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July 31, 2025 41 mins
When life feels unpredictable and the world feels overwhelming, how do you stay grounded, empowered, and aligned with your purpose?
In this episode we dive into “Cultivating Inner Resilience in Uncertain Times”. Discover how to build emotional and spiritual resilience so you can meet life’s challenges with grace, clarity, and courage.
We’ll explore tools to shift from fear to faith, release overwhelm, and reconnect to the strength of your soul.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:51):
Hello everyone, and welcome to the Inspired and Empowered Living
TV show for a thriving business and life. And we
are live on Thursdays at five pm Eastern on talk
for tv W four WN dot com and my YouTube channel.

(01:13):
Are you ready to live and Inspired and Empowered Life?
Today we will be talking about cultivating in an inner
resilience in uncertain times. And during today's show, you will

(01:35):
learn more about how to build emotional and spiritual resilience,
meeting life's challenges with grace, clarity, courage, and learn how
to shift from fear to faith, release overwhelm and learn

(01:59):
how to reconnect with your soul and together let's create
a life and a business you love. I'm your host,
Nancy Deutsch, licensed clinical social worker, certified hypnotherapist, and intuitive
business expert. I combine my counseling, coaching and intuitive abilities

(02:24):
to transform your life. And this show is not a
replacement for therapy or counseling. It is for educational purposes only.
So today we're going to be talking about resilience. It's
learning how to stay rooted and to stay present and

(02:47):
centered no matter what is happening around you.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
And it's learning.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
How to be mentally clear, spiritually clear. It's learning how
to tappen to your intuition and be able to come
from that place because you're feeling grounded, centered, aligned. It's

(03:16):
one of my spiritual teachers use this word, and when
I heard the word, it really resonated with me. It's
called spiritual poise. It's being able to be the eye
in the center of the storm, so feeling all the
things going on around you, and you are that center,

(03:40):
that core the calm no matter what is going on.
Or you can also imagine that you are the roots
from the trees going all the way down, that you're
a tree and you're going all the way down to
the center of the earth, and the earth has got

(04:01):
you and you're feeling that groundedness, centered, connected, and resilience
doesn't mean that you don't feel your feelings. Resilience mean
that you moved through your feelings. It's that emotional intelligence
that we talked about in other shows, and it's learning

(04:24):
to be able to move through those feelings so that
you can come back into that place of alignment. And
I can't even emphasize enough how important this skill is
and how much learning how to do this and knowing
that this is a process and that it's a journey.

(04:47):
It's not your destiny, it's not you want to move
towards the destination, and it's learning to be able to
move through it so that you can become more resilience
in these uncertain, crazy, chaotic times and know, and I
want you all to know, and I see Nikky that

(05:09):
you have a question.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
I'll get to in a sec I.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Want you all to know that I believe in you,
that you're listening to this show, whether you're listening live
or you're coming in a later time, that you have
it within you to be able to learn, because resilience
is a skill that can be learned. It's learning new

(05:33):
coping skills, learning new techniques, new ways of being so
that and it's also learning to practice those coping skills.
Learning to practice them then perhaps when you're not feeling
that you need them, so that when you're in that
place of crisis or challenge or struggle that you can

(05:59):
call upon those resources and come back to that place
of resilience and know that every single one of you
can do this, that you have it within you to
be able to do it. And we have a question
for Nicky. Nicky, how do you recognize you are or

(06:21):
have these roots? Okay, So, Micky, what I want you
to imagine? First of all, when I tell you or
talk to you about the roots, it's imagining, imagining that
you have your feet flat on the ground, and if
you want to imagine, or you're outside, or you can

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actually even go outside, and you want to imagine and
feel your feet connected to the earth and imagine those
roots going all the way down to the center of
the earth.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
And one of the ways that.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
You know that you are feeling more rooted or more
grounded is you're more present, You're more aware of what
you're feeling or sensing, or you're really able to focus
on what's happening right here right now. It's that ability

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to be present and aware. And so when I talk
about the roots, it's imagining those roots, and in that
imagining and also feeling feeling your feet in connection with
the earth, and that's a powerful way. Like if any

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of you, if you can take your shoes off, and
if you're inside and you have wooden floors, feel the
wood beneath your feet. If you have carpet, feel the
carpet and those roots going down. If you're outside, feel
the grass, feel the sand, feel the mud, or the

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puddles of water. We just had a major storm here,
so there's lots of puddles. Have you ever gone out
in the rain to.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Play in the rain?

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Not one of my favorite things, but some people really
love playing in the rain and feeling that energy of
that being able to feel yourself in connection with the earth,
feeling more ground and scented, present aligned. So that hopefully,
Nikki let me know if that help or if there's

(08:44):
any other questions around that. Misty, I see we have
a question from Misty. So Misty asked, what does it
say about a person who can stay calm all the time?
Couldn't that be a bad thing? Okay, So interesting question. Okay,
So and I have a few answers to that question. Okay,

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So it all depends, so if that person all right,
This is because if that person is denying their feelings
and their feeling numb. So resilience is not let me
let me resilience is not. Let me tell you what

(09:31):
it's not. It is not numbing out. It is not
overperforming or disconnecting. So if someone is calm because they're numb,
or they're calm because they disconnected from themselves and they've

(09:52):
actually numbed out, then it's not healthy and it's not
a good thing. And I'm gonna go deeper into what
resilience is not to help you all get a sense
of what it's not, and then we'll talk more about
what it is. And resilience is that emotional intelligence. It's

(10:16):
being able to be aware of your emotions, the fear,
the anger, grief, or whatever's coming up, and being able
to move through it so that you can get to
the car. And I do have a story an example,
but I really want to share it after I talk

(10:39):
about what it's not and then go back to what
it is, and I'll give you an example of.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
How I was resilient and probably.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
The most challenging time.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
In my life. So stay tuned.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
So basically that's so yes, staying calm and first of all,
calm all the time. If someone's calm all the time.
To me, that's suspicious if they but if they have
learned emotional intelligence and they remember, now this is really

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important for all of you. It's not being able to
stay calm all the time. It's how quickly you can
come back to the calm, how quickly you can come
back because you're using your tools and coping skills that

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can bring you back to the calm. So let's talk
a little bit more about So, Misty, hopefully that was
helpful and that answered your question. If you have any
more around what I just said or anything, then let
me know. So let's talk about what it is not.

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So resilience is not pushing yourself through at all costs.
All right, it's not I'm gonna push myself through this.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
It is not suppressing your emotions so or bypassing and
pretending everything is fine. Now, if to go back to
Misty's question, if someone's pretending that they're calm at all times,
that's not resilient. If they're coming back to calm, that

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is resilient. So that will be an easier way to
say that. So it's not hustling harder and pretending that
you're all positive.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
That's not resilient.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Again, it's not numbing out, it's not overperforming, and it's
not disconnecting. And when you override your emotional truth and
the name of being strong, that's not resilient. And what
happens is that it disconnects you from really being able

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to tap into that place of true resilience. Okay, So
I'm going to repeat that. So if you are trying
to do the emotional override in spiritual circles, we call
it spiritual why I can't I can't think of spiritual bypass?

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Okay, that's what.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
So if you're trying to do a spiritual bypass or
emotional bypass, oh, I'm calm, I got this, I'm okay,
but you're really not. That's not resilient, okay. And then
what happened is that when you're doing that, it's keeping
you from the very resilience you want to be. It's

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keeping you from the calm, the true calm, the true rooted, centered,
aligned calm that you want to be.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
I'm going to go.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Through my psych one oh one so that we're all
on the same page, because that way I can talk
more about this from this perspective and I also want
to talk more about the stress response reaction because in
these uncertain times, and here's a thing, no matter who

(14:45):
you are, where you're at, there's things that are happening
in your life, the state, the world, the country.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
That you're living in.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
And this is about Now here's the thing. This is
about learning how to be that calm no matter what
is happening, but not to do the bypass. So it's
not like it's not real. So I know, I keep
repeating myself, but I'm trying to make it really clear. Soltfully,

(15:21):
you can both Mickey, Misty, let me know if what
I'm saying is clear clearer and so also so when
you we're talking about your conscious mind. Your conscious mind
is the part of you that makes healthy conscious decisions, like,

(15:43):
for example, going back to Mickey's question, how do you
recognize that you are.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Or you have these roots?

Speaker 2 (15:53):
When you become aware that you have your feet on
the floor, you could be working with your breath and
you're feeling, you're feeling the floor, the ground, the earth
beneath you. When you're imagining in present tying the roots,
you're using your conscious mind to make that conscious decision.

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That's when you're at choice. That's resilient, That is you
being healthy and being resilient and helping you to move
towards states you need to be in the awareness in
order to know when you're not in resilient or when

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you need to ground yourself or center yourself or do
some kind of coping skill. And we're going to get
into all of those, even if it's not today, because
this is such an important topic, especially in these times,
these heptic, crazy uncertain times.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
It's really being learning to.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Be able to be that calm no matter what and
not deny your feelings, but to learn how to get back.
Resilience is not a state that you are always in
all the time. Remember, it's how quickly you can get
back using your tools and coping skills to become resilient.

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And I know, and here's the thing. In your business,
in your business, you're going to want to really learn
that resilience because in your life, in your business, it's
going to it's a game changer. It changes everything. And
the more resilient you are, the more you're going to

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be able to handle life and business challenges. So resilience
is something you want to cultivate to learn to know
to grow Okay, then you have your subconscious mind, and
your sub conscious mind, from the moment you will conceived
to present time has recorded every moment, every feeling, every belief.

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And so what happens is when you are not feeling resilient,
you're feeling numb or disconnected, or you're feeling anxious or
depressed or scared or angry, irritable of all kinds of emotion, fear, shame, grief, guilt, anger,

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all of those emotions or some of them. You may
not be feeling all at once, but being able to
move through the emotions. And what happens is your sub
conscious mind has stored those emotions when you've had experiences
in your life, and again that can also include ancestral

(18:58):
trauma and it can also include best life. So you
want to you want to be able to move through
the subconscious and learn what's going on in your subconscious
mind so that you can then take the action from
that conscious mind state of awareness.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Then your super.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Conscious mind is that part of you, it's coming back
to soul, it's being because I believe that that resilience
within you, the deepest, more powerful resilience you have, is
when you've connected to the higher aspects of yourself, your

(19:44):
higher self. That's why when I'm working with people, the
most important thing is helping them connect with their conscious
mind and their super conscious mind. After we've cleared the
emitting beliefs and emotions from the subconscious mind and getting
back to place of soul. Higher self and soul is

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where resilience is the most powerful way to be in.
The resilience is when you make that deeper connection to
higher self and soul, high yourself. The way I define
high your self is that wise, unconditionally loving part of you,

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every single one of you has your higher self and
your soul is the core energy essence of who you are,
the light, the love, the characteristics that you have brought
with you into this lifetime. And so it's coming back
to soul, resilience. This is coming to me right now,

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coming back to soul. You're coming back to you the
deepest part of you on this plan. That's true resilience.
That's what you want, where you want to be. So
another way to describe when you are in the fear

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and the fear spirals are when you are in playing
out worst case scenarios. The what ifs, because when I'm
working with my clients and they start going down the
what if rabbit hole? What if this happens, what if
that happens?

Speaker 3 (21:32):
What if? And what happens.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Is is when you go into the future what ifs,
you're going down the what if rabbit hole and you
do not want to be going down the what if
rabbit hole again. You want to come back the right here,
right now. And Okay. So one of the things I
also want to talk about the fear reaction and the

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stress reaction two times.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Now.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
If you're having a real life, real life crisis, it's
normal for fear to set in the fight, flight, or
freeze or fawn. And I'm going to get to pawn
shortly because i haven't talked about fawn, but I want
you all to learn more about.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
What fawn is too.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
So the stress response is instinctual, it's all part. It's
part of that subconscious mind. It's part it's that place
where that you react from that place and every single
animal order to survive. As the stress response, I call

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it really the stress reaction because you're reacting to what's happening,
and if you're in physical danger, it keeps you safe,
But what has happened over time, especially when you have
grown up in a lot of trauma, or you may
not even realize that you've had trauma. I can't even

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begin to tell you how many of my clients have
had trauma and they haven't even realized it until we
start working and clearing the energy of those limiting beliefs
and emotions. They didn't even realize that they had trauma.
And so this is about being able to know that

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that instinctual response has kept you safe. But if it
becomes chronic and you're in chronic fight, anger, aggression, all
of those energies, and if you want to know more
about the anger, we just did shows about anger, So
you can go to the YouTube channel, or you can

(24:02):
go to iHeart for the podcast, or you can go
to the other podcast sites Spotify, Pandora, Apple, Amazon and
many more. So if you want to understand anger more,
then you go back to the past shows. And again

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we have the emotional intelligence shows too. Everything builds on
each other.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Like my.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Wish, what I want for you, all of you is
I want to really support you in being more conscious aware,
connecting more deeply to who you really are, Your soul.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
So that you can live.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Thriving, inspired and empowered life and have that life, that business.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
That you have always dreamed of. You all deserve it.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
So Misty says, this is part of the issue for
lots of people. Uh, Misty, can you can you be specific?

Speaker 3 (25:07):
What is that is? What is that?

Speaker 2 (25:11):
So because I talked a lot, are you talking about
the going into that chronic because I'm not sure what
that is? So just let me know in the chat.
Is it that chronic state? Because when you're in anxiety
or you're in the what ifs, you can be in
that chronic state and then there's the fear. So the

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fear is that.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Place of.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
You could be that Oh my god, I'm so scared,
the anxiety, the not knowing.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Ah, thank you Misty.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Okay, so that is your You're right, a lot of
people don't even realize that they've had trauma, and maybe
maybe we need to do a show more about that
so that all of you under understand what is trauma
and understanding, oh, I've had trauma. Maybe you know what.

(26:09):
Thank you for saying that, because that makes me realize
I'm going to put that on my list of understanding
what trauma is so that all of you can understand, Oh, okay,
I've had trauma and learn about it, because I'm going
to tell you trauma affects your life, it affects your business,

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and if you're not aware of it, then it could
be running the show because your subconscious mind, those thoughts, beliefs,
emotions run the show if you are not allowing yourself
to work through them. And part of resilience is being

(26:55):
able to clear the trauma or go deeper so that
you can get back to that emotional emotional intelligence, which
is resilience. It's the coping skills, it's the coming back
to that calm. So yes, and so we have fight

(27:17):
the aggression. The flight is the fear, the freeze paralysis,
your stuck or you're just frozen and you feel like
you can't move. I'll give you an example of that.
So I've talked about Jenny and Jimmy and other shows,

(27:39):
and Jimmy would scream and yell at Jenny, and Jenny
wanted to communicate, wanted to take care of ourself, wanted
to do something, but she couldn't. She froze, and so
she would take whatever Jimmy was doing and saying was
emotionally abusive, and she could do anything about it until

(28:01):
she started working on it. And that's the freeze reaction.
And I see we have another, Charles says, going, Charles
ask going back to those who pretend to be calm
a numb, is that not healthy? So no, pretending that

(28:22):
you are calm or numb is not healthy. It's not
pretending to be calm a numb is it's actually a
survival mechanism for you for whoever, if you pretend to
be numb or calm when you're or when you may

(28:44):
not even know it, okay, because I want you to know.
You may think that you're calm, or you may not
even realize that you're numb. You may be pretending and
know it, or you may not even be aware of it.
So I'm hoping that the show may be even making

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you aware that you may be calm or numb and
you're pretending because inside you're frozen, or this is part
of that stress reaction that you're shaking. You're really underneath
the frozen is usually overwhelmed. Are there's so many feelings

(29:28):
happening that you are overwhelmed and you shut down, you
go numb and you can't even you may not function
or you may say numb. And I also want you
to know this is an important thing that I want
you all to know as well. The way that it's healthy,

(29:49):
okay is and this is survival. Remember I'm talking about
a survival mechanism. Is if you are in the middle
of a crisis. So if you're having something that you
have to deal with, and that could be a personal crisis,

(30:11):
it could be a business crisis, it could be a
health crisis, it could be a financial crisis, it could
be a natural disaster crisis. So for example, if you're
having if you're having or have had cancer, if you
have had a financial loss, you've lost your job, or

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you and you're doing whatever you need to do to
take care of yourself, to take care of your family, and.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
You're being calm in order to do that.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
That is you taking care of what you need to
So I really so that's what I also want you
to know about being calm. And then what happens after
the crisis is over. And I've had a lot and
also grief, like when you've lost a loved one that

(31:05):
has been close to you. It could be a child,
it could be a spouse, it could be a parent,
and you've lost a loved one and you're what we
call shock, the numbness that is your survival mechanism. So
I really, I hope I'm making clear that it's healthy

(31:29):
when it's helping you through a crisis or survival. But
what happens at some point is that you want to
heal it. You want to be able to move through
the emotions of whatever was coming up. Whether it's whether
it's the grief or the fear, or the anger or

(31:51):
the or the whatever, the emotion that you need to
move through so that you can come back. Resilience is
being able to move through it. But also, I really
want you to know that if you need to be
calm in the crisis, that's you doing what you need

(32:14):
to do to take care of yourself. So I'm hoping
I'm making that clear too. Okay, So Charles says, I'm
really glad that we're diving deep into this because this
is so important, especially in these times. Charles says, what
if you are numb inside and acting like nothing is wrong.

(32:39):
You appear to be okay on the outside to others,
but you don't feel anything okay. Thank you, Charles for
that question. So here's my question to you and all
of you, any of you who are in that place

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where you're not feeling, that's numb. You're numb and you're
not feeling. And if you have moved through the crisis,
and you move through what you've needed to move through,
then if you're still numb, you're shut down. You may
be what we call frozen. And I will get to fon,

(33:19):
but right now I want to talk more about what's
going on here, and I.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Also want you to know.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
And it's really so if you have moved through the
crisis and you're feeling, and you're not feeling, now here's
the thing.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
I want you to know that sometimes and very often,
you need someone, a safe someone to help you through it.
Sometimes we can't do this alone. That we need others' support,
like a counselor therapist to coach or support group to

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help us move through to be able to get to
the other side. Like if you're in the middle of a
divorce or a death and you have to deal with
what you have to deal with, totally makes sense. You're
doing what you need to, but then you're on the
other side of it and you're still numb. You're shut down.

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And I work with a lot of people that have
gone through the death, grief, or they're not even in grief,
they're not feeling or divorce or a loss of some
kind or some kind of health crisis, and they're shut
down that they're numb, they can't feel, and it's I

(34:48):
want you to know that it's common that you're not alone.
But I really want to support you to get the
support you need to help you move through it. So,
and I also want to just talk. I do have
a meditation for those of you who want to do
a meditation or those of you who want to read

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the PDF. I've created a meditation to support you in
this and it helps with the clearing, the connecting, the communicating,
the really allowing yourself to know the next thing that
you need to do. So it's go to Inspired and

(35:32):
Empowered Living the name of the show, Inspired and Empowered
Living dot com Forward slash Meditation meed I a t
io N so Inspired and Empowered Living dot com Forward

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slash Meditation and so being able to move through that
is really important and hopefully I made that clear enough.
You can let me know, Charles, if that makes sense
or any of you i'd like to hear, and I

(36:18):
let me just feel into if I'm to give you
the example, I'll wait to the next show. Okay, I
really want to. I'm gonna give you not an example
from my own life, but an example like what I
talked about. I'll give you an example of Sally. So

(36:42):
Sally went through she had cancer and she found out
she had cancer, and what when she found out? She
did everything she needed to do in order to move
through the crisis. She was the calm, strong person to

(37:05):
move through the crisis. But inside there was this small
little child that was really really scared. But she couldn't
even allow herself to feel or express because she had
a stay present for our family. She had to do

(37:29):
bring in the money, she had to contribute to the family,
and so she stayed calm in the crisis. And then
she came to me and the crisis was over, but
she was shut down and she was numb. And what
happened was we started helping her to move through the

(37:53):
feelings that she was actually really feeling during that time,
but she was not able to express at that time
because it wasn't safe for her to express. She had
to be strong in the face of the crisis. So
being strong in the face of a crisis is a

(38:15):
coping skill. It's a coping mechanism to help you move
through it. But in the long run, it's not going
to serve you. It's not going to serve you to
be resilient, because what you want to learn is to
be able to move through the emotions so that you

(38:36):
can come back to that place of truth, of true resilience.
I'm going to call it true resilience. Now, yes, there
was resilience because she coped in the during the crisis,
but she needed to process through the grief, the fear,
the anger, all of those emotions, and as she says,

(39:00):
through all those emotions she was able to come back
to feeling true resilient. Okay, So there, I know that
we have more and I see yet, Misty Anastasia. I
see your questions, and I want you to know I

(39:21):
want to give them voice because they're really all your
questions are important and I'm so grateful for all of
you who are asking the questions. So to be continued
next week, we're going to get to your questions, mister Anastasia,
and of course any others that come in who are live,
and if you want to, you can always type in

(39:43):
a question on YouTube and if you tab me, that
would be great because then I know that you're asking
a question and to be continued in Part two. So
we're going to talk more about cultivating the resilience in
the uncertain time times and that could be personal on
certain times. It could be world times, it could be

(40:06):
country times, it could be all of that, whether you're
going through that personal crisis and how to be able
to move through it so that you're in true resilience
and not in just survival. Okay, so stay tuned for
next week's show, and we are live on Thursdays at

(40:27):
five pm Eastern on TALKFORTV dot com, W four WN
dot com, my YouTube channel, and then you can hear
the podcast on iHeartRadio, Spotify, and door Front, Apple, Amazon
and many more. So Cultivating your Inner Resilience and Uncertain

(40:49):
Times Part two next week. I wish you all an amazing,
inspired and empowered day night, and we have a great
one everybody.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
By for now,
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