are you taking?
Don't take anything? I don't wind would I? Oh, but
you're don't go there, doesn't You're just because you hit
a certain you know, time in your life doesn't mean
you need to take medication.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
And well that that's the thing too.

Speaker 5 (24:44):
That's a great comment, because how come all old people
have a whole medicine cabinet full of medication because.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
A doctor told them they needed it.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
I think I think it's more because if they fall
off their medication, they could look like revel.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
U.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Oh okay, that makes sense.

Speaker 6 (25:01):
Well it's not true, though, that all old people I
have a pileer of medication.

Speaker 7 (25:08):
I haven't so much as head of tiler all since
nineteen ninety four.

Speaker 6 (25:12):
I haven't seen an m D since nineteen ninety four.

Speaker 7 (25:16):
And I'm no youngster, although I keep getting cold and
I'm looking younger and younger rather than going the other way.
I still work seven days a week, you know, horrendous hours,
because I love what I do and you know, it
just keeps me going. But I eat clean and that's
even getting to be such a challenge today.

Speaker 6 (25:38):
A couple of weeks ago, we.

Speaker 7 (25:39):
Did a show on Health Cafe again that talked about
food ingredients and food labeling and.

Speaker 6 (25:49):
Just a good example.

Speaker 7 (25:50):
You know, everybody's pushing grass fed beef now, and first off,
almost all beef is grass fed at some point in
their life.

Speaker 6 (25:57):
So and of course they can even do it in
the feed lots. It's with pelleted foods and things like that.

Speaker 7 (26:03):
But then and then we had to move to the
names to grasp finish past your finish and when we
did some of the research on it, the past you
finish beef that's coming from all these big branches and
everything else. You know on the internet they're all selling
half cows and you know butcher boxes and stuff like
that that they're actually feeding those cattle not only the hay,

(26:27):
but things like high fruit, toasted corn, syrup, vegetable oil,
you know, grain bye products that we see in pet
foods all the time.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
There was a list of like thirty items, and then
one of the websites.

Speaker 7 (26:40):
I looked at it was actually the farmer telling how
they lobby the Department of Agriculture to let them mislabel
the food. Wow, I mean it's just horrendous and you
don't know what you're getting well.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
There definitely is so much more to talk about because
so much of that is going on in both humans
and animals. And that's why we am announcing right now
we have the Pet Health Guru is going to be
on the Positively Pipeman segment every Monday. We have the
Adventures of pipe Man one pm W four cy Radio

(27:17):
every Monday. But that's our that's where pipe Man gets
a little serious and more serious. And we will have
the Pet Health Guru on every Monday with tips and
helps help for all of you, not just that have pets,
but are humans too, and basically so we can help

(27:40):
everybody be healthier, happier, live longer and want to live longer,
because living longer is not enough if you're not in
good health. And let's get you off all the poison
and get you on all the good stuff.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
And that is with the Pet Health Care is going
to do and make sure.

Speaker 5 (28:01):
Okay, everybody needs to tune in also every week the
Pet Health Cafe. So Bill, real quick, well, you tell
everybody how they can watch your show and listen to
your show every week and how they can check out
your podcasts.

Speaker 7 (28:15):
Yeah, the pen Health Cafe airs every Thursday night at
eight o'clock on this state on W four.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
HC, YEP, W four C Radio, W four HC dot com.

Speaker 7 (28:29):
Facebook, we're on YouTube, all the other channels that are
listed on Pethealthcafe dot com.

Speaker 6 (28:37):
We're all over the place.

Speaker 7 (28:38):
And of course the other thing that's equally as important
is for everybody to share it. Of course, in subscribe
so we keep our algorithms high, but also to share
the archives with all your friends, because we know that
everybody doesn't have the same time schedule and that sort
of thing. It's up an available twenty four to seven
and many of these same venues. Uh, you know, we

(29:01):
invite you to listen in. We always have an open chat,
can answer your questions. We get some sometimes some weird questions,
as Rebel can tell you.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Well, look at rebels, she's weird.

Speaker 7 (29:11):
So I mean so, uh yeah, you know, we welcome
you there. And again, let's get let's spread this healthy message.
I mean that's the whole thing. Let's let's you know,
I keep hearing about uh you know, answer awareness month.
It's die of Ease Awareness month. Well why don't we
do something about it? And we can actually do that
with some of the tips that we give and some

(29:32):
of the you know ideas and that are coming from
a lot of a lot of realistic, you know, veterinarians
and human practitioners. Well, we just want to say one
one little last thing here is that if you're looking
at you know, on uh the internet a lot today,
we're finding a lot of doctors, a lot of veterinarians

(29:54):
that are actually giving up their license and starting consulting
businesses because then they can at least tell you the truth.
And that's an important part of the whole thing is
being able to get the truth, ask why, why?

Speaker 6 (30:07):
Why? Why? All the time.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
So if you want to hear the truth, tune into
Health Cafe every week. Tune into Positively pipe Man every
week for this truth, business truth, motivational truth, all kinds
of stuff like that. And in the meantime, pet Health
Grew you can hang out with us. We're going to
switch gears a little bit for the rest of this show.

(30:31):
And so basically I want to go over real quick.
Like I said, the Pipe Man Radio Tours is dribbling
down to an end. I've been since March, one weekend
after another. I have a couple more gigs coming up
for the rest of the year, but not the extensive
traveling that I've been doing. So I've been a little
time to spend here in South Florida. And I did

(30:52):
get to catch a couple gigs in South Florida, which
was amazing because not many times I get to do
that anymore. So I covered a show at the Culture
Room with my favorite venues in Fort Laurnell. It was
the Fear Factory Tour, but it was Byzantine was playing
with them, and so was mrsa Funny we should say

(31:13):
that and Byzantine. I sat down with OJ and we
had a great talk that in about two minutes you're
going to get to see the whole interview live on
site at the Culture Room.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
And then for Halloween.

Speaker 5 (31:31):
Okay, I thought of Rebel on Halloween because I was
at the place that where she first was able to
see a mosh pit, and it isn't as they made
that whole back area bigger and it's not like the
brick stuff. You would have been a lot safer. Okay,
there wasn't even a stage there this time. But another

(31:53):
band that I interviewed at Louder than Life, the Haunt,
played the Moonfest block party on Halloween. They played at
Respectable Street, one of my favorite West Palm Beach venues.
Check out on my podcast the Interview with the Haunt.
They are big up and comered. Or they had one

(32:16):
song that had like twenty five million streams recently. They
were so so good and it was a great show
at Respectables.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Love that venue.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
Always recommend it and make sure to keep tuning into
The Pipe Man at one pm Eastern Time, The Adventures
pipe Man Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Sometimes because I'm.

Speaker 5 (32:39):
Traveling, we may have a pre record show, but it's
still just as good. Or interviews, and check out the
podcasts anywhere you listen to podcasts. The Adventures of pipe Man,
pipe Man, the Pit Positively, pipe Main are all the
podcasts to check out. We have more coming. There's going
to be a new pipe Main show coming. Stay tuned

(33:00):
for that. We got something new. In the meantime. Thanks
pipe Nuts for being here. Everybody, stay here watching and
listening because one is about to roll that interview from
the show at the Culture Room on site. This is
the pipe Man talking and it's audio, so we made

(33:25):
you know, an audiogram out of it, but it's the
pipe Man talking to OJ and we're talking about the tour,
we're talking about upcoming stuff. We're talking and we have
some old school stories. You're gonna love this interview. And
thanks for being here on the Adventures of Pipe Man
on W four C Y Radio. Wan, let's roll Byzantine.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Hi, you lunt this censure? Wow, cra Young.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
This is to pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe
MANW four C Y Radio.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
And I'm here with OHJ from Byzantine. My full name
is Chris o'heeda nice.

Speaker 5 (34:26):
And you know it's funny because I had to tell
somebody outside how your band name's pronounced?

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Okay, and I.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
Always do at festivals. We were talking about festivals. I
always do it where the band introduced themselves because I
think the worst thing you could ever do is mispronounce
a band's name when you're doing press.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Absolutely like that's embarrassing. And there's some horrid ones out there.

Speaker 5 (34:50):
Oh yeah, there's been some. Now I'm like, I don't
really know. So what I do is I'll research and
I'll find another interview just to hear them how they
say the band name.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yes, that's it. I don't want to hear the interview
because sing with super Ball, you're oh, yeah, I still
can't say.

Speaker 5 (35:05):
There's some bands I know I saying it, still can't
say it, you know, no shit. And then like nowadays,
it's so hard to come up with a band name
because they're all taken, so they have like weird symbols
and backward letters or like, you know, I just interviewed
a band that they instead a they had like a

(35:26):
V in there instead of yeah, you know, because that's
what they could do.

Speaker 8 (35:32):
I feel fortunate to have started the band long enough,
long ago enough that we were able to get a
one word, cool, cool band name that actually was a
word and didn't have to come up with a fake word.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
Right, so and it actually means something. It does just
throwing something out there. Like I think it's cool too
when bands like they throw something out there and it's
like nobody has a clue or whatever. Like even I
remember back when and nobody knew what nib meant from
Sabbath right like, and it was like this big mystery

(36:08):
of what it meant. And you know, see, I think
that's brilliant because it's like people are going to just
like when you know, nineteen sixty nine radio show where
they said Paul McCartney was dead, you know, and I
know me, I was a kid. I bought every Beatles
album just to check out all the clues right him
being dead.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, yeah, it's just it's wild stuff.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
And today I think it's harder than ever for a band, right,
like to really come up with something brilliant to you know,
market people, because people have such a short attention span.

Speaker 8 (36:42):
Very short attention span. There is exponentially more signal to
noise ratio going on. Like there's so many bands and
so many platforms to listen to them, and it's like
we even we run into it. We're you know, right now,
we're currently out with Fear Factory. That's why we're here.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Right But every culture room right at the Colorida I
think we forgot.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
I forgot to say that this is one of my
favorite venues in South Florida.

Speaker 8 (37:11):
But every show we've done on this run, we're talking
to multiple people who are like, I can't I feel
ashamed that you've been around twenty five years and we've
never heard your name, or we've heard your name, never
checked it out. And I'm like, don't feel bad, You're
here now, I get it. There is a ton of
bands that I've slept on too, because there's too much

(37:34):
content out there.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
You know.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
It's funny too.

Speaker 5 (37:37):
Like I said this to you last time we talked,
that I found out about your music from Jose Yeah,
listening on Serious Exampment. I was like, man, they're pretty good.
I was like, reached out to Liz. I'm like, I
whan I interview this band.

Speaker 8 (37:53):
I guess all you got to do is hope that
you can land a good tour and really make an
impact with your live show, which I think we've been
doing really, really solid on this Fear Factory run. We
were perfectly primed for this run, and like the first
leg we did was them in Cavalierra Conspiracy, where we

(38:15):
were an older band. Our fans are that age group.
We all listened to Kosa D and D Manufacturer, So
putting us on this tour actually makes pretty sense.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
From a age perspective.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
I think it makes sense from a music perspective because
it's to me in the same area, you know, the
same type of vibe, type of thing. Funny, we were
just talking about Cavalier outside and I was saying to somebody,
so I did Bloodstock. That's one of my favorite festivals
do in the UK Okay and nail Bomb played Oh,

(38:51):
oh my god, it was like insane.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
It was in Siba's crowd ate that.

Speaker 5 (38:56):
Oh it was insane because I think it was like
their first show in twenty years or something.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
I think it's their last. Yeah it was.

Speaker 8 (39:02):
It was just played the nail Ball album and I
was like.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
Thank God I'm here because it's like those things, like
those final things, like who I have thought, going back
to the beginning, seventeen days later, we wouldn't have Ozzie, right, Like,
you don't think of those things, and it does happen,
you know. So I think people need to go check
out more bands all the time because you never know

(39:28):
when there might not be the next time.

Speaker 9 (39:31):
Right right, Yeah, not to get morbid on everything the
reality or if you retire, like Megadaths just put out
and they're putting out their final album yep.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
And I'm kind of laughing too because I went to
the first Metallica show ever really and Mustain came out
after the show and handed me his business cards and
Metallica power Metal. There was no thrash yet, Dave Mustain,
And then I'm looking at the song list on that
final album and the last song on the song list

(40:05):
is right the Lightning Really yeah, I'm thinking myself just
knowing the standlake because it's the last song that is
a big hello, that's yea my song.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
That's crazy right right, yeah?

Speaker 5 (40:20):
But what's been what's been the most fun or exciting
or crazy.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Thing that's happened so far? Playing that recently.

Speaker 8 (40:33):
I can tell you for myself what's been the most
what's been the most all inspiring and like a feather
in my hat, is that you know, we've we're massive
fans of Fear Factory. Our band has been inspired by

(40:54):
them and to be able to come out here and
have Dina asked me from the first day, Hey, you're
gonna go up and sing with us. You're gonna sing
a song with us every night, and I'm like what
he said, yeah, get your ass up here, o j U.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
So he didn't have to do that, not at all.

Speaker 8 (41:16):
And for him to be so welcoming and me Lo
then their singer, such a great kid, for him to
be like, all right, come up, let's work out of
our harmonies, because you know, on our two thousand and
seventeen release, we released a European version that had two
covers on it, and one was a Fear Factory song.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
So that is.

Speaker 8 (41:39):
One of the reasons why we got the NOD for
this tour is cause Dino heard the Pissed Christ cover
we did and he reached out to me on social
media to let me know that we did we did
he got.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
He gave us a stamp of approval. Nice. Yeah, that's
that's always good.

Speaker 6 (41:59):
Right.

Speaker 5 (41:59):
Oh yeah. Ever know what the original band's gonna think
when yeah, they'd.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Be like, I hate on it, but he loved it.

Speaker 8 (42:04):
And then when I get out here, he's like, you're
singing it every night with us.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
So I mean I could.

Speaker 8 (42:11):
End it after this tour and be like, man, I
did I got to sing with one of my favorite
bands on Earth ten nights in a row, you know.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
So that's been amazing.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
So if somebody came up to you and told you,
like twenty years ago that that was gonna happen, what
would you upset to them?

Speaker 8 (42:29):
No way, No, you're shitting me, no way. You know,
I've been blessed. The last tour we did was eight
years ago. Because we don't tour a lot. You know,
we're a domesticated, family oriented band who just so happens
to be on Metal Blaye Records. But eight years ago,
when our last album came out, we did a we
did a month long tour with Sacred Reich and I'm

(42:53):
a massive Sacred Rich fan as well. Grew up on Independent,
you know, like it, cut my teeth on it, and
the last show Sacred Reich allowed me to get up
and play Independent on guitar with them.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Nice.

Speaker 8 (43:05):
So I've been very fortunate to come away from these
bigger tours. They always say, never meet your heroes. I've
been able to come away from the last two and be.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Like, all my heroes are red. I've picked the right heroes. See.
I love hearing that.

Speaker 5 (43:20):
And I did see Sacred Riich at Hellfes this year,
so I was excited about that. But it's cool to
hear because like, people like to talk a lot of
shit and I and I've found that myself as a
press person, I don't listen to the other press people
because maybe you were the asshole is one I'm thinking
right and there I've been a couple of people that

(43:41):
artists that were talked about poorly upon by other press
people and then I, you know, and I shut that
shit out and then I would talk to them and
be like, what were those people thinking?

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Yeah, like, you know, I've heard that about.

Speaker 5 (43:56):
A few people that were people that I was like, oh,
and then they turn out to be the nicest people.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (44:03):
I mean to be honest, I was prepped by people
friends in the industry like Deno might not be the
nicest guy, and I'm like, Okay, well that's fine, we
will be uh, we will be respectful, we'll be good
boy scouts.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Well we'll play or stuff. Get out of his way.

Speaker 8 (44:21):
From the get go, he's been all, well, no, I'm
not listening to any of them.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 8 (44:28):
And conversely, we've run into people on tour in our
tour parties that are not nice guys.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
But I'm not gonna you know, uh, we don't. We
don't spread that word.

Speaker 8 (44:40):
We let people figure it out themselves because they might
run into a different situation than.

Speaker 5 (44:44):
We did exactly, So you never know. And I find
I have this scale as a press person. The icons
are cool as shit because they have no clue to icons,
and they're deserved for the music.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Yeah, that's why the icons.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
If you go into this, especially this genre, this type
of music, to become a rock star, you're not going
to become an icon, right, you know, you become an
icon because you just love playing music.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Period.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
Then you have the lower bands, the new bands, and
they need the promos so they're cool as hell. It's
usually the middle bands that maybe we're famous with one
song twenty years ago that nobody cares about anymore, and
they still have that ego like they think they're gods.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Yet the music.

Speaker 5 (45:31):
Yeah, you know, And I think just everybody should be
humble and be nice, and like, if you have bad
situations with people, that's one thing, but just you know,
just be cool and everybody else will be cool too.

Speaker 8 (45:44):
Oh yeah, I mean we're out here doing all this
for the love of nobody's making a ton of money.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
Yeah right.

Speaker 8 (45:50):
I'll make way more money in my day job than
I do this. So for me to come out here
and give anyone attitudes would be uh, you know, it
would be very detrimental to the band.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
And you know, I mean just me as a person.

Speaker 8 (46:06):
And then you hear you hear fans saying that bands
weren't nice to them sometimes and you never know it
was your fault, right, Well, you never know if that
band woke up and if they've got COVID running through
them and they all feel like shit, yeah, or one
of them, one of them has a father at the
house with Alzheimer's and they're thinking about them daily.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
It's a great point.

Speaker 8 (46:28):
Yeah, this is a tough, tough This is a tough
job to come out and put the right face on
every day.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
But uh, if you have the right.

Speaker 8 (46:36):
Torm party like we do right here with Fear Factory
and Byzantine, the uh, it's easy to keep your spirits higher.
And I think our fans and Fear Factories fans are
probably going to come away from this little run really
happy because they've been We'll see two bands getting along famously,

(46:57):
working well together.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
That's how that's how this whole thing is stays oiled.
And it's such hard work too.

Speaker 5 (47:02):
I think people don't realize that that just listened to
music or those shows, Like like you're saying, maybe somebody's
just tired because they've been on the road every day
for months, you know, and like whatever, Right, you just
don't know what somebody's going through. And to me, and
that's somebody that goes on tour doing festivals.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
I get it.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
It's like it's grueling sometimes. Yes, you love it, but
it's grueling sometimes and sometimes you wake up in the
morning you're.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
Like, I don't want to do this today until you
do it. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 8 (47:36):
So if you're listening out there and you know you've
ever had a bad situation with a touring band, it
just wants or whatever, it might have just been a fluke.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Yeah, exactly. Don't write us off.

Speaker 8 (47:48):
Sometimes we've we had you know, haven't had a good
place to shit in a week and right, Yeah, you
can imagine how that he is as a grown man.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (47:57):
You know what's funny about that is there's one question
should I usually ask in interviews, and that's like one
story good or bad that when you're like eighty, you
would you would tell people or tell your grandkids that
sticks on your mind. The number one answer in like
over three thousand interviews, the number one answer was shitting

(48:19):
my pants on stage.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Oh, I bet.

Speaker 8 (48:22):
I've heard that that can happen, right, God, that hasn't
any of us, But we don't toor a lot. But
there's some people out there that are always on the road,
always eating restaurant food. Three o'clock in that and may
or may not have to ship their pants y.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
Yeah, and if you're doing a couple hours set, like, you.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Can't just walk off stage and go take a shit,
you know, no, you can't. So crazy. What do you have?
You played Lauderdale before? Never really, it's first time in Lauderdale.

Speaker 8 (48:54):
First time, first time being in this area. Yeah, we've
only we've only toured Florida onces I think in our history,
and that was back in two thousand and four or five. Wow,
I think we did Orlando maybe somewhere up Tallahassee.

Speaker 5 (49:10):
Yeah, nobody wants to come down here because it's rough.
You got to come all the way down here to
go all the way back there.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
It's a longer drive. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (49:16):
We you know, we've done We've done Tallahassee, Jacksonville, Orlando
before and on this run we were fortunate enough to
come from New Orleans, do Destin and then Saint Pete, Orlando,
Saint Pete and down here and we love it, love
it now. We we have been the alternate band for

(49:37):
the Headbanger's ball Boat, which is leaving on November first.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (49:41):
Yeah, so that's one of the reasons why we were like,
you know, let's end the tour. Am I in the
uh Fort Lauderdale area. That way, if they call us
for the boat, we're thirty minutes from the dock.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
There you go. The call hasn't come yet, but uh
well I'm putting it out there.

Speaker 6 (49:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
If it does this time, it will be next year.
We're ready. There you go. Yeah, everyone on that boat.
Lamb of God.

Speaker 5 (50:06):
Yeah, that's one I haven't been and been at. I've
done ship rocked, Yeah, but I would like to do
that one. I just haven't haven't lined up, timing hasn't lined.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Maybe we can do it together next year. Yeah, there
you go, let's do that. Let's do that.

Speaker 8 (50:20):
Third interview is somewhere in the Gulf of Mexico.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
Right, So, I have a trivia question for you about
Fort Laurerdale.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
Oh okay, what is our nickname?

Speaker 5 (50:33):
Our meaning South Floridian's nickname for Fort Laurerdale.

Speaker 8 (50:37):
Okay, this has to be something you guys have named it.
It's not like a state wide thing or a country
wide thing. We won't find it in the geography book.

Speaker 5 (50:46):
No, no, no, no, And I'll give you a hint.
We were talking outside about spring break. Yeah, it has
something to do with stuff that goes on at spring
break or anywhere in South Florida.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Okay, time I.

Speaker 8 (51:00):
Would say, does it have anything to do with wet
t shirt contests or.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Girls going wild or what?

Speaker 5 (51:09):
It's not girls, but what goes along with that partying
is alcohol.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
So think alcohol.

Speaker 5 (51:18):
How you could fit that into the name of Fort
Lauderdale Fort Let's see, okay, and I'll give you another
hit your hand.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
I'll give you another hint.

Speaker 5 (51:30):
If it was referencing girls gone wild, it would have
to do with something you would do to that girl
down below.

Speaker 8 (51:39):
God, my mind is racing, don't I don't know. You're
gonna have to just tell me so Fort.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
Liquordale, Fort Lickordale, gotcha. Let me tell you.

Speaker 5 (51:50):
This is one place I don't know about anywhere else,
but this is one place that every morning you will
see people going into the convenience store and buying one
single beer and one single.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Cigarette, so the party doesn't stop. No, no, listen.

Speaker 5 (52:04):
They have the two o'clock bars, then they have the
three o'clock bars, the four o'clock bars, then they have
the after hours for five and six am, and then
when those closed, then there's the private after hours like
there they're bars, but they're like speakeas. He's like, you
have to know because it's illegal. You know, Like there

(52:27):
was this place near my studio that that's where you
would go when everywhere else was closed, and they'd be
doing cocaine lines on the bar because and and the
police substation was in the same plaza. That was the
That's that described South Florida right for liquor.

Speaker 8 (52:46):
Yeah, so I guess if I was down here in
my twenties thirties, i'd be at the three and four bars.
Now in my fifties, I'm at the Granola bars.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
So yeah, things have changed.

Speaker 5 (52:56):
That's funny because being in my fifties before we did
this interview, I went next door but like a protein bar.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Yeah, yeah, that was my bar. There you go, so
you don't shit your pants, right.

Speaker 5 (53:11):
So, anything else you want to share with the fans
that we haven't covered yet that may be coming up
for you guys.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
I'm the lookout for. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (53:19):
Well, you know, if you're a fan of our band,
then you know that we've just released our seventh album
on Metoblade Records. It's called Harbinger, and it's doing very well.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
We're playing really good. Thank you, Thank you. We're playing
a few tunes from that every night.

Speaker 8 (53:38):
Where it looks like we're going to go home for
the Winner because we'd like to.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
No one likes torn the Winner. We're from West Virginia,
so it's blustery.

Speaker 8 (53:46):
Uh so we're gonna go home, and I think we're
going to go straight into the studio. It's been eight
years since we released like two albums, and the guys
are so jazzed up after this Fear Factory kevl Air
run that they're like, let's go back in the studio.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
Let's immediately record shit.

Speaker 8 (54:02):
So I don't know if that means cover songs and
EP whatever, but we're gonna get right back onto it.

Speaker 5 (54:11):
So and one of my favorite cover songs that you do,
believe it or not is a Cars song.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
The Moving in Stereo. Y yes, that is like such
a badass.

Speaker 8 (54:22):
Thank you, We we you know, we are such big
Cars fans, especially like when the bass player sings like
drive and Moving in Stereo. There's some of our favorite
songs that he sang, and our guitar player, Brian, sounds
a lot like him. So we thought, man, let's dig

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into it. And we had no idea that serious sex.
M would gravitate towards it so much and they play
the hell out of it.

Speaker 5 (54:51):
Yeah, if you go onto Apple Music, it's like your
second most popular song.

Speaker 8 (54:56):
Yeah, so I guess the You know, if if anybody
from the Cars is out there listening and you saw
a spike in residuals for a month, right.

Speaker 6 (55:07):
It might be.

Speaker 5 (55:08):
It's funny because when I was in high school, people
used to call and say, oh, man, you look just
like ric Ocacic.

Speaker 7 (55:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:15):
Yeah, And I don't know if I took that as well. Yeah,
I think you're I was really skinny. Yeah, and I
was starting to grow my hair out, so I had
that same hairdoo you know.

Speaker 8 (55:27):
And uh, but the saving grace of that is ric
O Kacik pulled some of the most beautiful people women
on earth.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
And so there you go. Yeah that counts to me.
There you go.

Speaker 5 (55:40):
I'll tell you what one last thing too. You talk
about metal Blade, I'll tell you a story about Metal
Blade will blow your mind. So I lived in La.
My dad moved me to LA in nineteen eighty. Imagine
a time to move to La, Like, right, I mean
I went to Slayers first show I went to, like

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so many people's first show there. So there was this
record store in the valley called OZ Records. I love
talk about this anybody that's on Metal Blade and me
and I friends used to go in there and.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
This dude that was a record store clerk.

Speaker 5 (56:18):
Would you know, show us an album and like, you
need to get this album. That's how I got my
first Venom album. Show me Venom and he would show
us all the gigs to go to. That was Brian
slagel Oh, it was yeah. When he first started Metal Blade.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
He was working the record store.

Speaker 5 (56:36):
Yes, and I was like a few years back I
saw him. I'm like, man, I gotta tell you think
about it now, put a brilliant marketing plan. He goes, shit,
I was just a record store clerk.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
I didn't mean to do that. That's funny.

Speaker 8 (56:51):
Brian Slage was one of the most humble individuals right,
and he changed the face of heavy metal.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
And I might not be seen here if it weren't right. Yeah,
me either.

Speaker 8 (57:01):
And the interesting thing is the other great thing about
Brian slag was he's a testament that the heavy metal
keeps you young because he doesn't look like he's aged
more in ten years.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
In last forty.

Speaker 5 (57:14):
Yeah, he looks like he did when he worked at
OZ Records. Yeah, very young. It's wild, you know. Yeah,
well there you go. You're gonna be playing a killer
set here at Culture Room. I'm super excited and thanks
for being on the Adventures of Pipem.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
Thanks Dean, good talking to you again, my man.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipe Man.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
I'm w for CUI Radio.