Steve Bacic/ Melanie Kinnaman

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:22):
to those show hosts. Thank you for listening.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Gimme conte, give me.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Don't you give me? Stop?

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Hey, Hello, what's up everybody? Welcome to the Jimmy Star
Show with Ron Russell, bringing you the good time to music, fashion,
pop culture and entertainment. We got our great show for
you guys today. A very good friend of mine who's
been on the show many times, Steve Basic, is coming on.
He's got a new movie on TV. And then we
have Melanie Kinneman coming on. She's a final girl. So

(01:24):
it's all good and I'm looking forward to. Before we
get started, let's say hi to our cool, outrageous man
about town co host mister Ron Russell.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
Hello, let's try it this week. My knee is getting
better but still hurts. But anyway, I'm looking at myself
with this hair, I look like the author from the
Mother from the Golden Girls?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Can I look like the author from a Little Bit?

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Mah?

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Stop?

Speaker 4 (01:50):
So my hair has to be cut, but you know,
I've been in pain. I didn't give a damn about
my hair, so I let it grow. But it has
to be cut. Well, I look like George Washington? Which
what are you doing around?

Speaker 3 (02:06):
I just keep talking, keep talking. There's all kinds of
things going on, and I'm and everybody doesn't have to know,
but you too, because.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Well, I mean you're on television and your work and
your compute it.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Well, I'm always doing that because there's people talking.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
What are we going to talk about today?

Speaker 3 (02:24):
But you're doing better with your knee, so that's a
great thing.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
I'm walking without a cane. I'm walking on my own, slowly, carefully, painfully,
but it seems to be progressing and getting better. And
the doctors are very pleased with the way it's healed,
and the people I go to for therapy they're very

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happy with the way I throw my leg around and
move it and bend it. So everything is good. With that,
So we're positive about.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
That, Polk, Yes, absolutely, it's true.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
And the good news is Jimmy's movie is going to
be done.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yes, the Red River. We're getting ready to go into
pre production. We're very excited with that. You guys see
all the promos on my social media every way, and
I'm putting out all kinds of videos for it on
TikTok and Instagram and Facebook. So it's a lot fun.
And we'll have more information hopefully next week about when
exactly we're going to get going. But it's going to

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be a lot of fun. I'm looking forward to it.
The film is written by Ming Ballard, it's going to
star Ming Ballard, Jennifer James is directing it, and Ron
has a cameo in it, and I'll be promoting it
and producing it. So a lot of fun.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
I'm so honored that director Jennifer James said, Ron, you
have to be in the movie. I said, well, what part?
She said, They're part of the Scientists. And I read
it and it's a little idy bitty part. And I said, Jenny,
I don't do little parts anymore. I only do you
know major parts and movies? She said, I know, but

(04:00):
we want you in our movie. So I said, okay,
I'll do a cameo. And that's all it is, is
a cameo's cameo.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
But the movie is going to theater, so it'll be
a good one. It's going to have an a list cast.
So I'm very much looking forward to it and getting
it going.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
You know, you do things for friends, and I love
Jen and Mean, they're very good friends of Oz.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Plus you're into more of their movies where plus you're
doing two other movies with huge roles the other two.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Yeah, but that's not the reason why I'm doing the cameo.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Tommy now, because a cameo came first.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Right, And I've read the script of the cameo, and
I've worked it out where I could make that cameo
very important, not just a cameo. So I'll work with
Jen about it and see if she likes the idea.
We'll shoot her away, and then we'll shoot it my
way and see which way we'll use. That's what makes

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a movie good when the actor and the director can
work together to get the shot they want.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Absolutely, So it's going to be a lot of fun.
I think it's going to be great. We'll know more soon.
Lots of stuff happening on the movie front all around.
We can't talk about some of it yet, but right
river it looks like it's going to come through. We've
signed agreements and stuff, so everything should be getting going.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
And not easy getting money for movies. When you're up
in the millions, you know these are pay to go
go what are they calling go go?

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Pay to play, no go go, any go go, that's
any go.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Gos all in the thirty thousand to one hundred and
fifty thousand. That's not so hard to get. But when
you're doing a feature film that's going to go to
theaters and it's in the millions three four, five, six,
ten million, it's not easy getting that kind of money.
Hopefully things will get better with lenders and they'll understand

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that a movie is the same as a stock. It
can go up or it can go down. But if
a movie makes money, it makes a lot of money
and the stock and the investor is very happy.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
We're going to make money. Our films are going to
be really good. It's going to be fun.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Even a crappy film, a junkie nothing, garbage film, which
i've seen, if it goes to whatever you know those.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Channels now streaming services.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Yeah, streaming services. It makes money. It never really loses
money unless it's a total dog.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
What depends on how big the budget is, because I
know a lot of people who've lost money, but well, yeah,
it's small of.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
The budget, the easier it is to make money. If
you're talking about a five million dollar movie, you have
to make a lot of sales to cover that. But
if you're in one hundred and fifty thousand dollars movie,
it's very easy to make money on it because the
one hundred and fifty.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Again, it just depends because the problem is your body
distriveters are so crooked. They steal the money and they
don't pay you, even on the low budget, so they
get screwed. So you definitely got to be careful. We
want to stay hi to the chatroom Sidney Lady Lakes
in the chatrooms Tofoon Bell's in the chatroom.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
Hub.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Reynolds Junior just showed up in the chatter what's up Hub?
The chatroom is starting to fill up. We want to
give a shout out to Don Hitton, who's that therapy.
So she says she's probably going to be later if
she makes it. She had a shoulder surgery.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
I think that's another painful one.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, that's a painful one.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
I didn't time you fool around with your bones. You're
in trouble.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Absolutely no bone damage.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
You know when they break bones and they twist your herd. Anyway,
move on.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
It's freaking terrible. And if you guys actually saw so
when we were in the hospital and I had my
need done the last time, the doctor actually showed me
a picture. You showed Ron tub or. Ron couldn't look
at it, but if you saw how terrible it is,
it's like something out of a like a very detailed,
gory horror movie, because basically, like all the skin is
just hanging out off the sides and it's just a

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bigger hole. A lot of horror movie people like that stuff.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Anyway, we're gonna have a good show today. Before we
get started, let's talk about some of the things going on.
First of all, you can listen to the show, you guys.
We had to switch our provider, so now we're on Podbean,
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(08:41):
Public Tune in Amazon Prime, and three sixty TVN. So
if you want to watch the video, you got to
watch us on YouTube or three sixty TVN because all
the other places are audio. And oh, checking out this
chat room. But it's hey, everybody in the chat room too,
thanks for joining us, and Cindy Lady like, thanks for

(09:01):
putting out all the promos and be Claudia is not
in the chat room yet, so hopefully when she's gonna
come in, we want to just give her.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
I want to ask the chat room a question in
our interviews, what is more interesting personal stuff about the
star or their career. Let me know what you enjoy
hearing more personal or career.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Okay, so, be Claudia just joined us too, So actually,
you guys, be Claudia has been doing some total stuff
work for Eileen and I and she's phenomenal, and so
we're giving her a fake Nobel Prize for being a
genius because she's so freaking smart. So, Be Claudia, congratulations

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on your Nobel prize or being the biggest genius on
the planet and figuring out how to do all these
impossible things for us. You are the best, we love you,
thank you so much, and they say both like yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
So so, so that's what we do. I mean, Jimmy
does the bullshit and I do the personal so okay,
it works. I was just wondering.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
I also want to thank everybody for tuning into Dark
Fright's Horror News with Jimmy Starr. Check out our what
magazine is Darkfrights dot com, and please keep watching because
the podcast is doing really good. It's really short. They're
like five to ten minutes long every every couple of days,
so please listen to it and check it out and
listen to us on either Apple Podcasts or actually that's

(10:37):
the best place to listen because then we get paid,
So listen to it on Apple podcasts. Get paid?

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Where man? Where where is just get paid? Where is it?
We're floating in the air. Get paid. I don't get paid.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
You don't get paid. But but I'm actually we have
to start all over because the other podcast hosts that
we were on, buddh Us buddha Us our show off
because they won't let you put any talk any kind
of type of politics whatsoever. So we got kicked off.
So we're starting on a new one.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Talks politics.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Well, every once in a while we do, and we
got flags.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Oh that's because they don't like the politics I talk
about now, because they're Democrats.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
So anyway, it doesn't make any difference. If you talk politics,
you can't make money.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
You know.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
It's said that we Americans have lost our freedom of speech.
It's something we valued always and we were proud of.
It's something we always said to other countries, well, at
least we have freedom of speech, and now we've lost that.
And I hope that Trump is going to bring it
back because we need to voice what we feel. We

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just can't live in under a rock, and we can't
be afraid of the other people who control the media
for kicking us off because we don't do their politics.
That's not fair American citizens, and we have the right
to discuss our politics, either the Democrat or Republican politics.

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We're allowed to do it, and we should do it,
and we have to do it because it's the fair way.
I was raised with that. I was raised with Democrats
and Republicans.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Well that's why you got to do it that on
a political podcast and not an entertainment.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
I mean, my parents were socialists, which are communists, so
I came from all kinds of crap.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Anyway, if we're in entertainment show you guys, we're going
to keep it entertainment entertainment.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
You listen. There are very super intelligent people that listen
to us, and they like a little political stuff because
they're bored. Which is the film and the flam and
the guy is a wonderful actor and he's fabulous, and
he talks about how wonderful he is. You know, the
intelligent people are not interested in that shit.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
I know what our audience is interested in it.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
No, but we have a lot of intelli.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
While we were making a lot of money and now
we're not. So let's let's switch stop and go back
to making money with it, and we'll talk about that
other stuff in something else. We can start another show
for that. People will tune in.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
No, I'm not political. I'm very limited in my politics.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
That's true. I just believe in free speech. I believe
in free everything that's right. I believe in freedom of speech,
freedom of who you are, freedom to be who you
want to be, freedom to say what you want to say.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
I agree with that, you know, totally putting braces on
your brains. It is not very good.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yes, actually they all agree, and then VI said, we
have different opinions, but should have the same good hearts humanity. Yep, perfect.
You know we are all humans and so we should
all be trying to get along.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
So no like my hair. My hair looks like crapped.
But some people will lie and say, oh, no, it
looks nice.

Speaker 6 (14:03):
I like it.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
Nice because they don't want to offend me. That's not right.
You can't lie to somebody and say, oh, yeah, it
looks good. When the person knows it looks bad, then
you think you think you're a jerk. You got to
tell truth. And if I say to people, do you
like my hair? I want an honest answer. I don't

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want people to be afraid to answer because it may
not work with me, and I'll get the answer.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
They say to you that you look great, though, and
the chatman they say, you look great.

Speaker 7 (14:35):
But you look so I'm going and skinny. Now they
want you to be flying in a video. I made
a video of me flying, so they want me to
make one of you. Yeah, it's on social media. Got
that ten thousand plays.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
I'll try to make one of his. Thanks B. She says,
it's so cool, and they say you look great, but
you look a little thinner.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
I'm skinny and haggard and book. And you know, when
you get to be my age, you cannot be skinny
because your face gets going. I look like a skeleton.
You have to have a little bit of fat on
you when you're my age. So I've got to get
my weight back, you know, because of the experience I

(15:19):
had when I was kidnapped by the aliens. By the
way I'm writing it, it's the wonderful storyline about an
old guy who goes in the hospital for surgery and
he falls into that problem of the narcotic makes him hallucinate,

(15:41):
and I'm going to take you into his hallucination. I
believe it was true. I mean, I did not think
I was hallucinating. I was really frightened. I kept calling
everybody I knew to come and get me, to save me.
Call Jimmy. Why isn't Jimmy calling me back? Why is
my daughter not calling me back?

Speaker 5 (16:02):
On the planet?

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Why are they leaving me here with these people?

Speaker 4 (16:06):
These people deliberately are going to do something terrible, and
they charge me because I can't move my leg so
I can't get away.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
I mean, this is all so real.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
It was like a movie, and I don't like it.
Sometimes when I'm falling asleep, I think about it and
I almost relive it. So I'm concerned about the condition
that it leaves your brain because a lot of people
get affected by this.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Elderly people. Now they're saying that they're very happy that
we're back, and that we're both back, and now I
think you look much much better.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
I'm happy I'm back and not with those earliers.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
So we're going to bring on our first guests as that.
All right, let's bring on our first guest, Steve Basic.
You should be there. Hey, what's up? You always wear
Detroit shirts when you come on our show.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
Look at it? Can you hear me better with this thing? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, I can hear you. Well, look at you? Is
that you're when you're doing acting classes? You have the microphone?

Speaker 5 (17:14):
Now, no, no, I just found this in my closet.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
It's like I don't even have the stand.

Speaker 5 (17:21):
It's I don't even know if it works or not.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
But anyway, or you are ashamed to come on television
with that ugly face, or you were shamed to show
that face to the world and you smile like you
smile like your gorgeous.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
No, I've been in therapy, so my therapist says I
should just go out to uncomfortable situations like this and
imprace it.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Did you ever think of plastic survey? Well?

Speaker 5 (17:52):
Yeah, every day.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Make sure he knows you're joking.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
You know I'm joking.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
Well, I mean, I don't think I'm that good looking,
but I think I think, are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (18:02):
I had four people just today say that they don't
think they're going to make it to the show. They
think you're the hottest thing ever and so handsome, and
they like think you are so high they wish they
could see you naked, Like they.

Speaker 5 (18:13):
Send me shit.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
I'm like, why you guys sending me that shit?

Speaker 5 (18:15):
Send that ship to.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Him if you want to see if I have pictures
of his penis direct So if you want them, yeah,
send me one hundred dollars and I'll send you a
penis picture of Are.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
There's only fans, which you know?

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Yeah, who knows? Maybe I'll need to who knows?

Speaker 5 (18:40):
Who knows?

Speaker 1 (18:40):
You?

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Really?

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Do you have?

Speaker 6 (18:41):
You have?

Speaker 3 (18:42):
I mean you I'm sure that your fans are great.
And the ones who sent me things, saying how good
you are. They're all really cool people. But you have
this other lady. She contacts me all the time. I
don't know her name, and I wouldn't say it anyway.
She's like, can you please send Steve a message? You know,
tell him I love him, Tell him it's a happy birth.
Anytime there's anything happened is in your life. And she
sends me messages to seventh show. Tell Steve, I'm what.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
It's a kids show, right, what did you What did
you expect day?

Speaker 3 (19:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
This is your this is your maiden, this is your
your first voyage after By the way, welcome back. I'm glad,
thank you. The first guest since since you got to
know you?

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Third, the third, you're that third show. But the first show,
the first show he was kind of out of it
because he was having some problems. The second show he
could only do half the show because he was in
too much pain to sit in the chair. So so
this is the first full show he's doing.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
And I wanted to ask you, who did you dentures?

Speaker 5 (19:45):
I don't have dentures. Your veneers they look.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Fabulous, Like.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
Stepan, you have no sense of humor. I'm gonna put
your hair out of your head.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Listen.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
Listen. In the seventies, Uh, I had a dentist who
I used to have the I teeth, you know, the
big fangs. Yeah, this dentist, he was he was a
complete There was when they used to give you the
gas and I remember passing out and this dentist would
be flirting with his assistant and I'm pretty sure they

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were doing it over top of me. And it was
this jackass. This I had great teeth. He ground down
my teeth. They're so thick. He ground them down, and
then eventually they were chipping. So when they started chipping,
I had to put I had to put something harder on.
So it's a it's like a cap. They're not dentists,
but they're not whatever, but they he wrecked my teeth.

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Du beautiful.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
You have such a great smile. It's sickening. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
Well, you know, I wish you was good looking if
I am, but you're not. So suffer Yeah, how do.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
You deal with it?

Speaker 6 (20:53):
Ron?

Speaker 3 (20:53):
How do you deal with it?

Speaker 4 (20:54):
All?

Speaker 5 (20:54):
All the adoring?

Speaker 4 (20:57):
How are you doing with the ladies?

Speaker 5 (21:00):
I don't, I don't really I have I have a girlfriend,
so I'm doing good.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
You have the same boyfriend from the last time you
were on yep, yeah, Oh, maybe maybe you're gonna marriage.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
Five years there you go, I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Do five years there together, no room, no engagement, ring.

Speaker 5 (21:20):
No, I've been I've been through that. What oh if
you were my through it my daughter?

Speaker 4 (21:28):
As if that were my daughter, I would call Brooklyn
and have you shot and put in the river.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah. Ron, What do you like about marriage?

Speaker 4 (21:39):
What?

Speaker 3 (21:39):
What do you like about marriage? What do I like
about marriage? Everage?

Speaker 8 (21:44):
Was it?

Speaker 5 (21:44):
Everything?

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Everything? I've been single and I've been married.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
I love.

Speaker 5 (21:50):
But can't you be in a relationship that you're committed
to without state, without church?

Speaker 4 (21:56):
No? Oh, because if you're that little stupid piece of
paper says your mind.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
And I like that.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
I don't like that at all for a good reason
because I don't. I think that all the problems happen
in relationships when one person possesses the other. The only
thing you possess is yourself.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
No, no, no, no. Marriage is a comfortable pa.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
You got to remember, though, he's from the marriage generation,
even though I believe in it too. That's why we
got married, so am I.

Speaker 5 (22:31):
But the thing is I like everything. I don't take
everything just because someone's told me that that's that's the truth.
That's the problem we're having today. Everyone believes everything they hear.
They never question anything. I'm a big questioner. And when
I woke up, I go, Okay. I believe in commitment.
I believe in teamwork. I believe in dedication. I believe

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in service.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
If you're married without signing a paper.

Speaker 5 (22:59):
Yeah, piece of paper. For all the piece of paper.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Does, is you believe in I believe in Yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
I mean, listen, I think. I don't think I need someone,
someone or a piece of paper telling me that I'm
in a relationship. And the only difference is the only
difference is the lawyers make a lot of money if
you decide you're not in a relationship anymore, and fifty
or sixty percent of that people decide they're not in
the relationships anymore.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
So Stevens, he's divorced twice and you're divorced.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
No, I'm not divorced.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
I'm not divorced.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Oh you're not divorced. Oh I didn't know that.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
That's terrible.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Okay, I divorced once and windowed once.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
Yes, But when I was.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
Going out with Jimmy. Jimmy thought he was going to
fool around, you know, come to my house.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Jump with me.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
I said, he does, that's what Jimmy does.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
I said, good at you. That's not who I am.
I'm out a back guy.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
I said, if you want to be with me, you
have to marry me, okay, And he said, Okayzy. We
got married and it's eleven or twelve years. Twelve years,
and it's great. I wouldn't want to be single.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Especially in California. Everything is terrible.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
What's it like, you're not single? I'm not saying I'm
saying that it's not I think. I think that people
hide behind words and they hide behind certificates and they
actually maybe you guys are different, but I'm I'm the
type of person that if I'm in this relationship, I

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don't take the person they show up. I'm happy, Okay,
I'm happy for granted. I don't. I think when people
get into comfortable relationships they take people for granted.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
I agree with that one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
But how does she feel about this arrangement?

Speaker 5 (24:53):
I don't know, but that's it's this is like too
personal to talk about.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
But I mean.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
We have the same point of view.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
They have the same point of view of view.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
So that's the thing. I am dedicated.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
The conversation is not on the personal level, it's in
a general level. Now women feel insecure if they're not married.
That paper means a lot to them. Now, this woman
has got to be in your company. When you go
out to a club and all the broads start hitting

(25:32):
on you and she's shut him out because she has
no claims on you.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
Nobody has claims on anybody. You go to a club
if a woman has a ring on, do you know
any guys hit on a woman with a ring on?
Damn more? You know what common excuses?

Speaker 1 (25:48):
You know? Uh?

Speaker 5 (25:49):
Well, actually if they don't have a ring, how they say, well,
where's the ring? If you if you have the ring on? Uh,
I've know. I know the guys will see as a challenge.
I know women, I know. I don't want to Jim's.
I went to it was I thought it was a
very conservative group of people. They were all married, all
having affairs.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yeah, we anytime, we don't really go clubbing. But if
we go clubbing, he gets hit on everywhere we don't.
He gets hit on a lot of times they walk
right in front of me. I'm next to him, and
they pushed me out of the way to go I
talk to him.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
So you're right, don't go to clubs.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
So now they look at me day say, oh, there's
an old queen with money that's decent looking. So they
attacked me. But that's that's all bullsh young jerks.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Well, wait, I have a question for you though.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Then I have a gossip. I have fifty Do you
know Tristan Rogers, the soap opera actor?

Speaker 3 (26:41):
He won't know him, I don't think so. Very famous
General Hospitals Hospital for ninety years.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
I used to watch General Hospitals.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
His wife, His wife, Teresa, has said to me when
they go out, Yeah, the fans know that's his wife,
and they absolutely push her aside, get between her, to
flirt with him, to hit on him.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
And I said, Teresa, how do you feel about it?
She said, I will just let it happen. What am
I gonna do? That's this bread and butter? Do you
feel handsome?

Speaker 5 (27:19):
Mike?

Speaker 4 (27:20):
Do you feel being handsome is your bread and butter? Not?

Speaker 5 (27:25):
Really? No, and I don't. I don't think it's actually
served me in terms of money. No, it has not
served me.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
You don't think because of your looks?

Speaker 5 (27:35):
No, In fact, I've heard too many times that they're
not hiring me because of my looks. Why is that
either that or my agents like to me?

Speaker 8 (27:44):
So, does that mean as your two look looking for
the part because you're great looking? But I'm not the
one saying it. But depending on who's casting it, it
definitely affects. I know I've had a couple of shows
that the leading men did not want me to continue.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Oh, I believe that. I believe that told me.

Speaker 5 (28:07):
I'm only saying this as fact. I'm not saying this
as my opinion. So like, but going back to being
out and about see, I don't project the energy that
I am available to anyone. Maybe that maybe my eyes
are blind and I don't I don't actually see it.
People people might say, oh, you're you're checking you on?
I go, who is? I don't look for it and

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I don't see it.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
He doesn't know why, because we've had it all our life,
since I was seven or eight years old. I remember
my mother. We were on a train going to California,
and my mother met a bunch of women on the
train and they all said, Oh boy, when he grows up,
is he going to knock the women dead? Is he handsome?
He's a little Rudolph Valencino. So growing up, I've always

(28:52):
been told you're handsome, your handsome, you're handsome. The only
person who never said I was handsome was my wife.
I asked my wife one time, I said, do you
think I'm good looking? She said, wow, Well, if I
was walking down the street, I wouldn't turn around to
look at you. Twice and I divorced the bitch.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
There that's the way I have a question. Yeah, I
have a question.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Is your girlfriend is she? Is she in the entertainment industry?

Speaker 5 (29:23):
Yes? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (29:25):
So did she when you guys met, however you met,
did she know that you were, you know, a relatively
pretty successful movie and TV star.

Speaker 5 (29:32):
She didn't think much of me. I didn't think much
of me. I couldn't care less either. I'm not impressed
by if a person looks good, great, But if they're
an asshole, I couldn't care less what they look like.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
No, I agree with that. So that was keeping sure.
Hearty is your girlfriend?

Speaker 5 (29:56):
Or heart is she is? She is?

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Blonde, sexty, big boobs, great legs.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
All right, let's let's get onto this. Let's go, let's
get onto.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Talk about you though, So you guys. I met Steve
at at a convention called Mega con. It was a
long time ago. I don't know what, maybe two thousand
and six or so. It was a long time ago,
right that I make you long time, and everybody was
lining up, and he was nice to everybody, and that's
why he always used listen.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
I remember Steve from other shows that he's been I'm
gonna you're on us three times now right, our fourth,
four time? Yeah, And I remember you as an easygoing,
nice guy. That's why I play with you the way
I do. If you were stuck up with the ship,
I would never have, you know, asked you, or I
would never have done what I did. When they come

(30:50):
on in their attitude and they're like, I'm a star,
I'm handsome, don't talk to me.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
I don't give a shit. I don't, I don't. Audience
doesn't like him either.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
I bring out the honesty and guests and Steve, I
gotta tell you, you're an honest guy, and I trust you.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
I trust you with crazy questions. I trust you.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
Sometimes you got to be careful because the guests could
get mad and answer back nasty.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
Yeah, but you have fun.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Okay, is she a blonde?

Speaker 5 (31:27):
No, she's in the she's actually she's in the movie
as well.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
One more, the movie that we're going to see. Uh, so,
you guys, the last time Steve was on, we were
talking about a film of his called Altar, which is
on on to Be.

Speaker 9 (31:44):
Now he's got another one that just came up on
to Be. It's on it's on uh to be right,
not roky awesome fossome TV. And to B which I
don't know what that is. I think it's like a
I don't know anyways, what's her name?

Speaker 3 (32:00):
So the name of the movie is A shrink, a
flat and a Broken Key. Wait a minute, A shrink,
a flat, a flat and a broken key. What an
interesting title? So tell us then that something behind.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
The tile that I want to know about the shrink.
It's about a flat, it's about a broken key.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
Interesting title this movie.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
It's actually it's actually a lot of fun, even though
it's a thriller. It's a lot of fun.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeah. But that's a great title, thank you.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
So how did you come up with the title, Well,
it was a guy. My writing partner actually said, Greg
uses different last names for his for his writing, uh,
Greg k King Slat or Greg Michaels. He uses uses
different names all the time, so I get confused which
name to use. But anyways, Greg and I came up

(32:54):
with the concept.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
He wrote, he wrote the script when we decided to
pull the trigger because of circumstances, locations and those and
characters the way I wanted to ship the story, I
rewrote pretty much. I went through a whole the whole
script and rewrote it to fit the type of characters
I wanted to break in. Originally it was very poignant,

(33:19):
it was very politically charged. It was it was very
It was a very charge script to start. I wanted
to be a little more subtle with it. I wanted
to be a little bit more fun with it. I
didn't go as hard as I wanted to go, and
I don't want to talk about how hard it was.
I want to I originally I I really wanted to

(33:40):
be controversial, but I thought, you know, it's not the
place to be controversial. People can take from it what
they want. I still make some statements, but the original
idea was was Greg's and I and then Greg did
the meat of the work. About three months out. I
decided to rewrite to fit the characters I wanted, and
I completely change. I completely shifted the appearance and the

(34:04):
set and that and that kind of changed. It's just
there's literally stuff you wouldn't expect to happen happens.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
So I actually I have the overview. I took it
off of IMDb. Is that a good description should be? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (34:21):
All right.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
So Grace's unconditional love for her son Gordon turns into
a dangerous obsession as she fulfills his twisted desires. However,
their lives turn upside down when a stranger with car
troubles that's Steve, enters their isolated world. Gordon sees an
opportunity to improve his killing skills with the help of
the stranger, a criminal psychologist who's willing to teach Gordon

(34:43):
how to kill and not get caught in the exchange
for his life. But as their plan unfolds and Grace's
jealousy turns to betrayal, Gordon must confront the truth about
his past and decide whether it a break free from
his mother's grip or continue down a path of violence
and manipulation, this psychological thriller you guessing until the very end.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
Wow, that sounds good.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
Yeah, So you know, I read the synopsis, I kind
of like thought it was a I don't know, did
you ever see that movie mister Brooks, Yes, with Kevin Costner.
It made me think of that a little bit, not
exactly the same, but a little bit, you know, on
the fact that one person's willing to teach the other
one's to teach the other one because he gets blackmailed.
What are killed?

Speaker 4 (35:23):
What I'm happy about is it has a beginning, a middle,
and an end. It's called a story.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
It doesn't actually and if it does flow even though
I had to, I had to change courses a couple
of times prior to shooting, and then once during shooting
I had to I had to redirect the characters. I
was able to loop back and connect all the story points.
So I think because I literally changed the ending while shooting,

(35:53):
you might you might notice what I did. Hopefully no
one notices it, but it's not what you think. Let's
just let's just put it that way. It's about relationships.
It's about perception, you know, and not always judging a
book by its cover. Does it have a HITCHCLOCKI in ending,
I hope.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
So here's what we're gonna do, quite quiet. Can we
see it tonight?

Speaker 5 (36:19):
Yeah, we can see. It's free.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
You didn't watch it tonight, you guys.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
This movie is free. It's on TV on TV, so
is his other film Alter. So right now, while we're
gonna play the one that says, uh, shrink of flat
and a Broken Key trailer, I guess it says, or
it's the one that's the MP four, introduce it for us, Steve,
and then hang out. We're gonna play the trailer for everybody.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
Hanging on to your seats. Ladies and gentlemen. You're about
to watch A shrink of flat and a Broken key.
The trailer rat it all.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
Maybe it really need you'll come to know me this
fifty head.

Speaker 10 (37:06):
Runaway. If it wasn't for some bad luck, you might
not know me at all.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
My goodness, sweetheart, are you okay?

Speaker 10 (37:26):
I pray you never meet them.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
I'm sorry to bother you, but add some car trouble
down the road.

Speaker 10 (37:37):
The wolves in sheep's clothing, you gotta be a sure,
the demented who hide behind their God and their reason.

Speaker 5 (37:53):
Both local law enforcement and the NBI have enlisted in
my OPE as a profiler. Sounds like you have all
the answers to get away with ter I do by
hearing this right by me sparing your life, you're offering
to school me to be a better killer. If that's
okay with your mother.

Speaker 10 (38:14):
They're sick love. I like to do more than just
follow the camera this time my story. This story takes
place because of a shrink, a flat and a broken key.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
Yay, looks like a little bit of psycho in they're
with the kid with his mother. I love too much relations.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
I don't know who who who is that that plays Gordon.

Speaker 5 (39:10):
Jonah Stark. He's very he was a statement and he's uh,
he's he's a he's a he's a Baptist or Borgian Christian.
And we used his location and he'd been out of
the business for a little while, but I just remember him.
I thought this guy would be just the best psycho
because he's I spent about a month and a half

(39:34):
working with him before I decided to do it, and
I just wanted to see if I can get certain
things out of him, because that's not his nature. He's
like the sweetest person but by slowing him down, and
I gave him a couple of characters like, uh, we
worked on some physical tics and uh he was able
to sustain them and they seemed to work. So uh yeah,

(39:56):
he was the right essence for that character. Originally it
was supposed to be white trash tattooed wearing a proud
us A hat guns Jesus you know America that it was.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Better, though you didn't do it that way and make
the normal looking person whose psycho is way scarier.

Speaker 5 (40:19):
He's literally he's beautiful inside and out. Like he's one
of the most beautiful people. The kid is just genetically
gifted as well, but he's he's such he's such a
sweet person to work with and trying to do a
little indie like that with with like we talked about
ego or anything like that. You're it's it's next to
impossible to pull off finishing a movie, let alone with

(40:41):
someone that has an ego or is you know right?

Speaker 3 (40:45):
So, Yeah, I think it's great. I think you have
a good movie there.

Speaker 5 (40:51):
Yeah. I mean I think so too. I think this
story flows given the real a lot of obstacles. I
had an edit who was my camera guy who just
would not listen to me. And I found out after
the fact when I'm looking at dailies he was moving
the camera during the shot. I was literally watching the monitors, script, supervising, producing,

(41:11):
I was doing everything writing on the day, setting the shot, rehearsing,
and then I come to find out he's moving the
damn camera. So I had to work with what I
with what I had. I didn't get exactly what I
wanted for the movie. I had a TV version, a
director's cart, and then I had a really gory version,
but because of the inability to manage this one person,

(41:35):
he lost the TV version. I had a TV cut
which I could have sold for licensing. So and also
I had a more of sort of that gore fandom
version that I was going to I had an extra
couple buckets of blood I didn't have, didn't get to
use because it was so much time was managing a personality,

(41:57):
and then in the editing, same thing.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
It was.

Speaker 5 (42:00):
It was literally like pulling teeth every every day. I
had to sit with him in every cut. But you
felt talented, talented guy when he was, but he just
didn't want to. I don't know what it was about him,
so I didn't get an egotistical actor. I had a passive,
aggressive camera guide editor.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
Audiences today are board to death with kickboxing, car crashes
and all that shit. Now audiences are starving for stories.
We all talk about it in the business. Everybody now
that does horror movies is starting to turn around and
make stories with horror, not just slash slash slash.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
With no sense.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
So what's happening is anyone that's got a story has
a hit movie.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
I think it's going to be an issue as long
as people like know about it, because.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
It's got a story and it looks like an interesting story.

Speaker 5 (42:55):
Which I want to say, Yeah, sorry.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
I was going to say, I'm going to segue into
a different conversation from there, because you said you worked
with him for six weeks before you you even like
worked with him, which segisuates into the fact that you know,
you're also a script supervisor that can fix scripts, and
you also teach people how to act, and you've been
doing it for a long time, and you're in some
really huge things. So I thought we could I don't

(43:19):
know that we ever haven't really talked at all about
the fact that you actually teach acting. You know to
people who I love.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
That do want to look acting.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
I don't believe that.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
I actually I haven't.

Speaker 5 (43:30):
I'm very bad at the promotion. So just right now
I'm just coaching a couple of people that won. My
daughter brought in and she actually she's been with me
for nine months. She's really booked a couple of things.
She came from a full time program and I'm gonna
say what school it was. It was a full time program,
and I had to educate her. And then she brought

(43:52):
a friend and neither of him and they're both they
both started to get they're both starting to get it.
And that's less than a year in once a week.
That's perfect. So the thing is, but it was interesting.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
You don't really call it teaching though it's coaching. There's
a difference between coaching and people.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
So you cannot teach anyone to act. I don't believe
in that. You can show them the tricks to the trade.
But the best actors I know have never taken a lesson.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
It's in them.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
Carol Burnett is one. Her commit of talent was never taught.
She was Yeah, and I know a lot of actors
from my day. I can't think of one right now.
But like Rock Hutts and people like that, they were
not taught to act. They just became who they were

(44:41):
their personalities.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Did you take acting lessons growing up or did you
just start acting? Like, how did you actually get into
doing all this?

Speaker 5 (44:49):
Well, I actually that's one of the reasons why I
never wanted to coach or teach anybody, because well, what
I soon realized was, well, no, seriously, it took me
quite a few years to to get out of being
coached or being being directed by someone who's not doing
what I want to do. A lot of them are
actors who don't work, and their system is about their ego.

(45:12):
Has gotten nothing to do with the practical aspect of
human psyche. It's got nothing to do with the camera.
So the way I I I will disagree and agree
with you, Ron, I think that I've been I've proven
I can teach people how to act because I've worked
with people I thought there's no way I could I
could help these people as they came from musical theater

(45:34):
and they were terrible. Within a year they became still,
they became themselves and they and they became real in
the moment. So I had to do that. It wasn't
that that they could do that instinctually.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
I had.

Speaker 5 (45:46):
Well, in a sense, it was like I was giving them.
I was letting them know it was okay for them
to be their authentic self in a made up situation.
I just heard it. I just heard a very successful
actor talk about that you don't have to take classes.
Is all you have to do is read the script
two d two hundred and fifty times. You don't have
to do all this work. And I'm like, yeah, yes

(46:07):
and no, yes and no. If you know the materials
so well that you just become the material, great, They
just live in that circumstance. You live in that circumstance
because you absorbed it in the mud. That's okay for
an elist. Because they got three months, six months to
prepare for a role. We get what the night before.

(46:29):
So there is a respect that I think I didn't
have for the craft. I do have more respect for
it now. That's only because I've married human psyche. What
we are, what we as human beings are, and the
craft of acting. Otherwise, I don't think i'd stay in
this business because I think it's full of shit. If

(46:50):
I'm being honest. Okay, so you can remember stuff.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
On one night, Like if you get something, I'll script
the night before and you have to go shoot, you
can do that. I guess TV. You do a lot
of TV.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
Well, yes, yeah, you have to. You haven't got a choice.
But there's ways.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
I think. I think.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
What what I try to do for people is I
create I try to create a system that they can
It's like a skeleton, and now you can apply yourself
to the framework of the skeleton so that you can
hang yourself better. And if somebody gives you a script
the night before, you know what steps to take so
you can become efficient at finding out the most important
aspect of that scene, of that story and how to

(47:31):
be how to be in it, you know. And it
took me. I mean I was asked to create a
program about eight years ago, ten years ago. I never
really thought about it out loud. I would just tell people,
don't go to acting classes, read read shirt lifts, audition.
Michael Came wrote a book about acting for film. Meisner

(47:53):
is a good one too. But then there's Stella, Adler, Uda,
hogg In, Stanslavski. They all have there, all they are.
All they are is a bunch of people who've been
aware enough to make an observation about how to communicate
somebody else's idea. But how do you know how to
communicate an idea? How do you know what you're doing?
You have to know who you are. So the first

(48:14):
thing I tell people is know who you are, accept
who you are, and share who you are. And that's
all about awareness. It's about being aware, being in the
moment as much as possible. So worst case scenario, if
you're on a set and you don't know shit, but
you're present, that's way better than chopping up the scene,
breaking it down and doing all the acting work. Ultimately,

(48:37):
you do all the work so you can literally be present,
so you can just be in the moment. So it's
kind of one of those it's a paradox because you
don't want to show the work, but the work would
be basically knowing who you are so you can give
yourself to whatever that situation is, whether it's nineteen eighty,

(48:59):
whether it's eighteen.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
How were you when you started, Like, when was your
very first thing? What was the first thing you ever did?

Speaker 5 (49:06):
Jump Street? I did a guest start on twenty one.
Jump Street was my first thing. I think it was
in ninety one.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Oh my god, I love twenty one Jump Street.

Speaker 5 (49:16):
Johnny Depp was gonna Johnny Depp was gone.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
That was weird.

Speaker 5 (49:21):
So it was a guy named Michael Bendettie was the
guy I worked with.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
Okay, it was when some young people ask me questions
like run, what do you do to act? What makes
you an actor? So what makes me an actor? Here's
what makes me an actor. I read it, I think
about it, and I become it. Mitchel am I right,

(49:47):
read the script. You think about who you are and
what you're going to do, and then you become the character.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
It's all I do.

Speaker 5 (49:55):
I agree, Yes, what I do? I give them more
specific tools to do those three things.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
That's perfect.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
But years ago, that was in the nineteen fifties. That's
how actors were trained. You have to become the part.
There's nothing worse than a fake actor or an actor
who's actor.

Speaker 5 (50:23):
Let's just fake. Right now, everything is about a we
need this composition, we need this funny moment. But there's
no continuity to it. There's no there's no connection between
the characters because because they haven't they haven't, they haven't
given themselves enough to the moment.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
It's although I don't do enough rolls a minute, they say,
roll them. I'm no longer who I am. I've become
who I'm reading.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
I really do. I go into a trends tell you
guys too, though, if you're a Steve Basic fan, if
you and you go on to But he's got another
movie on there called The Haunting at Silver Yeah, and
it's pretty good. I actually so, I have this publication
called Dark Fright's Magazine. It's it's becoming one of the
bigger horror magazines in the world. And I do a

(51:13):
little eight minute podcast with it, and I on Monday's show,
I did a Steve Basic episode where I did I
did a shrink of flat and a broken Key, and
I did a Haunting at Silver Falls, and I got
like five thousand views you know on it. You know already.
I don't promote you or anything. I just put it
up there. But but I said, you know, for fans

(51:35):
of Steve Basic, he's a great guy, and like, really
you have not You're one of the only actors I
know kind of well that's not hasn't been pigeonholed, like
you're doing Hallmark stuff. You're doing horror stuff, you do
superhero stuff. You've basically done everything. You haven't been pigeonholed
to only be a actor or only be a hallmarket actor.

Speaker 5 (51:55):
Yeah, I just I just did some comedy too, so yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
And side far I mean, because like what you were
a stargate Stargate Uh, you did all the like what
did you do on Legends of Tomorrow? I leased to
love that show. Oh that was actually the trouble back
in time. It was during the prospecting times. I played
some landlord that was really new to his workers, just

(52:21):
a horrible human being. I love that show, and like
one of our best shows that we've ever had. It
was with John Berreman and John Barreman played the dark
Archer in Arrow and he was like and he was
also what's that show about the fucking telephone Doctor Who?
He had his own spinoff show from Doctor Who because
he was still popular.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
We opened the show and there's John with a blow
up doll tongue kissing her.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
That's what he did when we bought him on.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
People like, well, that's your writing. You would not believe
the writing was outrage you blow up woman doll. I
like all of it.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
So so Don has joined us in the chat room.
She's one of the people who thinks you're swell. So
just give a high and say hi to Dawn for me.

Speaker 5 (53:15):
Then there you go.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
So, so, you guys, here's some of the things that
you might have seen Steven. These these movies Shrink of
Flatt and a Broken Key and Alter. These are his movies.
You know, he put them together, you know, raised the
funding or whatever. Howard he did the funding and stuff.
So they're like, you know, independent films. But he's also
been in so many huge, non independent like huge things.

(53:41):
But here's some of the TV shows. First of all,
Ron's daughters loved that show, Virgin River. I didn't even
know you were on that in that according to dimdb
or in eight episodes of it. Uh, he was recently
on track of you guys, that's the Justin Hartley TV show.
You were great in that and you weren't pretty. They're
gonna make you pretty in that one. But you guys,

(54:03):
he's he's inna like all these t guard mystery movies.
He's in Alton of them, the garage sale mysteries. I
think that is all that Hallmark stuff. Is that Home
of those are Hallmark shows.

Speaker 5 (54:12):
Yeah, yeah, you earing a million of them.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
He was in the Nancy Drew TV show, Van Helsing
TV show, Win Calls, The Heart Made, the one hundred
DC Legends of Tomorrow, Wilderness, Sight Unseen, supernatural Er, Julian,
The Phantoms, The.

Speaker 5 (54:26):
Order n C I n C I s l A.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
He's also uh. He was Hank McCoy and X two
X Men United And to me, that's his biggest, uh,
biggest non role, biggest non role of your career. That
that I so wish you would have been become him.
And then they.

Speaker 5 (54:46):
If they hadn't changed directors between that movie the next one,
I would have been Ank McCoy. Brian Singer would have
brought me back as Hank. That's that's his business. And
so listen, when you get success great, When you don't
get success great.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
Yeah, but you guys are so much You're lucky. You
fellas are lucky your generation. If I were your age today,
I'd be working my ass off also. But the time
that I came from, you had three major stars in
the movie and you were lucky if you got in
there as an extra or as a walk on or whatever. Today,

(55:26):
so many people are doing so many things on so
many different vehicles. My dad was a movie camera, a
theater film so you were limited in your workability. Yeah,
but really was shot I were thirty five years old, today,
i'd be all over.

Speaker 5 (55:46):
Every time has had his challenge. So while there was
less opportunity, there was also less actors. Now personality, every
personality is an actor. There's YouTubers who are starting a
TV series. There's mma fighters, there a football players, there's rappers.
Right now, it's all about numbers as it has always been.

(56:06):
But like these guys said earlier, you know, we celebrate
people who do nothing in a show, and that means
they're just being simple and they're just being human versus
this explosions or graphics or whatever. So while we have
so much more, there's way less good storytelling.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
There's way less good story You can't find anything like
everything that we look at at and we're like, that's
the same story since when we see someone, when.

Speaker 5 (56:39):
You see someone doing something simple and good, you go wow.
But really that's just the way it should be, you know,
like we should never we should never be watching a
show going I'm watching a show. I watch a show
to be pulled out of my reality and pushing into
another reality that we don't want to. And that's the
thing is, like, if anything bumps me, I go, how

(57:01):
do we fix the bump? I don't want I don't
want to knock someone out out of the movie. I
don't want to knock someone out of a show. So
even though if I'm on a set that I'm not
part of, if I see something, I respectfully try to go, hey,
what about this? Because you know, going back to being prepared,
I don't believe in knowing just my stuff. I want
to know the story so I can actually contribute fully

(57:23):
to the truth of the story versus just the truth
of my character.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
And that requires work. I don't think many people do
that either.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
Steve bottom line, we do not have good writers anymore period.

Speaker 5 (57:39):
Where varieties are with the wind.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
I don't know where the hell they went. But the
writers that used to write about human people, you know,
human nature.

Speaker 5 (57:48):
Yeah, I actually, I don't excuse me.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
Now, it's I need forty million dollars because I'm blowing
up the empire state building. That's my movie. Okay, here's
forty million dollars.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
Who's in it? Brad?

Speaker 4 (58:06):
Okay, here's another forty million. Who else, Angelina Jolie, here's
another forty million, and they make the Piece of Shit
and you see these two stars in it for one minute,
and you watch the Empire State Building fall down and
crushed half in New York City. Yeah, and that's the movie.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
I agree with what he's saying, except for I don't
believe that the writers aren't there. I just believe people
are afraid to risk the money on no because I
read a lot of good scripts.

Speaker 5 (58:34):
No.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
In my day, writers wrote novels, and the novels became movies.
Today we don't have novel writers that make movies.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
We just have writings.

Speaker 5 (58:47):
That's exactly what we have. The limited series are usually
based on books.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Books.

Speaker 5 (58:52):
Yeah, there's like six to eight episode limited series, which
is the big crazy now on Amazon.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Netflix has some You know how many friends I have
that are writers. You go out to dinner with them.

Speaker 5 (59:05):
No, I thought.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
I happened to have a nephew who's a writer. You
go out to dinner with them and the waiter falls
down and they ride away take out a pad. Oh
that's a good movie. The Way to Fell Down. I mean,
let's shoot it tomorrow. This is what it's all about.

Speaker 5 (59:28):
Yeah, yeah, it's an idea. It's the same thing somebody goes, oh,
I have a great idea for a script. No, you
just have an idea. You don't have a great idea
for a script. You have an idea. That's it. It's
the skip.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
You have to you have to get people's interest.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
I think it's I think that's true.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
But why do you think they think Bryl Streep is
such a big deal. You know why she's a big deal.
She only does wonderful scripts. She doesn't play in shitties scripts.
So it's not her that's so wonderful. It's a script.
We could put Susan surrounding in that part and she'd
be just as wonderful. Yeah, a script, it's an actor.

Speaker 5 (01:00:16):
Yeah, it's it's there's a big, massive collaboration and trust
because you can have a great script, great director, but
the editor messes it up, or the soundtracks terrible, the
producers want to do a re edit. It's collaborative, so
there's so many things that can fuck it up.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
Do you remember the French Lieutenant's Woman.

Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
I don't remember the movie. No, I mean I don't
remember it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
The white was the best one of the best writings
of all time. Yeah, and she was brilliant in it
all because everything everybody anywhere. Yep, it was wonderful.

Speaker 5 (01:00:57):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
Also, let's brag a little bit for you, because we've
only got a couple of minutes left. First of all,
I just want I'm going to tell you, so you
work all the time. I think it's terrific. But if
you became social media savvy, which I know you hate you,
you could be like the biggest, like leading man ever
because your social media numbers just are not are not

(01:01:19):
strong because you're so talented, you're so good, and you're
in so many you know things that you really need
to like either work on it or you need to
find somebody just to do it for you. And you
need to let somebody like build your social media because
because you know you're working, you work all the time anyway.
But I think you would even work more and you
would have a bigger, you know, fan base from all

(01:01:39):
of it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:42):
I have the same issue with you. Sorry, I was
gonna say, I have the same issue with what I'm
trying to do with with my idea of what acting
is and trying to create a course maybe even a
book around it, because I also want to talk about
the human condition. You can't have one about the other.
You can't, you know. I think acting is studying the

(01:02:03):
being in the human condition fully. So my issue again
is the steps necessary to I don't want to be famous.
That's the problem I'm on this sure, I'm doing a podcast.
I don't want to be famous. I don't want everyone
to know who I am. I don't. I don't like
putting personal stuff out.

Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
You're crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
So the idea of social media I'm posting all the time,
or showing what I'm eating or doing, I just find
it painful. It's so painful to do. I don't mind
talking about acting. I can talk about acting for hours.
I can talk about the craft for hours. I can debate,
I can philosophize. But I but that is truly You're right.

(01:02:45):
It's like I got to get over that so I
can reach a bigger audience because I.

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
Want to listen Steve, Steve, listen to me, Listen to
the old fuck okay, listen to me. We go out
to five million million people all over the world. They
now know about your movie. If it wasn't for this
show and social media, they wouldn't know about it, So

(01:03:11):
you've got to be social. Listen, people say to me, Ron,
how come Jimmy's all over the place and you are not,
I say, because I'm still learning how to use my
cell phone. I don't know how to use this shit.
I don't know how to be in social media. And
you know who cares at eighty five years old, Come on,
give me a break, there's.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Real, young I actually want. I actually took your trailer.
I was going to put it on all my socials,
but I wanted to make sure it was okay before
I did that. Because I can put it on my
social pay Here's what I'm going to ask.

Speaker 5 (01:03:46):
Actually, I will do a little promo here if I mean,
I'm hoping everyone watches it, that's watching it right now,
and if you like it, thumbs up, and please send
it to it. Send the trailer because it's pretty to
a friend, and keep sending it, and just keep sending it.
Because if I do get you know, I'm at the
place where I'm okay being who I am right now

(01:04:07):
and not being in the business. But if I do,
if I do get involved in something else, another production,
this will help me motivate me to do something more
with this industry, meaning tell another I do have an idea.
I have a great idea that I could shoot for
a series. It's the stuff I like to do is
dark comedy. And even when you watch this trailer, or

(01:04:32):
not the trailer, but the movie, I try to infuse
a little bit humor, even though it's a thriller. I
always try to use humor. But I've got a couple
of ideas for how to approach this business that isn't
the typical Hollywood model. So if there are people out
there they like my stuff and Jimmy and Ron, I
appreciate any help. Like I said to you, Jimmy, I

(01:04:54):
would work on anything you're doing. I would come in
and help out. If you want my ideas, I will
collab any day. So yeah, I appreciate.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
But I'm going to put your trailer on my TikTok
and on my Instagram because like that'd be great. I
get like ten thousand views pretty much on everything.

Speaker 5 (01:05:13):
To do a haunting, because I still actually a haunting.
That was what I executive produced. I didn't I that
was a macro. That's a massive script that I and
I would go in daily and I would. I would
trim the scenes for the director so I still get
I still get paid if that sucker is scene covid.
Has Covid actually helped me on that one, but yes,

(01:05:36):
absolutely put him out if you can, and who knows,
maybe maybe I will collab on something. And if if
people already.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
Did remember Steve it pays to advertise.

Speaker 5 (01:05:47):
I'm also advertising right now.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
People. I just texted you the link to the Dark
Fright's Horn is where I did a show about you.

Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
Okay, I'm going to text you back. And if people
are interested, even if there's actors out there, because I'm me,
I may hold a zoom class teaching my method.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
My method it's called the system.

Speaker 5 (01:06:12):
So if there are people out there that are interested
in what I teach and they're they're interested in acting,
i'd be I am willing to teach anyone, but they
have it's the only the only prerequisite is that they
actually will put into work. I put in a lot
of thought and energy into what I do, and if
somebody is not giving it back, it's a waste of time.

(01:06:33):
But feel free, feel free to share. Not my my personally,
but but I have one for the uh. The actors
gym at gmail dot com. I'll send you a text.
If you want to post it in your description, I'll
put it with the description.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
Don't worry. I'll never give anybody your personal information. I
mean already, like every time you come on the show,
probably thirty people like ask me to get in touch
with you. So they well, yeah, like it's crazy female.
Maybe for a good price, it's gonna be an end.

Speaker 5 (01:07:07):
The proposal has.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
To women are one of those wet women out there.

Speaker 4 (01:07:13):
Weren't no personal information for five hundred dollars, I'll send it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:19):
No, you're you're looking. See that's nineteen fifties money we got,
we got to live in twenty twenty five. We're talking.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
Yeah, one hundred.

Speaker 5 (01:07:26):
Thousand, five dollars for a coke. I know it's crazy,
So you're right about that. So you guys wanting Steve
WHATM though?

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
Steve Basic Official b a c IC official. Follow him
on his Instagram. He's a really cool guy. He doesn't
post on it very much, but I'm going to kind
of like make him start posting shit because it really
wouldn't be that hard for him to just at least
put up things saying here's the link to see my movie.
And you know this movie's out and you have so
many things going on because you have plenty of stuff
to promote, to make yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
I mean, if you want to this movie, he should
promote a lot. I think it's going to be a hurt.

Speaker 5 (01:08:03):
I just did I want to tell I just did
a show. Uh it's for Peacock.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:08:09):
It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 6 (01:08:09):
It was.

Speaker 5 (01:08:10):
It was a great cast. It's called The Minture Wife
with a Matthew McFadden and uh Elizabeth Banks. Oh I
love her, but there Yeah, I didn't get a chance
to work with the two of them, but it was.
I'm really hoping they come back. Great great funny dramedy,

(01:08:34):
well written, well acted, great director, great producers. So this
is one that I'm going, come on, man, get let's
get a second season and let's hopefully they bring me back.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
We should also everybody should black Way because Blackway, you guys,
it's a great cast. Raleo to Alexander Ludway, Julius Styles,
Anthony Hopkins, Steve Basics.

Speaker 5 (01:08:57):
Yeah, he was awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
I saw a picture on your eye, MDB or someplace
with you and him hanging out. And so everybody should
check that one out. But see everything. He's in the
remake of The Virginian. He's worked with Raylioto a couple
of times, haven't you, Yes, sir, Yeah, it's very cool.
Check out the movies that are on Roku, I mean
on two b you guys. A Shrink of Flat and
a Broken Key is the one we will showed you
the trailer for today. Steve will be in touch. I'll

(01:09:20):
talk to you later, and thanks for coming out the show.

Speaker 5 (01:09:24):
Seeing you, and thank you for being us. You too, Hey, baby,
let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
That's right, all right, all.

Speaker 9 (01:09:33):
Right, nay, if anyone's got season tickets, I'm coming down.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
To Detroit, Detroit, him in Detroit. All right, We'll talk
to you later, guys. Bye bye, Hey you guys. So
that's Steve Basic again. The name of the movies, A
Shrink of Flat and the Broken Key just came out
on to be a couple of days ago, so please
check it out. He's really just the coolest guy ever.
I mean, I'm I feel, you know, I don't know

(01:10:02):
if it's blessed is the word, but I'm just happy
to have him as a friend. We talk all the time,
and you know, and from somebody who I met at
a convention, you know, to us being a little bit
more like peers. It's very cool. So it's a lot
of fun, all right, So we're gonna do a quick
a quick Uh, actually, maybe we're not, I think because

(01:10:24):
Melanie is here, So let's just bring our next guest on.
How's that you're ready? Let's bring her in? Hello? Hello,
how are you? I'm good?

Speaker 5 (01:10:36):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
So?

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
Hang on? Let me introduce you. Hey, everybody, now we
want to welcome to the Jimmy Star Show with Ron Russell. Actress, dancer,
stage actress, Final Girls superstar Melanie Kenneman. Hello, and welcome
to the show. Than you.

Speaker 6 (01:10:53):
Thanks for inviting me.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
Coming because I know everybody in horror just about it.
You're one of the only people that I've never actually met,
so we're very happy to have you on the show.
This is my cool, outurageous man about town co host
Ron Russell.

Speaker 6 (01:11:09):
I'm so surprised we haven't met.

Speaker 5 (01:11:11):
I am too.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
We're Facebook friends, but that's not the same thing as
but we've had.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
The reason you've never met is you don't travel the
gut is like Jimmy, I might soon.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
You never I've been a big horror fan for my
whole life, and this show has been going on for
this our seventeenth year. We didn't even we didn't have it.
There was no such thing as a podcast when we started.
It was just considered a radio show back then.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
On a podcast where we saw the people.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
Oh yeah, we started out there without seeing the people.
But the first show to have guests on, like yeah,
we were the first people to do video podcasting because everybody, everybody, everybody.
When we started the show on our station W four
c Y, they brought us in and they were surprised
how many people tuned in, and they after two weeks

(01:12:04):
we went from a fifty minute show to an hour
and fifty minute show. And all we did was bring on.
At the beginning, it was all horror stars. I mean
every horror star you know. We've had Freddy Krueger and
Pinhead and Clive Barker, We've had everybody, because that's really
my thing that I like a lot, and I produced
a lot of horror movies, so we hadn't had you,
and I was super excited when you said yes. And

(01:12:25):
before we talk about horror, first, we have a chat
room with people, say hi, to everybody in the chat room.

Speaker 6 (01:12:30):
Hi, everybody nice there you go. Almost see you?

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
Yes, almost see you. So I want to bring up
a movie and you're not even in it, but you're
supposed to be in it. So my favorite go to
feel good movie is called best of the Best We've had. Kay,
I'm friends. I'm really pretty good friends with Caine Hunter,
and we've had Eric Roberts on the show. And I
watched it like before I knew you were coming on

(01:12:55):
even I was like watching it, and then I went
on your IMDb we were coming on and I saw
that you're in credits of it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
And I went back and I watched it again and
I was like, where is she?

Speaker 5 (01:13:06):
The look?

Speaker 6 (01:13:06):
Is she so annoying? It's so annoying. Yes, I had
fifteen callbacks for that audition. I so wanted that job.
They put me through the ringer. I got it. I
play Eric Robert's girlfriend. And they decided, after all was
said and done, that they needed to make more room
for the action, meaning the fights, all the action, so

(01:13:32):
they got rid of the love part.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
And that was me because at first I thought maybe
you were the guy the girl that Chris Penn grabs
the ass of and I was just and that you
just look different or something.

Speaker 5 (01:13:43):
I was like trying to figure it out, and I
was like, okay, so it makes.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
Me happy because look, I literally watched I've seen the
movie one hundred times. It's one of my favorite movies.
And the fact that you're not in it, even though
it says you were in it on IMDb in in
the credits. I watched the end of the movie the credit.

Speaker 6 (01:13:58):
I know, well, thank god him the credits because I
still get residuals. But yeah, I I mean, they were
great scenes. I asked for please yes, because no, because
I know this is going to go way out there,
but a lot of it was Eric Robert's fault, so

(01:14:19):
I'm going to leave it at that. There was a
personal reason, Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
In question, did they pay you?

Speaker 5 (01:14:25):
Yeah, of course, she said.

Speaker 6 (01:14:28):
Of course they paid me, and it was great shoot,
and I was thrilled.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
I so wanted this role.

Speaker 6 (01:14:32):
I mean, Eric Roberts was one of my favorite actors
and it was a great role for me. And like
I said, they put me through.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
When that movie came out too, he was a huge star.
He was like on top of the world.

Speaker 6 (01:14:46):
That's right, that's right, so you know, And they didn't
tell me that I was cut until the cast and
the crew screening. I brought my agent. We were all excited.
We're sitting there, it starts to roll. I nudged my agent.
I said, here's my first scene coming up. Nothing. Wait wait, wait.
Three quarters into the film, I say, oh, they have

(01:15:08):
to have this nothing. Yeah, So they didn't even tell me.
It was a big shock and the director.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
Came was very disappointing.

Speaker 6 (01:15:16):
Then, oh, I can't even tell you what I went through.
And the director came up to me after the screening
and said, you were so great in this. Welcome to
Hollywood is I don't need to tell you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
Yes, Hollywood is ship And there are various characters in Hollywood, especially.

Speaker 4 (01:15:36):
Probably the most the thing that all actors fear is
being cut.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
What happens a lot because we've had a lot of
people on the show where they say that they've been
cut out of different things. And even He's had stuff
that he's been in where it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
Was I've done some pretty good stuff. It never crossed
I knew I did good.

Speaker 6 (01:16:00):
Was they never crossed my mind when doing this thing.
And I thought, well, at least though if they cut anything,
it'll be a few things. It's not going to be
the whole freaking role because it was a love interest,
the only love interest for him, and so it was
a shock. But how kind of them to leave me
in the credits.

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
Yes, actually that is great because of the residuals, I'm
sure and I and that was a huge I mean
as a as a martial arts film. It's probably one
of the best known martial arts films ever that there is.

Speaker 4 (01:16:32):
And I literally, you know what the embarrassment is when
friends say to you, Oh, I'm going to watch the
movie you're in. You said I was cut. I got
such an embarrassment because you know, you.

Speaker 6 (01:16:45):
Know what's worse when you say you did this film
and you're not in the credits and there's no there's
nothing remotely are lying?

Speaker 5 (01:16:55):
Yeah, that one's actually worse.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
That one's worse.

Speaker 6 (01:16:58):
Because I have a few of those. I'm not in
it at all, there are no credits, and so I
actually stopped saying I did it and it was some
great stuff, but you know, they think you're lying.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
So so where are you actually from?

Speaker 6 (01:17:10):
New York? Well, Massachusetts, Western Chusetts. And then I moved
to New York City at a young age and started
working professionally there. So I always spark a New York girl,
I love you. I'm from New York.

Speaker 5 (01:17:23):
I love it.

Speaker 6 (01:17:24):
Yeah, so it's mhm.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
I mean you totally look New York.

Speaker 6 (01:17:32):
Oh well that's a compliment, so thank you very much.

Speaker 5 (01:17:36):
He loved it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
And you look very much like a dancer, like you
still built like a dancer?

Speaker 4 (01:17:41):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:17:43):
Yes, I still dance, and I teach sometimes I give
private lessons because it's fun and it keeps you in shape.
And you know, I used to teach kids, all kinds
of people, and now I've limited to teenage girls that
want to be professionals.

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:17:58):
It's more fun, it's more engagement to have people that
are serious.

Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
You know, how did you So, how's your love life?

Speaker 6 (01:18:06):
It's great as long as I stay away from Eric Roberts.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
She said, it's great as long as she stays away
from Eric Roberts.

Speaker 5 (01:18:16):
Said, there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:18:22):
To be one of the strangest people I've ever worked with.
He really is a strange guy. But his sister is
a lunatic, so it's okay.

Speaker 6 (01:18:32):
He's the reason I got cut from the film, but
we won't get into that story because I'm writing a
book and there after on him. I have a chapter
on Nicholas Cage and I have the whole chapter on
Harvey Weinstein, the fiasco of my life with that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
So well, when you when the book comes out, let
me know we'll come back, Okay, I'll promote that. That's funny.
I love that kind. I love that gossipy ship.

Speaker 5 (01:18:54):
I don't know you.

Speaker 4 (01:18:55):
Harvey Weinstein. Back in the eighties, Oh, every opening in
Beverly Hills, so we're opening up a garage door and
he was there.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
Ron and I have so Ron used to have a
TV show called Set the Record Straight. He was best
his best friends with Jane Russell, and he knew Elizabeth
Taylor and Betty Davis and all those older people. Laura
and I was and I was always being with the
like eighties people, so like I was friends with Corey
Ham and Corey Fellman and all the my friends. And

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so we combined and we got married and combined the show,
and so we bring on a little bit of everything.
And you've been around doing so what made you decide
to become an entertainer in the first place?

Speaker 6 (01:19:39):
You know, people closest with me know that my idol
is Dick Van Dyke because he can do every wow.
Since I was seven, I just idolized Dick Van Dyke
and Julie Andrews, believe it or not, also working yes,
also on Broadway, Joel Gray and Burnett Peaks. Those are
my idols. So I started as a singer dancer, and

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that propelled me into the New York stage, and that
is why I wanted to become an actress. Really, but
I started out in musical theater.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
Didn't you meet Bernadette Peters and tell her she was
going to be famous or something.

Speaker 4 (01:20:14):
I met Bernadette Peters many times. The first time I
met her was in a fabric store down in the village.
I was shopping fabric for whatever, and she was this
little girl who was very sweet, and she was there
with her sister, Oh, and we got to talking and
I said, what do you do? And she said, I'm
a singer and I'm going to be on a Broadway

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show called James at Sea. And I said, you know what,
I have a feeling about you. I think you're going
to be a great star one day.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
So that that was it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:47):
Now years later, she's a star. And I went to
see Blackbeard with Richard Burton and Manhattan, and when we
came out of the theater, Bernadette was there with a
guy and I stopped her and I said, Hi, remember
me from the fabric store And she looked. She said,
you won't believe it, but I do.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:21:07):
Let's get out of here. She said, you said that
I was going to be a great star. I said,
well you are, Bernadette. She said, thank you so much,
very sweet girl.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
Yes.

Speaker 6 (01:21:18):
And her cousin turned out to me one of my
makeup artists on Friday the thirteenth, and then everything I
did after I brought him on because he was so great.
God rest his soul. He died three years ago. But
Lulizara her real name, last name is Lazzara Loulis.

Speaker 4 (01:21:35):
I used to buy their Italian bread, made the best
Italian bread, yep. And that's who her.

Speaker 6 (01:21:41):
Father was, Peter Peter Lazzara. That's the family. And I
just I just think she's the greatest, most incredible voice,
just a great.

Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
Person, very down to her, very nice girl.

Speaker 6 (01:21:53):
I also Leanne Warren. She was somebody that I aspired
to be.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
Oh, I like learn a lot. Actually I just invited
her on the show.

Speaker 6 (01:22:02):
But I love I love Leslie and Moore and so
she's a wonderful person.

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
So were you a fan of horror movies before you booked?
Friday the thirteenth?

Speaker 5 (01:22:13):
We'll seeing the other?

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
Have you even seen because you're in the fifth one?
But did you see the other four?

Speaker 4 (01:22:18):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:22:18):
I didn't even know what it was when I went
to the audition. Then they told me, because they were
interested in me, that it was a Friday the thirteenth,
which meant nothing to me anyway. So I got it
pretty quickly. I had only two auditions and they gave it,
you know, they cast me and then I said, well, listen,
I don't know anything about this. I'm not really a
horror fan. They said, well, don't tell anybody that, and

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I said, so compare amount. Give me part four. So
they gave me a screening of private screening of part
four so that I would know what I'm doing. Yeah,
and Kimberly Beck is a friend of mine, so it
was kind of nice to see her do her thing
in part four. But it gave me, you know, the
the education of what I had ahead of me.

Speaker 4 (01:22:59):
I did, like you're a horror actress, right you are?

Speaker 5 (01:23:06):
You aren't basically, but well you're like me.

Speaker 4 (01:23:08):
I'm a horror actor and I hate them.

Speaker 6 (01:23:12):
My only the only movie that I like it's not
quite horror is Exorcist. The Exorcist to me is the greatest.

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
Uh, that's a great movie.

Speaker 5 (01:23:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
So I'm a big I'm a big horror movie fan.
I'm producing a bunch of horror movies right now, bigger
budget horror movies, and I collect so my one of
my very first things that I ever got in my
horror movie collection, I have a six and a half
foot Jason animatronic Jason. You know, I like, I have
like really good, you know stuff, And we've had I

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was very very good friends with Steve dash who was
actually Jason in the second one Where Were the Bag.
He was a very good friend of mine in Florida.
I used to live in Florida near him. And we've
had everybody who's played Jason on the show. We have
and I'm pretty much friends with most of them. And
we've had a lot of the actresses. I have not
had a lot of people from Friday the thirteenth, the

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new Beginning on the show, You're only on second one
because we've had we had Corey Fellman on the show.
But I think it's a great franchise. And if you
were gonna not like Horror, but you were going to
be in a franchise, Friday the thirteenth is probably the
best one to be in because everybody you think they're
gonna keep going with it.

Speaker 6 (01:24:20):
Uh, you know what, there's so much legal stuff going on.
I don't know what to say on that. I know
they're doing new series. I was supposed to be in
the original TV series, but now everything's changed. So yeah,
they're supposed to be a new series on Peacock.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
Yes, Peacock's coming out, which I think that looks like
a lot of fun. And I'm actually getting ready to
do a movie. I don't know if you know who
Adam Marcus is. Do you know Adam Marcus?

Speaker 6 (01:24:44):
Adam Marcus. Yeah, we do a lot of I do
conventions and I see all.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
The do you see them? Also, Adam Marcus is directing
one of the one of the films that I'm working on. Okay,
it's a weloof movie, though it's not it's not like this,
it's a little bit different. So tell us a little
bit about So you've got it. You looked it really easily.
It has a great has a great class. I met Dick,
I don't know. I've met him a couple of times,

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but he hasn't been on the show. And Den before
he's I've met a couple of times, but he hasn't
been on. So So how was it for you coming
into being in a horror movie that you didn't really
like horror in the first place, and you didn't know
what it was and then it blew up?

Speaker 5 (01:25:21):
And I mean it just blew up.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
Listen.

Speaker 6 (01:25:23):
I was cast as a lead character in a paramount film.
It was my first lead I had done other stuff,
but so it was very exciting. Needless to say, I
didn't attack it as a horror film, you know what
I mean, It's it's, uh, you treat everything at reacting
job the same.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
So uh, that's a good way to look at it too.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
I like that.

Speaker 6 (01:25:45):
I like that, Yeah, you treat it all the same.
And that's how I was able to do it. I
didn't know what it meant to be a final girl.
I didn't know any of it, thank god, because I
think it would have been a little daunting, you know,
I just it's best to go in not knowing anything,
and so I focused on the character. I focused on
what I was trying to bring to the film, but
also the character because not a lot was written in

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the script for me, so I was on.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
My own and that gave me a hot one though,
because you're so gorgeous, probably the hot one.

Speaker 6 (01:26:17):
I'm the oldest final girl. The final girl is always
like a nineteen year old, you know, and I was
playing a shrink. I think I was supposed to be
around twenty six years old. I was a little older
than that. But yeah, I'm considered the oldest final girl
they ever had.

Speaker 3 (01:26:32):
But for anybody who doesn't know what a find, I
know what it is. I don't think he'll even know.
Tell everybody because we.

Speaker 5 (01:26:37):
Have a lot of years old.

Speaker 6 (01:26:40):
The last one standing. The final girl is the is
the character. It's always a female. Is the girl who
kills the famous killer. Okay, in my case, it was
Jason or the figment of Jason. So the final girl
is the last one standing.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
So you guys know, remember when we had Caroline Williams
on She's the final girl in Texicansaw Massacre, you know.
And we've had a lot of finals on whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:27:08):
I just know, yes, you know, yeah, we do a
lot of conventions. But we just did the closing of
Dark Delicacies. If you guys know that store, it's a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:27:19):
I really like her so much.

Speaker 3 (01:27:21):
Yeah, I really like I'm a publicist, so I was
her publicist first.

Speaker 4 (01:27:25):
Can I interrupt the show for one minute?

Speaker 5 (01:27:27):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:27:28):
The reason, folks that I'm itching all over is because
I'm taking Thailand all powerful and I think it has
codeine in it, and I'm very allergic to codeine. So
if you see all of this, it's not that well.

Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
We both just had knee replacements. I didn't slow coke,
so we look good here, but we live.

Speaker 4 (01:27:52):
I've been doing this throughout the show. I think I
was blowing cocaine.

Speaker 5 (01:27:58):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
It's a girl. So I've never I followed Dark Delicacies,
and I see all the things, and I'm friends with
many people who do signings and stuff there. We don't
live in La. We live where do you live? Do
you live in?

Speaker 10 (01:28:12):
La?

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
Yeah? La, Palm Springs. So I I've never been to
Dark Delicacies, and I was very sad that it closed
because I always thought that that's something in my older
age that I would like to open up something like that, Yes,
because I collect action figures and books and all that stuff,
and I think it would be a lot of fun.
And I know everybody to you know, get people to
set up signings and stuff, So I think it would

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be a lot of fun. And I actually host. I
have a website called Dark Frights. It's one of the
top horror publications. And I'm I'm toying with how I'm
going to put together like a Dark Fright's Horror weekend
where I can have everybody coming and sign and do
it like you know, do conventions and stuff with it.
But it's still kind of new, so I'm working on it.
But you you so besides best of the best that

(01:28:54):
you got pucked out, you guys. First of all, I'm
on TV. You saw are on Cheers, Hill Street Blues,
the people next door General Hospital. I love General Hospital
and we've had everybody with all our friends. Yeah great,
Sean Canaan and we had You might not have been
on when you were on, but Sean Cannon used to

(01:29:14):
be on it. Now he's he's big on Bold and
the Beautiful, yea, the Beauty.

Speaker 6 (01:29:17):
It wasn't on when I was on I was working
with uh Tristan Rogers and Eric.

Speaker 3 (01:29:23):
Lived down the street from from Sprinkfield. Yeah, we haven't
had brick Springfield. And we've also had.

Speaker 6 (01:29:33):
Yet they were all on we Also he was on
that show. It's like a high school.

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
A really good looking at like model guy Ian.

Speaker 5 (01:29:42):
I forgot the last name.

Speaker 3 (01:29:44):
He's gorgeous.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
Anyway, he's been on the show. So we've had We've
had all the Sophies. We like the soapies. They're fine.
General Hospital. Did you like that? It's great.

Speaker 6 (01:29:54):
It's my first job in l A. I had just
moved here. I went to an audition and I got
it and we shot on Catalina Island because I was
part of a whole spy ring, so we were on
a yacht to get there. That was all filmed, the
whole thing. Yeah, it was fantastic and it was at
the time. The yacht owner was.

Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
Judge Judy.

Speaker 6 (01:30:16):
Oh wow, she just yeah the yacht.

Speaker 4 (01:30:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:22):
And also so on IMDb, you were on an episode
of Saturday Night Live.

Speaker 6 (01:30:26):
I did that, the most thrilling thing. It was the
late seventies. I was living in New York. I auditioned,
I don't know if you guys remember the Battle of
the Network Stars remember that? Ye? Yes, So it was
a spoof on the Battle of the Network Stars. And
I played Cheryl Ladd and and uh there one played Charro.

(01:30:46):
There was Belue. She played Charlie from Charlie's Angel. So
it was it was great. I got to work with them.
We rehearsed for the whole week. Kilda Radner fabulous. At
the end of the week you do the tech rehearsal,
then you it's live Saturday Night. And the guest musical

(01:31:07):
guests were the Rolling Stones.

Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
Oh wow Stones.

Speaker 6 (01:31:12):
So it was a thrill.

Speaker 3 (01:31:15):
You've actually gotten done some really very cool things. Yeah,
with all of it all, Yeah, do you still sing? Yes,
you do look like a rock star. Actually you could
have been someone who who was a huge rock.

Speaker 6 (01:31:30):
Star during the time that I got blacklisted by Harvey Weinstein.
That's a whole hideous story and there's a big lawsuit,
as you know, it's history, but he blocked me from
working for a good ten years. So during that time
I got creative and said I need to do something,
and I had a band and we played everywhere. In
the name of the band was Bliss I was the

(01:31:51):
lead singer, and I had some people from local LA
bands that had formed Guns n' Roses, so I had
some pretty heavy hitter in the band and we went everywhere.
We even toured in London, so it filled those years
of not being able to work in the business. The
only only studio that hired me was Paramount.

Speaker 4 (01:32:12):
I don't think she looks like a rock star. She's
too beautiful and too perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:32:17):
I know. I mean, that's not beautiful rock stars. Rockstars.

Speaker 4 (01:32:21):
Rock stars are dirty looking, sloppy with crappy hair.

Speaker 6 (01:32:26):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:32:28):
She looked like a movie star, a lady.

Speaker 5 (01:32:30):
Very much, very greedy light.

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
I don't see tattoos all over you.

Speaker 6 (01:32:36):
I don't have one tattoo. I'm not into it. I
think that's I don't want them for me.

Speaker 3 (01:32:43):
I said it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:44):
You're a lady, you look like a lady, you'll behave
like a lady. And that's for my generation. Yes, the
young people today are common, vulgar and ugly for.

Speaker 6 (01:32:58):
The most part, you know, and women want the young
girls today want to be like guys. I don't know.
I'm sure the theory behind that is men get treated better,
so maybe they want to play in that you know.

Speaker 5 (01:33:12):
I don't know what that is.

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
You know, I'm like gay and I don't understand, Like
I don't really like it with gay and lesbians, Like
I don't understand lesbians who want to be with a
woman who looks like a dude.

Speaker 6 (01:33:22):
I don't get it. I don't get any I don't like.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
Like guys who want to go out with guys who
wear dresses. It's just something with you, you know, like
he's super butch.

Speaker 6 (01:33:32):
And like, yeah, I don't I don't get that's what
I like.

Speaker 3 (01:33:35):
But so you did a movie recently. It's a horror comedy,
and I don't know what you did with it, but
almost everybody in this film has been on our show.

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
It was.

Speaker 6 (01:33:45):
It was a documentary. It was what are they called documentary? Yeah,
what do they call it? Mockumentary?

Speaker 5 (01:33:53):
Exumary?

Speaker 3 (01:33:54):
Documentary.

Speaker 6 (01:33:55):
I played myself kind of, and I play a screen
coll who hates horror.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
Oh, and that kind of is you?

Speaker 6 (01:34:06):
I played myself and I talked about Is that a
James Balsamo film? No?

Speaker 4 (01:34:12):
This was.

Speaker 6 (01:34:15):
Oh, let me think who you would know? Michael Epstein
was the writer. Yeah, yeah, Michael Epstein.

Speaker 3 (01:34:21):
So here's the big way, because here listen to who's
in this film. First of all, Lauren Landon is one
of our best friends.

Speaker 6 (01:34:26):
Oh cool, I haven't met her yet. I'm going to
meet her at a convention and I think she's doing
convention I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
Yeah, she's fabulous.

Speaker 4 (01:34:33):
O you all love Lareen is my movie star.

Speaker 5 (01:34:35):
I love Michael.

Speaker 6 (01:34:37):
I'll tell her that I just met you.

Speaker 3 (01:34:39):
Yes, tell her that you.

Speaker 4 (01:34:40):
Met Russell Givesses.

Speaker 3 (01:34:43):
Okay, So Mark Patton is in it. He's been on
our show. Jennifer Rubens in it. She's been on our show.
Adam Marcus has been on our show. Lloyd Kaufman's been
on our show. John Dugan's been on our show. Todd
Farmer's been on our show. Sean Clark I've known for
twenty five years. Bill Johnson has not been on our show,
but I've known him for like twenty years. And then
it's got Helen Udy, Richard Elfman, Aj Cutler, Bill Whedon,

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and Vincent Craig Dupree. I mean a lot of people,
but like more than half the people have been guests
on our show.

Speaker 6 (01:35:13):
For Friday the thirteenth, he's in it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:15):
Yeah, yeah, So I think that's fun. So it's a
comso it's a documentary. So it's a horror documentary.

Speaker 6 (01:35:21):
Comedy, yes, comedy.

Speaker 3 (01:35:23):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:24):
What's the worst script you've ever gotten? The worst, the
really terrible script.

Speaker 6 (01:35:31):
I turned it down. I still get bad scripts, you know.
I still get stuff that comes the worst one. Uh.
I don't think I can say it because they're still right,
they're still out there. I don't want them.

Speaker 3 (01:35:47):
I bet I got you beat.

Speaker 4 (01:35:49):
I got a script. I got a script they wanted
me to star in. And the script is called drag
Queens from out of Space.

Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:36:00):
I was going to be a drag queen and my
planet ran out of men to eat, so we came
to Earth to eat men. And part of the script
was we were eating a human being and somebody said, oh,
give me the balls, Give me the balls.

Speaker 3 (01:36:15):
They taste the best.

Speaker 4 (01:36:16):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (01:36:20):
I got rid of it. I got the script and
I showed it to my friend Marcel Woltz. I said,
you want to make it. He said, you're ready your mind.
I said, it's it's disgusting. Yeah it was, so we
sent it back with them.

Speaker 6 (01:36:35):
There are a lot of bad ones out there, and
more and more, and I just you know, I'd love
to work, but I turned them down.

Speaker 3 (01:36:42):
I got it. I get pitched about fifty of them.
I mean, and I don't know. I don't have time anymore.
I have like six projects that are in development that
all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
You know what.

Speaker 4 (01:36:53):
I love When I read a script and it reads
like this, I asked him, don't do that, oh, written
by a letter that doesn't know the English language.

Speaker 3 (01:37:07):
Actually, I have some films coming up that you if
you actually are, I didn't know if you were still
working a lot or not.

Speaker 6 (01:37:15):
To be shooting in New York City in January twenty
twenty sixth I'm so excited. I just signed the contracts
and it just say yeah, next year.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
That's okay, I mean, because I you know, it takes
a long time.

Speaker 5 (01:37:28):
To get that person.

Speaker 6 (01:37:30):
So a bad person's going thrilled.

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
It's like nice to know it.

Speaker 4 (01:37:34):
Though.

Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
So you also did a movie called thunder Alley. Yes,
And I'm bringing it up primarily because I didn't see it.
But Ron new Lafe Garrett and I know Jill Sholin yes,
and Clancy Brown. I don't know, but I love Clancy
Brown because Starship Troopers is one of my favorite movies.

(01:37:54):
I love it. I see it all the time. I
watch it all the that and best of the best
of two movies that I are on my feel good
list when I'm in a shitty mood.

Speaker 6 (01:38:01):
Oh that's fun. Yeah, interesting. I play a heroin Addict.

Speaker 3 (01:38:07):
Oh, there you go. It was great life.

Speaker 4 (01:38:09):
Garrett had the most beautiful mother. His mother was absolutely
magnificent one.

Speaker 6 (01:38:15):
He adored his mother. He and I became close friends
after that shoot his mother and he he he was
a He's a great guy. And I thought he was beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
Hey was gorgeous as a Yes, his mother was so beautiful.

Speaker 4 (01:38:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:38:31):
I didn't meet her, but he showed me pictures.

Speaker 5 (01:38:33):
Yeah, Oh, I.

Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
Wrote it down. You did do it? James Fossimo film
Too Filled. I did that.

Speaker 5 (01:38:40):
Bo.

Speaker 3 (01:38:40):
I mean his his movies are a little bit, but
they're but he's a good guy and he makes a
lot of films and he has fun. Everybody always has fun,
which is a great thing for him.

Speaker 6 (01:38:52):
It's not really my thing. But he gave me a
great role and so I enjoyed it. It was fun.
It was my role was very last ye, so I
didn't have to do anything at gay.

Speaker 3 (01:39:02):
Yeah. I also like the so so Ron just finished
a movie, uh not too long ago, Climb Motel, Three
Ways to Hell. Run's like all these clown movies, and
so and then Clown Motel Three Ways to Hell. Marco,
the Aussie Capri and Dietrich.

Speaker 5 (01:39:16):
Thrall are all in it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
And and uh so it's kind of like our six
Degrees of Separation. And it runs in the second one,
in the third one. Oh, he's got He's done four
clown movies in like two years, which he doesn't really like,
but they're not terrible. This is this last clime motel
for Three Ways to Hell.

Speaker 4 (01:39:36):
I played General Milan, the head of the Army, and
I'm out the desert in Nevada killing one hundred and
twenty two clowns. By the word, it's the most clowns
in any movie.

Speaker 3 (01:39:51):
You got to see it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:52):
It's a joke.

Speaker 6 (01:39:53):
I'll have to see it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:55):
I mean, one hundred and twenty two clowns.

Speaker 3 (01:40:00):
And dropping.

Speaker 6 (01:40:01):
The reason in particular is because you know, once you've
done it, it's on film till forever. That's right, you're
seeing forever in that.

Speaker 4 (01:40:13):
What I do. I don't mind this film because the
kids are gonna love it, children happy and laugh.

Speaker 3 (01:40:21):
I'm glad. They're very campy. I mean, I don't think
they're supposed to be campy, but they're.

Speaker 4 (01:40:25):
Very I don't do these movies for adults. I do
them for kids.

Speaker 6 (01:40:29):
Sure, I mean campy, wasn't it of all the Friday
the Thirteen?

Speaker 5 (01:40:33):
Very Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:40:35):
Part five of her Friday the Thirteenth movie was very campy,
I think so.

Speaker 6 (01:40:38):
I don't think it was originally meant to be, but
it was. And it's's favorite horror movie. No quent Terrence
Tino's favorite Friday the Thirteenth is Part five.

Speaker 3 (01:40:52):
I think it's a great one. I just watched it
the other day, just just because I knew you were
coming on, so I want to I have never seen
one of them.

Speaker 6 (01:40:59):
I've seen, you know, any others except four and five.

Speaker 5 (01:41:02):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:41:03):
No, I don't even watch the movies i'm in. No,
do you watch the movies you're in? Do you like
to watch it?

Speaker 6 (01:41:11):
It depends?

Speaker 3 (01:41:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:41:13):
Yeah, I like to see if what I tried to
project came through. But I don't continually watch them.

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
You know, Yeah, I don't either. So here's something I
like to ask all the all the actresses that come on,
actress and actors. I guess bucket list male female. If
you could work with any actor and actress, living or dead,
who would you like to have worked with? And then
the second part of the question is if you could

(01:41:42):
have been in any movie that's ever been made, what
movie would you have.

Speaker 5 (01:41:44):
Liked to have been in?

Speaker 6 (01:41:46):
The actor is al Pacino?

Speaker 3 (01:41:49):
There you go, that's a good one.

Speaker 6 (01:41:51):
And I would have liked to have been in Scarface.

Speaker 3 (01:41:56):
Which is al Pacino Scarface?

Speaker 6 (01:41:58):
Well, I think that was what have been a great
role for me. But she was incredible, so I'll leave
it at that. But I think I could have really
done it absolutely, So yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:42:10):
Okay, And what's an actress to Who do you think
would be fun to work with?

Speaker 6 (01:42:13):
An actres would be fun to work with? Oh, well
she's gone now let me see.

Speaker 3 (01:42:19):
God, there's so many I think be dead. She doesn't
have to be living.

Speaker 6 (01:42:24):
Burnett would have been fun. Burnett would have been fun.

Speaker 2 (01:42:30):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:42:31):
Karen Black, I adored, I would have I would have
loved to have worked with her. I think she was
just great.

Speaker 3 (01:42:39):
Yeah. I love Karen. And Ian.

Speaker 6 (01:42:43):
Chris Randon Christopher Sarandon. Oh, he's great, Yes, And I've
met him and he's wonderful. And I would love to
work with him. My favorite of all time, not that
you asked, is Jog Day Afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
Oh, it's a great movie.

Speaker 4 (01:42:56):
Like Karen Black and I went to a dinner party
at a friend's house in Manhattan. And we left the
party and we were crossing Third Avenue and I said
to Karen, wait for the traffic. She was drunk and
proceeded to go across the street, stopping all the traffic.
I thought they were going to kill her with her

(01:43:19):
scoff she was doing like a Torrio door.

Speaker 6 (01:43:23):
I got to meet her. We had the best part,
and I got to meet Louise Lasser, who I thought
was also a very interesting person. I don't know who
that one is, Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman, but I had.

Speaker 3 (01:43:37):
Somebody on our show for Mary Hartman, Mary Hartmon.

Speaker 4 (01:43:40):
Aaron Black paid me the best compliment at the end
of the evening. She said, Ron, you gay guys make
the best date.

Speaker 6 (01:43:49):
It's so true.

Speaker 3 (01:43:53):
We just we had fun.

Speaker 4 (01:43:56):
She had to plead, okay. Now we crossed her every
day and she says, I have to pay. Where are
you going to pay the stowreetdit pee? She said, let's
find a store. I said, maybe a Starbuck so we're
running up and down Third Avenue and she's yelling, I
have to pay. I'm telling you, it was the funniest

(01:44:17):
night in my life.

Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
A girl.

Speaker 4 (01:44:20):
She's a very funny girl. Humor I like.

Speaker 3 (01:44:26):
I liked The Day Afternoon also. And so my favorite actor,
even though he's my favorite actor of all time, is
Lance Hendrickson.

Speaker 5 (01:44:34):
I love Erickson.

Speaker 3 (01:44:35):
I've been to dinner with him. I've been to breakfast
fist uh. I used to be a So the way
I built this show before Ron was involved with it
is I was a celebrity clothing designer. I used to
make one of a kind clothes and I would take
them to the conventions and invite the actors to the
room and then I would give shit away as long
as I could take pictures and we would become friends.
And that's how I got them all on the show,
because I had Lance Henrickson and Malcolm mcdoll on our show.

(01:44:58):
We'd only been in existence for like six weeks and
I had these huge people coming on. Action is one
of my favorites and my prize possession in my collection.
I even have all these I have every action figure
of Lance Hendrickson in my collection. But I have a
tile and it's the Alien He makes these ceramic tiles
of the Alien Monster. He doesn't sell everything, he just

(01:45:18):
makes them. But when after we had hung out at
the convention all weekend, at the end of it, he
wrote on the back of the tile, You're the coolest
motherfucker I ever met, and he signed it and gave
it to me as a gift. And that's like my prize,
you know, possession in my collection. So he's one of
my favorite. But I went to breakfast with Doug Bradley
who is Pinhead, Lance Henrickson, and Malcolm McDowell. You know,

(01:45:40):
we all went to breakfast together, and for me that
was just like a you know, uh, something that you
never forget, like a monumental thing that happened that they
called me and asked me to go to breakfast, and
I went to breakfast with them, and my other one
was Clive Barker.

Speaker 5 (01:45:53):
Barker, you know, Clive Barker.

Speaker 4 (01:45:56):
My most favorite person in the world is Sophia Laurn.
I made a movie with her in nineteen fifty nine.
I played a soldier and she was the most charming, elegant, beautiful, warm,
loving woman and so I fell in love with her.

Speaker 3 (01:46:14):
I was still in love with her.

Speaker 4 (01:46:16):
Yeah, I'm serious.

Speaker 6 (01:46:17):
I remember somebody like her, nobody like her.

Speaker 4 (01:46:21):
And her face was just enchanting.

Speaker 6 (01:46:24):
Yeah, what you said? Everything about her?

Speaker 4 (01:46:27):
I told Jimmy, let's find a script because she's looking
to work at ninety. Let's find a script for her
that I could be in it. I started my career
with her, I could end my career with her. Hunter
also was in that movie. We became lifelong friends. Yeah, no,

(01:46:49):
it's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:46:49):
I mean, I think this business has a lot of
messed up stuff, but there's also a lot of fun
stuff with it. Oh, I love the business. I think
that you have a remarkable reputation. That's one of the
au reasons why I wanted to have you on the show.
I've never heard you have. People sometimes say negative things
about different celebrities. I've never heard, and I know everybody,
I've never heard a single person say anything negative about you.

(01:47:11):
Everybody's like, you're wonderful, you're beautiful, you're charming. So I
think that that really is a big testament to like
you and what you've done and what you're doing.

Speaker 6 (01:47:19):
Oh, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:47:21):
You guys too. You can follow Melanie on Instagram. Her
Instagram is at screen Siren with a five after it,
so screen Siren five. She's also on Facebook if she
has maybe gad you. I don't know. So do you
have anything coming up that we should We have two
minutes left that we should tell you.

Speaker 6 (01:47:38):
I'm doing a bunch of conventions this year because it's
the fortieth anniversary of Part five, So I'm going everywhere.
I'm somewhere every month till the end of the year.
Then in January of twenty twenty six, I'm doing this
feature film which I'm excited about. I can't tell you.
I had to sign an NDA, but as soon as
I released from that, I'm going to talk to you
guys and brag. So in two weeks I'm in Atlantic

(01:48:02):
City appearing with a lot of the people you've mentioned,
and then that's all the rest of the year. I'm
going to Canada and June.

Speaker 3 (01:48:10):
Find your schedule. How do they find out where you're
going to be?

Speaker 6 (01:48:14):
On Facebook? So people know where I am.

Speaker 3 (01:48:16):
Hey you guys, you guys the Facebook and the Instagram guys.

Speaker 6 (01:48:19):
Yeah, I put it on Instagram and also Facebook so
that people will know where I'm going to be. And
then there's a big convention Friday the thirteenth, forty five years.
I think you've heard about it. It's going to be
in Burbank just through tense. Yeah, I'm doing with tom
Yep August Day through tenth, Tommy Brunswick, Gus the.

Speaker 3 (01:48:36):
Problem speaking on our show like five times. I did.
We love her? She's fagulous. Yeah. Yeah. So we want
to thank you for coming on the show. Anytime you
have anything to promote when the book comes out, I.

Speaker 5 (01:48:49):
Definitely wonder you want you to come. Thank you about that.

Speaker 3 (01:48:53):
It's been such a pleasure of meeting you. Thank you
so much for coming on the show. Best of luck
with everything you have coming and anytime you anything to promote.

Speaker 5 (01:49:00):
Just let me know what will happen you.

Speaker 6 (01:49:02):
Thank you so much. It was great to meet you.

Speaker 3 (01:49:05):
Hope to meet you in person. Oh yes, let's do
that all right. Bye bye, Melanie, Thank you everybody. So
we had a great show today, Melanie Kenneman and Steve Basic.
It was a lot of fun. I hope you guys
enjoyed it, and everybody have a great weekend, and we'll
see you next week because there's time for us to go.

Speaker 4 (01:49:25):
Bye bye.

Speaker 6 (01:49:26):
Give me, give me.

Speaker 3 (01:49:36):
Every drinking.

Speaker 2 (01:49:38):
We contective and that's great.

Speaker 3 (01:49:46):
To give me pick up you don't want to know

Speaker 2 (01:49:50):
Always Jim great, youantee give me stuff, Take you

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