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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Are you a songwriter? Are you looking to turn your
songwriting passion into a full time gig gig? Whether you
are just at the start of your songwriting journey or
a seasoned industry professional, this show is made for you.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
You.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We will welcome to the Songwriter Show, bringing together songwriting, news, interviews,
and communitating. Now welcome your host, Srontos.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Thank you so much for tuning in, and welcome back
again to the Songwriter Show on Reality Radio one oh one.
I'm your humble host Santos, a solo music artist, has
been writing lyrics since I was a little kid. Words
just mean the world to me, and that's why I
love hosting this show for you every single Tuesday evening.
I believe very strongly in my heart that every song
is an important story. Tonight, I'm so happy to have
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on the show Danny Giovanna. She's a singer songwriter whose
music lives at the crossroads of a blues rock Indian
Americana sound. Blending grid of the Jersey Coast with the
soul of the South, Danny creates a unique sound of urgency,
comfort and captivation.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And now welcome this week's special guest.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Guest.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Welcome to show, Danny, how are.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
You hi, How you doing? Thank you for having me.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
You're welcome. Thank you so much for being on the
show tonight.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
It's a pleasure to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
So it's a pleasure to have you. Tell us a
little bit about your backstory. Where did you start playing
and why?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (01:25):
So, I've been singing and into music since I was young,
you know, choir and the talent shows at school. And
then I was about fifteen when I said, you know what,
I really want to start pursuing this. So I started
with lessons and forming bands with other kids in high school,
and then it carried me over the years. And then
there was a little period of time where where I
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kind of put this aside and almost forgot about it
because of what was going on. And then I picked
it back up only about a year ago. And it's
really awesome that only a year later I'm able to
sit here with you.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
It's really amazing, great story.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Do you play any instruments, Yes.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
So I do play guitar, something that when I was younger,
I wish I took more seriously, but I just wanted
to sing.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I just wanted to sing. That was it.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
And so again last November, I got myself a little
youth guitar off a Facebook marketplace, and about a week
and a half ago I traded that in for, you know,
a better guitar to take out with me. And I'm
learning it and I'm out there doing it something I
dreamed of, you know, when I was younger. So I'm
really putting in the work for all of this, because
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my younger self definitely wanted me to.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
All right, do you have any famous musicians you admire?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Oh gosh, there's so many. Growing up, my parents had
the best music.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Playing, so storytellers like Jimmy Buffett, Gordon Lightfoot. They were
always always around Rum Springsteen of course, being from Jersey,
so those songwriters always lived like in the back of
my mind. As I got older, I started to get
into some more of.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
The hard rock. I love Joan Jet, I love Steven.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Tyler, and then now where I am today, there's definitely
a couple artists that I really look up to in
One of them is a country artist, Morgan Wade, her storytelling,
her lyrics, everything about it. So, you know, you kind
of change as you get older, but everything always sits
still in like your heart and your mind that you remember,
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Oh I wanted to be like that person. Oh I
liked that person. So it's really cool.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, that is cool.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Are you influenced by old A, trax, CDs, vinyl?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
What are you influenced by all of it?
Speaker 5 (03:33):
I think there's something special about every I want to say,
like wave and decade of.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Music and how that.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Was being put out into the world, and just the
different sounds. You know, everything sounded a little bit differently
like when you compare it.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So I've always been.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Captivated by that because I really just felt like it
matched to the energy of the time that it was
that it came out in. And I'm an old soul
so so I definitely look back at some of those
different eras of music and it inspires me just in
my sound and what I do and what I write.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
How do you balance music with any other obligations you
might have in your life.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, that's definitely hard.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
I work, I work full time and I'm married, you know,
so so family things and being married. It's definitely hard.
But you find the time when it's something that means
so much to you, you.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Make it work.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
So whether I'm up two hours before I'm supposed to
be up because I'm in my backroom writing or going
over something or watching a video or you know, practicing
my chords. And then even afterwards, like right now, I
could be sitting on.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
The couch watching TV, but that's not what I want
to do. I want to be doing this.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I want to be emailing people and getting myself out there.
So even sometimes eleven eleven thirty, when I should be
sleeping because I have to get up in the morning,
I find myself, you know, in my back room working
on these things because that's where that really is where
my heart is. So it's just you make the time,
no matter how tired you are, it's you remember I'm
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doing this because I'm trying to get to that, and
that definitely helps your mindset.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Absolutely, I get lost, you know, I will be sitting here,
whether I'm writing a song or a screenwriter and any
of this stuff that I do, I can get lost
for hours, and like you.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Said, you look up, You're like, oh crap, it's one o'clock.
I get to get up early. Yeah, so I think
it's a good problem to have.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Yeah, but yeah, it could be a challenge.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
But you're right, you get lost in it, and all
of a sudden you're like, oh my gosh, I need
to make dinner.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I have people don't have to feed. Yeah, but it's
all right. Like you said, it's a good problem to have.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
It just means that you're so inspired and that your
creativity is flowing, and that's a great thing.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
What do you like the most about writing lyrics?
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Man, I it's so crazy. As emotional as I am, I.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Have a very hard time face to face with somebody
being emotional.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Right.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
I am very vulnerable and sensitive, but I don't like
people to see that, right.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I like to be tough.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
I like to put on this exterior, and so writing
lyrics and pouring all of that out it's therapeutic. But
it's also a way to say what you have to
say to people, no matter what it is that you're
not able to do in some in some way shapes
and forms. So just being able to get out what
is in there in your heart and your head and
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on that paper.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
And then out into the air.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Right when when you're finally performing it, it's just like wow, Yeah,
that was what was inside of me and it's out there.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
So it's very therapeutic, and I like that part of it.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Tell us a little more about your songwriting process. How
do you get started?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, I mean it could be so random.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
I think very often when I'm washing the dishes, I'm
in a very zen state of mind, you know, with
the water, and all of a sudden, something will just
pop in my head like a line, and immediately, no, up,
I got to stop what I'm doing. I got to
go in the back and I got to write that down,
and I got to see if something else comes out
with it. So it's just for me, it's very hard
to just sit be like all right right now from
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six to six thirty, we're going to write a song.
That's not how I operate. So it's usually somewhere throughout
the day. Maybe I'm driving and I pass a street
sign and.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I'm like, ooh, I like that.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
I like that the sound of that, and then all
of a sudden, this whole story comes out, or I'm
able to connect it with something.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
So it's very random. It's at all different parts of
the day.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Sometimes it's at night you wake up and you're like,
WHOA did I just did?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I just dream that up?
Speaker 5 (07:36):
And then you got to write it down, and that's
The good thing about the phone is that it's right
there and you're able to jot it down and then
you go back to it later.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, that's kind of cool. Okay, tell us about this
song that we're going to hear right now. What inspired
this one?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
So Hurricane and a Shockless is.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Well, my grandfather always called me Hurricane Daniell because I
just came in like a storm from the day I
was born, like real alive and kick in and it
hasn't stopped since.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
But what really inspired the.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Idea of the song was my wife Alexandra, who always says,
you know, she's the calm to my storm. And it's
about loving someone who's like that, which could be hard.
You know, someone who really is like this storm coming
in and there's so much to them. It could be
difficult and challenging to get through to that person and
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kind of.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Find their center.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
So my wife was able to do that in such
a graceful way, and I give for all the credit.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I don't know if I would have ever been able
to do that. So that song is.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
For people who feel they're on one side or the
other and that it's okay and it's okay to be
a storm and to own that and to know that
people do love you for that, and never to try
to change that part of you. So there's like a
couple different things going on in this song and different perspects,
which I think is pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah, that is cool. Okay, tell you what. Let's take
a listen to your song. We'll come back and talk tomorre. Okay,
that's good. Al Right, everybody check this out here you go.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
Hurricane and a chocklens. Won't you come in net with me?
Something tells me you'll me somebody let you stay wild
and free. Hurricane and a chaklens. Won't you come down
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to me? Something tells me you'll need somebody who let
you stay wild and free.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Just a little touch to safety and help you keep
you well.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
Come Hurricane and shout pleas.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Tell me what do you say?
Speaker 7 (10:12):
Nine never loves somebody?
Speaker 6 (10:15):
Ese Solister, It is time not s higher than mountain.
You've fi not line in desuper dimeus cop shrenches on.
Speaker 8 (10:34):
The fall lines.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
None never loves somebody, Solster the time, Hurricane in a
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shackless you don scars? You will let me see from
a vid race past and hope you don't They don't scan.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I see the age.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
You're hearting lest jadid in so its hurricane in a shacklass.
You don't scared. No love somebody news so they stood
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its time, but so higher than the mountain.
Speaker 8 (11:46):
You fill in the dead superdnos.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
Cot stretches off the fall. Now love somebody, so they
stood their time. Then she'll come back from carrying me
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to her in my eyes all waters cut say you're
searching cuntyr can her bricring and shop lit culture common
dance with me. Something tells me or me somebody who
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will let you stay wild and free.
Speaker 8 (12:47):
Die never loves somebody.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
So the stir the time not so tirer than the
mountain you think.
Speaker 9 (13:08):
Shouting.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
She's on.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
So mister, so mister, so, thank you so much for
sharing that song with us. That was pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Oh thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Do you feel like men and women do they get
the same opportunities nowadays? Are we over that or is
it still kind of a little not equal?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Hmm, that's a good question.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
I feel like I have been very fortunate and lucky
in most ways that I get a lot of the
same opportunities I feel. But what I do think that
I have come across is being looked at a little
bit differently. And by that, I mean, you know, a
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lot of the times when I was growing up and
in bands with guys, they wanted me to look a
certain way and act a certain way that wasn't really me.
And you know, now as an adult, maybe I.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Don't get that as much. But again, it's it's.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Kind of like they want me to be a certain way,
maybe a little, for lack of a better word, tamer,
maybe a little more demure. Sure, I feel like most
of the opportunities are there, maybe the expectation is a
little different or a little like more boxed in, if
that makes sense, you get if you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah. People just have these preconceived notions, and
unfortunately we all have that issue where sometimes people try
to pigeonhole you in a certain genre of music or
a certain lifestyle and it's.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Challenging, right, yeah, very very much.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
And I think even though I've only just met you,
I feel like you are so welcoming of whoever's with
you or in front of you, or that you're speaking to.
And if everybody you know could be like that, that
would be really awesome because you know, everybody's so different,
So yeah, it's challenging, but I think that people anywhere
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and everywhere can feel that way sometimes.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Like you said, I think the older I've gotten, people
I think are going to judge and be a certain way,
And all I can do is try to put a
good energy out there and be myself, because there's nothing
worse to me than if you're an artist or with
your friends and you have this persona.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
You're trying to fake it, You're trying to be whatever
it is, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
And I look at different artists from Katy Perry to
all these different personalities and they're kind of pigeonholed in
that style of music or that personality, and I would
hate to be.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
That one hundred percent. I agree, yep.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah. So one of the questions I like to ask
a lot of guests about scams and getting ripped off,
tell us about one you might have fallen for or
one that just so we can protect each other.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Yeah. So, oh, before I was, before I released any
of my music, I spent a lot of time watching
videos about these things and people talking about it and
kind of warning and just saying heads up, this stuff
can kind of go on not to say that.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I was like, one hundred percent, I know what a
scam is, you know, but yeah, you know, the big
the one over here, who knows now. But I felt
like I had somewhat of a good idea. So one
was actually like on TikTok and.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
It was a message request that I had gotten, and
this person was kind of like, wow, I love your
style of your look.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Oh my goodness, maybe we can collabse we can work together.
And we went back and forth.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
A little bit and then you know, all of a sudden,
it kind of turns into this other direction of okay,
well now all of a sudden, like you owe me
money and this is my pricing.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I'm like, wait a minute, that's happening here.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
So I feel like that's an easy one to kind
of get lost in, because you know, you just feel
like you're talking to another artist of some sort and
then all of a sudden it changes and you're like.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Whoa, well that's not what we were doing here, at
least not on that I thought. So I think that's
like a.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Really easy one as opposed to, you know, some of
these bigger ones that you hear about money, like sending
money upfront, and luckily I haven't come.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Across that yet knock on wood, and I really.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Hope that if I ever was to come across, I
kind of have some of that knowledge, that previous knowledge
to spot that red flag.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
So yeah, I hate hearing shit like that, just because
I feel like it's hard enough to make make it yeah,
and we just don't need those kinds of players. I
cannot even tell you how many times I have people
asking me to collaborate, manage me, and my first question is,
you know, tell me what you're interested. And basically the
question is you know something to the effect of do
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I have to pay anything?
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Right, because real.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Managers and real and they they just don't. And I
think a lot of people fall victim to all sorts
of things. Pay a hundred bucks there, fifty bucks there,
you're going to go viral on Spotify, you're going to whatever,
And it's just the story sounds sexy and we all
want it to be true.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Sure, And there's so much of that on social media.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
There's so yeah, yeah, nobody says I want a hundred bucks,
say hey, let's collaborate, or hey I love your stuff,
and then it.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Just yeah, they're sly they know what they're doing, or
it's a.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Chatbot or an AI that they've kind of set up
to kind of spam all of us at the same time.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Very true.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, how do you manage a creative block or if
you know the dreaded word writer's block.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Is that ever happen to you? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Definitely.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
When I have some external stressors like my job or
something like that kind of gets me down.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
In all areas.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
And as opposed to know this being that creative like outlet,
all of a sudden, everything kind of just feels like
it's blocked, like you're saying. So I give myself grace
and I say to myself, this isn't going to last forever.
If you're not able to do something tonight, don't stress
about it. Maybe you know, maybe you need to relax,
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Maybe your brain needs to relax, your mind, your body.
So maybe I needed to go to sleep, right, So
so I put myself to bed or take a walk.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
I love to be by water. I grew up right
on the Jersey shore. Like the water to me again
so therapeutic.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
So even something like that, maybe I gotta go sit
by the water for a little bit and be out
in nature.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
I love nature. It's so calming.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Again as a storm, my internal is so chaotic that
I like my external to be very calm, So a
creative block like that. Definitely be outside and then just
listen to the artists that really inspire me, and just
then try to put myself in the mindset of I
wonder where they were when they were writing this, or
I wonder what they were thinking about, and that definitely
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seems to help that kind of then like jult chill
a little bit, like ooh they could write that, then wait,
I could write this, and it kind of it's almost
like a little game with yourself, almost like a psychological
game right where you're trying.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
To trick yourself. So I find those things to be
very helpful for me.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
What's the most rewarding feedback you've ever received from a
member of the press.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Oh, probably that.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
How Like when I had sang like one of my
original songs and they were like, you wrote that, and
I said, yeah, yeah, I wrote that, and they were like, wow.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
You're very you know, you're descriptive, you're storytelling. They were like,
I feel what you're writing about, like and I feel so.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Connected to you and you know as if I've known
you forever and we had only just met. So that
right there, that's all you could ask for, for someone
to say that to you, for someone to be like
what you wrote, like as if you wrote it for me,
as if I was up there with you for me.
That's all I'm trying to do here is connect with
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people and have someone say, oh, she went through that,
and I'm kind of going through that. I feel like
I'm not by myself. So that was very rewarding because
I just felt like what I sang about they heard
and they felt and really, how could you?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
How could you beat that?
Speaker 4 (21:32):
What was your first job when you were younger?
Speaker 5 (21:34):
My first job, oh man, back in Jersey, you were
I think you were allowed to be fifteen when we
worked at an apple orchard.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
You know, we have all beautiful farmland.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
So I worked at an apple orchard, and I remember
people remembered me for being the girl in the leather jacket.
They couldn't remember. They were like that girl in the
leather jacket. Where's that girl in the leather jackets? So
I liked that that was a distinguishing feature of me
on that job. But yeah, that was that was my
first job.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Are there any apps on your phone that you just
are obsessed with and you can't live without?
Speaker 9 (22:12):
Hm.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
The funny thing is is I did not have TikTok
until I started doing this. You know, people I worked
with they were like, you need TikTok and you need Instagram.
I used to have Instagram and then I deleted it
years ago.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
That I was fine not having social media. Everyone was like, no,
you you definitely need it for this.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
So I think that I have a pretty healthy relationship
with social media because I don't love it that much.
But now that I'm in that game of having to
promote and advertise myself, and I am on TikTok so much,
so much, and you get lost on there and my
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is music and just all of the these people telling
you what to do, and so you know, you gotta,
you gotta, you gotta separate yourself from it for sure,
or I'll just make yourself nuts.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
But I had to pick one. TikTok really has got
my attention.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Right now, tell us about where people can find you
hook up with you online before.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
We let you go here.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (23:18):
So, yep, TikTok and Instagram are my two big social
media right now that is at Danny Geo Music d
I N N Y g I O Music and you know,
messaging me on there, it's it's great. My communities uh
still on the on the fairly small side, so I
am able to connect with people on there a lot easier.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
YouTube again at Danny Geo Music.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Those are those are my really my big ones that
I'm always on and and always my email Dannygeomusic at
gmail dot com is another really easy way.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
To get in touch with me. And yeah, those those
are my my my big avenues right now.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Cool. I want to thank you so much for being
on the show tonight.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Oh, I want to thank you for having me on
the show.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
I mean, it was a pleasure to talking to you
for these last couple of days while we got ready
and just being here tonight. It was really awesome.
Speaker 10 (24:07):
So thank you.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
You're very welcome, and thank you to all of you
tonight for sharing a little bit of your oh so
precious time with the two of us. Thank you for
being a part of the show. If you're an artist
with the story to share, please go to songwriter Show
dot com and flo out the interview request for him. Otherwise,
I hope you'll all join me again every.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Single Tuesday evening as we continue to uncover these awesomely
inspiring journeys behind the music, keep creating and connecting, and
I love you all.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Have a great night.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
Love comes to many phones, many shapes and sizes.
Speaker 9 (24:54):
You would accept my flaws, see me through. You're not perfect, No.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
Even when it's not easy, but say in my nature
to take risks of duke for danger.
Speaker 10 (25:14):
I could never help myself, pretended I was someone else.
Speaker 9 (25:21):
I couldn't see past mild life. As you stood up
to defy hell.
Speaker 11 (25:27):
You're my rinchitar, steady faith, You're my superstar. Never run here,
You're my rancitar, my sweet rag guitar.
Speaker 9 (25:47):
You're my CHUITI my sweet ring guitar.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
It's coming many emodes, many dead ends, and many words
like the cloud.
Speaker 9 (26:13):
You're gentle on me when I cry and trembles. You're
a loving home. I didn't always know why I needed you.
Trapped up my side plan I nevit.
Speaker 10 (26:29):
To bed, could never help myself, pretended I was someone else.
Speaker 9 (26:38):
I couldn't see.
Speaker 8 (26:39):
Past my life.
Speaker 9 (26:41):
As she stood up to devide you my ranchita scar,
You're my super side.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
Never right.
Speaker 9 (26:58):
You are my Lankita, my sweet with.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
You're my time.
Speaker 9 (27:11):
In the body, shot to the facts.
Speaker 12 (27:15):
You don't OpEM be the star, you wait Katis, not
at your way, the best father Martin, You're the best
part of mating.
Speaker 9 (27:30):
You're my rock guitar, staring faithful. You're my sea stuff.
Speaker 8 (27:41):
Ever run me from my red guitar, must rain guitar.
You're my ray guitar, my.
Speaker 9 (27:55):
Sweet range gitchar.
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Speaker 3 (28:20):
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Speaker 1 (28:22):
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Speaker 9 (29:17):
Many many.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Many name
Speaker 6 (29:39):
At no no, hang Hello, hang hang ahead,