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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Are you a songwriter? Are you looking to turn your
songwriting passion into a full time gig gig? Whether you
are just at the start of your songwriting journey or
a seasoned industry professional, this show is made for you. You
will welcome to the Songwriter Show, bringing together songwriting, news,
interviews and communitating. Now welcome your host, Sarantos.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Thank you so much for tuning in tonight, and welcome
back to the Songwriter Show. I'm your humble host, Santos.
I'm a solo music artist who's been writing lyrics for
as long as I can remember. Words are so so
important to me, and that's why I love hosting the
show for you every single Tuesday evening on reality Radio
one oh one. I believe in my heart that every
(00:46):
song is a story. Todight, I'm so happy to have
on the show. Julia Donn. She's a season performer, poet,
and producer, and she shared the stage at the Royal
Albert Hall and starred in a film musical adaptation of
The Pilgrim's She's also the author of a book autobiographical
faith based poetry that documents her journey from trauma to triumph.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
And now welcome this week's special guest.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Guest, Welcome to the show, Julian. How are you tonight?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Hey, I'm good, Thank you, thank you for having me
on the show.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
You're welcome, so thank you for being on the show.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
I'm thrilled good.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I am too. So your backstory is kind of cool.
At some point I want to talk to you about
the poems because I don't get to interview many poets, songwriters, singers,
musicians or anything like that, so that's kind of unique.
But tell us a little bit about what got you
down this path of music.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Well, I've been brought up in a musical home for starters.
My mum is a composer, a piano teacher, a worship leader,
and we always have music in the house growing up.
And I do even remember Christmas is back at my
grandparents' house. You know, there's always a record player on
with bing Crosby and that kind of thing. So I've
(02:02):
loved music and grown up with my whole life. But
for me, I didn't know it was going to be
my career until I joined the Drama Society just in
my final year at UNI and then had to do
this performance. I did the solo performance at like the
very end of my UNI time and thought, yeah, what
(02:24):
I think I can sing? And from there, when I
left university, I tried to get some professional gigs, so
basically that I could get an epty card so that
I could be a TV presenter, which was what I
wanted to do. But everywhere I went for the audition,
they were saying, hey, you're really good, you know you
can definitely and I get the job basically, and I
(02:45):
was thinking.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Oh, that's a terrible prompt to have, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So what I did was my parents were missionaries in Spain.
They were living in the Custadel Salt in southern Spain,
and I decided to go and live out there and
to kind of learned the trade, and which is what
I did. I spent two years in the south coast
of Spain. Basically, you know, back in those days it
was cassette taped, but you know, learning a hundred songs
(03:11):
three hours a night in front of you know, drunk
holiday type audiences. But I learned the craft in those
two years. At twenty one, I had to learn not
like they're not just one hundred songs, but how to
deal with you know, hecklers, crazy atmospheres, you know, different
venues from military gigs to hotels, casinos, bars, welcome parties.
(03:35):
So at the end of that two years, I moved
back to the UK and I was ready to go.
I was like, Okay, I can do this now, and
that was the start of my music career.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Awesome, tell us a little bit about what you have
going on this year for the fans, anything side and
that they should know about.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Oh my gosh, so exciting.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
So even though I spent my whole adults career in
professional music, and I've had so studio albums before that,
mostly you know, Christian gospel, and as you mentioned in
the introduction, you know, done a film musical of Pilgrim's
Progress and other projects. They've taken me to the alcohol
blah blah, lots and lots of things supporting name Dex.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
In my career.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
This last two years has been a different chapter and
it's been phenomenal. I got scouted online and asked to
invited to go to Nashville and we got to go
to a conference that is the conference arm of the
Extreme Tour based out of Nashville, and we performed there
and we got critiqued by industry people. We had an
(04:40):
amazing reaction. And on the back of that, I met
the producer of the Castle Recording Studio just outside Nashville.
He came to the welcome party and you know, just
he was like, you know, what's going on with you?
What happened at the And I said, Ah, the set
we just did was unbelievable that the whole room just
(05:02):
stood still, which it did because I took my eighty
year old mom to performing and we're in the split
and saw just cafe hotspot for like new talent, and
they don't think they've ever seen anything like this pair
from England with an eighty year old mom and a
big voice. You know, it was like it was a
surreal moment. But the room stopped and everybody got the
(05:23):
phones out and started recording. And that's what I said
to him. I said, no, it was amazing, and he went, okay, well,
I think we shoch exchange numbers. I think we should
send me some stuff. And that was the start of
the dream. This year, we ended up going to Nashville
for five weeks and recorded an album there at the
Cast Recording Studio, start to finish, thirteen songs, live band,
(05:48):
amazing musicians, and a great time of seeing these songs
that we just honed around the piano being brought to
life Nashville style.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
It was just a mate And now.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
The album's ready to go, and the first thing.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's great. Okay, tell us a little bit about your
favorite tune of all time, something that really gets to
you when you hear it.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Oh wow, Okay.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Well, I'm a lover of Eva Cassidy, and I can
listen to her album all the time, but I guess
things like Rainbow that she you know, her version of
Rainbow Autumn Leaves. I know you're asking me for one,
but I'm just giving you a little smattering because I
(06:35):
can't pick one sure, So I'm giving you Cassidy Karen Carpenter.
She's another one. Love like Solitaire, and we've only just begun.
You know, beautiful songs, just song beautifully but actually today
on the radio. So here's a bit of a curveball
because I didn't even know this was on my list
until just now.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Natural Woman. I love that.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
It's a great sigh.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
It's beautiful, and today it really just hit me and
I thought, I want to sing that song. I want
to learn it and sing it. Yeah, I love that song.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Tell us about your songwriting process. How do you write music, lyrics,
anything that you do?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
So right now in this new chapter of writing with
my mom, we are a team effort. So my skill
is not as a composer, but I'm a poet, so
my skill is in the lyricism but also in the phraseology.
But I also think that because my mom's older and
(07:37):
it's got a classical style. I mean, she's an amazing
classical keyboard player. But when she composes, you know, she
sing beautiful melodies, complicated chords which I couldn't begin to understand.
But the song doesn't always go where I want it
to go. So I guess I steer the melody a bit,
(07:57):
bring I say my phrases and my lyricism from my
poetry writing. And we're a great team effort and that
process just you know, I've been songwriting and singing and
performing with my mom thirty five years, so it's a
kind of flowing thing that just you know, we'll sit
(08:18):
down at the piano and she go, well, what do
you think I've started to write this? And I'd be like, well,
I like that, but we could call it that, but
maybe we could have a lift in the chorus there
or I want the song to go down. It's like
we just have a conversation basically, and but we get there.
We get there pretty quickly normally as well. It's you know,
we know each other, and.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I guess there must be something about the.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
DNA, the generational thing, blending of the gifts. We just
have this very unique partnership, I think, and I feel
very blessed to have that.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Tell us about this song we're going to hear in
a minute, but inspire this one.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
So originally this song was a well recorded about twenty
years ago, I would say, and it was a song
that was on our gospel album, and it was a
song that was really based on the biblical passage Isaiah
sixty A Rise and shine, for your time has come
(09:16):
and it will arise on you, O Jerusalem, and the
Bible passage and the song did that. But because I've
come through so much trauma in my life and because
this is literally like me rising from the ashes, I
decided that this song needed to be autobiographical, and so
(09:38):
I rewrote the lyrics, although we kept the tune and
the melody the same, and obviously it's got a great
Nashville spin on it. So it's kind of got this
bit of country vibe, it's got a bit of energy.
It's got the fiddle which is amazing brilliant session session
player called Andy Lefwich who's played for Ricky Skaggs for years.
(09:59):
It's going to amazing fiddle part. And so, yeah, this
song means a lot to me because it's kind of
like my rising from the ashes, that's what it is.
And so it really speaks to me about you know,
standing in your best boots, being the best version of yourself,
yourself and speaking to people out there yourselves and you know,
(10:21):
not being frightened to speak your truth and to live
in the light. And for me, you know, that's my
Christian faith and the songs about my bringing hope a
message of hope out there.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So awesome. I'll tell you what. Let's take a listen
and then we'll come back and talk a few more minutes.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Okay, yeah, great, thank you, awesome.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Here you go, everybody check this out.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
A Rise and Shine based West, A rise and shins
to the worlds.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
A rise and shine looking side.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
If you decid for.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Your heart needs to know, it's time out.
Speaker 7 (11:14):
The eyes sunshine ever away our eyes sunshine to.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
The world's out there eyes sunshine, and look, it's time
if you dare for your heart is to know said,
it's time.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Now to.
Speaker 8 (11:42):
Rising and shine for your busy horizon shine.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
No matther a fear.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Shine the season his fear.
Speaker 9 (11:54):
There's a new.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Love you fed is we can be a lie. A
lie is a hob shining off into.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Baby, to be dark.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Then to be darker again.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
That d what time do you.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Horizon shine? The time has come, arise and shine, teaching
ever he wants her eyes unshine.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
The tary has done for noticing, sir, that the battle
has men walk.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
You can't be the lie.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
The lie is a.
Speaker 8 (13:13):
Shining al into the word to becoming.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
You can't be to lie. The lie is the hole
on the.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Shining alto the word.
Speaker 9 (13:34):
To be ti.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Never to be tied, never to stock the But.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
What's the coolest thing that's happened to you? As a poet?
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Oh, I've had a few moments.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Actually, I wrote a poem quite a long time ago
after my twin boys had died. That's part of my
Traumatic Journey book. By no means the extent of it,
and it was a poem about Israel because God had
asked me to share his broken heart, and I wrote
a poem about that and it was taken up by
(14:26):
the International Embassy in Jerusalem. And then I got to
do that same poem in London at a conference for
the ambassador, the Israel ambassador, so that was a really
beautiful moment, and got to give him a framed version
(14:48):
of that poem as well, so that was an epic moment.
And then when we were performing at the Royal Albert Hall,
my mom and I solo for a song that she'd written,
which was for a centenary celebration of the Balfa Declaration,
which is you might not know UK history, but it
was a significant moment in our history when we agreed
(15:09):
to give Israel their land back. But they commissioned me
to do a poem for that to go in the
souvenir brochure, and so I wrote something and it ended
up going on that page of the brochure, so that
was pretty cool as well.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
That is cool.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yeah, So I have had some really good moments just
off the coff They're the two best ones I think
that I can remember. But you know, it's always a
thrill for me when people. I meet people from around
the country and they'll be like, Oh, someone got up
and read one of your poems in church the other
day or something, and it's like, so people know me
(15:49):
before you know me for the poems before they know me,
and that's really cool.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Tell us a little bit about where people can buy
your stuff, stream it, read your poems.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
So my current book that I have out is called
Okay Fine, So maybe God exists. That kind of tracks
some of my journey through trauma, but it's actually meant
to be a book that is meant to help people who.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Are lost, a hurtling and broken.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
That book can be bought on Amazon, or you can
find it on my rocket your page, which you can
access from my website which is Juliet Dawn dot co
dot uk.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
That's the book.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
You can also find the film Pilgin's Progress on YouTube,
but if you search up Juliet Dawn Hilgin's Progress Digital
story book and you'll find it. It's an hour and
a half film musical in which I played the part
of Pilgrim and the music were born to be. Currently,
we're not going to release it digitally because we're going
(16:55):
to release it single by single at first sharing the
story and the message behind each of the songs. So
we've just released that first song that you've just heard,
riz and Shine, which is the first song from the album.
But then we're going to launch the album in lou In, Cornwall,
and that's going to be very exciting because people can
(17:16):
buy the album there, but until we release it digitally,
people will only be able to buy it by going
onto the website being at Dawn dot co dot uk
and ordering a physical copy. But until then we are
going to be, like I said, releasing the single separately
and also an EP coming out which will also be
(17:39):
available through the website. But there there's some great the horizon.
Shine has got a great video on YouTube which I
would recommend people going and watching because I think it's
really cool. And also a single called They're the Time
that we released back in June and that's also got
(18:01):
an amazing music video, so definitely worth checking out on
YouTube under Juliet Dawn and Juliet Dahn Music.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
You know, I'm really really proud of those music videos.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I think they're exceptional, so definitely encourage people to go
and see.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
So I have a fun question for you, what's the
weirdest place you've ever written a poem?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Oh, gosh, ah, the weirdest place I've ever written a
per way? And wow, I don't know it's an airplane.
Speaker 9 (18:28):
Weird.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I think I've written poems on airplanes. I think I
sometimes write poems when I'm driving around in the car,
when i don't even have a pen and paper, so I'm.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Just writing them in my head. Is a bit weird.
And I do lyrics like that as well, I.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Think because it's a good play an undistracted thinking time.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
So I come up with some of my best stuff when.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I'm driving around. I can't say that that is something
I ever expected to be doing.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Does that count? Is that an answer to.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Why not everything counts?
Speaker 9 (19:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, all right, last question for you. What's the show
that you're binge watching right now on any streaming platform?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Well, we have a show. Well you practically you do
have this show in the US. I know you do
because I watch it with my son, my youngest son.
We are addicted to The Traders. Okay, yeah, so we've
definitely binge watched that. We've bing binge watched UK Traders,
(19:32):
Binge watched Australia.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Traders, US traders.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
And now in the UK we're just about to be
hit with celebrity traders and so I cannot wait for
that to come out. But it's just about the only
thing that my youngest son will sit with me and
watch and we eke each other, we pull faces, we
do the whole like, yeah, we go through the whole
(20:00):
whole range of emotions.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
I love it. I can't get enough of the traitors.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
All right, awesome, Okay, you know, I want to thank
you so much for being on the show tonight. It
was a blast.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Well, thank you.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I'm absolutely thrilled that you invited me to be on
and got to talk about my music and yeah, just
thank you very very much from over Hearing Blighty.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
You're very welcome and thank you tonight. To all our
listeners out there, we know your time is precious and
we thank you for spending a little bit of it
with the two of us. To all the listeners, we
hope this show has inspired you to explore your own
stories through music. My name is Rontos. It's been a pleasure.
Please join us every single Tuesday evening to hear more
stories from incredible artists from all over the world. Until then,
(20:47):
keep creating and sharing because every single story, specially yours,
deserves to be heard. Have a great night everyone. I
love y'all.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
Yes their You found yourself screaming and out of God.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
You didn't believe.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
Maybe he loved you, but you didn't feel loved.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
So just like at you the guy.
Speaker 8 (21:34):
And let cold Ihre felt your blood the silence cruise,
your heart grew hectic, life less.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
You're frozen, so skeptic.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
You felt like a doorman and everybody, everyone and everything.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
He moved on a long time ago, but he never
could just let you go.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
He never tastes more than he needs, but sometimes he
has to do.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Things he doesn't love.
Speaker 9 (22:30):
He doesn't want to, but he has to do these
things for you.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
The udt friends almost want it does as a choice.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
He doesn't make mistakes. Drink your first.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
God is love is love, mistake, God makes no mistake.
Speaker 7 (23:08):
Take a managery life without him, your hot drums loudic it.
Without him, it's just you and you're so broken. Your
world feels like the snow glove. But he reminds you
(23:32):
the day, the day you print.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
For all the things you have today. He never takes
more than he needs, but sometimes.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
He has to do.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Just fans.
Speaker 9 (23:51):
It doesn't life to, just doesn't want to. But he
has to do these things.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
For you.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
You content knows what it takes.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
A shows he doesn't make mistakes. You can't force you.
But mistake.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Stake, God makes no mistake.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
I've been bed to dry in the end, but his
story isn't finished yet. His voice sacks through the canyons
of the So.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
The architect of fate knows what it takes.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
Lot is a choice. It doesn't make mistakes.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
He can't force you, stay, stay the arc.
Speaker 9 (25:48):
Fate knows what it does. No is a choice.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
It doesn't make mistakes.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
He can't force you.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
Never make some mistake.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
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Speaker 4 (26:26):
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Speaker 1 (26:28):
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Speaker 6 (27:24):
Many many, many, and as all.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Hanging hello, Hello, No
Speaker 6 (28:42):
Hang hanghead
Are you a songwriter? Are you looking to turn your
songwriting passion into a full time gig gig? Whether you
are just at the start of your songwriting journey or
a seasoned industry professional, this show is made for you. You
will welcome to the Songwriter Show, bringing together songwriting, news,
interviews and communitating. Now welcome your host, Sarantos.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Thank you so much for tuning in tonight, and welcome
back to the Songwriter Show. I'm your humble host, Santos.
I'm a solo music artist who's been writing lyrics for
as long as I can remember. Words are so so
important to me, and that's why I love hosting the
show for you every single Tuesday evening on reality Radio
one oh one. I believe in my heart that every
(00:46):
song is a story. Todight, I'm so happy to have
on the show. Julia Donn. She's a season performer, poet,
and producer, and she shared the stage at the Royal
Albert Hall and starred in a film musical adaptation of
The Pilgrim's She's also the author of a book autobiographical
faith based poetry that documents her journey from trauma to triumph.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
And now welcome this week's special guest.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Guest, Welcome to the show, Julian. How are you tonight?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Hey, I'm good, Thank you, thank you for having me
on the show.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
You're welcome, so thank you for being on the show.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
I'm thrilled good.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I am too. So your backstory is kind of cool.
At some point I want to talk to you about
the poems because I don't get to interview many poets, songwriters, singers,
musicians or anything like that, so that's kind of unique.
But tell us a little bit about what got you
down this path of music.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Well, I've been brought up in a musical home for starters.
My mum is a composer, a piano teacher, a worship leader,
and we always have music in the house growing up.
And I do even remember Christmas is back at my
grandparents' house. You know, there's always a record player on
with bing Crosby and that kind of thing. So I've
(02:02):
loved music and grown up with my whole life. But
for me, I didn't know it was going to be
my career until I joined the Drama Society just in
my final year at UNI and then had to do
this performance. I did the solo performance at like the
very end of my UNI time and thought, yeah, what
(02:24):
I think I can sing? And from there, when I
left university, I tried to get some professional gigs, so
basically that I could get an epty card so that
I could be a TV presenter, which was what I
wanted to do. But everywhere I went for the audition,
they were saying, hey, you're really good, you know you
can definitely and I get the job basically, and I
(02:45):
was thinking.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Oh, that's a terrible prompt to have, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So what I did was my parents were missionaries in Spain.
They were living in the Custadel Salt in southern Spain,
and I decided to go and live out there and
to kind of learned the trade, and which is what
I did. I spent two years in the south coast
of Spain. Basically, you know, back in those days it
was cassette taped, but you know, learning a hundred songs
(03:11):
three hours a night in front of you know, drunk
holiday type audiences. But I learned the craft in those
two years. At twenty one, I had to learn not
like they're not just one hundred songs, but how to
deal with you know, hecklers, crazy atmospheres, you know, different
venues from military gigs to hotels, casinos, bars, welcome parties.
(03:35):
So at the end of that two years, I moved
back to the UK and I was ready to go.
I was like, Okay, I can do this now, and
that was the start of my music career.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Awesome, tell us a little bit about what you have
going on this year for the fans, anything side and
that they should know about.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Oh my gosh, so exciting.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
So even though I spent my whole adults career in
professional music, and I've had so studio albums before that,
mostly you know, Christian gospel, and as you mentioned in
the introduction, you know, done a film musical of Pilgrim's
Progress and other projects. They've taken me to the alcohol
blah blah, lots and lots of things supporting name Dex.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
In my career.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
This last two years has been a different chapter and
it's been phenomenal. I got scouted online and asked to
invited to go to Nashville and we got to go
to a conference that is the conference arm of the
Extreme Tour based out of Nashville, and we performed there
and we got critiqued by industry people. We had an
(04:40):
amazing reaction. And on the back of that, I met
the producer of the Castle Recording Studio just outside Nashville.
He came to the welcome party and you know, just
he was like, you know, what's going on with you?
What happened at the And I said, Ah, the set
we just did was unbelievable that the whole room just
(05:02):
stood still, which it did because I took my eighty
year old mom to performing and we're in the split
and saw just cafe hotspot for like new talent, and
they don't think they've ever seen anything like this pair
from England with an eighty year old mom and a
big voice. You know, it was like it was a
surreal moment. But the room stopped and everybody got the
(05:23):
phones out and started recording. And that's what I said
to him. I said, no, it was amazing, and he went, okay, well,
I think we shoch exchange numbers. I think we should
send me some stuff. And that was the start of
the dream. This year, we ended up going to Nashville
for five weeks and recorded an album there at the
Cast Recording Studio, start to finish, thirteen songs, live band,
(05:48):
amazing musicians, and a great time of seeing these songs
that we just honed around the piano being brought to
life Nashville style.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
It was just a mate And now.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
The album's ready to go, and the first thing.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's great. Okay, tell us a little bit about your
favorite tune of all time, something that really gets to
you when you hear it.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Oh wow, Okay.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Well, I'm a lover of Eva Cassidy, and I can
listen to her album all the time, but I guess
things like Rainbow that she you know, her version of
Rainbow Autumn Leaves. I know you're asking me for one,
but I'm just giving you a little smattering because I
(06:35):
can't pick one sure, So I'm giving you Cassidy Karen Carpenter.
She's another one. Love like Solitaire, and we've only just begun.
You know, beautiful songs, just song beautifully but actually today
on the radio. So here's a bit of a curveball
because I didn't even know this was on my list
until just now.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Natural Woman. I love that.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
It's a great sigh.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
It's beautiful, and today it really just hit me and
I thought, I want to sing that song. I want
to learn it and sing it. Yeah, I love that song.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Tell us about your songwriting process. How do you write music, lyrics,
anything that you do?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
So right now in this new chapter of writing with
my mom, we are a team effort. So my skill
is not as a composer, but I'm a poet, so
my skill is in the lyricism but also in the phraseology.
But I also think that because my mom's older and
(07:37):
it's got a classical style. I mean, she's an amazing
classical keyboard player. But when she composes, you know, she
sing beautiful melodies, complicated chords which I couldn't begin to understand.
But the song doesn't always go where I want it
to go. So I guess I steer the melody a bit,
(07:57):
bring I say my phrases and my lyricism from my
poetry writing. And we're a great team effort and that
process just you know, I've been songwriting and singing and
performing with my mom thirty five years, so it's a
kind of flowing thing that just you know, we'll sit
(08:18):
down at the piano and she go, well, what do
you think I've started to write this? And I'd be like, well,
I like that, but we could call it that, but
maybe we could have a lift in the chorus there
or I want the song to go down. It's like
we just have a conversation basically, and but we get there.
We get there pretty quickly normally as well. It's you know,
we know each other, and.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I guess there must be something about the.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
DNA, the generational thing, blending of the gifts. We just
have this very unique partnership, I think, and I feel
very blessed to have that.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Tell us about this song we're going to hear in
a minute, but inspire this one.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
So originally this song was a well recorded about twenty
years ago, I would say, and it was a song
that was on our gospel album, and it was a
song that was really based on the biblical passage Isaiah
sixty A Rise and shine, for your time has come
(09:16):
and it will arise on you, O Jerusalem, and the
Bible passage and the song did that. But because I've
come through so much trauma in my life and because
this is literally like me rising from the ashes, I
decided that this song needed to be autobiographical, and so
(09:38):
I rewrote the lyrics, although we kept the tune and
the melody the same, and obviously it's got a great
Nashville spin on it. So it's kind of got this
bit of country vibe, it's got a bit of energy.
It's got the fiddle which is amazing brilliant session session
player called Andy Lefwich who's played for Ricky Skaggs for years.
(09:59):
It's going to amazing fiddle part. And so, yeah, this
song means a lot to me because it's kind of
like my rising from the ashes, that's what it is.
And so it really speaks to me about you know,
standing in your best boots, being the best version of yourself,
yourself and speaking to people out there yourselves and you know,
(10:21):
not being frightened to speak your truth and to live
in the light. And for me, you know, that's my
Christian faith and the songs about my bringing hope a
message of hope out there.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So awesome. I'll tell you what. Let's take a listen
and then we'll come back and talk a few more minutes.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Okay, yeah, great, thank you, awesome.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Here you go, everybody check this out.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
A Rise and Shine based West, A rise and shins
to the worlds.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
A rise and shine looking side.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
If you decid for.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Your heart needs to know, it's time out.
Speaker 7 (11:14):
The eyes sunshine ever away our eyes sunshine to.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
The world's out there eyes sunshine, and look, it's time
if you dare for your heart is to know said,
it's time.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Now to.
Speaker 8 (11:42):
Rising and shine for your busy horizon shine.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
No matther a fear.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Shine the season his fear.
Speaker 9 (11:54):
There's a new.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Love you fed is we can be a lie. A
lie is a hob shining off into.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Baby, to be dark.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Then to be darker again.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
That d what time do you.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Horizon shine? The time has come, arise and shine, teaching
ever he wants her eyes unshine.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
The tary has done for noticing, sir, that the battle
has men walk.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
You can't be the lie.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
The lie is a.
Speaker 8 (13:13):
Shining al into the word to becoming.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
You can't be to lie. The lie is the hole
on the.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Shining alto the word.
Speaker 9 (13:34):
To be ti.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Never to be tied, never to stock the But.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
What's the coolest thing that's happened to you? As a poet?
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Oh, I've had a few moments.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Actually, I wrote a poem quite a long time ago
after my twin boys had died. That's part of my
Traumatic Journey book. By no means the extent of it,
and it was a poem about Israel because God had
asked me to share his broken heart, and I wrote
a poem about that and it was taken up by
(14:26):
the International Embassy in Jerusalem. And then I got to
do that same poem in London at a conference for
the ambassador, the Israel ambassador, so that was a really
beautiful moment, and got to give him a framed version
(14:48):
of that poem as well, so that was an epic moment.
And then when we were performing at the Royal Albert Hall,
my mom and I solo for a song that she'd written,
which was for a centenary celebration of the Balfa Declaration,
which is you might not know UK history, but it
was a significant moment in our history when we agreed
(15:09):
to give Israel their land back. But they commissioned me
to do a poem for that to go in the
souvenir brochure, and so I wrote something and it ended
up going on that page of the brochure, so that
was pretty cool as well.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
That is cool.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yeah, So I have had some really good moments just
off the coff They're the two best ones I think
that I can remember. But you know, it's always a
thrill for me when people. I meet people from around
the country and they'll be like, Oh, someone got up
and read one of your poems in church the other
day or something, and it's like, so people know me
(15:49):
before you know me for the poems before they know me,
and that's really cool.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Tell us a little bit about where people can buy
your stuff, stream it, read your poems.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
So my current book that I have out is called
Okay Fine, So maybe God exists. That kind of tracks
some of my journey through trauma, but it's actually meant
to be a book that is meant to help people who.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Are lost, a hurtling and broken.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
That book can be bought on Amazon, or you can
find it on my rocket your page, which you can
access from my website which is Juliet Dawn dot co
dot uk.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
That's the book.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
You can also find the film Pilgin's Progress on YouTube,
but if you search up Juliet Dawn Hilgin's Progress Digital
story book and you'll find it. It's an hour and
a half film musical in which I played the part
of Pilgrim and the music were born to be. Currently,
we're not going to release it digitally because we're going
(16:55):
to release it single by single at first sharing the
story and the message behind each of the songs. So
we've just released that first song that you've just heard,
riz and Shine, which is the first song from the album.
But then we're going to launch the album in lou In, Cornwall,
and that's going to be very exciting because people can
(17:16):
buy the album there, but until we release it digitally,
people will only be able to buy it by going
onto the website being at Dawn dot co dot uk
and ordering a physical copy. But until then we are
going to be, like I said, releasing the single separately
and also an EP coming out which will also be
(17:39):
available through the website. But there there's some great the horizon.
Shine has got a great video on YouTube which I
would recommend people going and watching because I think it's
really cool. And also a single called They're the Time
that we released back in June and that's also got
(18:01):
an amazing music video, so definitely worth checking out on
YouTube under Juliet Dawn and Juliet Dahn Music.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
You know, I'm really really proud of those music videos.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I think they're exceptional, so definitely encourage people to go
and see.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
So I have a fun question for you, what's the
weirdest place you've ever written a poem?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Oh, gosh, ah, the weirdest place I've ever written a
per way? And wow, I don't know it's an airplane.
Speaker 9 (18:28):
Weird.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I think I've written poems on airplanes. I think I
sometimes write poems when I'm driving around in the car,
when i don't even have a pen and paper, so I'm.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Just writing them in my head. Is a bit weird.
And I do lyrics like that as well, I.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Think because it's a good play an undistracted thinking time.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
So I come up with some of my best stuff when.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I'm driving around. I can't say that that is something
I ever expected to be doing.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Does that count? Is that an answer to.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Why not everything counts?
Speaker 9 (19:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, all right, last question for you. What's the show
that you're binge watching right now on any streaming platform?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Well, we have a show. Well you practically you do
have this show in the US. I know you do
because I watch it with my son, my youngest son.
We are addicted to The Traders. Okay, yeah, so we've
definitely binge watched that. We've bing binge watched UK Traders,
(19:32):
Binge watched Australia.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Traders, US traders.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
And now in the UK we're just about to be
hit with celebrity traders and so I cannot wait for
that to come out. But it's just about the only
thing that my youngest son will sit with me and
watch and we eke each other, we pull faces, we
do the whole like, yeah, we go through the whole
(20:00):
whole range of emotions.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
I love it. I can't get enough of the traitors.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
All right, awesome, Okay, you know, I want to thank
you so much for being on the show tonight. It
was a blast.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Well, thank you.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I'm absolutely thrilled that you invited me to be on
and got to talk about my music and yeah, just
thank you very very much from over Hearing Blighty.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
You're very welcome and thank you tonight. To all our
listeners out there, we know your time is precious and
we thank you for spending a little bit of it
with the two of us. To all the listeners, we
hope this show has inspired you to explore your own
stories through music. My name is Rontos. It's been a pleasure.
Please join us every single Tuesday evening to hear more
stories from incredible artists from all over the world. Until then,
(20:47):
keep creating and sharing because every single story, specially yours,
deserves to be heard. Have a great night everyone. I
love y'all.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
Yes their You found yourself screaming and out of God.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
You didn't believe.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
Maybe he loved you, but you didn't feel loved.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
So just like at you the guy.
Speaker 8 (21:34):
And let cold Ihre felt your blood the silence cruise,
your heart grew hectic, life less.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
You're frozen, so skeptic.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
You felt like a doorman and everybody, everyone and everything.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
He moved on a long time ago, but he never
could just let you go.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
He never tastes more than he needs, but sometimes he
has to do.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Things he doesn't love.
Speaker 9 (22:30):
He doesn't want to, but he has to do these
things for you.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
The udt friends almost want it does as a choice.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
He doesn't make mistakes. Drink your first.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
God is love is love, mistake, God makes no mistake.
Speaker 7 (23:08):
Take a managery life without him, your hot drums loudic it.
Without him, it's just you and you're so broken. Your
world feels like the snow glove. But he reminds you
(23:32):
the day, the day you print.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
For all the things you have today. He never takes
more than he needs, but sometimes.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
He has to do.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Just fans.
Speaker 9 (23:51):
It doesn't life to, just doesn't want to. But he
has to do these things.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
For you.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
You content knows what it takes.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
A shows he doesn't make mistakes. You can't force you.
But mistake.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Stake, God makes no mistake.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
I've been bed to dry in the end, but his
story isn't finished yet. His voice sacks through the canyons
of the So.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
The architect of fate knows what it takes.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
Lot is a choice. It doesn't make mistakes.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
He can't force you, stay, stay the arc.
Speaker 9 (25:48):
Fate knows what it does. No is a choice.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
It doesn't make mistakes.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
He can't force you.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
Never make some mistake.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Say thank you for listening to The Songwriter Show. To
keep the momentum going, head over to www Dot songwriter
show dot com and joined our free music community of artists, songwriters,
and producers.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
That's www.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Dot songwriter show dot com.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
Many many, many, and as all.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Hanging hello, Hello, No
Speaker 6 (28:42):
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