Sam Irvin/ John Michael Ferrari

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
Gimme cotective, gave me, We don't want to know, pelidn't give.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
You hey he Welcome to the Jimmy Stars Show with
Ron Russell, bringing you the good times of music, fashion,
pop culture and entertainment. We have a fun show for
you guys today. But before we get started, today's my
sixty first birthday. I'm actually old, and today is run
in my anniversary, fourteen year universary. So with that it's

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being said, we want to wish everybody happy. Thanks for
tuning in. I'm a little under the weather, so my
voice is off, but people already joining us in the
chat room, so let's say hi to the chat Let's
say him my cool outrageous man about town co host
mister Ron Russell.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Oh, now it's mister fourteen years later, it's we are suffering.
He's suffering from a cold, and I am from the desert.
Don't live in the desert, folks. It's not healthy anyway.
My nose is so clogged. It's because of something is

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blooming at in the desert and the winds blows and
whatever it's blooming up your fucking nose, and then you
get sick.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
You have to speak up. I think they'll just speak
up because I don't think people.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
My voice is theater train. I can whisper and you
can hear me in the last row of the theater.
You're not theater trained. You your talks Hello over ready? No,
you start off and then you mumble. I have theater speech.
I continuously keep my voice at the same level, with
the same amount of air. I am theater trained, darlings.

Speaker 5 (02:39):
Very low.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
What's up, chat room, Sidney. Lady Lake has joined us
in the channel. She wished us a happy anniversary and
happy birthday.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
The bomb bell is in the chat room at Medica
Tour and say hi to Tina for us. Yes, yes, yes,
and we have a fun show today, you guys. We
have Sam Irvin coming on. He's a War winning director
of producer, screenwriter, and author. He's worked with a bunch
of cool people. And then we have John Michael Ferrari
coming on, who's uh, today's the last day to vote

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for Grammys and he's four year consideration up for a
Grammy and he's a child n and uh uh yeah,
and so we're gonna play some of his new music.
So it should be a lot of fun. Sam Irvin
has got a bunch of books that he's written, and
he's worked with a bunch of great people. I think
you guys will like it a lot. I'm excited about
it because I've I know all the different things that

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he's done. There aren't that many people that come on
that I like know all the different cool things that
they did. I know all the cool things that he's done,
Like he was he did the Elvira TV show. He
did he has a book, Confessions of a Brian de
Palmer Protege, how I shadowed the director on The Fury,
Dressed to Kill and more, And The Fury is one

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of my favorite movies, and so is Dressed to Kill.
So it should be fun. He also wrote a book
on Somebody, but I don't know who she is. He
wrote a book called Kay Thompson From Funny Face to
Elouise that got all promoted big heavily on turning classic movies.
But I don't know who Kay Thompson is, do you?

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Of course I know who k Tompson is.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Okay, So, and he's worked with everybody, you guys. He's
got a bunch of books and he's worked with a
lot of really great people. So I think it'll be
a lot of fun. And then we're gonna play some
new music from John Michael Ferrari, the song that's up
for a Grammy, and he's also got another new song,
so we're gonna have fun with that. Also, my voice

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is hard to like talk.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
I know mine is raspy and yours is hard. The
tourist should not be on television today.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
These are the moons I got for my birthday. We
actually celebrated my birthday two weeks ago.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Well only we did that because my daughters were going
back to Pennsylvania because of my daughter Leslie's new job,
she had to be there early. So we celebrated Jimmie's
birthday early and now, but today is a real day.
He's sixty one, mansion, I sleep with a sixty one
year old? Big yeah, doing I should be sleeping with

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her like a thirty year old. No, No, I don't
know what he's sixty one, sixty one.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
You could be my father was a sixty one year old. Yeah,
but you could be my father.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
You all don't have to be my uncle, my father anything.
Oh man.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Anyway, I got.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
A balloon between. It's a balloon.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Before Hello, you put him there.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
I love it beating the balloons up.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
So you're usually talk at the beginning.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
I'm not speaking over her again because you said I
don't speak loud enough.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Well, now you are speaking louder.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
No, I'm not speaking. It's all.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
It's all.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Next week. When is my movie coming out? October twenty fifth,
Clown Hotel, Three Ways the Hell comes out. We're inviting
people to the premiere right now.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
Yes, you have to come to this movie. He's got
one hundred and one clowns. No, but no movie has
ever made so many clowns. I don't know what it's
going to be like. I mean, it could be a
stampede of clouds. Which could be either ridiculous, scary, or
just stupid. And I'll let you know when I see
the movie. You know, we make movies and we don't

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see them for years because they have to be edited
and distributed, so we never know what our films are
like or how well we did or how well we
did not do.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
But we also saw a lot of you in the trailer.
And in the trailer you look great, do you think yes?

Speaker 4 (06:44):
Well? Can I tell you some people got it and
give it, can't give it away, and some have back
of some people got it and make it pay. Some
people can't even give it away. This person's got it
and this people spreading it around. You either got it
or you don't. Gypsy, Gypsy. I love the Broadway musical Gypsy.

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It was one of the best ever ever ever done. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
I just got a text message from your my stepdaughters,
your daughters, because we're trying to find out how to
get into the chat please and that's on the air
that we wish you both a happy anniversary and a
happy birthday and we love you both.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
So they may be joining us them in a minute.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Huh, who are they?

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Your daughters?

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Daughters.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
I don't have daughters.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
I no longer have children. I've given them a word.
I take them up.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
No, definitely have up for adoption.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
One is fifty five, one is fifty and you can
adopt them. Just go to Pennsylvania and adopt them, because
I no longer have daughters.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yes, I have a cold. Bea Claudia, hey me from
Germany has joined us. Do I have a cold? I
was up all night and I couldn't breathe and it
was terrible. And Leslie's in the chat room now, less
see who's she ah.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Leslie?

Speaker 3 (08:13):
So in the meantime, Hey, b beef Be's in Germany,
you guys, Lessie's in Pennsylvania. Bonds in California, and uh,
people are starting to come in. I think we're gonna
have a dig.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
And I'm here in Palm Springs, rotting away like a dog.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
No you're not, No, you're not.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
I'm rotting away. I have a broken heart.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
The sayings to feel better, so everybody in the chatter
says they hope you feel better, so I feel better.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
I just can't stand living here because it's boring. There's
nothing to do, nothing. Everybody's old. They can't even walk
or talk or breathe. They just stand there looking like
they're alive, but they're really not alive. They passed away
weeks ago, but they just stand there and the winds
blowed sand on them and they become statues. It's horrible.

(09:07):
Hoofspings is good for very young people. If you're like
thirty and handsome and gay. Wow, it's a whole house.
I mean, everybody's screwing everybody. It's at four parties. It's wild.
But if you're my age, which is younger than Jimmy,
it sucks. There's nothing to do. I don't want to

(09:28):
do all big functions. I don't want to do what
the old people do, literal they do. They don't do anything.
They sit in their houses and rot. Anyway, I'm getting
the hell out of here as soon as i can.
I'm going back to Boca.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
The losses. Okay, let's go. Come on, we gotta keep moving.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Keep moving your stories, keep moving for people to sleep.
I'm young to you.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
I give them a gossip so you can listen to it.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
Just go finish.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
I'm moving back to Boca without you. May because I
can stommach them anything, and that's it. Fourteen years was enough.
I mean I should get an award. Fourteen years with
him is like yes, Brown breaking a smile.

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Speaker 6 (11:01):
Enjoy everybody, Strange up things are happen by still see.

Speaker 7 (11:26):
You, bacame Li tonight.

Speaker 8 (11:28):
There so again.

Speaker 9 (11:35):
Were said the passing to the fare, then temptations.

Speaker 10 (11:42):
Of the.

Speaker 9 (11:44):
Saying it's a sorry keep passing to the fair form.

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Jolie looks to his Her secret lies.

Speaker 8 (12:08):
A wald in t the house.

Speaker 7 (12:14):
That's why it's not pa.

Speaker 8 (12:16):
He spent to Well, he's the answer.

Speaker 11 (12:24):
What's a passer to the t there's no time, the time.

Speaker 8 (12:33):
When there's not.

Speaker 11 (12:37):
One can't try class.

Speaker 8 (12:39):
Up to the fair.

Speaker 7 (12:46):
Nobody pass.

Speaker 8 (13:50):
There's no time. It's so.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Hey, everybody, that was right that closer to the flame.
Now we're going to bring on our first guest and
uh see if we can hear him, go ahead and
bring him in.

Speaker 12 (14:38):
Hey, did you hear me?

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, we can hear you. Perfect.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
I'm so glad to be here, guys, thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
So let me do a nice introduction for you and
now everybody, we want to welcome to the Jimmy Stars
Show with Varn Russell, Award winning director of producer, screenwriter, author.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
And also actor. Really because he sees you're an insight.

Speaker 13 (14:58):
You're in a bunch of movies, So Sam Rvan, Hello.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
And welcome to the show.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
Great, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
This is my cool, outrageous man about tack. Hosts Ron Russell.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Hey, hi, Ron, bracelet, look at my brace My bracelet
was a gift from Hub Hub What the hell was
Hub Reynolds Rennols a great singer, a Western guy, and
he was making these bracelets and their leather and whatever.
And I have to saw Texas.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
I saw it there.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
I don't know why, but I see you've got he's
got Flash Gordon. Oh no, oh no, what if you
got a flirt?

Speaker 5 (15:39):
Look that's a Flash Gordon right there?

Speaker 4 (15:40):
What does he drin over?

Speaker 5 (15:41):
There's a big statue. How big is that?

Speaker 3 (15:43):
That looks like it's about thirteen inches?

Speaker 5 (15:45):
Yeah, it's about that. I collect action figure out. This
is all right. This is our dining room, and we
call it curio Shop on Acid.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
So I collect action figures and movie memor bill. Yes,
I have the real I have times. But look at
that's a thirteen inch Flash Gordon.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
And you, frankis is that Egyptian queen back?

Speaker 10 (16:06):
Here?

Speaker 5 (16:06):
The model of her along with the painting behind it.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
I like it. Where did you get that flesh Gordon?

Speaker 5 (16:15):
It was made in the seventies.

Speaker 10 (16:16):
I used to have one and then somehow it disappeared,
and I found another one on eBay that was already
painted up and everything, and I got it back.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
Have a bunch of Flashboard.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
That's his favorite.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
You know, as a little boy growing up, I wanted
to be Buster Crab.

Speaker 5 (16:33):
Yeah, well I wanted to have Buster Crab.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
I wanted to have Buster Crab.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
I was only six or seven.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
Yeah, I probably felt the same way.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
But no, but I love Buster.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
I love flash He's my favorite Tarzan.

Speaker 10 (16:52):
He's my favorite Flashboard, and he's my favorite well, the
only Buck Rogers, I think, but he's my favorite all round.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
I absolutely love him.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Oh, I love him too. I'm a great fan of
Buster crips. But you know, I've met Ron who was
the second Flashboard. No, what's his name?

Speaker 5 (17:09):
Sam?

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Sam?

Speaker 3 (17:11):
We had Sam Sam Jones on our show who was one?

Speaker 5 (17:16):
And uh?

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Sam?

Speaker 4 (17:18):
And I told Sam Jones, I said, aren't you a
little ashamed of the picture you took by the rolls
Royce naked? Have you ever seen that picture?

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Show?

Speaker 5 (17:28):
I certainly have. It's quite famous.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Yes, it's quite.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
I mean he's a hung little son of a bitch,
and he was bothered about hanging that wangout.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
He told us the whole story while he saw the show.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
Yeah, so I wanted to say him, Will did the
talk of his jumping, But I wouldn't go out.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
He didn't.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
You know, I have a lot of things to talk
about with you, because go, wait.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
A minute, they're very openly gay, right, yes, very much.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
I have a husband that i've been forty three years.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
If you can believe it, how many forty three?

Speaker 5 (18:07):
Forty three years?

Speaker 3 (18:08):
I believe it.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
I would have been with my guy so who I
met at nineteen and i'm eighty five. I'm eighty five. Yeah,
you couldn't be so shit, where did that five come from?
But anyway, yes, it's a wonderful relationship.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
I'm with Jimmy. There's our anniversary, there's our fourteen year anniversary.

Speaker 10 (18:32):
Well, and it's also Jimmy's birthday birthday, yes, sixty, he's
sixty one, and I'm sleeping with an old man.

Speaker 5 (18:40):
Ah, there you go, there you go. Well, I'm riding
between you guys.

Speaker 10 (18:44):
I'm sixty nine, and it's my favorite year because it's
a full year of dirty jokes.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
Yes it is.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
I love you already, you're very I love your person.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
You're a very award winning off there. And I want
to talk about the book that's up there on the
counter right there.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
First, Yes, my brand new book.

Speaker 10 (19:07):
It's called Confessions of a Brian De Palma protege, how
I shadowed the director on The Fury, Dressed to Kill
and more, and this is all. This is my memoir
of my Palma years working as his assistant in New
York City.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
I grew up in South.

Speaker 10 (19:26):
Carolina, North Carolina, and I was a closeted gay teen
and the culture shock of moving from the South to
New York City to work for Brian to Palma also
became my coming out and everything. So this is a
memoir about my coming out, about working for De Palma,
the whole schmeer. And on the back there is a

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picture of me in nineteen seventy nine in the elevator
set with Angie Dickinson all bloody when she gets murdered
and Dressed to Kill. But the book is this huge
three hundred and fifty page book with one thousand photographs,
and it's an amazing study of the making of The

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Fury and Dressed to Kill.

Speaker 5 (20:11):
But also my.

Speaker 10 (20:12):
Memoir mixed Dean as well, and I talk about all
kinds of cool stuff. I talk about getting a blowjob
from Freddie Mercury.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
I talked about.

Speaker 10 (20:22):
All sorts of flirtations that happened with Vincent Price and
Trigue Williams and all kinds of things, John Travolta, you
name it.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
So there's all kinds of juicy stuff in here.

Speaker 10 (20:33):
And the book is available in hardback, paperback, ebook, and
audiobook on Amazon.

Speaker 13 (20:40):
So I want to talk about it a little bit because,
first of all, it's funny that The Fury is one
of my favorite movies.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yes, I've seen it a hundred times. We've had Andrew
Stevens on the show. Ron was friends with his mom.

Speaker 10 (20:54):
Yes, I directed his mom, O Stella in episodes of
Strip Mall that Julie Brown on Williams series on Comedy Central,
and Fellow was on there, and she was loved.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
Her Della loved the boys.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
Yes you did.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
And I love Andrew.

Speaker 10 (21:12):
You know, there's a brand new Cello Stevens documentary that
Andrew Stevens wrote and directed. I went to the screening
at the Linley Royal just a couple of weeks ago,
and I got I hadn't seen Andrew since The Fury,
you know, fifty years ago. And I got a picture
of us posed together with this book that he was

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very nice.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
How much is that book?

Speaker 10 (21:36):
The book is the paperback is forty, the hardback is
eighty choke and and then you can also get it
on Audible if you're a member of Audible, it's free.
And then there's an audio book. Come I'm sorry, Yes,
on Audible it's free. It's coming out any minute, literally

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like today or tomorrow, and the Audible audiobook.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
And it's also an e book on Kindle.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
I think it will make a fabulous coffee table book. Well, love,
the cover is so beautiful.

Speaker 10 (22:09):
All our pages, one thousand, over a thousand photographs.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Sam, let me do it. Push the cover of the
book to the camera so we could see it.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
It's a fabulous What is a batman?

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Who's there? All characters One.

Speaker 10 (22:29):
Dickinson and Michael Caine from Dressed to Kill, Kirk Douglas
from The Fury, John Cassavetti severed head from the.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
Fury floating there.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Here's them.

Speaker 5 (22:39):
The Phantom of the Paradise line.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
In and.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
Did you wait?

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Did you work on Phantom of the Paradise?

Speaker 10 (22:47):
I did not, but I became very good friends with
Bill Finley, who played the Phantom, and he starred in
one of my films, and and it was the film
that film and Sisters were the films that made me
fall in love with Brian and turned me into a
stalker to track him down and meet him, and I
brought him.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
I organized the very first to Brian U.

Speaker 10 (23:10):
Palmer Film Festival at my college at the University of
South Carolina, exactly fifty years ago next month, and I
called Brian.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
I got a phone number out of the.

Speaker 10 (23:25):
Trades for the casting office of Carrie. They were in
early pre production. I cold called the number and they
put him right on. I mean, that would never happen nowadays.
And I got him to come out to South Carolina
to this little festival that showed sister's fanom of the
Paradise and Greetings and early film he did with Robert
de Niro, whom he discovered.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
And.

Speaker 10 (23:48):
This is before Carrie, you know, before everything, And it
was the first first festival of its kind, and he
came out. He was very impressed that I was this
enterprising young kid, and I ended up getting hired to
work as his assistant on the Fury in between my
junior and senior year when they were shooting during the summer,
and then when I graduated in the spring of seventy eight,

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he called me up and offered me a job to
come work for him in New York. And I was
the associate producer and production manager of Home Movies, which
was a low budget comedy that he did between the
Fury and Dressed to Kill that.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
Starred Kirk Douglas and Nancy Allen.

Speaker 10 (24:28):
And then I was his assistant on Dress to Kill
and worked with him in pre production on Blowout and everything.
Then he assigned me to produce a coming of age
film with another protege of his directing, and it was
called The First Time and it had Wendy Joe Sperber
while as Sean Jane Badler.

Speaker 5 (24:51):
A whole bunch of really great people.

Speaker 10 (24:53):
Didn't do anything, but it was new line cinem Yeah
it's an obscure one, but it's a really cool little
film and.

Speaker 5 (25:03):
Discovered because of the Paradise.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Was the very first movie I was ever allowed to
go see by myself, you know, as a kid, and
I loved it.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
I did too.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
And of course you remember you remember this? Do you
remember this?

Speaker 10 (25:15):
The the spoof of Psycho The shower scene, yes, where
Beef played by Garrett Graham, the androgynous rock star, is
taking a shower with a shower cap on, and you
see this figure coming in through the translucent.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
Shower curtain, just like you know Norman Bates.

Speaker 10 (25:34):
And then all of a sudden, the thing, you know,
the curtains wooshes back, and he and Beef starts to scream,
and suddenly a plunger instead of a knife, it's a
it's a toilet plunger goes goes to silence.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
His scream, and and here you'll see that we did
this cartoon. It's fantastic with the plunger.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
I think that like like, so, those are three of
my favorite movies. Dressed to Kill freak me out at
the end of it. I've seen in a million times.
I'm a big horror movie guy.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
Yeah. So my best friend Perry Winkler, Lee Winkler's ex wife,
Uh huh. If you know who, Lee Winkler was the
head of Global. He was the number one man in
Beverly Hills.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
And Angi lived next door. Oh wow, that's so cool.
And Angie was great.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
I'll tell you a funny story about Angie.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
She loves Italian.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
We had.

Speaker 10 (26:33):
There was a very very gay hairdresser, surprise surprise work
he got Dressed to Kill. His name was Joe Crenzano,
and I loved him. He cracked us all up, you know,
he was sort of he reminded me of Paul Land
and he I went with him up to Angie's apartment
where she at that time she was still with sort

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of with Burt Backrack. They were married, but they were
kind of separated and they ended up getting divorced about
a year later. But it was I think it was
actually Burt Backrack's apartment, But anyway, we went over there.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
And he was looking. She wanted to show him her
hair pieces.

Speaker 10 (27:13):
And so I was waiting in the living room while
he went back to the bedroom with her, and she
was showing them all these things. And when we got done,
we went out into the hallway we're waiting for the elevator,
and he said to.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Me, Sam, you won't believe it.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
She has so many hair pieces.

Speaker 14 (27:31):
She's put them all on mannequin heads, and they're in rows,
and she's named them like they're her children.

Speaker 10 (27:44):
And then he just does this, He just turns on
his heel and does this very dramatic exit before I
can respond.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
You actually know, have done a bunch of stuff with
people that actually, like Ron knows or nose like you
have another book. I was a teenage monster hunter. How
I met Vincent Price, Christopher Lee, put Peter Cushingen Moore
Ron did a movie with Vincent Price, Christopher Lee at
a party that's so.

Speaker 5 (28:12):
Fantastic, Well, Vince I met.

Speaker 10 (28:15):
I mean, this book is a When I was a teenager,
I mean there was a big monster kid growing up.
When I was a teenager, I did a fanzine on
called Bizarre on horror movies, and I interviewed thirty five
horror film royalty. I even got my parents to send
me as a high school graduation gift to London where

(28:36):
Christopher Lee. I got to spend the day with him
on the set The Man with the Golden Gun and
watched them shoot with Roger Moore and Brett Ecklund and
Maud Adams. And it was directed by Die Hamilton, who
did Goldfinger, which is my favorite Bond film, and and
herve Villa says was playing Christopher Lee's little sidekick. And

(28:57):
it was the most amazed, one of the most amazing
days of my life, probably the most amazing day of
my life.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
And then you tolerate chrisphally for more than ten minutes.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
Oh, the whole day, the entire day with him, and you.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Didn't want to kill yourself.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
Every he was he was so generous and nice to me.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
It was you were so neurotic and so crazy.

Speaker 5 (29:23):
I went.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
I said to him, excuse me, I said to him
at a party, kindly and nicely, Christopher, you were the
best Tracy'll there ever was.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
Oh, that's.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
Excuse me, man, I finished, And he turned around and said,
in an evil voice, I've done more than drac yall. Yeah,
it was an erotic, insane actor. And his wife said,
forgive him. I said, fuck him. I'm not going to
forgive him. I was really nice to him, and I
don't like Christopher ly and I couldn't care more about him.

(29:58):
You were very lucky, so I had spent a day
with him. He must have liked you sexually, Yeah, who knows.

Speaker 10 (30:05):
Maybe the thing was that he was doing He was
very happy to not be doing a Dracula or horror film,
so he was in the really good mood because he
was playing the villain in a big you know, James
Bond movie, a big budget movie. So he was very
proud of this and showing off. And he gave me

(30:26):
a tour of all the sets, and you know, so
that's why he was in such a great mood. It
was it was so much it was him, maybe, you know,
breaking out of the mold of the of the Hammer
films that he was doing. But then that night, you
would think that would be enough for one fan boy
for one day, but no, that night I wanted to
go see Pygmalion on the West End because it starred

(30:49):
Diana Rigg as Eliza Doolittle. And of course I was
a fan of Diana rig as em Appeal in the
Avengers TV series. I was a fan of her in
the James Bond film on Her Majesty's Secret Service, but
particularly I was a fan of hers playing Vincent Price's
daughter in Theater of Blood, which is one of my
favorite films. So on, I got a really good ticket.

(31:12):
I'm sitting now waiting for the show to start, and
I hear this very familiar laugh behind me, and I
turn around and the guy says, Sam, what are you
doing here? And it's freaking Vincent Price. But I had
already met him three or four times and we had
become friends. I'd met when I was fourteen, and I

(31:33):
told him I wanted to be Tyia Raggan. He said,
when you're coming backstage with me after the show, and
he took me back and introduced me to Diana and
I got to interview her and he was amazing, and
I became very very close friends with Vincent. He was
just the nicest, most wonderful person. I developed a film

(31:54):
that was going to star Vincent and his then wife
Coral Brown, but we never got it off the ground.
We never got the money together. But it was actually
scripted for us by Brian Clemens, who was the creator
and writer of the Avengers TV series that had starred
Diana Rigg.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
And I was very good friends with Jane Russell to
are buddies, and Price was her very dearest friend, yes,
and she adored him. And I found Incent Price to
be the wittiest, sweetest man in the business.

Speaker 10 (32:28):
I loved him incredible and very very very sweet man.
But he was very enamored with me, very honestly, and
he invited me for a weekend up to Westport when
he was doing the Oscar Wild Show, and things got
very flirtatious. But at that time I was still closeted,

(32:49):
I was still married to a woman. I was married
to a woman for six years before I met my husband,
and I was working for the bomber. It was actually
a month before Addressed to Kill started shooting. We were
in pre production on Dress to Kill, and I just
and I was in the middle of developing this film
with Vincent that was going to star Vincent and Coral,

(33:10):
and I just got very nervous. And I was like,
if if Coral found out, oh gosh, you know, if
anybody found out I was gay, oh gosh. And I
so I turned him down. I regretted to this day,
but we still remained friends. And a few years later,
after I had come out, I ran into him and

(33:31):
blew in Bloomingdale's in New York and he and again
he said, Sam, what are you doing here? And I said,
looking for Christopher Lee, of course, and he laughed. And
then I said, and Vincent, I want to introduce you
to my boyfriend, Gary Bauers. And this was the first time,
you know, he was putting two together that I was like, Okay,

(33:51):
now you're out. You must be divorced from your wife,
blah blah blah. And he looked at Gary and he said,
so you're the lucky one there.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
You go, well, so what did you actually go to
school for? When you went to school?

Speaker 10 (34:06):
I went to the University of Carolina and majored in
Media arts, which was you know, radio, TV and movies.
But my I always say that my true education was
working for DePalma and actually being on set and actually
doing it and watching him develop his films, do the
pre production, do the storyboards. He was very much like Hitchcock.

(34:30):
He planned everything in advance down.

Speaker 5 (34:33):
To the tee. And and that's where I learned how
to be a director was from DiPalma, for sure. And
you know also did so.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
I asked Ryan, because I don't know who Kay Thompson is.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
You did a book.

Speaker 13 (34:45):
I did see your plug on Turn Movies for the book.

Speaker 10 (34:49):
Yes, my very first book was called Kay Thompson from
Funny Face to Eloise. And she was the author of
the Eloise children's books. That I know is a little
Girl at the Plaza, but she was. She starred in
Funny Face with Audrey Eperna and Freda Stair. She plays
the magazine Fashion magazine editor and she opens the film
with Think Pink and she does the duet with with

(35:11):
fred and yeah, Freda Stair called Clap your Hands and
completely steals that number.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
And then she does a number with Audrey called on
How to Be Lovely.

Speaker 10 (35:24):
I mean, she just she blows through that movie like
a cyclone and is unbelievably great.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
And she was one of the greatest performers in film
who never got the notoriety that most shot. And you
know why.

Speaker 10 (35:41):
She started out behind the scenes at MGM. She was
head of the vocal department. She coached and wrote arrangements
for Judy Garland, Lena Horne, Frank.

Speaker 5 (35:53):
Sinatra, all the greats.

Speaker 10 (35:55):
She was Judy Garland's very, very best friend and became
and when Judy had line, so she became the godmother
of Liza Minelli and they were best friends forever and
Ka Kay lived with Liza the last twenty years of
her life. And Kay took Liza under her wing when
Judy died and and said, Liza, you cannot go through

(36:18):
life being known as the daughter of Judy Garland. You
we have to brand you, we have to we have
to make your own image. And she introduced her to Halston,
who was who was Kay's best friend. She got Joe Eula,
the great artist fashion artist, to design all of her
posters that were very stylish and very much branding and

(36:41):
and she and she gave her the bob haircut that
that is so so familiar.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
And she really molded Liza to be the Liza Minelli
that we all know.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
And that was Kay.

Speaker 5 (36:54):
And she she did everything. She She directed the inaugural
The All Star Are inaugural Galla of John F. Kennedy.

Speaker 10 (37:02):
I mean, she did all these amazing things. She directed
the most important fashion show of the twentieth century at Versailles,
and it was introducing all of these great American designers
like Pierre Codan and others who had never been accepted
on the international stage.

Speaker 5 (37:21):
And it changed everything in nineteen seventy three. And she
had Liza opened the show.

Speaker 10 (37:26):
Was right when Liza had won the Oscar for Cabaret,
and she had Eyes Liza open and closed the show.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
And you the reviews, it was. It was seismic, It
was unbelievable.

Speaker 10 (37:39):
Every person in the fashion world will tell you this
was the game changer and Kay was part of that
and responsible for it. So this book is all about
the unsung heroine that she is. And it came out
in twenty ten and it was I had a huge
publishing deal for Simon and Schuster, the one of the

(38:01):
largest publishers in the world. It got excerpted in Vanity
Fair and also Liza Minelli got excited and she recreated
Kate Thompson's Nightclub Act, which was Kate Thompson and the
Williams brothers. It was little Andy Williams and his three
brothers because kay Kay not only discovered Andy Williams but
had a secret affair with him for twenty years before

(38:23):
he got together with Claudia MG and they and they
they had the biggest nightclub act in the world. That's
why she's just why she why people don't know her
is that the nightclub Act was never filmed.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
It just like disappeared into the ether.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
And she was beautiful enough. Glad No, she wasn't.

Speaker 5 (38:43):
She wasn't traditionally beautiful, but there have been a lot
of stars who weren't.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
Traditionally before you came on the show that we're supposed
to be like in Brooklyn having Colby and Crum and
Anjamin's Clumb Kate. It's a conversation show. We always because
there's things we want to get in and out of.
So let's make believe we're having coffee in Brooklyn and

(39:06):
a from Kke my favorite now maybe oh. I wanted
to promote K because he was a wonderful dancer and singer.
She just was too tall, too lengthy, and not beautiful
enough to be a star. And that was a sad part.
Hollywood doesn't look at talent sometimes they only look at salability.

(39:29):
She wasn't salable, you know that. And I love that
movie in my Heart and when she sings Pink and
all those songs, they go crazy because they're wonderful. They're
classic pieces of work. So okay, my private applause to you.

Speaker 5 (39:47):
Exactly.

Speaker 10 (39:48):
Well, Liza got excited when the book was coming out
and decided to recreate K's Nightclub back, which he did
on Broadway, in a show called Liza's at the Palace.
She wanted to call it Kay Thompson at the Palace
starring Liza Minelli, but the investor said, no, it's got
to be Eliza show.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
But it was.

Speaker 5 (40:08):
It was Liza as Kay.

Speaker 10 (40:10):
Thompson and she had four boys playing the Williams brothers,
and they recreated all of k songs and that nightclub act.
I worked on it as a historical consultant and it
won the Tony Award for Best Theatrical Event of the Year.
And when Liza accepted the award at Radio City Music Hall,
she had the shortest speech. She said, I want to

(40:31):
thank my parents for the most important gift they ever
gave me, Kay Thompson, my godmother.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
That was a wonderful, beautiful, wonderful. Yeah, I'm sorry I
never met Kate. She was floating around Hollywood when I
was there, but not where I was going. And I
really wanted to meet her years ago. I would have
liked it.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Was she nice.

Speaker 5 (40:57):
I didn't meet her myself. She died in ninety eight,
but she was very.

Speaker 10 (41:06):
Reclusive in those last years that where she was living
at Liza's place, and she was dead ridden for the
last few and so you know, I just unfortunately didn't
get to meet her.

Speaker 5 (41:17):
But I just fell in love with her.

Speaker 10 (41:19):
With all of her work, I became a detective trying
to find out all the things that people didn't know
about her.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
Yeah, she was one of those mistakes of Hollywood, I believe. Yeah,
And they promoted her. I mean, and Milla had it
all and are you Annie? And Annie was a sweet,
sweet person. The loveliest person, but she was a cunt
when it came when it came to other women that

(41:48):
could dance, will work. She protected her image and she
protected her work with vengeance. So nobody, I mean and
I love any talking bad about it. She's a lovely
she was a lovely woman, just very don't you ever
mentioned oh well truer.

Speaker 10 (42:10):
Yes, yeah, well you know, Kay also had you know,
she was her own She could be her own worst enemy.
She was very much of a control freak. She didn't
trust people to get they She turned down so many offers.
Oh my god, there were so many great things that
she could have done. She was offered the role of

(42:33):
Vera Charles and Anti Name with Rosalind Russell. She was
also offered it later when Lucy Obald in the musical movie.
It was probably very wise that she did turn that
one down, But but she was she was always afraid
that that she wouldn't people wouldn't have her back. And

(42:57):
when she did Funny Face, because it was produced by
Roger Eatons, who was her best friend at MGM.

Speaker 5 (43:04):
The movie ended up being made at.

Speaker 10 (43:07):
Paramount, but it was actually developed at MGM, and the
people that she was surrounded with were all of her friends,
and she knew that they would have her back, and
that was.

Speaker 5 (43:19):
Yeah, she felt safe.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
Every shame talent wasted. I know, I know many stars
of the B movies because that's where I was in
those days, in the B movie circuit, and so many talented,
talented people. And I would say to the producers, but
why doesn't somebody say says, no, she doesn't have it?

Speaker 3 (43:43):
The fuck is that?

Speaker 4 (43:43):
I said? But Rita Hayworth has it, Yes she does.
Marilyn Monroe had it, but not every actress has it,
but they my favorite. And she was a big dyke
that I loved.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Her, and I knew her in her old age, wow.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
Through her brother. Her brother was a materior designer gay
and she was gay.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
I don't know if you're talking about it.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
I don't know if I want to do it.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
Okay, Well, then anyway, she was.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
She was best blonde gunboll post stars there was, and
she never ever made it to great stardom although she
played with Humphrey Bogart, she played with all the big stars.
Elizabeth Scott. Okay, yes, okay, I know she was Elizabeth Scott.

(44:42):
I knew in her old age and I said, I
had the balls to say that to her. You never
became Arita Hayworth or a Hey Lamar. She said, Ron,
they wouldn't let me. They just wouldn't. They wouldn't. Hollywood
holds back. You know about that they do. We should

(45:03):
write a book together about holding back. I mean, I
know so many stars and all the secrets because I
was friends with so many people.

Speaker 13 (45:13):
I want to go to something younger that other people
would know, because I didn't when I had you come.
When I actually asked you to come on the show,
I didn't know that you were a director. You've worked
with tons of people that actually remember.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
There's a book of knowledge that you shouldn't me. He's wonderful.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
So besides Alvarro's Haunted Hills, which I actually was at
a convention with a bunch of people and went to
dinner with with Cassandra Peterson.

Speaker 5 (45:39):
Oh my god, I love her so much.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
I used to be a celebrity clothing designer and I
made one of a kind clothes and I would go
to conventions and give the clothes away. That's how I
built this show back eighteen. No, but you also did
all three seasons of Dante's Cove not that that was
probably the most groundbreaking gay soap op brother had ever
been done.

Speaker 15 (46:02):
Yes, and the people in it, you know, it's got
some huge people.

Speaker 5 (46:07):
First of all, Rob was friends with Gill, still my
buddy Gill. I love her.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Steven Emmel from Arrow, you know, he's a big star now.
Aileen des is a friend of ours. Jenny Schmitzu, who
I almost had on the show a couple of times.
It just didn't work out. But I'm a big fan
of hers because my favorite Angelina Joelene movie is the
one with Jenny Schmitzu in it.

Speaker 5 (46:31):
It's my.

Speaker 13 (46:34):
Yes Boo Boo Stewart's like Twilight Stars.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
As you mentioned the name, the star comes up. Angelina.
Julie lived around the corner from me in Beverly Hills
and played with my daughter Deirdre and was in my
house all the time, jumping from the bunk friends down
and Woodmark was my neighbor and he hated my daughter.
And my daughter would be in the pool in front

(47:03):
of the house and the kids, you know, they screamed,
and Angie would come over and she'd be screaming with Deirdra,
and Richard came and he knocked on the gate, and
he said, could you keep those kids? What did he say?
Something nasty? But he's a bastard. He said, could you
keep those brats quiet? I said, well, I certainly tell
the one brat when when her father comes to pick

(47:25):
her up, I said, because her father is.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
I lost his name, you know, Angielina John?

Speaker 4 (47:35):
I said because his father. I said, because his father
her father is John Voight. Well he never again complained
about that because I told John voy When John tents
to pick Angie up, I said, listen, John, tell that
fuck of my next door that is Richard widmock By.

(47:57):
Then stomach that he said, Oh, I certainly.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Wrote how was doing that? So Doc Dashkobra, What was
the other show, the other gay show that Joya did
all the music for a lot that Tayo was in.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
What was Tayo's show she was originally in that was
really popular? Okay, Queer's folks. Queer's Folks, Yes, okay, So.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
I have a lot of musical friends and Joya Bruno
from Expos did a bunch of songs for that show.
But how I was doing because basically that was the
second that was like the second biggest, like kind of
like gay soap operating kind of thing.

Speaker 5 (48:37):
How was it working on that? Because it was way
above the time it was.

Speaker 10 (48:40):
It was really ahead of his time, and it was
so much fun to do. We did three seasons. I
directed every episode. We did the first season in the
Caribbean on Grand Turk, which sounds very glamorous, but and
it looked glamorous on Cara Bra but the island at
that time was a pit.

Speaker 5 (49:01):
Literally, if you were looking at the beach in the ocean,
it looked lush.

Speaker 10 (49:04):
Turned the camera around and looked inland, it was like,
you know, muddy dirt roads and cows and it was
so it was rough and literally if we needed a paper.

Speaker 5 (49:15):
Clip, it had to be flown in. There was just
nothing there.

Speaker 10 (49:18):
So that for the season two and three we did
them in Hawaii and it was much more glamorous and
we were put up at the Turtle Bay Resort on
north shore of Wahoo and it was fabulous. But Stephen
and Mill was only in the first season and then
he got a David Attenborough movie I forget the name

(49:39):
of it, and and he just he was like, I've
got is David Attenborough.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
I have to go do it.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
And I said, yes you do, and we love you,
but yeah, you need to do that.

Speaker 10 (49:50):
And of course it didn't turn out to be the
hit or anything, but it certainly got him, you know,
on on the road to fame, and he became, as
you say, you know, the arrow and now he's a
huge huts.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Big Yeah, I'm a big superhero. Yeah guy. And we've
actually had John Barreman, he who lives here also and
he's a friend of ours.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
I just saw John.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
Actually you probably know John Berriman, right, I know of him,
but I don't know.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
I just saw him a couple of weeks ago with
Home People.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Yeah, he's always everywhere, but he's been I said to him.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
What are you doing here in home People, Honey?

Speaker 3 (50:25):
It's funny because and he was walking around.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
I said, there's nothing interesting. Go home.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
I think we've had we've had eight shows, break ten
million plays, and.

Speaker 5 (50:33):
He was the first one to break down.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
Wow, I love you. I love him. He came on
a show and the show opened and he was tongue
kissing a rubber a doll, one of those women.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Like a mannequin, like a mannequin.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
And when I saw him at Home Depot, I said,
so what's new? He said, my feet are killing me.
I've been in high heels. Holy, oh my god, he's crazy.
You have got to know John. John is a wonder like,
oh he is adult. I love him.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
So then here's some other movie because you're a big director, Like,
I didn't know you were a big director. You guys.

Speaker 10 (51:09):
I've directed over fifty films and produced another twenty five.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
So here's some of the things, you guys, that he has.
I wrote down the ones that maybe there was a
six degree of separation. He did a film Guiltiest Charged
with Isaac Kayes, Heather Graham, Rod Steiger and Lauren Hutton.
Oblivion and Oblivion too. And I bring it up because
Wan's friends with Julie Newmoar, Maxwell Caufield, George da Kai
and Meg Foster. Isaac cays a very cool Christmas I

(51:37):
Donna Wills. We had Donna Mills on last year. She
was a great guest.

Speaker 5 (51:41):
Yes, Oh my god, I love Donna.

Speaker 13 (51:45):
She was really good.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Kiss him a Stranger with Diane Cann, David Caerdine and
Mary all Hemingway.

Speaker 5 (51:50):
Didn't you dance with Mary all Hemingway at a club
one time?

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (51:53):
Yeah, Markhampton, I was with my boyfriend of the day
and suddenly this big, tall woman comes in front of
me and starts dancing with me. She said, I liked
the way, and it was mirror, it was her and
we hung out and we became friends. So every time
we saw each other Marrakesh, you know, we would hook up.

(52:13):
I love you Americas in.

Speaker 5 (52:15):
Thehamptons, Yeah, absolutely, I love.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
I love Marrakesh. All the good clubs are gone. That's
why I know.

Speaker 13 (52:26):
You did a lot of stuff with Isaac Kyes though
when I'm looking at it, any movie.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
I loved.

Speaker 10 (52:35):
He was wonderful. And we took him to Romania for
Oblivion one and two, and he fell in love with
the Romanian girl and she was wanting to get her visa.
You know, she wanted to marry him so she could
come to America. There's all this drama. It was hilarious
and anyway he was, he was great. I just loved
him to death. He did got from he is charged.

(53:00):
I got him to I said, Isaac, we don't have
any money, but I want an ending theme song. Let's
let's pick a public domain song that we don't have
to pay for. And what about He played a preacher
in that, and I said, why.

Speaker 5 (53:15):
Don't you do an Isaac Kay's version of Amazing Grace?

Speaker 10 (53:19):
And he said, oh my god, that's a great idea,
and he did it and some of the Indian credits
it's it's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Well, and probably your biggest well known thing then would
be that you worked on Gods and Monsters, which was
an Academy Award. I love that fabulous sir Ian McKellan,
who's like, for me, you know, he's a great actor,
but for me, he's also magneto since I like.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
The Superhrio exactly.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Brendan Fraser, Lynn Redgrave, what a great you know that was?

Speaker 5 (53:48):
That was an amazing film.

Speaker 10 (53:50):
And and you know, my very favorite horror film of
all time, My favorite film of all time is Brian Frankenstein,
which was directed by the openly gay director James Whale.

Speaker 5 (54:01):
Well. Ian McAllen plays James Whale.

Speaker 10 (54:04):
In God's and Monsters and then yes there's a flashback
of him directing Brider Frankenstein. And we had an actress
who looked just like Elsa Lanchester with the beehive hare
and I helped make sure that the laboratory set that
we built for it was absolutely accurate. And we even
found some of the original electrical equipment that had been

(54:25):
used in the original Frankenstein and Bride of Frankenstein designed
by Kenneth Strickfadden, that mel Brooks had found and reused
in Young Frankenstein. Anyway, that was a dream come true project,
let me tell you it was.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
I was.

Speaker 10 (54:40):
I feel so honored to have been a part of it.
And it was written and directed by Bill Condon, based
on a book by Christopher Braand. But Bill Condon went
on to you know, huge things. I mean, he wrote,
he wrote Chicago, he wrote and directed dream Girls. He's
just written and directed because of the Spider Woman. He
did two of the Twilight the last two Twilight films,

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which grossed over a billion dollars each. And he you know,
I mean, his his career is amazing. But I'm really
really proud of Gods and Monsters.

Speaker 5 (55:14):
For sure.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
It was a great movie, thank you.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
So you know what was so great about it It
had never been done. It wasn't an old movie or
an idea or something stolen from an old movie.

Speaker 10 (55:27):
Yeah, I believe very original. It was very original, for sure.
It was a new writing, right, Yeah, it was based
on a book called Father of Frankenstein, which was a
sort of a fictional version of James Wales's later retirement days,
and how he is now an artist in his older
age and he becomes enamored with this his straight beautiful

(55:54):
gardener played by Brendan Fraser, and he wants to pose
for him, and he agreed, and during the posing for
his portrait, they developed this friendship and realize they have
so much in common.

Speaker 5 (56:08):
And it's a it's a really beautiful, beautiful film. I'm
just so proud of it. It's it's really wonderful. I'll
tell you something. I'll tell you a funny story.

Speaker 10 (56:17):
We you know, Brendan Frasier up to that time is
mostly known for comedies, and he was just about to
have Georgia the Jungle was about to open and all
that stuff, and I thought, you know, oh, he's going
to be the cut up and the hilarious guy on set.
And Ian McKellen at that time was mainly known as
Shakespearean actor, you know, this great, very serious Shakespearean actor

(56:39):
from the stage in London and everything, and I thought
that he'd be very serious and and of course it
was the exact opposite.

Speaker 5 (56:48):
Ian was the cut.

Speaker 10 (56:50):
Up on set, and and Brendan this was his first
really serious dramatic role really and and being you know,
opposite Ian McKay Helen. He he was just being very
serious and method and constantly alone in his trailer studying
his lines. And you know, he didn't he was probably

(57:10):
normally very humorous and on set, but not on this one.
He was taking it really seriously. So it was quite funny.
The contrast.

Speaker 5 (57:20):
That's great.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
I found that to be with so many people that
I know in the business. Joan Rivers, who I've spent
private time with, was not funny, not at all, not
at all. She was the most serious, intelligent woman, but
the minute she was on she was crazy and hysterical.
But that person I was looking for, that vulgar personality.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
She wasn't like that.

Speaker 5 (57:48):
She was a lady. She was so so refined actually,
when actually she was very.

Speaker 4 (57:53):
Very very well educated and very kind, vising her company
many many, many times. One fair story, I went to
the comedy club to hear Joan Rivers. Uh, Joan Rivers
do her act and if we in the audience wrote
it on paper, if we didn't like it, we told
her we didn't like the joke, and Debbie Reynolds was there,

(58:15):
and I know Debbie for one hundred years. So I'm
sitting next to Debbie and Debbie saying, no, that one sucks.
So now we leave, and Debbie said, don't go away,
don't go away. I want to talk to you for
a minute. Jane Russell called me, so she pulls me
in her limo, and then who comes in the limo
but Joan Rivers. I'm sitting between de Wie Reynolds and

(58:36):
Joan Rivers. I had a dollar for every fuck they said.
I would have been a rich man. The two of
them were like disgusting. They insulted each other. They're stupid.
They did a whole routine because they loved each other.
And I finally I had to get o that limo
because I was going to vomit. I couldn't stop happening.
So I said, what do you want? What did Jane want?

(58:57):
She said, oh, Jane wants a new roof for church
and she wants to know if I could do it
a benefit. I said, okay. She said, okay, call me tomorrow.
So I called Debbie the next day, Ron, I can't
talk to you my dog just died. I said, it's hidding.
She said, no, she died last night. And she said
call me tomorrow. So I called her the next day.

(59:20):
She said, Ron, I can't talk. My daughter's outside with
the funeral. It was hysterical. Finally we got to have
dinner and we talked about the show we did.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
They were a riot, the two of them were. You know,
I love my people and I tell Jimmy all the time.
He said, why you said, Ron? I said, because I'm gone.
My friends are gone. There are no people. I know
a lot of young actors and they stink selfish and
stupid and not glad, not interesting. I said, I don't

(59:58):
know why my people have you? Uh and class and style.
You went to the home, they offered you a drink
or something to eat or comfort these young kids. You
go to the house and what you want to stick
a part in my face? Let's get the ship.

Speaker 5 (01:00:17):
And you have two other books. Because I have a question.
I want to want.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
You know, mister did you know mister Blackwell?

Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
I of course knew of him, but I never met him.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
Oh what a shame. He screwed Carry Grant and Randolph Scott.
He was in dressing in their three way. And he
also was in love with your Own Power, who he
went out with for six months, and your Own Power
gave him a beautiful couplings in a red velvet box
and broke up with him. Blackwell tried to kill himself.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
He told me this.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
I was very good friends with Richard. He and I
were buddies, and he told me stories about the who's
who gay of Hollywood. But five digitive book, nobody would
believe it. It was like every woman in Hollywood that
was famous was a lesbian of some sort. Yeah, Hedy
Lamar and Rita Hayward. No, he Ela on Lana Turner,

(01:01:13):
We're getting it on. I said, you got to be
cutting me Hedy Lamar and Lana. He said, I don't lie.
I know what I'm talking about. He was questions at Maywest.
I mean he really knew Hollywood.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
That's amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
How on, let's go back because we only have a
couple of minutes, and I want to ask the question,
my regular question on the verse. So you have another
couple of books. I just want to like put them
all in for everybody. The epic saga behind Frankenstein, the
true story, Yes, that was huge.

Speaker 10 (01:01:43):
It's a huge making of of a favorite Frankenstein adaptation
called Frankenstein The True Story from nineteen seventy three. The
Universal made for NBC started James Mason, Agnes Moorehead, Sir
Ralph Richardson, Sir John Gilgood, David McCollum, Jane Seymour, Michael.

Speaker 5 (01:02:02):
Sarah is in huge, huge cast.

Speaker 10 (01:02:05):
And it was the film that inspired Anne Rice to
write Interview with the Vampire, So I got her to
write the forward. And it's one of Germo del Toro's
favorite Frankenstein films, and I got him to write the afterword.
It's four hundred pages with one thy, five hundred photos,

(01:02:25):
and the whole story is it's all about how this
movie is the gayest Frankenstein film ever made. It was
scripted by Chris the most famous gay couple ever, Christopher
Isherwood and his partner Don McCarty. Isherwood wrote the Berlin
stories that Cabaret was based on, and he also wrote

(01:02:48):
a single man, wonderful novelist, brilliant writer, and they conspired
to put in as much gay subtext into this movie
and the producer was all for it.

Speaker 5 (01:03:00):
He was gay as well.

Speaker 10 (01:03:02):
Hunt Stromberg Junior, whose dad Hunter did the Women the
Thin Man movies, you know, all these great MGM movies.
And that's where the Sun grew up. And he was
a big monster kid. He the son the Gay Sun,
discovered Vampira and created and directed and wrote and produced

(01:03:26):
her first hosting.

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
Show for.

Speaker 10 (01:03:30):
KABC in Los Angeles in nineteen fifty four, which started
the whole trend of horror hosts. So he's the grand
he's the granddaddy of horror hosts. And then he was
head of programming for CBS where he greenlit The Monsters,
the Twilight Zone, Alfred Distruck.

Speaker 5 (01:03:49):
Presents, Gilligan's Island.

Speaker 10 (01:03:52):
All these iconic shows were all because of Hunt Stromberg
Junior had gay, you know, his gay stamp on everything.
And then he became an independent producer and his lifelong
dream was to make an epic Frankenstein film, and that's
what this is. And they called themselves the Lavender Hill Mob,
and they literally were squeezing in as much gay subtext

(01:04:13):
as the censors and NBC would allow. And uh, and
you know, it's an amazing, amazing film. It holds up
like you wouldn't believe. It's an absolutely beautiful three hour production.
The title again, it's the title of the movie. Was
Frankenstein the True Story? Worst title in the world. It
was NBC's title. They didn't shoot it under that title.

(01:04:35):
It was called it was just called Doctor Frankenstein when
they when they shot it. It has nothing to do
with a true story. It's not it's not a true story,
and it's not true to Mary Shelley's novel because it's
totally gay. Every all the characters edited are gay. James
Mason's character is gay, Doctor Rostein Monster is gay. Everybody's

(01:04:56):
gay movie.

Speaker 4 (01:04:59):
I loved inf Yes, I know, I know of a
person who so at a big AF favorite.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
So wait a second, So where do people get all
your books?

Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
Where do they go? They can? All of them are
on Amazon.

Speaker 10 (01:05:10):
And this book is called the epic saga behind Franken's
Found Your True Story.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
And Sam Again, what is the cost of that book?

Speaker 10 (01:05:19):
Well, this one is expensive. I think it's the paperback.
The paperbacks are usually forty and the hardbacks are eighty.
Somewhere in that neighborhood that the hardbacks have better a
little bit better quality paper and everything. So if you
you know, if you have deep pockets and you want
the hardback, get the eighty dollars. But if you're on
a budget, to get the budget version, which is the

(01:05:41):
paperback for forty and.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
You also have a graphic novel, right I do?

Speaker 12 (01:05:48):
I have this.

Speaker 10 (01:05:50):
I have an alter ego, and you love superheroes. My
superhero alter ego is called Captain Camouflage because I have
a fetish for camouflage and I always have a camouflage
Day on the sets of my movies where I have
everybody dressing camouflage and we give out awards for the
best dressed. And so people started to call me Captain Samouflage,

(01:06:15):
and they even got like my director's chair with Captain
Samouflage name on the back and stuff. And I decided,
you know what, I'm going to lean into this and
turn it into a superhero. So last year I did
this my origin story, which is called Captain's Samouflage and
the Frankin sam Scam, and it's a little parody of

(01:06:36):
those little Golden books and it's all about how I
became this superhero. And the villain is played by a
guy that looks just like Peter Lourie and there are
all these movie references in it. And we won in
June of this year, we won the Graphic Novel of
the Year and the Artist one Artist of the Year.

Speaker 5 (01:06:54):
I'm so proud of it. And we're right now working
on the sequel.

Speaker 10 (01:06:58):
And then I have the first storybook parody I did
was during COVID and it's also a parody of those
little Golden books.

Speaker 5 (01:07:07):
And Peter Lourie is in this.

Speaker 10 (01:07:09):
As well, and it's called Sam's Toilet Paper Caper, and
it's me trying to find toilet paper during the toilet
paper shortage, and Peter Peter Laurie plays the grocery store attendant.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
I love it.

Speaker 13 (01:07:21):
So here's my question.

Speaker 5 (01:07:22):
Because we only have like two or three minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:07:24):
I want to listen, Sam, I love you. You got
to come back.

Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
I know there's too much to talk about. I have
too many, too many, too much.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
You are you listen? You must document all of what
you're saying. Because Hollywood today doesn't know our Hollywood.

Speaker 5 (01:07:42):
I know it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
I tried. It's so hard to bring our Hollywood back,
but it's not easy to help me.

Speaker 5 (01:07:49):
I agree. I agree with you.

Speaker 15 (01:07:51):
We need more of old Hollywood. We need the old
Hollywood made cool. So here's my question. I as a
director or as an actor bucket list. If you could
have worked with any male and female actor, living or dead,
who would you have liked to work with?

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
And the second part of the question is if you
could have been involved in any movie that's ever been made,
what movie would you like to be involved in?

Speaker 10 (01:08:14):
Easy Barvov. I always wanted to meet Boris Karlov and
work with him. He died in sixty nine when I
was thirteen and I didn't get to meet him, and
The Bride of Frankenstein being my favorite film. If I
had worked on that movie, I would that would have
just been amazing. The other regret was that I when

(01:08:35):
I met Brian de Palmer, he was he was preparing
to do Carrie, and I wish i'd I had the
gumption to ask him to please let me come work
on that, because I did end up working on his
very next film, The Fury and Carrie is my favorite
to Palma film of all time, the Grant movie. I
would have loved you worked on that movie, damn it,

(01:08:56):
and give me.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
A female, a female you would like to work with me?

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
Oh man, I mean so many? My god, Oh.

Speaker 10 (01:09:05):
Well, you know, I'm a gay boy. I would have
loved to have worked with Diana Ross on Ladies, Things.

Speaker 4 (01:09:11):
Of the Blues, great movies. She should have gotten an
Academy Award. You should have.

Speaker 5 (01:09:18):
She should have or at least tied. It was Liza
that year for Taboray. At least tied with her.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
She should have done.

Speaker 5 (01:09:25):
Let Barbara Streisan and and.

Speaker 10 (01:09:28):
Catherine Hepburn tie one year from Funny when it was
Funny Girl and not forgetting.

Speaker 5 (01:09:33):
So you guys, this is Sam Ervin.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
You can follow him on Instagram. It's at Sam Underscore.
Ervin Underscore Director. Confessions of a Brian DePalma Protegees his
latest book. But all his books seem fabulous. You guys
should check them out, get them on Amazon. You sell
autographed copies on your website or anything.

Speaker 10 (01:09:50):
I don't, but if you want an autograph copy of
this book and you're in the Los Angeles area, come
to my signing and I'm in now.

Speaker 5 (01:10:00):
See it here. It hasn't even been announced on their
website yet.

Speaker 10 (01:10:03):
At book Soup in West Hollywood, the famous independent bookstore,
on Tuesday, December ninth, at seventy m I will be
there and I'm going to be introduced and interviewed by
the great Don Mancini, the creator, the gay, creator and
director and producer of all the Chucky movies. And he's

(01:10:24):
a huge depalm aficionado, and he's going to be there
and he's also going to sign books with me, if
you're interested in getting him his signature as well in
these books.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
I got a Sienna half I got a a half
foot electronic animatronic Chucky for my birthday.

Speaker 10 (01:10:41):
No way, Oh my god. Well, if you're in La
then you must come. It's it's it's going to be
a great event.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
So we want to thank you for coming on the show.
You've got to been a whirlwind and volage. You're a
great guest and you've really accomplished a lot. Congratulations on everything.

Speaker 4 (01:10:55):
And I'm really proud that you have family.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Actually, I'm proud, proudest of all.

Speaker 10 (01:11:05):
I mean, it's I'm I've always as soon as I
came out, and at the age of twenty five in
nineteen eighty two, I've been out and proud and.

Speaker 5 (01:11:15):
A proponent of everything in our community. So I'm thrilled,
So thank you so much. We'll see you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
It's good that we finally met because we actually know
a lot of the same people. So it's really nice
to have met you on the show.

Speaker 5 (01:11:29):
Me too. We'll see you on social media. All right,
take care of guys.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
Thanks again, sad show, great show, good show, all right, everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
So that was Sam Irvin again. You can follow him
on Instagram at Sam Underscore Urban Underscore Director. He also
does a lot of signings at conventions or conventions and
stuff for his books. He's done a lot of great things.
And now we're going to bring on our next guest.
So let's go ahead and bring on John Michael Ferrari.

Speaker 12 (01:11:59):
Helloh, good afternoon there.

Speaker 5 (01:12:03):
How are you.

Speaker 12 (01:12:04):
I'm doing well, doing well. I'm here in Nevada. Where
are you at.

Speaker 5 (01:12:08):
We're in Pump Springs, California.

Speaker 12 (01:12:10):
Oh yeah, I like Pump Springs.

Speaker 5 (01:12:12):
You met.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
I don't know where we've met you, but we've met
you because when they asked me about having you come
on the show, I already knew who you were. I
already followed you in social media, and I don't follow
anybody if I haven't met him.

Speaker 12 (01:12:25):
So where was it we met before?

Speaker 5 (01:12:28):
I'm not sure where we met.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
We met either at a movie premiere or at a
show someplace, but anyway, let me introduce you everybody. So
now you guys, we want to welcome to the Jimmy
Stars Show with Ron Russell, singer, songwriter, entertainer John Michael Ferrari. Hello,
and welcome to the show.

Speaker 12 (01:12:44):
Thank you for having me here.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
This is my cool, outrageous man about town co host
Ron Russell. We'm a start yay start bearing there. No, No,
you're Italian. You don't speak Italian?

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
How about you?

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
So you guys, John Michael Ferrari is coming on, and
we want to say, first of all, congratulations. He has
a single out right now called Win Love Is Love.
It's under for your consideration for Grammy nomination and Pop
Solo Performance Category. Today's the last day for Grammy members
to vote.

Speaker 5 (01:13:21):
I voted for you, and uh and.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
I think it's congratulations. And one thing I didn't know
until I read it on I guess on your website
or someplace. But but if you get nominated for a Grammy,
you will be in the Dennis Book of Records as
the oldest artist to be nominated for Best New Artists
because you're seventy seven, and so you would be the

(01:13:47):
oldest Best New Artist in the category in history.

Speaker 12 (01:13:50):
That's what they tell me I think so, yeah, yeah,
that's very amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
Who is not.

Speaker 4 (01:13:58):
How much of my eighty five?

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
I'm eighty five?

Speaker 4 (01:14:01):
And when you get to these numbers, they really treat
you differently, don't they.

Speaker 12 (01:14:05):
Oh well, you know, I don't know. I hang around
a little kid all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
You're on your way to eighty. Eighty opens the door
to invisibility.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
Eighty is a good age.

Speaker 12 (01:14:19):
I think any of us who got to this age,
I mean, it's a miracle. Look at the lessons we've
learned and along the way, and we're a lot better
off for it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
So now you live in and I wrote down that
you live in Nashville and also in Nevada.

Speaker 12 (01:14:34):
Yeah, we live here in Perump, Nevada. And we're always
going to Nashville. That's where we spend a lot of
time there with recording and doing our sessions. And we
love going to Nashville.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
And also, don't you aren't you nominated for Are you
nominated for a Chelsea music?

Speaker 5 (01:14:52):
A word this time?

Speaker 10 (01:14:54):
Yes?

Speaker 12 (01:14:55):
Isn't it?

Speaker 5 (01:14:55):
Yes?

Speaker 12 (01:14:56):
Amazing? Yes, absolutely, we're going there. When are we going there?

Speaker 5 (01:15:00):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
November two?

Speaker 12 (01:15:04):
Oh, November second, Yeah, it's coming up.

Speaker 5 (01:15:06):
It's coming on.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
So I have a publicist, and i'd like seven of
my clients are all nominated for Josie Music Awards, and
and like you, I have three of them that are
under consideration for Grammy Awards also, and uh, that's my birthday.
That's why we have those books driving us crazy. Yes, so,

(01:15:29):
but your Josie Award nomination is for Songwriter of the Year.
So tell us a little bit about your career. I
read I read someplace. I think you started playing guitar
at eight or something, or you got your first guitar
at eight.

Speaker 5 (01:15:39):
I did.

Speaker 12 (01:15:39):
I got my first guitar at eight, And I think
the first time I actually joined the band when I
was living at the Nevada State Children's Home in Carson City, Nevada,
and a group of us started a little band and
we played in the area. We played like Lake Tahoe,
Reno and they had little uh TV shows that we
would occasionally play. And it was that's from that time on,

(01:16:01):
I enjoyed working and seeing with other people, so.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
You don't get nervous then, you know, on the stage
in front of people.

Speaker 4 (01:16:10):
No.

Speaker 12 (01:16:10):
I remember the first time, first few times playing at
the PA Civic Center in Carson City, when we were kids.
I got scared. I got nervous. But after that, I thought, oh,
this is easy. Go out there and do your stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
And now you've been doing it for a pretty long time.

Speaker 12 (01:16:27):
Yes, well, you know you you prepare for it, and
you know you're always a little anxious because you want
to do good.

Speaker 4 (01:16:33):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:16:34):
The biggest fear is, you know, forgetting that your lyrics.
But I've forgotten my lyrics so many times now. I
mean it's like part of the show.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Way, what do you do when you forget your lyrics?
Then you just like sing la la la or something.

Speaker 10 (01:16:48):
Or what do you know?

Speaker 12 (01:16:50):
I just pointed, blame it on someone else, would.

Speaker 5 (01:16:55):
What are you doing?

Speaker 12 (01:16:56):
I turned one of the band members, are like, he
made a mistake. What's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
So I want to tell everybody to you can follow him.

Speaker 10 (01:17:03):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:17:04):
It's funny because when Pepper out in the audience, my
producer manager, she can tell when when the next phrase
is coming up, and I don't have the phrase in
my head because I get that look in my eyes
and she'll yell out the phrase.

Speaker 4 (01:17:19):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
So so Ron's an actor and we do the same thing.
He has a little thing he wears in his ear,
and if he forgets the line, I tell him to
get it. Get him started with the line.

Speaker 4 (01:17:29):
What the fuck do you want? Tom eighty five? You're
lucky I know how to breathe Meanwhile, meanwhile, Jehne, I
have an uncle with the same name as you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
He was a bookie and a.

Speaker 4 (01:17:42):
Story of Queens, New York.

Speaker 12 (01:17:45):
He was a bookie.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
He was a booky.

Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
Yeah, uncle Joe. Ah, but he had the same last name.
But I think he was Ferraro. You're Ferrari.

Speaker 12 (01:17:55):
Yeah, a lot of Ferraros.

Speaker 4 (01:17:57):
Yeah, so were you Ferraro and became Ferrari?

Speaker 12 (01:18:01):
No, it was Ferrari. Where was he a bookie at.

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
He's a story the Story of Queens, New York.

Speaker 12 (01:18:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, Okay, this was.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
Fifty years ago. He's gone with the wind, you know.
Oh yeah, he was a good guy.

Speaker 4 (01:18:16):
We loved Uncle Troe.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
So you guys to John Michael Ferrari. You can follow
him on Instagram and he's at He's John Michael Ferrari.
Makes it very easy for you, John. He's Instagram at
John Michael Ferrari and his website is Johnmichael Ferrari dot com.
Tell us a little bit about the song. We're gonna
play it for everybody. I actually downloaded it off of YouTube.

Speaker 5 (01:18:34):
Win Love is Love.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
Tell us a little bit about the song, and I'm
gonna let you introduce it after that, and we're gonna
play it for everybody.

Speaker 12 (01:18:40):
Well, you just long version or a short version.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
We got time, you can go like a medium version.

Speaker 12 (01:18:47):
Well, here's a story about that song. There was there
was three of us in the in the room, and
I had already written out the music and I wasn't
inspired by any particular situation. You know, sometimes you write
out a desperation, not so much inspiration. And we were

(01:19:08):
sitting down we wrote the song, and as I was leaving,
the other guy was writing the song with you know,
he suggested to me, he says, you know, John, he says,
the song is a little suggestive.

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
It's a little over the top, you know, and and
besides suggestive of.

Speaker 12 (01:19:25):
What oh lyrically, you know, suggest sexually suggestive in the song.
And then he indicated, you know, the song wasn't really
that strong, wasn't really that good anyway. So that kind
of shocked me. I knew what he was saying, it
was true, but we had to record the song. The

(01:19:45):
next morning we had a session. So I was lying
in bed and I thought I'll get up and I
rewrote the whole song basically just with except for a
few of the versus short verse of phrases in there.
He wrote the song. We went in the studio and
recorded it and thank goodness, uh he gave me that

(01:20:05):
suggestion because he made it a better song by him
saying that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
So this is the song that's actually now up for
nomination for Pop Solo Performance Best Pop Solo Performance.

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
It is.

Speaker 12 (01:20:18):
Yeah, yeah, So why we're.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
Gonna play the one that says win love is love.
You introduced the song for us. We're gonna play it
and then we'll be right back hang on, So go
ahead and introduce it though for me.

Speaker 5 (01:20:30):
Yeah you it's your song.

Speaker 12 (01:20:32):
All right, Everybody get ready for when Love is Love?

Speaker 5 (01:20:35):
There you go, come talk with me.

Speaker 8 (01:21:05):
Oh there are things that we could see.

Speaker 11 (01:21:13):
About the clouds and rain and maybe you.

Speaker 8 (01:21:22):
Tell me where you've been.

Speaker 10 (01:21:26):
And where you like to go.

Speaker 11 (01:21:31):
Crowded with soon friends, can I walk you.

Speaker 9 (01:21:40):
Come time with me?

Speaker 16 (01:21:44):
I SI love live your smile, your perfume, whisper, say alone, hold.

Speaker 8 (01:21:54):
Along, leg.

Speaker 12 (01:21:58):
Will love love.

Speaker 10 (01:22:02):
Baby.

Speaker 11 (01:22:03):
You know, go into my eyes. I'll tell you who
did I see.

Speaker 8 (01:22:17):
Your beautiful way you look?

Speaker 12 (01:22:21):
Get at are.

Speaker 8 (01:22:26):
Come talk with me.

Speaker 16 (01:22:30):
As you lovely, your smile, your per few whispers, hold
on there go.

Speaker 8 (01:22:45):
We loves love baby will know who we love? Love
baby will know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
You not.

Speaker 8 (01:23:14):
When the souls of brown and shut it on your face,
your son and me come song with me. I she

(01:23:38):
lovely and your smile.

Speaker 5 (01:23:42):
You well you whisper.

Speaker 16 (01:23:45):
Sllo hold on neilhad go.

Speaker 8 (01:23:52):
With love love baby will know.

Speaker 4 (01:24:23):
They love it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:24):
In the chat room, they think it's terrific and very romantic.
So congratulations.

Speaker 5 (01:24:28):
I thought it was great. Thank you.

Speaker 12 (01:24:32):
There's Karina Jones playing the female party in there, and
I just met her that night we did the video together.

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
Yes, I was going to ask you if that was
Pepper j So, your.

Speaker 12 (01:24:46):
Founder at the Bully Alley. I think the night before
didn't they have.

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
Answering to me. We have got to not just like okay,
not right now, let's go because it's so technical.

Speaker 4 (01:24:57):
I can't do an internet where you can't hear want
to make an interesting interview.

Speaker 3 (01:25:01):
He wants to make it. He wants to talk. Well,
I wants to say I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:25:04):
Want to talk. I'm interviewing, but I want to make
it interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
He was answering my question. I know that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:11):
Oh go ahead, No he was answering, No, go ahead,
now you go. You know I wanted to say a
compliment him good when he finishes singing. You have to
let me make my opinion of what I thought.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
Okay, we're married.

Speaker 4 (01:25:24):
No, no, just be stupid. And I thought, and my
feelings are he's good for a man of his age.
He doesn't have an old man voice. Because when you
get to be eighty years old, your vocals change and
you're all like old man. You still sound like very camel,
a young fellow. Very you say, terrific man. Make a suggestion, Yeah,

(01:25:49):
beard's age us. I would never put a beard on.
If I don't shave a couple of days, I look
like a homeless person. I don't look sexy. Maybe you
should try it without the beard. You could even look
younger and better my opinion, And you're good looking. Don't
hide a handsome face with hair, you know.

Speaker 12 (01:26:11):
On attraction half how's that?

Speaker 4 (01:26:16):
I know. I know it's very end to have a beard,
but it's also boring because everybody you look at as
a fucking beard.

Speaker 3 (01:26:22):
I won't pay me.

Speaker 4 (01:26:24):
I won't put a beard. I look eighty five with
a beard. But you're terrific. I think you're great, and
I'm very proud that you're a senior.

Speaker 8 (01:26:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:26:35):
You know, when you listen to Tony Bennett, he never
sounded aged. He always sounded like he did when he
was young.

Speaker 4 (01:26:42):
Tony always sounded like Tony. You know why he never
used his voice. He didn't scream. No, well, he was
always mellow. And the same thing with Johnny Manthis kept
his voice today.

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
That's his favorite is they don't scream.

Speaker 12 (01:27:01):
Yeah, those are the best.

Speaker 5 (01:27:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:27:04):
You do some high pitch at the end when you
do your when you hold your one note, but you
hold it well, I'm surprised at eighty years.

Speaker 3 (01:27:12):
Old, seventy seven, seventy seven, you can hold it seventy
eight next month.

Speaker 5 (01:27:17):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
I'm surprised you can hold that note.

Speaker 5 (01:27:20):
So some of your musical influences.

Speaker 12 (01:27:23):
Well you had one of them right there, Johnny Mathis,
Tony Bennett, Perry Como. You know, I used to listen
to all those guys, you know, with Elvis, the Beatles.

Speaker 4 (01:27:33):
That's all we had back then. It was wonderful really
to ship have today to fake people making millions of
dollars with his rap shit. They don't even sing, they
talk and they're making millions of dollars. Disgusting.

Speaker 12 (01:27:48):
Well, music's changed a lot. You know, we were forcing that.
We grew up in an error where we had those romantic,
beautiful voices in your life.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
You know Peggy Lee, who couldn't sing a sexy song
better than Peggy Lee.

Speaker 12 (01:28:03):
Oh, Peggy Lee, you never know how much I love you.

Speaker 4 (01:28:09):
She was good, she was great.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
So I also wrote down that you, uh, you and Pepper,
which we should say Pepper is your producer of Yes
producer Management. You co authored a book called Dynamic Song Performance,
The Singer's Bible, and it provides insights perspiring artists. And
you also did a book called Acting.

Speaker 5 (01:28:31):
With your Eyes.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
Yes, So tell us a little bit about acting with
your eyes.

Speaker 12 (01:28:37):
Well, acting with your eyes is a technique I came
up with.

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
For actors.

Speaker 12 (01:28:43):
You know, when you're on the camera, your gestures have
to be subtle. They can't be all like all over
the place, although some actors do that. But when you're
looking at the camera, it's called eye phrasing. If I,
if I look at you you're right there, and I say,
I had a little lamb. His eyes were white as snow,

(01:29:04):
and everywhere that Mary went, the lamb was sure to go.
That's called eye raising, you know, And you just do
that a little bit. You don't have to do anything
else when you're on a camera, when you're doing close ups.
So I wrote a book about that to teach actors.
When you're on a camera, that's all you have to
do is use the I phrase along with teque you

(01:29:26):
have this will compliment it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:28):
Have you been an actor?

Speaker 12 (01:29:29):
I own I've done acting. Yes, you know, I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:34):
I've been acting for sixty how many seven years? And
I knew that when I was nineteen. I learned that
because my mother was friends with Glorious Swanson. I met
Glorious Swanson the first time in my life when I
was about nine, and you know what I about her
her She spoke with her. I couldn't get over it.

(01:30:00):
Her eyebrows were up here somewhere, and her eyes just
she looked and you know what she was. She was
telling you what to do with her eyes. And that
was the training they did in silent movies, because in
silent movies you didn't have voice. All you had was
your eyes. You made love with your eyes. You were
angry with your eyes. So yes, I agree with you.

Speaker 5 (01:30:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:30:24):
Well it's a good technique to you know. It works
with any acting.

Speaker 5 (01:30:28):
I think.

Speaker 4 (01:30:30):
I still use it. I just did a movie where
I had to look different than the script said. So
I told my director, can I do it my way?
Let's try it this way? And I did it by
turning my head and they came in on my eyes
and my eyes were angry and they loved it. They said,
that did the whole script, you see, So you don't

(01:30:52):
have to have words all the time. It's hard, you know.
My kids knew that. But both my daughters, if they misbehaved,
they were in public and they were jumping around, you know,
the Italians. I gave him the eyes. They sat down
real fast.

Speaker 3 (01:31:09):
Yeah, the look.

Speaker 13 (01:31:12):
I also wrote down musical influencers.

Speaker 3 (01:31:14):
I don't know who the Wrecking Crew is, but I
wrote down the Wrecking Clue Glenn Campbell and and David
Foster and Glenn Campbell I know obviously the Recking Crew.

Speaker 12 (01:31:23):
You heard him on every pop song they played on
the Beach Boys songs. There wasn't the Beach Boys that
played the songs that it was the Wrecking Crew. Glenn
Campbell used them on his recording. He was actually a
Wrecking Crew member. But all the almost all the tops
be My Baby with uh, yeah, that was the Wrecking Crew.

(01:31:45):
They backed up all the singers, a lot of the
singers back then in the sixties. Yeah, you heard them
on almost all the records. They were just amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
I like that. So you have another new song that
just I don't know if it's out or it's about
to come out, called Smooth Sailing. Tell us a little
bit about it. I thought we'd play it for everybody
to hear something different.

Speaker 12 (01:32:05):
Oh yeah, that'd be nice. Yeah, we just released it
last week. It's smooth saying. It's a retro song. It's
about me, you know, talking about when I was twenty
three years old, my attitude and how I saw life,
and you know, some pepper suggested I should write a song.

(01:32:25):
What kind of song? Was a baby boomer song and
the only song I could think of yesterday when I
was young. I love that song, well, I thought, but
I thought I started to write a song like that,
but I thought that's kind of sad. I want something
more punchy. So I wrote this song. It's about smooth
saline when I was twenty three, how life was different,

(01:32:47):
and how my good looks got me through everything I
ever needed.

Speaker 5 (01:32:53):
All Right, So one let's leave you today.

Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
Saling you guys. This is the new single by John
Mike Ferrari, Smooth Sailing. We'll be right back.

Speaker 8 (01:33:13):
Things on like they used to be.

Speaker 11 (01:33:16):
I was strong, good looking at twenty three.

Speaker 12 (01:33:21):
All the young girls would gather around listen to worlds.

Speaker 11 (01:33:27):
I was hooting down everywhere I'd go.

Speaker 8 (01:33:34):
I put on a should. It was smooth seeing for me,
A smooth.

Speaker 5 (01:33:43):
Saying it for me.

Speaker 8 (01:33:46):
It was smooth seeing it for me, and I was
sweating the tree.

Speaker 12 (01:34:00):
I too pride in the close eye war, I will
steep between. When I walked in the.

Speaker 11 (01:34:07):
Door, lady there we called my name.

Speaker 4 (01:34:12):
It was all in.

Speaker 11 (01:34:13):
Fun, playing a stylish game. A smooth face of you
thigh walls was gee jeweyl door.

Speaker 17 (01:34:25):
It was smooth scene for me, or smooth seeing it
for me. It was smooth and seeing it for me,
and I was sweating the street.

Speaker 18 (01:34:46):
My movement was coming class, hating every down in trashy.

Speaker 11 (01:34:51):
I've been too prugging.

Speaker 14 (01:34:53):
The railing.

Speaker 8 (01:34:55):
I spread a.

Speaker 12 (01:34:56):
Lot of money heavy with little little honey.

Speaker 8 (01:35:00):
Everyone knew my name.

Speaker 11 (01:35:03):
It was a good timed fellow around.

Speaker 8 (01:35:07):
We all champced to live.

Speaker 16 (01:35:09):
Damp sound.

Speaker 11 (01:35:12):
Oh lost, wasn't sweet such a tree? Oh how I
wish I were sweet tree.

Speaker 13 (01:35:20):
It was smooth sein for.

Speaker 18 (01:35:23):
Me or smooth seen it for me? It was smooth
saying it for me, and I was sweet.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
O s.

Speaker 7 (01:36:03):
It was smooth.

Speaker 1 (01:36:07):
It was smooth.

Speaker 5 (01:36:09):
Say it was twitter and.

Speaker 11 (01:36:12):
Three oh twittery.

Speaker 12 (01:36:19):
Smoothe sing smooze se.

Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
Hey everybody. That was smooth sailing by John Michael Ferrari.
All Right, you go first.

Speaker 4 (01:36:42):
I love that song. It sounds about twenty five in it,
and it's a great song. And it's from my day,
my kind of music. So yeah, you one with me.

Speaker 12 (01:36:54):
Yeah, it's uh, that's from our era. You know you
had to dance to the motown sound, and you know
life was sweet. It was still sweet. But you know,
when you're young, you got that smooth face. It gets
you where, It gets you almost anywhere you want to go.

Speaker 4 (01:37:08):
I used to sing, would you believe it or not?
I used to I was on stage, so I sang
a lot. Now I don't sing anymore because I sound horrible.
My voice change eighty five years old. My vocals are
old and shrunken or stretched, which is a drunken the
vocal stretch when you're old.

Speaker 12 (01:37:29):
No, I still have to rehearse a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
I sing pretty regularly, much younger than I.

Speaker 4 (01:37:35):
So you're like, what eight years younger? That means a lot. Yeah. Wait,
you got to be eighty five with the whole different ball.

Speaker 3 (01:37:44):
So how many instruments do you play at one time?

Speaker 12 (01:37:52):
Leano, tuba, all at the same time, you know? Oh, actually,
I'm guitar is my main instrument. But when I'm in
the studio and then I'm recording stuff, I'll play the
piano and all the instruments that are related to the piano.
I do the horn parts and the string parts.

Speaker 5 (01:38:07):
I can do all that.

Speaker 12 (01:38:08):
So before we went to the studio, I made a
whole demo of this song how I wanted it to play,
and then I sent out. I hired a horn player
to write out the horn parts. So we went to
the studio. I could just hand it to the musicians.
But working in the studio, I know how to play

(01:38:28):
all different instruments. I don't play them live.

Speaker 3 (01:38:31):
Though, right, You just play guitar live, right, saytimes sometimes
we do the.

Speaker 12 (01:38:38):
Thing about what do they call them? Roundabout roundabouts in Nashville,
songwriter roundabouts. I sit up there and play the guitar.
But when I perform on stage, usually without the guitar.

Speaker 4 (01:38:49):
Okay, now we all know more night clubs unfortunately, But
where do you perform if you perform.

Speaker 12 (01:38:57):
Country clubs? The things Dad places in.

Speaker 3 (01:39:01):
Clubs, country country clubs in thatville, right, there's a lot
of places.

Speaker 4 (01:39:06):
No, No, he means country clubs like charity events. You know,
you mean the country club, like you join the country club.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
No different.

Speaker 12 (01:39:17):
I do shows that mostly when people pay to come
in and sit and I entertained them doing the show.
When I sang it with a band, we did something
the same thing, but we were more of a dance band.
You know, you used to do dance music.

Speaker 4 (01:39:31):
Bringing this up because I want to promote you. If
there's anybody out there that's having an affair and they
need entertainment, contact John because he would be wonderful playing
for a room at a cocktail hour, for a wedding
or something.

Speaker 3 (01:39:46):
John Michael Ferrari dot com.

Speaker 5 (01:39:48):
You guys, I like like it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:52):
I think so so you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
So you are you performing at the Josey Awards or
you just got nominated for the Jesse Awards, But are
you actually performing? Also?

Speaker 12 (01:40:01):
No, I don't think anybody performed. Yeah, a couple of
people performed last year. The guy who wrote A Weekend
a New week Weekend in New England, he performed last year.
He played some of his hit songs.

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
Yeah, he's my client. He's one of my clients.

Speaker 12 (01:40:17):
Oh is he?

Speaker 5 (01:40:20):
He was great.

Speaker 12 (01:40:21):
I enjoyed that a lot. I enjoyed listening to that
song in his songs. But other than that, I don't
think any any of the participants are performing this year.
But you know, I was anxious to win next year
because I wanted to get on the Grand o Opry stage.

Speaker 5 (01:40:39):
You know, did you did you win? Did you win
last year?

Speaker 4 (01:40:42):
No?

Speaker 12 (01:40:42):
But what we did do is we booked the tour
and I got to stand on the stage.

Speaker 3 (01:40:48):
Okay, I have been on a tour.

Speaker 12 (01:40:50):
You should go on the Grand ole Opry tour. It's
really interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:40:54):
No, it's a I mean, it's a legendary, iconic place
to be also, so you got to like love it.
So tell everybody where they can find you. You guys,
his Instagram is at Johnmichael Ferrari dot com. His website
is John Michael Ferrari dot com. Wayne Love is Love
up for a Grammy consideration right now, and the video
is on YouTube, you guys. And the new song Smooth

(01:41:16):
Sailing is available to stream right yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:41:21):
It's just about everywhere you know, on Spotify, reverbination and YouTube.

Speaker 3 (01:41:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:41:28):
Perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
So I hear Pepper J over on the side. Say
hi to Pepper J. I'm gonna guess that that's Pepper J.

Speaker 5 (01:41:35):
Hi there.

Speaker 12 (01:41:40):
Heading there.

Speaker 4 (01:41:40):
They never do.

Speaker 5 (01:41:41):
Hi, Nice to meet you. We want to thank you
for coming on the show.

Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
I think that I wish you all the luck with
the Grammy nomination and the Josie Awards. I'm not actually
going to the Josie Awards. My business partner will be
there though, with all of our people, so so I'll
tell her to look you up and that we want
to thank you for coming on the show and best
of luck with everything that you're doing.

Speaker 12 (01:42:03):
Thank you very much, appreciate the time on having me
on the show.

Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
Thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:42:08):
You still got it.

Speaker 15 (01:42:09):
John.

Speaker 4 (01:42:10):
Now go sell it.

Speaker 12 (01:42:14):
I'm gonna go sell it right now.

Speaker 3 (01:42:15):
That's right, Go sell smooth sailing. There you go, smooth saling.
I love it, all right, thank you so much for
coming on. All right, you guys, so don't forget Next Wednesday,
I mean next Saturday. We've got Clown Motel three premiere.
I don't know, Hey, one, do you have an actual
Climb Motel trailer we can play for everybody because we
still got seven minutes.

Speaker 5 (01:42:35):
Left to go.

Speaker 4 (01:42:36):
Oh trailer.

Speaker 3 (01:42:37):
So I don't know if you do, but if you do,
let me know, put a little thing in the chat.
Climb Motel three ways to hell.

Speaker 1 (01:42:43):
You guys.

Speaker 3 (01:42:44):
Ron's gonna be in it. We're gonna have a bunch
of people that were inviting to go see it. It's
got the most clowns of any clown movie ever.

Speaker 4 (01:42:51):
Over a hundred, over one hundred clowns, killer clowns.

Speaker 3 (01:42:56):
And I think it's gonna be a lot of fun.

Speaker 5 (01:42:58):
I mean, it might be a great movie.

Speaker 3 (01:43:01):
Oh, it's gonna be It's gonna be campy.

Speaker 4 (01:43:03):
It's guys, it's going to be a great movie because
you're never gonna see anything like it again.

Speaker 3 (01:43:09):
That's true. They're doing.

Speaker 4 (01:43:11):
I mean they went all over and the rut of
the lake up in the mountains. No, no, this film takes.
It's not like shot in a cellar where it's boring
one set the whole movie. It's all over the place.

Speaker 5 (01:43:24):
We have no, we don't have it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:25):
We'll play it next week. We'll play it next week
because since we're going on the show next week. But
you guys, that's got com Hotel three Ways the hell
has some really great cameos in it too. I'm gonna
tell you who besides Ron hang On. I'm gonna look
it up and see.

Speaker 4 (01:43:40):
Motel three three Ways.

Speaker 3 (01:43:43):
So here's so many other people that are in the film,
you guys that you guys will know it's gonna be
a lot of fun. Oliver Robbins, he's the little kid
from poulter Geist. Lisa Wilcox is the girl who in
Nightmare on El Street gets taken grabbed in into the
by the claw by Freddie Cougar's claw into the bed
that you are like, as long as you're not that girl.

Speaker 5 (01:44:03):
Tony Moran is.

Speaker 3 (01:44:04):
The original Michael Myers, Aery Riemon is, Aerie Lehman is
the original. Jason Minnie Robinson has been on our show.
Donnalllie Heysen I love. She plays the crystal Ball, a
lot of these people that are Alien Dietz is in it,
Brett Wagner who is Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Let's see who

(01:44:25):
else is in here. We know all these people. A
lot of these people have all been on the show.
Al Burke, uh, the professional wrestler Life plays Punchy the
hobo clown. Josie Kat is a clown. There's a lot
of clowns.

Speaker 4 (01:44:38):
And Mary and.

Speaker 3 (01:44:40):
Yes, Mary's in it. And Mary Kate, she plays a
bunch of different clowns. I believe in it, and and
her husband and see there's years her husband plays a
soldier of mine. Yep. So it's gonna be a lot
of fun, you guys. And uh, patrich Thrall is in

(01:45:01):
it again. He's from Lords of Acid, is a great band.
So I think the whole event is going to be
a lot of fun. And after that they're all going
to Halloween, not and this We're not going to Halloween,
not this this year. We have a dog at home
that we have to take care of, so we're gonna
come home and take care of the dog. Plus it's
just a really long day to go for two big
events like that, and what else is going on?

Speaker 4 (01:45:25):
I want to go get different equipment because I don't
like the color we are with alabaster.

Speaker 3 (01:45:31):
We look like fake people.

Speaker 4 (01:45:33):
All our guests today were in beautiful color and real looking.
They had nice pink skin.

Speaker 3 (01:45:40):
Maybe we shouldn't have a light.

Speaker 4 (01:45:43):
I don't know what I look like.

Speaker 3 (01:45:44):
Shit, I don't look that bad.

Speaker 4 (01:45:48):
No, because you're sick of a fever.

Speaker 3 (01:45:52):
Either way, we want to thank our guests today. We
also want to We want to thank uh Sam Urban,
you guys are coming on the show is remarkable career
John Michael Ferrari. We brought those on also with from
Alexis and Lady Summer, Helene the Baroness and uh oh
and you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:46:12):
Arrow Rose.

Speaker 3 (01:46:12):
We should have played it. I didn't think about it.
A Rose with Chris Wise. They were on the show
two weeks ago and their music video was now released.
It's called heal Me. You can go on YouTube and
see heal Me, and I'll try and upload it for
next week for us to have heal Me because it's
really good. It's a really good video. You guys will
dig it and they say we look good.

Speaker 4 (01:46:33):
Look goody you kidding? Yes? I look like this in person.
I would shoot myself. Oh way, I look like I died.

Speaker 3 (01:46:43):
No, you're a little well, you don't have any any
color in your face. You could sit outside in the
sun a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:46:48):
No, listen, it's the lighting, my dear. It's all about lighting,
you know. God, lighting keeps you young. And let's see
if the lighting is that's better.

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
Well that's how we had it earlier, and you didn't
like it.

Speaker 4 (01:47:03):
No, but that's too bright, puce, I have.

Speaker 3 (01:47:06):
Color, Yeah, you have pink in your skin, you know.
They say it's been awful when you're in the public eye.

Speaker 4 (01:47:13):
How you gotta worry about what the fuck do you
look like? If I wasn't an actor, if I'm just
a normal person, like a hairdresser, forget about it. I
wouldn't care what I look like. It was such a
nice life. I got to worry about losing my hands
on my eyebrows getting wrinkled.

Speaker 3 (01:47:29):
They said, it's very bright. Now, why are you interrupt here?

Speaker 4 (01:47:33):
And I speaking that aventure? Where do you see the
birthday President? I'll give you.

Speaker 3 (01:47:38):
Yeah, that's better anyway, you guys. So we got two
minutes left.

Speaker 4 (01:47:41):
And the birthday President I'm going to give you explodes
in like five minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:47:46):
Follow follow at. This is Jimmy Starr. You guys on
social media. We put a brand new trailer up for
a Legend of the Bunny Man. It's on it's on Instagram,
it's on Facebook, it's on YouTube, and it's on uh
TikTok money Man.

Speaker 4 (01:48:01):
The new Ship.

Speaker 5 (01:48:01):
You're gonna be trader, so please check it out.

Speaker 3 (01:48:04):
I think you guys will take it. I have a
new book out called The Misfit Orphans. It's also available.
I guess that's it. We can go because we don't
have to keep staying because we don't have anything to
talk about. You want to say anything.

Speaker 4 (01:48:14):
Our time is up.

Speaker 3 (01:48:16):
You got a minute, but you can go early.

Speaker 5 (01:48:19):
I can go on.

Speaker 3 (01:48:20):
Yeah, it's all right, everybody, Thanks so much for next week.
Have a good one, thank you one, Thank you chatting,
and we'll see you guys next week next week. Bye, everybody.

Speaker 13 (01:48:41):
I don't sit down every time.

Speaker 3 (01:48:43):
I'm not drinking a week, you know, Sep, we go.

Speaker 8 (01:48:51):
The ship.

Speaker 13 (01:48:51):
That's great to Jimmy, we got myself to help.

Speaker 7 (01:48:54):
You don't want to know gipsy always, that's Jimmy. You
want to give me stop and never tea to take
you out to Jean sus

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