Aro Rose/Chris Wyse/Mike Mayhall

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Speaker 2 (00:29):
Gimmetective crazy, gave me you don't want to know?

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Please that plam.

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Give me.

Speaker 5 (00:59):
Thank you. Hey, Hello, what's up everybody? Welcome to the
Jimmy Stars Show with Ron Russell, bringing you the good
time to music, fashion, pop culture and entertainment. We got
a great show for you guys today. Before we get started,
let's say hi first to my cool, outrageous men about
town co host Ron Russell.

Speaker 6 (01:17):
I'm making out with my job alone.

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Astro's just say hi everybody. Yeah, that's just around, okay,
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Whoa hey everybody today. That's good, go bye, we'll have
a show to do. Honey, thank you.

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So say hi and I joined.

Speaker 6 (01:40):
I I did do hikay, what's up?

Speaker 5 (01:42):
Chat room? People are joining us in the chat room.
Now we have Cindy, Lady's in there. Stefan Bell. Hey, Stefan,
Hey Cindy, thanks for the promos. We have a great
show for you guys. Today we have Arrow Rose is
coming on. She hasn't been on for several years. She's
got to drop.

Speaker 6 (02:03):
She can sing like nobody's business and perform on a stage.
Was she great?

Speaker 5 (02:07):
And she did it? Has a new single with Chris
Wives from the Hollywood Vampires that we have Emmy nominee
Mike Mayhall. Michael Mayhall coming on with his new TV series,
The Madness of David Judge. And so it's going to
be a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (02:23):
All our shows are good, with the exception of a
few that we threw off the year because they were bitches.
But okay, so here's the update on my health everybody,
if you're interested, if you really care. We finally found
out what's wrong with me and it's called MGS because
we can't pronounce the whole thing, it's too long. But

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I have to take a shot every day for a
week once a month. So every month for a week
I go in for shots, and because my white cells
and my red cells a week in my bone marrow
and that's something that happens when you're old. So I

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searched with the doctor. Old, you're going to blame everything.
I'm old. He said, Well, as you age, your body
makes less whatever it is bone marrow, and that's what
causes this. And the infection that I had from the
operation figured it. So anyway, who gives a shit abun
all that crappy nonsense. I'm going to be better in

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about six months. But I'm feeling better already, I think
just knowing that, well, no, I think my body is
starting to heal itself also because I'm not in the
shot yet. But anyway, that's the story.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
Absolutely, and what's up chat room? And I also let
everybody know I don't have my big green cup today
because two minutes ago, right before we came on the air,
I moved my laptop for the chat room and I
knocked it over all over the floor. No, I didn't
break the glass. But that's why you don't see me
drinking out of it. It's the first time I don't know. Still,

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I'm not a clumsy funck like you. Yes, and you're
just sitting.

Speaker 6 (04:10):
Anyway. I hope everybody is doing well. Do you know
that people used to want these cups?

Speaker 5 (04:16):
Remember, yes, I have mine.

Speaker 6 (04:21):
That's where we bought them. And I have not a
clue where do we buy these cups?

Speaker 5 (04:25):
You remember, I don't know, someplace in Pennsylvania because we've
had them since we lived in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 6 (04:29):
Yeah, these cups are Oh, we've been.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
Using them on the show for like twelve years or
ten years.

Speaker 6 (04:33):
So ever, ever and ever, oh, let's see.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
So we want to thank everybody for listening. You can
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time and I think we broke twenty five thousand views

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on YouTube, which is a lot for us on YouTube.
And our show from the week before with Stephen Mott
and the mom from e T Now I forgot her
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I Michael Moron. Her name is, oh my god. Now

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I have to look it up. I'm sorry, but that show,
you guys is almost at fifty thousand mews just on YouTube,
so it's a really cool thing. And her name is
in that Wallace, Steve Wallace, Steve Wallace. There you go.

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I'm sorry, but we're busy right now because you know,
we're planning on move. So we're working on our house
to make it perfectly beautiful so when people come to
see it, they'll buy it.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
Yeah, we had a lot of stuff and then we
can move to Florida.

Speaker 6 (05:56):
Yay.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
Thanks lady, like said Dee Wallace in there. Thanks, So
they love Mark and all his people, so it's terrific
and so thanks everybody follow that. I also want to
thank everybody who downloaded my books. I'm starting to do
really well. They have several five stars. One of them
has twenty one five star reviews. One of them has
five star reviews. It's pretty good because I'm just starting,

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but I want to show them to you all anyway.
The Obsidian Circle, that's the one that we did for
free to see if we could get people. Lots of
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my other podcast, Collector's Corner with Jimmy Starr. It's doing
really well also, so thanks for all your support everybody
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Speaker 6 (07:07):
That we do. Okay, while working on his while we're
talking about books, the script that I wrote the Gift
of Magic. Everyone that read it, from Paul Cervino, Dan Olaney,
Kazan who everybody loved it, wanted to be in it.
But unfortunately we can't get anybody right now to finance it.

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So rather than just let it die or I have
no head for running around looking for money to make
a movie. I've decided to write it into a book.
I think it's going to make a fantastic book. Now,
when people read the book, somebody might say, oh, this
would make a great movie, and then they'll finance me.
There may be a new way of getting money or

(07:51):
a movie. My book will be about this Jewish woman
in nineteen forty three who is a bookie and she's
married to an Italian guy in the mafia, and what
they do and what they do with their family and
politics in the Nazison blowing up the Brooklyn Navy. It's
just an exciting book of fun, laughter, lots of good

(08:13):
jokes in it. And if you're Jewish you're gonna love it.
And if you're Italian you're gonna love it because I
brought out all of the not idiotcy, all of the
new odds of being Italian and Jewish. It's called the
Gift of Magic and.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
Fursed gift of magic.

Speaker 6 (08:33):
What is it?

Speaker 5 (08:33):
The cursed gift of magic?

Speaker 6 (08:35):
Is it the curse gift? Yes? No, just the gift
of magic or the curse gift. Yes, it's the gift,
curse gift of man. I mean, for right now, at
least we can change that anyway. It'll be out in
a couple of months.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
I'll show you guys in the channel and they're asking
if you guys want I have lots of copies of
all the books at home, so you can reach out
on Facebook, Instagram or just TikTok if you want an
autograph copy, I can like autograph it and send it
to you.

Speaker 6 (08:57):
And then I wrote quite a few plays in my day,
and I'm converting all my plays into books and they
have really interesting place, very very funny, and yes it's
gonna be great.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
So real quick, we're gonna take a quick music break.
When we come back, we're going to bring on our
first guests. This is Maximus's Tronic. We played this last week.
I got a very good response featuring uh Trina, and
they actually sent me the whole album of songs that
are coming out, including this song. I think this is
a great song, So enjoy. Maximus Tronics are last Kiss,
and then when we come back, we'll be on with

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our first set of guests. Enjoy you pull on.

Speaker 7 (09:37):
The glass one, sell yourself and everything will be fine,
and I'll watch my life flex sv show.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Kind of crapy cute.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
You light up.

Speaker 8 (10:03):
Another cigarette, and you say some things that I'll never forget.
But I can't walk away like some kind of fool,
and I'll take a head like you know, I never

(10:26):
thought we bet, I never got.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
The last chess was the less happiness? Now though we be,
we never know.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
What about est cheers?

Speaker 9 (10:48):
What the last shot happiness?

Speaker 8 (10:54):
You scream as you paun shout the door, and I
hold my head while I fall.

Speaker 10 (11:03):
To the floor, and I say to myself, there's more
life than this, and I'm afraid of myself that it's gone.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Stop.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
You cry when you see just.

Speaker 10 (11:22):
What you've done, and you hold my hands so there's
no wad.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
And I see right here.

Speaker 10 (11:33):
Like some kind of fool. You know, I be serious
like you know.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
How Now I can't we be there? I don't know
what what a the last cass?

Speaker 9 (11:53):
What the last time happiness?

Speaker 4 (11:56):
I know we did here? Who is not the last kids?
I'm the last shot happy. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
What to do about us.

Speaker 9 (12:15):
I don't know how to feel about us. I don't
know how to say.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
I don't know how to saving you.

Speaker 9 (12:24):
I don't know what to do about us. I don't
know how to feel bad.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
I don't know I.

Speaker 11 (12:38):
Only wanted love. I only want to love.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
I only wanted I wanted.

Speaker 12 (13:05):
Wokinggree it's all about me and that's not.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
Hey, everybody said that was our Last kissed by Lee Thomas,
who's Maximus Tronic.

Speaker 6 (13:41):
I love it unusual song because it's about a man
beating up a woman, and I think the subject matter
is really super sensitive. And this song is a is
a great tribute to the women that have survived abuse
from their husbands.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
Yes, and it's a really great show. So I'm gonna
bring on our first guest. Let's bring it on. Hi, Hey,
who are you a little?

Speaker 11 (14:06):
Hurry run?

Speaker 3 (14:07):
How are you you?

Speaker 6 (14:09):
My sweetie?

Speaker 5 (14:09):
You look faculous?

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Oh so do you guys? You guys, don't age you guys.

Speaker 6 (14:15):
You look like a woman. Now you're not a little girl, now, lady.

Speaker 13 (14:20):
I know I looked like a baby last time I
was on this podcast.

Speaker 5 (14:25):
So you were like twenty one then, right, Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Was freshly twenty one. So it's been a minute.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
And now you're twenty. That's probably three years, twenty.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Four seven, next year, yeah a twenty seven? Yeah, Oh
my god, I didn't realize it's.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
Been that long the whole time. COVID I'm out of it.

Speaker 6 (14:44):
I didn't realize you're almost my age.

Speaker 11 (14:46):
I know.

Speaker 6 (14:49):
I'm twenty nine.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
I know ron you look at I love it.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
So we have a chat room with a bunch of
people in it. So say hi to everybody in the
chat room.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
Hi.

Speaker 11 (14:58):
Everybody excited.

Speaker 6 (15:00):
And I have to tell our audiences Gala can sing, dance,
jump around. She's fabulous too. Johnny had an event in
New York City and she went on stage and cleaned up.
She really wrote the house down. What was the fella?
You were singing with the boy, the.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Man Johnny Soho? I sing with him?

Speaker 5 (15:21):
No, but didn't you sing with somebody else, like somebody
else young guy?

Speaker 3 (15:28):
No? I just I just sang Damaged with the drummer.

Speaker 13 (15:31):
And then I remember singing that Disney song and Johnny
Soho came on stage and we like sing together.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
We did like a duet on stage.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
But you can't really sings terrible.

Speaker 6 (15:46):
I told him that, I said, forget singing, stick stick
to acting, because he's a much better actor than I remember.
There was maybe the fella followed you, but there was
another act that was really good, and it was this
young guy. I think you may have followed your act.
For your act, were you a fabria? Everybody nuts when you.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Sung thank You.

Speaker 13 (16:06):
It was my first time performing in front of all
those people. I was so nervous. I was really so.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
So Okay, So you guys were talking about that. First
of all, it's Chris joining us, are not joining us
or you know us.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
We'll be here in a few minutes. But yes, he
is fine.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
So I'll save all that stuff. I'll save all that
stuff for later.

Speaker 6 (16:26):
We'll talk about what you want.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
So she has a new song, you guys. It's called
Heal Me. It comes out on October eleventh or she's
having a big party with the music video release. And
she did the song with Chris Wise, who's a member
of the Hollywood Vampires. He's one of the best guitarists
in the world. Bass bass players. Well, and that's still
considered a guitar or no, I don't think so. But

(16:49):
it's totally my bad bas.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
That's a stand up bass right here. It's an upgrade.

Speaker 5 (16:56):
Yes, if guys, he plays an upright he plays a
stand up bass. It playsgular bass also. But it's really cool.
We'll talk to him about it when he comes on.
But the last time Arrow came on. She had her
album Damaged, and we released the album Damaged. We didn't
release it, she released it. We had her come on.
She had two really great singles that did well. One
was Damaged, which is the title song. The other one
was I think called Tarrent Tarrent.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Last Yeah, yeah, that was about Alice in Wonderland, about.

Speaker 6 (17:21):
Alison wanted Land.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
So tell us a little bit about like the songs
that you do. Because you do songs, you know about
stuff that you see in movies in real life and
what you're going through and things like that. So let's
talk about that a little bit before we bring have
him come on, so we can how's your father?

Speaker 3 (17:37):
My dad is good. He'll be at the peril watching
right now. Yeah, he's awesome.

Speaker 13 (17:46):
He's very very supportive of honestly, couldn't do it without him.
He's just like very helpful and he really supports me
and he's like one.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Of my biggest fans.

Speaker 6 (17:56):
So suck where your father was so when you're corner
he is.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Yeah, No, he's great.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
Remember back then we went to dinner with Jack O'Halleran,
who was not and superman Italian restaurant and you and
your dad and Eileen was there and I was there,
and I think Billy has a whole bunch of fun.
I forgot he went to dinner.

Speaker 14 (18:16):
I know.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
I went to Frankie's on Melrose.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
You have some memory.

Speaker 13 (18:22):
We still go there to this day because of Jack.
We always we like go there once a week. Now
that we live here.

Speaker 11 (18:28):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
So now you live in l A, right, so you
can focus on all of this.

Speaker 11 (18:32):
I do.

Speaker 13 (18:32):
I just moved to LA and I signed my least August.
So okay, officially here for a month.

Speaker 5 (18:40):
And where were you before?

Speaker 3 (18:42):
I was living in Charleston, South Carolina.

Speaker 6 (18:45):
Okay, but you're from Wat's from Astoria.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
I'm from Manhattan. Bill's from Queens.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
Where your father was from a store, Queen's.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
He is from Queen's White Stone, Queens. And then I
was born and raised in Manhattan.

Speaker 6 (18:59):
Oh your Wardstone. Yeah, I'm from Queenens. I know all
of it.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (19:05):
He's born in Brooklyn, raised in Brooklyn and Astoria.

Speaker 13 (19:09):
Oh is he taught in a story though he was
a teacher in Astoria for like a long time, for
many years.

Speaker 5 (19:16):
I love it. I think it's cool, and I think
it's cool that you have such a fabulous father, you know,
who's so supportive of everything that you do. And you
have a very interesting backstory, which are you okay talking
about your backstory?

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (19:29):
Sure, of course, you guys, has a very unique backstory.
Her mother worked in.

Speaker 15 (19:33):
The horrible, horrible backstory in the Twin Towers, and she
unfortunately passed away on nine to eleven, which is now
it's like twenty it's like twenty five years ago.

Speaker 13 (19:47):
Yeah, next year will be the twenty fifth anniversary.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
Okay. So so basically you would have been like two
years old or one or two years old?

Speaker 3 (19:55):
I yeah, two and a half here, and so.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
She's she's I had a wonderful father, who's who's picking
up the reins as a as, both parents very supportive.
She's super talented. She went to I think you went
to the least Strasbourg Theater and Film Institute for a
little bit.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
Right, I did.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
I went to college. That was the initial dream.

Speaker 13 (20:17):
I did go to college for method acting, and I
spent and I went to high school.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
As well there. But I always wanted to be an actress.

Speaker 13 (20:26):
And then I started getting into music and kind of
weaned off acting a little bit, but that was always
the goal.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Was to act. Eventually, that's what my true passion. But
I still love music so dearly. It just used to
be a hobby and then it turned into more something serious.
But I'm grateful, you know, I'm so grateful to do music.
Music's amazing.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
Well you're beautiful too, so you could be an actress
and you could do them all. Really, no reason why
you could do one.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
I don't know. No men have gone career.

Speaker 6 (21:02):
All men are gay now because when girls like you
don't have a boyfriend them, it's hard. I gotta I
gotta tell you this. It's true that so many straight
guys are jumping each other. I don't know what the
hell it is a new trend or stupidity or what.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Oh, trust me, I know guys.

Speaker 6 (21:23):
Straight guys think nothing of tricking each other. I don't
know what is this bullshit?

Speaker 5 (21:29):
He's saying that to you because we saw Charlie She
and you.

Speaker 6 (21:32):
No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
No, yes.

Speaker 6 (21:39):
I'm talking about people that I know, straight guys. You know,
they think nothing of it. It's like a new thing.
So you bisexuality is I think the Democrats are pushing bisexuality,
well know, because of the transsexual So.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
What about what about though in the in LA though
you could also now that you're actually living there, you
can actually focus on acting and singing both while you're there.

Speaker 16 (22:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
No, I'm excited.

Speaker 8 (22:09):
You know.

Speaker 13 (22:09):
It's like I feel like when you live in LA
it's endless possibilities.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Even though Hollywood's been a little slow.

Speaker 13 (22:15):
I've talked to some people, some of my friends in
the industry, and they said, kind of ever since the strike,
or really ever since COVID, it seems to have slowed.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Down a lot.

Speaker 13 (22:24):
They're taking projects to different states. Like I know, Georgia
is a big state that they're filming in.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Taking a lot to New York.

Speaker 13 (22:31):
I don't really think in the next way as it
used to be, but I mean it's still a great
place to be.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
Texas will be the next big place. They got a
bunch of tech, so I think it'll be fun like
all the way around. So let's talk a little so
what I actually thought I would do. Maybe we'll do
it before Chris comes on. Actually, because you have another
song that you just released a couple of months ago,
and it's called Live Without You. And since we can't
play the new song yet, but we want people to

(22:57):
know what you sound like. I thought maybe we would
play that yeah that way until the eleventh of October
to hear the next one. How sad? Does that work
for you?

Speaker 11 (23:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (23:08):
That song is great.

Speaker 13 (23:09):
I did it with a Grammy Award winning producer, Scott.
He was amazing, an insanely talented producer. I mean, I
could have never done anything like that on my own.
He really helped me step out of my comfort zone
with that song because it's typically not the direction I
usually go in.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
But it was great to branch out and do something different.
It was super cool. So I really love that song.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
So tell us that the theme of the.

Speaker 13 (23:33):
Song, it's basically live without You is basically the acceptance
of living without someone that.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
You once loved and just time to move on.

Speaker 5 (23:45):
Basically, Oh so it could be Okay, that's actually a
serious subject.

Speaker 6 (23:50):
It's an inspirational song, and I like inspirational songs.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
It is we just play it for everybody. So what
I want you to do is you introduce it and
then you hang on. We'll play it for everybody and
we'll be right back. Okay, great, but you introduced it
as your.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Show about you by our rose.

Speaker 6 (24:10):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (24:10):
Enjoy everybody.

Speaker 8 (24:21):
So we've shown not only shown me, and no gott
so I wish we wouldn't gonna but nothing else whatever, No.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
We got it with all you.

Speaker 8 (24:56):
Taste ca eingin by my hosts days.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Let'sten and fun.

Speaker 8 (25:06):
Let still got you on my bread, Take strong God
and keep on going. Sup It was so, I says,
look back, Oh my God on high cloth.

Speaker 6 (25:25):
Want the problem I'm going got of God?

Speaker 8 (25:30):
Dot you so's not shown me? And now I got
a land. Wish we were again but nothing, that's whyever
and now I gotta live without.

Speaker 12 (25:50):
God.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
No God, but I.

Speaker 8 (26:01):
Presented and his two friends, friends, some loves facts strangers, So.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
I can.

Speaker 8 (26:19):
The clost gun of Bok keeps on in the left
side of my bed, big strong, gott keep on coming sold.
It was sober, almost sensing, lolcome back, and I got
a highest clothing on a gong going got a sty God.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
Thought he was so mad.

Speaker 17 (26:47):
He says, now how you show me?

Speaker 8 (26:50):
And no, my got aladi? Wish you were again, but
nothing last forever and no gotta let it was availing
is our leaders. Now it's gottacid. What we gotta let

(27:20):
it go?

Speaker 17 (27:26):
Saying because what we gotta.

Speaker 8 (27:28):
Lect gott al It was availing.

Speaker 12 (27:38):
Is a leader.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
No one's got.

Speaker 8 (27:42):
It was as.

Speaker 11 (28:01):
Heah, that's it.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
It rose you guys. The name of the song is
Live Without You. It's available on all the digital download
sites that you can go to. I was just telling
him while we were listening to it, like it didn't
seem to me that it's been like that long. Like
I really thought it was only like three years. I
didn't realize it's like five years. Time really went fast.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Time flies. I can't believe it.

Speaker 10 (28:22):
I know.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yeah, the first time I came on the show, I
was twenty one, so it's been.

Speaker 11 (28:26):
A minute time.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
I can't believe I turned twenty nine. It's like a miracle.
I mean, anyway, your song, I couldn't stop dancing in the.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
Gas, like moving. He's just had knee surgery and he's
still bouncing around.

Speaker 6 (28:40):
I'm bouncing my knee surgery or over. That's really good.
I love it. It's like a happy dance song.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:51):
So let me ask you a question. I think the
last time you were on and we talked about different
influences that you have, and I think you said Landa,
del Ray and Adele maybe, Yeah, still influences.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yes, one hundred percent. Lona del Rey has been my
number one. She's like my everything. I'm obsessed with her.

Speaker 13 (29:16):
I've been listening to her since I was like eleven
years old or twelve years old when she dropped her
first album.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Born to Die.

Speaker 13 (29:21):
So a lot of her music is very big. It
has a lot of like instrumental that's really my vibe.

Speaker 6 (29:30):
I like all of that.

Speaker 13 (29:31):
Like a lot of her stuff sounds like very orchestra
and all that sort of thing, big piano, very big sounds.
So I really love her, so I totally get And
her lyrics are very much like poetry, and that's how
I kind of write. I try to write more along
the lines of like very poetic. So yeah, a lot

(29:53):
of it's because of her.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
I like.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
So I have to be honest, like I think that
I probably don't. I couldn't name it. A lot of
dell a song, I probably do know. If I heard
it and you said, oh, that's Ana Delray, I'd probably
know because I listened to a lot of music. Adele,
on the other hand, I like love Adele, so like
I know all Adele's songs, But Lona del Ray, I don't.

Speaker 6 (30:12):
What about like, hey, hang on, did you know that
Johnny manthis has sold over three hundred and forty million records.

Speaker 11 (30:24):
I don't know that.

Speaker 6 (30:25):
You know, hundred and forty.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Sounds really familiar. I feel like I do know who
that is.

Speaker 5 (30:33):
She doesn't know Johnny Man.

Speaker 6 (30:34):
I'm gonna kill myself. You don't know who Johnny Man?
That don't know.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
I should know who he is.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
I think I do.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
He sounds really.

Speaker 6 (30:42):
Chances are though I rare silly green.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
Anyway, Look, I'm telling about this later because you'll know
that Johnny Mathis is say that bigger than Franks and
if bigger than anybody.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Back in the day, of course, of course, Okay, yeah,
I know.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
They didn't forties.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (31:01):
I only brought him up because he has full sound.
He travels with an orchestra, a big That's what I like.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
That's like, yeah, that's cool, that's really good.

Speaker 6 (31:11):
He has a real, real sound.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
I remember when we had you before, so, like, I
know you play piano. You don't play upright bass though, right.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
No, No, that that's Chris's specialty. I only played.

Speaker 5 (31:25):
You write songs and then you play the piano, like
because I remember seeing you play. Maybe you played in
a video or something because I've seen you play. Whoever's
there say.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Hi, Oh well, Chris is about to join us right now.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
Okay the song?

Speaker 3 (31:40):
So yes, he plays the bass, he's he's what's up.

Speaker 5 (31:48):
Longing?

Speaker 11 (31:51):
Nice to see you.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
Nice to see you too.

Speaker 6 (31:54):
You look like a rabbi.

Speaker 11 (31:57):
I could I could maybe double for one religious maybe
I could do a side job and do some advice
for people and spiritual advice.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
So hang on, wait, let me do an actual introduction
now that he's there too. So now you guys, now
we want to have on the Jimmy's welcome back to
the Jimmy Stars Show. Actually, Chris has never been here.
We have Arrow Rose, singer, songwriter, superstar in the making,
and then we have basically like bass rock god Chris Wise,
who's played with everybody and he's got his own band,

(32:31):
which I didn't know until yesterday. I've been listening to
your band al a lot in the last two days. Okay,
and so we want to welcome you to the show.
We haven't seen you in a long time. Hope everything
as well, and congratulations to the two of you on
the new single that's going to be dropping on October eleventh.

Speaker 11 (32:46):
Thank you, Yeah, it was really cool. I happened to
be in New York visiting my family. I was born
in Queen's as well.

Speaker 17 (32:54):
We're in Queens Woodside.

Speaker 11 (32:58):
I was born at Queen's Pedestrian or what do you
call it?

Speaker 6 (33:02):
There was there was a.

Speaker 11 (33:06):
Yeah right in there.

Speaker 6 (33:09):
When I was young, I hung out the bar in
Woodside called Bill Days and it was right next to
the White White Castle on Queens Boulevard.

Speaker 11 (33:21):
Oh wow, I hear about White Castle to this day.
That the burgers.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
My dad's still obsessed.

Speaker 5 (33:26):
I had a lot of fun, and I love White Castle.

Speaker 11 (33:29):
We don't have.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
We were just in New York about six or eight
weeks ago, and like I made sure that that was
one of our stops was to go to White Castle.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Since one in Vegas now too.

Speaker 11 (33:39):
Yeah that's cool because you can't.

Speaker 5 (33:41):
You can buy you know, the little frozen ones in
the grocery store, but they don't.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Taste like it's not the same.

Speaker 11 (33:46):
It's not fresh ray, yeah at all. It's My family
knows all about the you know. We're Irish New Yorkers.
My mom and dad were born in Ireland. They met
in Manhattan and got married and then here I am,
and so we have this shared Irish background. O'Connor. Wise

(34:07):
is actually old old English w y s he is
how you spell it. And you mentioned my band Owl.
That's been my band for many years. Right now I'm
working on a solo record where I'm layering upright bass
and you can see that at chriswise dot com. And
all these like dark gothic elements of stories I'm telling

(34:32):
I sort of incorporated on heal Me. So she asked
me if I would play upright bass on the record.
On the recording, and I listened to it and I
didn't really know what the song was going to be,
and I was like super excited because it was something
different for me since I'm a hard rock guy. Right
everything's pretty hard rock heavy metal. But being an upright

(34:54):
bass player, I could apply these sort of orchestral kind
of things. Is where I did Bow. I did some
some sort of orchestrating almost like orchestrating on the track.

Speaker 6 (35:07):
Then rang Chris, are you married?

Speaker 4 (35:11):
No?

Speaker 6 (35:11):
Oh, oh, You're like, I don't know what I heard
that way. Do you like blondes? Yeah? I do. Do
you're like twenty seven year old no, lesson you never know.
They may fall in love with they're working together. It

(35:37):
happens in white to the wedding.

Speaker 5 (35:39):
So wait a second. First, I want to brag. First
of all, you know what you were talking about because
I did a bunch of research on you, so I
would have some stuff. I saw you have a bunch
of cool singles Haunted Bass, Embryo and Children of the Cream,
Black Owl, Saint Jude Jack and Violent Center featuring Glenn Sobel,
which that why I liked a lot of this vocals.
But tell people, because I didn't know what I know

(36:00):
what an upright bassis. I didn't actually know there was
a difference. I introduced you at the beginning guitarist, and
she corrected me and said, I thought bass is a guitar,
so you were still a guitarist, but you're a bass guitarist.
And so tell everybody what's an upright bass because it's fascinating.

Speaker 11 (36:16):
Well, it's funny because rock and roll started with upright bass.
You go back to Elvis, there was no bass guitar.
Yet you go back and hear Heartbreak hotel it's a
little snare guitar, upright bass. And you brought up Johnny
Mathis he had upright bass. There was no bass guitar.
So it's the original form of bass. If you went

(36:37):
to go see an orchestra, you would see violin, viola, cello,
and double bass or upright bass they call it. And
I went to college for double bass, started working on
the bow. I was already a shredder on bass guitar
and pretty innovative in my teens. I was written up
in Guitar Magazine and Guitar for the Practice Musician and

(37:00):
all this stuff, and got a lot of press for
the way I played. But playing upright bass kept me humble.
It's like musical yoga. You never have it perfect, you know,
playing with a bow. Like if you were to picture
frets on a guitar, right frets on a bass are huge,
so your margin of error to be out of tune
is quite big. So it's it's a highly disciplined instrument

(37:23):
to play in tune even you know what I mean.
It's a constant SoC.

Speaker 6 (37:30):
But it's one of the most important instruments in music.
Is the bass. Well, without it, it's empty, it's tinny.

Speaker 11 (37:39):
It sounds like the band came in. When the bass
comes in, you know, and you you hear that.

Speaker 6 (37:44):
Boom boom, boom boo boom boom boom boom, everything starts
to work. Arrow. Do you think he's cute?

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Of core is beautiful beautiful?

Speaker 6 (37:53):
If you think he's sexy, Yeah, I'm I gotta, I
gotta knowledge one you married, she kind of start to
have a family kids.

Speaker 5 (38:06):
Let's first of all, let's let's brag a little you guys.
So Chris Wise obviously has his own band out, which
I didn't know, but you guys should look it up.
I actually I actually threw him. I had originally thrown
a Hollywood Vampires Live little clip that we were going
to play, but then I switched it out for an
OL video because I didn't know you had the band,
and I want to promote you know, your solo stuff.

(38:28):
But you guys, Chris has worked with everybody. He's a vocalist.
He's obviously like one of the best bases around, you
know Leland squar.

Speaker 11 (38:35):
Yeah. Oh yeah, well I've met him and I think
I love Yeah.

Speaker 5 (38:41):
She's the base guy too.

Speaker 6 (38:43):
He's he's a very good friend of us. So you
guys love him.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
Chris is play.

Speaker 6 (38:47):
He did a book and the book has all celebrities
doing that call.

Speaker 5 (38:52):
Everybody loves me and everybody in its shooting.

Speaker 6 (38:54):
And it's hysterical. And now he's doing a book too,
and Jimmy and Ill be in it.

Speaker 11 (38:59):
He said, we loved the second one. He's wonderful guy,
very cool.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
So you guys, Chris has played with the Cult, Ozzy Osbourne,
Rest in Peace, Ace Fraley, the Hollywood Vampires, obviously on.

Speaker 6 (39:11):
His own band al And I read online, I.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
Don't know if it was an interview or online someplace
that you were inspired by Iron Maiden Steve Harris to
play bass. Your website is Chris Wise dot com. And
we used to live I used to live. I'm from
Florida and in Boca. The lead singer guy from Iron
Maiden lives here. We used to see him all the time.
Now I can't think of his name.

Speaker 17 (39:33):
Yeah, yes, Ruce Dickinson.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
Yeah, he lives in Boca, or he used to, and
we used to see him at events all the time.

Speaker 11 (39:38):
Tremendous guy with not just the singing part. There's a
whole bunch of stuff going on there. Flying lamed the
jet for Iron Maiden and all that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (39:47):
Yeah, he's just sick and Iron Maiden like they were
like way ahead of the time.

Speaker 6 (39:51):
So this was a little bit.

Speaker 5 (39:52):
So I listened to all your solo stuff that you've
been putting out also where it's just the bass, and
you know, your talent is amazing that you can fit.

Speaker 6 (40:02):
It all in.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
How did working it around? Now going a little bit,
I'm going to assume that the song is a little
bit more poppy. How how was that for you? Because
it's kind of a different, a different than what you're
used to since you're like the rock god.

Speaker 11 (40:16):
Well, it wasn't different. You know, music's music to me.
I have a classical and sort of jazz background as well.
So this song, it was just a really good song,
which you need that to be the start point. Great vocal,
great voice, good lyrics, all the stuff and what's that looking.

Speaker 6 (40:39):
Available? And single gift from heaven? You make beautif't worry,
you make a beautiful couple. And I bet you shared Chris,
you're very handsome.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
He is.

Speaker 6 (40:59):
Covers take that being off. He's so good looking. So
what do you think about if you asked you to
go to dinner? Would you go to dinner? She does? Ready?

Speaker 8 (41:09):
I bete.

Speaker 6 (41:09):
If they have a thing going on already and they're
laughing at me, probably have a thing going on, and
they're saying, your stupid old fuck keep it up now.

Speaker 5 (41:18):
He's they say, you're not supposed to like what you're
not supposed to like ship, where you work.

Speaker 6 (41:27):
That's if you're banging a whole. Arrow is a good girl.
She's not a whore.

Speaker 11 (41:34):
That's that's actual.

Speaker 6 (41:35):
That is that's a fact. Arrow. I know your father's
on top of you if it never Oh are you
doing no?

Speaker 3 (41:43):
I'm not that That is very factual.

Speaker 8 (41:44):
I know that.

Speaker 6 (41:45):
Did you hear that, Chris? She's not a whore. It's
very very difficult to find abroad. That's not a slow business. Older,
So what do you? I'm older than you, And look
how wonderful I am.

Speaker 11 (42:03):
When someone has a good father and they're raised right,
that's absolutely hard.

Speaker 6 (42:10):
Dad and myself are very much alike because my daughter
Leslie was grunner up with Miss America. I had a
career going with her and I took care of her.
And she's not a whole either, She's just an old maid.

Speaker 11 (42:25):
I like the way you say it. It's you have
a particular Yeah.

Speaker 6 (42:29):
Yeah, you know a New York Now that's Brooklyn. Only
in Brooklyn do we say who? Yeah? Who? Are, Yeah, Well, back.

Speaker 11 (42:40):
To the track and how easy it was for me
really was was it was? The answer was, so I
have this electric upright in the corner here I was
traveling with that was in New York already. She invites
me onto the track and I listened to it and go, oh,
I could really do something cool with this, right, So
she said, would you play a bass solo? So instead

(43:02):
of just playing the bed of the track, the main
meat and potatoes, it didn't need anything too fancy, kind
of expressive, fretlessly fretless e kind of thing. And then
when I went to the solo and the outro, I
did some kind of melodic featuring the bass with the
bow and made it a little bit haunted because she

(43:23):
said she had this vampire theme for the video. And
then the first things off the top of my head,
Amanda was like, that's it, just keep going, just finish it,
and I was like, okay, cool because it was going
over well. So it was really natural to fit in
with her and her vibe and sort of the song

(43:44):
was already great, but I just went in and dressed
it up like a Christmas tree a bit for the
style of.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Song it was.

Speaker 11 (43:50):
And then we're We're done. I was like, played it
for a bunch of friends and they're like, this is great,
Like you shouldn't you should do more of this kind
of thing. So she invited me to do the video.
And in the video we had a live owl which
she brought for me, which was amazing.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
He was in a bunch of movies and same as Owl.

Speaker 11 (44:10):
Archie was a union Owl Union, he had a contract,
he had insurance, right yeah, And so we she really
went out with the video all out like Victorian Hollywood locations,
hired the Owl, actors and actresses, everything involved in the
whole thing really really cool. So I can't wait to Share.

Speaker 6 (44:33):
That you could be the new Sonny and Share.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
I love Sharre.

Speaker 11 (44:41):
This is a whole angle I didn't expect in the interview, but.

Speaker 6 (44:47):
I was in SHARE's company many years ago. And she's asleep.
She did, she went right to sleep as we were talking.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
I want to go back to go back to the
Owl for a second, because I think.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
The Owl thing is very close.

Speaker 5 (45:02):
Your instagram is Chris Wise owl man. You have a
band called Owl, you have a live owl. So what
was the Owl? What other movies was the Alan?

Speaker 16 (45:10):
Do you know?

Speaker 3 (45:11):
I don't know, but I believe his job. His mom
was in Harriet.

Speaker 6 (45:18):
It's a bird, I know that. So what was I
doing with that? Put the owl in the video? Yeh
ol video.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
Chris's thing, you know.

Speaker 11 (45:30):
Chris wise owl. It's also kind of gothic part of
the yeah, haunting nighttime stuff.

Speaker 6 (45:39):
Okay, No, I like love it.

Speaker 5 (45:41):
I think it's gonna be cool. So were you surprised
when you saw the owl?

Speaker 11 (45:45):
H Well, she she told me about it, and uh,
but I was very surprised that when you're in the
company of a real living owl. We were in shock.
You know, you hear about it all the time. But
the way they turn their head almost all the way around,
it's like a back around, you know.

Speaker 5 (46:01):
It's so did they like the trainer and the trainer
had the owl? Like did it fly or something?

Speaker 11 (46:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Multiple times it was mainly kind.

Speaker 6 (46:12):
Of owls are very vicious vicious, a.

Speaker 11 (46:17):
Real real mellow calm, and it would sit with us
and sort of sometimes I was like doing my bow
with the bass and it would sort of oh, and
it was pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
She was very cute. Yeah, I know. He was one
of the best actors in the video.

Speaker 11 (46:38):
Like a archie chill out over there. She was funny.
His name was Archie.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Yeah, he was so cute. Definitely a top two actor.

Speaker 6 (46:45):
Have you ever seen Arrow on stage performing?

Speaker 11 (46:50):
I think maybe at a party. I saw you get
up in jama songs because she she she.

Speaker 6 (46:55):
Did a number of solo affair in New York and
she on the stage moving like crazy and singing, and she.

Speaker 11 (47:03):
Never saw proper like you did.

Speaker 6 (47:05):
She really works the boards.

Speaker 11 (47:06):
She really is very good.

Speaker 6 (47:08):
She knows how to work the boards. She really is good.

Speaker 5 (47:11):
I like love it so so So what's the premise?

Speaker 9 (47:15):
Ear?

Speaker 5 (47:15):
I guess this is more for you since I guess
you wrote the song, so heal me. What's the actual
premise of the song?

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Man?

Speaker 5 (47:21):
I get the title Bylika. You know from your perspective,
what's the premise of the song.

Speaker 13 (47:26):
It was about how loving someone and it could be anybody.
It's not specifically necessarily about a significant other. It could
be about a parent, a friend, a lover, whoever. But
it's about loving someone that has demons and you can
either do that. Yes, Like you know different vices, I

(47:47):
guess like some people battle, you know, addiction, lust, anger, jealousy,
like all.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Of these different things that people battle and.

Speaker 6 (47:56):
How do you should not be with you should be
with Chris?

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Yeah, well so that but like it's yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 13 (48:05):
Like it basically is about expressing different kinds of demons
through these vampires, through these people, and we show like
scenes of jealousy, scenes of anger, all these sorts of things.
But it's basically about you can love someone so much,
but if they have demons and you don't want.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
To walk away from that, sometimes you could become that yourself.

Speaker 13 (48:27):
And so it's really interesting. It's a storyline. I do
act in it, which is really cool. The opening scene, yeah, yeah,
the opening scene is like a therapy scene, and then
I close it out with another acting scene. So it
basically sets up the idea of what's happening throughout the video.
It's supposed to be like some crazy schizophrenic dream, which

(48:49):
is interesting but cool.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
I think I read too though. Didn't you go to
school and study psychology?

Speaker 6 (48:55):
Also?

Speaker 8 (48:56):
I did?

Speaker 13 (48:57):
I did, unfortunately COVID ruin them, but I I was
in college for abnormal psychology. I was studying that and
then COVID happened, and I just I couldn't do online classes,
so I never went back.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
But I was pretty good at.

Speaker 6 (49:13):
So how do you find living in Hollywood or l I.

Speaker 13 (49:16):
Where I'm constantly analyzing everybody? I like, see it as
like a psychology.

Speaker 5 (49:21):
I wouldn't live in l A. Like living in l A.
I do like it, I do.

Speaker 6 (49:29):
I used to be fabulous sixty years ago. When I
moved to l A. It was the heaven on earth.
Everybody was a hippie and it was all love, and
it was a LA is a battle ground. It's disgusting,
it's filthy, it's idiots. I wouldn't live in l A
for free. That's why.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
Springs Right.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
Cemetery is the greatest.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Either, I've heard it beautiful. I've never been upon.

Speaker 6 (49:59):
We could make the zombie movie here without paying anybody
because people walking around or zombies, you know, they don't
they're jad yet it's.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
A great vacation spot though, right, that's what I've heard.

Speaker 6 (50:12):
Yeah, I would never come vacationing here. It's a thousand gays.
It's all fangs, gay.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Pele, the desert right gay people.

Speaker 11 (50:23):
It's Discovery gay.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
So we can say that they're gay.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
So that's okay for them to say that.

Speaker 12 (50:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (50:30):
So so let's go back to the whole vampire thing.
So first of all, like Ron's got a movie that's
coming up that when we get funny, he's gonna play
a vampire. You have a vampire us wait wait wait wait,
vampire goes with the whole like rock star stuff kind
of like stuff too with you. Are you both fans
of vampire stuff in the first place?

Speaker 11 (50:51):
Like I love vampire movies, yeah, pretty much all of it. Yeah,
I love the nineteen thirties to the black and white
you know, Bella Lagosi and all that. There's something really eerie.

Speaker 6 (51:03):
Eerie. Eerie is the.

Speaker 11 (51:06):
Romance of Hollywood mixed with that era, to me is
one of my favorites. It's almost the Frankenstein to where
all that stuff. And also for the theme of the song,
it's like she's talking about demons and stuff like that.
A lot of people romanticize getting bit by a vampire
as a way of getting saved from their life, but
actually it would just be getting the vampire's demons or whatever.

(51:28):
And another cool thing we just added. She was talking
about the acting scene in the beginning and the ending,
which is kind of it was music had no music
at this point, so she said, would you come to
the studio with your upright bass. I'll play piano and
we'll sort of write some sort of spooky intro and

(51:49):
outtro and we just started banging away boom boom boom,
piano bits bass, and we sort of saw the vision
and just sort of throwing it together. We were at
night Bird Studios over at the Sunset Marquis and it
just went so fast and so great, and it is this.
It sounds like American horror story something like that.

Speaker 6 (52:09):
It does.

Speaker 11 (52:10):
Yeah, we looked and it's amazing, you know, just piano
and upright bass, and I did some layers and she
didn't feel the layers. It just sounds so amazing. You
don't need much more than piano and upright bass and
a lot of the classics like Sinatra, Johnny Mathis, you know, back.

Speaker 6 (52:30):
To the big band some we used to call it.

Speaker 11 (52:34):
Yeah, yeah, And and the piano and the upright bass
is tremendous and so you can do whatever you want
with that format right there. And he wrote this new
intro and outro like outro credits right yeah. Yeah, it's
really cool, super spooky. So we compliment each other really well.
She's got the pop element, but also she leaned into

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the dark side a little bit with me and I
just kind of added those colors.

Speaker 13 (52:58):
No, he was incredible, truly. I'm just blown away by
his talent. He's amazing. I tell him all the time
he needs to start scoring movies.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. Next is that's
what you scause I listened to the songs. You should
score movies, and we work with a lot of movies,
so he should.

Speaker 6 (53:17):
The trends with Randy Edelman and we know what goes
into putting music into a movie.

Speaker 5 (53:23):
It's not He's scored like the Last of the Mohicans
and Triple Gs my cousin Vinnie.

Speaker 11 (53:28):
It's not easy, but I've got a knack for pulling
out the essence of the story and the sound.

Speaker 5 (53:34):
I might have some coming up that we might be
able to, like, actually see if you you would like
to do, because we've got stuff coming on. We actually
actually forgot about too, so on October twenty fifth. The
movie's probably not going to be great. It's a campy movie.
It's a fun movie. It's called Clown Motel Three Ways
to Hell. They're having a red properate premiere. Ron's got
a really big.

Speaker 6 (53:54):
Role in it.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
Oh, it's two o'clock in the afternoon, so aero like,
you know, you and your father Chris could come anybody
if you want to come, I have like I'm in
charge of Like that was the fun.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
I would love that.

Speaker 11 (54:06):
Yeah, I would love it too. Yeah. And I loved
the theatrical thing mixed with music so much. What got
me really, I was doing it since I was a teenager,
writing theatrical sounding songs and stuff like Jack is about
Jack the Ripper as opposed to writing, you know, a
little three minute thing. Haunted Bass is about the bass
behind me having sometimes its own little spirit in life

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to it. I felt like maybe I've been carrying around
a spirit with me at times. It's very interesting little
story there. That's cool. But I did a thing called
a Pitiful Beauty on the Hollywood Vampires record where I
played like a like ten or twelve upright basis and
created a string piece. And Tommy in the Hot Hollywood
Vampires said would you do something like that? And Johnny

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Depp called it a pitiful Beauty. Alice and Joe loved it.
And it's just a little spooky bow piece on the record.
And then I thought, man, I should just do this
for myself too and put out these because I can
churn that out all day long. And you know, as
Amanda saw, like, I have a lot of I have
a toolbox of all kinds of song ideas and melodies

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at all times. And I really like the dark stuff,
which is I don't like it to.

Speaker 5 (55:17):
Be horror movies. Like I've got a horror movie that
I think is going to get done soon, and you
guys would be super interested in it, and it's funny.
So I was a clothing designer for many many years
in Florida, and I made one of a kind clothes.
I dressed all kinds of like like Stephen Tyler was
in there, like all kinds of people because Johnny Depp's

(55:42):
vand is the kids or whatever, like they're from Fort
Lauderdale and they used to shop in the store all
the time. Johnny Depp only came once, but the rest
of them have shopped. One of them used to come
every week and buy stuff every time they were playing places.
And so it was a lot of fun. And I
think that, you know, I'd love to have you guys
come and your father too, Eero, if you want to
come to the new information that nice to see you

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be nice to see you at the Hotel three thing
and I'll get you love that photographers and everything.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Are you guys going to be at the premiere?

Speaker 6 (56:11):
Yeah, okay, it's the world premiere. They're going to make
a which premiere?

Speaker 5 (56:15):
Are you talking about our premiere in the eleven and
he's not an I am?

Speaker 11 (56:19):
Oh kay, Well you're going to see us perform together. Yeah,
I'm playing up right bass. We got a drummer, a
great drummer and guitar player, and she's going to be
on a grand piano and we're going to perform the
song and then you're gonna see the video, which I'm
excited some of the scenes she put together for me.
I was just like, oh god, it's easy to beat

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the cherry on the on the Sunday here, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 6 (56:43):
It was.

Speaker 11 (56:43):
It was all set up really cool, guys.

Speaker 5 (56:47):
It's October eleventh at eight pm at the Three Clubs.
From eight to nine thirty, it's VIP guests only. After
that it's opened everybody, but they won't be playing until
after nine thirty, so you'll you'll won't miss the premiere
if you want to and it'll be open to the
public after nine point thirty.

Speaker 11 (57:02):
That's right. Yeah, the three clubs, the three clubs on
Vine there it's becoming a real come like the rock
and Roll or Hollywood, a.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
New spot like the new like rock and roll spot.
It's really cool.

Speaker 11 (57:14):
It's my friend owns sawtooth instruments and it's it's a
new stage that they built there. My next door neighbor
owns the club. So it's all just again with with Arrow,
It's all just everything's just jelly, you know, this happening.

Speaker 5 (57:29):
It got one two through five Other bands playing Amber Wild,
Dlheny Drive, Wiza, Jain, Kelly Phoenix, and Francis von Biper
And is Paul Stanley's son, Evan Stanley's band.

Speaker 13 (57:41):
Yeah, he is real cool. Amber Wild's awesome. He's headlining it,
so that's really exciting that he's.

Speaker 14 (57:46):
Going to do it.

Speaker 11 (57:47):
Yeah, I worked. I was in Paul's band for a bit,
and I was in Ace Freeli's band for about four
years and we did a video for Fire and Water
where I was in a video with Paul and Ace
and that was the first time they worked together in
like eighteen years. But in recent few years before that,
I was in different versions of bands. Paul was doing,

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like a rock band and then sort of a motown thing.
I joined him on some and yeah, motown and find
the recording for Ace. It was just like full circle
with the K and I'm a Kiss fan from being
eight years old and me too.

Speaker 5 (58:24):
Yeah, I have the eighteen inch figures that stand on
the rocks and you push the button and each one
plays a different song. Oh cool, cool like action figures.
So I have a tunnel.

Speaker 11 (58:34):
Yeah, Kiss, Kiss inspired my whole direction, Kiss and Iron Maiden.
When you see my solo stuff, you get it and
that sort of the you know, it's not darkness for
darkness sake for being bad or anything. It's just I
love evoking emotion and she does too with her voice,
so dismination of.

Speaker 6 (58:53):
And that's wonderful.

Speaker 5 (58:55):
I actually saw Kiss when I was like twelve. They
were like freaking like.

Speaker 11 (58:59):
A man is cool. Well, I'm always like Kiss fan experience,
you know, they created all that. But Evan's a great
guy by the way, and great music.

Speaker 17 (59:09):
Yeah, he's arrow.

Speaker 6 (59:12):
He has a nice personality. He's a good talker, so
you wouldn't be word with him normally. Gave up. I
would never get it, but it's very important to have
him mate that's conversational interesting. The worst thing is to

(59:32):
be married to a dead beat just they like a
schmuck and doesn't say a word. Crazy. This guy, this
Chris has got a good point about if.

Speaker 11 (59:42):
He was gay.

Speaker 6 (59:43):
If he was gay, I grab him.

Speaker 5 (59:47):
We have like five or six minutes left. But I
want people to hear Owl because it's cool and this
is the I don't know the other songs are better.
I picked the video for Pusher because the video is
really good with the cartoons.

Speaker 11 (59:58):
Yeah, that was Batman illustrat that. So not to confuse everyone,
I've always been like Chris wisely Owl. My band is
like a songwriting centric band, and the stuff I'm doing lately,
I'm doing solo stuff and I'm taking liberties to just
layer bases, which is not a band. It's just a

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solo record. Instead of boring you with like a jazz
fusion kind of thing, I'm coming up with concepts like
theater movie concepts. And I made the layman or the
non musician can go. I love that song, Jack, you know,
so they can enjoy it too. I didn't want to
bore you with just all the flash I incorporated for everybody.

Speaker 5 (01:00:37):
You know, Oh, absolutely, so I want you to introduce it.
I introduced the video, and then we'll play it for everybody,
and then when we come back, we'll probably have three
or four minutes maybe, and then we'll talk about it.

Speaker 11 (01:00:48):
And yeah, the Pusher is kind of like reinterpreting addiction
through a relationship where you're addicted to the relationship and
all of us in the video get murdered by the
woman essentially, but the first guy gets pushed off off
a big patio, someone gets run over, and you'll see,
like we all kind.

Speaker 6 (01:01:07):
Of get don't give it a word.

Speaker 11 (01:01:10):
There you go, guys, That's that's kind of the idea.

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
All right, everybody, here's Chriss van Allen. Here's the music
video for Pusher. Enjoy Day from Dreaming.

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
It's like waiting up nice but you.

Speaker 12 (01:01:58):
Line way to the way, the line the woe shade.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
You want the shore show on, shakepead, you want about
not take my hand, you.

Speaker 5 (01:02:26):
Want shall go Shamela, you want about take.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
My head mind.

Speaker 12 (01:02:40):
Nothing inside hind feeling.

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
In these days the side way it girl, and you
let the ship shout, ship Ship, Ship Ship you are ship,

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you are the number said, you are.

Speaker 7 (01:04:44):
Ship you s.

Speaker 6 (01:05:18):
Hey, Chris, I have advice. Listen. I'm eighty five years old, Chris,
So I have a good mind. Get rid of the beard.
You are so handsome that video. Look you see you,
he's really super handsome and really good looking. I would

(01:05:38):
get rid of the beard. You know, ugly people wear beards,
because I would never have a beard and hide my
beautiful ad Also, I want to talk about age. Jimmy
and I are married. We're twenty three years different and
we're very happy. And we're married.

Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
Third twenty four years different.

Speaker 11 (01:06:02):
Oh wow.

Speaker 6 (01:06:03):
Yeah, I'm eighty five, he's sixty. Oh wow. So if
a guy who's a little older doesn't mean any man,
older men make very good husbands. You know the book
She Hates Me Age Boait. He's at an age now
where he's over banging everybody doing drugs, and then they

(01:06:25):
grow up. Now he's now he's a perfect guy.

Speaker 11 (01:06:31):
Hey, we only have we.

Speaker 5 (01:06:32):
Only have a couple of minutes. I want to go
back to al Rehu. So, first of all, one reason
why I picked the video number one is I'm a
big comic book person, and I thought the comics in
it were great. The al stuff and it is great,
but it really focuses. Yeah, you're like one of the
greatest bass players ever, but you can fucking sing like
that ship That song is dope.

Speaker 6 (01:06:49):
Like You're really a lot. You're got a lot going
for you. Chris. Thanks.

Speaker 11 (01:06:53):
I'm thinking about bringing the band back, you know that.
That's I've been doing the solo stuff to express myself
in a different way because I I don't know how
I do this solo stuff with the band at this
point because there's ten or gright basses, for example on
Haunted bass. You know, that might fit a movie soundtrack
much more than a rock band, you know, right.

Speaker 5 (01:07:11):
Yeah, your base stuff fits soundtracks. But as far as
like like you could easily you know, run, you don't
get an opportunity. I don't think to show your vocal
ability playing bass for all these big bands, you know,
but in your own band, like, your vocals are really
strong than you.

Speaker 6 (01:07:28):
And I believe if you've got it, you don't lose it.
It comes back.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
He's a great singer.

Speaker 11 (01:07:34):
Yeah, I don't think some.

Speaker 6 (01:07:35):
People just don't have it. Nicko Whistle Dixie. So they're
a hundred trying to sound good and it sound like sure.

Speaker 5 (01:07:40):
In the chat room, they said, lots of women like beards.

Speaker 11 (01:07:44):
I know why they like when I shaved years ago.

Speaker 6 (01:07:49):
We had mustaches in the seventies if we called them
pussy bumpers. But now they want beards because they want
beard banging. I mean, you know, it's it's surgic to
but I think he's so handsome from the video I
got I sent to you. My god, this guy could
be a movie storry. So handsome.

Speaker 11 (01:08:08):
But thanks for talking about my music, and I'm really
happy to compliment this new music with Arrow.

Speaker 6 (01:08:18):
It's really you're making nice guys.

Speaker 5 (01:08:21):
So you guys, The debut of Arrow Rose featuring Wise
is October eleventh at the Three Clubs. Once the video
is actually released, we'll play it on the show after that,
because thank you, everybody can see it, and I think
you guys are gonna love it. I have not seen
the video, but I have heard the song and it
is killer. You guys are gonna like love it. We're

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just not allowed to talk about it or play about
We're not allowed to play it yet, but you guys
will be able to hear it. It's only a couple
of it's only ten days away and it's going to
be a great event. If you want to go, hit
me up on social media or just go to the club.
It's a you know, after nine thirty you can get in.
And we want to thank you well. Congratulations Aero. I'm
so happy you're back. I'm happy you're in La.

Speaker 6 (01:09:01):
Nice to see.

Speaker 5 (01:09:01):
We haven't seen you in a long time. I'm happy
to see you. And don't forget keep October twenty fifth
open and I'll send the invite and I'll get you
on the list to go to the premiere.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
Thank you, love you.

Speaker 5 (01:09:14):
Guys, so thank you so much, see you soon.

Speaker 11 (01:09:18):
Thanks so much.

Speaker 5 (01:09:18):
It was fine.

Speaker 11 (01:09:19):
Love you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:09:21):
I can't belit. You guys are going to love it.
And Arrow is so cool. So it's a lot of fun.
And now we're going to bring on our next guest,
Mike Mayhall. He was on our show.

Speaker 11 (01:09:32):
I don't know, a long time ago.

Speaker 5 (01:09:33):
I think maybe right before we moved here or right
when we first moved here. So let's bring Mike on.
Let's see if he's there.

Speaker 6 (01:09:39):
Hey, hey, Mike, how are you.

Speaker 17 (01:09:41):
I'm good man, how are you guys?

Speaker 6 (01:09:43):
You're very brave to do our show again.

Speaker 5 (01:09:47):
I remember having a good time, the first time, I
edit it absolutely. So we had Mike on and we're
gonna be talking about his new TV series called The
Madness of David Judge, of which this is Jeremy Sandy,
who is David Judge in the Madness of David Judge.
And then we've also probably going to do another show
in October with the cast because Mike's girlfriend Sarah, who

(01:10:10):
was also a guest on the show about seven or
eight years ago, I think, is also starring in it.
And but before we do that, let's do an interest So, hey, everybody,
now we want to welcome to the Jimmy Star Show
with Lawn Muscle, Emmy nominated. He's a director, producer, playwright, stuntman,
actor Mike Mayhall with his sidekick Jeremy Sandy. Today. Is

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that how you pronounce your last name?

Speaker 11 (01:10:32):
Sandy?

Speaker 17 (01:10:33):
Got it right, I'm impressed.

Speaker 5 (01:10:34):
Perfect. No, not Mayhall Sandy. His name is his name.

Speaker 11 (01:10:42):
His name is Jeremy Sandy.

Speaker 5 (01:10:44):
So I don't know it's s A N D. I
don't know if like how you pronounced it could be Sand.

Speaker 17 (01:10:50):
I've got good and I've got Sunday, I've got Sander.

Speaker 5 (01:10:55):
It's all kinds of things. It could be all kinds
of things, so you never know. So you guys say
hi to the chat Wait. First of all, this is
my cool, outrageous man about Town co host Ron Russell.
Say hi, hey, guards, and we have people in the
chat rooms to say hi. Everybody in the chat room
and chat rooms. What's going on? Can I comment?

Speaker 6 (01:11:15):
We can we chat with him?

Speaker 17 (01:11:16):
Oh they are there's a free friend.

Speaker 5 (01:11:18):
Oh that's so funny. So be Claudia from Germany. Say
hi to be Claudia. She wrote that you were on
the show August tenth, twenty fifteen, and our other guests
were Brett Rice and Jack McGee. Werrett Weiss just got
killed in uh he got killed in the first season
of Tulsa. I mean the first episode of the new
season of Tulsa Kingen. I haven't seen the new one yet,

(01:11:44):
And I don't know if you guys know Jack McKee.
He's from Moneyball. He hasn't been a bunch of movies.
But anyway, we have a lot of cool guests and
now we're happy to have you back, and we might
as well talk about the well, I was going to
talk about some of your other stuff, so people kind
of know who you are, and we'll go into the
Madness of King Judge of David Judge.

Speaker 11 (01:12:02):
I don't know why you know that.

Speaker 5 (01:12:04):
There's another movie called The Madness of King George from
many years ago. One an Academy Award, I think, and
I always get it confused, like when I'm like writing
and I always.

Speaker 6 (01:12:12):
Have to go Now I know, I know.

Speaker 5 (01:12:14):
I saw that one that a million years ago too.
When it came out, I enjoyed it. Did you do
that on purpose to confuse people?

Speaker 11 (01:12:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:12:22):
I really wanted to when they saw us.

Speaker 16 (01:12:23):
I wanted to think Academy Award winning show right here,
So why not?

Speaker 17 (01:12:29):
You know, let's go for it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:31):
So you guys, Mike does everything. So why did you
actually get your Emmy nomination for?

Speaker 6 (01:12:38):
I have my hearing.

Speaker 5 (01:12:41):
All? So why did you get your Emmy nomination? We're
a wild show. First of all, Jeremy, you don't know,
like Mike's been here before, so he knows. So we
answer a lot. We're married, we answer, So go ahead
to what did you get your Emmy NOMINAE for?

Speaker 16 (01:12:54):
Yeah, I got it for a TV show called Bronx
s I U Best Director. And then there was another
show called Al Divided which was like a best series.

Speaker 17 (01:13:01):
So was, Yeah, those are the two.

Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
Actually were in twenty four episodes. I looked on IMDb.
You were in a lot of them. I was, I was,
I was acting.

Speaker 16 (01:13:10):
I was acting and directing and producing in that one,
alongside my partner Dan Garcia.

Speaker 5 (01:13:16):
So, so what do you prefer at of all the
different things? Do you like all of them because you.

Speaker 17 (01:13:20):
Do all of them?

Speaker 5 (01:13:21):
No, I like them all. I like them all for
just different reasons.

Speaker 16 (01:13:24):
You know, you know you you produce too, you know,
it's just different hats, different ways to tell a story.
I like the directing because I like to I feel
like I'm a little bit of each character, you know,
and I can get into the head of each little character,
and I can work with people I really like to work.

Speaker 6 (01:13:38):
With, even this guy.

Speaker 16 (01:13:40):
I like the acting because I like to just sort
of step into the character's mind and view what that is.
And then I like writing because it just it helps
me get rid of all the crazy thoughts.

Speaker 5 (01:13:50):
That are in my head and I just got to
get them out or I'm gonna go bonkers. I like, So,
did you actually write those two series?

Speaker 6 (01:13:57):
Also?

Speaker 16 (01:13:58):
I wrote on Bronx SIU, Dan and I co wrote
the first season. Then I wrote the second season. A
House Divided was all Dan. I would come in, he
would write it and then we would go over plot
points and things of that nature.

Speaker 5 (01:14:11):
But for the pin he was it. I wrote.

Speaker 17 (01:14:13):
I wrote some scenes, some scene.

Speaker 16 (01:14:15):
Work, and then I would I would go in and change,
you know, we would talk about character plots and motivations
and I would change that. Other than a few select
scenes throughout the series, it was mainly just Dan, you know,
but I direct.

Speaker 5 (01:14:29):
We'd we directed together and produced together. So, you guys,
some of the other things you might have seen Mike
in So I'm exhausted. I love vampires. I love vampires.
Suck you ran in an episode of The Walking Dead. Yeah,
we have a ghost with Jennifer Coolidge, Steve Colter who's
spent on our show, Anthony Mackie, David Harbor.

Speaker 6 (01:14:50):
One movie that I really.

Speaker 5 (01:14:52):
Liked a lot, and then I have to go back
and see whatever you were in. It is The Domestics.
That's a really film.

Speaker 17 (01:14:58):
Yeah, I really like that was good one, right, you.

Speaker 5 (01:15:01):
Guys, Crossworth, Tyler, Hope, Hokland, I don't Lance Reddick, David.
It's a really really good movie.

Speaker 6 (01:15:08):
You guys.

Speaker 5 (01:15:08):
I don't think it ever got it's do. They just
released it on streaming and they didn't advertise it. I
came across it as a fluke.

Speaker 17 (01:15:16):
Yeah, it was a really good one.

Speaker 16 (01:15:18):
A lot of good people worked on that. They filmed
that out here in East New Orleans for the most part.
And you wouldn't recognize me because I've got like this
huge hat on with antlers and these huge giant goggles
and I look like this post apocalyptic thing that stepped
right out of Mad Max. But there's a scene where
the two leads they end up in this like this,

(01:15:40):
there's a row of houses and that have kind of
been abandoned, and Tyler, the lead, he goes into a
house and gets into a fight with the guy and
they break off the antler and stab into the guy's
eye after a big fight.

Speaker 5 (01:15:54):
That's me. Oh that's cool.

Speaker 11 (01:15:56):
I feel it's a really good movie.

Speaker 5 (01:15:59):
Like people should really see it. And Tyler a lot
just back from his like teen Wolf days and Superman,
and I actually wish he was Superman.

Speaker 6 (01:16:08):
I like him a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:16:09):
He's talking about No, no, you don't know that Tyler.
This is a big title. We don't know him on
the show, but he didn't actually come because we have
a go and you did a movie A Horse for Christmas,
and I only bring it up because Martin Cove is
in it and I'm a big Martin Cove fan. We
met him at a red carpet event which movie he

(01:16:29):
was great?

Speaker 11 (01:16:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was great.

Speaker 5 (01:16:31):
I got some good pictures with him somewhere. He's a
great guy.

Speaker 6 (01:16:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:16:34):
I like it because you live in New Orleans, right,
there's a lot of movie stuff in New Orleans.

Speaker 16 (01:16:39):
Right, Not not anymore, but there was a bunch. It's
just dried up out here. It's there's really nothing that
I know that's going on in the area.

Speaker 17 (01:16:49):
But so there's a Tulsa King spin.

Speaker 5 (01:16:50):
Tulsa King's spinoff is coming here. That That's about all
I know that's coming.

Speaker 16 (01:16:55):
But it used to be popping, used to be multiple
films and multiple TV shows all the time. But since
the strike, since the Actors Writers Strike, it's been slim pickens.
Which is why we ended up doing David Judge because
we had a bunch of film crews, film people just
hanging out twilling their thumbs. Let's do something, Let's just
sit here, let's work let's let's work on our art.

Speaker 5 (01:17:17):
Let's make something happen. Do you have all your own
camera equipment and stuff?

Speaker 6 (01:17:21):
I don't. I don't.

Speaker 16 (01:17:22):
I've got friends who got DP friends. The guy who
shot at Michael Grophy, he has a truck full of equipment.

Speaker 5 (01:17:28):
Yeah, that makes a big difference. Okay, So then let's
tell talk about So, you guys, the name of the
TV series. It's called The Madness of David Judge. It's
five episodes. It's on two B that's where they want
to get it. You can watch it for free on
twov you guys. And Jeremy who's sitting next to Mike,
plays David Judge. So he's the lead character. And here's
the little synopsis, Famous writer David Judges. What it's that

(01:17:54):
sanity unravels as he faces human and supernatural torments after
discovering his wife's Aidelity. Jeremy Sarah Fisher, which is Mike's
girlfriend partner partner is is one of the other leads.
There's also a guy named cont Yenci and I pick
him up because he looks so famarry. He looks totally

(01:18:15):
like somebody who would be like on Yellowstone. Oh yeah,
he should be he should be be on Yellowstone and
maybe later this month we'll do a show with the
three of them. Mind if we can set it up,
it would be a lot of fun. But it's a
really great series, you guys. So tell us a little
bit how the idea came about Mike and then how
did you decide to cast him.

Speaker 16 (01:18:38):
I kind of hit you because Jeremy and and our
other producer Meal came to me with with the an
idea of a script. We didn't end up, didn't you
not using They said. They asked me to to help
direct and and get this project off the ground, And
to be honest, I wasn't so much interested in the
script that they had, but I had no other idea

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that I wanted to bring to the table, which was
the Madness of David Judge h tunatively titled the Attic
back when we first started filming, and so that's what
we all started on.

Speaker 5 (01:19:09):
So I had to cast him. I had no choice
but to cast him, otherwise, you know, with project wouldn't exist.
But no, uh, and I'm joking around about it everybody,
so everybody knows he's phenomenal. He's a phenomenal He's brilliant penomenal.
You know, he's brilliant in it. Uh So, I don't
want to make light of the fact, you know that
we're joking. It wasn't like the guy came out. It

(01:19:31):
wasn't like he paid like for ANINDI Go Go campaign,
you know, and stars and the fucking thing that he
can't act. He's a really great actor, you guys, you
can like the series. Since we're bragging on.

Speaker 16 (01:19:40):
Him here for a minute, Like, to watch Jeremy create
this character of David Judge in real time as we
film was it was just it was.

Speaker 5 (01:19:47):
It was amazing. He I just don't know how he
did it.

Speaker 16 (01:19:51):
The character is he's such a broken, fractured human David Judge.
And the subtleties that that Jeremy was able to bring
forward and and just to make maintain that level of
intensity for as long as we filmed was super, super impressive.

Speaker 17 (01:20:05):
It was just, yeah, it was just it was.

Speaker 6 (01:20:07):
He was amazing.

Speaker 17 (01:20:07):
He's worth watching.

Speaker 6 (01:20:09):
He's he is.

Speaker 5 (01:20:10):
He should get an Academy Award for it.

Speaker 6 (01:20:12):
I think he was. He was really good.

Speaker 17 (01:20:14):
He was you were you were great.

Speaker 18 (01:20:18):
It was a it was a crazy project. That's the
good thing about having a very seasoned and uh caring director,
is that especially like this character. Like always these types
of characters always kind of equate them to like a tornado,
where it's like the outside is just tumultuous and going everywhere,
but you have to have like a sense of calm within.

(01:20:40):
And so it was nice to have Mike at the
helm because he just kind of let me. He let
Jeremy disappear, and he let David show up, and then
in those moments that that Jeremy would be like, Michael,
where are we? It was very nice to have somebody
in control and saw what was happening so that I
could just kind of exist in this crazy world that
we created.

Speaker 5 (01:21:02):
So you guys also, so Jeremy has one hundred and
five credits, so he's been in a ton of stuff.
One of the things that stands out just because like
it seems like we know a lot of people who
worked on Deepwater Horizon. Are you a stunt person?

Speaker 6 (01:21:13):
Also?

Speaker 5 (01:21:13):
Are you just an actor?

Speaker 16 (01:21:14):
No?

Speaker 17 (01:21:15):
So on that's actually where I met Mike, like.

Speaker 18 (01:21:20):
What you call it career wise, but at that point
I was just acting and so I got a chance
to play one of the eleven guys that was deceased
on the deep water Adam Wisey, So like that was me. Yeah,
that was a crazy fing and and you know, the
older that you get in this world, the more the.

Speaker 5 (01:21:39):
Smaller that it gets.

Speaker 18 (01:21:41):
And crazily enough, Adam worked on the previous rig with
a guy that I graduated high school with, so like
our degree of separation was like one was like one
person and so I got you know, I played, so
I got to meet his mother, his grandmother, like his
whole family. It was a it was a very cool

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career experience, but a very humbling humanitarian experience.

Speaker 5 (01:22:08):
At the same time, you did another movie that I've
actually seen. I don't know how I saw it, but
I I have seen it. It's called Attack on the
Southern Fried Zombies. And it's funny to me because like
that that you've done, that's one of the things I've seen.

Speaker 18 (01:22:25):
So you that was this crazy like zombie film that
we did up in Clarksdale, Mississippi.

Speaker 17 (01:22:32):
I mean it is like it is, it is cheese horror.
But like you do you remember the biker Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:22:38):
Yeah, so that was me.

Speaker 17 (01:22:39):
I was I was the biker guy. That was That
was insane.

Speaker 18 (01:22:42):
That was so so like we're in Clarksdale, Mississippi, and
like I swear, probably fifty percent of the towns folks
were extras in that movie.

Speaker 17 (01:22:51):
Like they just set up a carnival and they were like,
come out to the carnival. We'll have cotton, candy and cokes,
and we'll put blood on you and let your run.
I mean, it was insanity.

Speaker 5 (01:23:03):
Because I've also seen both the hay Ride movies. I'm
going to here IMDb as we're like talking, I see
both the hay Ride movies. So you like horror, obviously,
you like cor because you've been in a lot of horror,
and Mike, you like horror too, right, I do?

Speaker 17 (01:23:15):
Yeah, big fan. Yeah, my wife is actually the one
of the other leagues of Hayride.

Speaker 18 (01:23:21):
Yeah yeah, that was actually both of our slate first
legit full length feature film.

Speaker 5 (01:23:29):
Oh no, I like love it. Okay, So let's go
back real quick to the Madness, and so I have
two video clips from it. One is just a thirty
second one which we'll play second. But the first one
is the Madness of David Judge. The actual trailer. It's
like two minutes long. So how about Mike, you introduced
the trailer and then we'll play it for everybody. One
we want to do the one that says the Madness

(01:23:49):
of David George trailer, and that way people get an
idea of what we're talking about, and then we can
come back and talk about it some more.

Speaker 16 (01:23:55):
All right, So here's the official trailer for the Madness
of David Judge out on two, and you get just
a little glimpse of how David Judge starts to snap
in this.

Speaker 13 (01:24:18):
If you were just joining us, we are with world
renowned best selling author David Judge.

Speaker 18 (01:24:24):
By the time that this airs, I will be locked
away in my retreat writing like a madman. Samantha Rosso divorce.

Speaker 6 (01:24:35):
You don't. I don't know what I want? You know,
that's not the leading. It's hard. It's the guilt of
moving on and being happy about you know what.

Speaker 7 (01:24:42):
I find interesting?

Speaker 8 (01:24:43):
A detective all the way from New Orleans shows up
and you have not asked me what I am doing here?

Speaker 17 (01:24:50):
Your wife is.

Speaker 6 (01:24:51):
Missing, you mind, You're being consumed by Samantha. You know
the man comed out to you. Ain't fair.

Speaker 18 (01:25:02):
That doesn't make any sense because I spoke with her yesterday.

Speaker 11 (01:25:06):
She's been missing the better part of ten days, maybe longer.

Speaker 17 (01:25:10):
That is according to her friend Richard, who reported or missing.

Speaker 6 (01:25:14):
Do you love me?

Speaker 14 (01:25:18):
I die?

Speaker 18 (01:25:20):
I hurt you a kid?

Speaker 11 (01:25:21):
So what you want is that love?

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
David?

Speaker 6 (01:25:26):
You coming by here and assuming things when I'm by here.

Speaker 14 (01:25:30):
No, David, anytime you want to achieve great things, the
gods demand, they demand a sacrifice, and.

Speaker 6 (01:25:45):
She is only the offer. Would you love me? It's okay,

(01:26:06):
it's okay, yay.

Speaker 5 (01:26:12):
So first thing I want to say for all the
people watching the show, Bestally Don because I know you
like this kind of stuff. This is a really good series.
It's a limited series, you guys. It's five episodes. It's
not like Jason Movie or something where you just watch
a bunch of people getting slashed up. It's a psychological thriller.
You know, you don't really know what's going on, you know,
until you go through the whole thing. It's got a

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lot of twists and turns, and I think everybody will
really like enjoy it and really like everybody in the
cast is stellar. It's a really really stellar thing. And
it's on TV. It's also on what, Amazon Prime and
something else, Amazon Prime and Movie Central. Those are the
big ones. Movie Central's on YouTube. Right, yep, YouTube bunch,
you guys can watch it for free on TV. So

(01:26:55):
watch it on TV, super easy. So how was so?
How many things have you have? You directed a lot
of stuff, Mike, Well, I guess tends how you look
at it.

Speaker 16 (01:27:07):
So we obviously the Madness of David Judge, two seasons
of bronx SIU and that was fourteen episodes total. We
had a third season ready to go, but whatever the
producing entity, the big company, they shift management in the
C suite, and they decided they only wanted to do
their stuff, so since ours was with the Old Guard,

(01:27:30):
they scrapped the third season. And then we had five
seasons of A House Divided and that was eight episodes
each season, and then we got to spin off season
show of that called Jubiter Jones, which was another eight episodes,
and I think I think next year we're going to
get a second season out of Jubiter Jones, which would
be nice. They'll be another eight seasons and I'm on

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every episode directing.

Speaker 5 (01:27:54):
I'm not the sole director, but I.

Speaker 17 (01:27:57):
Mean, how many episodes?

Speaker 5 (01:27:58):
How many shows is that?

Speaker 16 (01:27:59):
That's fifty forty fifty hours of television plus half a
dozen movies not counting anything that I may just come
into consult on or to be there as a producer.

Speaker 5 (01:28:10):
So like the difference between television and movies, because it's
two different, totally different.

Speaker 17 (01:28:16):
It is how do I It's it's kind of.

Speaker 5 (01:28:20):
I like, I like them both for different reasons. We
filmed David Judge like a movie.

Speaker 16 (01:28:28):
Yes, you know, it's got it's kind of a central
perspective of David Judge. You don't branch off a whole
lot into other people and what's going on with them.

Speaker 5 (01:28:37):
Everything is through the eyes of David Judge.

Speaker 16 (01:28:40):
So if you're watching how if you're watching the madness
of David Judge and you feel like you don't quite
understand what's going on, or there's a lot of questions
coming at you, that's because as a director, I'm forcing
you to live it as David Judge.

Speaker 5 (01:28:52):
Right, You're not getting other perspectives.

Speaker 16 (01:28:55):
Broncho Si you multiple characters all over the place. But
we still fill film like a movie in that it's
you know, it was six episod six six episodes, eight episodes,
but we would block shoot it in that everything that
happened in the police office we'd film out first. We

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wouldn't go by episode. We shot as a whole. So
for me, everything I have done is sort of like
a movie. It's not done by episodes or block shot episodes.
So everything for me is all happening simultaneously.

Speaker 5 (01:29:29):
The whole season though then goes out. It's not like
an episodic where you do it and you have to
actually shoot each episode, you know, for the next week. Yeah,
we film it all, we get it all in the can.

Speaker 16 (01:29:41):
So that's all in my brain, you know, eight eight
episodes for for Bronx CEU is eight episodes, I don't know,
twelve different characters, not including day players, all in my
head simultaneously, just spinning, and then we get into the
edit room and then we'd lay it all out.

Speaker 5 (01:29:57):
So then how hard is it to get distribution a
TV series compared to a movie, because if you have to,
you basically have to finish the whole series center you
don't have anything to show anybody.

Speaker 16 (01:30:06):
Right with with a House Divided and brons sau Dan
Garcia the the executive producer. He brought connections and and
distribution ties through all Black B E T and to
an extent AMC, so he had he had distribution channels
sort of sort of locked in, and then with the

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Madness of David Judge, I knew enough people that I
could make phone calls to, and we landed on Buffalo eight,
a distributor that we had worked with with with a
different side of their company.

Speaker 17 (01:30:44):
Through with a house to buy it.

Speaker 16 (01:30:46):
So they they they knew me well enough to at
least look at what I was offering them, and it
was really surprising.

Speaker 18 (01:30:53):
I was.

Speaker 16 (01:30:53):
I didn't know if they were going to take it
or not, because there's no one famous in in the
Madness of David Judge, but I think what we have
going for is a really talented.

Speaker 5 (01:31:01):
True Jeremy just look back and forth. That's funny. I mean,
you're famous to me, you're famous to me, you're superstarting me.
What you're saying is true, though, like because I that's
always what I you know, I produced a lot of movies,
and like they always want to know who's in it,
and so I immediately when I found out David Judge,
you know, I went to look and see who everybody's

(01:31:21):
in it. And although everybody in it has phenomenal credits,
nobody in it is a household name where you don't
have to look them up to see who they are.
It's a weird thing. It's like, you know, it's now everybody.

Speaker 16 (01:31:32):
Hopefully we'll see their faces and they'll recognize them so
they'll become more popular.

Speaker 5 (01:31:35):
Correct.

Speaker 16 (01:31:36):
I think we got we got David Judge distribution so quickly,
based solely off of the strength of the performances and
the visuals of the show.

Speaker 5 (01:31:46):
I think we worked really hard.

Speaker 16 (01:31:48):
Those are the things we could control, right, we can
control our performances, we can control what it looks like.
And we just took our time doing it, and we
tried enough to cut corners and we got a couple
offers kind of right out of the gate.

Speaker 5 (01:32:00):
There was that one to Approaches.

Speaker 16 (01:32:01):
They saw a rough cut of the trailer before sound
effects and stuff, and they were like they started making
as offers, and I was like, we just want to
hold off a little bit and see who else comes
out there. And Buffalo Eight's a pretty d decent signed
distribution company, and so when they came, I was like,
this is we just got to go with them.

Speaker 5 (01:32:19):
You know, it looks really good because like I have
first of all, you know, we bring on we bring
on two guests every week, you know, and sometimes I
just like the people even though the movies are terrible.
And and sometimes we bring like ron's been some movies
that had really good budgets because they wasted money, you know,
like the movies didn't look that good. And then we've
had people come on with like no budgets at all,

(01:32:40):
you know, and their shit looks like really good. So
we've had a little bit of everything you know that
comes on and it looks like you guys had an
actual big budget to do it. It looks really good
because I've watched the whole series, so I like, I've
seen all of it, so you know, I know how
good it really looks, and I also know it wasn't
a huge budget, so that you guys have really like accomplished,

(01:33:01):
you know, something that a lot of people are not
talented enough to do.

Speaker 17 (01:33:05):
Well, That's what I mean.

Speaker 18 (01:33:06):
It's it's interesting that you bring that up because it's
like we've both been in this industry for fifteen twenty ish.

Speaker 17 (01:33:14):
Long long time, and so early on I had this
train of thought of like, oh, this is what making
movies is.

Speaker 18 (01:33:21):
And so after I've worn a couple because I've done acting,
I've done stunts, I've done grip and electric work, which
just like camera assists stuff. So I've seen it from
several different angles. And so it's always funny when some
one of my non film friends watches something.

Speaker 17 (01:33:38):
And they go, oh, it was a good movie or
oh it was a bad movie, and.

Speaker 18 (01:33:40):
I'm like, regardless of what type of movie it is,
the fact that you saw it was an accomplishment because
I can't tell you how many things I've been a
part of that never saw the light of the day. Yes,
like even just getting something out there for public assumption
is a feat. Now what it is that you put
out there, if it's good or not, that's a completely

(01:34:02):
different ballgame.

Speaker 6 (01:34:03):
But this one was.

Speaker 17 (01:34:04):
This one was one of the first ones that I
did that like, I honestly.

Speaker 18 (01:34:08):
Did not know what we were making. I didn't and
and but it wasn't Jeremy didn't. Jeremy knew what we
were making, but it was I had to go into
a place and like, I really don't know what was happening.
And so like the majority of our shoot was really
just this one lake house and then we would We
took a couple of days up in Jackson and then

(01:34:28):
Leonoreland a day in the city and someone yeah, yeah,
so like a few little but the majority of the
shoot was in this one place, and like I got
so lost that there were days that I just would
have to come to.

Speaker 17 (01:34:39):
Mike and of like, you got to tell me what
day this is because I don't. I'm I'm so far gone,
I don't even know, and so like to yeah, to
tie it back in, is it.

Speaker 18 (01:34:49):
It's it's an interesting thing of watching the final product
and I mean like really, like this is one and
I've told him this before, Like it looks good, the
performances are great, sound is amazing, Like there are all
these little key issues that I've seen stuff on Netflix.

Speaker 17 (01:35:06):
I've seen stuff on several streaming shows.

Speaker 18 (01:35:08):
Where it's like if one of those is just a
little off, it takes you out. Really, Like if sound
design is off, it takes me out. I can't handle like, uh,
dubbed lines, like that's just a person. Yeah, as soon
as I see you dubbed something, I'm going subtitles I
can do dubbed It takes me out. And so this
is one of the first projects that I've been a

(01:35:28):
part of from the beginning to the end, that I
honestly can say, like, I'm proud of the whole process,
like it's it's a great project.

Speaker 5 (01:35:37):
It looks really good, it looks like you had a budget,
it's done very well. We see a lot of stuff
and and and and to change the perspective a little bit.
So I think anybody who makes a film and gets
it distributed, whether it's good or bad, is a huge
feat because lots of people talk about it, but not
many people actually do it. So even though I have

(01:35:57):
a friend who uh, I don't want to say who
he is, what the movie is, but like, you know,
he has several movies that he's made for under ten
thousand dollars, and every one of them generates about one
hundred and fifty thousand dollars with the revenue he gets
them all distributed, makes you know, money, And even though
they're not the greatest movies ever, they're not terrible. I've
I've seen other people's movies that cost four or five

(01:36:19):
hundred thousand dollars that are worse than these ten thousand
dollars movies. You know, So they're not like terrible terrible,
they're not the greatest, but he makes a nice living,
you know, he does two or three of them a
year and he makes a ton of money.

Speaker 17 (01:36:30):
Well, and that's the.

Speaker 18 (01:36:33):
That's the interesting thing about like a business is that
there is the there's the business side of it, and
then there's the art side of it. And so right
off the bat, when somebody watches something, it's like, well,
was this made for profit or was this made for part?
And if I feel as though, if you can really
make the two of those contract, that's where the win is.

Speaker 5 (01:36:53):
You know, tell everybody too. You can follow Mike on Instagram.
He's at Michael Mayholl, not Mike, Michael Mayhall. And Jeremy,
I don't know what yours is since I didn't know
you were coming out.

Speaker 17 (01:37:03):
Well it's Jeremy, Jeremy, Sandy.

Speaker 5 (01:37:06):
Jay E, r E N Y s A N d E.
So let's talk about some different stuff. This is stuff
I always like to talk about. And there's two of you.
So you guys have done all kinds of stuff in
all different roles. So this is like a bucket list
question that I like to ask everybody. And so bucket lists,
First male and female actor living or dead that you

(01:37:27):
would like to have worked with, and they can be
living or dead. And then The second half of the
question for each one of you will be if you
could have ever been in any movie that's ever been made,
what movie would you like to have been in to
go first? Yeah you first?

Speaker 17 (01:37:41):
So yeah, I actually got my bucket list. Oh three
years ago.

Speaker 5 (01:37:47):
I'm an eighties kid.

Speaker 17 (01:37:48):
I was born in eighty one.

Speaker 18 (01:37:50):
Diehard was one of my favorite movies as a kid,
and I got to work with Bruce Willis before he retired, Like, oh.

Speaker 17 (01:37:56):
For you, that was my life to have a scene
with Bruce Willis.

Speaker 18 (01:37:59):
I was like, I'm good, I can I can check out,
I'm awesome, And it was it was just you know,
those those moments like as a kid that you just.

Speaker 17 (01:38:08):
Never think that you're gonna you know, oh, this is
so far out of the room, and then.

Speaker 18 (01:38:12):
Just standing there one day going like, holy ship, that's
John Clay like just that. As well as far as.

Speaker 5 (01:38:19):
Movies of all times, you got to give me a
female one too, female, male and female. So that way, Mike,
you can be thinking about it.

Speaker 18 (01:38:28):
I would say, God, it's a toss up either Julia
Roberts or Helen Mirren, Helen Marrion.

Speaker 17 (01:38:37):
Yeah, one of those one of those too, Like absolutely,
you ever worked.

Speaker 6 (01:38:42):
With Julia Roberts should quit the business.

Speaker 5 (01:38:44):
If they say she's kind of a bitch, she is
a totally.

Speaker 6 (01:38:46):
Horrible bit when that work. But how they all really
really Jayla?

Speaker 5 (01:38:55):
We have a friend who do is in a JLO
video and she told us stories live on the air
with Jayla, like, Yeah, you aren't allowed to look her
in the eye. You weren't allowed to say anything to her.
If you looked her in the eye and she caught you,
you got fired.

Speaker 6 (01:39:09):
We have heard so much stuff people that come on here,
We could write a book. Just because your famous doesn't
mean you could shoot on people. Are a lot of
people that I have never worked with. Anybody that I've
already worked with, big people who are nice. I mean
I have never had a bad encounter because if I did,

(01:39:31):
I tell them, listen, you little funck? What do you
think you still fought shipping piece? So it's not at all.

Speaker 5 (01:39:40):
Movie, Jeremy, what movie would you have liked? That been
in any movie that's ever been made of the Lost Her?

Speaker 6 (01:39:45):
Great?

Speaker 5 (01:39:46):
We just watched that recently. Actually, I'm a big Harrison
Ford fan too.

Speaker 6 (01:39:52):
It was very nice. Yeah, shooting in Manhattan and I
was walking down Third Avenue with my young daughter, and
we like to look in the window where all the
little puppies and the pet show store. And one of
the wise guys there was like, come on, we get
those kids, Addy, I come on, mover over it. So
I walked up to Harrison and I said to him, listen,

(01:40:14):
can you get these people to be nice to the
children in between shots? Let them look at the puppies.
Then when you're shooting, of course they're not in the scene.
He said, I'm sorry about that. He walked over to
that guy and told that guy let the kids look
in the window at the puppies. Harrison Ford is a
gent in my book.

Speaker 11 (01:40:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
No.

Speaker 18 (01:40:34):
Actually when I when I lived in New York City,
I got to wait on him and Calista Flockhart once
and just it was the hardest thing to just take
out the fact that this was Han Solo and Indiana
Jones and just a guy with his wife having dinner
and like, don't don't famble it, don't fambly it.

Speaker 5 (01:40:51):
And that show that Callista Blockhart was on was one
of my favorite shows back in the day.

Speaker 17 (01:40:59):
Great show.

Speaker 5 (01:41:00):
It was a great, great show.

Speaker 6 (01:41:02):
Yeah, fifty years ago. My experience was sixty five years ago,
all the stars that were big knew better than to
not behave on a set because they knew word would
get out. But today they don't give her Damn they
really are.

Speaker 18 (01:41:21):
It's that, but it's there's also so much going on
today where like you know, back then.

Speaker 16 (01:41:27):
It was movie stars were rare, right, it was you
It was just now you've got you know, if he
does Instagram storys, you know, say the bad tomorrow that
people will forget all about what mine did.

Speaker 5 (01:41:40):
Yeah, just so you guys know, one of Ron's best friends,
she actually passed away after she left his house with
Jane Russell. I don't know if you're old enough to
know who Jane Russell is. Jane Russell was his best friend.
He did work with Elizabeth Taylor. He knew Betty dat
huh relation Ron Russell Jayden Oh no so. Ron back
in the day was a female impersonator in straight clubs

(01:42:03):
and he actually sang in his own voice, and he
impersonated Jane Russell for for many years and then he
actually met her one day and they became fast friends
and for the last ten years of her life they
were like best friends. That's how cool did she meet
you when you were impersonating her. No, no, no, he
actually had an epiphany where a book fell Jane Russell.

(01:42:25):
Book fell. What's the Jane, You only have a couple
of minutes you got to do.

Speaker 6 (01:42:28):
It's a long story, but it was something that happened
in my house where I was getting a book out
of the bookcase and another book fell down, and the
book was laying on the floor open where she had
just lost her second husband and what she was going through.
And I had just lost my partner of forty two years.
So I took the book and read it, and I

(01:42:48):
said to my daughter, we have to find Jane Russell.

Speaker 11 (01:42:51):
And so they went.

Speaker 6 (01:42:52):
We went looking for we found her, and when we met,
we just became the best of friends. And we stayed
in each other's homes. We travel together. Jane's like my sister.
I took her name in a Russell and she was
very very happy with that. She was flattered. So she
was a star. And Jane Russell would help another actor.

(01:43:13):
She wouldn't hinder an actor by being a nasty to
intimidate them. Today, a lot of actors that are big
by hearing it fell out today, a lot of actors
that are big, they intimidate the people they work with
by doing that. You know, you don't go in your
trailer and not talk to the people that you're working with.

Speaker 17 (01:43:38):
I won't, I won't drop names.

Speaker 18 (01:43:42):
Go ahead, go ahead, Like there was there was one
time that I was working on a it's an Oscar
winning film that was shot down in New Orleans, and
I was doing crew work, and production.

Speaker 17 (01:43:52):
Kind of came out and was like, Okay, so Blink.

Speaker 18 (01:43:56):
Is portraying a very like very much an asshole, and
it's just going to be easier for him to just
stay that way.

Speaker 17 (01:44:02):
So if you see him, just just leave him one.

Speaker 18 (01:44:05):
There wasn't any kind of like punishment for doing anything,
but it was just kind of known, like Blank's room, Yeah,
Blank is not gonna And so there was one night
we were shooting this scene in an Italian diner and
I'm like walking out out of set with what's called ballbusters.

Speaker 17 (01:44:21):
They're like forty five pounds.

Speaker 5 (01:44:22):
Stand here, sorry, this is my dog he's been lighting underneath.

Speaker 7 (01:44:27):
And so.

Speaker 17 (01:44:29):
They're called ballbusters.

Speaker 18 (01:44:31):
They're like forty five pounds sandbags that we put on
like combos of a the s hands and so I
have four of these.

Speaker 17 (01:44:36):
So I have like two hundred.

Speaker 18 (01:44:37):
Pounds in my hand that I am walking through this doorway,
and up walks this actor and he's standing in the
doorway and we make eye contact and he literally just
sitting there smoking a cigarette, just looked at me, and
I'm going, okay, all right, you win. And so I
backed my two hundred pounds up and I let him
go through, and I went on about my business.

Speaker 17 (01:44:56):
A couple of weeks go by, and at the wrap,
he literally went by and like thanked every crew member
for letting him just.

Speaker 6 (01:45:04):
Be in his space.

Speaker 5 (01:45:05):
And I was like, that's cool, Like, at least that
was an acknowledgement that hey, I was in.

Speaker 11 (01:45:10):
Thank you so much because it's.

Speaker 6 (01:45:14):
I knew Betty Davis. And Betty Davis said to me,
you know everybody thinks I'm a bitch. I said, well,
you're act the bitch all the time, so of course
people think you're a bitch. And she said, but I'm not.
She said, I know that if I'm on a set
and there's somebody that's afraid of me, I can tell
when we're acting together they're afraid of me. So I

(01:45:35):
go out of my way to friend them. You know,
have a coffee with them to be civilized, because you know,
in those days, Hollywood built up stars where they were
my god gods. You know. So if you went on
this set, you were terrified because you're going to work
with Betty Davis the scene, you lah, And today they

(01:45:57):
don't care about that. I was I'm supposed to be
in a movie if we ever get funded, where I
play Kevin Bacon's father. Yeah, that's a pretty good role.
But the only problem was is I look younger than
Kevin Bacon. So so the directions of the producers said,

(01:46:20):
can you get old?

Speaker 7 (01:46:21):
Ron?

Speaker 6 (01:46:21):
You look old?

Speaker 5 (01:46:23):
Actually they don't know how old you are. You told us, yeah,
you don't look a.

Speaker 7 (01:46:31):
Lot.

Speaker 6 (01:46:32):
It goes against me.

Speaker 5 (01:46:33):
Sometimes we have to go back to Mike because everybody
in the chair wants to know.

Speaker 6 (01:46:38):
You're not going to name the guy.

Speaker 5 (01:46:41):
They're not going to name him camera. What was the
question was?

Speaker 17 (01:46:47):
It was who would you like to work with?

Speaker 5 (01:46:48):
Guy and girl, female, living or dead and whatever? Any
movie that's ever been made, One movie would you have
liked that been in.

Speaker 19 (01:46:54):
Any movie that I've ever I would love to have
been in Lord of the Rings. That's a good one,
Like yeah, yeah, just just to be in those let's see.
I would love to work with Emma Thompson because that's
a good one.

Speaker 16 (01:47:09):
I just she's just amazing and I would love to
And the director's side of me would like to work
with James Gunn. I think he's a great, great writer
and a great visual storyteller and he just understands character
nuanced so well.

Speaker 5 (01:47:25):
I would love to work with him. I love all
his James Gunn. He's a big director. He does like
Superhero lot. He did the New Superman, he did the
New Superman, Guardians and Galaxy. You know they were squad yep.
I think he did the second one. So give us
an actor though that you would like to work with

(01:47:45):
an actor? Oh gosh, there's like a kajillion of them.
Oh oh man, his name just jumped right out of
my head. He played the Punisher, John bernethal John Bertha.

Speaker 11 (01:48:00):
He's a good one.

Speaker 5 (01:48:01):
He's so intense, Like he's just so intense. I would
love to work with him. And just so when the
Walking when the Walking Dead came out, So I used
to go to I used to be a clothing designer,
and I would give close to people and meet him
and at conventions, and so John Birthall went to it
when Walking Dead first hit, and he was really big
his first convention, and he brought his fucking two hundred

(01:48:24):
pound pit bull that was sitting next to him, and
I swear to god, everybody was afraid to talk to him.
He was really nice though. I actually didn't go to
his table, but I saw him at at the event
and I talked to him, but I was afraid to
go the pit bull because the dog was so big,
which is funny. But all right, we're at a time,
you guys, But you guys, first of all, the madness

(01:48:44):
of King Judge, David Judge. You guys, it's on to
be It's free.

Speaker 11 (01:48:54):
Watch it.

Speaker 5 (01:48:55):
In a couple of weeks, we're gonna we're gonna get
a few of the other cast members and do like
a forty five minute cast of the Judge Show. I
think you guys will like it. It's really good, So
watch it. We want to thank you Mike for coming on,
and Jeremy you are an added bonus and we'll see
you again soon. Hey, thank you guys, and we enjoyed it.
So everybody go watch it and we'll see you guys later.
All right by, bye bye.

Speaker 11 (01:49:16):
Sorry guys, you got me the.

Speaker 5 (01:49:19):
Oh yeah, I'll get it from Mike. Okay, all right, everybody,
we'll see you next week. Thanks so much, everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:49:26):
Thanks you give me, give me.

Speaker 5 (01:49:36):
I don't see that in this any everybody drinking, well,
oh we go, you.

Speaker 11 (01:49:43):
Standing contract.

Speaker 5 (01:49:44):
We got the Jersey Tective watch, meet cracks and gave
me pick.

Speaker 11 (01:49:48):
Up my self.

Speaker 5 (01:49:48):
We don't want to tell me you don't want to know.

Speaker 3 (01:49:51):
Him always, that's pulse of Jim.

Speaker 11 (01:49:55):
Give me some.

Speaker 12 (01:49:57):
Take you

Speaker 6 (01:50:00):
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