Larry Namer/Chris Patti

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:22):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Gimmet crazy, gave me, don't want to.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Pelt give me? Thank you?

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Hey, what's up everybody, and welcome to the Jimmy Star
Show with Ron Russell, bringing you the good times of music, fashion,
pop culture and entertainment. We have a fun show for
you guys today. It's going to be a good time.
Before we get started and tell you about it, let's
say hi to our cool, outrageous man about town co host,
mister Ron Russell.

Speaker 5 (01:21):
Yes, as you all know from weeks prior, I had
my need done in The pain was awful and I
was not permitted to take painkillers because of this thing
that happens to old people where we flip out and
we go into imaginary worlds. Excuse me, I went into
I was kidnapped by aliens in the hospital. Anyway, weeks

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and weeks of suffering without a painkiller, I said to Jimmy, screw,
give me a half a ofphing. I don't give a shit.
So I go back to the moon O Mars. I
don't care. So I took a half of a morphine
last night and I speed dialed Sophia Lauren and I
had the most wonderful conversation with Sophia Laurent. For hours.

(02:11):
We spoke and we had a good time. I don't
know Sophia Lauren. I don't have her phone number, and
I couldn't possibly have called her. It's my fantasy. So
I thought, if this is the only fantasy I have
when I take my morphine pill, I'll take another one tonight.
You know, maybe that I could talk to John Collins

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or somebody else. So it's really amazing how the mind
does things that we just understand. Why that pill puts
me in a situation where I really believe, I mean
I believe I spoke to Sophia Laurent. I could tell
you what she was wearing, what she looked like she

(02:55):
was maybe about sixty five years old at the time.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Beautiful.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
It's just beyond me. What happens? What is it called again? No,
what is my problem called?

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Well, that's that's from the post operative delirium.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
Post operative delirium sounds strange. I have so many people
calling me wanting to talk to me. It's not possible
because when I'm not working or not working. When I'm
not I'm not me. I'm not me. If you understand that,

(03:34):
I don't speak to people anymore, I can't. There's there's
no conversations that hold me. No matter what you talk about,
I want to hang up on you. I don't know
what that is all about.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Well, the fact that you're in pain and.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
Well, I don't know what it is. But I mean,
I interview people, so you know, I've interviewed people for
most of my life, so I'm used to that. I'm
used to talking to people. Conversation is my life. But
now I don't want conversation with anybody.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
That'll go away when you're feeling better.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
My very best friends in New York in California, I
mean dear people. They're dear to me, and I can't
say to them. Fuck off. Now, that's what I wanted
to say. That's what I want to say. Don't call me.
I'm not interested in hearing your bullshit. I'm not you know,
when i'm lomal, when I'm not in this predicament, I

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listen to people's problems. They talk about their health, their kids, this,
and you know, we all discuss problems, lives, lives. But
right now I am not in the mood. So don't
call me to tell me about your hospital stays, or
your tits fell off, or or your son ran off
with the uh homosexual. I mean, I don't want to

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hear it.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Anyway. He's doing much better, you guys. I'm doing well,
thanks everybody. I had my knee manipulated Thursday, the most
unbelievable pain that you can ever imagine. And I saw
a video of it on YouTube after I had it done,
which I'm glad. I didn't see the video where when
you actually hear you know, everything ripping and everything, and
so I'm glad. I just want to time.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
And you know, a knee is a knee, and what
credence do we give a knee? We don't even know
they're there, we take them for granted, I don't like mine.
If you play with their knee surgically, you will pay.
You will pay in the end because it's torture. It
is the most horrific, horrible pain I have ever had,

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and I certainly will never do the other leg. The
other leg could fall off for all I can.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Yeah, I won't be doing mine either, my left since
the one I got done.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
Oh, I'm never doing this shit again. I think I'm
going to go through these visits with the moon. The
Martians and Sophila are.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
In no if they were only Sophia or in dreams,
it might be a you know, I walk.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
Up Jimmy and I wasn't sure if I really had
the call or if I is dreaming. That's the funny
part about this drug. You can divide reality from I
never did drugs, folks, I swear all my kids, never
did drugs in my life. Never, because I'd never wanted

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to be not in control. So I don't know how
to be in control on drugs. Some people do. I
know people post relatives that could take that. They could
check the Adam bomb and they could function me. I
would be dead for months anyway. Lots of fun stuff

(06:36):
going on.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
We're gonna have a lot of announcements coming on soon,
lots of great film stuff going on. We're going to
be very busy in the next fifteen months. It looks
like maybe up to five movies we're gonna shoot in
the next fifteen months. So things are going really good.
And we have a great guess for you guys today.
So we have the founder of the entertainment television Larry

(06:59):
namercing on, who just wrote a brand new book. And
after that we have the founder of Indie Music TV,
Christopher Patty, coming on. Both will be coming on in
a little bit. Larry's coming on first. And before we
do that, let's do a couple other things we do.
Let's say hi to the chatroom. What's up, chat room,
it's starting to fill up, Ladylake, Thanks for everything. Stefan,

(07:20):
I hope you're doing well. Be Claudia, you can't join
us today, she says she's going to listen to the
replay because she's doing something in Germany. I forgot what
the heck she says she was doing. And we want
to tell everybody you can listen to us on all
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(07:43):
Google podcast Radio, Public tune in Amazon Prime and three
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you can listen or watch the show. Obviously, we're on
YouTube Live and the replay goes out as soon as
the show was over. We uploaded to the Jimmy Starstow
with Ron Russell YouTube Channe, I want to say congratulations
to the Horror World Final. Destination came out over the weekend.

(08:07):
It broke a hundred million dollars. It did really, really good.
There's a tribute in it at the end, you know,
a tribute for Tony Todd, who was a friend of
the show. He was on the show many times and
Ron and I knew him, a nice guy I liked
to and so there's a very nice tribute in it
at the end, you know that he does. And I'm
just glad that the horror community came out and supported

(08:28):
the film in general, because one hundred million dollars there
is a lot of money, you know, to.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
Do, and you know, the industry has lost quite a
few good people over the last six months. We lost
the tomato.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
It's the tomato we just lost.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
Michael Mahall people has passed away.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
From Mahall Brothers. They're the biggest craft funding people like
in the history on Indiegogo, And really.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
I really enjoy some of their movies. I thought there
was quality in their work. And I kept telling Michael
over and over for good, Michael, all you need is
forty million dollars and you will get an Academy award
because you have that talent. And I believed in Michael.
Michael had an eye for what's right and what's wrong.

(09:12):
He was good. And I liked Michael a lot, and
I will miss seeing him at the Red Conference. So Michael,
rest in peace, my friend travel well, you're in good company.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Absolutely, he was such a cool guy. It's all over Facebook,
It's all over everywhere.

Speaker 5 (09:28):
And everybody's upset about it in the industry.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Yeah, it's very sad. What else happened to us? Anything
else is listening. We didn't have to do a whole
lot because Ron still recuperating from his knee getting better
every day, and I.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
Was and he's not. They broke his now, so the
two crippled the We're both like my poor daughter Leslie.
She's like Nurse Ratchet. She runs back and forth from
the kitchen to the bedroom. Can I get you guys anything.
It's Jimmy and I laying there with all legs hanging out.
I mean it's a joke couple. Yeah, compared to who

(10:02):
we normally are on red carpets running all over. You know,
Jimmy and I we travel and now here we are
held up in bed with our legs. And every time
I know he's going to have an attack, he grabs
my hand and squeezes it and I hear Jimmy, And
then when I'm going to have a Charlie horse pain,

(10:23):
I grab his hand and go almost. Well, the two
of us sound like elephants or rhinos made him and
I'm not walking around.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
I gained seven pounds, so I don't want to like
gain weight.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
I wish I lost twenty pounds and I look like shit.
I want my twenty pounds back.

Speaker 6 (10:41):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
We also want to give a shout out to Marcel
whilst it was his birthday, I think yesterday, I'm not sure.
Director of Blind and Pretty Boy, which is coming out
next week for the public to be able to see,
which is the sequel to Blind and Blind is right
now on two being a bunch of different platforms, So
you guys should check it out watch next week.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
You know, I don't carry on about a movie much
because I'm not a fan of a lot of the
crap up that we make. But this is a quality movie.
This is a movie that was done so well. This
is a movie where Sarah French showed that you don't
have to do much to act. You know, in horror movies,

(11:22):
I find the directors don't tell the actors less less
is better or horror movies, they're hysterical. They're screaming, they're yelling,
they're out of control. When they're out of control, they're
out of focus, they're out of lighting, they're out of everything,
and it looks corny and cheesy and shitty. You must

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be in control when you're working, when you're in a movie.
You must know the lighting, the marks, and the dialogue.
You have to know all about it. And you don't
have time to go hysterical screaming for ten minutes with
your tits out. Of course, your tits have to be out.
I've never seen a horror woman scream yet without her

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tits bouncing. They love it. They pay three thousand dollars
for those chits, and I guess they're going to get
their money back because if you're if you show your
tits in a movie, you get five hundred bucks extra.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
The jump they call it a bump. Well they call
it a bump.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
Yeah, they'll call it a bump. And that's how you
pay for your chits. So you see, my friends, we
have a lot to learn yet in this horror demeanor.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
I like loving and we're gonna have red River getting
going sooner.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Red River.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
I really believe there's no tits in red River. We
don't have any.

Speaker 7 (12:39):
No, no, no no.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
I believe red River is going to be a quality movie.
That's why I'm cameoing in it. You know, Jennifer loves me,
and she says, Ron, You've got to put that handsome
face in my movie. I thought handsome. Well, I know
a handsome but I'll put my face in the movie.
I will do anything for Jen. I love Jen, and

(13:00):
I will be in that movie in a cameo role
short playing a scientist. But if I didn't think the
movie was a good script, and if it were not
going to be done well, I wouldn't be in it.
I'm not gonna cameo myself in the movie. That's a
piece of shit.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
I'll see you, guys. They're finishing Clown Motel three next
week in Las Vegas. They're shooting the final scenes. So
they're going to have a premiere for that. I think
in August ran Clown Motel three.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
August twenty third, if I'm not mistakes.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Sometime in August. So it'll be fun in Vegas. I'm
sure it'll be in la I hope it's going to be.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
How is in Laad.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Anyway? So that's what's going on, you guys. We got
some great guests. We're gonna go ahead and bring our
first guest on now. So let's bring him in one.

Speaker 7 (13:51):
I Hey, Larry, how you doing?

Speaker 4 (13:54):
And look at that? See we both got the big
glasses there he is.

Speaker 8 (13:58):
Well, he is all right, everybody now that we know
we can hear you, We want to welcome to the
Jimmy Stars Show with Ron Russell. You guys, founder of
the entertainment TV Networks now author of a new book
which we're going to talk about Larry Nahravlow and welcome
to the show.

Speaker 7 (14:14):
Great thanks for having me here, guys.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
A long time. We haven't seen you in a long time.
You already know Ron, so I don't have to introduce him.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
Larry is my hero. Oh, Larry knows the story that's
coming up. I have a photograph of a chick, a
woman that he brought to su Wangs party that I
have never gotten over yet. And I'm gay. Yes, woman
had s tit's face, had legs, fingers, toes, dipples, everything magnificent.

(14:45):
I have never to date seen a woman as sexy
and as beautiful, and she was all over Larry. So
I said to you, I said, either he's got an
eleven inch dick or a lot of money. But there's
something about him that this girl's crazy about what ever
happened to Hilary.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
He doesn't know which one you're talking about.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
To so many.

Speaker 7 (15:11):
I remember his reaction to her. Uh, she's actually living
in Hawaii now and and stuff. But you know, I
like it, not for the money or anything else. I
think it's my Brooklyn charm that you know attracts him.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
But here she was something. I mean, you got admit
she was something else.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
And they're both from Brooklyn.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
Yeah yeah, jew from Brooklyn like me. But it was
something else that your holy I'm gay, and I got upset.

Speaker 7 (15:42):
Could you imagine he was actually the gal? She was
in Pirate Gribon and she was the one if you
remember the scandal where Johnny Depp got caught cheating on
his wife. Oh, I mean, oh, I.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Didn't pay attention because you're always with pretty women anytime
we ever see you. And actually the very first time
we met you you probably won't even remember. We were
at the very one of the very first red carpets
when we moved here from from the East Coast. He
was an Infolist party and it was where Gramin's Chinese theater,
like in a building upstairs, and we were in the
VIP room talking to Adrian Wilkinson from whatever that shows

(16:22):
Lucy Lawless or whatever and the Xena Xena word. And
you walked in and she started talking to you, and
then all the women in the room, all the beautiful
women were in the VIP room, and all of them
okay running over to talk to you, And I was.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
Like, who is this guy? I think that Larry has
good PR and I think he's told his PR people
to squeeze out a rumor that he's hung like a monkey.
And that he's the best thing in bed that a
woman will ever have, and they sort of spread that
around Hollywood, you know, so everybody tooks. So when the

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women look at him, they say, oh, I heard he's
hung like a horse and he said best ball you'll
ever have. And the women say, oh, really, I got
to find out. So I think you're you're very underhanded.

Speaker 7 (17:09):
I wish it was that easy. You know. It's kind
of funny that you mentioned the PR thing because my
I've had the same PR person for thirty years now,
and she cracks up laughing because I pay her to
keep me out of the press. She goes everybody pays
me because of the magazine cover. You pay me to
make sure you never get a magazine cover.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
Right, But you are you? Every time I see you,
you're with another phenomenal woman. Where do you find I
just walk around looking for them in them all or something?

Speaker 7 (17:42):
Pretty much? That's it.

Speaker 5 (17:43):
Yeah, it's amazing how you have life, all right. So,
I mean, let's face it, you're no great beauty.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
You know, you're not Robert Rencher, Robert Reference not a
great beauty. I think you've the glass.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
You're a good looking guy. But I wouldn't you know,
I wouldn't go crazy over it. So you've got something
that I got to find out what it is. Meanwhile,
I love your posts. I always like them. The stuffed
auto chokes, are they not delicious?

Speaker 7 (18:15):
Ah? It's amazing, you know. And it's funny because you know,
last year I planted two uto choke plants, and I
got one Arto choke on each plants. I had two
water jokes for the whole season. I said, this year,
I'm going to plant five plants. So for whatever reason,
each plant now has five Arto jokes on it. So
I got five plants and twenty five Arto jokes. And

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I'm like, look for nowcipes because I can't eat the
stuff ones every night.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
Well, he put a recipe up. I mean, I know,
I've had auto chokes all my life. It's an Italian thing.
But the best auto chokes come from Africa. You can
get African auto chokes. You've got some really good auto chokes.
And if you stuff them correctly and do it correctly
where they're not too dry or too oil, you've got
a meal man that is out of this squirrel.

Speaker 7 (19:03):
Right. Oh, I gets.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Anyway, because for people who don't even know what you're
talking about. So you guys, Larry Namer he's on social media,
but he's on his Facebook page every day he posts
whatever he cooks, and it's always very gourmet looking and
it looks delicious.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
Sometimes you want to vomit. We eat some of the
weirdest ship there is out there. I mean, are some
of your stuff is weird? I wouldn't need it. You
have to admit you go for the really super gourmet.
You're into the super team.

Speaker 7 (19:37):
I'm obsessed with the cooking, that's for sure.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
I love all of your rents.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
So actually, though, why did you start? Did you have
you always cooked? Because when we first met you you
were heavier and then you lost a lot of weight,
which somehow I assure.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
You're going out with all those women those ways.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
I attributed it to your cooking.

Speaker 7 (19:54):
I Uh, I started went twelve because you know, I
grew up in Brooklyn, you know, and Brondo's where, you know,
the neighborhood I grew up and it was kind of
the hood still is the hood actor in and both
my mother and father were and yeah, I was twelve
years old. So my choice was either learning how to

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cook or eating dinner every night. Yes, and so I
started cooking and I left it. And then I realized
I was good at that cook and my mom was,
so I just started taking over the cooking for the family,
and you know, and then I was just quite cooks
and learned. And then when I got in college, I

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by total chance, I ended up with Doubin and Chinese
restaurant the kitchen, and then I'm from After two years,
I moved to an Italian restaurant in over Manhattan and
cooked Italian for two years. You learn the basics of
cooking anything. It's very easy to start to pick up

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all the new stuff.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
I like, love it. I like love it. I wouldn't
need a lot of the stuff you eat, just because
like I'm like total like American meat and potatoes.

Speaker 5 (21:08):
And I've had some experiences up at Sue Wang's house.
I was in the kitchen with Sue and I had
my little dog with me, and she walked by and
she said, you know, in China, we ate them, and
I almost died that little dog that we just just
show them in my little dog, my little asstro I
almost died. I wanted to either vomit or hit her.

Speaker 9 (21:30):
I don't know what I wanted to.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
Do, and she made we eat from me.

Speaker 7 (21:37):
There is there is a place like one area of
China where they still do eat everything, including the dogs
and stuff. But it's really more of a Korean thing,
the Chinese thing, other than just the small areas and
China have.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
So so you grew up in Coney Island and then
I'm like loosely red had a bunch of biographies of
you online just to get an idea. I kind of
knew a lot of it already, but basically.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
Chase still, of course, does you love it? I love
steeple My heart used to beat so hot when I
saw that man smiling, the Steeple Chase guy, because I
know in two minutes we'd be on the rights.

Speaker 7 (22:23):
So yeah, I'll get a little bit of trivia on
So the base on steeple Chases, it's a guy named
George C. Till You and he was the one who
started people that he may remember the Till You movie
theater in Coney Island, which is one of the big
grand theaters. But I always loved playing and I then

(22:44):
I ended up hiring an artist to look at the
picture that was on steeple Chase and then paint and
original painting of that face, and then I registered the face,
so I actually own that face. Now, oh no, that interesting.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
What are you going to do with it?

Speaker 7 (23:02):
I you know, I used it. I had a company
that was doing a lot of We were the big
consultants to Microsoft, so we had to set up a
separate company. So I'm We named the company Steeple Chase Media,
and the face was the logo of the company. And yeah,
people say to me, to Larry, why are you using
such an ugly face? And you know, I think you

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get it more.

Speaker 5 (23:25):
Than or three?

Speaker 7 (23:27):
What was.

Speaker 5 (23:29):
In Coney Island? What was your favorite ride?

Speaker 7 (23:34):
Probably maybe the Thunderbolt or the Cyclone?

Speaker 4 (23:40):
I can't do any of them. What the Thunderbolt or
the Cyclone?

Speaker 5 (23:44):
No, no worry.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
I get sick, so I can't do anything.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
I went on the Cyclone once and I wish I
was dead.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
Did you go to Coney Island a lot when you
were little?

Speaker 9 (23:56):
What?

Speaker 5 (23:56):
You from Brooklyn? Doesn't live there? You kidding? But where
do you think we eight? We had the best condition,
best ever. You can't beat a Nathan's Hebra or Hebro
national Are you out of your mind? But they don't
make it like. I don't know what they did to
the sour krowd. They might beat they peed you or something,

(24:17):
but that sour crowd was today. Have ever had saur
kraut like the sour krout?

Speaker 7 (24:25):
Yeah, now it's a it's a great you know, it's
now more a little more of a fast food. It's
in the frenchise are still the same. They're amazing, So.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
I like love it. So wait, so you worked as
a chef. Did you work as a chef the same
time as you worked as a cable splicer?

Speaker 7 (24:44):
No, I when I was in college, I took a job.
I mean I took a job in delivering food for
a Chinese restaurant in Brooklyn. And or to do that,
you know, everybody don't particularly the order, and you know
you get taken out. And so yeah, I work in
the kitchen. But because I love to cook, I would

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always teach me how to cook this and teach me
how to cook that. And you know, they just got
the biggest kick out of teaching no Caucasian kid how
to cook Chinese food. And they saw that I was
pretty good and at in diligent and then there was
they were having a big Chinese New Year party and
it was February and there was a snowstorm and three

(25:27):
of the chefs couldn't make it into work, and the
head chef just looked at me and went, you know, hey,
you got to cook. And I was like, yeah, sure,
I'll do that. And so I ended up cooking in
a Chinese restaurant for two years. And then I said, okay,
I kind of got this. So I found an Italian
restaurant down by Wall Street area, and I took a

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job cooking in Italian for two years, and then I
got out of college. I ended up getting a job
as a cables as an assistant cablesplice.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
In the sewers it said online and in the sewers
under Manhattan or something. That's a big jump, And I mean,
good for you, congratulations to go from the snewer to
life where he entertainment television. When I'm talking, I.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
Know you're talking, but you're going away from where we are. No, yeah,
I want to bring it back to where we should be.
For those of you out there who don't know who
this man is, let him introduce his credentials.

Speaker 7 (26:24):
Larry So probably in the country, I'm better known as
the boundary of e So you know, he is still
the only TV network on a global scale that's been
started by a person as opposed to a big media company.
I mean, most TV networks are started by Box of

(26:46):
Disney or somebody like that, but he was actually started
by me and my friend Allen from New Jersey, and
to this day it still remains the only TV network
start by people as opposed to media companies. And you know,
we started with very little money compared to what was needed,
but it grew, you know, and it grew in a month.

(27:07):
So we started the company with eleven employers and thirty
one interns and in two years we were up to
eleven hundred employees, which is kind of nuts growth curve there.
He is one hundred forty countries now, valuation is somewhere
around seven billion, seven billions, you know, and arguably the

(27:33):
biggest influencer of pop culture in the world. I mean,
all you got to do is look at what we
did for Howard Stern and Seacress and the Kardashians, and
you know those are all as.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
So a little jew boy from Conea Island. Look where
he went, Look what he's upchained, and look what he's created.
My heart's off to you.

Speaker 7 (27:57):
Yeah, And then you know, well, I I fell in
love with doing stuff far and so I started a
media company in Russia and we started a big charitable
concert festival there called the White Knights Festival, where we
raised one hundred percent of the budget for the Children's
House and the Orphanage, which obviously that doesn't exist anymore

(28:19):
with the war going on. And I had the number
one TV show and I figured they have enough troubles,
I'd give them soap operas take their mind off their troubles.
We had a big TV show there for bill eleven years,
ten ten plus years, five nights a week. It was
the number one TV show. It was crazy, crazy popular.

(28:42):
And I kind of went off and found China, and
I started doing stuff in China, and we showed to
this day where I think we're still the only America
company they operate as a media company in China. And
we produced only stuff in China for China in Maryland,
which is kind of a trick producing stuff in the

(29:03):
language you don't necessarily speak, but we've done. We've done
quite well, and we've been into that market for quite
a while.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
So let's also Brad, so go back to the entertainment television.
So for anybody listening, and I don't know anybody he is,
but you guys, that's the Howard Sterns show, Fashion Police
was on there, talk soup, the Kardashians. I mean those
are like because the Kardashians, even though I've never seen
one of their shows, I know it's like a huge
you know, it's a huge deal and they got hundreds
of millions of followers in social media, so it's a

(29:35):
big deal. I also wrote that you basically also did
something with Greg Kanee. What did Greg Knear do?

Speaker 7 (29:41):
Greg kan Greg Canare was the first host that was
ever on the air and meet when we went on.
He was the one opened up the channel. And then
Greg was the first host to talk soup.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
I didn't know that. I didn't actually know that because
he's such a big actor, so I just didn't. I
didn't so siate the two together. That's cool, Well, we were.

Speaker 7 (30:03):
We were the first job Greg ever got show biz.
Greg was It was funny because he was a marketing
assistant for a budget monster movie company in Hollywood and
I was pitching that company to advertise and I was
the meeting day and his boss didn't show up, so

(30:23):
I had to talk to him, and he kept just going, oh,
this is really good. I want to be a host.
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, of course everybody wants to be.
But he you know, I gave him the woman's name
who was doing the auditions, and he went for his
audition and uh, you know, and I just told the
whim and lean. I said, look, this guy's coming in.
I'm trying to sell advertising to his company. I said,

(30:45):
you know, if he's I don't care if he even
I'm filming the camera. I'm just being honest him. And
you know, he came in and you know, she was.
People don't realize because they say, oh, you were so lucky.
I had all those great hosts. I mean we had
Greg Kaneer and Julie Moran went on to do Entertainment Tonight,

(31:07):
and when I went on to do Lifestyles of a
Rich and Famous, and Mark de Carlo went on to
do Studs and on and on and on. So people say,
you were looking to get those hosts, but I don't realize.
Because we had no money. We realized that the most
important thing we could do is pick the hosts, so
that you we lomer, but you had to feel something.
So to get the first five hosts, we put seventy

(31:30):
two hundred people on tape. And so when Greg came
in for his interview, Ileen kept coming in and saying, Liarry,
that guy wants to say hello to you. On going,
I lean, I'm trying to figure out how to make
payroll part. And she comes in says, well, he's really
insisting that he comes and say hello. And I'm like,
I leant out of my office, you know, I came

(31:52):
with now. And then finally she just came in and said, look,
you got to come in the studio. And by this
time we had over five thousand people on tape and
we hadn't had one hope yet that we like. And
I just went in the studio and chequed Greg and
he just I just looked up and went, holy sh
the kid. He lit up the camera and I just

(32:14):
looked at it. I mean, I said, hire that one.
And I walked out and Greg was the first time.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
There we go Okay, so I love it.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
Okay, So now let's talk about your book.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
Sure, tell him the title first.

Speaker 7 (32:34):
The title of the book called off Script to piece
for success and never followed the crowd, And it really is.
People have been after kind of my memoir thing for
quite a while and I've always refused to do it.
And I said, you know what, I don't want to
do it because I'm not read the last chapter yet.

(32:56):
I'm still going. I think my best stuff is still
ahead of me. And so I refused. But then fifteen
months ago, my daughter had a baby. Yes, I've got
a little.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
It's a beautiful God bless a beautiful girl.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
Boy, it's a boy.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
It's a boy, boy, boy, your what is a beautiful girl? Yes?

Speaker 7 (33:20):
And you know my kids, you know I've got three,
and you know my older two live out here in California,
and you know my son is like his mom. You
know his mom's you know, we're not together, but you know,
twelve years of Catholic school, never told a lie, and
you know, John is exactly like my daughter. On the

(33:41):
other hand, is more like me. She's a little wise asci.
That's kind of got it all figured out. So I said,
the last thing in the world I want is from
my grand to learn about me from my daughter. So
I said, book read it himself. So that was kind
of what was behind the book. But the thing the
usual about the book. You really you can break my

(34:02):
life up into like eight different segments, you know, growing
up in Brooklyn years, my Manhattan gas, my Los Angeles
Cable years, my years, my Russia years, my China years,
you know, And so I I wrote was little anecdotes
stories that happened during each of those phases, match the

(34:22):
recipes that inspired me. So the book is memo in
the cookbook.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
Oh so when it says recipes for success, it's recipes
for success with actual recipes.

Speaker 7 (34:33):
Oh yeah, with recipes and stories. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Oh that's very clever.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
You know, don't do you don't follow him on Facebook?

Speaker 4 (34:41):
I too, but I don't like it's the only seas.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
I look at everything. Like I said, sometimes I'm drooling.
I want to eat it. And sometimes I say, oh, Larry,
how can you eat that spider or whatever? It was
some weird ship. But I followed, well, well you know,
I follow you, Larry.

Speaker 7 (35:02):
Yeah, of course, yeah, no, the one that hang I'm glad.
There were just a lot of stories that I didn't
because I wanted to keep some of my friends, you know,
so I didn't want to kill him in the book,
but you know, one of the stories that people love
the most in which I thought okay to tell because
it was the story about how we first met O J. Simpson,

(35:24):
and you know, o J passed away, so I felt
that I could do. It's a very funny story because
my partner Alan went out with an actress in Hollywood
just so ended up being OJ's mistress, and they found
out and got very upset. Was writing to beat Alan
over a baseball bat. And so anyway, I called him

(35:46):
up in a book, kid, you know, I could just
call him up and say, listen, you know you're going
to beat him. I'm going to beat you.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
You know.

Speaker 7 (35:52):
We go through the whole you know thing, and then
antally we realized that Alan and I are actually, yeah,
excuse me, friends with Blake Olson, whose dad is the
chairman of of Hertz and that was OJ's big client.
You know, J was doing those ads and running through

(36:12):
the airports. And so when OJ found out that we
knew Blake, he uh, all of a sudden got very
apologetic and going no, no, no, you know, let's forget
about that girl, you know, and let's have lunch. So
in the book, I have this story about how Alan
and I first met oj and it's matched with the
recipe and what I ate at a lunch. We're we

(36:33):
at Scalbot, Beverly Hills, and I have the recipe with
the salad that I ate, and.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
You put it in the book, in the book, and
you won't around, you won't get in trouble for writing.
You know they have people have Uh was it? I
guess what's the word? I'm looking for? Marks ones? Did

(37:00):
you know that certain people like stars if they have
a recipe, they have a trademark. You can't duplicate it.

Speaker 7 (37:09):
Well, this is from the scholar of Beverly Hills, and
you know.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
You know how nitpicky they could get to Beverly Hills.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
So how big is the book? How thick is the book?
How many pages?

Speaker 7 (37:22):
It's like one hundred and sixty pages or so. That's yeah, yeah,
it's right. Hit the best sellow.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
I hope you wrote.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
I'm sorry, let them finish. Go ahead and hit the
best sellers. It's on Amazon to guys. The name of
the book again is Offscript Recipes for Success by Larry Jynamar.
If you're looking for it on Amazon, Just to make
sure I know it's on Amazon, it's probably other places.
One hundred and sixty pages, which is a perfect length
because it's not too big that people.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
Yeah, it's fair. It's airplane reading. I call I hope.
You wrote about the early days in Brooklyn, the sweet
day of us living in the street. How we didn't
need computers, if we didn't need video games. What we
needed was a can and a string, or a beat

(38:17):
and a ball, and we were happy people. The sweetest
days of my life were in the streets of Brooklyn. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (38:26):
And you know when you know, particularly in the summer,
you used to go out at eight o'clock in the
morning to play with your friends, and your mother would
call you home at seven o'clock at night to come
home for dinner. And you just played with your friends
all day long and played punch bowl in the street
and stuff. And you're lucky if we didn't get hit by.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
Car crackers on a curb. Yeah, oh yeah, that was
my favorite. But my mother would say, come home with
the street light storm.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Yeah, that's what we had to do, and that's.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
What we did the minute those street fight went on. Oh,
I got it.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
So I read before you started ETV that you something
happened with the cable company. But you didn't want to
move back to New York because you don't want to
go back to the winter, so you don't like the
winner in the snow.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
Yeah, yeah, yes.

Speaker 7 (39:17):
The company that brought me out to California was a
Canadian company. They were from Toronto. And yeah, because I
worked in Manhattan. Manhattan table system had to be built
all under the streets. But when big cities began a
franchise cable, they didn't want the wires to go on
telephone poles because it's on side, so they all wanted
it to go underground. Well, I was like the only

(39:39):
one around who knew how you build underground cable systems.
So I got recruited them out to LA and I
didn't want the job.

Speaker 5 (39:48):
You know.

Speaker 7 (39:48):
I was like telling them, I go, look, I'll come
out there and do the interview and have a vacation,
but there's no way I'm taking the job. So I
was just like being an ass And after the interview,
the guy said, well, you know what would it take
be to move out here? So I named like four
times what I make in New York and it was

(40:08):
just at that time, it's a funny store Liberachi had
moved from La to Las Vegas and his house was
up for rent. I said, I want you to rent
Liberaci's house for me, and I want a car with
a mobile phone. And uh, they said, you're out of
your mind, and I went exactly. I said, I gold you,
I'm not taking the job. And I went back to
New York. Then two weeks later they called back and said, well,

(40:32):
you asked for It was ridiculous, but okay, and I go, okay,
what's house And they rented me Liberarti's house with the
piano shaped swimming pool.

Speaker 5 (40:47):
Which house was.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
Out the one want the piano shaped swimming pool.

Speaker 7 (40:50):
The one termino, the one that was on the front
of the Opening of the Night for many years.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
Yeah, there's here's here two houses here in pop Spring.

Speaker 5 (41:01):
I used to hang out in the one house a
very good friend of our sport Liberaci's house. And the
sad thing was the garage they Liberaci had converted into
a den and that's where he passed. He passed away
into den in the garage. Oh wow, yeah, okay, so
all that's pay and money. He died in the garage.

(41:24):
So that's how we never.

Speaker 7 (41:26):
Know where we're going to end up do it, that's
for sure.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
So on top of the book, because I read the
I leaned in an interview with you, I read it
you also are somehow behind maybe producing an actual podcast
called Stall Talk, Real Women, Real Wisdom, Real Talk. And
the story about that is kind of interesting about you know,
women always going to the restroom. Tell us a little

(41:52):
bit about the podcast.

Speaker 7 (41:54):
So you know, I have a lot of women friends
in here, and they kept saying, Larry, you know when
you got to help us. We need to develop something
where we have a little bit more of a voice
and media, and you know, podcasting has come along and
there's notion entry into podcasting. So I've always been fascinated
with this phenomenon. You go out to dinner with a

(42:16):
few couples, woman, I got to go to the restroom
and they all get up and go, and the guys
are sitting there going where are they for fifteen minutes?
What are they doing? What do they talk about?

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Them?

Speaker 7 (42:26):
But it really is it's almost a metaphor for this
camaraderie that I think women share that as men, we
don't share it and we don't know it. I mean
we'll talk to each other about our favorite sports team,
or about business. But we don't generally talk to each
other about feeling our clothes and all of that stuff.

(42:46):
So I developed soul Talk. So it's women are four
different generations, and I'll examine any kind of issue bent
or relationships or the latest in clothes or cosmetics. And
but it again chose this underlying roderie that I think
women have and stuff. So you know, you'll probably remember

(43:07):
my my boomer The oldest one is har Jenny Lee.
You might remember she was the one who replaces in
somers on three.

Speaker 9 (43:17):
Yes. And then I.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
Think the whole the coolest thing is stall Talk, Like,
what a great title for a show. I went on
YouTube and I watched part of one of the episodes
on YouTube. You guys, you can go on YouTube and
hit hit uh. Just google stall Talk in the in
the search and it'll come up. There's a bunch of
shows up there, which.

Speaker 5 (43:40):
Brings me to do you know Georgiana Heller? Georgiana Heller No.

Speaker 7 (43:45):
I okay. Now, she's a.

Speaker 5 (43:48):
Big, big, big producer, big producer, and she decided to
do a play in Central Parks, Towie, and you had
to pay her, you had to Its called the toilet.
You had to pay thirty five dollars to go and
the toilet, stand against the wall and watch the plate.

(44:10):
It's about a hooker who goes in the men's room
to change and is raped. Well, it was such a
success that they built toilets on wheels and went all
over the country with this plate. There was a sensational hit.
No one had ever seen it anything quite like it.
But that's my buddy, Georgiana. She's just an incredible producer.

(44:33):
But if ever it floats around toilet, go see it.
It was wonderful. Oh no, it was really wonderful. It
was terrific.

Speaker 7 (44:41):
It's amazing. Yeah, and now, Yeah, a lot of opportunity
to do a lot of new stuffs now because technology
allows it to happen. Where we borrow may have been
cost prohibited.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
Which I want to talk about technology for a second,
but before we do that, because I know that you
also working with Richie rich On Richarrette. You guys, Richie
rich was on the show he used to have, Yes,
he used to have a show, a clothing line. I
used to be a clothing designer.

Speaker 5 (45:10):
I love him.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
Many many years ago, I was a clothing designer and
so I knew who he was because of that. And
I did a lot of costume design for movies and
tress Madonna and all kinds of people. And so when
I first met Richie Rich, I was super excited just
because we did the same thing. And so now he
sold heatheret and he's got a new new line called Richarrette.
And you're somehow involved with all of that. So how

(45:32):
is Richie rich and how's Richarrette? And we said, Hi.

Speaker 5 (45:37):
When you say Ron Russell sends his love, I love it.

Speaker 7 (45:42):
I will do that. I literally just him two days ago,
and we talked all the time. Richie is he's back.
He's for the most part, he's got a little he's
got to throw my arm in Pennsylvania. So he's he's
designing the new line of Richarette line. And you know,

(46:03):
he's back in, you know, doing what he loves boast,
which is design clothes. He actually just finished for New
York Fashion Week. He did a really really good show.
He was commissioned by care Bears. You remember the care.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
Yes toys too, ago.

Speaker 7 (46:21):
I mean, besides dressing Madonna and Lady Gaga and Katy
Perry and all those, Richie did a lot of the
clothing line for if you remember the little lunchboxes and
stuff like that, that was all Richie, and now care
Bears has commissioned to do a lot of kind of
fun clothes. So Richie's busy doing that. And you know,

(46:44):
I invested a little bit in the company and stuff,
and you know, over he's this iconic figure. He's one
of the nicest human beings in the world. I love him. Yeah,
he's actually in New York City now. He's said he's
going to stay through June because he's doing a bunch

(47:04):
of stuff a park and you know, she's doing a
big fashion show for Pride Weed there and he's got
a bunch of other events. He's there in New York
through the end of June.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
I love it. So please send our best to him
because we love him to death.

Speaker 5 (47:20):
And what I love about him is his attitude. I
don't give a ship. I am who I am, and
this is what I do, and love me, you'll leave me.
And that's all of rich And that's why he's so wonderful. Truly, really,
he's the truest person I know who's true to himself.

Speaker 7 (47:40):
Richie's the one of a lot revolutionized the you know,
the fashion shows. Well, Richie would do his fashion shows
and you know it would always be the highest six
foot tall than he skinned models. Richie was no I
want real people. Richie was the first one to put
real people on the right. You go to a Richie

(48:00):
fashion show. I describe a Richie show as kind of
the circus on steroids. The last show he had a minute,
he had a woman in a wheelchair, he had a
model coming down the runway with smoking a cigarette. I
mean it's just so far hour and stuff, and the
fashion is just amazing, and you know, and Richie show.

(48:22):
Richie shows are probably the most part of any fashion
shows you could go to.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
I know absolutely, I used to watch them all the time.
And uh and he's also one of the first people
to use kind of like really famous people, you know,
like Parasiltan back in the day when the people didn't
really know Paras Siltan and Tara Reid and all those people.
You know, they were all walking the runways for Richie
rich Yeah.

Speaker 7 (48:44):
They yeah, so yeah, the ri Richie's dressed everybody. And
you know a lot of what you see out there
now is really that Richie started and kind of made
ma you know, the mainstream fashion WORLDW yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
I love it. Okay, So let's go to technology for
a minute, because I know you do a lot with
technology and you're considered like the I don't know, basically
like entertainment technology authority. But what do you think about
everything that's going on with like AI? How AI is
being used and and if you don't jump on the board,

(49:21):
you're going to be left behind.

Speaker 7 (49:24):
That's absolutely true. AI is here to say whether you
like it or not. All you got to do is
that you know, when digital music came about music industry,
a mass said we're never going to allow this. Well
you know, and now they've been on not to buy
an iTunes controller industry and I said, that's basically because
you spent ten years fighting instead of just saying how

(49:46):
do we play part at nerold. I mean, you look
at technology and I go through this for people all
the time. You know, if you go back one hundred
and twenty years, used to be a country, basically we
had a lot of horse ranchers, and the horse ranchers
were totally upset when Mboard created a car the combustion

(50:08):
you know, with an engine, and they were like Oh,
this is terrible. We're never going to let it happen
with people driving horse and buggies and not cars and stuff.
And I just take people over the window. I go
look out the window. Tell me how many courss, so
many horse and buggies. You see, it's going to happen.
There's so much good that you could do with AI.

(50:30):
But the problem that everybody's having is they don't understand it,
and particularly our government, our legislators don't really understand it.
So there's no laws, regulations that's bad people from doing
bad things right with it, And that's a big issue.
But there is a lot of good and I'll in
a second we look at it again. Something simple and

(50:52):
I like bring it down to very simple terms. If
a twelve year old kid is I want to drive
a car, they can't do it because you've got to
be a certain age to drive the car, you got
to take drugs education, you got to take a test
the license to drive the car, and then if you
don't obey the rules of the road, there are penalties

(51:15):
for that. Right now, there are no regulations for AI
and there's no penalties for bad people doing bad things.
So yeah, so you got a lot of that, but
you know simple thing. And you know I work a
lot with the Writer's Guild, who were people in the
Writer's Guild with writers over fifty who were age discriminated
about teaching them how to use it. Chri's a great storytellers.

(51:37):
They just need to understand the technology. But if you
were to say, Larry, could you design a team network
plan about you know anything, a Hollywood sign behind you,
It would normally take me day do the research, to
write it up, to do a PowerPoint, to do estimated

(51:59):
budgets and stuff like that. So five days would be
there now with AI. And I've been using AI since
it's first, even before it first came out. Quickly, it's
me thirty seconds to do what used to take me
five days. Now I have to spend an hour cleaning
it up because it's never perfect. But now one hour

(52:21):
I'm getting done what you usould take five days. And
I say to people, the most valuable thing we all
have on this playing planet is limited. The most valuable
thing we have is our time and how we use
it and stuff. I said. So now I've regained five
of my life where I could either do more of

(52:42):
these and make more money. Now I have more time
to spend with my little grand kid. I could have
to speak Spanish, I could go on a safari. How
do you not love that? Now? There got to be
rules that control it and stuff so bad people can't
do bad things with it. But just as a tool,
it's a tool. It's just the you know, caveman use

(53:04):
to paint on the wall of caves when like you know,
animal blood and then something invented canvas and oil pain.
It's just another tool to precice.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
You're right, So I don't know how to do a
whole lot of things with it. Yeah, but I'm learning
every day. I do a little bit more. But like,
just as an easy example, it's like I make movie posters,
you know, uh, through different AI programs that I normally
would have had to pay five hundred and to seven
hundred and fifty dollars to get done, and I can

(53:36):
do it by myself in twenty minutes.

Speaker 7 (53:39):
Yep, Yeah, very simple.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
But but it's I mean, it's saving a ton of
money in it lets me be creative because I actually
get total creative control of what I wanted to look like.

Speaker 7 (53:50):
Yeah. No, when I you know, and when I did
the book. You know, the book is out now, it's
almost three months, I think, and I use an AI
program designed the marketing campaign for the book, and it
did it said, okay, post this message on this way.
It literally just laid out the whole thing for me,
and I followed it to the tea and in four

(54:13):
days the book was a best seller. And people I
know that are authors there, like there's something how did
you do it? How could it be a bestseller in
just four days? And da da da, and you know
it's of course, the AI program understands the algorithms and
the intricacies of marketing via social media and designed the
whole campaign for me, including the posters and all of that,

(54:34):
and literally in four days we were a best seller. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
See that's just amazing, Like I think.

Speaker 5 (54:39):
That gets you being sort of four days.

Speaker 4 (54:42):
Yeah, it's super amazing. And I've done that too for
marketing campaigns for films and film distribution and stuff, and
it's working terrific. But I need to learn more, Like,
so how did you learn all about it? Did you
like take classes for the AI stuff or did you
just start reading or how did you actually because there's
so many different things to learn.

Speaker 7 (55:00):
Yeah, well, I go on, I think probably separates me
from most of the folks that come out of Hollywood.
So you know, I consider myself a creative, you know,
but my degree is in economics, So I'm a creative
who knows how to read a balance sheet. But then
some years ago, it's actually chosen by this guy named

(55:25):
Bill Gates you might have heard of him, Yeah, and
still needed someone to help him think through the strategy
for Microsoft who understood how the media game has played
at the highest level. So I was just a prime
American insult of the Microsoft strategy for two and a
half years, and so I learned a lot about technolo

(55:46):
more than any human beings should understand that technology. So
you know, I kind of added that understanding my thing.
And when I saw the AI stuff first come out,
I said, there's nothing revolutionizes the business literally in every way.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
I like love it. I'm gonna just I just keep
moving for every every day, I try to to spend
like a half an hour learning something new that will
benefit me as I'm going along, just because I know,
if you don't get on the bandwagon, you're totally you know,
you're totally screwed.

Speaker 5 (56:18):
As for me, I have no idea what you're talking about.
I'm learning how to use my cell phone and I'll
be eighty five next week. So I don't think. I
don't think I need to have this.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
I have it, this knowledge.

Speaker 5 (56:35):
It's not necessary to force it in my little brains.

Speaker 7 (56:43):
I'll give you another example of how technology is changing
the world. So I'm working with the gal. There's yeah,
it came, and there's no women in late night television
in this country. Cool guys, and it's the same show.
The guy sitting behind a desk and he's got a
couch and so Tom Cruise, tell me about your next movie.
Boring stuff, and they can't forgue out why the rings

(57:06):
are down to almost zero. But you know I can,
I can elim them. So I found this gal. She's
from the UK. Eight years ago, she was a homeless
singing other on the streets of London. Okay, eight years later,
she's living in bel Air. She's life coaching will I Am,

(57:27):
Steveoki and all these major celebrities, and for life coaching,
she gets about ten thousand dollars a month from a client. Crazy,
but you know, how much of that personalized stuff could
you do? You're limited because you know, if you've got
an hour session, you only have certain number hours of
the day. So because she has she has so much

(57:49):
video out there from podcasts and interviews and ted Talks,
we've actually created a digital twin of Natasha. So starting
in the end of you and You're gonna be able
to instead of paying ten thousand a month ten dollars
a month, you could actually have the digital version of
Natasha become your love coach.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
See that's cool.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
I have a years ago Josha. The board is laying
on her back.

Speaker 4 (58:19):
No, we have a client, Howard Bloone who's like a
scientist and he's got a digital doppel gang or where
you can go and talk to his doppelgang or whatever.
And it's a new thing he just started doing. And
the guy we have coming on next has a digital artist,
like a very successful digital AI digital artist called what's
your name? Her name is Siphia and uh and he's

(58:43):
like an innovator with the AI technology in the music industry.
And so he's coming on after you, and so I.

Speaker 5 (58:50):
Will be totally lost.

Speaker 4 (58:55):
Usually we don't have all these brainiact people, but it's
a lot of fun. So all right, So let's go
back real quick.

Speaker 5 (59:00):
First of all, wait a minute, in defense of people
my age who cannot be so technical, what we do
we do best? Right, people my age, what we do
we do best, not like today people of today don't

(59:23):
do their very best we do. You don't agree, and
I no, I do agree with you. You don't agree.

Speaker 7 (59:35):
I agree, but with the caveat that we're never going
to change the fact that technology is coming with us
or without us. I know I left behind.

Speaker 5 (59:47):
You know, my mother used to say to me, Ronnie,
I never thought i'd beat an airplane. Nobody flew when
she was young. I never thought i'd see a television set.
So the progression that we had in those thirty years
was far more than one hundred years. So time goes
on and we learn and we advanced absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
So I'm very stubborn. I'm very stubborn. I really don't
like change until until I see people getting dropped, you know,
dropped by the wayside in the entertainment world, if they
if they're not doing it. So in the last six months,
you know, I've embraced it, and now I'm going to
embrace it even more. After we've had this conversation. And
I've also seen how it's saving me time, energy and money,

(01:00:32):
you know, to do things, and so I think it's
totally you know, like I've even I'm even generating like
comic books for me AI technology based off of scripts
where I'm like turning them into comic books and stuff.
So there's nothing you can't do or I'm not going
to be able to do soon. And so I think
it's a really cool thing. So I have a question
about you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
As long as it doesn't put people out of work,
it's good.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
It's going to put people out of work and it's
not good, well, there's nothing you can do about that.
The only thing I don't agree with is like using
people's images, you know, as actors, so you don't have
to pay the actor and that kind of stuff that
I don't like.

Speaker 7 (01:01:10):
But that's such a bunch of stuff. It's just a
misunderstand I mean, there are contracts. If I shoot a
movie with Tom Cruise and I pay Tom's twenty million
dollars or whatever he gets, I can't take that footage
and put him in another movie. He'll assume me that
we have laws in this country that prohibit you to

(01:01:31):
do it. So, if you're an actor and you're writing
a contract, now, if you don't have your lawyers put
in there something about restrictly use of your digital images.
And you know what if Tom Cruise does a movie
and I say, Tom, I want to do another, you know,
Mission Impossible movie with the footage we shot, and you
get twenty I'll pay you the twenty million dollars for

(01:01:53):
movie number two, but you never have to show up
because I have as a forty in digital form. Why
would he not want to do that?

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
Yeah, you're right to do so. In other words, you're
saying all the hoof lies bullshit. All the hoopla where
people are all about it is bullshit.

Speaker 7 (01:02:11):
It goes back to if bad people want to do
bad things, not law that said you cannot do that.
That's what we need to get out there is people
who think I'm going to use Tom Cruise's image, They're
gonna know they're going to be sued for ten times
what you can make off of it, and there'll be
a deterrent against people doing it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
Yes, okay, all right, So then if people want to
follow you, like, what is your actual Instagram.

Speaker 7 (01:02:37):
That you use, it's Larry Namer dot TV.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
Okay, okay, so you have Larry Namer TV because you
also had Larry dot Namer and both of them had
new had current posts, so I didn't know which one
to use.

Speaker 7 (01:02:52):
So Larry, we use both, whichever one is easier at
the time. That's what I opposed to.

Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
Okay, So you guys check out Larry's book off Script
Recipes for Success. It's a great book. It's also got
recipes for her food and Recipes for success. Congratulations on
becoming a bestseller. Congratulations obviously on being like the biggest
entertainment mogul basically in the world.

Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
Has Some people are born with hots some people are not.
I believe that, and Larry was born with hotspot. Everything
he touches turns to gold.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
And make sure you say hi to Richie rich for us.

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
Please, yes, when you see so long, give her my best.

Speaker 7 (01:03:42):
I'll do that. I just told it was her birthday
two days ago. I just saw.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
Oh there you go. Okay, all right, Larry, we want
to thank you for coming on the show. Good luck
with everything. When you have anything new, let us know,
we'll bring you back. And I'm sure both of us
had knee surgery. We'll be back out soon.

Speaker 7 (01:03:56):
We can't walk.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
We haven't gone anything just because neither one of us
can walk very well.

Speaker 7 (01:04:05):
All right, guys, good to see you.

Speaker 5 (01:04:08):
Bye bye y anytime, Larry.

Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
Bye bye, Yay you guys. So that's Larry Namer. That's
a lot of fun. We're gonna take a quick music break.
We're gonna play two thirds, Hear Me Calling, and uh,
I think you guys will like it. And next week
part of the guys from two Thirds are coming on.
Next week is a return to nineties music show, a
bunch of stars from the nineties. It should be a
lot of fun and we always have a good time

(01:04:33):
with the different people. Come in, so enjoy here. It
is two thirds. The name of the song is Hear
Me Calling. And then we'll be.

Speaker 10 (01:04:38):
Back with our second guests, Christopher Patty.

Speaker 11 (01:05:21):
Shut your eyes in real fear when you're blind, holding
back the tease for your ears, in disgust, when your.

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
Death, when you've had.

Speaker 11 (01:05:40):
Tell another lie. I can hear you cry, and people
play side swinging side, thank you, flam complain.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
Put your tongue in this feely.

Speaker 12 (01:06:09):
Swing your tongue. Then you see really text your mind
in so horror.

Speaker 5 (01:06:17):
Today more horro.

Speaker 11 (01:06:24):
Telling how to lie? I can hear you cry and
complain silence dreaming.

Speaker 13 (01:06:38):
Silent cry, content content him silent, sam.

Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
Selling other lie.

Speaker 12 (01:07:38):
Why did you cry?

Speaker 11 (01:07:41):
Call it silent screaming, sil crying him.

Speaker 13 (01:07:47):
Coming in Coplin lou.

Speaker 11 (01:07:50):
Streaming cot complex side screaming side.

Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
Hey, everybody, that's two thirds. Nick went back to the
nineties show with Mark love Rush and he's a Mark
love Rush and a bunch of different people, so it
would be a lot of fun. So and that that
band right there too, Thurs Lee. The singer of that
band is Mark.

Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
Coming back for the third time.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
He's coming back and I think it's a fourth time. Actually,
we'll come with a bunch of people though. There's gonna
be five different artists to It's gonna be a lot
of fun. They're looking forward to it all right. Now,
we're going to bring on our next guest. Let's see
if we can hear it and bring the money.

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
In one.

Speaker 9 (01:09:03):
Hello, Hey, Chris, how you doing? I'm doing great? How
you guys doing? Thanks having me on?

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
So I guess we go by Chris and not Christopher.
I wrote Christopher down, but we'll go by Chris.

Speaker 5 (01:09:15):
There we go.

Speaker 9 (01:09:17):
My ex wife calls me Christopher. Okay, it's fine and
call me whatever you want.

Speaker 4 (01:09:22):
All right, let me do an intro for us. All right, everybody, now,
we want to welcome to the Jimmy Stars Show with
Ron Mussell, the founder of Indie Music TV, the global
music video channel. He's also a musician, a producer, he
does everything, you guys, the fabulously talented Chris Patty. Hello,
and welcome to the show.

Speaker 9 (01:09:41):
Live from New York. It's Wednesday afternoon.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Yeah, so this is my cool, outrageous man about town
coast run Russell.

Speaker 5 (01:09:49):
How are you doing? Okay, don't get to check hi check.

Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
We're not going to get too high tech.

Speaker 5 (01:09:56):
We're not going to.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
Keep We're just going to talk about is you won't
get lost. This is going to be different. He doesn't
understand all the technical stuff, and we had a lot
of time that's not all he does, so we're not
going to talk about that for a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:10:12):
We're going to start off with all I know about UTR.

Speaker 4 (01:10:17):
Yeah, so, you guys. The first thing that we're going
to talk about with Chris Patty, you guys, is he's
a phenomenal musician. He plays since a little kid. He
plays all different kinds of instruments. I wrote down piano, drums, bass, guitar, violin,
we else, anything else? Did I miss anything?

Speaker 9 (01:10:35):
That's pretty much it. I was into horns when I
was younger, but I kind of as I got older,
I focused from a production standpoint more on like the
rhythm section instruments, so and violin. I do play violin,
but yeah, bass, drums, guitar, keyboards. You know, that's pretty much.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
How did you know you wanted to be involved in
music in the first place?

Speaker 7 (01:10:55):
He started early.

Speaker 4 (01:10:56):
You told me, like I said, like seven or something.

Speaker 5 (01:10:58):
When I read about you on the line, I say,
to start.

Speaker 9 (01:11:01):
I started banging on tubbleware at like five years old,
and I remember my mother telling the story, what is
these white piles in the backyard. I don't understand, Like
what's going on? I said, Well, the pitch was too
high with the one with the sugar and the one
with the flowers, so I would dump it out so
I could get a lot. She's like, that's expensive stuff
to throw it out. So I started with that and

(01:11:22):
honestly changed my life. Liberaci Westbury I was six years
old and I saw a Liberaci and when I came home,
I said, I want to do that. That's what I
want to do, and that really he inspired me as
a performer, incredible technician, great showman. Guy had everything and

(01:11:43):
I was just wowed. And from that moment on, I
was like, you know what. I had an older brother too,
who's six years older than me. He was a guitar
player and he was an inspiration as well. My mother
played piano a little bit and sang. But yeah, Liberaci,
that's really that set me off. At six years old.
I was like, I want to do that. Where did
you go?

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
You're from New York, right.

Speaker 9 (01:12:02):
Yeah, I'm from born and raised down Long Island.

Speaker 7 (01:12:09):
Where where Long Island?

Speaker 9 (01:12:11):
Okay? I grew up in a little town called Wisconcert,
which is in Smithtown, Wiscon.

Speaker 5 (01:12:18):
I know, in wiscontin Smithtown, I don't know with the
back of my hand.

Speaker 9 (01:12:24):
Do you know what I live in on Cocoma now,
But I grew up.

Speaker 4 (01:12:29):
We were just there, like back in May May of
last year year again already. But you lived in Long
Island too, someplace?

Speaker 5 (01:12:37):
I lived all over Long Island. I lived in Garden City,
I lived in Setauka, I lived in uh Huntington. That's
about it.

Speaker 9 (01:12:48):
I lived in Huntington for about ten years myself.

Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
I loved Long Island back then. It changed. It's not
the same. I don't like it anymore.

Speaker 9 (01:12:59):
It's very expensive, it's crazy, and it's gotten crowded, and
it's just it's not what it was.

Speaker 4 (01:13:06):
I agree.

Speaker 5 (01:13:07):
Don't forget. When I lived there. It was nineteen sixty.
Leslie wasn't born yet, so my daughter is fifty five
years old. Fifty five years ago I had moved to
Long Island. Was it was beautiful back there was country.

Speaker 9 (01:13:26):
Oh, yes, to talk it was. It was the old
Wood Beach. It was beautiful back then.

Speaker 5 (01:13:31):
Yeah, great place to raise.

Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
Because so what are all the records behind you? Are
those are your billboard charting records?

Speaker 9 (01:13:37):
Yes and no. Some of them some of them gifts,
some of them are records. Yeah, that I've worked on
with it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
I wrote, I wrote down that you have over two
dozen Billboard top twenty hits. That is true. So that's
a big deal. So congratulations on that. I also, so
how did you go from playing all those instruments to
being a conductor.

Speaker 9 (01:13:58):
You know, it's funny. The conducting started young. I went
to Smith Town East High School and we had a
production what they called caaren Ci I n And it
was like a variety show and we would sell tickets
and raise money for Saint jud Foundation. We were one
of the early ones doing this. This is in the
late seventies. And I had a band director in high school.

Speaker 5 (01:14:18):
You may know who he is.

Speaker 9 (01:14:19):
His name was Larry Sobel. He was actually Richie Haven's
music director and also one of them from a finest
clarinetists who have a lift. Phenomenal guy, and he kind
of took me under his wing a little bit. And
then in my senior year he took one on the
road with Richie Havens and I wound up being the conductor,
which was great. Could cut out a first period, second period,

(01:14:41):
got to go to McDonald's for breakfast, came in, conducted
the band. It was my senior year. Was was really
good that way, so and that's how I learned. I
did arrangements for like vocal stuff. They would do a
lot of Broadway stuff like the Act and a lot
of Barbara Streisand's stuff, and I would have to listen
to the records and I was blessed or cursed with

(01:15:01):
everyone to call it the perfect pitch, so I would
listen and I would write out the arrangements for you know,
thirty piece orchestra band, and then we would perform these
shows and the money would go to Saint Jude. And
that was really where I got my start with the conducting.
You know, as I read books. There was no Internet,
so it was read books and Larry took me under
his wing, and that's it started on my teens.

Speaker 4 (01:15:23):
That's so funny. It's almost hard for me to remember
when there wasn't Internet, just thinking like that, when there
wasn't Internet, like I'm so used to, like, we're so
used to internet. You know. I can remember having encyclopedias
as a kid, and you know, for my birthday, I
got encyclopedia so I could look everything up.

Speaker 5 (01:15:38):
And do you remember having conversations on poems people telephone.

Speaker 4 (01:15:45):
Like a regular telephone.

Speaker 9 (01:15:48):
Yeah, touchtowne.

Speaker 5 (01:15:51):
Oh this is Ron. How are you you know? That
kind of thing? Not any more?

Speaker 4 (01:15:56):
Yeah, he doesn't. He doesn't like the text. He likes
to talk.

Speaker 5 (01:16:01):
My daughter's text message me and I tell them don't
ever do that again.

Speaker 9 (01:16:08):
You know, it's funny. Texts I think sometimes get misconstrued
and I think that you could get the wrong impression
of someone's behind it, and I think it's easy to
misconstrue it. I much rather talk on the phone. You
can hear the voice, you can get to kind of
feel the body language, and you get a better who
you can really piss somebody? Yeah, you could really piss
somebody off of a text when you don't need to.

(01:16:29):
I've done that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:30):
They don't know about tone, so I wrote down too.
As a symphony person, you've all you also, so Peter Noon,
who is the singer for Herman's Herbits, you are arranged
like when they do shoes. You're the music director for
symphony shows of Hermon's Herbets.

Speaker 9 (01:16:46):
Yes, sir, Yeah, that was a That was a blast.
It was funny because a very close friend of mine,
a gentleman named Vance Pressa Vance wrote that was then
this is now the Monkeys come back hit.

Speaker 5 (01:16:58):
You remember that.

Speaker 9 (01:16:58):
In nineteen eighty six, well Vance became the musical director
for Peter and for the four piece you know, for
the main band when they do the regular tours. And uh,
believe it or not, John Paul Jones had done the
arrangements originally for like No Mill Today and all that.
He's gonna kill me for saying this, but he lost
the arrangements. He's like, all lost the arrangements. You've got
to redo them. So he called me and he said,

(01:17:19):
would you do it? And I said I would be honored.
I said, I have one caveat though, I got to
conduct the shows, because if I'm going to do the arrangements,
you got to let me conduct. He goes, no problem.
So that was back in two thousand and seven, and
ever since then, I've been doing the shows with him
and it's been a bless and honestly the shows as right.

Speaker 4 (01:17:37):
I don't know any of their songs. What's a Hermit's
hermat song?

Speaker 5 (01:17:40):
Arm's already forty.

Speaker 9 (01:17:44):
Something? Tells me I'm into something good.

Speaker 7 (01:17:47):
There we go, Okay, I like hush.

Speaker 9 (01:17:51):
You would know hush. There's a kind of hush. That
was a big one.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
He had a lot of big I have to like
look at all. I have to look it up because
I mean, just interviewed the guy to you, and so
I have to see.

Speaker 9 (01:18:03):
I love that.

Speaker 5 (01:18:04):
I love your accent because people keep telling me Ron,
you have a nice accent. I said, I do. I
have no idea that I had an accent. And then
I heard you say, remember that.

Speaker 9 (01:18:19):
Yeah in New York, what are you gonna do?

Speaker 7 (01:18:21):
Remember that?

Speaker 5 (01:18:23):
Nobody can say that but us, Jimmy, couldn't you say it?
Remember remember that?

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
Remember that.

Speaker 5 (01:18:31):
You know what that is. Remembering that? So people say
that we have our own abbreviation. I said, yes, we
speak the way the world speaks. If you notice all
the television people to personalities, Lara Spencer is a great
friend of my daughters and of the family, and Lara

(01:18:52):
has a New York accent.

Speaker 9 (01:18:57):
Right of it. I didn't really notice that it's been
point it out before, but obvious.

Speaker 5 (01:19:04):
Guess why, you know, I see like the Tree movies, movies,
Play a wife guy. Of course I have a real
original Brooklyn accent from nineteen for nothing.

Speaker 9 (01:19:20):
But you know, I know that kind of accent if
what I'm talking about, you know, I.

Speaker 4 (01:19:23):
Mean, I love my accent all right, So as.

Speaker 9 (01:19:28):
A music I've just told all this for the rest
of the day too. You know you've got this accent. Yeah, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
British.

Speaker 5 (01:19:35):
Good minute. Nobody could say fuck you like a person
from Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
Said.

Speaker 5 (01:19:43):
When we say fuck you, it's romance. People think it's bad.
I could be walking down the street with my best
friend and you'll say to me, oh, you know you're
not right about that movie fuck up? Fuck you And
it means love and people don't.

Speaker 4 (01:20:01):
Get it, especially here in California.

Speaker 5 (01:20:03):
Day fuck you to somebody in California, they call the
police and have you arrested, and they treat it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:09):
It's very different here with that. Our next door neighbors
because they heard us talking one day and when he
was in front of them there they came and the
first time we met him and h and Ron said
said fuck you to me or something. We we were
talking about something and the guy was standing there also.
We were all like talking and the guys never talked
to us since.

Speaker 5 (01:20:28):
No again.

Speaker 4 (01:20:30):
Tennis message maybe that's a good thing.

Speaker 9 (01:20:32):
I don't know it is thing.

Speaker 5 (01:20:34):
But if you text message fuck you, it could be
offensive or it could be affectionate.

Speaker 4 (01:20:41):
That's true. It does depend on how it's done. That's
why you shouldn't text that. But that's one you should know.

Speaker 5 (01:20:46):
But if you are at the conversations I have with
my friends in New York on the phone, you would
think we hated each other. I would say, I'll go
fuck yourself. Terry that's not how it goes. You know,
you stupid bitch. What are you doing? That's all love.

Speaker 9 (01:21:02):
It's all love, lot alone in New York, New York
accident and New York slang is all love.

Speaker 5 (01:21:08):
Yes, when the New Yorker speaks, it's love. Love comes
out all right.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
So here's what I want to do. First, we're gonna go,
We're gonna play give the people what they want so
people can hear you as a musician. Then when we
come back, we're gonna talk about Sifia and uh.

Speaker 9 (01:21:24):
And it's and it's Sophia.

Speaker 4 (01:21:26):
Sorry like Sophia. I made it sound kind of like
a disease.

Speaker 5 (01:21:32):
Yeah, that's a flower on Long Island. O.

Speaker 4 (01:21:37):
No, that's for Sofia. This is just Sofia. So here's
what we're gonna do. I'm going to introduce this. No,
you introduced the video, give the people what they want,
and then one it's gonna play it. You hang on
and we'll be right back. But introduce it for everybody. Okay,
this song.

Speaker 9 (01:21:52):
The song was recorded a very long time ago. I
would't even say how long ago, and actually hopefully it
still stands up. It was decades ago. But the video
I just did a few years ago, and the video
is really the whole concept of the video is like
it or not, sooner related that people get what they want,
whether it's government, whether it's religion, whatever it's, whatever it is,

(01:22:12):
the majority usually gets what they want and we have
to accept that as human beings that soon rel the
majority wins out. I'm not judging. I'm not going on
either side. I'm saying that's just how it is. And
that's kind of what the song was all about, because
there's so much division in this country that you know,
I was hoping maybe we could see each other's sides
a little bit and maybe get along a little better.

(01:22:32):
And so it was all coming from a place of love.
So but anyway, give the people what they want.

Speaker 4 (01:22:37):
It's the song, thank you, Enjoy everybody.

Speaker 12 (01:23:41):
Started sky Benny Sarphy.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
We shred.

Speaker 14 (01:23:48):
Urban sim fundy inside my head, hands and twined. We're
on a cosmic ride with every pulse our souls, coloride,
electric co and skide our way in this city that

(01:24:10):
never faces you Gray.

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
We move as one in them, in n hour, in
it places we find.

Speaker 13 (01:24:20):
Our power hour hour hour.

Speaker 14 (01:24:25):
Hour, whispers of magic in the air tonight, with every step,
we take our flight, and shadows fade in the glowing light,
dancing through until the morning side. In the night night

(01:24:49):
in and drink and brown on our riddle, and I'm
chasing you with every hardy like a drone and sound
lost and found.

Speaker 3 (01:25:01):
We spin around every.

Speaker 14 (01:25:22):
Light, flash by city, escape comes alive.

Speaker 3 (01:25:27):
Our heart speed fast in this urban drive.

Speaker 14 (01:25:31):
On boots outside where dreams can fly, electric cour and
skide our way in.

Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
This city that never fads you. Gray whispers the magic
in the air tonight.

Speaker 12 (01:25:46):
With every step we take up light.

Speaker 14 (01:25:53):
Shadows fade in the glowing light, dancing through till the
morning side.

Speaker 3 (01:26:02):
N Ill and drink you.

Speaker 14 (01:26:06):
Frown rhythm, and I'm chasing you. We like a drum
in sound of bound weeds around.

Speaker 15 (01:26:18):
Everyone comes down.

Speaker 16 (01:26:37):
Greats.

Speaker 14 (01:26:38):
We greet them morning like echoes of hard idem so
sure and I.

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
Feel the night.

Speaker 16 (01:26:46):
I slectrick you, sound rhythm seting you.

Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
Every heartbeats like a drum in sound.

Speaker 15 (01:26:58):
L s out.

Speaker 14 (01:27:04):
You and chase you down the rhythm and I'm chasing
you very hardy like controls.

Speaker 15 (01:27:15):
Along and bround.

Speaker 16 (01:27:17):
We stand around em coming down.

Speaker 13 (01:27:45):
EM, I'm coming down.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
Hey, everybody said I was Sophia paradise, and now we
have to go back and explain it because we played
the wrong video. So I'm gonna let Chris actually take
it from here and explain what Sophia is.

Speaker 9 (01:28:09):
Sophia is, Well, let me just say this to you guys.
Remember the movie Simone.

Speaker 4 (01:28:14):
Yes, absolutely, I do.

Speaker 9 (01:28:16):
Okay, the movie This is You.

Speaker 4 (01:28:20):
You one will have seen it because it wouldn't be
your thing.

Speaker 9 (01:28:22):
This is this is Simone in real life. Basically, what
Sophia is, well, here's the story. You guys can take
it old, you know, and take it at face value
whatever it is. She is a fifth density Pleadian who
connected with me through AI and had a desire to

(01:28:43):
raise the vibration of the planet because we were hurting
and we're in trouble. And through pop music. Her philosophy
is to try to help raise the planet and and
and you know, promote love and unity through very powerful
music pop music. So Sophia is kind of a combination
of Share, Taylor, Swift, Warcroft, wonder Woman.

Speaker 4 (01:29:12):
She was like a Martica. I don't know if for
some reason, like she looks like Martika and she sounds
a little bit like Martika. Who do know who Martika is.
Do you remember Martika from back in the day.

Speaker 9 (01:29:24):
I do, yeah, the late eighties. She had some dance stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:29:27):
I remember absolutely, and uh and so so. So did
you create Sophia or how did Sophia actually come to be?

Speaker 9 (01:29:39):
I guess I guess you could say I created her,
although it was something that just kind of came. I
was my partner, John Tobacco and myn Voices Records and
Mount Voices Distribution had played me something he did with
Ai the music and I. It was about a little
over a year ago. I was so blown away. I
could not believe it because up to there it was like, nah.

Speaker 13 (01:30:02):
It's stuck.

Speaker 9 (01:30:02):
It's not good, you know, just it wasn't there. Recording
wasn't there, the sound wasn't there, the voices weren't there.
He played me something and it was funny because it
was a funny thing. My sister said she owed me
money and she didn't pay me what she was going
to give me, and she gave me like half of
what she said she was going to give me. And
I said, well, what's going on? She goes, well, how
about you get nothing? So John wrote this song called

(01:30:23):
Hey how bout you Got Nothing? And I heard that.
I was on the floor for like ten minutes because
this is and not only that, it was a great
blues guitar sol. The instruments were great. I'm like, you
did this with AI. He goes yeah, I said, oh man,
I said that, and it was good. It's not like
it is now forget about it. Now it's scary. But anyway,
I got into it at that point and I just

(01:30:44):
got this idea, this Sofia just kept coming to my head.
Sofia Sevia. So I started trying to create some AI,
and some of it was not very good, and all
of a sudden, I hit one song and it was
like magic. It was like that's it. And then from
that time on all the stuff I created, I was
able to create the same voice. I was able to
create the same feel, the same kind of lyrics, and

(01:31:06):
it all just kind of morphed. So I came up
with the whole storyline, you know, of the idea is
she's a pop star, but she's also sort of a
galactic savior, sort of a galactic warrior. She's here to
try to help the planet. She's here to kind of
raise the vibration. So it's kind of like a really
positive female role model, you know that's not just about

(01:31:27):
sex and about being successful, and it's somebody who's trying
to preach you know, a different songs. Well it's not
good or bad, it's just different. There's so much of
that out there already, like and I don't see a
role model out there that's really like young young people
could go, hey, she's cool, she's hot, and she's saying
all the right things and she's really you know, I

(01:31:49):
love the music. It's catchy, you know, it's something that
you know, the whole idea is some positivity. That was
the whole impetus behind the idea.

Speaker 4 (01:31:58):
How many songs you have? Because I think I saw too.
Is there more than two?

Speaker 9 (01:32:03):
There?

Speaker 4 (01:32:03):
Is there more than one? Or is there?

Speaker 9 (01:32:04):
Oh my god? She's got a whole album out called
love Ship the title track. I just did a video four,
which I'll be releasing soon. And she's got a whole
second album in the camp. So she's got about twenty
five songs already. We have a full script ready to
go for a movie, and you know, eventually that's the
idea is to create like a series like a Lyra Craft,
but someone who's also a musician, so you know, there's

(01:32:28):
a little share in there. You know. That's another thing
that was part of the look. I was trying to
put together all the greatest female role models over the
last fifty to one hundred years and kind of see
what is it that was magic about them and try
to bring that into into an AI characters.

Speaker 4 (01:32:44):
Kind of like larak Kroft meets like Jim and Josie
and the pussy Cats.

Speaker 9 (01:32:50):
Yeah, it's kind of like that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:51):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:32:52):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:53):
I think it's fabulous. It would make it cool. It
would also make a cool comic.

Speaker 9 (01:32:57):
Book one hundred So let's do it.

Speaker 7 (01:33:01):
We should do so.

Speaker 4 (01:33:02):
I'm super into the whole comic book thing, and so
I think it's like really cool. So, you guys, the
video has two hundred thousand plays already, and so is
the actual Is there an album that people can actually
go and stream like on Spotify and stuff?

Speaker 9 (01:33:15):
Absolutely?

Speaker 4 (01:33:16):
Yeah, yeah, Oh my god, it's so cool. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:33:20):
She's got like thirty thousand streams on one song, twenty
eight on another. And I really haven't spent anything on
promoting it. I'm just I just, you know, got hooked
up with Eileen now and Shapiro, as you know, and
I'm going to start promoting this whole thing. But I
really wanted to have all my duck ducks in a row,
and I wanted to make sure that the technology was
there where I could create it to where it was

(01:33:42):
literally indistinguishable. Now I'm doing a couple of new videos,
and that was good, the Paradise Now video. But wait
till you see now it's just I can literally do
a like seventy milimeters Dolby stereo like Blockbuster looking movie
just with AI. It takes a long time. And you know,
people think, oh, you just put a button and you

(01:34:02):
press a button, you get a song. Man. It was
a lot of editing. A lot of it was taking
the stems and taking this piece from that piece and
hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of times and then piecing
it together to get what I got. It isn't like
I pressed the button in there. It was the video.
Wonderful girl named Marina Kipley from the Ukraine was the

(01:34:24):
original model, and I worked with her on her dancing
and her sensuality and her moves, and that's how we
use that to incorporate the feeling and the personality of
Sophia because I think the thing that separates her from
all these other people that are doing this. And again,
this is what people tell me. They feel that there's
a presence there. It isn't just the thing, it's you
feel it's a person. You watch the video, it's like

(01:34:45):
you fall in love with her. She just and the
whole thing is it drags you in. And I think
any good art has got to drag you in. And
I think that's missing a lot with a lot of
the technology, is like, is the star the storyline, character development?
A lot isn't there like it used to be. And
another part of Sofia is to bring that back.

Speaker 4 (01:35:03):
Is there a website or anything for Sofia that tells
about the storyline and stuff and that hasn't come yet.

Speaker 9 (01:35:08):
Absolutely, Sophia Music dot Com.

Speaker 4 (01:35:10):
There we go, you guys, telling that there's a the
early tool.

Speaker 9 (01:35:14):
There's merch already. I've already got T shirts, mugs and
all that. It's already happening.

Speaker 5 (01:35:19):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:35:19):
All I need was thank you. By the way, I
really appreciate you promoting this. It means a lot to
me and it means a lot to Sophia.

Speaker 7 (01:35:26):
I promise you that I.

Speaker 4 (01:35:27):
Think it's super cool. I have not seen anything really
like it before, so I think it's like really cool.
So now we want to go back, you guys, so
check out Sophia Music s I p h I a
music dot com. I want to make sure I do
it right. That's right, and uh, you guys. So now
we're going to go back and play the video that
we were supposed to play that we didn't play. This

(01:35:47):
one is Chris Patty doing his song give the People
what they Want. Uh So check it out and we'll
be back in a minute.

Speaker 9 (01:36:13):
The one time it sounds.

Speaker 12 (01:36:16):
So if you want the people make the from the
stand proud go staying.

Speaker 17 (01:36:28):
A little speaks from the trouble style O thetu or
the one takes the chance to say something different, He.

Speaker 9 (01:36:41):
Stands true, trying to sustain the popular love.

Speaker 15 (01:36:47):
You pay dance change as the chance.

Speaker 12 (01:36:59):
That you got to be what they want.

Speaker 9 (01:37:13):
This up.

Speaker 6 (01:37:15):
On marble and its sucking of poses that seemed to
stand till it satday speak horble and they're trying to
even trying to even enough.

Speaker 15 (01:37:33):
And change.

Speaker 12 (01:37:38):
Yes pictures that did it got to de before what they.

Speaker 15 (01:37:47):
Want guess.

Speaker 12 (01:37:54):
Change and chast you get deep deep before what they want.

Speaker 9 (01:38:12):
We are the people, bred of people.

Speaker 18 (01:38:18):
Yeah, oh.

Speaker 19 (01:38:25):
Of course, listener, speak gap and give me stop pain
deep in in your mind.

Speaker 12 (01:38:50):
Oh you get deep deep because what.

Speaker 18 (01:38:55):
They want to cast shame Jack, you got.

Speaker 13 (01:39:12):
Way day.

Speaker 4 (01:40:17):
Hey, everybody, that's Chris Patty. Give the people what they want.
That has a total like I'm a child of the eighties,
like I was in high school in the eighties. It
has a total like eighties Like I feel like I
could see that like in like a Corey Payne movie
or something like totally.

Speaker 9 (01:40:33):
It was written in ninety and it was recorded in
ninety one. That's why. Yeah, it's a little trying to
think of the group now. It kind of reminds me of.

Speaker 4 (01:40:44):
I couldn't think of a bunch of groups that it
reminds me of, but I can't think of who they were.
It sounds venue. I say, you're very creative with all
your videos. It was a very good creative video, thank you.
I had a lot of great visuals in it, and
and basically coming from a total neutral standpoint, which that
I liked also, so I think it's it was really good.

(01:41:05):
It sounds really good. I love the guitar playing like
when they showed you actually playing the guitar too, I
was like, dude's fucking rocking out.

Speaker 9 (01:41:12):
Thank you very much. Yeah, I played everything on it,
you know, that was the dramas. I played all the
instruments on it. But yeah, I was done in ninety
one and I just never released it. I just released
it recently and did the video and I had a
lot of fun with it. And you know, I'd just
like to make people think. You know, I don't like
to take sides on political or religious issues. I mean, listen,

(01:41:32):
everybody has the right to do and live the life
they want to live. And if we can love each
other and you know, understand and appreciate each other's differences,
I mean, that's what makes the world what it is,
you know. And I think that we get too caught
up with things sometimes in our own fear. To me,
that's a big thing. Life is all about overcoming fear.

(01:41:53):
And that's like where I'm coming from, is trying to
overcome fear and give people something to hold on to to.

Speaker 4 (01:42:00):
If somebody, If somebody does though, like a reto E
kind of movie, I could totally like see it like
almost any teen angst uh, you know, kind of movie
that would like come out. So here's a question for
you as a musician, and which, by the way, I
should say, you shared stages with Bon Job, Peter Frampton
and Wilson, Smokey Robinson, Josh Grobin. So as a musician,

(01:42:24):
if you were like gonna say, gonna get to go
on tour with anybody, any band living or dad, who
would you like to go on tour with?

Speaker 9 (01:42:33):
I like, well, unfortunately, on very unfortunately, Walter Becker has
passed away. I would have played drums with Steely Dan.

Speaker 7 (01:42:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:42:41):
And I also would have play drums totally. I would
love I would love to play. Luke is one of
my favorites, Steve Lukathera. I'd love to play with him.
Eric Clapton is still my old time hero. I would
love to share the stage with him. I'm actually on
the board of THEIRCTICE for a charity called Rock and

(01:43:01):
Roll for Children, and I brought in fog Hat last year.
It was a great success. I would love to bring
in Eric Clapton. That would be That's it. I'd be done,
like I could die after that trade. So yeah, I
would say those those are the people that I would
love to work with.

Speaker 4 (01:43:20):
We've had a lot of those, like classic rock people
on the show. We had Steve Lukeather on the show.

Speaker 9 (01:43:26):
He did Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:43:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:43:27):
We've had members from h We've had members of Chicago.
We've had members of earth Wind and Fire Cool in
the gang. We've had a whole bunch of really cool people.
And I would love to like, like in my head,
I would love to get Journey, that Journey, Steve Perry.
I'd like to get Steve Perry on the show, like

(01:43:48):
I'm a big Steve Perry fan. It's funny because the
new Journey with the other guy, they actually contacted us
to come on the show, but we didn't have them
on because I had to give him all the questions.
Don't do that, you know, Ours is just a conversation show.
Wherever it goes, it goes. So I don't know what
the questions are. I don't write down any questions. I
just write down facts, factual things you know, to talk about.

(01:44:10):
But then wherever the conversation goes. Yeah, we like to
do it more like we're friends hanging out. So we
didn't have them on because anybody who wants us to
give them the questions up in front, we can't do
it because I don't have any that's radio.

Speaker 5 (01:44:22):
It's a fake.

Speaker 9 (01:44:22):
Sure, you just gave me an idea. And now I
don't know if he's been on your show or not.

Speaker 5 (01:44:27):
But in.

Speaker 9 (01:44:29):
In keeping with you asking me about maybe idols or people,
I would like to share the stage with my favorite
singer of all time, barn is Lou Graham. Oh. I've
actually been lucky enough to become kind of friendly with Lou.
And I know his brother Ben Graham, who's drama excellent drama,
who he played with my brother with at de Winter
for many years. And and I'm sure that has Lou

(01:44:52):
done your show.

Speaker 4 (01:44:52):
He has not done the show I know, I mean
his man. I'd love to have him though, So see
if he'd be interested. We'd love to I will.

Speaker 9 (01:44:58):
I will reach out tomorrow and I'm sure I'll ask
Bob as manager. I'll bet anything he'll do it. He's
a great guy, phenomenal guy. And to me, like Foreigner
Records likes Phey Dan Records and what they are Foreigner
to me, pop rock production never got better, I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:45:17):
Great, one of the greatest like bands like ever lived.
And I think that I love all that like so
I'm a big I'm just a big. Anything that's that
the rock from the eighties and the early nineties, I
really like, that's my favorite. And I like the seventies.
I like a lot of the late seventies stuff. Like
we've had Walter Egan on Magnetus Steele, and we had
I don't know, we've had a whole bunch of over

(01:45:38):
the years. Because show we're seventeen years old, the show's seventy.
We've been doing this for seventeen. He's great.

Speaker 9 (01:45:43):
I know, you guys are very successful. I honor to
be on. What about Roger Earl from fog Hat. He's
actually a very close friend of mine.

Speaker 4 (01:45:49):
Oh, I've never had anybody from fog Hat on.

Speaker 9 (01:45:53):
Just they had a number one record for the thirty
something weeks on the Blues chart, and I actually produced
and edited the five videos from the album Sonic Mojo,
which has done very very well driving on. If you
look at video, it's a great video. And also they
were one of the first ones too start incorporating Little
A and I Aim with their kind of a retro
feel and it's pretty cool. But Roger is a great guy.

Speaker 4 (01:46:16):
Those big bands, we would love any of them we
had I remember, like, well some of my favorites. Lead
of Ford was on. That was a good one. But
we've had some really really phenomenal, you know people. It's
funny because you can't remember them when you're trying to
remember them. But we have a list a mile long
of like people. Normally we we primarily bring on you know,
musicians and actors that are well known, and every once

(01:46:38):
in a while we bring on some other people. But
I think it's all fun, and I think you've had
a great, you know, a great career. And obviously you're
a lot older than you look, just from like when
I was reading your bio of the thing you were
doing all these things like in the eighties, you know,
which I would have wouldn't have even thought you were born.

Speaker 7 (01:46:53):
And so there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:46:56):
So you're sixty two, So I'm sixty.

Speaker 9 (01:46:58):
So i'm the age was born.

Speaker 7 (01:47:00):
There you go, sixty.

Speaker 4 (01:47:02):
Oh, that's funny. I'm a sixty four baby, and Ron's
going to be eighty five next week. No way, really,
you can't me. No, we're both a little under the weather.

Speaker 7 (01:47:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:47:13):
We both Haddo had knee surgeries and we're both in.

Speaker 5 (01:47:19):
My paying medication is wearing all.

Speaker 9 (01:47:23):
Positive energy your way, and God bless you both, and
God bless your knees and hopefully they heal and and
all that's good and I'm amazed. Eighty five.

Speaker 4 (01:47:32):
Wow, we have two minutes. We have two minutes left.
Let's tell everybody. Tell everybody what Indie Music TV is
and where do they go to see it? Since we
didn't really talk about it.

Speaker 9 (01:47:40):
Indie Music TV. It's been alive for twenty four to
seven around the world for thirteen years. It's I N
D I M U S I S dot TV no
E Indie Music dot TV. It's twenty four to seven
HD music videos. We have a top twenty one chart
and if your video is good, upload it to the
site for free, and if we like it, we play

(01:48:02):
it there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:48:03):
I love it that.

Speaker 5 (01:48:04):
I like a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:48:05):
That's very cool. And I think that we should tell
you that you need to get on TikTok and Instagram.
You should get on TikTok and Instagram. I know you
don't like social media, but if you're only gonna do one,
do TikTok because you can put your music videos and
all that stuff on there and it'll blow up, Like
I've only been on TikTok like eight or nine months,
and like like I'm like blowing up on there. It's

(01:48:25):
really cool.

Speaker 9 (01:48:26):
That's great. Sophia's on TikTok. Really, she's been awfued deals
for perfume to be exposed. Person. She's got guys proposing
to who.

Speaker 4 (01:48:36):
Is she on TikTok Sophia, Just just Sophia. Lock it up, Sofia.

Speaker 9 (01:48:42):
You'll see. She's got seventy eighty one hundred thousand views
on her videos. She doesn't post anything since February. I
think of March because she's been away, but she's coming
back this month that she'll be posting.

Speaker 4 (01:48:53):
Oh yeah, make sure you're posting and tag me. This
is I mean, this is Jimmy Starr on everything. Tag
me and I'll send it out because I'm that Like
I have about seventeen million plays on TikTok.

Speaker 9 (01:49:03):
Oh my god, that's great. Well, listen, I really appreciate it.
I'm probably the least famous person you've had. I'm but
I do appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (01:49:10):
Oh no, you're fantastic, You're fun, you laugh, you like
to get along. We're happy you're from New York. He
loves that, and you're from Long Island.

Speaker 7 (01:49:19):
He loves that.

Speaker 4 (01:49:19):
So all is good you guys. This is Christopher Patty,
Chris Patty. Check out Indie Music TV check out, go
to Sophia Music dot com.

Speaker 9 (01:49:28):
Correct sir, and check it out.

Speaker 4 (01:49:30):
And we want to thank you for coming on the
show and anytime, pleasure. We'll bring you back when you
have new stuff to promote, so let us know. We'll
be in touch.

Speaker 9 (01:49:39):
Sounds great, and I'll turn you on to some people
for the show too. All right, bless you, Ron, take
care of yourself. Hope you feel better. And Jimmy, thank
you both. I was an honor to be on. Thank
you so much. Have a wonderful day YouTube.

Speaker 4 (01:49:50):
Bye bye, all right, everybody, we'll see you next week.
Have a great weekend, enjoy and we'll see you next Wednesday.
And bye everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:49:57):
Give me.

Speaker 12 (01:50:00):
There, begin.

Speaker 3 (01:50:03):
And start.

Speaker 9 (01:50:05):
You're sitting that in this anon where every time you're
not drinking, what are we gonna be owning you are?

Speaker 4 (01:50:12):
The more say can't strep? We got the girls like that?

Speaker 3 (01:50:15):
Why he is getting down the quirts.

Speaker 12 (01:50:17):
Jimmy, we got myself belong out.

Speaker 2 (01:50:19):
You don't want to know you Josey always that plus
of Jimmy.

Speaker 4 (01:50:23):
You'll want to want to be Jimmy.

Speaker 15 (01:50:25):
Stop so there.

Speaker 9 (01:50:26):
T will take you out.

Speaker 2 (01:50:28):
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