Jason Ji / Allan Klepfisz

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:22):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Jimmee, gave me, Paul, give me stop? Thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Hey, what's up? Everybody? Welcome to the Jimmy Star Show
with Ron Russell bringing you the good time, some music, fashion,
pop culture, and entertainment. We got a fun show for
you guys today. Two great guests. Before I tell you
who they are, let's say hi to my cool, outrageous
man about town co.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Host Ron Russell and Astro and Astro Astro every week
now jumps in my lap. He is such a Ham's
his picture ready? You know? Astro? Right, honey, give me kisses?
No who else makes out with their dogs? You make
up with your dogs. Everybody out there watching or listening,

(01:39):
do you kiss your dogs on the lips.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
I bet they do.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
I hope so, because dogs love being kissed on the lips. Right, Astro,
I think he's gay. But anyway, what are you going
to do? Okay, John, we'll have to deal with well
he's If he's gay, we'll have to deal with it somehow.
I'll have to get over it. Meanwhile, I have a
question to ask everybody out there in crazy Land. We

(02:04):
are going to Florida next week on the airplane. Now,
they just put a whole bunch of new restrictions. So
you know you're not allowed to go on the airplane
with an erection, right, No, I made that one up. Anyway.
I use cologne. I love cologne. I've always used cologne

(02:28):
since I use old spice when I was about ten
or eleven years old, So of course I don't use
old spice anymore. Now. I use Chanel because I'm a
big shot. No really, I like the smell of Chanel
Summer because it's lemon. I love to smell like lemons
and limes. But can I bring my cologne on the airplane?

(02:51):
I know they said you have to bring what is it?

Speaker 3 (02:54):
And I can only be three and a half ounce bottle,
three and.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
A half pounce bottle. But if it's it's in a
sealed bottle with a vaporizer. So what are you gonna
blow up an airplane with Chanel?

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Doesn't matter if they won't like they throw it out.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Throw it out, I'll throw them out. Or it's a
fortune of money right own? So you kidding anyway? So
anyone out there that knows, and you get away with
it by bringing us up? You know a regular bottle
of Chanel?

Speaker 3 (03:21):
You can't I googled it. You can't you google it?

Speaker 4 (03:24):
So why do you tell me?

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I told you that? Are you told you three and
a half ounces? That's how it comes up with everything?

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Well, how much is in my my thing?

Speaker 3 (03:31):
That's like twelve ounces? Oh shit, you need a little
teeny one has to be a little teeny thing for klown.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
If I got a Florida, I'm gonna smell like shit.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
You know you perspire, see lady like said, they take
it away from you.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Lady, I will be in jail because I say they'll
never get my Chanel, and Chanel will hear that? Make
me do the commercial? And the commercial will be me
being thrown off the airplane and me saying I will
never give up my sh Now see that if everybody
out there is listening, and if you steal the idea
and make the commercial, I have it here, I will

(04:07):
sue you. It's my idea.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
In the meantime, where do you get your where do
you get your Where do you guys get a little travels?
Things that are under three and a half ounces of cologne?
Anybody know? If you know, let me know.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
And it's not like you compose, you know, I don't
have a bottle that like women have where you unscrew
it and the perfume is there. This is in anatomi.
How do you say that word? I'm learning a word atomizer?
How do you say adomizer? Right? So you can't get
the cologne out of the atomiser.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
So in the meantime, otherwise you have to go get samples,
those little teeny ten teeny bottles of samples that you
are good for like two squirts. You have to get
samples and use those because you can take those.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
We have.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
I'll tell you the truth, you know. I wrote about
this on Facebook today, not about this, but about something
similar about how some people make it bad for the
good people. And this is what has happened. We live
in a gated community like we're in jail to keep
the criminals out. It should be the other way around.

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The criminals should be behind the bars, and we should
not have to have gates that open. I hate those gates.
You have no idea because some of the times the
clicker doesn't work and the friggin gate takes an hour
to open, and it's frustrat I want to go right
through it. If it didn't know it might cost so
much that we go right through the gate. But it's

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always the bad people that do it, and we have
to pay for it, the good people. I think it
should be the other way around. Is there some way
that we could correct that?

Speaker 3 (05:50):
No, Hello, but we can't get We can't get you traveled.
I don't know exactly where you're going to go, but
there's got to be a perfume place to have travel
sizes of things.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yeah, well, you see, I have to go out of
my way, drive, look, get out of the car, walk
in by talk leave, go back in my car. It's
a lot of fucking work, all right, because some jerk
blew up an ara planning.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
I don't know how that does. Yeah, I get what
you're saying.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
If it wasn't for terrorists, we wouldn't have all the
problems we have today. So I think that Trump should
kill all the terrorists right, execute them, execute them if.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
They want to kill us that let us go to
Macy's and you can ask them. Go to Macy's and ask.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Him what That's what I'm going to do.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Regular was going to go to regular customers. That's where
we bought all.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Our other columns. They don't have your name, they know no,
but you.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Can just tell them that you're a regular, tell them
a customer. In the meantime, people want to say, Hi,
how Reynolds is in the Reynolds Junior is in the
chat room?

Speaker 4 (06:47):
You guys?

Speaker 3 (06:48):
So Sidney Lady Lake and this is who we have
coming on today, you guys. We have something new for us.
We have acoustic fingerstyle guitar as Jason g coming on
and that should be super cool. And then we have
the global chief executive officer and co founder of Phoenix
Threet sixty, Allen Klepfits. I think there's going to be

(07:12):
a fun show today, so I think you guys will
enjoy it. Also, I need to talk about something else
real quick. So you guys check this out. This is
a new book. It just came out last week. The
author it's called Metabolic Revolution, Shifting the Nutritional Paradigm. It's
by Steven Utani. So Ron and I met Steven. He's

(07:34):
a friend of Michelle and Sean Canan's and we met
him at their book signing at Barnes and Noble and
I got to talking to him and he had some
health issues and he solved all of them, and he
spent years writing this book called Metabolic Revolution. I'm just
going to read the back two paragraphs real quick, so
you get an idea. Because I told him we'd promo it.
It's a great book for people with health problems, actually

(07:56):
for everybody to not have health problems. So it's called
Metabolic Revolution. Shifting the Nutritional Paradigm is a bold exploration
of the myth, information, and systemic failures that have led
to the modern health crisis. Chronic diseases like diabetes, heart disease, obesity,
and even mental health disorders are on the rise despite
advancements in medicine and nutrition. Why The answer lies in

(08:20):
the flawed dietary advice, corporate influence, and misguided focus on
symptoms rather than root causes. This groundbreaking book exposes the
lives behind the low fat movement, cholesterol fears, and the
promotion of process carbohydrate heavy foods. The challenges readers to
question conventional wisdom and embrace a new perspective on health
one root in an evolutionary biology, metabolic science, and the

(08:43):
rejection of harmful modern food practices. So I just started
reading this, so I haven't read the whole book yet.
It's really really good though, and he basically like demystifies
all the bullshit that they're telling you is good for
you and all the stuff that's really not good. But
they're just telling you that because they're trying to sell
their shitty product. So I think you guys will like it.
It's a great book. I want to congratulate Stephen for

(09:05):
publishing it. It's available on all the platforms that you
would buy books. So check it out and see what
you think. Stephen You Tani Metabolic Revolution, The Shifting of
Nutritional Paradigm.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
I retrite a book about living long, but it would
only be like one sentence or two sentences in the book,
and those sentences would be have as much sex as
you can, because that's the answer to staying alive. Once
you give up sex and stop screwing around, you're a garner.

(09:38):
So just go out there and bang everything that breeds
and have a good time. I agree with it. What
do you agree once a month, Charlie. And now you're
telling me that I'm only lying. I only make that up.
I say things on this show that aren't true. Sometimes
it's a joke, and I always have to tell people

(09:59):
today it's a joke because people today don't know how
to laugh anymore. In my day, they knew a comedian.
A comedian told a joke. I mean, you know, it's
terrible how nothing works anymore. Not really.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
I agree.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
If I had to go back you did stand up
for forty five years, you know at nightclubs. If I
had to go back to doing a stand up, I
don't think anybody would laugh. Because sometimes I do jokes
and I say, you, ah, it's funny, and you said,
I don't think it's funny.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Well, some things are funny and some things are not.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
Everything I say is.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Funny, okay. Well, I think the audience thinks become a communist.
I think most of the time that you was a communist.
Did you become a communy? Hisst to go on here
because you can't sit on my knee. My knee is
to you anyway.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
You have to learn to laugh. People don't know how
to laugh anymore. It's like they're a shamed to laugh
or afraid to laugh. I laugh all the time when
I was young. I mean, we must have been morons
because all we did was laugh. We go on the subway.
I loved this. I went to school hairdressing school in

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New York City and I lived on Long Island. So
we take the subway into the city and my friend
Arlene and I would sit there and just look at
the people and start to laugh because people were funny.
We weren't making fun of them, we were just laughing
with them or at them. But we found a subway

(11:29):
to be one of the most entertaining places. Today, you
go on a subway and you're shit in your pants
because you're terrified that you're going to be killed by
the maniac sitting next to you. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
I agree.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
So it's changed. Everything has changed, but not for the better.
We've got to get back to being who we were once,
a happy people, I mean Americans used to have the
best sense of a humor. I know I worked it.
I worked room. I worked three hundred and fifty people
at dinner dinner shows, drink shows, and I know it's

(12:06):
like to make a lot of hundreds of people there
at once. Not anymore. You know, we lost Joan Rivers,
who was maybe not the right kind of a comedian,
but she was funny. And we've lost all the great
Jewish comedians from Brooklyn, because if you were a jew
from Brooklyn and you were a comedian, you were the best.

(12:28):
All of the best comedians, if you researched them, were
Jewish and from Brooklyn.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
I missed that show that we used to watch. Remember
that show?

Speaker 4 (12:36):
But the girl speaking and ignorance.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
That's okay, I'm contributing because it's not a monologue. I
was speaking. What was that show? Do you remember that show?

Speaker 4 (12:44):
What show?

Speaker 3 (12:45):
The show about the lady comedian, Missus masl the marvelous
Missus Maizelle. That was a good showing to do with.
She's a comedian, You're just rude. My favorite comedian is
Lewis Black.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
My favorite comedian in I can't even think there's so many,
and I've met so many you know, backstage of different events.
Like I met Joan Rivers a few times. She was
not funny off camera. Off stage, Joan Rivers was very
serious and very normal. She was not what she is

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on stage. And I learned that less than a long
long time ago that most comedians are not funny off stage.
They're very good dramatic actors. In fact, comedians can do
drama better than anyone. Why that is, I don't know,
but many people agree with me. Now, is that a monologue?

(13:41):
Fuck face?

Speaker 3 (13:42):
No, But I think that's true because we've had a
lot of comedians come on the show and they haven't
been that funny. So I think that that's actually like
a real thing that not all comedians. A lot of
comedians are only funny when they're on stage, but they're
not funny in real life. And we see it too
when we watch gut film.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
Funny or not. So many people love me because I'm funny.
I'm a wise cracker. I'm compared to be author from
The Golden Girls of the author had that New York humor,
that Brooklyn New York humor. Well, I have that Brooklyn
New York humor. There's a certain humor that comes out

(14:19):
of Brooklyn that no one else has anywhere in the world.
Don't ask me what it is. We can't define it,
but when it comes, it's funny. We could say simple,
simple phrases like forget about it, you know what I mean?
People laugh from that. So many things that we say.

(14:39):
I agree, stop playing with your phone. I know, well,
I'm sending links to make sure people gone. It's your
own challenge.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
I know, well, we don't have a guest, and I'm
trying to make sure they're coming.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
Well, the guests went away. Maybe the guess is not
coming on because he heard you. The guests heard you talk.
The guest heard you talk, and he said, if Ron
was alone, I would be there for Jimmy person. I'm
not going to go there dreams anyway, So there you go. Meanwhile,
I'm excited about going to Florida, but we're house hunting

(15:14):
and the prices of the houses in Florida are a joke.
I would have to rob at least two or three
banks to afford to buy a house in Florida. I mean,
you're talking here like I didn't even want to give
the amount I could throw up.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
But anyway, it's not any more expensive than anywhere else.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
No, well, it's a water.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
And if you go to the ghetto, it's six hundred own.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Our house outright. We don't have a mortgage, so whatever
we get for it goes directly to the next house,
which is close to a million dollars or a million
dollars for a house that came from humble beginnings. You know,
when I was a kid, my mother we used to
watch the sixty four thousand dollar Question. It was a

(16:05):
TV show and they would ask people questions and they
would graduate up to sixty four thousand, and I could
remember saying to my cousin Bertha Bert, could you imagine
if we ever had sixty four thousand dollars? Well, Bertha
died a multi millionaire, very rich. Her children owned the

(16:27):
biggest construction company in Queens. And I did okay as
a performer. Did we ever think when we were kids
that we would have what we have today? And do
we ever think when we were kids that one day
we'd buy a million dollar house? It was our It
wouldn't even a thought if somebody said, if if psychic

(16:48):
said to me, when you're a hundred, you're going to
buy a million dollar house? I'd say, I'm gole fuck yourself.
You're full of shit, but it's true, so I love
it so real.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Quickly, guys, because we're going to bring on our first guest,
we want to tell everybody. First of all, you can
listen to The Jimmy Star Show with Ron Russell. We're
on Podbean now. We got rid of Red Circle you guys.
We switched to Podbean. This is our first week today,
so you can check us out on Podbean.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
You don't need to know we're on Podbean instead of
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our show is on.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
For people to know what's a big deal.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
That doesn't matter? You know, it's very technical. All right,
we're on Podbean, you guys. Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, SoundCloud, iTunes, Spotify,
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Prime at three sixty TV in. Please check out Podbean.
It's podbean dot com, slash the Jimmy Star Show probably

(17:48):
or just go to podbean and clleck it. Because because
we do get get paid for people who listen to
us on Podbean, we get paid.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
Do I get paid? I don't get paid watching is
on this show. Oh and I've never gotten it anyway.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
So we guys, now we're going to bring on our
first guest, our first guest. Let's see if we can
hear him and we'll ring.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
Hey jose, Hey, folks, how are you doing?

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Good out? We can hear you?

Speaker 4 (18:15):
Good good?

Speaker 3 (18:15):
All right, let me introduce you before we start talking
to you. All right, everybody, now we want to welcome
to the Jimmy Stars Show with Ron Russell, guitarist, composer,
acoustic fingerstyle guitarist Jason g Hello and welcome to the show.

Speaker 6 (18:30):
Hi, thank you very much for having me.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
So where are you calling us from?

Speaker 6 (18:35):
I'm in Massachusetts. I'm in Quinsey right now.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Okay, but where are you actually from? You're not from Massachusetts?

Speaker 7 (18:41):
Right?

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Where do you live around?

Speaker 6 (18:43):
Yeah, it's a bit of a long story. I was
born in China. Moved to Australia when I was ten
years old.

Speaker 8 (18:50):
You know.

Speaker 6 (18:50):
I went to middle school and high school there, and
I moved here when I was eighteen years old to
attend Berkeley College of Music. Now I'm still here.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
I love it. I actually I want to introduce through.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
Oh I forgot so this is my cool.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Outrageous man about Town co host Ron Russell.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
I see you have in your hands. Yes, so I'm
assuming you're gonna sing.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
For us, not the singing plays guitar.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
You just play, you don't sing.

Speaker 6 (19:17):
Oh yeah, that is a very very interesting. Yeah. Part
of what I do is that I put the vocals
in the guitar. Essentially, really, I put a whole band
into a guitar. And that's what fingerstyle guitar is. And
I love to do a little demonstrator, a little demonstration
later or.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
Or or now, a little bit in a little bit.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
We don't get together a little bit first, and then
we'll and then we'll do that.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
Now. I know a lot about China from my friends
so Long. You know who so Long is the fashion
design of the clothing designer.

Speaker 6 (19:49):
Oh, actually that might range.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Okay, Yeah, And I learned a lot about China. She
wrote a wonderful book. I didn't help. She says, as
a young girl, they were so poor that grandmother used
to kill rats and they would eat rats. Is that true? Oh? Wow,
China eat rats. Oh.

Speaker 6 (20:11):
I can't make that generalization or assumption, but I'm guessing,
you know, I mean, if you if you're starving, any anything,
anything is possible.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
Right, So that from that humble beginning bear mass of
fortune and became a multi, multi, multi millionaire with the
most magnificent gowns you have ever seen in your life.
All the work looks like something from Madam Butterfly. You
could see the Chinese influence in the gowns, but they're breathtaking,

(20:45):
the workmanship, the beads, the sequins. It's digits research, Suan.
I'm sure you'll be very proud of her. We'll do yeah,
you know.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
So then you went, So you went to Australia when
you're ten. So we've had a lot of cool guests
from Australia on our show, and you're young enough to
maybe know who they are. But we had I'm assuming
I don't actually know how old you are, but we
had guy Sebastians. You know guys who guys Sebastian.

Speaker 6 (21:13):
Yes, uh, he's ex agent working me for a while. Actually,
it was very interesting.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Okay, so he's been on the show. And we also
had Sharnie Vinson who's been in America. She's a famous
for a movie and a movie star, but in Australia,
I think she's on a lot of reality shows about dancing,
because she's a dancer. We also had a couple of
people from Lord of the Rings, but I forgot who
they were when they was shot and it was shot
in Australia and they were Australian actors. So I've never
been to Australia, but I would like to go.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
We've had some very super famous guitarists on this show.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Super he knows a lot about them, most famous.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
In the world.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
I forgot. I forgot who we had Leland Squaw. Actually
Eileen might have mentioned some of them too, Leland Sklar,
he's a bass player. It's not what you do, though,
what you do is totally different than what everybody else does.
Let me write let me let me brag a little
for you, because I wrote some stuff down. First of all,
you graduated Summa cum laudie from Berkeley College of Music,

(22:11):
which is a hard ass school to get into in
the first place, so congratulations. Then I wrote down that
you've performed at Carnegie Hall, which you're going to be
performing in a game, which we will tell everybody about
in a little bit. In Boston and Boston, you performed
at the Againis Arena, the Perth Concert Hall, which that's
in Australia. You were I guess you were on season

(22:34):
six of China's Got Talent, but they sent you as
an American to China, Is that right?

Speaker 4 (22:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (22:41):
Well what happened was that they held an audition in
New York and Queen's Theater for essentially the American folks
who wants to compete in China's Spelled Talent. Uh, And
I was the only one that were that was sent
through that edition. And you know, I assume you don't

(23:03):
really have to be Chinese, you just have to have
a talent.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Like I watch all the auditions for Britain's Got Talent,
and Americans, I don't really watch the show. I just
like to watch the auditions, and so I watch all
the auditions and all the time. On Britain's Got Talent,
they have people who come from Australia, and they have
people who come from all over the place. So I
like get it. And then you were also but I
read you were praised by Nile Rodgers He's also been
on the show. And then you were a finalist for

(23:31):
the International Finger Style Guitar Championships, And so tell us
what is Fingerstyle Guitarists? Because that's what you do. Tell
us what that actually means. Sure, In the simplest.

Speaker 6 (23:43):
Term, it means that you pluck with your fingers instead.

Speaker 8 (23:46):
Of a pick.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
And you can see here I got I got these
acrylic nails here to strengthen I have to go to
the nail salon. In fact, I have an appointment today
to just do a touchdoup. But yeah, essentially really helps
with playing across steel string. But fingerstyle guitar really is
trying to put miniature band into just one guitar. And

(24:11):
I love to do a quick demonstration and I will
show you and you'll get it straight away. All right,
let me do a quick song. Le's see if you
can hear this now, then clear?

Speaker 8 (24:23):
Cool.

Speaker 6 (24:25):
So, so this tune I'm gonna do. Uh. We're gonna
put one instrument at a time into the arrangement until
at the end we have a full song. So here,
this is my bass player, this is House of the
Rising Sun. Here we go, and then let's add a

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little percussion, and then we need our rhythm player, lastly

(25:23):
the singer. That's one way of arranging it. There's another way,

(25:52):
which we call the boom chick in the industry, which
is this.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
Right.

Speaker 6 (25:57):
It's kind of like a stripe piano thing, and this
with that was helping. It's a little Charles way out.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
That's a little Feenis song sol locally amazing.

Speaker 6 (26:58):
I love it, thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
I love it. Let me listen to me. I think
with a couple of lessons, you can learn to play
that thing.

Speaker 6 (27:08):
I think I think from what I just taught you,
you should just take that home and try it.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
I love it. That's some guitar.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
And how long have you been playing the guitar.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
I've started when I was eleven years old and now
I am twenty five, so fourteen years.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
My gosh, you really because you.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Really can play it well. I can tell I would
like I wish you know. I I'm a New Yorker.
If I were in New York, I'd go to concert,
I'd go to hear you. I would go to Cornegie Hall.
I honestly would. I'm not lying. Don't smoke up your butt.
The truth. All you New Yorkers go go to Cornegie Hall.

(27:47):
Listen to this guy.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
Let's talk about it a little bit. So you guys.
On March twenty second, which is a Saturday, at seven
thirty pm. They're bringing their show Fingerpicking Good at Carnegie Hall.
Jason presenting it. Tell us a little bit about the
show and the people that are in it with you.

Speaker 6 (28:05):
Yeah, this is gonna be an amazing, amazing show. I
will be kind of ems and headlining it. And then
we have three other co headliners and they're all incredible musicians.
I mean, you heard what I can what I can do,
but those folks they can do just as good, if
not way better. And we have Charles Batu. He's a

(28:28):
bassist fingerstyle basis just like what I do. A lot
of tapping, a lot of slapping, playing melody up the
neck and things like that. He's got two million subscribers
on YouTube. He co wrote the two hen the Tapping
Bass Instruction Book with a Berkeley professor. Yeah, he's incredible.
And then we have berth he's an Austrian electric guitarist

(28:51):
also does a lot of tapping, uh, and he has
one point three million subscribers on YouTube. So these folks
are really really big and popular and extremely extremely talented.
And they just finished up a tour actually the two
of them in Europe called Escape the Internet. Because they
play a lot of music on the internet and people

(29:12):
don't believe that they can play live, you know, and
and trust me, they can play live. I've heard them
at rehearsal that nothing's sped up or anything, you know.
So it's going to be a blast playing all those
music at Carnegie Hall. And lastly, the last co headliner
is Lucas Chen. He plays crossover classical guitar, which you know,

(29:32):
bring a little classical into back into Carnegie is important
and accompanying us we have a string quartet mostly from
Berkeley College of Music as well, and one drummer. So
that's the setup is we're pushing the boundaries of fingerstyle
guitar with you know, beautiful backdrop of the strings and everything,

(29:54):
and a beautiful venue at the Zankel Hall. Yeah, this
is just gonna.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
Be what kind of music are you gonna play a Carnegie?
Is it ballads things that we understand or is it
new compositions.

Speaker 6 (30:09):
It's gonna be a mix of both. I'm gonna play
some covers like I'm gonna play an arrangement.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
Of Moon Rover.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
H give me some, give me some sure.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
Here we go. So this is a little sneak peek.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
I love you, I love your guitar. I think you're fabrus.

Speaker 6 (30:31):
Oh, thank you very much, And I want to just
give a quick shout out to go down guitarist. Is
that the brand of guitar I play? Go damn uh?
And they're very very good at made in North America,
made in Canada. I'm endorsed artists by them. So guys
go buy their guitars, you know. Yeah, here's a little sneaky.

(30:52):
It is a four minute composition. I'll just play a
little bit of it. So here's a little sneaky for it.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
That's phenomenal. Are you never coming? We're gonna be living
in California, I think for about three or four months more,
and then we're moving to Florida. Are you ever coming
to California to perform? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (32:04):
I will be in California. I'm planning a trip to California,
and I mean in April to May.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Ish I'm still here. I want to come and see you.
Let me know where you are. If you're in our area,
we go. We live in Palm Springs, but we drive
to La to Los Angeles, Los Angeles all the time.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
So here's what I want to do. I definitely want
to come to I didn't know when I when we
had you first come on, that you were going to
be able to play live. And I picked this video
off of YouTube of you that I like a lot,
and it's you playing with a few other people and
it's called I guess the name of the song is
called Classical Gas. Is that the name of the song?

(32:45):
That's correct? Yes, and by Mason Williams. But this is
you playing his song. Man, Is that what it is? Yeah,
Williams is. But I recognize the song.

Speaker 6 (32:55):
Yeah, no, yeah, oh that's great. Yeah, it was composed
in nineteen fifty by Mason Williams and he's that classical
Gas piece is supposed to give gasoline to classical music.
That's what essentially he was trying to do. And yeah,
it was actually the most sold instrumental CD for a while.

(33:17):
And yeah, it's it's basically the Justin Bieber in nineteen
fifty eight.

Speaker 8 (33:21):
You know.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
So, so what we're gonna do is I want to
play it for everybody, So you hang on, you introduce
it one when he gets done and introducing, and we're
going to play the one that says classical Gas and
then as soon as it's over, we'll be right back
to talk with you, but I want to play it,
so you just kind of say who you are and
introduce it and we'll play it for everybody.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (33:39):
Sorry, would you say introduced? Who are?

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Just introduced the classical Gas video for us? And then
oh sure, yeah yeah.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
Yeah yeah that classical gas. Yeah, it was composed by
Mason Williams in nineteen fifty eight. This arrangement that I
am performing is made by Tommy Emmanuel and the strings
are arranged by Sean O'Boyle. And yeah, this was an
old Berkeley string quartet that we have film. It was

(34:10):
actually filmed by my professor with an iPhone ten. Uh
and it actually looks really good. Yeah, and yeah, it
was performed in a Berkeley studio and uh it was.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Hey wait, Jason, just sir, I'm Jason and this is
my song and give.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
The video there what you want here we got because if.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
We use the clip ever in the future, we have
you saying I'm Jason and blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
There you go go for it.

Speaker 6 (34:44):
All right, all right, my name is Jason. This is
classical gas. Hold on, let me start again.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
Money. My name is Jason.

Speaker 6 (34:56):
This is my performance of classical gas by Mason Will
It's arranged by Tomy Emmanuel.

Speaker 8 (35:01):
Enjoy it.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
Here you go. Wow, that was so cool.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
So I didn't know the name of that song, but
I've heard it a hundred million times. It's a very
popular song.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
I did so exciting. But tell me, my fingers would
have been bleeding and raw by Now. How do you
do that?

Speaker 8 (39:21):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (39:22):
Well, the right hand, I got the nails. The left
hand a lot of pain at the start.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
And as on your fingers.

Speaker 6 (39:30):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know if you can see, but yeah,
I'm pretty.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
It's all that finger work. Wow, that's exciting. You're really good.

Speaker 6 (39:40):
Appreciate it, man. It all stems from you know.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
If you sucked, I wouldn't say it. If you played
like shit and I said you're really good, my audience
would say, oh, Ron, shut up, I tell the truth.
And everybody listening is agreeing. So chat room loved it.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
So how did you decide that to become a guitar player?
You're ten years eleven years old? I think you said eleven.
You started at eleven. What made you decide you wanted to,
you know, become a guitarist.

Speaker 6 (40:10):
Yeah, this is always an embarrassing story. This is it's
just this time on THEES show that I used to
watch with friends, like when I was like eight nine, right,
and it's just a show about these couple of electric
guitarists and you know rock band enthusiasts and somehow they
can use these guitars to like heal people you know,

(40:33):
have have like shields would appear when they play, you know,
things like that, and the music was really rocking. So
I mean, I decided to go into guitar when I
was eleven. I was like, can I can I please
go to guitar? And I thought. The first guitar I
got was an electric guitar that I got from I
think like eBay or something, and it was it was

(40:56):
it was quite cheap, and I didn't know that you
needed an amplifier with an electric guitar. So I was
just over there going, yo, Dad, we might need to
return to this guitar because the volume knob is not
quite working. It's not doing anything. And yeah, eventually I
got myself a classical guitar and I studied classical music

(41:18):
for I would say probably six seven, eight years before
I switched over to Fingerstar, which is very very similar.
I will say like a family genre. But yeah, this
this fingerstar genre is a bit more groovy, a bit
more percussion involved, and yeah it's a it's a good

(41:40):
bar trick. Also, so how did you work?

Speaker 4 (41:43):
You played the piano, I don't play the piano.

Speaker 6 (41:46):
I wish I'm really bad.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
Let's go if you play the guitar. Why can't you
play all musical instruments the same?

Speaker 6 (41:57):
That is, that is a very good question if you
know piano or if you know guitar, which is a
harmonic instrument. Theoretically, yeah, every instrument gets easier, but it
does get easier, doesn't mean it's not hard, you know.
And some of these guitarist tendencies appear on the piano.
For example, if you're playing you're trying to play a

(42:18):
beautiful a note, you would do little what we co
vibrato like that, right, So on the piano, I was
I was playing chord and go like this, But that
doesn't do anything on a piano, you know, But it's
just trying to make it pretty easy.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
Well, I guess it's like a person who sings ballad
pop and someone who sings opera. It's singing, but it's
totally different singing so it's the same thing. You play
an instrument, but it's a piano, not a piano. I understand.
I just thought that if you knew music that well,
you could play anything. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (42:57):
Yeah, essentially pretty much, pretty close.

Speaker 4 (42:59):
I say, I, I mean you've mastered, You've mastered the guitar,
then no question of that.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Do you play it like your own like original like
when you guys go to Carnegie Hall, do you play
like original music too? Do you write original songs?

Speaker 4 (43:15):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (43:16):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (43:17):
The majority of the pieces that we showcased will be
original compositions. Cool.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
Yeah, the covers plus compositions he's created. I love it.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Okay. So who are some of your influences? Like growing up,
I probably might not even know any of them, Like
when you were eleven, that's only like a little lie.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
I was old already.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Who are some of your musical influences?

Speaker 6 (43:44):
It will it will be the the other great fingers
picking guitarist folks like Tommy Emmanuel, Chad Atkins.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
Oh yeah, Chaid Atkins. I grew up with Atkins. That's
a great as a kid that he was our hero
when I was young in the nineteen fifties, chaut Acts
was big.

Speaker 6 (44:07):
Yeah, it's exactly.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
So do you listen to like regular music regular Do
you listen to like regular like the turn on the
radio kind of music, or do you pretty much only
listen to music of which the different.

Speaker 6 (44:19):
Kinds that you do definitely listen to. Yeah, definitely radio
music all day yeah, all day long. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (44:30):
Sometimes that you can start start like separating like the
academic side of you know, really complicated music with radio pop.
But I really enjoy radio pop, you know, the new
the new trains coming out. Yeah, I pay attention. You know.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
Who are some modern people that you actually just like,
not that you play them, but that you just like
to listen to. Who do you like to listen to?

Speaker 6 (44:54):
My favorite person to listen to? Oh this is not
really modern day, but Stevie Wonder is my favorite.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Well, he's great. He's an icon.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
Yeah. Yes, here's an album that I have an album
an LP of Johnny manthis. You know who Johnny Manthis
is no Oh it's a sin anyway. Johnny manthis is
the number one singer in the world. He has sold
more records than any other singer. He's a ballad singer

(45:23):
and he has an album called Open Fire with two
guitars and he sings just with two guitars. It is
the best album you ever want to hear because his
voice is an orchestra. He sings better than Frank Sinatra.
You know who Frank Sinatra was. Yeah, yes, he sings

(45:44):
better than all of the ballad singers of the forties
and fifties. I would suggest you somehow get it on
one of these things that you get on whatever to
listen to this. The guitars and his voice. It's a
beautiful album. And my favorite song is when Sonny gets Blue.
He sings that with two guitars. It is beautiful. So

(46:08):
the guitar, hang on, I'm not finished, Punch Punch. The
guitar and the violin are probably the most romantic of
all the instruments. They sing love. Piano doesn't. Piano could
be any but when the guitar is played, you could
fall in love with Dracula.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
I told him when I told him we were having
a guitarist on, he got all excited because we haven't
had a lot of guitarist because they does what you
do the guitar.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
The guitar is the soul. It's the soul of music.
Is the guitar and the violin is the heart. When
they play a violin, I go crazy. I love it. Oh,
I could listen to.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Some Johnny Mathis just so you know, as a singer funk.
Actually he still performs today. He's in his like ninety
ninety two years old. He's like, he's a black fellow
from the South, and he learned to sing in church choir.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
So he has a voice.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Let me finish. I'm talking.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
I'm interrupting, you know.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
So he has put out a whole bunch of albums
and he's done covers, he does everything. But he was
out before they He was putting out records before they
even kept track of record sales. You know, he's from
before that time. But they say because they say that
Frank Sinatra sold the most of records at three hundred
and fifty million. But if Johnny Mathis would have been

(47:32):
included the albums that he sold back then, he would
have sold about three hundred and sixty million and he
would be Yeah, he would be the highest selling singing.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
And I've had the pleasure of being in his company
three times and he is the sweetest, the most gentle,
the kindest, unassuming guy. Terrific, terrific guy. And when he sing,
I would suggest you listen to some of his music.
You've never heard, chances.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
On up, he probably have. He just doesn't know. Of course.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
I wear green.

Speaker 6 (48:05):
Yes, yes, that's Johnny Mantos, gotcha, Okay.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
He's no every elevator, he's all over. I'm surprised you
don't know him. I'm shocked. He's like such a famous,
famous person.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
So you guys too. You can follow Jason on Instagram.
His instagram is at Jason g Music and he has
a great website, jasongmusic dot com. So we've got fingerpicking
good at Carnegie Hall Saturday, March twenty second, at seven thirty.
If you guys go to the Carnegie Hall website.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
I'm lucky you who can go? Yes, lucky me? What else?

Speaker 8 (48:39):
What other?

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Do you have any other shows set up after that
that we should tell people about.

Speaker 6 (48:44):
Oh right now, just focus on this one because I
want this one. Yeah, the big one, folks to come here. Yeah,
all the shows will be in Massachusetts, and I'll post
them on my on my social media as well.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Yeah all that, yeah, spell Massachusetts.

Speaker 6 (49:04):
I can do that. I live here. M a s s.

Speaker 4 (49:08):
It's a bitch to Massachusets m A S S.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
I don't even know m A S S. M A
S A C h U S E T T S.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
Did you do it right?

Speaker 6 (49:21):
I think so Massachusets. Yeah, yeah, you got it.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
I just put M A S S. That's it. I
like love that.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
I think it's super cool.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
And you know, when I was a kid, I had
to do something about Massachusetts in school and I had
to recite it and I said Massachusetts two sets and everybody,
so everyone started laughing. So it's a difficult name. It's
an Indian.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
Tribeleen told me. Uh, and and I'm gonna yeah, because
you have so So you're from China, you don't have
a Chinese accent. You lived in Australia, you don't have
an Australian accent. You totally have an English accent. Like,
how did we get the English? How did you get
the English?

Speaker 4 (50:09):
So good? No, he doesn't have an English accent. He
speaks American.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
That's what I mean. English.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
Yes, No, English is England American. We're starting to do that.
Why you say something, We're starting to do that now.
When people say to you, what do you speak? We
no longer say English. We say American because English is.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
One No, that's British. They speak British.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
England is one speech America.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Anyway, I know, how how is it that you learned
how to speak so he speaks like you were born
in America.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
He speaks America?

Speaker 6 (50:44):
That is That is a good question. And I have
an identity crisis every day. But really I think I
adapt pretty quickly, like a chameleon, you know, with these accents.
But really I don't even know really why, but I
can speculate that it's due to Hollywood. It's due to

(51:06):
me watching Netflix.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
I wanted to see if that was real, because you listen,
you watch shows on Netflix, and you kind of picked
it up.

Speaker 6 (51:15):
Yeah, And it's funny that like, yeah, it's like it's
it's the best way to learn languages is to watch
other other films with your with subtitles. You learn learn
like that.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
And I think, getting back to what I was saying,
President Trump just made English the official language in America.
So now that any other language is not considered to
be used any longer. We're not supposed to have things
in Spanish or French or Italian and English. Now it's

(51:50):
strictly English. And if you're in this country, learn English.
If you don't know how to speak English, get the
hell out. Because when I go to Italy, I speak Italian.
I don't expect the Italians to speak their hairfass English.
So now we are saying we no longer speak English here,
we speak American and I love it like English? No,

(52:12):
why do you like English because you're a communist now
because British and British anyway, who cares?

Speaker 3 (52:17):
That doesn't have anything to do with this. So I
love being.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
An American and I love speaking American, and I know
Jason does too.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
He's a phenomenal as. I would never know that you
were like any of them. I mean, you speak so well,
you play so beautifully, So congratulations on all of that. Again, everybody.
You can follow Jason on Instagram. It's Jason G Music,
jayas O, n Ji Music, and it's jasongmusic dot com.
Get your tickets to see Jason along with all the

(52:47):
other great musicians at Carnegie Hall for March twenty seconds
and you go. You still keeping you must. You're using
the Berkeley School of Music people, so you must still
stay in touch with people at Berkeley.

Speaker 6 (53:00):
That's right, I do, Yeah, yeah, they're always great support.
What I want to mention one thing. I have it
twenty five percent discount that I like to offer it
to everyone for on the con for the Carnegie Hall concert.
I think I have the code sent over it, but

(53:20):
I can I can find it again.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
What is it again? Just tell everybody what it is
and we can tell them.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
How do you got the twenty five percent?

Speaker 3 (53:28):
We're going to tell you what the code than I
can write it. I can write it. He can put
it on the screen. But I don't know what the
code is. Let's see howd on I.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
Wish I were going. I really do. I mean that,
I'm going now, you depressed me. You came on my show.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
And actually you see in the thing where it says
comments private chat. Yeah, write the code in there and
he can throw that up on the on the screen
while we're like finishing up. He can put it on
the screen for everybody to get a discount. So you guys,
this is a code that we're going to put up
and if you're going to Carnegie Hall, when you buy
your ticket, you can throw this discount code in and
you get how much is the discount?

Speaker 4 (54:08):
How much has chicken in the house.

Speaker 6 (54:11):
The best ticket. We'll only have a forty five dollars
tiar and a fifty five dollars tier.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
You got all that. That's great, it's terrific. That's a
cheap trick. Yes, that's the deal. That's a that's quite
a deal. I don't think we should go for it. Yeah,
I don't think they should have offered it good for that.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
They want to sell it out Carnegie Hall. What a
great lineup.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
If we had the right promotional, he could have sold
feel it out.

Speaker 6 (54:43):
It seems like I have an issue sending it on
the comments. I sent it via private chat.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Yeah, you sent it in the private chat, and then hey,
why can you copy that and say private discount code
for Carnegie Hall and then make it and put it
on the screen for us for everybody to see us.
When the video comes out, everybody you'll see it. Yes,
and yeah, he'll get it out there. So why did
you decide to move to Massachusetts?

Speaker 4 (55:09):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (55:09):
I moved here for school initially for okay?

Speaker 4 (55:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (55:14):
Yeah? And I mean and.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
You just stayed there. You like the cold weather?

Speaker 8 (55:20):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (55:20):
I don't care for that specifically. I mean, there's a
lot of connections here. My wife is here also, and
you know a lot of amazing musicians, and I feel
like New England is is a little bit of an
on top market and music. It's it's not as big
as like Nashville, La, New York. So that is your

(55:43):
wife and a musician also, No, no, she's an artist.
She does visual arts.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
Because she together.

Speaker 8 (55:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (55:54):
Yeah, she makes a lot of my posters and my
websites and things like that. So it's yeah, it works
pretty well.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
So it was it was worth at marrying h huh.

Speaker 6 (56:04):
Yeah, yeah, I would say so, I mean.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Did you meet her in school?

Speaker 4 (56:09):
Did you mean while you were in school? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (56:12):
I did, I did. I mean, yeah, it was definitely
worth marrying her. But you know, the money I put
in her, I could probably hire like a website designers anyway.

Speaker 4 (56:25):
That's fun.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
No, I think it's terrific and it's great that.

Speaker 4 (56:28):
How long you're married, No.

Speaker 6 (56:31):
Very long, very recent, very very very real, very very recent.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
So I won't ask you if you have children.

Speaker 6 (56:45):
No, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
So you guys, Dan. This is Jason G. Follow him
on Instagram at Jason G Music. Jason g music dot
Com is his website. Fingerpicking Good at Carnegie Hall takes
place Saturday, March twenty second. The discount code is up
on the screen fg FPG four nine three nine four
for twenty five percent off the ticket prices.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
How much does that chicket come out to a thirty
five dollars tick.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
Forty five forty five minus twenty five percent about eleven
dollars around eleven dollars and the twenty five cents.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
Eleven dollars bage, eleven dollars and twenty five cents.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
That's right in my class. I don't know enough.

Speaker 4 (57:25):
That's enough. Eleven dollars is enough to get a Starbucks coffee?
And of course On, yes, so you've been to have
a coffee across On and Jason.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
We have both for the have a friend too in
the chat room, Lady Late Music, and she works with
people who up north, and she said, there's a great
music community where you are, that you're in a great spot.
There's a great community there. And she's big and he's
a big music promoter. And so Jason, we want to
wish you all the luck at Carnegie Hall. We want
to thank you for coming on and sharing your gift
with us. You're extremely talented and I'm super happy to

(57:58):
actually get to see it live.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
Send I'm from the olden days of entertainment, Break a Leg.

Speaker 6 (58:05):
Thank you, thank you very much much for having me.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
Yeah, this was really fun, absolutely so good, terrific Jason.
Good luck with the show, have a good time, and
we'll have you back when you're going on some other shows.
But thank you so much for coming on. We appreciate it,
and we wish you all the best.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
And I want to hear you play one day malagaan.

Speaker 6 (58:27):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know something like that, right,
there's a full arrangement that I'm I was looking to
learn actually, but yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
I'll come to your show. That's awesome.

Speaker 6 (58:51):
I bet I bet you if I play it you
in l a man, It's okay, it's all good.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
That's terrific, all right, that's horrific though.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
So thank you, Jason. We'll see you soon. Good luck
with the show. And uh not, good luck break a
leg with the show. And I just had knee surgery.
My knee hurts. I don't like to talk about lice anyway.
It's been a pleasure getting to meet you, and you're
super talented, and thank you so much, and we'll see
you soon.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
Take care of her.

Speaker 6 (59:22):
Have a good day y'all time you too.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
Hey, everybody, So that's Jason g super talent.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
I love to see young people with such talent, not
just rapping. You know, which anybody could do is talk
when you have music playing. But people like this kid,
they study so hard and the outcome is so wonderful
speaking concert and classical music alive and we have to

(59:55):
always keep it alive. We must never lose classical music
and for into the cesspool of what is today's music.
I call it cesspool.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
So we want to also welcome to the chat room
Terry Jerrold.

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
He's actually one of our writers for Dark Fright's magazine
and he's never been to the chat room before, so hello.
He's in there as Harlowe's Haunt, which is his first
horror movie. That's a really good film. Everybody should check
it out and check out Harlow's Hunt on Facebook Harlow's Haunt.
And uh, so you guys were going to take a
quick music break. We're going to listen to Adel Hello,

(01:00:35):
the Emblem three cover. This will probably be the last
week we do it, but I like it so much.
And this is and so it's emblem three cover. So
check it out, everybody, and we'll be right back.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
You see Adel already made who it's me.

Speaker 7 (01:01:06):
I was wondering if, after all these years you like
to me to go over everything they say the time
supposed to hear you are, but.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
I ain't done much ing, Hew.

Speaker 7 (01:01:26):
Can you really I've been in conform your dreaming about
who we used.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
To be when we will younger.

Speaker 7 (01:01:37):
Every I forgot to love with them before the world
fell outaphet to such a difference between us and.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
Hell from Nya, that's not.

Speaker 7 (01:02:02):
I must have called a thousand times to take you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
I'm sorry for everything that.

Speaker 9 (01:02:12):
I've done, and when I call you, never seeing Toby home.
Hello from mere s Alice Stack can see that to
take you. I'm sorry for being to kick your heart

(01:02:35):
with that too. Man clearly doesn't tell.

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
You about and.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
Hello, who are you God?

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
It's sort of.

Speaker 7 (01:02:54):
Becalling me to talk about myself. I'm sorry, O Ho,
that's your will?

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
Did you ever make you out of that town? When
nothing ever happened?

Speaker 7 (01:03:10):
It's no secret that double the bas surruning out of time.

Speaker 9 (01:03:22):
Come from the other side. I'm a stiff collar thousand times.

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
It's the talk.

Speaker 9 (01:03:34):
I'm sorry for everything that out time I went, Oh
come never see its happy home cower front Elli Sneck
can see that life to talk? Sorry for Brigago Carment.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
Does he tell you name?

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Hey? Everybody? So that was again that was Adele's cover
by emblem three of Hello. And we're going to bring
on our next guest. Hopefully we can hear him now
and let's see how it goes. Bring him on in
one Hello.

Speaker 6 (01:04:41):
Hello?

Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
Is it Alan or Alam? It's Allen okay?

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
And how do we pronounce your last name?

Speaker 8 (01:04:48):
Ah, that's a bit of a challenge.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
Clipfish clipfish, So it's like instead of a zi, it
sounds like an ash.

Speaker 8 (01:04:56):
Exactly correct. I think the origin is Hollander, shs and English.

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
We had a kid in school when I went to
school whose name was clip Shits. Are you any relation
to Brooklyn? Naturally, Yes, I do.

Speaker 8 (01:05:11):
I have some relations in the States. There is a
lady called Irena Clipfish who was a professor Barnard, I believe,
and there's a few of us around.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
Because this person would be about my age eighty four
years old because I went to school with him. Wow,
I'm trying to think of his first name. I think
it was.

Speaker 8 (01:05:33):
Seymour, Seymour clipfish. I'll have to look him up. We
are close knit family, although I don't know Seymour.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
But how do you spell it? I think he spelt
that Z would an s.

Speaker 8 (01:05:50):
Ah okay, not as Z would an S.

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
Maybe I'm not sure this is I'm going back nineteen
fifty six. He is.

Speaker 8 (01:06:00):
I was born the year before.

Speaker 6 (01:06:04):
Thanks.

Speaker 8 (01:06:06):
Some members of the family decide to Anglicizers and make
it an sh for easier consumption, but our path kept
it as it is.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
So hold on, let me do an actual introduction now
that we know how to pronounce it. All right, everybody,
Now we want to welcome to the Jimmy Star Show
with Ron Russell, the global chief executive officer and co
founder of Phoenix three sixty Alan Klepfish perfect. Hey, So
this is my cool, outrageous man about town co host
Ron Russell.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
Are you sorry to meet you?

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
And you have people in the chatroom, so say hi
everybody in the chat room.

Speaker 8 (01:06:43):
Hi to everybody in the chat room. And this is
astro am high astro Astro seems like an old hands broadcasting.

Speaker 4 (01:06:54):
Yes, he loves it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
He's a ham. He loves to be on the air.
He's always camera ready, he's always camera So, now where
are you from? Because you have an accent and it
sounds like it's I'm going to guess Australian.

Speaker 8 (01:07:05):
But no, you made an entirely accurate guess. I am
from Australia. In Australia, they say you have an accent also,
and that comes from living eleven years in New York,
seven years in California, Berkeley, California. But I am from Australia.
I until about fifteen years ago, I lived in New York.

(01:07:25):
I met my lovely wife in New York. So I'm
at least partly in New Yorker.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
They where in New York runs from New York from Brooklyn,
don't ever say.

Speaker 4 (01:07:36):
I hate when they say that runs from New York. No,
I'm not from New York. I'm from Brooklyn. Because if
you're from Brooklyn, you're special. You are from New Yorker, anybody, anybody.

Speaker 8 (01:07:48):
I once read a list, which I'm sure is pretty
readily accessible, of all the great success stories from Brooklyn,
and it's an unbelievably long and list. Right, there is
something special about Brooklyn. I didn't live in Brooklyn. Sadly,
I lived in Manhattan on Madison between thirty fifth and
thirty six, but I absolutely loved the eleven years.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
I did it right, Oh, Susan Hayward, Barbara Stamwick. So
many people came from Brooklyn, Lauren Bacall, I mean the
actors and actresses plus politicians. Brooklyn. You know, it was
the melting part of Europe. So in the turn of
the century, everyone from Europe, Eastern Europe, Italy, Oliver went

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to Brooklyn, and it made Brooklyn a cultural place. Unfortunately,
we dissected the language and we made it Brooklyn ease,
so we speak differently than anyone else from the East Coast.

Speaker 8 (01:08:50):
I just as you were speaking, and out of fascination,
I did a bit of an AI search, and the
list is staggering of people from Brooklyn. You've got people
like Barbara streisans like Eddie Murphy, mel brooks Adam Sandler.
In sports you have Mike Tyson, Vince Lombardi. Right, in

(01:09:11):
politics you have Bernie Sanders, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, right, I mean,
what a list. In science and literature you have Carl Sagan,
Norman Mailer. It's a hell of a list.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
Actually, Ron knew Carl Sagan.

Speaker 4 (01:09:27):
I knew Carl Sagan's wife, Linda. We were neighbors in
Beverly Hills. She lived next ordinary, so I got to
know Carl. Carl was a strange man, very change.

Speaker 8 (01:09:40):
Well, it's often are weird. Yeah, that is true.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
So you lived in New York where?

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
Where did you live in California?

Speaker 8 (01:09:49):
In Berkeley? Berkeley. I actually I don't know how well
you know Berkeley, but I had a restaurant on Telegraph
Avenue when I was twenty one years old.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
Oh wow, wouldn't be there today. You would not be
in Berkeley today. Berkeley is probably one of the most
dangerous places to go live or be.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
That's the same Berkeley that our last guest went to.

Speaker 4 (01:10:11):
School, Berkeley, California.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Where's Berkeley College of Music. I think that's not in California.

Speaker 8 (01:10:17):
Yeah, that's in Boston.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
I think.

Speaker 4 (01:10:19):
Okay, you go to Berkeley, California.

Speaker 8 (01:10:21):
Yeah, California. I was living in Berkeley, California. Those were
the heydays for Berkeley. I've been back, and apart from
you know, the fact it might be dangerous, I don't
really know. What I do know is it's become a
lot grimier than it was.

Speaker 4 (01:10:35):
So homeless people, drug addicts, dope selling, uh, the cartel people.
It's just horrible. California has turned to shit because of
our governor. I guess he's not doing much to help
us out, and we have just so many things going
on that are wrong. California used to be that most

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heavenly place in the world to live once, unfortunately not
any long.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
But you're actually coming to California now right for a
big event in.

Speaker 8 (01:11:07):
This I am indeed, I think, and there is a
relationship between California and Australia, so hopefully it isn't quite
as predictable as used to be. But I think it
was big new Brazinski right, who said that Australia was
California minus fifteen years.

Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
I've never been to Australia, but I have a very, very,
very dear friend who is Australian, and if he is
an example of what the Australian people are like, I'll
take thousands, in millions and trillions. He's one of the
most He's a gentleman with manners. He's just a wonderful

(01:11:46):
human being and you all love him.

Speaker 8 (01:11:50):
I'm sure I would. I can't say it's true of
every Australian but pretty fine bunch in general. And for
my parents after the Second World War, their view to
get as far away from the world as they knew
as they could in Australia was the answer. And I
have to say, these days, with the world a little
bit screwed up, sort of, I have a similar sentiment.

(01:12:12):
It's not too bad living far away from it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
And we've had some great guests from Australia on the show,
and we just had our last guest, Jason Grom Australia.

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
We have to talk about. But we have this beautiful
blonde girl. I can't think of her name. Who is
a cellist? Violinists? Oh, Daisy Joplin. Daisy Joplin, do you
know the name? I don't, but she played in Egypt
between the Pyramids. Would you imagine she is better than Yanni?

(01:12:44):
She is the most fabulous entertainer. Look her up, listen
to her music. You'll go crazy. I will shoot Australian
and we love her. She lives here in California and
she's one of the nicest, loveliest people you want to
meet self charming, charming, So.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
I want to like with the conversation. But first of all,
you're going March sixteenth for mus Expo twenty twenty five
in Burbank, California as the creator and the CEO of
Phoenix three sixty. So I would say half of our
audience that listens, anybody who's younger, and even a lot
of the older people who listen are all in the

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entertainment industry. Many are in the music industry. We have
a lot of people who watch the show who are
like promoters and reps of artists and stuff. And you've
actually developed the product you know that's gonna be a
really big thing for musicians and artists to make money
with their craft. And it's called Phoenix three sixty. So
why don't you give us like the shortest version you

(01:13:46):
can of telling everybody what Phoenix three sixty actually.

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
How about you just saying what an actor like me
can do to make a lot of money. Jimmy doesn't
pay me. There you go, go tell us a little
bit about what it is.

Speaker 8 (01:14:00):
So the basic goal of Phoenix three sixty is to
allow any artist. There's obviously a lot of musicians, but
they could be visual artists. I happen to be married
to one right. They could be actors, models, dancers, whatever
they may be. The basic idea is that even if
they're not enormously famous, if they have, for example, five

(01:14:22):
or ten thousand fans, that they can monetize them sufficiently
to earn a living and not have to work a
second or third job. Right. And the fact of the
matter is that social media at the moment has enough
dollars associated with it that, if they were evenly distributed
to artists, artists would be able to do that. We simply,

(01:14:43):
in the first place, give an artist a very high
percentage of advertising dollars. We give them many many different
ways to monetize, from creating very easily NFTs to having
their own merchandise door to having very easy live streaming,
you name it. As long as the legitimate way for
them to earn a dollar, we do it. In all

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of those activities, we give ninety five percent to the artist.
When it comes to advertising, the artists gets seventy percent,
the middleman ten percent. They are vastly higher figures than
exists in the moments. In addition to revenue, we give
them lots of tools, like, for example, when you are
on a social media platform, you don't really know where

(01:15:24):
your fans are. We give them the address of every
fan down to the street address without violating privacy. There's
no names involved, and we give them tools that they
can take whatever number of fans they've got and really
really readily monetize them. So one of the things they
can do within our app is create their own app,
which is like a mobile profile if you like. It's

(01:15:47):
a web app and they just put a URL on
Facebook wherever it is, ambo clicks on it. It's their app,
and that's the roots to come to us. But also
that personally comes via artists belong side artists, and they
keep on earning revenue every month even if they don't
have a hit video, or if they don't have a
brilliant new painting or whatever it may be. So that's

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it in a nutshell.

Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
So what does it cost to get your How much
is it?

Speaker 8 (01:16:11):
Zero? Zero?

Speaker 4 (01:16:13):
Is that the right price? Yes? So what's the point
Why did you do this?

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
You know?

Speaker 8 (01:16:19):
Well, no, we can make money. There's an altruistic part
because my partner, who happens to be have come from
London thirty five years ago to New York, right. He
came as a musician my wife is a visual artist,
so there's an altruistic part. We felt passionately about this,
but the hard headed business part is that even the

(01:16:41):
twenty percent of advertising we retain is enough to have
a multi billion dollar company. The truth is, if we're
not greedy about it and give the artist a really
good chance, it doesn't preclude us from making a living,
and we think we can make a fine one.

Speaker 4 (01:16:56):
Okay, say it slowly because we have a lot of
all people don't listen and watch our show. Say it
very slowly, so we could get that app and go
on it. What is it?

Speaker 8 (01:17:06):
It's Phoenix fe ni x three six zero ni x
three six zero and we're going to launch in the
States towards the end of the year, but it's available
if anybody wants it, and we're doing sort of a
slow role. We've just done some trial launchers in Indonesia, Malaysia,

(01:17:28):
the Philippines, and these are interesting markets. You know, if
you ask the average Australian or average American how many
people live in the Philippines, they have no idea. I
myself was shocked. Do you know how many people live
in the Philippines?

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
No idea?

Speaker 8 (01:17:44):
Okay, or in Indonesia. So let's begin with Indonesia. Indonesia
has two hundred and seventy two million people in it, right,
that's a lot of people. It's a lot of people.
It happens to be the largest Muslim country in the world,
tie undred seventy two million people. But the average age
of a person in the United States, I believe it's
thirty eight. In Europe it's forty three, Indonesia twenty nine,

(01:18:08):
and Philippines twenty six. So these are pretty interesting markets
if you're going to be in social media.

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
Okay, now I need to get it again clearly, because
I'm a little confused. I go on your app and
I become a member. What do I do? I mean,
how do I I'm old, I don't know computers, nor
do many active friends of mine who are young. How
do we go about? Is it a difficult app? No,

(01:18:37):
to do a lot of stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:18:38):
You can in twenty minutes create your own app within
our app, and you can post the address to URL
for it anywhere you like. It's pretty simple. But if
you're just a user rather than a creator, you can
just flick through videos like TikTok, etc. What we're trying
to do is create a level of engagement. There's not

(01:19:00):
just watching a video. When you watch a video, you
like that actor, you like that artist, you click on
their app and you go into their whole universe, so
you're able to transact with them. You're able to communicate
with them, You're able to see everything about their career.
So the idea is from a video, you say, Wow,
that actor is amazing, and then you go into their
whole universe.

Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
So what I would do is I would go on
your app and I would post my reel.

Speaker 8 (01:19:26):
You would work real, you would, But it's a special deal.
Why don't I make you a sample app and see
what you think of it?

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
There you go, yeah, wait, I have a question for them.
I have a question because I went through the whole website,
which you guys can go to Phoenix three sixty dot com,
Fbnix three six zero dot com to see more about it.
It's a fascinating app. So everybody like, I'm on TikTok
and app, and so I create videos on TikTok. So

(01:19:58):
does anybody who is one of your fans. They have
to actually create a They don't have to create a
creator account, but they have to have an account to
be able to see your stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:20:06):
On the app, right, Yeah, so if they want to
put their stuff on, yes, they nominate themselves as an artist,
and then they quickly make an app. It's really like
making a profile on any of the existing social media,
except it's a mobile profile. You can put it anywhere
for people to click on. So yeah, and engagement is

(01:20:26):
really important. I mean I use TikTok a lot lot.
You know, there's obviously lots of people. Do the numbers
keep on increasing, But engagement is an issue for some
of these social media companies because once you watch the videos,
what do you then do here? Right here?

Speaker 7 (01:20:41):
Right?

Speaker 8 (01:20:41):
You like an artist and you literally go into everything
imaginal about their career. We have a section where there's
every link to their career, right, So you know, some
of these artists put on twenty links and suddenly all
of the various places you know, where they have merchandise,
where they have interview is right, and where they have videos. Right,

(01:21:02):
it's all amalgamated in one place, so you can really
get immersed into the artists that you have an interest in.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
So's I have a very important I don't want to
lose what I'm thinking this is so important. This is
probably the most important question you have ever been asked.
I go public and I have screwballs that say the
most dreadful things. Can people attack me on your site?

Speaker 7 (01:21:30):
No?

Speaker 8 (01:21:31):
So, first of all, there are a lot of sites
which are political, which you know have nasty comments.

Speaker 6 (01:21:39):
Right.

Speaker 8 (01:21:40):
This is not a site for people posting nasty comments
or any comments.

Speaker 4 (01:21:46):
It's a site candy can they Because if I put
up my reel and some evil person says, oh, you
stink you're allows the actor, can that be put on
the site?

Speaker 8 (01:21:57):
I just read it. The answer is it is possible
for somebody to make a comment and it could be nasty,
but we will weed out anything that's inappropriate. But it's
not the main feature. Mostly you don't see comments, You
just see art, right, And by the way, that also
commercially is a bit more appropriate for advertisers, because advertisers

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don't want to be next to a nasty comment, right,
you know, they want to be next to something which
is dependable, and art in general is a nice environment
to be around. And for a lot of us, you know,
we consume music very easily. But if you want to
go and look at paintings, or you want to go
and look at some fantastic dancing or whatever. It's not

(01:22:42):
so easy to find digital sources for all of that.
So the fact we amalgamate all the arts we think
is a little bit of a plus also.

Speaker 4 (01:22:50):
So I think it's terrific.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
First, why I Lean Shapiro is in the chairm She
says hello, So I'm saying hello.

Speaker 8 (01:22:56):
Aleen Shapiro is an extraordinary lady. You probably have known
her for longer than I've known her, but I've known
her for long enough to know she's extraordinary.

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
Yes, she's extraordinary, And she's my business partner in our
PR company.

Speaker 4 (01:23:09):
And she loves to cook, clean wash, she does, she
washes her car herself, she does everything. She she brushes
the neighbor's dog. Well said, she said that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
You should make me an app so I can see
how it works.

Speaker 4 (01:23:28):
I want it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
I'm I'm on all the social media platforms and and
kind of like I was singing that in a way.

Speaker 4 (01:23:34):
So do you know what link tree is?

Speaker 8 (01:23:36):
And I not only know what link tree is, but
we have our version. By the way, link Tree comes
from Melbourne, Australia.

Speaker 4 (01:23:43):
Right there, you go, So I.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
Link Tree, you won't know what that is.

Speaker 4 (01:23:48):
So I heard.

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
All the young people will know. Link Tree is an
app that uses to put all your social media and
websites and everything in one place. Yours brother, let me
please finish. So basically, this is like a link tree
in a way, it's kind of your app is kind
of like a link tree, except for that link tree.
You can't make money, you know, yours. You can act,
if you can get the if you get the people
to engage, then you actually make money because you can

(01:24:13):
promote all the different things that you're doing. If you
like it, let me answer the question.

Speaker 8 (01:24:18):
If you like it's an amalgam of link tree and
TikTok and Facebook. It has features of all of them.
And importantly it's you know, the things that at the
moment in disparate places on the internet. So you have
to go here. If you want to support an artist financially,
you have to go here. If you want to get
merchandised from them, you have to go here. If you

(01:24:39):
want to get videos, it's all in one place. The
artists can really really show off their wares and hopefully
make enough money. And you know, we calculate just by
you know, way of very specific metric. Example, we calculate
that an artist can make a dollar forty four per
month minimum per app and st all through them. So

(01:25:00):
if they have ten thousand fans, they could make maybe
fourteen thousand dollars. Now, obviously there's a lot of variables.
That's how calculation. We can't guarantee it. But you know,
an artist that makes fourteen thousand a month, it's not
bad in Indonesia, they'll only make ten percent of that,
but fourteen hundred dollars US a month in Indonesia, Fanadas
is completely transformative, and that's what we wanted to be.

(01:25:22):
We just want to be transformative for others.

Speaker 4 (01:25:24):
So if I join your app, I'm going to be
very rich. Because we have all the five million fans.
You're already very rich.

Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
This show goes all.

Speaker 4 (01:25:36):
Over the world. We are seeing by five million people.

Speaker 8 (01:25:41):
Well let's make it rich.

Speaker 4 (01:25:43):
We just did a billion downloads. If we want to, Yeah,
if I make you money, would I make.

Speaker 8 (01:25:50):
If I make you rich, will you have me on
every month?

Speaker 4 (01:25:53):
So if you make me rich, I will buy you Brooklyn.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
By the way, we want we want to give a
shout out to John Vealesco too, because he's like, I
love you, So we'll give give a shout out to
John Vealesco. And I think this is a great idea,
and so I guess basically the key though, is to
get as many people to sign up, even if they're
not creators, because you need the fans to sign up,
so that the key to the whole thing is to

(01:26:20):
get the fans to sign up to the app so
they can participate in in what you're promoting. Let him answer, well,
it's an important question. You asked the question. Yeah, so
I have him answer it for him.

Speaker 8 (01:26:34):
So I'll tell you. I'll tell you an interesting thing
about creative signing up. So during COVID, we were all
reasonably limited and what we could do, and we were
sort of in the middle of creating this business, but
it involved flying around the world, etc. And we couldn't
do any of that. So the question is what could
we do? And after a while I decided the most

(01:26:55):
useful thing to do was get outst ambassadors, people that
had varying degree of passion but at least some passion
for what we were doing, and we would get them
to sign on as an ambassador and we would interview them.
So a wonderful Broadway director of banam of Will Nunziata.
He became a friend, and he also decided that we

(01:27:20):
were transformative to the arts and he would really get
involved in finding these artists to come on board. Him
and another lady called Ashley Channel. And by the way,
Ashley just wrote a musical which made its debut in
London and Will directors and they both met in our organization.
But right, but they went out and got artists artist ambassadors,

(01:27:43):
and I had no idea. I thought maybe a few
hundred during COVID. They ended up getting seven thousand artists
and bassadors, and Will interviewed two thousand of them, which
you can see on our YouTube channel. Two thousand interviews
with artists as to why this was important because one
of the things about COVID which I never really expected,
is it hits artists really hard because they couldn't perform.

(01:28:07):
They couldn't perform, and what they realized is the middlemen
were still living fine. But even if they were disciplined
and they had a year and a half or two
years of saving, it all dissipated and they became the
classical starving artists, while all the middle people were still
doing fine. And it really really brought home to them, right,

(01:28:28):
you know how unfaired was they weren't properly compensated.

Speaker 4 (01:28:32):
So lo what my thinking is? Correct me? If I'm wrong,
you replace the agent. People can't get an agent. A
lot of actors are good actors, but the agent says,
what's your work record? You don't have enough here, so
they dismissed them. If they join your app, it's their
agent that will get them work because they can show

(01:28:55):
their real and what they do for a living and
how well they do it. So you are, in essence
the pr person the agent. A lot of people in
your app, Am I right?

Speaker 8 (01:29:07):
And you are one hundred percent correct? And it's a
very insightful comment. And because for example, ninety eight percent
of musicians don't have a label, right, and so they
struggle without a record label, right, And in most parts
it's the case right now. Of course, the only thing
we can replace is Iley and Shapiro. Everything else we can.

Speaker 4 (01:29:30):
Thing we can replaces Alan shap Oh, she's loving it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
She's in the chat room.

Speaker 4 (01:29:34):
No let me tell you something. You could replace her
with a blow up.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
Though anyway, the wait So so another market then for
this because like I have a friend who's got like
an not really an agency, but she reps influencers, you know.
Like like I have a good friend who's an MMA
fighter and he's got like a million something followers on TikTok,
you know, and he's got forty something million likes, you know,

(01:30:00):
so for him to like he could transfer this over
to there and like already have you know, millions of
people that follow him, you know, and turn it in
so you could market yourself to like agencies and influencers
and you know, and actually a lot of well known
people too who don't have we know, being in the
movie industry, we know a ton of like well known
actors who they might have a manager or something, but

(01:30:22):
they don't really have a way to get to the
fans like this that they could actually you know, put
up poor movie takes all the different things that they do.

Speaker 4 (01:30:30):
Because years ago a movie was made and we went
to see the movie because of the actor. We didn't
know the script, so we went because it was a
rock clutching movie or whatever. Today that doesn't work anymore. Today,
they go by the popular vote or by the attendance
of people. If you are a crappy actor in a

(01:30:53):
rotten movie, but you have twenty million people watching it,
you will be hired again.

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
Talking about social media following.

Speaker 4 (01:31:01):
Unfortunately, this is what it's become. It's no longer about
who are you? What can you do? Are you good?
There are no more Betty Davis's. You know, when Betty
Davis made a movie, everybody went nuts. They don't do
that anymore. So your site, your app will give me
the opportunity to show that I have a big following

(01:31:24):
of many people, and I'm a good actor.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
I like it.

Speaker 4 (01:31:28):
It's a good idea. I'm going to tell my friends
about it.

Speaker 8 (01:31:31):
Well, thank you very much. The other thing is, if
you have, for example, a musician, there's only so many
great videos you can bring out, and for a sort
of starving musician, videos expensive. Right of their music, there's
only so many good songs, right, So in between, if
you did a cooking class on Monday or a yoga

(01:31:52):
class on Wednesday, and you know you have one thousand
fans sign in and they pay two dollars each, that's
enough to contribute to the rent. That's enough to contribute
to a living. So you don't just have to do
your art The fact of the matter is most fans
want to be involved with the artists that they really like,
and if it's you know, not creating the art, but

(01:32:14):
just doing something that the fan will find interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:32:18):
You know, if you are famous, right, if Lady Gaga
painted her nails, she would probably get fifty million people.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:32:26):
Look right now, that's funny. Now, what's the downfall of
your app? Is there a downfall?

Speaker 8 (01:32:34):
Yeah? The downfall is that the founder can't be with
his family very often.

Speaker 3 (01:32:40):
So so you're always traveling, right, You travel all the time.

Speaker 8 (01:32:46):
I travel. I fell a passport in somewhere between eighteen
months and two years. This I think is my twenty
first visit to New York in about seven months. And
it's only fifty some hours from Australia round trip, so
it's not too bad. But it's to pay for my sins.
Because my sin was I lived in Manhattan. The commute

(01:33:08):
to work was a spiral staircase from my bedroom up
to the office. I never appreciate it. So now I
commute from bloody Australia.

Speaker 4 (01:33:17):
We're going to Florida next week and I dread the
six hour flight. You know, it's not six hours. Because
the airlines are creeps. I hate them all because they
make us fly to Dallas or to Atlanta and then
catch another plane to Palm Beach. That's nonsense. What happened
to non stop? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:33:37):
Well, now my favorite flight is you get on in Melbourne, right,
you have a meal, you have a sleep, and you
wake up in La or San Francisco. So I often
take that flight now, and it's great. There's no stops
on the way. You start out in Australia, you land
in the States. Fantastic.

Speaker 4 (01:33:56):
America got rid of all the non stops. They are
they're very rare, and they cost a lot more money,
so it's really unfair. I think that the airline should
go back to what they were in the nineteen sixties.

Speaker 8 (01:34:09):
And until they do, you can move to Australia.

Speaker 4 (01:34:14):
What the hell am I going to do.

Speaker 3 (01:34:15):
In I would love I mean, I like a lot
of people, and I love all the guests. My one
of my favorite actresses of all time is Australian.

Speaker 4 (01:34:23):
I would never move to Australia.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
You know why.

Speaker 4 (01:34:26):
My daughters both live in Pennsylvania. Now that's why I'm
moving to Florida, so I'm closer to Pennsylvania. I'm very close.
I see my daughters often. Could you imagine having to
make the flight from Pennsylvania to Australia. How long is that?
Twenty five hours or something? How many daughters do you

(01:34:46):
have two daughters?

Speaker 8 (01:34:48):
I have four and one on.

Speaker 4 (01:34:52):
But they're all in Australia.

Speaker 8 (01:34:53):
They're all in Australia.

Speaker 4 (01:34:55):
But if you were living in New York it would
be a bitch because then you have to fly all
back and forth to Australian.

Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
Do any of them work in entertainment?

Speaker 8 (01:35:04):
No, they unfortunately done. There's a very curious thing about
my daughters. The eldest one went to the John Jay
School of Criminal Justice in New York. She's a forensic scientist,
although she doesn't work in the field because she says, Dad,
there's not enough murders in Australia, right and.

Speaker 1 (01:35:24):
So so?

Speaker 8 (01:35:25):
And the middle one is a forensic psychologist. And the
youngest one, right was the youngest of my older daughters,
and I have an eleven year old daughter. But the
youngest of my oldest daughter was going to open detective agency.
I said to my part the lance in New York,
did they watch you know too much? CSI why are
they all oriented towards forensics? He said, you don't get it,

(01:35:46):
and I said, I have no idea why. He said,
it's you. You're the most forensic person I know. So
I guess it's my body fault.

Speaker 3 (01:35:54):
I love those shows.

Speaker 4 (01:35:56):
Just show your kids to move to LA. There are
plenty of they'll be in that glory. Don't murders every
four minutes, says somebody getting murdered.

Speaker 3 (01:36:05):
So you, guys, if you want to find out more
about Phoenix three sixty number one, I'm gonna read the
mission statement just because I actually wrote it down so
that way you can hear what it says, and you
can also see this on their website. But the mission
statement of Phoenix three sixty. Despite there being tons of
millions of artists worldwide, only a small number of them
make a decent living from their craft. Phoenix three sixty

(01:36:27):
is designed to give independent artists a fair go in
the music and other industries by providing a platform that
allows them to access new fans globally while earning additional income.
Built on blockchain technology, it focuses on creators from all crafts,
and it's designed as a multi lingual showcase in marketplace
for artists of all kinds. And you guys can go
to Phoenix three sixty dot com and they have an

(01:36:49):
Instagram page which is Phoenix three sixty underscore net.

Speaker 8 (01:36:53):
That is all true and what wonderfully read. Nobody's ever
done that red our mission statement.

Speaker 4 (01:36:59):
Oh really, alum alam, I just got a couple of
million people to join. You know why, I had a
great way to raise money for a movie. If you're
a producer and you're looking for backers, this is my
greatest way.

Speaker 8 (01:37:17):
Huh, you should say, because you mentioned the wonderful mister
Velasko just before. So mister Velasko is going to run
a division we bought a Singapore company called Wow TV.
And so while this is an app, we haven't yet
done much with it, but we're going to. We're also
going to have a version on TV screens around the world.

(01:37:38):
And the idea is, if you've done a pilot and
it didn't go anywhere, if you've had, you know, a
series which was axed after two shows, whatever it may be,
all this stuff which is not sufficiently commercial but which
is interesting, right, We're going to enable creators in the
movie industry also to show it, right, it's easy for

(01:37:59):
yousicians to have music on apps, etc. But it's much harder.
Right if you had something to do with producing movies
and you didn't make it, but you just want to
share it with the world, and maybe the world will
decide you deserve to make it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:12):
That's very cool actually, because there isn't besides putting things
on YouTube. There's really not no please so and I'm
a producer, so like, I like that whole idea. I
think it's terrific.

Speaker 8 (01:38:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:38:24):
Now, if you're a hooker, can you go on your
site and get customers. We have a lot of hookers.

Speaker 8 (01:38:36):
Yes, Well, if you have a lot of hookers, right,
please introduce them. We'll put them on the side so.

Speaker 4 (01:38:44):
It's not an only fans.

Speaker 3 (01:38:45):
I like love it though. That was funny.

Speaker 4 (01:38:47):
That was good.

Speaker 8 (01:38:50):
Yeah. I like you.

Speaker 4 (01:38:51):
Hey, listen, you have a nice personality. See you're Australia. Okay,
you a fun guy.

Speaker 8 (01:38:58):
Well, thank you, and I like you you guys. I
was once going to start a as some sort of
conference series, right because I was at a Hacker conference, right,
And at the Hacker conference, I had hawkers and I thought, wow,
you know, somebody should start a conference series around the

(01:39:20):
world called hookers, hackers and hawkers, and.

Speaker 4 (01:39:25):
I don't you make a fortune.

Speaker 3 (01:39:28):
I know what a hander is or what's a hawker?

Speaker 8 (01:39:32):
What a howker is somebody to sell usuff. A hacker
somebody breaks into computer code, and a hooker, you guys
seem to be fined.

Speaker 3 (01:39:39):
With Like I've lost two Instagram accounts, I lost a
Twitter account, I lost my SoundCloud just got hacked.

Speaker 1 (01:39:47):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
Look, so I get hacked and I and I even
with like two point authentic authentication or whatever you hell
do you call it? Two factor authentication and stuff, So
like I hate the hackers part, even though I.

Speaker 4 (01:39:58):
Wish I could do it. I'm going to I'm going
to join your site and then after I do, next week,
I will tell I have to tell. Let me tell
you something right now, we have five million people that
watch this show. I'm not bullshitting you. We have an
enormous fart with number one. We have a number one
show here, So whatever we push, if it's good, goes.

(01:40:22):
I'm going to tell my people next week how easy
it was to join your site and that I just
got an Academy award, and.

Speaker 8 (01:40:33):
I'm going to make you both apps, right, and you
can add anything.

Speaker 4 (01:40:38):
I want to make it. I want to make it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:41):
Let him make you one.

Speaker 4 (01:40:41):
No, I want to do it. I want to see
how easy it is, so I could tell anybody next week.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
You're not the one to really do it because you're
not really computer like it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:50):
I'm not going to give.

Speaker 8 (01:40:52):
And you can add holkas to it. You can add
whatever you like to it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:55):
There you go. You can make mine because that way,
I don't even have to work my cell phone. I
don't even I don't even text message. You know why,
because I'm not interested. I'm old. I'm eighty four years old.
I'll be eighty five in a month. I'm from the
day of Hello, honey, how are you? I love you.
I like hearing the voice. My kids text me, I

(01:41:19):
go crazy. Do not text me. I tell them because
if I die, you can't listen to a text. But
you can. You can listen to my message or my voice.
We have become some mechanical in this world. It's disgusting.
I don't know how old you are, but you're nowhere
near my age.

Speaker 8 (01:41:39):
Because I know any bloody old.

Speaker 4 (01:41:41):
I know when you were born. When you were born,
I was about seventeen or eighteen.

Speaker 8 (01:41:46):
Yeah, yeah, so that is true. But the other thing is,
as you get older, you feel as though every minute
is more precious, and it's a fair decision to say
that those precious minutes should not be spent on a
bloody phone and doing things in the real world.

Speaker 4 (01:42:03):
Yeah, who gives a shit about the real world. It stinks.
It's not my world. It's not my world.

Speaker 8 (01:42:09):
I was taking if phone stink in the real world stink,
What does that leave?

Speaker 4 (01:42:13):
My world was perfect the nineteen fifties and sixties. It
was wonderful living here. Everybody was We were not fighting
among each other. We were all one. We were neighbors
that spoke to each other and helped each other.

Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
Any of our neighbors, they're all nasty.

Speaker 4 (01:42:31):
Today it's today everybody. Oh listen, I'm in the doctor's
office right, there's maybe thirty people. They're all on cell phones, tech,
text messaging. I want to vomit because years ago, in
a doctor's room, you spoke to the patients, Hi, what
are you here for? Oh, you know, you listen to
their crap. But today it's all text message. I see kids,

(01:42:53):
young kids walking in the street in Manhattan text messaging
or talking and they got there and.

Speaker 3 (01:43:01):
One of those people.

Speaker 4 (01:43:02):
I think it's disgusting because nobody communicates any war, no
one holds a door for anyone, and no one is
polite anymore. No one cares. It's to get out of
my way. I'm texting your jerk and they're doing it's
a horrible place.

Speaker 3 (01:43:17):
Well, I'm loving it because I'm a social media guru.

Speaker 4 (01:43:20):
I have about it was born in nineteen sixty four.

Speaker 3 (01:43:23):
What I have about one hundred and I have about
a million and a half followers in social media.

Speaker 4 (01:43:28):
That's a good deal. I'd rather have two neighbors that
talk to me.

Speaker 8 (01:43:32):
Well, I'll tell you something. My eight year old son
about a month ago said to me, Dad, I wont
my own YouTube channel. He wants to do roadblocks programming.
He's eight on his YouTube eight years old.

Speaker 4 (01:43:49):
I get money with that.

Speaker 3 (01:43:50):
You know he'll make money doing that.

Speaker 8 (01:43:52):
No, I've got a better idea for him, actually, because
I came home and from a trip for one of
my many trips, and he said, Dad, we've got to
move into this house. I said, Johnny, that house is
not in Australia. It's a How about this house? I said, Well,
that isn't easy, but it's.

Speaker 4 (01:44:07):
A great house.

Speaker 8 (01:44:08):
And he was going through all of the rooms of
the house and telling me how fantastic was. So I
decided he should have a real estate channel. Who would
not watch an eight y old kid explaining the virtues
of a house.

Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
No, you're right now, they'll tell you, is all I loved.

Speaker 4 (01:44:22):
Howdy doty. Things have definitely changed. That's another thing. The
children of today. I mean, I have nieces and nephews
that they're just like, I don't know what they are.
They're robots, they're not kids anymore. We were happy, you know,

(01:44:42):
you could give us a cardboard box and we were
happy with it. We made it into a castle, a car,
a truck, a spaceship. I used to sit in cardboard
boxes and I was Flashborden.

Speaker 3 (01:44:56):
Wait, so everybody again, you guys. The website is Phoenix
Street six. We have four and a half minutes left.
So the instagram is Phoenix three sixty underscore net. So
who are some of your favorite artists?

Speaker 7 (01:45:08):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:45:08):
Did you think about trying to get like some of
the big artists.

Speaker 8 (01:45:11):
I'd say it's something interesting. A guy who used to
run Universal Music, the world's largest record company, when he
did wonderful guy called Rob Wells. He said to me, Alan,
you start breaking artists and you will be the platform.
So it's early days, but thanks to mister Velasko, mister
Alasko noticed a great band that had come to the

(01:45:35):
States from Indonesia and they were called VOB. And what
distinguished VOB is They were five foot sorry, four foot eleven,
I should say not five foot eleven, four foot eleven,
nineteen year old girls from Indonesia wearing hit jobs, wearing
the scarf, playing heavy metal. You don't see a lot
of hit job wearing heavy metal bands in the world.

(01:45:57):
But John noticed them. So we had them during our
Indonesia and our Jakarta launch. We had them. They went
on to pay Glastonbury. They were headlining in Glassbury, probably
the largest festival in the world in the UK. They've
now been featured on CNN, Forbes magazine, you know it.
So it's great when you take somebody from little village

(01:46:19):
in Indonesia and get them a bit of exposure and
it happened, right, Yes, so we hope to do a
lot of that. It's early days, but we hope to
do a lot of that because you know, most national
artistic endeavors are sort of in national silos, right, Very
rarely do you get exposed in the Indonesian artists in

(01:46:40):
the States or even in Australia, which is much closer
to Indonesia. Right, So being able to get a platform
where and now, what we're doing, as Miss Shapiro might
have told you, is every month, the last Wednesday of
the month right in New York, right at table and
stage in the.

Speaker 3 (01:46:59):
Fish industry, we need on stage, yes.

Speaker 8 (01:47:02):
Chelsea table on stage every last Wednesday, starting April of
the month. We're going to feature the best us from
around the world, right in some sort of competition, and
then the winner the competition is going to appear in
Times Square, but we're going to actually bring them to
New York and bands from around the world every month.
I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:47:23):
Listen, I'm looking at your last name. What does it
mean in German or Yiddish? Which is it Yiddish or German?

Speaker 8 (01:47:29):
It's Yiddish, it's what does it mean in Yenish? God
knows what it means. God knows what it means.

Speaker 4 (01:47:35):
But is clap is if you are in Yiddish, if
you're a clept right, so is it clap.

Speaker 8 (01:47:44):
Yes, I don't know. I don't know what it means
to Yiddish. But the funny thing is, as you might notice,
I'm not a Hastidic guy, right, but but it turns
out that my great grandfather was. He was the chief
Rabbi of Warsow. So one of the very interesting things is, right,
I bring these people from the music industry and I

(01:48:06):
have friends from the Cussidic industry or the Hussidic community
in New York, and they all meet to get I've
got some wonderful pictures of executives right from the Asian
music industry meeting with my Cussidic friends here. It's an
interesting world, interesting mixture.

Speaker 1 (01:48:22):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:48:22):
I think it's an interesting after. You're an interesting guy. Congratulations.
I think you're going to have a big hit again,
you guys. Phoenix three sixty underscore a net for an
Instagram Phoenix three sixty dot com. Go check it out.
So people, even though we haven't had a major launch
in the United States, yeah, people can actually start to
join the New York.

Speaker 8 (01:48:44):
Well it's here, but we're not launching. The reason we're
not launching very quickly is that we did something you
might say. It was similar to Spotify three or four
years before we went to launch at the annual music
industry in Cahn, right in France. On the day that
we were launching, or perhaps the day before, somebody they'll

(01:49:06):
remain unmentioned in the tech industry said you do this
and we're shutting down what was the main music platform
at the time. So so we learned the hard way.
It's not good to prod the big guys before you
have a bit of momentum. Somebody to call him momentum,
and we'll be here at the end of the year,
hopefully with plenty of momentum.

Speaker 4 (01:49:27):
I love it all right, We got to go because
Ante when you're when you're super super rich, and you're
going to be nice to me.

Speaker 8 (01:49:34):
If you meet me, I'm not only going to be
nice to you, I'm going to be extronized because you're
going to be even richer. Remember we're making your.

Speaker 4 (01:49:40):
Five fat you know, we both have to say, musk moveover,
there we go.

Speaker 8 (01:49:47):
You're being way too polite.

Speaker 4 (01:49:49):
Yeah, you're you're going to be the richest man in
the world. Right there. You go, all so much thankybody
know what, you're a pleasure and I feel like you're
my friend.

Speaker 8 (01:50:03):
You're so friendly, and I feel like you guys are
my friends.

Speaker 4 (01:50:07):
So if your sight is as friendly as you are,
we're all going to be happy to be on.

Speaker 8 (01:50:13):
What a sweet thing to say.

Speaker 3 (01:50:15):
Thank you very much, it's true, all right, Alan, thank
you so much.

Speaker 6 (01:50:19):
Bye bye bye.

Speaker 3 (01:50:21):
All right, everybody, thanks so much for tuning in.

Speaker 4 (01:50:23):
I love you. I can't wait to be on it.

Speaker 3 (01:50:26):
It's gonna be a great when you guys Phoenix Street
sixty dot com will see you guys next week. Have
a great weekend, everybody, Bye, bye bye. Gimme you don't.

Speaker 6 (01:50:43):
Every man thinking, well a week you have yet, that's great.
To Jimmy, we got myself to help me.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
Don't want to know you, Sims always, that's Jimmy. You'll
want to he to me stop so the people to
take you out, ujen sus

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